Re: No NNTP messages have been gatewayed to this list since 22/05/2013

[Philip Chee]

On 11/07/2013 07:44, WaltS wrote:
> On 07/06/2013 01:47 PM, Philip Taylor wrote:
>> No NNTP messages have been gatewayed to this list since 22/05/2013 19:13
>> Philip Taylor
>>
> 
> 
> Somebody at Mozilla finally noticed. Resolved-Fixed. Downloading 3529 
> messages to my Inbox is now complete.
> 
> This bug comment has the list of 74 newsgroups that weren't getting 
> mirrored to the mailing lists.
> 
> 

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=891906#c9

"Giganews is claiming there are 2.15 billion new messages in that
newsgroup, and mailman was running out of memory trying to create a data
structure to grab the headers for that many messages, causing it to
crash, and failing to sync any newsgroups that came after it in the run
order of the news gateway script."

Phil

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Bookmark Folders Moving

[David E. Ross]

Since installing SM 2.19, I have seen two instances of bookmark folders
being moved.

I have a folder named "ISPs" that contains two subfolders and a total of
11 bookmarks.  It moved to after the folder that had previously followed
it.

I have a folder named "specific bills".  This is a subfolder of
"California", which in turn is a subfolder of "Gov't, Politics, & the
Law".  "specific bills" was moved into the subfolder just before
"California".

Has anyone else seen this?  Is there a bug report on this?

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snooping into your E-mail?  Use PGP.
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re: Publishing

[nikaoimani]

I am using seamonkey to publish my webpage to my site and it's taking over 
thirty minutes is that normal? 
EPMcKnight

 
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WWW.EPMCKNIGHT.WIX.COM/WORDSNACTION,  
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Re: Web pages display with out format

[Test]

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote, On 6/20/2013 10:11 AM:



Do the pages show images?  Some appear to display all images perfectly -
Facebook and MSNBC seem fine.  Others pages display some pictures but
not others do not appear - Foxnews does this.  And Linked-In shows up as
only text.


I think it is time for you to give some specific links where this occurs,
and to put up a screenshot or two of exactly what you see. Also specify if
you have any ad-blocking extensions installed. Are third-party servers
blocked? Is JavaScript disabled?
Screen shots of http://www.foxnews.com/ main page in SeaMonkey and IE 
attached.


Add on manger indicates there is an issue with Java and it is disabled. 
 (screen shot attached)


I do not see an ad blocker extension.





Disabled CSS?  If I did that I have no idea how I did it.  Can you tell
me how to re-enable it?


I already suggested that the Web Developer Toolbar is one way that can
happen. What extensions do you have installed?




I appear to have two toolbars: Navigation and toolbars - both are on.  I 
do not see a Web Developer tool bar.



Extensions listed are ChatZilla 0.9.89, DOM Inspector 2.0.13pre and 
JavaScript Debugger0.9.89


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Re: No NNTP messages have been gatewayed to this list since 22/05/2013

[WaltS]

On 07/06/2013 01:47 PM, Philip Taylor wrote:

No NNTP messages have been gatewayed to this list since 22/05/2013 19:13
Philip Taylor




Somebody at Mozilla finally noticed. Resolved-Fixed. Downloading 3529 
messages to my Inbox is now complete.


This bug comment has the list of 74 newsgroups that weren't getting 
mirrored to the mailing lists.




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Private Browsing key

[Neil]

When I added Private Browsing to SeaMonkey I copied the key Firefox 
uses, which is Ctrl+Shift+P.


Unfortunately Thunderbird uses that key for Check Spelling, which means 
that it no longer works for that purpose in SeaMonkey, nor can we change 
that key.


This means that we have to change or remove the key for Private Browsing.

Anyone got any preference?

A Addons Manager
D Quick Bookmark / Get Messages
G Find Previous
I DOM Inspector
J Error Console
K Remove Link
L Open Web Location
N New Composer Page
O Paste As Quotation
P Check Spelling
R Reply to All / Remove Named Anchors
S Search the Web / Search Messages / Publish
T Undo Close Tab
V Paste Without Formatting
W Close Window
Y Undo Close Window / Remove Text Styles

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Re: Loss of ownership after 2.19 upgrade

[Robert Kaiser]

David Wilkinson schrieb:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

David Wilkinson schrieb:

After upgrading to version 2.19 on a Windows 7 x64 system, my profile
was not working properly. I tracked this down to the fact that I had
lost ownership (and hence permissions) of prefs.js (and also
sessionstore.json, and the safebrowsing folder).


That's interesting to hear. Who was ownership turned to?


I think that when I looked in Advanced Security Settings, it said the
owner could not be displayed. But when I went to edit the owner, it was
displayed as MachineName\Administrators.



That's a group. I wonder if a group can be the owner in Windows...

Robert Kaiser
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Restore Mail & Newsgroups and Address Book

[jbaldwin1]

I updated (or so I thought) and have lost all my mail and address book entries.

I want to try and restore both of those from my backups.  

Who, when, where, how, and what should I be looking for?
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Re: OddBall Problem

[Daniel]

jerr...@comcast.net wrote:

On Tuesday, July 9, 2013 9:16:57 AM UTC-6, jer...@comcast.net wrote:

My mouse wheel now only works with cursor at the top of the screen.  Cursor 
goes dead if at the bottom of screen.  What could cause this?  (same with two 
different mouses).

JR


I guess I need to uninstall SM, anyone know how to save my bookmarks?  TIA
JR


As I recall, JR, when you un-install SM, it leaves your profile alone 
unless *you* specifically tell SM to remove the profile.


If you have a look at Edit->Mail & Newsgroup Account settings and select 
"Server Settings" for your e-mail account, at the bottom of that screen 
it shows "Local directory" location. This should give you an indication 
of where your profile is (maybe a couple of levels above the 'Local 
directory" location).


(Similarly for News accounts, their file locations are (I think) shown 
in the "Server Settings" of those news accounts.)


In a normal installation, SM does not put the Profile in the same 
location as the program is installed, *however* if you did a "custom" 
installation, *you* may have set SM up with the profile underneath the 
program, so if you then delete the program, you will also be deleting 
the profile!


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Firefox/21.0 SeaMonkey/2.18 Build identifier: 20130502201647

or

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:22.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/22.0 SeaMonkey/2.19 Build identifier: 20130625002157

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Re: Check Plugins?...

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Rufus wrote:


Ok, one more odd behavior that just started today.  For some reason at
launch SM 2.13.2 Mac (running under OS 10.6.8) is now opening my home
page and then opening a second tab with a "check plugins" page upon
launch.  And it's not doing it for every session - seems random.

Is there a way I can fat-finger this on the keyboard during launch?  I
can't seem to tie it to anything.


Could you have done this?

Edit | Browser:
Display on [Browser Startup]
(•) Restore Previous Session

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Re: OddBall Problem

[Paul]

jerr...@comcast.net wrote:

On Tuesday, July 9, 2013 9:16:57 AM UTC-6, jer...@comcast.net wrote:

My mouse wheel now only works with cursor at the top of the screen.
Cursor goes dead if at the bottom of screen.  What could cause
this?  (same with two different mouses).

JR


Same symptom with MS mouse and Logitech mouse; wheel goes dead at
bottom of screen. Hmmm. JR


Does it do that with other programs?
IE, Word, Excel, games ?
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Re: A new PDF problem...in seamonkey

[uttam . hathi]

On Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:57:57 PM UTC+5:30, uttam...@gmail.com wrote:
> i guess there is no solution
> 
> i use my trusted acrobat 7 professional and have felt no need to buy the 
> newer version it keeps popping ( i seriously feel that this is a major flaw 
> in sofware industry till someone comes up with no updates required thus 
> perfect product, updates are to rectify flaws)
> 
> now with sea monkey this will not be useable, just as i junked win7 for xp to 
> use my trusted softwares , i guess i will soon junk seamonkey if it does not 
> rectify, symbiotic nature is nice if it subserve ur users else people will 
> migrate.
> 
> wonder if its time to RIP for seamonkey.
> 
> alteast chrome is still not an issue, ie 7 is as it just crashes.
> 
> soon it will be there goes my mozilla!!
> 
> i have not found a soln yet. scavanged the web but no recourse.
Alas the plugin is a acrobat 11 reader

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Re: OddBall Problem

[WaltS]

On 07/09/2013 11:16 AM, jerr...@comcast.net wrote:

My mouse wheel now only works with cursor at the top of the screen.  Cursor 
goes dead if at the bottom of screen.  What could cause this?  (same with two 
different mouses).
JR




 Please identify your operating system, and version of SeaMonkey.

