Re: Usenet in SM

[David E. Ross]

On 3/11/13 5:05 PM, Geoff Welsh wrote:
> as someone here recently turned me onto free Usenet from 
> EternalSeptember, I'm following several groups again.
> 
> When a post is cross-posted to two groups, and I follow both, is there a 
> setting I can tweak so that reading the post in one group marks it as 
> read in both groups?
> IDR,
> GW
> 

This is long-standing bug #43278, first submitted over 12 years ago.
See .  Since this
worked quite well with Netscape 4.7, I really do not know why it has not
yet been fixed.

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Usenet in SM

[Geoff Welsh]

as someone here recently turned me onto free Usenet from 
EternalSeptember, I'm following several groups again.


When a post is cross-posted to two groups, and I follow both, is there a 
setting I can tweak so that reading the post in one group marks it as 
read in both groups?

IDR,
GW
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Re: OT Re: Email error message

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Geoff Welsh wrote:

> fluent in HTML 4 since 2002 and I never knew that...thanks BTS!

You're welcome.

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OT Re: Email error message

[Geoff Welsh]

fluent in HTML 4 since 2002 and I never knew that...thanks BTS!
GW

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

.I always add a slash after
the TLD if I'm only linking to a domain name or a directory. See:



If you send a link to a specific page, do not add a slash.

http://example.com/subdir/thispage.html  gets NO slash.



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Re: Email error message

[Philip TAYLOR]

Danny Kile wrote:

> Edit > Preferences > Mail & Newsgroups > Send Format the Radio Button
> about half way down.

Got it.  Thank you.
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Re: Mozilla says no plans to return to iOS

[Sailfish]

My bloviated meandering follows what A Williams graced us with on 
3/11/2013 9:39 AM:

Sailfish wrote:

REF:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-14013_3-57573440/mozilla-says-no-plans-to-return-to-ios/ 




[excerpt quote=\"
Sullivan and Opera Software's Mike Taylor, also on the panel, shared the
same viewpoint. They all argued that giving consumers browser choice was
essential to making browsers, and the Web in general, great.

And, Sullivan argued, Apple's closed environment means users suffer.

It's a viewpoint that the general public might not share. Rosenblatt
queried the audience to find out how many people were iOS users, and a
majority of hands went up. By contrast, when he asked how many of them
were suffering, just a few hands surfaced.
\" /]

The questioned not asked is how many of the iOS users were using
non-Safari and non-Chrome browsers. My guess is that even fewer would
raise their hand which, I suspect, is a big reason Mozilla has decided
not to waste resources just becoming another Apple webkit clone.



Mucrosoft have just been told to pay the best part of a Zillion dollars 
to the EU for violating a previous agreement to offer users a choice of 
browsers.  They implemented it for XP and then forgot (?) for Win7.  I 
never saw the point in it the way it was implemented and just installed 
Seamonkey anyway.


The only thing preventing Apple from running into this problem is that 
people who don't want that closed environment just avoid getting 
anything from that company.  Windows was so ubiquitous, it was almost 
impossible to avoid.  MS were also re-interpreting interoperability 
standards whenever they felt like it, Apple are not big enough to do 
that either (??).


My bad, I posted this in the wrong newsgroup and had since reposted it 
in mozilla.general.


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Re: Email error message

[Larry S.]

Philip TAYLOR wrote:



 wrote:


I have it setup to send in HTML and plain text.


Where can this be specified ?  I see only
"Compose messages in HTML format" (modal
tick box), and no option to specify "BOTH".

Philip Taylor


Preferences->Mail & News Groups->Send Format->Send the message in both

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Re: Email error message

[Danny Kile]

Philip TAYLOR wrote:



 wrote:


I have it setup to send in HTML and plain text.


Where can this be specified ?  I see only
"Compose messages in HTML format" (modal
tick box), and no option to specify "BOTH".

Philip Taylor



Edit > Preferences > Mail & Newsgroups > Send Format the Radio Button 
about half way down.


Danny
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Re: Mozilla says no plans to return to iOS

[PhillipJones]

A Williams wrote:

Sailfish wrote:

REF:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-14013_3-57573440/mozilla-says-no-plans-to-return-to-ios/



[excerpt quote=\"
Sullivan and Opera Software's Mike Taylor, also on the panel, shared the
same viewpoint. They all argued that giving consumers browser choice was
essential to making browsers, and the Web in general, great.

