Newer Flash player plugins go berserk/crazy/bonker in SeaMonkey v2.1x.x in an old 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 box.

[Ant]

Hello.

Has anyone had Flash videos go blank and act weird as shown in 
http://i.imgur.com/GugQV05.gif as an example? I have to either exit/quit 
SeaMonkey or kill Flash's plugin-container.exe process. I did not have 
this problems with older Flash versions like v11.5 or earlier. It 
started recently with v11.6 and v11.7 IIRC. It seems to happen a lot 
lately. I tried clearing caches, but that doesn't seem to help.


I keep my SeaMonkey, Windows, and Flash player plugins/addon updated. I 
never see this problem on my office machine with 64-bit W7 EE SP1 and 
similiar softwares installed. 
http://pastie.org/private/biufyftsz7kofbu1kk6q for my Process Explorer 
v15.3 dump of Flash's plugin-container.exe going wacky.


Thank you in advance. :)
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Re: Problem with password manager

[Rufus]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/27/13 11:02 AM, Rufus wrote:

no...@nonospam.org wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

You can also move passwords from one PC to another with the Password
Exporter extension at
.
The page says that it is not available for SeaMonkey 2.17.1.  You can
make it available; let me know if you want the instructions for doing
that.


Please tell me how to do this. Thanks very much!

John



You can also do it by simply moving/replacing a file from one Profile to
another.

1) create any new Default or other Profiles you want; set the Master
Password in those Profiles to be the same as the one from which you are
moving Passwords.

2) in each Profile you will find a file with a name like 12345678.s -
make a copy of this file, and rename the copy to the same name as
created within the new Profile; replace that with this new one.

3) change the Master Password in the new Profile - *Change* not Reset!

This may also work if you have null Master Passwords in each Profile (I
haven't tried that case)...which *WHY* you should *always* use/set a
*strong* Master Password.



Your method will remove any passwords on the target computer that are
not also on the source computer.



I was strictly about transferring an entire set into a *new* or fresh 
Default Profile; not about moving individual ones...which was why I 
started by saying to create new ones.


And the security comment still stands for anyone not using a strong 
Master Password...consider yourself warned.


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Re: Problem with password manager

[David E. Ross]

On 4/27/13 11:02 AM, Rufus wrote:
> no...@nonospam.org wrote:
>> David E. Ross wrote:
>>> You can also move passwords from one PC to another with the Password
>>> Exporter extension at
>>> .
>>> The page says that it is not available for SeaMonkey 2.17.1.  You can
>>> make it available; let me know if you want the instructions for doing
>>> that.
>>>
>> Please tell me how to do this. Thanks very much!
>>
>> John
>>
> 
> You can also do it by simply moving/replacing a file from one Profile to 
> another.
> 
> 1) create any new Default or other Profiles you want; set the Master 
> Password in those Profiles to be the same as the one from which you are 
> moving Passwords.
> 
> 2) in each Profile you will find a file with a name like 12345678.s - 
> make a copy of this file, and rename the copy to the same name as 
> created within the new Profile; replace that with this new one.
> 
> 3) change the Master Password in the new Profile - *Change* not Reset!
> 
> This may also work if you have null Master Passwords in each Profile (I 
> haven't tried that case)...which *WHY* you should *always* use/set a 
> *strong* Master Password.
> 

Your method will remove any passwords on the target computer that are
not also on the source computer.

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Re: Installing Seamonkey 2.17.1 Questions

[Gerry Hickman]

Ray_Net wrote:


XP is too complicated for me, so i am using Linux. *g*



I was obliged to work 5 years with a unix system, i have seen how
complicated Linux is ...


One of the interesting things is that Mozilla has become the default 
Linux browser, no sign of IE, Chrome or Safari (by default). Linux has 
actually become a lot simpler, you can set up a CentOS Virtual Machine 
in around 30 minutes using the quick setup features of VMWare Player or 
VirtualBox. That will give you a desktop with Mozilla browser, Open 
Office, graphics, music player etc. You can create an Enterprise server 
(free of charge) if you've got a spare machine in under an hour, because 
things like apache, tomcat, java, mysql are all built in.



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Re: RFE: Bundling BlueGriffon

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2013-04-25 10:42 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2013-04-24 3:26 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:

Sure, take out the part that the rest of us use for what we do,
and replace with something that suits you better. Composer works
perfectly for what it does, ideal for small simple web pages, HTML
documents, etc.


AFAIK, that's what BlueGriffon does. "BlueGriffon is an intuitive
application that provides Web authors (beginners or more advanced)
with a simple User Interface allowing to create attractive Web sites
without requiring extensive technical knowledge about Web
Standards."


In that case, could you give us a quick readout of the potential upsides
and downsides of integrating it into the suite in place of Composer?

What impediments would there be -- technical, legal, logistical, etc.?

How doable is it?

P.S. Sorry, I tried to send this to mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey, but
SeaMonkey refused to cooperate. Do I need to be subscribed to post there?


No, you don't need to be subscribed to post there.


Here's what I get:
Sending of message failed.
Please verify that your Mail & Newsgroups settings
are correct and try again.

