Re: Seamonkey installation mystery
Interviewed by CNN on 11/05/2012 00:58, David Lawler told the world: This totally mystifies me. A week ago I installed SM 2.9.1, apparently successfully, replacing (I thought) 1.1.19. I noticed right away my computer ran slower. Finally, on Monday or Tuesday of this week, things were so bad I had to give up and reboot. So, imagine my surprise when, after rebooting, I was again running 1.1.19. I went through the process of again installing 2.9.1, again apparently successfully. Then, again this (Thu) evening, my computer was again tied in knots so bad I had to reboot. Again, SM 1.1.19 was running after the reboot. Does anyone have any idea what is going on? How does 1.1.19 survive the installation of 1.9.1? (I actually used an intermediate step, making the actual conversion from 1.1.19 to 2.X.X in SM 2.0.5, my old profile imported ok, then upgrading to 2.9.1.) Win XP3, up to date, 2.5 gb memory. With 1.1.19 running, I could go weeks without rebooting. Something is odd here. I don't know exactly what's happening, but SM 2.x installs in a different path from 1.x, and instead of *modifying* the profile the migration *copies* the old profile. So you end up with two installs. For some reason, the shortcut is still pointing to the old one. You probably will want to *uninstall* the old SM 1.1 at some point. The problem is, if I remember well, this may remove *all* the Seamonkey shortcuts. A reinstall of 2.9.1 should fix that more easily than manually recreating the shortcuts. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my cyborg implant. * Added by TagZilla 0.7a1 running on Seamonkey 2.9 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey installation mystery
On 5/10/2012 11:58 PM, David Lawler wrote: This totally mystifies me. A week ago I installed SM 2.9.1, apparently successfully, replacing (I thought) 1.1.19. I noticed right away my computer ran slower. Finally, on Monday or Tuesday of this week, things were so bad I had to give up and reboot. So, imagine my surprise when, after rebooting, I was again running 1.1.19. I went through the process of again installing 2.9.1, again apparently successfully. Then, again this (Thu) evening, my computer was again tied in knots so bad I had to reboot. Again, SM 1.1.19 was running after the reboot. Does anyone have any idea what is going on? How does 1.1.19 survive the installation of 1.9.1? (I actually used an intermediate step, making the actual conversion from 1.1.19 to 2.X.X in SM 2.0.5, my old profile imported ok, then upgrading to 2.9.1.) Win XP3, up to date, 2.5 gb memory. With 1.1.19 running, I could go weeks without rebooting. Something is odd here. Dave This is what will happen if you try to install the upgrade with USER and not ADMINISTRATOR privileges (I just made the same mistake on my multi-media computer yesterday). Is that what was going on? Are you sure you had Administrator privileges? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Copy completed pop-up stay visible
On 5/9/2012 8:23 AM, TMitchell wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Ray_Net wrote, On 07/05/2012 22:54: The Copy Completed pop-up windows did not end - We are obliged to click on cancel or obliged to close the window. I suppose that this issue was already filled in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ but i cannot find it with the copy completed string to search. It occur intermittenly, but when the attachement (10 photos per exemple) is near 10 MB, i am pretty sure that i can reproduce at will. Is there someone that can correct this bug ? Could someone point me to the related bugzilla entry ? I get this problem when the message being copied is large or has attachments. I large attachments seem to be some of it, but so does internet bandwith. For example I am streaming from PANDORA and have any attachment it does it almost every time. If I close pandora it works fine. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey installation mystery
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 11/05/2012 00:58, David Lawler told the world: This totally mystifies me. A week ago I installed SM 2.9.1, apparently successfully, replacing (I thought) 1.1.19. I noticed right away my computer ran slower. Finally, on Monday or Tuesday of this week, things were so bad I had to give up and reboot. So, imagine my surprise when, after rebooting, I was again running 1.1.19. I went through the process of again installing 2.9.1, again apparently successfully. Then, again this (Thu) evening, my computer was again tied in knots so bad I had to reboot. Again, SM 1.1.19 was running after the reboot. Does anyone have any idea what is going on? How does 1.1.19 survive the installation of 1.9.1? (I