And, Sullivan argued, Apple's closed environment means users suffer.

It's a viewpoint that the general public might not share. Rosenblatt
queried the audience to find out how many people were iOS users, and a
majority of hands went up. By contrast, when he asked how many of them
were suffering, just a few hands surfaced.
\" /]

The questioned not asked is how many of the iOS users were using
non-Safari and non-Chrome browsers. My guess is that even fewer would
raise their hand which, I suspect, is a big reason Mozilla has decided
not to waste resources just becoming another Apple webkit clone.



Mucrosoft have just been told to pay the best part of a Zillion dollars
to the EU for violating a previous agreement to offer users a choice of
browsers. They implemented it for XP and then forgot (?) for Win7. I
never saw the point in it the way it was implemented and just installed
Seamonkey anyway.

The only thing preventing Apple from running into this problem is that
people who don't want that closed environment just avoid getting
anything from that company. Windows was so ubiquitous, it was almost
impossible to avoid. MS were also re-interpreting interoperability
standards whenever they felt like it, Apple are not big enough to do
that either (??).


Apple may not have the computer and OS penetration that MS currently 
does but even with the recent share prices Apple is Large than MS. IN 
fact to keep from getting less valid they are going to this subscription 
service forcing every one to subscribe to Office365.


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Re: Email error message

[Philip TAYLOR]

 wrote:

> I have it setup to send in HTML and plain text.

Where can this be specified ?  I see only
"Compose messages in HTML format" (modal
tick box), and no option to specify "BOTH".

Philip Taylor
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Re: Email error message

[Danny Kile]

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

keith_w wrote:


"If adding a "/" at the end of the link fixes it, I'd do it.  Your
PC-Illiterate friend should still be able to click on it."

If you don't mind, what function does the addition of a forward slash at
the end of a link perform?


Well, it seems to alleviate A Williams's problem with his email client
confusing the link as a "file." Secondly, it removes a step at the web
server - prevents it having to do a redirect. I always add a slash after
the TLD if I'm only linking to a domain name or a directory. See:



If you send a link to a specific page, do not add a slash.

http://example.com/subdir/thispage.html  gets NO slash.



Putting a slash at the end does not fix the problem, in fact some pages 
will have a slash and the end already. The only way to get it to send is 
to remove the link from the attachments list window. I still do not know 
why SM put a link in the attachments list.


Thank you,

Danny
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Re: Email error message

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

keith_w wrote:

> "If adding a "/" at the end of the link fixes it, I'd do it.  Your
> PC-Illiterate friend should still be able to click on it."
> 
> If you don't mind, what function does the addition of a forward slash at
> the end of a link perform?

Well, it seems to alleviate A Williams's problem with his email client 
confusing the link as a "file." Secondly, it removes a step at the web 
server - prevents it having to do a redirect. I always add a slash after 
the TLD if I'm only linking to a domain name or a directory. See:



If you send a link to a specific page, do not add a slash.

   http://example.com/subdir/thispage.html  gets NO slash.

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Re: Charset revisited

[Paul B. Gallagher]

A Williams wrote:

A Williams wrote:

I receive a number of mails in German and after my most recent upgrade
the German special characters are all screwed.

If I then click on "Reply" they render correctly in the Composer.

Seamonkey 2.16
Linux
English as default language
Text (non-html) messages.

Just for fun I'll append the standard German specials:
ÄÖÜ, äöü, ß
(= Ae Oe Ue, ae oe ue, ss)


Seamonkey 2.16.1 under WinXP has the same problem.
Those special chars above render correctly in both cases.

I'm pretty sure that levels previous to 2.16 behaved differently.

One thing I claimed above was rubbish though - I was reading the mails
as html, not text.  Changing the setting to text fixed the problem.
Since my outgoing mails are text, that is why Composer was behaving
correctly.


Note that Composer is not the same as the mail composition applet. 
Composer is an outdated HTML editor.


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Re: Make zoom permanent?