I suppose Ed must be right, because the same exact settings work fine here.


I don't know the answers to your development questions.


OK, thanks anyway.

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Re: Problem with password manager

[Rufus]

no...@nonospam.org wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

You can also move passwords from one PC to another with the Password
Exporter extension at
.
The page says that it is not available for SeaMonkey 2.17.1.  You can
make it available; let me know if you want the instructions for doing
that.


Please tell me how to do this. Thanks very much!

John



You can also do it by simply moving/replacing a file from one Profile to 
another.


1) create any new Default or other Profiles you want; set the Master 
Password in those Profiles to be the same as the one from which you are 
moving Passwords.


2) in each Profile you will find a file with a name like 12345678.s - 
make a copy of this file, and rename the copy to the same name as 
created within the new Profile; replace that with this new one.


3) change the Master Password in the new Profile - *Change* not Reset!

This may also work if you have null Master Passwords in each Profile (I 
haven't tried that case)...which *WHY* you should *always* use/set a 
*strong* Master Password.


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Re: Problem with password manager

[notme]

David E. Ross wrote:

The above is NOT necessary for Remember Passwords 1.1 at
.


I installed Remember Passwords 1.1 and it seems to be the solution I was 
seeking. Thanks!


John

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Re: RFE: Bundling BlueGriffon

[Chris Ilias]

On 2013-04-25 10:42 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2013-04-24 3:26 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:

Sure, take out the part that the rest of us use for what we do,
and replace with something that suits you better. Composer works
perfectly for what it does, ideal for small simple web pages, HTML
documents, etc.


AFAIK, that's what BlueGriffon does. "BlueGriffon is an intuitive
application that provides Web authors (beginners or more advanced)
with a simple User Interface allowing to create attractive Web sites
without requiring extensive technical knowledge about Web
Standards."


In that case, could you give us a quick readout of the potential upsides
and downsides of integrating it into the suite in place of Composer?

What impediments would there be -- technical, legal, logistical, etc.?

How doable is it?

P.S. Sorry, I tried to send this to mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey, but
SeaMonkey refused to cooperate. Do I need to be subscribed to post there?


No, you don't need to be subscribed to post there.

I don't know the answers to your development questions.

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Re: Problem with password manager

[David E. Ross]

On 4/27/13 3:29 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> You can also move passwords from one PC to another with the Password
>> Exporter extension at
>> .
>> The page says that it is not available for SeaMonkey 2.17.1.  You can
>> make it available; let me know if you want the instructions for doing
>> that.
>>
> Please tell me how to do this. Thanks very much!
> 
> John
> 

1.  At
,
place your cursor over the gray "+ Add to SeaMonkey" button.
Right-click and select "Save Link Target As" from the pull-down context
menu.  Remember where you save the .xpi file.

2.  Go to the .xpi file.  Open it in a ZIP application (e.g., WinZip),
but do not extract any files.  Instead, edit file install.rdf as in step #3.

3.  Scroll to the bottom of install.rdf.  Under the line

find the line
2.1b1
Change that to be
2.19
Save the result.  In WinZip, that will save the changed install.rdf back
into the .xpi file.

Now you may install Password Exporter 1.2.1 in SeaMonkey 2.17.1.

The above is NOT necessary for Remember Passwords 1.1 at
.

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Re: Problem with password manager

[notme]

Geoff Welsh wrote:

or, you might have to clear all the cookies, if at some point you
selected "never remember" password.


I cleared the cookies for the particular website, but that didn't help. 
Thanks for the suggestion.


John

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Re: Problem with password manager

[notme]

Daniel wrote:

John, have a look at Tools->Password Manager->Manage Stored Passwords to
see if you have a wrong password stored for the site. If so, delete the
entry, o.k. your way out and try to access the site. Maybe you'll get
asked for the password this time


Thanks for the suggestion, but that isn't the problem. There is no 
password stored for the site in question.


John

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Re: Problem with password manager

[notme]

David E. Ross wrote:

You can also move passwords from one PC to another with the Password
Exporter extension at
.
The page says that it is not available for SeaMonkey 2.17.1.  You can
make it available; let me know if you want the instructions for doing
that.


Please tell me how to do this. Thanks very much!

John

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Re: Installing Seamonkey 2.17.1 Questions

[Paul B. Gallagher]

A Williams wrote:


Bill Gates left years ago, blame Steve Balmer.

There are persistent rumours that SP1 for Win8 is going to include a
setting you can use to make it look like Win7.  There is some App
available on the 'net which already does that and it has over a million
downloads.  Even Microsoft has realised they may have a problem.

Windows generally has the problem of backward-compatability.  Programs
which ran under previous levels should run under newer levels.  Recent
versions have dropped some support for really old software but that has
always been the reason for "passed over garbage".
A lot of effort has gone into making Win8 boot quickly and then run fast
(and securely) on modern hardware.  Then some fool decided the UI should
look like that of a touch-screen smartphone.


I don't care much about how it looks -- a different color skeme or schin 
or whatever is really irrelevant. I do care about how it works and 
whether I can find $#!+. I do care about learning to use my computer all 
over again from scratch every two years.


