Re: An odd SM crash
Ed Mullen wrote: I leave SeaMonkey running, walk away from my PC. Come back some indeterminate number of hours later. Hit the CTRL key to wake up my displays. Screen comes up as expected. Move the mouse around the screen. As the mouse moves over the SM window(s) it wipes/erases the SM image. Right-click, choose Refresh, SM windows dissappear and all is well, Windows desktop and other programs just fine. SM has crashed but no crash report is produced. Run SM and it does ask if I want to re-load the last session or a new one. This started a couple months ago. My video card had died sorta, the fan self-destructed. I couldn't even find the pieces inside the case. Put in a new card and it's still happening. Well, this PC is circa October 2006, still, dual-core, 3GHz, tons of memory and disk space. It may just be age (mine or the PC or both) ... maybe I just relegate this to a server role and buy a new one. Thoughts? I just woke my displays and the above situation was in effect. I did check the crash reports and there is one, generated when Irefreshed the screen: http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-724973d0-3aaa-4ea3-9d62-2f2612130322 -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ It's lonely at the top, but you eat better. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: An odd SM crash
Ed Mullen wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: I leave SeaMonkey running, walk away from my PC. Come back some indeterminate number of hours later. Hit the CTRL key to wake up my displays. Screen comes up as expected. Move the mouse around the screen. As the mouse moves over the SM window(s) it wipes/erases the SM image. Right-click, choose Refresh, SM windows dissappear and all is well, Windows desktop and other programs just fine. SM has crashed but no crash report is produced. Run SM and it does ask if I want to re-load the last session or a new one. This started a couple months ago. My video card had died sorta, the fan self-destructed. I couldn't even find the pieces inside the case. Put in a new card and it's still happening. Well, this PC is circa October 2006, still, dual-core, 3GHz, tons of memory and disk space. It may just be age (mine or the PC or both) ... maybe I just relegate this to a server role and buy a new one. Thoughts? I just woke my displays and the above situation was in effect. I did check the crash reports and there is one, generated when Irefreshed the screen: http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-724973d0-3aaa-4ea3-9d62-2f2612130322 Ed, This may not be a Mozilla problem, it may be a Windows OS problem. Check your desktop settings for: Screen Saver = Blank Screen Saver/Advanced/Power Schemes = Home/Office Desk. Turn off monitor after 15min, all remaining options = Never. Sometimes a program, or web app. will temporarily change the Windows functions, and they need to be reset. Michael G ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: An odd SM crash
Ed Mullen schrieb: I just woke my displays and the above situation was in effect. I did check the crash reports and there is one, generated when Irefreshed the screen: http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-724973d0-3aaa-4ea3-9d62-2f2612130322 That's a crash of the Flash plugin process, not of the SeaMonkey application itself. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: An odd SM crash
On 3/21/13 4:01 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: I leave SeaMonkey running, walk away from my PC. Come back some indeterminate number of hours later. Hit the CTRL key to wake up my displays. Screen comes up as expected. Move the mouse around the screen. As the mouse moves over the SM window(s) it wipes/erases the SM image. Right-click, choose Refresh, SM windows dissappear and all is well, Windows desktop and other programs just fine. SM has crashed but no crash report is produced. Run SM and it does ask if I want to re-load the last session or a new one. This started a couple months ago. My video card had died sorta, the fan self-destructed. I couldn't even find the pieces inside the case. Put in a new card and it's still happening. Well, this PC is circa October 2006, still, dual-core, 3GHz, tons of memory and disk space. It may just be age (mine or the PC or both) ... maybe I just relegate this to a server role and buy a new one. Thoughts? I seem to remember a report that Firefox would usually crash after a sleeping PC (Windows) woke up. I don't remember if this was a Firefox problem or a Windows problem. I would suspect that you are seeing the same failure since SeaMonkey has much in common with Firefox. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Are taxes too high in the U.S.? Check the bar graph at http://www.rossde.com/taxes/trickling.html to see. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Send button lost
Using 2.6.1 in Win7. To send or forward a message there is no Send button. have to press ctrl-enter or click files/send now. Has this been corrected in the newer iterations? -- GW Ross Don't just stand there...KNEEL!! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Send button lost
G. Ross wrote: Using 2.6.1 in Win7. To send or forward a message there is no Send button. have to press ctrl-enter or click files/send now. Has this been corrected in the newer iterations? Working fine here -- did your mail toolbar get hidden? (in the Compose window, View | Show/Hide | Mail Toolbar) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Send button lost
BIll Spikowski wrote: G. Ross wrote: Using 2.6.1 in Win7. To send or forward a message there is no Send button. have to press ctrl-enter or click files/send now. Has this been corrected in the newer iterations? Working fine here -- did your mail toolbar get hidden? (in the Compose window, View | Show/Hide | Mail Toolbar) Thanks! It was checked in the Show/hide as usual, but there was a little handle below the address section. I clicked it and all is well. I don't understand it but it is still checked and now it is visible. -- GW Ross Don't just stand there...KNEEL!! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Seamonkey memory leak