[upscope]

On Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:10:33 PM David E. Ross wrote:
> On 3/9/13 9:01 AM, G. Ross wrote:
> > Web pages have to be zoomed to 75% for me to see the entire width.  Is
> > there a way to make this permanent?
> 
> Try the following:
> 
> 1.  On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit > Preferences].
> 
> 2.  On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, select
> [Appearance > Content].
> 
> 3.  On the Content pane, put a check mark in the checkbox for "Remember
> zoom levels on per-site basis".
> 
> 4.  Select the OK button.
I am using 2.16.2 and your suggestion appears to work Will see what happen 
after 
reboot tonight. Thanks for posting this.
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Re: Email error message

[A Williams]

keith_w wrote:

At 0951 today, A Wiliiams (who chooses to hide a valid return email
address) said:

"If adding a "/" at the end of the link fixes it, I'd do it.  Your
PC-Illiterate friend should still be able to click on it."

If you don't mind, what function does the addition of a forward slash at
the end of a link perform?

keith whaley



The important thing is, it does not break the link.

If I posted a real email address it would be spammed.  Nowadays I tend 
to use an alias if I have to provide a valid address (which this one 
does not require), my provider allows up to 5 aliases on each real 
address.  Once the spam starts coming in, that alias is history.




On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:51 AM, A Williams wrote:


Danny Kile wrote:


Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:


Danny Kile wrote:

  Danny Kile wrote:



Please 5.7.0 visit
http://support.google.com/**mail/bin/answer.py?answer=6590...




OK some more testing done and I have found that if the link is something
other than a .com, lets say speedtest.net or or whatever.xxx it works.
It just can not be a whatever.com. Seems like it see the .com as an
executable file and not a link. Is there a setting in SM to keep it from
putting my links in the Attachment list?



".com" is on the list of file types google prohibits, according to the
support link you first posted. A .com file is a command file type
extension. Remember those from the old DOS days?

Perhaps you could obfuscate it is some fashion, and tell your
recipient to
change it back? Also try including a trailing slash in your link to
see if
that gets by the google filter.  http://example.com/  <--

Or use a less restrictive mail service?   ;-)



"".com" is on the list of file types google prohibits", yes I know this
I read the google link listed in the error message. I remember file
extension from long before DOS day, back in HDOS and CP/M days.

As far as changing the link goes I should not have to. I will sometimes
do research for a family member who can barely turn on the PC. If I go
to a web page and then do a send to mail recipient I just want it to go
without an problems. I have look back in my sent folder and found where
I did this in the past and the links where not listed in the Attachment
list. I can also do a send message as new and resent it and it goes
without a hitch, and the links are not listed in the Attachment List.

"Or use a less restrictive mail service?   ;-)" Well I live in and
travel in a RV so I never have the same ISP or a permanent IP. So I can
receive mail on any of my 6 email account buy not send. This is due to
one ISP not allowing may from another domain not a different domain
access if not a member of that domain. So I use G-mail account and send
all my other account thru the G-mail SMTP. That way I can send mail as
well as receive it no matter where I am. If there is a better way to do
this let me know.

I guess my question is this SM use to not put my links in the Attachment
List, why does it do it now? I can create the mails and then just delete
the attachment in the list and it goes through.

Thank you,

Danny



If adding a "/" at the end of the link fixes it, I'd do it.  Your
PC-Illiterate friend should still be able to click on it.
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Re: Charset revisited

[A Williams]

A Williams wrote:

I receive a number of mails in German and after my most recent upgrade
the German special characters are all screwed.

If I then click on "Reply" they render correctly in the Composer.

Seamonkey 2.16
Linux
English as default language
Text (non-html) messages.

Just for fun I'll append the standard German specials:
ÄÖÜ, äöü, ß
(= Ae Oe Ue, ae oe ue, ss)


Seamonkey 2.16.1 under WinXP has the same problem.
Those special chars above render correctly in both cases.

I'm pretty sure that levels previous to 2.16 behaved differently.

One thing I claimed above was rubbish though - I was reading the mails 
as html, not text.  Changing the setting to text fixed the problem. 
Since my outgoing mails are text, that is why Composer was behaving 
correctly.

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Re: Email error message

[keith_w]

At 0951 today, A Wiliiams (who chooses to hide a valid return email
address) said:

"If adding a "/" at the end of the link fixes it, I'd do it.  Your
PC-Illiterate friend should still be able to click on it."