And that's probably why they're making it like a smartphone -- because a 
bunch of idiots out there already know how to use smartphones and it's 
oh so terribly difficult to learn the completely different system used 
on desktop computers.


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Re: Installing Seamonkey 2.17.1 Questions

[A Williams]

DoctorBill wrote:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

DoctorBill:


Still hanging on to XP by my fingernails.


XP is too complicated for me, so i am using Linux. *g*

Hartmut



Well - just about the time I get comfortable with a Windows Version, old
Bill Gates changes itthen goes about his life as a Gozillionaire.

Windows 8 is nice (I heard)but how much of it's programming is
passed over garbage (i.e. "Goto" past the old lines of Mach lang).

If it were completely rewritten, how much smaller would it be ?




Bill Gates left years ago, blame Steve Balmer.

There are persistent rumours that SP1 for Win8 is going to include a 
setting you can use to make it look like Win7.  There is some App 
available on the 'net which already does that and it has over a million 
downloads.  Even Microsoft has realised they may have a problem.


Windows generally has the problem of backward-compatability.  Programs 
which ran under previous levels should run under newer levels.  Recent 
versions have dropped some support for really old software but that has 
always been the reason for "passed over garbage".
A lot of effort has gone into making Win8 boot quickly and then run fast 
(and securely) on modern hardware.  Then some fool decided the UI should 
look like that of a touch-screen smartphone.

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Re: Installing Seamonkey 2.17.1 Questions

[A Williams]

DoctorBill wrote:

A Williams wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I have a rather 'computer illiterate' friend who has NEVER had SeaMonkey
on his two Computers. I have convinced him to install SM.
I want to help him as best I can.

He has desktop is running XP and his new laptop is running Windows 8.
BTW - He still uses a Modem for reasons related to location and
his own quirks about hooking up with cables. (Fixed in his ways).

Anyway - Will SeaMonkey 2.17.1 work OK on both of his computers,
one with XP and one with Windows 8 ?

Personally I have XP on my computer and ALL is well.
I will change to Win 8 only when the beat me into submission...

I know NOTHING about Windows 8 and hope we both can figure out how to
install SM to THAT computer.

It has been Years since I installed SM to a brand new XP system.
I remember that we will have to set up his profile on a new install -
YES ?

Will Windows 8 run SeaMonkey 2.17.1 ?

Windows 8 is enigmatic to both him and me

Thank you for any help.



Seamonkey will work fine under Win8.
I would migrate the profile from XP rather than set up a new one,
preferably before even installing Seamonkey on the new machine.

What do you want to do about new mails?  Is he going to stop using SM on
the XP machine and start on Win8 or is he going to want to access them
on both?  If he wants them on both then he will need to update the
"Server Settings" for all accounts before migration.
My settings are "Leave messages on Server", "For at most nn days" and
"Until I delete them".


ok, how to migrate a profile.
- delete your Cache (to save time later)
- exit Seamonkey, Firefox and all other Mozilla programs (on the XP
machine)
- Start -> Run Program (I have a foreign-language XP so I can't remember
the exact command) and enter %appdata% there.  This will open Windows
Explorer.
- copy the mozilla directory from there to an USB stick or something
- now get onto the Win8 machine and do whatever you need to do to get
%appdata% up in Explorer there.  Win7 has the Start menu and typing
%appdata% there works fine, Win8 can't be *that* much different - can
it?  Oh.
- copy your mozilla directory to %appdata%\mozilla
- install, execute and enjoy a functioning Seamonkey.


NO - you misread my message, Mr. Williams.

He has TWO DIFFERENT Computers which have never seen SeaMonkey.
We want to put SM on BOTH of them.  We are both 70 years old.
I am about two millimeters more edicated in computers than he is.

I convinced him to migrate from Internet Explorer to SM which is
infinitely better


On ONE older computer he has Windows XP which he uses NOW.

I want to install SeaMonkey on his XP Computer (first time installation).



He ALSO has a NEW Laptop (the second computer)  which CAME WITH Windows
8 - no choice.

I want to install SeaMonkey on THAT computer ALSO.
The Laptop with Win 8 will be HELL because neither he nor I know doodily
squat about Win 8 (An enigma!).  I bought a "Windows 8 for Morons" for
HIM to study.  I won't read it until someone MAKES me use Win 8 by
beating me about the head & shoulders - for a long time.

I wasn't sure if this ver of SM would work under Windows 8 and wanted to
ask you experts before I make a fool of myself.
(He thinks I am some computer expurt ! lol!)




Mea Culpa.

Seamonkey is Browser + Mail-Client + Composer ( ;-) )

He can import Bookmarks and stuff like that (a technical term) from IE.

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Importing_and_exporting_your_mail shows you 
how to import mail.


Do all that on the XP machine, then you can look at copying the profile 
to the Win8 monstrosity.


If you don't want to use Seamonkey for mail, I'd give consideration to 
using Firefox.  Me?  Every time Firefox changes some stupid setting I 
have to google things and work out which about:config setting I need to 
toggle to change it back.  Maybe Firefox is a bad idea after all.

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