actually used an intermediate step, making the actual conversion from 1.1.19 to 2.X.X in SM 2.0.5, my old profile imported ok, then upgrading to 2.9.1.) Win XP3, up to date, 2.5 gb memory. With 1.1.19 running, I could go weeks without rebooting. Something is odd here. I don't know exactly what's happening, but SM 2.x installs in a different path from 1.x, and instead of *modifying* the profile the migration *copies* the old profile. So you end up with two installs. For some reason, the shortcut is still pointing to the old one. You probably will want to *uninstall* the old SM 1.1 at some point. The problem is, if I remember well, this may remove *all* the Seamonkey shortcuts. A reinstall of 2.9.1 should fix that more easily than manually recreating the shortcuts. It will only uninstall the shortcuts it installed. I manually created shortcuts of my own (browser, mail, and profile manager) years ago, pointing to my profile. They never get deleted. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ Marriage changes passion. Suddenly you're in bed with a relative. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: File Bookmark
Ed Mullen wrote: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: /Bungert/: The top 3 lines are Name, Location, and Keyword. What exactly do these do? How is it useful to have a description or keywords for a bookmark? I use couple of bookmarks with keywords assigned like: Location: http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?String=exactAcronym=%s Keyword: acr then I type acr ROTFLMAO (w/o the quotes) in the browser's location field and I get the result for searching ROTFLMAO on the Acronym Finder site, without first going their web search form. Another one for opening a specific Usenet group on Google Groups: Location: http://groups.google.com/group/%s Keyword: gg Type gg mozilla.support.seamonkey into the browser's location field. For more info you might take a look at Mozilla Custom Keywords http://www.mozilla.org/docs/end-user/keywords.html. My approach is to use bookmarklets that automatically use highlighted text on a page as the passed parameter or, if none is highlighted, present a dialogue box to enter the term. The ones I use most often are on my Personal Toolbar for one-click access. And I don't have to remember whether I used acr or a or acn for the acronym lookup keyword. Plus, after using this setup for a while my brain and mouse hand know instinctively where to go for the most-used bms. we love you all the way... ! -- ~Vink ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: File Bookmark
GerardJan wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: /Bungert/: The top 3 lines are Name, Location, and Keyword. What exactly do these do? How is it useful to have a description or keywords for a bookmark? I use couple of bookmarks with keywords assigned like: Location: http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?String=exactAcronym=%s Keyword: acr then I type acr ROTFLMAO (w/o the quotes) in the browser's location field and I get the result for searching ROTFLMAO on the Acronym Finder site, without first going their web search form. Another one for opening a specific Usenet group on Google Groups: Location: http://groups.google.com/group/%s Keyword: gg Type gg mozilla.support.seamonkey into the browser's location field. For more info you might take a look at Mozilla Custom Keywords http://www.mozilla.org/docs/end-user/keywords.html. My approach is to use bookmarklets that automatically use highlighted text on a page as the passed parameter or, if none is highlighted, present a dialogue box to enter the term. The ones I use most often are on my Personal Toolbar for one-click access. And I don't have to remember whether I used acr or a or acn for the acronym lookup keyword. Plus, after using this setup for a while my brain and mouse hand know instinctively where to go for the most-used bms. we love you all the way... ! http://www-archive.mozilla.org/docs/end-user/keywords.html -- ~Vink ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
After 2.9.x upgrade, slower to empty Junk folder
Greetings, I run the official SM 2.9.1 on Ubuntu 10.04 x64 installed via UbuntuZilla. I have noticed that since the 2.9.x series upgrade, emptying the Junk folder takes a noticeably longer time. Yes I do compact all accounts once a week before I pull a profile backup. Right after a compact, it is still slower than emptying the Junk folder on 2.8 and prior. Any thoughts of other things contained in the 2.9.x series that could be negatively affecting performance? Sincerely, -- Michael Lueck Lueck Data Systems http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Does user agent spoofing should work for extensions ?