If you don't mind, what function does the addition of a forward slash at
the end of a link perform?

keith whaley


On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:51 AM, A Williams wrote:

> Danny Kile wrote:
>
>> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>>
>>> Danny Kile wrote:
>>>
>>>  Danny Kile wrote:
>>
>>> Please 5.7.0 visit
>>> http://support.google.com/**mail/bin/answer.py?answer=6590...
>>>
>>
 OK some more testing done and I have found that if the link is something
 other than a .com, lets say speedtest.net or or whatever.xxx it works.
 It just can not be a whatever.com. Seems like it see the .com as an
 executable file and not a link. Is there a setting in SM to keep it from
 putting my links in the Attachment list?

>>>
>>> ".com" is on the list of file types google prohibits, according to the
>>> support link you first posted. A .com file is a command file type
>>> extension. Remember those from the old DOS days?
>>>
>>> Perhaps you could obfuscate it is some fashion, and tell your
>>> recipient to
>>> change it back? Also try including a trailing slash in your link to
>>> see if
>>> that gets by the google filter.  http://example.com/  <--
>>>
>>> Or use a less restrictive mail service?   ;-)
>>>
>>>
>> "".com" is on the list of file types google prohibits", yes I know this
>> I read the google link listed in the error message. I remember file
>> extension from long before DOS day, back in HDOS and CP/M days.
>>
>> As far as changing the link goes I should not have to. I will sometimes
>> do research for a family member who can barely turn on the PC. If I go
>> to a web page and then do a send to mail recipient I just want it to go
>> without an problems. I have look back in my sent folder and found where
>> I did this in the past and the links where not listed in the Attachment
>> list. I can also do a send message as new and resent it and it goes
>> without a hitch, and the links are not listed in the Attachment List.
>>
>> "Or use a less restrictive mail service?   ;-)" Well I live in and
>> travel in a RV so I never have the same ISP or a permanent IP. So I can
>> receive mail on any of my 6 email account buy not send. This is due to
>> one ISP not allowing may from another domain not a different domain
>> access if not a member of that domain. So I use G-mail account and send
>> all my other account thru the G-mail SMTP. That way I can send mail as
>> well as receive it no matter where I am. If there is a better way to do
>> this let me know.
>>
>> I guess my question is this SM use to not put my links in the Attachment
>> List, why does it do it now? I can create the mails and then just delete
>> the attachment in the list and it goes through.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Danny
>>
>
> If adding a "/" at the end of the link fixes it, I'd do it.  Your
> PC-Illiterate friend should still be able to click on it.
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Charset revisited

[A Williams]

I receive a number of mails in German and after my most recent upgrade 
the German special characters are all screwed.


If I then click on "Reply" they render correctly in the Composer.

Seamonkey 2.16
Linux
English as default language
Text (non-html) messages.

Just for fun I'll append the standard German specials:
ÄÖÜ, äöü, ß
(= Ae Oe Ue, ae oe ue, ss)
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Re: Email error message

[A Williams]

Danny Kile wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Danny Kile wrote:


Danny Kile wrote:

Please 5.7.0 visit
http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?answer=6590 ...


OK some more testing done and I have found that if the link is something
other than a .com, lets say speedtest.net or or whatever.xxx it works.
It just can not be a whatever.com. Seems like it see the .com as an
executable file and not a link. Is there a setting in SM to keep it from
putting my links in the Attachment list?


".com" is on the list of file types google prohibits, according to the
support link you first posted. A .com file is a command file type
extension. Remember those from the old DOS days?

Perhaps you could obfuscate it is some fashion, and tell your
recipient to
change it back? Also try including a trailing slash in your link to
see if
that gets by the google filter.  http://example.com/  <--

Or use a less restrictive mail service?   ;-)



"".com" is on the list of file types google prohibits", yes I know this
I read the google link listed in the error message. I remember file
extension from long before DOS day, back in HDOS and CP/M days.

As far as changing the link goes I should not have to. I will sometimes
do research for a family member who can barely turn on the PC. If I go
to a web page and then do a send to mail recipient I just want it to go
without an problems. I have look back in my sent folder and found where
I did this in the past and the links where not listed in the Attachment
list. I can also do a send message as new and resent it and it goes
without a hitch, and the links are not listed in the Attachment List.

"Or use a less restrictive mail service?   ;-)" Well I live in and
travel in a RV so I never have the same ISP or a permanent IP. So I can
receive mail on any of my 6 email account buy not send. This is due to
one ISP not allowing may from another domain not a different domain
access if not a member of that domain. So I use G-mail account and send
all my other account thru the G-mail SMTP. That way I can send mail as
well as receive it no matter where I am. If there is a better way to do
this let me know.