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Re: Changing Font Size in Folder and Message List Panes

[sean nathan]

Ken Whiton wrote:

*-* On Mon, 01 Jul 2013, at 05:23:00 -0500,
*-* In Article <1zwdncqomeuxxuzmnz2dnuvz_hgdn...@mozilla.org>,
*-* Richard Owlett wrote
*-* About Re: Changing Font Size in Folder and Message List Panes


hdt...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, February 2, 2011 8:03:59 AM UTC-7, Cal Tinson wrote:

On 2/2/2011 8:41 AM eastern, JJG wrote:

I need to increase the font size a couple of notches in my Folder
and Message List Panes so these tired old eyes can see them more
easily.



How do I go about doing this? Using Tools/Options/Display doesn't
do it.  That only seems to change the font in the message bodies.



Thank you



Here's Ken Whiton's previous post on this:



Yes, using appropriate entries in a userChrome.css file, as
Ron K. has already posted.  The file doesn't exist by default, so
you'll have to create it if you haven't previously done so.  Note
that the message list window is correctly identified as the Thread
Pane.



1. Leave TB open for the time being, so you can copy and
   paste directly from this post into the userChrome.css
   file.



2. Navigate to your Thunderbird profile.  If you don't know
   where that is, see:
   http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_Thunderbird



3. Within the profile folder, open (or create if it doesn't
   exist) the chrome folder.



4. Within the chrome folder, open (or create if it doesn't
   exist) the userChrome.css file, using your preferred
   text editor.



5. Add/enter the following text into the file:



/* Do not remove the @namespace line -- it's required for correct
functioning */
/* set default namespace to XUL */
@namespace
url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul";);



/* Set Font Size In Folder Pane */



#folderTree >treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text {
 font-size: 16pt !important; }



/* Set Font Size In Thread Pane */



#threadTree >treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text {
 font-size: 16pt !important; }



6. Close TBird.



7. Save the userChrome.css file, making sure that your
   editor doesn't add an additional .txt (or any other)
   extension to the name.  After saving, leave the
   editor/file open.



8. Open TBird, and open a mail folder or newsgroup.  If the
   font sizes are satisfactory, close the editor/file that
   you left open at the end of step 7.  If not, repeat
   steps 5 through 8, trying different font sizes, until
   you're satisfied with the results.



@kenwhiton and @CalTinson:



THANKS!  Just noting that in TBird 17, this still works.  Solved a
nuisance I'd given up hope on.



Does this also apply to mail/news in SeaMonkey [User agent:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0
SeaMonkey/2.17.1]?


  I've never used SeaMonkey, so I don't know.  Searching on line, I
find that SeaMonkey can use the userChrome.css (and userContent.css)
file(s), but I don't know if element identifiers would be the same.
Your best bet would be to ask in the mozilla.support.seamonkey
newsgroup.  To give you a headstart on that I'm cross-posting this and
setting the follow-up to mozilla.support.seamonkey.

 Ken Whiton



while it works on the fonts for the accounts name pane and the thread 
pane... it would appear to need a third entry for the message view 
pane... the difference between 10, 11 and 12pt fonts in that panel need 
finer control...




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2.19 Font Size

[Larry S.]

First step done with o.k. results--made the recommended changes in 
about:config, and bookmarks and Web sites are back to "normal" (i.e. 
2.17.1) size, but--now the drop-downs, mail/news address lines, and tool 
bars are quite small. How do I get them all to change, not just Web sites?


All help gratefully appreciated.

Larry
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Re: SeaMonkey v2.17.1's crash reports and their corrupted dumps...

[Ant]

On 6/30/2013 3:30 PM PT, Noob42 typed:


Also, once in a while SeaMonkey will be super slow or frozen in its
processs with one of my CPU cores going at max(imum) usage. It is
probably I have too many complex and various tabs (e.g., 150+) going
at once. :)


The system might be thrashing (swapping lots of pages out to disk)
although with 3GB of RAM, that shouldn't happen, unless you have
other processes gobbling up RAM.


SM is the biggest hogger of all. :(



150 tabs is probably (??) pushing the limits of your 32-bit
operating system. Or there's a memory leak in Seamonkey or
in one of the add-ons/plug-ins you're using.


FYI on addons/plugins:
Last updated: Sun Jun 30 2013 16:34:59 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1


Extensions (enabled: 9)
* Adblock Plus 2.2.4 (http://adblockplus.org/en/)
* British English Dictionary 1.19.1 
(https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/british-english-dictionary/?src=api)
* ColorfulTabs 18.1 
(http://www.binaryturf.com/free-software/colorfultabs-for-firefox/)

* DOM Inspector 2.0.14 (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/inspector/)
* English (Australian) Dictionary 2.1.2 
(http://justcameron.com/incoming/en-au-dictionary/)

* Flashblock 1.3.20 (http://flashblock.mozdev.org/)
* IE View 1.5.6 (http://ieview.roub.net/)
* PrefBar 6.2.0 (http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/)
* WOT 20120910 (http://www.mywot.com/)

about:plugins:
Enabled plugins
Find more information about browser plugins at mozilla.org.
Find updates for installed plugins at mozilla.com/plugincheck.
Help for installing plugins is available from plugindoc.mozdev.org.
Shockwave Flash

File: NPSWF32_11_7_700_224.dll
Version: 11.7.700.224
Shockwave Flash 11.7 r700

MIME Type   Description Suffixes
application/x-shockwave-flash   Adobe Flash movie   swf
application/futuresplashFutureSplash movie  spl




(One way to test that would be to configure SM to restore your
session at start, quit SM, then reopen SM and see if it's still
using as much RAM.)


Yeah, it goes down by a few hundred MB but doesn't last long. For an 
example, my SM just crashed again. Restarted it with all restored 166 
tabs is using about ~1.4 GB compared to ~1.6 of RAM.




I typically have 40-80 tabs open (across 10-15 windows) and
I thought I was pushing it...


Heh, we're both crazy!



Uh, where did my 512 MB of RAM, from 3 GB, go then? I was told Video RAM
takes some. I have an old ATI Radeon 4870 video card (512 MB; PCIe).


I have the same setup, WinXP + 3GB RAM + 512MB GPU and
Process Explorer "sees" all my RAM:

   Physical Memory (K) : 3 145 200


Where do you see that in PE? I am looking through Windows' Help About 
like in Notepad and see "2,612,332 KB".




If you had 4 GB of RAM, then the GPU's RAM might "hide" some
of it, because it needs to be mapped below the 4GB mark.


Maybe. I messed up earlier. I actually 6 GB of RAM. I got confused with 
my Debian/Linux oldstable box with its 3 GB of RAM. Sorry. Either way, 
Windows XP only sees 2.5 GB of RAM.




http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa366778%28v=vs.85%29.aspx


Hmm, a bit technical and not sure what to do with that.


It does look very complex :-(
Here's more on the subject:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/bb613473%28v=vs.85%29.aspx

I'm afraid the "easiest" thing to do is to use a 64-bit OS
and a 64-bit Seamonkey, but your OS is only 32-bit.

If you upgrade to Win7 (the 64-bit version) you might try
http://kb.mozillazine.org/64_bit_builds

Hold on! They're stuck on SM 2.0
http://wiki.mozilla-x86-64.com/SeaMonkey:Download

The one option you have left is trying Seamonkey from Linux!