Is there any progress towards addressing the rather severe memory leak that Seamonkey experiences under Windows 7 32-bit ? I have just forcibly terminated the Seamonkey process when its VM exceeded 1Gb, and on restarting with an identical set of open windows, the VM usage is once again back to a far more reasonable 0,3Gb. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Usenet in SM
Ant sent the following on Wed, 20 Mar 2013 22:40:14 -0700: On 3/19/2013 12:40 PM PT, Jim G. typed: Yep. And what time is devoted to things will probably be on the email side of things, as most people under 35 have probably never even heard of USENET. Once in a while, I take a look at the web boards on a place like Reddit and laugh that kids today think that that's a better way to communicate and exchange ideas online. Oh, well... Please forgive my ignorance but what's Reddit?? ;-) The new(er) Digg. It's basically a big news-gathering and -sharing playground for 20-something-year-old guys and other guys who wish that they were still 20-something. I used to use Digg until they went downhill withi its v4 and revamped the whole thing. I switched to Reddit like most Diggers. I still use newsgroups/usenet, /., IRC, text based programs, SSH2, etc. :) USENET and the old Compuserve with its venerable forums pretty much guaranteed that I would never be happy with web-based interactions. To me, this sort of thing requires an offline reader and some really good filters, neither of which is available on most web forums. -- Jim G. [Insert your favorite clever tagline here.] ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Usenet in SM
Daniel sent the following on Wed, 20 Mar 2013 19:41:39 +1100: Jim G. wrote: Daniel sent the following on Sat, 16 Mar 2013 20:19:02 +1100: Jim G. wrote: Snip Yep. And what time is devoted to things will probably be on the email side of things, as most people under 35 have probably never even heard of USENET. Once in a while, I take a look at the web boards on a place like Reddit and laugh that kids today think that that's a better way to communicate and exchange ideas online. Oh, well... Please forgive my ignorance but what's Reddit?? ;-) The new(er) Digg. It's basically a big news-gathering and -sharing playground for 20-something-year-old guys and other guys who wish that they were still 20-something. Thanks, still don't know, but I'm now pretty sure I don't need to know!! Somone provided a Wikipedia link to info, and you can always just visit the site. It's nothing more or less than a web-based BBS-like system. It's easy enough to visit the thing and get a feel for it. You won't get arrested, or anything. :) -- Jim G. [Insert your favorite clever tagline here.] ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Need help with Address Book file
After upgrading to SM 2.16.2, I lost an address book list in Address Book. After looking through my profile I see several address book file named, abook.mab, abook1.mab, abook2.mab, abook3.mab, abook4.mab. I opened each one in WordPad just to look and see. Seems the one I am missing is the abook1.mab. Looks like the address are all still in this file, it's just that SM is not recognizing this file. How can I correct this? Any help would be appreciated greatly, Danny ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Usenet in SM
On 3/22/13 12:56 PM, Jim G. wrote: Ant sent the following on Wed, 20 Mar 2013 22:40:14 -0700: On 3/19/2013 12:40 PM PT, Jim G. typed: Yep. And what time is devoted to things will probably be on the email side of things, as most people under 35 have probably never even heard of USENET. Once in a while, I take a look at the web boards on a place like Reddit and laugh that kids today think that that's a better way to communicate and exchange ideas online. Oh, well... Please forgive my ignorance but what's Reddit?? ;-) The new(er) Digg. It's basically a big news-gathering and -sharing playground for 20-something-year-old guys and other guys who wish that they were still 20-something. I used to use Digg until they went downhill withi its v4 and revamped the whole thing. I switched to Reddit like most Diggers. I still use newsgroups/usenet, /., IRC, text based programs, SSH2, etc. :) USENET and the old Compuserve with its venerable forums pretty much guaranteed that I would never be happy with web-based interactions. To me, this sort of thing requires an offline reader and some really good filters, neither of which is available on most web forums. Another feature of NNTP (which includes USENET and other newsgroups) missing in Web-based forums is the fact that non-propriety newsgroups are not tied to a particular host. A list that was updated less than a year ago has over 70 stand-alone NSPs (news service providers), most of which cover the Big8 hierarchies (comp.*, news.*, sci.*, humanities.*, rec.*, soc.*, talk.*, and misc.*). Some NSPs are even free. If I post a message to a newsgroup hosted at reader.albasani.net, someone else can read it and reply to it at news.eternal-september.org. And a third person can also read and reply at news.giganews.com. We do not all have to be logged in to the same host. When I cite non-propriety newsgroups, I mean newsgroups generally not controlled by some enterprise. Mozilla's news.mozilla.org hosts proprietary newsgroups. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Are taxes too high in the U.S.? Check the bar graph at http://www.rossde.com/taxes/trickling.html to see. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: An odd SM crash
Robert Kaiser wrote: Ed Mullen schrieb: I just woke my displays and the above situation was in effect. I did check the crash reports and there is one, generated when Irefreshed the screen: http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-724973d0-3aaa-4ea3-9d62-2f2612130322 That's a crash of the Flash plugin process, not of the SeaMonkey application itself. Robert Kaiser Interesting. I wonder if that was the problem when YouTube would crash my FF s often that I only use Chrome for YouTube anymore. GW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need help with Address Book file