I guess my question is this SM use to not put my links in the Attachment
List, why does it do it now? I can create the mails and then just delete
the attachment in the list and it goes through.

Thank you,

Danny


If adding a "/" at the end of the link fixes it, I'd do it.  Your 
PC-Illiterate friend should still be able to click on it.

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Re: Make zoom permanent?

[Roger Fink]

Ant wrote:
> On 3/10/2013 9:43 PM PT, Roger Fink typed:
>
>> You can try the No Squint extension. It is site-specific and will
>> remember its last setting on a given site, provided you set it up
>> that way. In addons.mozilla.org it is totally unclear to me what the
>> latest version is for SeaMonkey, but whatever it is it probably will
>> need to be tweaked to work in a late version of SeaMonkey. I'm using
>> v. 1.93.2.1 in SeaMonkey 2.15.2 with no problem.
>
> It's fully compatible? I thought it wasn't. How come you are not using
> v2.16.1?

I'm not sure but part of it may be due to not accepting whatever I'm offered 
out of habit.
On a less-of-a-big-picture note, all Mozilla offerings have to deal with the 
difficulty of continually out of date, or discontinued, themes and 
extensions developed by volunteers. I'm not complaining, but finding 
workarounds for this is not always straightforward, so I try to limit my 
upgrades to every couple of years. 


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Re: Mozilla says no plans to return to iOS

[A Williams]

Sailfish wrote:

REF:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-14013_3-57573440/mozilla-says-no-plans-to-return-to-ios/


[excerpt quote=\"
Sullivan and Opera Software's Mike Taylor, also on the panel, shared the
same viewpoint. They all argued that giving consumers browser choice was
essential to making browsers, and the Web in general, great.

And, Sullivan argued, Apple's closed environment means users suffer.

It's a viewpoint that the general public might not share. Rosenblatt
queried the audience to find out how many people were iOS users, and a
majority of hands went up. By contrast, when he asked how many of them
were suffering, just a few hands surfaced.
\" /]

The questioned not asked is how many of the iOS users were using
non-Safari and non-Chrome browsers. My guess is that even fewer would
raise their hand which, I suspect, is a big reason Mozilla has decided
not to waste resources just becoming another Apple webkit clone.



Mucrosoft have just been told to pay the best part of a Zillion dollars 
to the EU for violating a previous agreement to offer users a choice of 
browsers.  They implemented it for XP and then forgot (?) for Win7.  I 
never saw the point in it the way it was implemented and just installed 
Seamonkey anyway.


The only thing preventing Apple from running into this problem is that 
people who don't want that closed environment just avoid getting 
anything from that company.  Windows was so ubiquitous, it was almost 
impossible to avoid.  MS were also re-interpreting interoperability 
standards whenever they felt like it, Apple are not big enough to do 
that either (??).

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Re: Make zoom permanent?

[David E. Ross]

On 3/11/13 6:52 AM, G. Ross wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 3/9/13 9:01 AM, G. Ross wrote:
>>>  Web pages have to be zoomed to 75% for me to see the entire width.  Is
>>>  there a way to make this permanent?
>>>
>>
>> Try the following:
>>
>> 1.  On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit>  Preferences].
>>
>> 2.  On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, select
>> [Appearance>  Content].
>>
>> 3.  On the Content pane, put a check mark in the checkbox for "Remember
>> zoom levels on per-site basis".
>>
>> 4.  Select the OK button.
>>
> Thanks for the suggestions.  Nothing is working so far (haven't tried 
> the no
> squint.)  Should have mentioned this is 2.014 on Win7. The content 
> pane does not have a check box for "Remember zoom levels".  It only 
> has "Use smooth scrolling" whatever that is, "Resize large images to 
> fit --", and "Zoom only text, not full page".
> 
> I hate Windows 7.
> 

Try my suggestion AFTER upgrading to SeaMonkey 2.16.1.

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Re: Charset

[Gary Montalbine]

Thanks for the extremely helpful info. Apparently a recent update to the 
seamonkey html editor has made windows-1252 the default and can not be 
changed. I shall continue with SeaMonkey and windows-1252.