Yeah. I don't use SM much on my 64-bit Debian oldstable box. My 64-bit 
Windows 7 office machines (3 and 8 GB of RAM), with 32-bit SM, is way 
more stable but then I don't have that many tabs (mostly Reddit) opened 
at once like I do at home. :O

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Re: Where is the Sea Monkey mail file located?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

RGrannus wrote:


Where is the SeaMonkey mail file located? I want to create a
shortcut on my desktop and Start menu but can't find the mail folder
anywhere under SeaMonkey. If it was deleted somehow, is there any
way of retrieving it or do I have to reinstall SeaMonkey?


That's not how to do what I think you want to do.

Assuming you want a shortcut that will launch SeaMonkey Mail, the 
easiest way is to go to your Start menu, navigate to the SeaMonkey 
folder, and within that you'll see several shortcuts. One is named 
"SeaMonkey Mail." Right-click it and choose "Copy," then go to the 
desktop and paste.


If you right-click the new desktop icon and choose Properties, you'll 
see something like this for the target:


"C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe" -mail

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Adblock Plus won't install

[RGrannus]

Sorry to bother you again, but Adblock Plus won't install. It stops and 
just sits there when I press the "run" button. I can and did save it to 
my files, but it doesn't seem to be an executable file. Am I doing 
something wrong or should I use one of the other downloads on that page?


On 07/06/2013 02:21 PM, RGrannus wrote:
> Advertisement windows keep popping up in every browser and application
> I use. How can I get rid of them? If they're on the computer they must
> be in a folder somewhere or some folder that triggers them. Is there
> any way to trace a window to the folder that triggered it? Better yet
> would be a clean-up program that deleted them. The ones I have now are:
>
> Sarbash Labs. Appears in the middle of the screen, types out an
> advertising message overseveral seconds and has a button that you have
> to click to make it go away.
> Improve Speed PC
> Optimizer Pro
> A window that appears and persists in the lower right corner without a
> name saying "Reminder. Your Computer is not backed up. Backup your
> files online today. Free computer backup Available." It has a "Backup
> Now" button.
>


This is not a support forum, but a forum for SeaMonkey developrs. You 
may get answers, as you have with your other posts.


The SeaMonkey support forum is mozilla.support.seamonkey, and for 
general topics like getting advertisements in your other applications 
mozilla.general. I would suggest subscribing to them.


Install the Adblock Plus extension to stop advertisements in your browser.



Check Edit > Preferences > Privacy & Security, and enable Block reported 
attack sites, and Block reported web forgeries.


Also enable, Block unrequested popup windows, under Privacy & Security > 
Popup Windows




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Re: Seamonkey 2.19

[Cruz, Jaime]

Mark Berger wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Mark Berger wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Philip Taylor wrote:

Now reverted to 2.17.1.  2.19 cannot be used in its present state.
Philip Taylor


What specifically is wrong with 2.19, besides the size problem you
mentioned before?
bj


Font size problem is enough to stop using it.

Are you saying you can NOT change the font size or display resolution to
make it satisfactory for your use?
bj


Yes.  Using Modern theme.


Using the modern theme at the office... 32-bit WinXP.  Didn't see any 
change at all after the update from 2.17.1.



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failure code: 0x80004002 account-mgr

[seamon2]

Hi,

We are using seamonkey with lightning and sogo-groupware-addons
(http://www.sogo.nu/english/downloads/frontends.html). These are made
for TB17ESR but with little customization they worked fine here in
Seamonkey 2.14.1

Using SM 2.17.1 or 2.19 the following error appears (with functionality
loss in calendar-actions).

Error: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80004002
(NS_NOINTERFACE) [nsISupports.QueryInterface]"  nsresult: "0x80004002
(NS_NOINTERFACE)"  location: "JS frame ::
file:///C:/Programme/SeaMonkey/extensions/sogo-connec...@inverse.ca/components/CalDAVACLManager.js
:: cDACLM__initAccountMgr :: line 1021"  data: no]
Quelldatei:
file:///C:/Programme/SeaMonkey/extensions/sogo-connec...@inverse.ca/components/CalDAVACLManager.js


Line 1016-1021 :

_initAccountMgr: function cDACLM__initAccountMgr() {
this.accountMgr =
Components.classes["@mozilla.org/messenger/account-manager;1"]

.getService(Components.interfaces.nsIMsgAccountManager);
let defaultAccount = this.accountMgr.defaultAccount;

let identities =
this.accountMgr.allIdentities.QueryInterface(Components.interfaces.nsICollection);


Any hints how to correct this?
Thanks in advance,
Gerd

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2.19 Fonts larger

[Mark Berger]

MS Windows XP Pro SP3
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/22.0 
SeaMonkey/2.19


All the fonts in the browser and mail windows are suddenly a lot larger. 
 The only change has been to install SM 2.19.


Anybody else notice this?

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Re: Seamonkey 2.19

[chicagofan]

Philip Taylor wrote:

Now reverted to 2.17.1.  2.19 cannot be used in its present state.
Philip Taylor


What specifically is wrong with 2.19, besides the size problem you 
mentioned before?

bj
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SeaMonkey 2.19 on MacIntosh love it.

[Paul Bergsagel]

I'm impressed how much faster SeaMonkey 2.19 is than 2.17 (the previous 
version I used).


I love 2.19 for its speed. No problems so far.

Thanks developers.
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Re: How reuse an old e-mails as a brand new e-mail?

[Daniel]

Ant wrote:

Hello.

I notice when replying to my old e-mail with new title and (B)CC
addresses and then sending, SM v2.1x thinks it is part of the same
thread which is not what I want. I also tried using my old e-mail as a
new e-mail template and sending, but got the same results.

How can I avoid having to start from scratch for new e-mails?

Thank you in advance. :)


Ant, each week I have to send an updated e-mail to a group of people. If 
I alter the subject, the new posts appear separate to the original.


If you want to keep the same subject, try saving the e-mail as a draft 
message and then each week update the draft.


--
Daniel

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:21.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/21.0 SeaMonkey/2.18 Build identifier: 20130502201647

or

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:22.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/22.0 SeaMonkey/2.19 Build identifier: 20130625002157

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Re: Changing Font Size in Folder and Message List Panes

[Ken Whiton]

*-* On Mon, 01 Jul 2013, at 05:23:00 -0500,
*-* In Article <1zwdncqomeuxxuzmnz2dnuvz_hgdn...@mozilla.org>,
*-* Richard Owlett wrote
*-* About Re: Changing Font Size in Folder and Message List Panes

> hdt...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Wednesday, February 2, 2011 8:03:59 AM UTC-7, Cal Tinson wrote:
>>> On 2/2/2011 8:41 AM eastern, JJG wrote:
 I need to increase the font size a couple of notches in my Folder
 and Message List Panes so these tired old eyes can see them more
 easily.

 How do I go about doing this? Using Tools/Options/Display doesn't
 do it.  That only seems to change the font in the message bodies.

 Thank you

>>> Here's Ken Whiton's previous post on this:

>>>Yes, using appropriate entries in a userChrome.css file, as
>>> Ron K. has already posted.  The file doesn't exist by default, so
>>> you'll have to create it if you haven't previously done so.  Note
>>> that the message list window is correctly identified as the Thread
>>> Pane.

>>>1. Leave TB open for the time being, so you can copy and
>>>   paste directly from this post into the userChrome.css
>>>   file.

>>>2. Navigate to your Thunderbird profile.  If you don't know
>>>   where that is, see:
>>>   http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_Thunderbird

>>>3. Within the profile folder, open (or create if it doesn't
>>>   exist) the chrome folder.

>>>4. Within the chrome folder, open (or create if it doesn't
>>>   exist) the userChrome.css file, using your preferred
>>>   text editor.

>>>5. Add/enter the following text into the file:

>>> /* Do not remove the @namespace line -- it's required for correct
>>> functioning */
>>> /* set default namespace to XUL */
>>> @namespace
>>> url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul";);

>>> /* Set Font Size In Folder Pane */

>>> #folderTree >treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text {
>>> font-size: 16pt !important; }

>>> /* Set Font Size In Thread Pane */

>>> #threadTree >treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text {
>>> font-size: 16pt !important; }

>>>6. Close TBird.

>>>7. Save the userChrome.css file, making sure that your
>>>   editor doesn't add an additional .txt (or any other)
>>>   extension to the name.  After saving, leave the
>>>   editor/file open.