Hello, I have been able to access my bank services using Seamonkey by installing the User Agent Switcher extension and configuring that to spoof Firefox 11. Now, the bank is requiring customers to install a proprietary security extension developed for Firefox, but that does not install, saying it is not compatible with Seamonkey 2.9.1. I have also tried to install the checkCompatibility 1.3 extension but it did not help. Any ideas ? Rubens ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does user agent spoofing should work for extensions ?
Rubens wrote: Any ideas ? Have you hacked the module's install.rdf to specify that the module is compatible with XYZ software/version? I must do that with some modules that have not been upgraded in forever yet still work properly. Sincerely, -- Michael Lueck Lueck Data Systems http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: After 2.9.x upgrade, slower to empty Junk folder
Michael Lueck wrote: Greetings, I run the official SM 2.9.1 on Ubuntu 10.04 x64 installed via UbuntuZilla. I have noticed that since the 2.9.x series upgrade, emptying the Junk folder takes a noticeably longer time. Yes I do compact all accounts once a week before I pull a profile backup. Right after a compact, it is still slower than emptying the Junk folder on 2.8 and prior. Any thoughts of other things contained in the 2.9.x series that could be negatively affecting performance? Sincerely, Could it be that Ubunutu not ideal ? ;-) -- ~Vink ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does user agent spoofing should work for extensions ?
Interviewed by CNN on 11/05/2012 18:37, Rubens told the world: I have been able to access my bank services using Seamonkey by installing the User Agent Switcher extension and configuring that to spoof Firefox 11. Now, the bank is requiring customers to install a proprietary security extension developed for Firefox, but that does not install, saying it is not compatible with Seamonkey 2.9.1. I have also tried to install the checkCompatibility 1.3 extension but it did not help. Rubens, I'm guessing you are from Brazil like me? Well... here's the thing: those security add-ons apparently have binary modules, and as such they *have* to be recompiled for every new Mozilla browser version. Hacking the RDF is not enough. For instance, Itaú STILL hasn't released a Firefox 12-compatible version of their plugin, so I wasn't able to update Firefox yet (they tell me the new version should be ready by May 16, by the way... I don't know how is the situation in other banks, but it seems to be about the same, for all banks that use G-Buster security technology) Even if you hack the RDF to list Seamonkey as compatible, you still probably won't be able to install the plugin in Seamonkey 2.9.1 -- because it's the wrong Gecko version. It *might* be possible to fool it into installing on Seamonkey 2.8, or perhaps after the new version of the plugin is (finally) released. Myself, I sorta gave up on using Seamonkey for banking. It's the banks' fault for using heavy-handed, poorly-supported security solutions. What I'm doing now is this: I have a folder with Portable Firefox 11 which I use *only* for banking. That way, its out-of-date status does not impact my regular browsing. Being the Portable version, it doesn't try to steal the default browser setting from Seamonkey (and I can even have a regular, updated, copy of Firefox too, if I wish). It's a bother, but it's still WAY, WAY better than using Internet Explorer for banking -- besides all the reasons not to like IE (and I see you are on XP, so you can't even have the slightly-less-evil IE9), the Internet Explorer version of the G-Buster so-called security solution installs as a rootkit, and causes all sorts of problems. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my IBM PC-XT. * Added by TagZilla 0.7a1 running on Seamonkey 2.9 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [linux] Java 7u4 not working in SM 2.9.1