Gary

On 03/11/2013 10:05 AM, MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 11/03/2013 10:14, Gary Montalbine told the world:

I have this website:
http://knottsislandonline.com/kiscrapbook/index.html

Using seamonkey as my html editor, I have just noticed my charset has
changed to

By declaring a charset, you tell the browser of the website visitor how
to interpret the binary codes that make up the HTML. If you declare
ASCII, for instance, the browser will consider any character other than
the old 7-bit US-ASCII as "invalid". That gives you just 95 printable
characters, leaving out all the international characters, like "á". You
would have to resort to character entities like "á" to get the
same effect, which is a bit cumbersome.

iso-8859-1 is a standard for Western European character encoding. It
adds almost a hundred new characters, covering most Western European
languages. So by declaring iso-8859-1 you can write in French, Spanish,
Portuguese, Italian, German, Dutch etc. without resorting to cumbersome
entities, just by typing the words.

Windows-1252 is a superset of iso-8859-1. Basically, by declaring
windows-1252 you get to use some 32 Windows characters that are
forbidden in iso-8859-1, and you lose nothing.

This Wikipedia page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows-1252

has an easy-to-understand table right on the top right. Black characters
are ASCII, green ones are the ones added by iso-8859-1, red ones are
added by windows-1252.

Of course, if you want to use other characters, like Greek, Cyrillic,
Indian scripts, Thai, Chinese, Japanese, Korean and such, not even
windows-1252 will suffice. That's where Unicode comes in, but that's a
subject for another time.


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Re: Make zoom permanent?

[Roger Fink]

G. Ross wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 3/9/13 9:01 AM, G. Ross wrote:
>>>  Web pages have to be zoomed to 75% for me to see the entire width.
>>>  Is there a way to make this permanent?
>>>
>>
>> Try the following:
>>
>> 1.  On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit>  Preferences].
>>
>> 2.  On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, select
>> [Appearance>  Content].
>>
>> 3.  On the Content pane, put a check mark in the checkbox for
>> "Remember zoom levels on per-site basis".
>>
>> 4.  Select the OK button.
>>
> Thanks for the suggestions.  Nothing is working so far (haven't tried
> the no
> squint.)  Should have mentioned this is 2.014 on Win7. The content
> pane does not have a check box for "Remember zoom levels".  It only
> has "Use smooth scrolling" whatever that is, "Resize large images to
> fit --", and "Zoom only text, not full page".
>
> I hate Windows 7.

Have I got a deal for you! The guy who developed this fixed everything you 
don't like, even the stupid dialogues when you overwrite a file, and then 
some. Everything intuitive that msft changed to counterintuitive for the 
sake of change ($$$) he changed back. There are later versions, but this was 
the last one before Windows 8. Be sure to disable automatic updates, which, 
it is said, impede performance.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/classicshell/files/Version%203.4.1%20general%20release/


 


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Re: Make zoom permanent?

[Roger Fink]

David E. Ross wrote:
> On 3/9/13 9:01 AM, G. Ross wrote:
>> Web pages have to be zoomed to 75% for me to see the entire width.
>> Is there a way to make this permanent?
>>
>
> Try the following:
>
> 1.  On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit > Preferences].
>
> 2.  On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, select
> [Appearance > Content].
>
> 3.  On the Content pane, put a check mark in the checkbox for
> "Remember zoom levels on per-site basis".
>
> 4.  Select the OK button.

David, thanks for that. Gonna try it. 


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Re: Charset

[Gary Montalbine]

On 03/11/2013 09:57 AM, WaltS wrote:

On 03/11/2013 09:14 AM, Gary Montalbine wrote:

I have this website:
http://knottsislandonline.com/kiscrapbook/index.html

Using seamonkey as my html editor, I have just noticed my charset has
changed to 

What version of SeaMonkey?


Version 2.16


Looking at the source code of a blank HTML page in Composer using SM
2.16.1, I see 


When I open a new page the charset is ISO-8859-1. However when I save it 
the charset is automatically changed to windows-1252. I have no control 
over how it is saved.



The charset tells a browser what character encoding you used to create
your web pages.



Have no idea what is causing yours to change.

My suggestion would be to stop using Composer, and switch to something
like BlueGriffon, or Bluefish.