>>>8. Open TBird, and open a mail folder or newsgroup.  If the
>>>   font sizes are satisfactory, close the editor/file that
>>>   you left open at the end of step 7.  If not, repeat
>>>   steps 5 through 8, trying different font sizes, until
>>>   you're satisfied with the results.

>> @kenwhiton and @CalTinson:

>> THANKS!  Just noting that in TBird 17, this still works.  Solved a
>> nuisance I'd given up hope on.

> Does this also apply to mail/news in SeaMonkey [User agent:
> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0
> SeaMonkey/2.17.1]?

 I've never used SeaMonkey, so I don't know.  Searching on line, I
find that SeaMonkey can use the userChrome.css (and userContent.css)
file(s), but I don't know if element identifiers would be the same.
Your best bet would be to ask in the mozilla.support.seamonkey
newsgroup.  To give you a headstart on that I'm cross-posting this and
setting the follow-up to mozilla.support.seamonkey.

Ken Whiton
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Re: A new PDF problem...in seamonkey

[David E. Ross]

On 7/10/2013 1:29 AM, uttam.ha...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:57:57 PM UTC+5:30, uttam...@gmail.com wrote:
>> i guess there is no solution
>>
>> i use my trusted acrobat 7 professional and have felt no need to buy the 
>> newer version it keeps popping ( i seriously feel that this is a major flaw 
>> in sofware industry till someone comes up with no updates required thus 
>> perfect product, updates are to rectify flaws)
>>
>> now with sea monkey this will not be useable, just as i junked win7 for xp 
>> to use my trusted softwares , i guess i will soon junk seamonkey if it does 
>> not rectify, symbiotic nature is nice if it subserve ur users else people 
>> will migrate.
>>
>> wonder if its time to RIP for seamonkey.
>>
>> alteast chrome is still not an issue, ie 7 is as it just crashes.
>>
>> soon it will be there goes my mozilla!!
>>
>> i have not found a soln yet. scavanged the web but no recourse.
> Alas the plugin is a acrobat 11 reader
> 

Try the following (assuming that you retained the installer for Adobe
Acrobat):

1.  Uninstall both Adobe Acrobat (the writer) and Adobe Reader.

2.  Install Adobe Acrobat.

3.  Install Adobe Reader.

In the past, I found that the sequence in which the writer and reader
are installed makes a big difference.

-- 
David E. Ross


Concerned about someone (e.g., the government)
snooping into your E-mail?  Use PGP.
See my 
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Re: Seamonkey 2.19

[Janine Starykowicz]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Janine Starykowicz wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 07/07/2013 00:04:

Ray_Net wrote:


Janine Starykowicz wrote, On 06/07/2013 18:13:


When I open it in Notepad and try to save it, I get a popup saying
"Access is denied."


Change mms.cfg to mms.cfg-original
Copy mms.cfg-original to mms.txt
Edit and save mms.txt
Change mms.txt to mms.cfg


Works fine if the file is not locked/in use. That's an OS feature
that will also prevent renaming. Of course, if the file isn't locked,
you don't have to go through all this
rigmarole. Just open, edit, save, and you're done.


That was my only way to do it - the OS *accept* the changes .. OS
*never accept* that i save mms.cfg !


It won't let me save anything in the Flash folder, keeps sending mms.txt
to Documents. Keeps telling me to talk to admin, but I am admin. I've
tried unchecking read only on the Flash folder, but there is a file that
can't be reset and that stops it. Can't see any way to avoid that file,
seems it is all or nothing. The file mms.cfg does not have individual
read only, just inherits from the folder.

OK, tried to copy the file into the Flash folder and it worked! Got the
"you need to be admin" prompt, hit continue and it did. Next problem is
renaming it, it turns into mms.cfg.txt

Tried opening in HTM-Kit and re-saving, same problem: mms.cfg.txt. I can
force Notepad++ to try to save it as mms.cfg, but get the no permission
in this folder error.


You might try renaming the copy in the Documents folder first, then moving the 
properly named file to the Flash folder. When it protests that the file already 
exists, tell it to go
ahead and overwrite.



It worked! SeaMonkey got real wonky though so I rebooted. Have not seen the 
flipping since. Thanks!

Now if I could just get rid of these new js errors.

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Re: Search from location bar (Search $ENGINE for $searchTerms) does not work for Startpage

[Noob42]

sn...@hush.com wrote:
> 
 I mostly search from the URL bar:
>>
 I type the search terms, e.g. "foo bar", on the URL bar,
>>
 then hit the UP arrow key, and Seamonkey offers to
>>

>>
   Search Google for "foo bar"
> 
> 
> Did you try
> 
> Edit > Preferences > Internet Search > Manage Search Engines
> 
> ?

Yes, that's the first thing I tried.

The new search engine loads OK, I can then select it as my
"default search engine". It shows up when I hit the up arrow
when I'm typing in the URL bar, but it doesn't take me to
the correct search page (my search terms are lost).

Does anyone here search with ixquick or startpage by making
either their default search engine?

Regards.

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Re: OddBall Problem

[Jerrich]

On Tuesday, July 9, 2013 9:16:57 AM UTC-6, jer...@comcast.net wrote:
> My mouse wheel now only works with cursor at the top of the screen.  Cursor 
> goes dead if at the bottom of screen.  What could cause this?  (same with two 
> different mouses).
> 
> JR

It's Win7, SM 2.19.  Any idears?
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Default composing format in Seamonkey Composer

[Ilya]

Hello, guys.

Is there way to set the default composing format in Composer (i.e. the 
option under the Options -> Format submenu) to anything other than 
"Auto-Detect"?

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Re: SM 2.19 Email Line Spacing

[BIll Spikowski]

Brooke Clarke wrote:
> Hi:
> 
> The spacing between each major folder at the left and between each subject on 
> the right is at 1.5 or 2 lines whereas in 
> SM 2.15 it was single spaced.
> How to get back to single spacing?


I've been wondering the same thing!


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Re: 2.19 is here

[sean nathan]

Jens Hatlak wrote:

sean nathan wrote:

2. The release notes for 2.18 (it would have been nice to see them
included, or at least linked, in the 2.19 release notes -- after all,
there was no general release with that particular set of changes...)


They are linked: "relative to _SeaMonkey 2.18_" (both from the main page
and Changes page).


mentions an experimental Private Browsing mode. How do I find it?


Under File/New, the context menu for links, and about:privatebrowsing.


3. Since I'm mentioning the release notes, there's some wording there
that should have been fixed a long time ago. Where it is written

"Data loss warning: If you use a profile with this or any later version
and then try to go back to SeaMonkey 2.0,"...

It should really be written:

"Data loss warning: If you use a profile with any version later than 2.1
and then try to go back to SeaMonkey 2.0,"...


Hmm, not a grave issue, but if you think it should have been fixed long
ago you should have mentioned it long ago, no? ;-)

Greetings,

Jens


i must have been drunk or high on something which made me fail to 
proofread and clarify my prior post...


i meant to say i had 2.19 picked up and ran along just fine where my 
prior version left off... i lost no data, and i did NOT have to 
re-register anything...


sean


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Re: Default composing format in Seamonkey Composer

[Ilya]

(Under "Seamonkey Composer" I of course meant the Mail and News Editor, 
not the HTML editor. Sorry for the poor wording).

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Re: Seamonkey 2.19

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Janine Starykowicz wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 07/07/2013 00:04:

Ray_Net wrote:


Janine Starykowicz wrote, On 06/07/2013 18:13:


When I open it in Notepad and try to save it, I get a popup saying
"Access is denied."


Change mms.cfg to mms.cfg-original
Copy mms.cfg-original to mms.txt
Edit and save mms.txt
Change mms.txt to mms.cfg


Works fine if the file is not locked/in use. That's an OS feature
that will also prevent renaming. Of course, if the file isn't locked,
you don't have to go through all this
rigmarole. Just open, edit, save, and you're done.


That was my only way to do it - the OS *accept* the changes .. OS
*never accept* that i save mms.cfg !