On 05/08/2012 06:55 PM, NoOp wrote: Today I updated two linux systems from Java (Oracle) 6 update 32 to Java 1.7.0.04 ((build 1.7.0_04-b20)) today. Java 1.7.0.04 is working fine on the same systems with: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:12.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/12.0 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:15.0) Gecko/15.0 Firefox/15.0a1 (Firefox Nightly) Chromium: 18.0.1025.168 (Developer Build 134367 Linux) Ubuntu 11.04 Ephipany Web Browser 2.30.6 Other applications: LibreOffice 3.5.3.2 LibreOffice 3.4.6 Java 7u4 is not working on SeaMonkey Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120429 Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9.1 on either system. If Java is backed down to 6u32 then SeaMonkey (and Prefbar 6.1 - Ping Manuel) pick it up fine. Tested using http://java.com|Do I have Java? SeaMonkey Firefox Java plugin path: Java(TM) Plug-in 1.7.0_04 File: /opt/java/32/jre1.7.0_04/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so Also tested: o Clean 'test' profiles (created new SM profiles and did not use any existing profiles). o Prefbar 6.1 on Firefox - no issues, so I tested with the existing SeaMonkey profiles with Prefbar turned off/on/uninstalled/newly reinstalled. o Windows SM 2.9.1 versions + Java 7_4: WinXP Win7 all work fine. o SeaMonkey 2.9.0 - no change. No Java related files exist in ~/.mozilla. All versions of Firefox, Firefox Nightlies, and SeaMonkey are run from ~/seamonkey (user home directories). pluginreg.dat in SeaMonkey shows: [INVALID] /opt/java/32/jre1.7.0_04/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so:$ 1334223796000:$ Whereas pluginreg.dat in Firefox shows: libnpjp2.so:$ /opt/java/32/jre1.7.0_04/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so:$ :$ 1334223796000:0:5:$ a href=http://java.sun.com;Java/a plug-in for NPAPI-based browsers.:$ Java(TM) Plug-in 1.7.0_04:$ 36 0:application/x-java-vm:Java#153 Plug-in::$ 1:application/x-java-applet:Java#153 Plug-in Applet::$ etc. Note: I've renamed pluginreg.dat in SeaMonkey let SM rebuild the data - result is the same. Anyone else experiencing the same/similar? Added note: mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey is also copied on this msg. I've set the followup-to mozilla.support.seamonkey. Nobody else? Anyone else (linux) have sun java jre1.7.0_04 installed and set as the default java? Again, in Firefox it works fine, in SeaMonkey (even with a clean test profile) it does not. *And* with the default profile prefbar 6.1 installed, prefbar declares No Java Plugin found!. I suspect it may be a path problem as the same prefbar 6.1 works just fine in Firefox (I even copy the 6.1 profile to Firefox to test. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does user agent spoofing should work for extensions ?
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 11/05/2012 18:37, Rubens told the world: I have been able to access my bank services using Seamonkey by installing the User Agent Switcher extension and configuring that to spoof Firefox 11. Now, the bank is requiring customers to install a proprietary security extension developed for Firefox, but that does not install, saying it is not compatible with Seamonkey 2.9.1. I have also tried to install the checkCompatibility 1.3 extension but it did not help. Rubens, I'm guessing you are from Brazil like me? Well... here's the thing: those security add-ons apparently have binary modules, and as such they *have* to be recompiled for every new Mozilla browser version. Hacking the RDF is not enough. For instance, Itaú STILL hasn't released a Firefox 12-compatible version of their plugin, so I wasn't able to update Firefox yet (they tell me the new version should be ready by May 16, by the way... I don't know how is the situation in other banks, but it seems to be about the same, for all banks that use G-Buster security technology) Even if you hack the RDF to list Seamonkey as compatible, you still probably won't be able to install the plugin in Seamonkey 2.9.1 -- because it's the wrong Gecko version. It *might* be possible to fool it into installing on Seamonkey 2.8, or perhaps after the new version of the plugin is (finally) released. Myself, I