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Re: Charset

[MCBastos]

Interviewed by CNN on 11/03/2013 10:14, Gary Montalbine told the world:
> I have this website:
> http://knottsislandonline.com/kiscrapbook/index.html
> 
> Using seamonkey as my html editor, I have just noticed my charset has 
> changed to  updates. My default is  random check of my html files on my harddrive indicates my files are 
> changed whenever I access them via seamonkey. This has happened sometime 
> in the last 2 weeks. There has been no change to the html files on the 
> web that are older than 2 weeks. I have no idea what charset is/means or 
> it's effect. When I save a file with charset=ISO-8859-1" it is 
> automatically changed to charset=windows-1252. I have no choice. WHY?
> Thanks, Gary

By declaring a charset, you tell the browser of the website visitor how
to interpret the binary codes that make up the HTML. If you declare
ASCII, for instance, the browser will consider any character other than
the old 7-bit US-ASCII as "invalid". That gives you just 95 printable
characters, leaving out all the international characters, like "á". You
would have to resort to character entities like "á" to get the
same effect, which is a bit cumbersome.

iso-8859-1 is a standard for Western European character encoding. It
adds almost a hundred new characters, covering most Western European
languages. So by declaring iso-8859-1 you can write in French, Spanish,
Portuguese, Italian, German, Dutch etc. without resorting to cumbersome
entities, just by typing the words.

Windows-1252 is a superset of iso-8859-1. Basically, by declaring
windows-1252 you get to use some 32 Windows characters that are
forbidden in iso-8859-1, and you lose nothing.

This Wikipedia page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows-1252

has an easy-to-understand table right on the top right. Black characters
are ASCII, green ones are the ones added by iso-8859-1, red ones are
added by windows-1252.

Of course, if you want to use other characters, like Greek, Cyrillic,
Indian scripts, Thai, Chinese, Japanese, Korean and such, not even
windows-1252 will suffice. That's where Unicode comes in, but that's a
subject for another time.

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use will be prosecuted under the DMCA.

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Re: Charset

[WaltS]

On 03/11/2013 09:14 AM, Gary Montalbine wrote:

I have this website:
http://knottsislandonline.com/kiscrapbook/index.html

Using seamonkey as my html editor, I have just noticed my charset has
changed to 

What version of SeaMonkey?

Looking at the source code of a blank HTML page in Composer using SM 
2.16.1, I see 
http-equiv="Content-Type">

The charset tells a browser what character encoding you used to create 
your web pages.




Have no idea what is causing yours to change.

My suggestion would be to stop using Composer, and switch to something 
like BlueGriffon, or Bluefish.






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Charset

[Gary Montalbine]

I have this website:
http://knottsislandonline.com/kiscrapbook/index.html

Using seamonkey as my html editor, I have just noticed my charset has 
changed to updates. My default is random check of my html files on my harddrive indicates my files are 
changed whenever I access them via seamonkey. This has happened sometime 
in the last 2 weeks. There has been no change to the html files on the 
web that are older than 2 weeks. I have no idea what charset is/means or 
it's effect. When I save a file with charset=ISO-8859-1" it is 
automatically changed to charset=windows-1252. I have no choice. WHY?

Thanks, Gary
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Re: Make zoom permanent?

[G. Ross]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/9/13 9:01 AM, G. Ross wrote:

 Web pages have to be zoomed to 75% for me to see the entire width.  Is
 there a way to make this permanent?



Try the following:

1.  On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit>  Preferences].

2.  On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, select
[Appearance>  Content].

3.  On the Content pane, put a check mark in the checkbox for "Remember
zoom levels on per-site basis".

4.  Select the OK button.

Thanks for the suggestions.  Nothing is working so far (haven't tried 
the no
squint.)  Should have mentioned this is 2.014 on Win7. The content 
pane does not have a check box for "Remember zoom levels".  It only 
has "Use smooth scrolling" whatever that is, "Resize large images to 
fit --", and "Zoom only text, not full page".


I hate Windows 7.

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 count & those who can't.   






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Re: Email error message

[Danny Kile]

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Danny Kile wrote:


Danny Kile wrote:

Please 5.7.0 visit
http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?answer=6590 ...


OK some more testing done and I have found that if the link is something
other than a .com, lets say speedtest.net or or whatever.xxx it works.
It just can not be a whatever.com. Seems like it see the .com as an
executable file and not a link. Is there a setting in SM to keep it from
putting my links in the Attachment list?


".com" is on the list of file types google prohibits, according to the
support link you first posted. A .com file is a command file type
extension. Remember those from the old DOS days?