It won't let me save anything in the Flash folder, keeps sending mms.txt
to Documents. Keeps telling me to talk to admin, but I am admin. I've
tried unchecking read only on the Flash folder, but there is a file that
can't be reset and that stops it. Can't see any way to avoid that file,
seems it is all or nothing. The file mms.cfg does not have individual
read only, just inherits from the folder.

OK, tried to copy the file into the Flash folder and it worked! Got the
"you need to be admin" prompt, hit continue and it did. Next problem is
renaming it, it turns into mms.cfg.txt

Tried opening in HTM-Kit and re-saving, same problem: mms.cfg.txt. I can
force Notepad++ to try to save it as mms.cfg, but get the no permission
in this folder error.


You might try renaming the copy in the Documents folder first, then 
moving the properly named file to the Flash folder. When it protests 
that the file already exists, tell it to go ahead and overwrite.


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Re: OddBall Problem

[Jerrich]

On Tuesday, July 9, 2013 9:16:57 AM UTC-6, jer...@comcast.net wrote:
> My mouse wheel now only works with cursor at the top of the screen.  Cursor 
> goes dead if at the bottom of screen.  What could cause this?  (same with two 
> different mouses).
> 
> JR

Only with Sea Monkey.  Weird.
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Re: OddBall Problem

[Jerrich]

On Tuesday, July 9, 2013 9:16:57 AM UTC-6, jer...@comcast.net wrote:
> My mouse wheel now only works with cursor at the top of the screen.  Cursor 
> goes dead if at the bottom of screen.  What could cause this?  (same with two 
> different mouses).
> 
> JR

I guess I need to uninstall SM, anyone know how to save my bookmarks?  TIA
JR
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Re: Bookmarks missing in 2.19?

[A Williams]

Desiree wrote:

I upgraded to 2.19 a couple of days ago.  All bookmarks are missing!
History is intact though.  Is this a known problem on 2.19?  I've been
using SM for years (and Mozilla Suite before it) and I don't recall ever
losing all bookmarks when upgrading.  This is on Win 8 Pro.


Two questions:
- do you have Administrator rights on that computer?  I'm looking at the 
next post below yours.
- How do the backups look?  Specifically the automatic ones in the 
"bookmarkbackups" subdirectory of the profile.  Look for the latest 
undeleted one and then Bookmarks -> Manage Bookmarks -> Tools -> Restore


I had a similar problem for a while at work with Firefox.  There was 
something wrong with the setup there and deleted files were coming back 
from the crypt every night.  There is a Firefox addon which validates 
the profile and it was telling me every day that the profile was 
corrupt.  I'd fix but next day it was screwed again.
My bookmarks were being nuked on a regular basis, I can't remember if it 
was every night or every time I rebooted.  For some reason Seamonkey was 
much more robust.


Then they fixed the problem and Firefox was useable again.

The only point of that sordid little tale was that a screwed up profile 
can have horrible side-effects.

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Re: OddBall Problem

[WaltS]

On 07/09/2013 11:31 AM, jerr...@comcast.net wrote:

On Tuesday, July 9, 2013 9:16:57 AM UTC-6, jer...@comcast.net wrote:

My mouse wheel now only works with cursor at the top of the screen.  Cursor 
goes dead if at the bottom of screen.  What could cause this?  (same with two 
different mouses).

JR


It's Win7, SM 2.19.  Any idears?




Update mouse driver. Check mouse settings.

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Re: OddBall Problem

[Jerrich]

On Tuesday, July 9, 2013 9:16:57 AM UTC-6, jer...@comcast.net wrote:
> My mouse wheel now only works with cursor at the top of the screen.  Cursor 
> goes dead if at the bottom of screen.  What could cause this?  (same with two 
> different mouses).
> 
> JR

Yes, same pane. at a loss here.
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Reestablish a deleted save password URL

[Roger Fink]

Recently, I accidentally deleted a "save password" URL from SeaMonkey (I 
confused it with a similar URL I wanted to get rid of). Now there seems 
to be no easy way to reestablish it - when I go to the site I always 
have to log in manually because SM offers me no option to save it.


The site is compatible with the "save password routine", since it used 
to work OK in SM and it also currently works OK in Firefox.


I back up my SM profile weekly, so if there is a file, or files, that 
contains the correct information I could substitute it for the current 
one if it will give me the desired result.


Win7, SM 2.15.2
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Check Plugins?...

[Rufus]

Ok, one more odd behavior that just started today.  For some reason at 
launch SM 2.13.2 Mac (running under OS 10.6.8) is now opening my home 
page and then opening a second tab with a "check plugins" page upon 
launch.  And it's not doing it for every session - seems random.


Is there a way I can fat-finger this on the keyboard during launch?  I 
can't seem to tie it to anything.


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Re: iceape files no more accessible?

[karlchen9]

Thanks for the warm welcome and the useful hints I received.
I shall be glad to recommend this software and its support crowd to all and 
sundry and especially to my mother in law.


Solved it myself, then. Will search for something better though, as soon as I 
can find the time.
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Re: Changing Font Size in Folder and Message List Panes

[sean nathan]

Ken Whiton wrote:

*-* On Mon, 01 Jul 2013, at 05:23:00 -0500,
*-* In Article <1zwdncqomeuxxuzmnz2dnuvz_hgdn...@mozilla.org>,
*-* Richard Owlett wrote
*-* About Re: Changing Font Size in Folder and Message List Panes


hdt...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, February 2, 2011 8:03:59 AM UTC-7, Cal Tinson wrote:

On 2/2/2011 8:41 AM eastern, JJG wrote:

I need to increase the font size a couple of notches in my Folder
and Message List Panes so these tired old eyes can see them more
easily.



How do I go about doing this? Using Tools/Options/Display doesn't
do it.  That only seems to change the font in the message bodies.



Thank you



Here's Ken Whiton's previous post on this:



Yes, using appropriate entries in a userChrome.css file, as
Ron K. has already posted.  The file doesn't exist by default, so
you'll have to create it if you haven't previously done so.  Note
that the message list window is correctly identified as the Thread
Pane.



1. Leave TB open for the time being, so you can copy and
   paste directly from this post into the userChrome.css
   file.



2. Navigate to your Thunderbird profile.  If you don't know
   where that is, see:
   http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_Thunderbird



3. Within the profile folder, open (or create if it doesn't
   exist) the chrome folder.



4. Within the chrome folder, open (or create if it doesn't
   exist) the userChrome.css file, using your preferred
   text editor.



5. Add/enter the following text into the file:



/* Do not remove the @namespace line -- it's required for correct
functioning */
/* set default namespace to XUL */
@namespace
url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul";);



/* Set Font Size In Folder Pane */



#folderTree >treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text {
 font-size: 16pt !important; }



/* Set Font Size In Thread Pane */



#threadTree >treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text {
 font-size: 16pt !important; }



6. Close TBird.



7. Save the userChrome.css file, making sure that your
   editor doesn't add an additional .txt (or any other)
   extension to the name.  After saving, leave the
   editor/file open.



8. Open TBird, and open a mail folder or newsgroup.  If the
   font sizes are satisfactory, close the editor/file that
   you left open at the end of step 7.  If not, repeat
   steps 5 through 8, trying different font sizes, until
   you're satisfied with the results.



@kenwhiton and @CalTinson:



THANKS!  Just noting that in TBird 17, this still works.  Solved a
nuisance I'd given up hope on.



Does this also apply to mail/news in SeaMonkey [User agent:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0
SeaMonkey/2.17.1]?


  I've never used SeaMonkey, so I don't know.  Searching on line, I
find that SeaMonkey can use the userChrome.css (and userContent.css)
file(s), but I don't know if element identifiers would be the same.
Your best bet would be to ask in the mozilla.support.seamonkey
newsgroup.  To give you a headstart on that I'm cross-posting this and
setting the follow-up to mozilla.support.seamonkey.