Danny Kile wrote: After upgrading to SM 2.16.2, I lost an address book list in Address Book. After looking through my profile I see several address book file named, abook.mab, abook1.mab, abook2.mab, abook3.mab, abook4.mab. I opened each one in WordPad just to look and see. Seems the one I am missing is the abook1.mab. Looks like the address are all still in this file, it's just that SM is not recognizing this file. How can I correct this? Any help would be appreciated greatly, Danny With SM closed/quit/exited/off Remove the 1 from the name abook1.mabright AFTER you delete all the others. You can usually verify the uselessness of extra 1,2,3,4 files if get info shows modification dates from days/weeks/months ago. GW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: An odd SM crash
Geoff Welsh wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Ed Mullen schrieb: I just woke my displays and the above situation was in effect. I did check the crash reports and there is one, generated when Irefreshed the screen: http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-724973d0-3aaa-4ea3-9d62-2f2612130322 That's a crash of the Flash plugin process, not of the SeaMonkey application itself. Robert Kaiser Interesting. I wonder if that was the problem when YouTube would crash my FF s often that I only use Chrome for YouTube anymore. I thought the plugin processes had been isolated (with much fanfare) so they /couldn't/ crash SeaMonkey. Was that all a big lie, or did I misunderstand? -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need help with Address Book file
Geoff Welsh wrote: Danny Kile wrote: After upgrading to SM 2.16.2, I lost an address book list in Address Book. After looking through my profile I see several address book file named, abook.mab, abook1.mab, abook2.mab, abook3.mab, abook4.mab. I opened each one in WordPad just to look and see. Seems the one I am missing is the abook1.mab. Looks like the address are all still in this file, it's just that SM is not recognizing this file. How can I correct this? Any help would be appreciated greatly, Danny With SM closed/quit/exited/off Remove the 1 from the name abook1.mabright AFTER you delete all the others. You can usually verify the uselessness of extra 1,2,3,4 files if get info shows modification dates from days/weeks/months ago. GW Wow can not do that, abook.mab, abook1.mab, abook2.mab, abook3.mab, abook4.mab are all good files the are all different Address List. If I deleted abook.mab that would get rid of my main address book list. Out of the five files they all show up in the address book as they should except the abook1.mab file. I just need to get SM to know that it is there. Thank you, Danny ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need help with Address Book file
Danny Kile wrote: Geoff Welsh wrote: Danny Kile wrote: After upgrading to SM 2.16.2, I lost an address book list in Address Book. After looking through my profile I see several address book file named, abook.mab, abook1.mab, abook2.mab, abook3.mab, abook4.mab. I opened each one in WordPad just to look and see. Seems the one I am missing is the abook1.mab. Looks like the address are all still in this file, it's just that SM is not recognizing this file. How can I correct this? Any help would be appreciated greatly, Danny With SM closed/quit/exited/off Remove the 1 from the name abook1.mabright AFTER you delete all the others. You can usually verify the uselessness of extra 1,2,3,4 files if get info shows modification dates from days/weeks/months ago. GW Wow can not do that, abook.mab, abook1.mab, abook2.mab, abook3.mab, abook4.mab are all good files the are all different Address List. If I deleted abook.mab that would get rid of my main address book list. Out of the five files they all show up in the address book as they should except the abook1.mab file. I just need to get SM to know that it is there. Thank you, Danny Oh, sorry. I've only ever seen 1,2,3 like that when they were created by crashes, not on purpose. GW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need help with Address Book file
Danny Kile wrote: After upgrading to SM 2.16.2, I lost an address book list in Address Book. After looking through my profile I see several address book file named, abook.mab, abook1.mab, abook2.mab, abook3.mab, abook4.mab. I opened each one in WordPad just to look and see. Seems the one I am missing is the abook1.mab. Looks like the address are all still in this file, it's just that SM is not recognizing this file. How can I correct this? Any help would be appreciated greatly, Danny OK! I found the solution to my problem, lets see if I can put this in words that other will understand. Looking through my Profile Directory I found the following files named, abook.mab, abook-1.mab, abook-2.mab, abook-3.mab, abook-4.mab. Personal Address Book is attached to abook.mab, the second address book did not show up and should have been attached to abook-1.mab. Now the third address book did show up and was attached to abook-2.mab and-so-forth-and-so-forth. To correct the problem I created a new second address book without any address. This created a new file abook-5.mab. I then went into about:config and searched for abook-5.mab which is pointing to second address book. I then changed the second address book so it was pointing to abook-1.mab, which was the file with all the address in it. I then delete the file abook-5.mab in the profile folder. At last I have all of my address. I hope this helps someone if they run into this problem. If there is an easier way to do this please let me know. Thank you, If I say so my self thank you self. Danny ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