sorta gave up on using Seamonkey for banking. It's the banks' fault for using heavy-handed, poorly-supported security solutions. What I'm doing now is this: I have a folder with Portable Firefox 11 which I use *only* for banking. That way, its out-of-date status does not impact my regular browsing. Being the Portable version, it doesn't try to steal the default browser setting from Seamonkey (and I can even have a regular, updated, copy of Firefox too, if I wish). It's a bother, but it's still WAY, WAY better than using Internet Explorer for banking -- besides all the reasons not to like IE (and I see you are on XP, so you can't even have the slightly-less-evil IE9), the Internet Explorer version of the G-Buster so-called security solution installs as a rootkit, and causes all sorts of problems. agreed.. sincerely -- ~Vink ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [linux] Java 7u4 not working in SM 2.9.1
NoOp wrote: On 05/08/2012 06:55 PM, NoOp wrote: Today I updated two linux systems from Java (Oracle) 6 update 32 to Java 1.7.0.04 ((build 1.7.0_04-b20)) today. Java 1.7.0.04 is working fine on the same systems with: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:12.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/12.0 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:15.0) Gecko/15.0 Firefox/15.0a1 (Firefox Nightly) Chromium: 18.0.1025.168 (Developer Build 134367 Linux) Ubuntu 11.04 Ephipany Web Browser 2.30.6 Other applications: LibreOffice 3.5.3.2 LibreOffice 3.4.6 Java 7u4 is not working on SeaMonkey Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120429 Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9.1 on either system. If Java is backed down to 6u32 then SeaMonkey (and Prefbar 6.1 - Ping Manuel) pick it up fine. Tested using http://java.com|Do I have Java? SeaMonkey Firefox Java plugin path: Java(TM) Plug-in 1.7.0_04 File: /opt/java/32/jre1.7.0_04/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so Also tested: o Clean 'test' profiles (created new SM profiles and did not use any existing profiles). o Prefbar 6.1 on Firefox - no issues, so I tested with the existing SeaMonkey profiles with Prefbar turned off/on/uninstalled/newly reinstalled. o Windows SM 2.9.1 versions + Java 7_4: WinXP Win7 all work fine. o SeaMonkey 2.9.0 - no change. No Java related files exist in ~/.mozilla. All versions of Firefox, Firefox Nightlies, and SeaMonkey are run from ~/seamonkey (user home directories). pluginreg.dat in SeaMonkey shows: [INVALID] /opt/java/32/jre1.7.0_04/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so:$ 1334223796000:$ Whereas pluginreg.dat in Firefox shows: libnpjp2.so:$ /opt/java/32/jre1.7.0_04/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so:$ :$ 1334223796000:0:5:$ a href=http://java.sun.com;Java/a plug-in for NPAPI-based browsers.:$ Java(TM) Plug-in 1.7.0_04:$ 36 0:application/x-java-vm:Java#153 Plug-in::$ 1:application/x-java-applet:Java#153 Plug-in Applet::$ etc. Note: I've renamed pluginreg.dat in SeaMonkey let SM rebuild the data - result is the same. Anyone else experiencing the same/similar? Added note: mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey is also copied on this msg. I've set the followup-to mozilla.support.seamonkey. Nobody else? Anyone else (linux) have sun java jre1.7.0_04 installed and set as the default java? Again, in Firefox it works fine, in SeaMonkey (even with a clean test profile) it does not. *And* with the default profile prefbar 6.1 installed, prefbar declares No Java Plugin found!. I suspect it may be a path problem as the same prefbar 6.1 works just fine in Firefox (I even copy the 6.1 profile to Firefox to test. I have everthing installed OpenOffice, java, the whole chebang -- ~Vink ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [Suggestions]
errata: * Make 'Scriptish' part of SeaMonkey/FireFox, since them can't run USER JavaScript scripts. Why don't you add the guy that makes it to Mozilla team? Yes user scripts to be installed and ran are only possible with Scriptish. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