 Ken Whiton




happy to report this works reliably w/in Seamonkey with no changes 
whatsoever...


sean


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Re: A new PDF problem...in seamonkey

[A Williams]

uttam.ha...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:57:57 PM UTC+5:30, uttam...@gmail.com wrote:

i guess there is no solution

i use my trusted acrobat 7 professional and have felt no need to buy the newer 
version it keeps popping ( i seriously feel that this is a major flaw in 
sofware industry till someone comes up with no updates required thus perfect 
product, updates are to rectify flaws)

now with sea monkey this will not be useable, just as i junked win7 for xp to 
use my trusted softwares , i guess i will soon junk seamonkey if it does not 
rectify, symbiotic nature is nice if it subserve ur users else people will 
migrate.

wonder if its time to RIP for seamonkey.

alteast chrome is still not an issue, ie 7 is as it just crashes.

soon it will be there goes my mozilla!!

i have not found a soln yet. scavanged the web but no recourse.

Alas the plugin is a acrobat 11 reader



Have you checked if installing Acrobat Reader 11 breaks Acrobat 
Professional 7?  I imagine you could test this, reinstalling the ancient 
version if AR11 breaks it.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.19

[Zanqeutil]

Philip TAYLOR schreef:

Robert Kaiser wrote:


Philip TAYLOR schrieb:

A new release of an application on
which I rely is terminally broken when used with medium-sized
fonts (125%) as opposed to the default of small (100%).


No, from all I know, it's now actually respecting that 125% setting
while before it wrongly ignored this setting completely. So, from that
POV, a bug has been actually fixed.


And yet, the browser becomes completely unusable when 125% fonts
are selected.  Web pages appear two steps zoomed, and if one
applies the recommended fix to About:Config::layout.css.devPixelsPerPx
-> +1 (default : -1), the system/Chrome fonts then appear unreadably small.

I am sure you would agree that it is extremely unlikely that
Internet Explorer does not also respect "font-size: medium",
yet it and Seamonkey 2.17.1 render the same page almost
identically while IE and Seamonkey 2.19 render it completely
differently (the latter being two zoom steps larger, as
stated above).

Philip Taylofr



You can use the Theme Font & Size Changer add-on

Windows XP Pro SP3 Seamonkey 2.19
I use an old 17 inch CRT monitor, resolution 800 x 100 at 120%

I apllied the setting
about:config layout.css.devPixelsPerPx : 1 default : -1
Web content is now 100% but the menu fonts became very tiny in the 
browser and in email.


So I installed the Theme Font & Size Changer add-on

https://addons.mozilla.org/nl/firefox/addon/theme-font-size-changer/

It places a very big button at the navigation bar left from the throbber 
but you can easy drag it (customize)to the Menubar.

I set the font size at 13 pts everything looks fine again.

Here are some tinypic screenshots.

1.Theme Font & Size Changer very big button at the navigation bar

http://i42.tinypic.com/2nb7tcn.jpg
http://tinypic.com/r/2nb7tcn/5

2. Theme Font & Size Changer Default settings (normal) button at menubar

http://i43.tinypic.com/33k9ceg.jpg
http://tinypic.com/r/33k9ceg/5

3. Theme Font & Size Changer set font size 13 pts,
all other settings normal

http://i40.tinypic.com/116oz5t.jpg
http://tinypic.com/r/116oz5t/5

4. Mail News too small fonts

http://i43.tinypic.com/15h277o.jpg
http://tinypic.com/r/15h277o/5

5. Mail News font size 13 pts

http://i43.tinypic.com/34ep56u.jpg
http://tinypic.com/r/34ep56u/5

Zanqeutil

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Re: OddBall Problem

[Jerrich]

On Tuesday, July 9, 2013 9:16:57 AM UTC-6, jer...@comcast.net wrote:
> My mouse wheel now only works with cursor at the top of the screen.  Cursor 
> goes dead if at the bottom of screen.  What could cause this?  (same with two 
> different mouses).
> 
> JR

Same symptom with MS mouse and Logitech mouse; wheel goes dead at bottom of 
screen. Hmmm.
JR
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Re: clearing a url out of the url cache

[Ray_Net]

Rob wrote, On 28/06/2013 10:20:

Geoff Welsh  wrote:

I've wondered about editing the drop-down for years (off and on) and
have not seen anything yet.  I think you can change the number of saved
and maybe even a timeframe but haven't seen how to pluck out a bad URL.

Microsoft Internet Explorer has this feature.
Countless are the times that I clicked on the down arrow, saw the
site that I wanted to go to, moved the mouse a little to the left
to click on the line, and at that time a red X magically appears
and the click deletes the entry from the list.
Extremely irritating!
This is not irritating, It's marvelous ... we can delete an entry out of 
the list !!! SM cannot.

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Re: How reuse an old e-mails as a brand new e-mail?

[Andrea Govoni]

Ant wrote:
> I notice when replying to my old e-mail with new title and (B)CC
> addresses and then sending, SM v2.1x thinks it is part of the same
> thread which is not what I want. I also tried using my old e-mail as a
> new e-mail template and sending, but got the same results.
> 
> How can I avoid having to start from scratch for new e-mails?

I think you can use the

Message --> Edit message as new

menu item (not sure about the exact wording, I'm on a localized SM version).


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Re: for love of Seamonkey 2.19 (unofficial 64-bit Linux port build)

[Daniel]

Ant wrote:

On 7/7/2013 4:41 AM PT, Daniel typed:


http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.19/contrib/


I finally upgraded my 64-bit Debian oldstable to stable last night, but
it broke my old 32-bit SeaMonkey v2.19 due to missing files. :( I even
installed the packages that have them. I tried IceApe's old SM package
and it worked, but dang it is too old and two addons were not enabled.

So, I decided to try this unofficial 64-bit v2.19 and it worked! So far,
nothing is broken. Is there a list of known issues for only this
unofficial contributed set?


Try this, Ant...

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.19/


I meant only for the unofficial 64-bit Linux build, not the whole
generic v2.19.


Towards the middle of that page, under "Known Issues", they list 
Windows, Linux and Mac differences!


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:22.0) 
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Re: I get: SeaMonkey is already running

[goodwin]

On 06/24/2013 09:35 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:

Mike C wrote:

When I try to open SM I get:
SeaMonkey is already running, but is not responding. To open a new
window, you
must first close the existing SeaMonkey process, or restart your system.

BUT, It's NOT running!
This even happens in safe mode.
And with a fresh re-boot.

Anyone know the answer?


No, but I know a new (related) question, why doesn't "-new-instance"
make it ignore the problem. Acording to help that's exactly what it
should do. And I believe I've used command line options to open a new
remote version as well, but don't have time to research it for you. Take
a look at the "-remote" command values, see if that gives you a
workaround if you ever really do have a running process.

I don't use SN (yet) but am curious here - does SM use the parentlock 
file as TB and FF do?

Might that be in play here?
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Bookmarks missing in 2.19?

[Desiree]

I upgraded to 2.19 a couple of days ago.  All bookmarks are missing! 
History is intact though.  Is this a known problem on 2.19?  I've been 
using SM for years (and Mozilla Suite before it) and I don't recall ever 
losing all bookmarks when upgrading.  This is on Win 8 Pro.

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Re: No NNTP messages have been gatewayed to this list since 22/05/2013

[WaltS]

On 07/06/2013 01:47 PM, Philip Taylor wrote:

No NNTP messages have been gatewayed to this list since 22/05/2013 19:13
Philip Taylor




I'm not getting any on the mozilla.general mailing list from the 
mozilla.general newsgroup, since I signed up yesterday.


Maybe they have implemented "Web Forum + Email list integration" as 
outlined in option #4. The Web Forum being Google Groups for now.




Suggest setting up newsgroups in SeaMonkey if you want to see all posts.

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Re: Loss of ownership after 2.19 upgrade

[Robert Kaiser]

David Wilkinson schrieb:

After upgrading to version 2.19 on a Windows 7 x64 system, my profile
was not working properly. I tracked this down to the fact that I had
lost ownership (and hence permissions) of prefs.js (and also
sessionstore.json, and the safebrowsing folder).


That's interesting to hear. Who was ownership turned to?