Perhaps you could obfuscate it is some fashion, and tell your recipient to
change it back? Also try including a trailing slash in your link to see if
that gets by the google filter.  http://example.com/  <--

Or use a less restrictive mail service?   ;-)



"".com" is on the list of file types google prohibits", yes I know this 
I read the google link listed in the error message. I remember file 
extension from long before DOS day, back in HDOS and CP/M days.


As far as changing the link goes I should not have to. I will sometimes 
do research for a family member who can barely turn on the PC. If I go 
to a web page and then do a send to mail recipient I just want it to go 
without an problems. I have look back in my sent folder and found where 
I did this in the past and the links where not listed in the Attachment 
list. I can also do a send message as new and resent it and it goes 
without a hitch, and the links are not listed in the Attachment List.


"Or use a less restrictive mail service?   ;-)" Well I live in and 
travel in a RV so I never have the same ISP or a permanent IP. So I can 
receive mail on any of my 6 email account buy not send. This is due to 
one ISP not allowing may from another domain not a different domain 
access if not a member of that domain. So I use G-mail account and send 
all my other account thru the G-mail SMTP. That way I can send mail as 
well as receive it no matter where I am. If there is a better way to do 
this let me know.


I guess my question is this SM use to not put my links in the Attachment 
List, why does it do it now? I can create the mails and then just delete 
the attachment in the list and it goes through.


Thank you,

Danny
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.16.1 is out

[Daniel]

Rufus wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Hey Guys.

Following along with our traditional security updates, 2.16.1 is now
out
to correct a severe security vulnerability.

You should be able to grab it from our website
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ or directly form the app's
check-for-updates.



...here's hoping for a fix for the drop downs...again...



...so much for that hope...again...


Rufus, could you please refresh my memory about the drop downs
situation??



The drop down menus are drawn incompletely for things like Master
Password request using the SM Modern Theme - the bottom edge is cut off
in such a way that even the buttons are incompletely drawn.  I was told
that the team already had a bug on this so I didn't submit one.

This is just one more of a series of UE/UI type bugs that I've been
waiting on fixes (some of them for *years* now)...and this is a
seemingly pretty simple one, but really annoying from a UE standpoint.
I'm holding my most used machines at SM 2.13.2 until this gets fixed.


Wanted to visualize your problem, but can't seem to find it. Would you
please post the complete sequence of choices that leads you to the
problem?

Note that I use SM Modern in Windows, not Mac. Maybe different?


Probably.  This is annoying because of a combination of two problems,
really -

1) open SM and navigate to a site that requires input of a stored
Password.  The drop down to input you Master Password is drawn short.

2) and this is the *REALLY* annoying one - just opening SM and waiting
for a random period of time *WITHOUT* navigating to a site requires a
stored Password I get a request for my Master Password even though I
have my Pref set to ask only when it's first required.  I wrote this up
as SM bug 724296, and it's been broken since roughly about 1.16.  So now
I have this to deal with, *and* the dialog is drawn short.

...and as an aside to #2 - I now have a Windows 7 Bootcamp install on my
Mac Mini and have been running the Win version of SM there - and even
though I have my Pref set to ask for my Master Password the first time
it is needed it asks at start of session - every time!  So something is
really broken as far as invoking the Pref setting is concerned, I should
think.

You guys could fix this *one* bug alone and make a 200% improvement in
the product in terms of UE, IMO.


How about one thing at a time?!?! (Mac or Master Password??)

Rufus any chance you can set up a test profile *without* using a Master 
Password then see if your drop-downs work correctly??


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Re: Email error message

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Danny Kile wrote:

>>> Danny Kile wrote:
 Please 5.7.0 visit
 http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?answer=6590 ...
> 
> OK some more testing done and I have found that if the link is something
> other than a .com, lets say speedtest.net or or whatever.xxx it works.
> It just can not be a whatever.com. Seems like it see the .com as an
> executable file and not a link. Is there a setting in SM to keep it from
> putting my links in the Attachment list?

".com" is on the list of file types google prohibits, according to the 
support link you first posted. A .com file is a command file type 
extension. Remember those from the old DOS days?

Perhaps you could obfuscate it is some fashion, and tell your recipient to 
change it back? Also try including a trailing slash in your link to see if 
that gets by the google filter.  http://example.com/  <--

Or use a less restrictive mail service?   ;-)

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