Robert Kaiser

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OddBall Problem

[Jerrich]

My mouse wheel now only works with cursor at the top of the screen.  Cursor 
goes dead if at the bottom of screen.  What could cause this?  (same with two 
different mouses).
JR
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Re: can't access Google Groups since a few days, loop redirection

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Gabriel wrote:


Hello,

since about 3 days I can't access Google Groups, the URL is "looping"
and after 1/2 minutes I get an error about too many redirections:
https://accounts.google.com/ServiceLogin?service=groups2&passive=1209600&continue=http://groups.google.com/?pli%3D1&followup=http://groups.google.com/?pli%3D1


As anyone else noticing this problem?


WFM.

Did you change your cookie policy?

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Re: where is the "ignore thread" data list stored

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Geoff Welsh wrote:


presumably, the "Ignore Thread" option under the Message dropdown (Mac
main menu) will keep SM from downloading any more posts with the same
subject.  At least that's how I think it works...seems to work like
that.  (nothing in Help on "ignore")

This is quite useful when a crossposted spam/flame war starts in a
newsgroup you like to read.

But, if the subject title itself was rather mild, from a wording
standpoint, then a legit (new) thread with the same subject title may
/someday/ start and you would never see it.

so where is the kill-file/ignore-thread list stored?, and can you edit
it? or just delete it?


You're assuming that a thread is defined by the subject line. But that's 
not how SeaMonkey (and other good programs) thread messages. See RFC822:




The "In-Reply-To:" and "References:" fields are used when creating a 
reply to a message.  They hold the message identifier of the original 
message and the message identifiers of other messages (for example, in 
the case of a reply to a message which was itself a reply).  The 
"In-Reply-To:" field may be used to identify the message (or messages) 
to which the new message is a reply, while the "References:" field may 
be used to identify a "thread" of conversation.


When creating a reply to a message, the "In-Reply-To:" and "References:" 
fields of the resultant message are constructed as follows:


The "In-Reply-To:" field will contain the contents of the "Message-ID:" 
field of the message to which this one is a reply (the "parent 
message").  If there is more than one parent message, then the 
"In-Reply-To:" field will contain the contents of all of the parents' 
"Message-ID:" fields.  If there is no "Message-ID:" field in any of the 
parent messages, then the new message will have no "In-Reply-To:" field.


[Page 24]

For more, follow the link; the explanation doesn't end there.

For a more user-friendly explanation, go here:


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Re: Thunderbird version equivalences?

[David E. Ross]

On 6/24/13 5:18 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> WaltS wrote:
> 
>> On 06/24/2013 07:28 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>
>>> I know we advertise Firefox compatibility to fool the idiot
>>> webmasters, and I can easily see my "Firefox version," so to
>>> speak.
>>>
>>> But for purposes of discussion with colleagues who use
>>> Thunderbird, which versions of SeaMonkey correspond (roughly, I
>>> know) to which versions of Thunderbird? Is there a table posted
>>> somewhere?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>
>> Whatever version of SeaMonkey is based on Gecko 17.0 roughly
>> corresponds with Thunderbird. That looks like it would be SeaMonkey
>> 2.14.
>>
>> This might help.
>>
>> 
> 
> It does, somewhat, and so does this:
> 
> It's especially clear about future versions (e.g., SM 2.19 is based on 
> Gecko 22), not so much about past versions.
> 
> But I don't see which version of SM is based on Gecko 17, and even if I 
> did, which version of TB would that be?
> 

Try .

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Export Passwords

[Eric]

I'm trying to integrate the passwords from my home machine in to a 
password manager (Keepass) so I can take it to another machine that 
doesn't have Seamonkey on it, but that I use on occassion for accessing 
websites that requires passwords.


Is there a way to export the user names and passwords from Seamonkey in 
to a CSV file that I can import to Keepass?


TIA

Eric
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Re: Check Plugins?...

[Rufus]

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Rufus wrote:


Ok, one more odd behavior that just started today.  For some reason at
launch SM 2.13.2 Mac (running under OS 10.6.8) is now opening my home
page and then opening a second tab with a "check plugins" page upon
launch.  And it's not doing it for every session - seems random.

Is there a way I can fat-finger this on the keyboard during launch?  I
can't seem to tie it to anything.


Could you have done this?

Edit | Browser:
Display on [Browser Startup]
(•) Restore Previous Session



I'm wondering now if I have a virus or something...what comes up is a
page similar to what you get if you invoke the Add-ons Manager and click
the "Check to see if your plugins are up to date" link...but I didn't
pay close enough attention to try and see if it was a spoofed page or
not.  But I'll run a manual scan anyway.

Anyway, what I did was to update a couple of my Add-ons (Silverlight and
Shockwave; as SM did tell me they were out of date) using the SM
provided link and it hasn't happened since.

SM is also telling my that Quicktime is out of date although the link
tells me 7.6.6 is the latest...must be a 10.7 vs 10.6 thing?



for me, the page at

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/

says my QT plugin is 7.6.6 and that is "up to date"

GW


Yes - that's exactly what I'm seeing there too.

But if I open the Add-ons Manager and look at Plugins it says "An
important update is available for Quicktime Plug-in 7.6.6" in yellow
stripes.

So I'm thinking SM is seeing an update for OS 10.7 or 10.8 and not 10.6,
which is what I'm running.  But I can't find a way to verify that.



Ok - I did go and take a look at my Lion install, and the Quicktime 
plugin there is 7.7.1, so I guess SM running under 10.6.8 is seeing that 
one and flagging an "update"...though I maintain both QT player 10 and 
QT 7.6.6 on my SnoLep machine(s).


So what does SM really want?

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Re: Thunderbird version equivalences?

[Ed Mullen]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 6/26/13 9:25 AM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

I know we advertise Firefox compatibility to fool the idiot webmasters,
and I can easily see my "Firefox version," so to speak.

But for purposes of discussion with colleagues who use Thunderbird,
which versions of SeaMonkey correspond (roughly, I know) to which
versions of Thunderbird? Is there a table posted somewhere?

Thanks.


Paul, it always seems to me that SM and FF are out of sink by one, i.e.
you might expect SM 2.15 to be equivalent of FF (2 + 15) 17, but in fact
SM 2.15 is equivalent to FF (2 + 15 + *1* ) 18. SM 2.19 is equivalent to
FF (2 + 19 + *1* ) 22.

Don't know why, just is!!

Prior to TB going extended release or whatever it's called, FF nn
related to TB nn.


So how about embedding somewhere in each SM release the version of FF/TB
that it supposedly mimics, (is equivalent to).
This could even be placed in the release notes, along with some other
descriptions of the code base levels on which this given SM release is
based.



The user agent (UA) string for each Mozilla application indicates the
Gecko version.  The Gecko version is the number following "rv:".

For SeaMonkey, the UA string is displayed by going to the menu bar and
selecting either [Help > About SeaMonkey] or [Help > Troubleshooting
Information].  For Thunderbird, the UA string is displayed by going to
the menu bar and selecting [Help > Troubleshooting Information].  Not
having Firefox installed, I assume that its UA string is displayed the
same way as for Thunderbird.


The UA is not displayed with Help - About Firefox.  It is displayed with 
Help - Troubleshooting




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Thunderbird version equivalences?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

I know we advertise Firefox compatibility to fool the idiot webmasters, 
and I can easily see my "Firefox version," so to speak.


But for purposes of discussion with colleagues who use Thunderbird, 
which versions of SeaMonkey correspond (roughly, I know) to which 
versions of Thunderbird? Is there a table posted somewhere?


Thanks.

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Re: clearing a url out of the url cache

[Daniel]

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Daniel wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 6/27/13 6:31 AM, Daniel wrote:

Jim wrote:

Being lazy, and usually going to the same web sites rather than
others,
I often click on the down arrow on the right side of where you enter
the
URL you wish to go to, and click on one of the URLs from the
selections
that appear, to go to that URL.

How can I delete just one of those URLs from the selection. Being used
to doing that, when I click on that particular URL, SeaMonkey says
"Redirection loop." and give me an error page (I guess they changed
the
URL?)

I normal clear out everything under privacy, etc., once every six
months
or so, because intuitively I feel there's only so much data you want
the
browser to store at one time. Then I start letting things fill up
again.

BTW, the specific URL is:

http://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/viewLogin.do

Thanks
Jim


Jim, have you tried right clicking on the specific address and the 
*Boy* am I lucky, I was going to say "delete the address from the
list",
but I just checked and I'm not seeing that option now ... maybe due to
one of my add-ons removing that functionality!!

Sorry, got nothing for you, Jim!! :-(



It has nothing to do with any add-on. I ran SeaMonkey in Safe Mode and
still could not see such an option.


Oh, O.K., thanks for checking, David. I wonder what happened to it?? I'm
sure it was there, once upon a time.



I've wondered about editing the drop-down for years (off and on) and
have not seen anything yet.  I think you can change the number of saved
and maybe even a timeframe but haven't seen how to pluck out a bad URL.

You can physically open a good URL a dozen times in a row, though, to
promote it toward the top of the list.  (Like if you want "g" to guess
Google first instead of goofythingIdontneed.com)

GW


Geoff, we were not talking about the URL Drop-down list, rather the list 
displayed if you right click on a link.


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Re: Check Plugins?...

[Rufus]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Rufus wrote:


No, everything seems to be working just fine.  I just don't get why SM
thinks I need to "update" the QT plugin.  Nothing seems to be "wrong"
other than that.

This all started with SM asking me to do some updates seemingly at
random on startup - I did end up updating Silverlight and Shockwave
director and that stopped.  But for some reason the Add-on Manager is
still telling me I need to "update" QT 7.6.6.


Current version is 7.7.4, which appears to be later than 7.6.6:




7.6.6 is the highest that will run for SnoLep, though...looking though 
the QT downloads.


So SM shouldn't be looking for an update past 7.6.6. in my case - I'm 
running OS 10.6.8 on this machine.  But I'll try re-installing QT and 
see what I get.


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Re: Thunderbird version equivalences?

[WaltS]

On 06/24/2013 08:30 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 6/24/13 5:18 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

WaltS wrote:


On 06/24/2013 07:28 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


I know we advertise Firefox compatibility to fool the idiot
webmasters, and I can easily see my "Firefox version," so to
speak.

But for purposes of discussion with colleagues who use
Thunderbird, which versions of SeaMonkey correspond (roughly, I
know) to which versions of Thunderbird? Is there a table posted
somewhere?

Thanks.


Whatever version of SeaMonkey is based on Gecko 17.0 roughly
corresponds with Thunderbird. That looks like it would be SeaMonkey
2.14.

This might help.




It does, somewhat, and so does this:

It's especially clear about future versions (e.g., SM 2.19 is based on
Gecko 22), not so much about past versions.

But I don't see which version of SM is based on Gecko 17, and even if I
did, which version of TB would that be?



Try .




Nice table, but it needs updated. We will be at Firefox 22.0 based on 
Gecko 22.0 sometime tomorrow.


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Re: A new PDF problem...

[uttam . hathi]

i guess there is no solution
i use my trusted acrobat 7 professional and have felt no need to buy the newer 
version it keeps popping ( i seriously feel that this is a major flaw in 
sofware industry till someone comes up with no updates required thus perfect 
product, updates are to rectify flaws)
now with sea monkey this will not be useable, just as i junked win7 for xp to 
use my trusted softwares , i guess i will soon junk seamonkey if it does not 
rectify, symbiotic nature is nice if it subserve ur users else people will 
migrate.
wonder if its time to RIP for seamonkey.
alteast chrome is still not an issue, ie 7 is as it just crashes.
soon it will be there goes my mozilla!!
i have not found a soln yet. scavanged the web but no recourse.
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Re: A new PDF problem...in seamonkey

[hawker]

On 7/10/2013 9:45 AM, A Williams wrote:

uttam.ha...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:57:57 PM UTC+5:30, uttam...@gmail.com
wrote:

i guess there is no solution

i use my trusted acrobat 7 professional and have felt no need to buy
the newer version it keeps popping ( i seriously feel that this is a
major flaw in sofware industry till someone comes up with no updates
required thus perfect product, updates are to rectify flaws)

now with sea monkey this will not be useable, just as i junked win7
for xp to use my trusted softwares , i guess i will soon junk
seamonkey if it does not rectify, symbiotic nature is nice if it
subserve ur users else people will migrate.

wonder if its time to RIP for seamonkey.

alteast chrome is still not an issue, ie 7 is as it just crashes.

soon it will be there goes my mozilla!!

i have not found a soln yet. scavanged the web but no recourse.

Alas the plugin is a acrobat 11 reader



Have you checked if installing Acrobat Reader 11 breaks Acrobat
Professional 7?  I imagine you could test this, reinstalling the ancient
version if AR11 breaks it.


I'm in a similar situation. I have the older Acrobat suite when I need 
to make and edit PDFs but use the plug in for web work. This works well 
because some web PDFs have features that are not in my older Acrobat 
suite anyway.
There is some confusion because occasionally a web link will open the 
wrong Acrobat but for the most part this works well. I think I had to 
install the reader after the full (older) version.


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Re: Seamonkey 2.19

[Mark Berger]

Philip TAYLOR wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:


Philip TAYLOR schrieb:

A new release of an application on
which I rely is terminally broken when used with medium-sized
fonts (125%) as opposed to the default of small (100%).


No, from all I know, it's now actually respecting that 125% setting
while before it wrongly ignored this setting completely. So, from that
POV, a bug has been actually fixed.


And yet, the browser becomes completely unusable when 125% fonts
are selected.  Web pages appear two steps zoomed, and if one
applies the recommended fix to About:Config::layout.css.devPixelsPerPx
-> +1 (default : -1), the system/Chrome fonts then appear unreadably small.

I am sure you would agree that it is extremely unlikely that
Internet Explorer does not also respect "font-size: medium",
yet it and Seamonkey 2.17.1 render the same page almost
identically while IE and Seamonkey 2.19 render it completely
differently (the latter being two zoom steps larger, as
stated above).

Philip Taylofr



"from that POV, a bug has been actually fixed."

From my POV, fixing that "bug" has introduced all sorts of problems. 
Should I now have to change my entire system font size just so SM 
behaves like it did before?


How do I turn off this wonderful bug "fix"?
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Re: Adblock Plus won't install

[Daniel]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/7/2013 8:51 AM, RGrannus wrote:

Sorry to bother you again, but Adblock Plus won't install. It stops and
just sits there when I press the "run" button. I can and did save it to
my files, but it doesn't seem to be an executable file. Am I doing
something wrong or should I use one of the other downloads on that page?


Having saved the XPI file for AdBlock Plus, do the following:

1.  Launch SeaMonkey.

2.  On the menu bar, select [Tools > Add-ons Manager].

3.  On the Add-ons Manager window or tab (depending on how you have
configured SeaMonkey), select the green puzzle piece (Extensions) that
appears on the left.

4.  On the upper-right there will be a button that has a machine gear or
daisy.  Select it and then select "Install Add-on From File" from the
pull-down selection list.

5.  In the "Select add-on to install" window, navigate to where you
saved the XPI file for AdBlock Plus.  Select the XPI file and then the
Open button.

6.  If you get a warning about installation not enabled, select the
option to enable installation and repeat steps #4 and #5.

7.  On the Software Installation window, the Install Now button becomes
enabled after 4 seconds.  Then select that button.


Hey, David, from the dim mists of my mind (Moz Suite days, maybe), I'm 
thinking that you could install an xpi file by, in a Browser window, by 
going File->Open File then double click on the xpi file and job done.


Doesn't this way work now-a-days (i.e. post Add-on Manager or post SM 2.1)??

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Re: Ubuntuzilla PPA

[Cruz, Jaime]

Daniel wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Does anyone know when Daniel will have the latest Seamonkey build up on
Ubuntuzilla?

FWIW, when I "check for updates" from Seamonkey, it still tells me that
there aren't any updates available.  Running Ubuntu Precise, 64-bit.

Thanks,


I hope you're not referring to this "Daniel", Jamie!! I know nothing
about Ububtuzilla!



Daniel Folkinshteyn apparently maintains the Ubuntuzilla PPA.  I'm
assuming you're NOT him.


No, I'm not him, Jamie! Thanks for clearing up my confusion.



Just got the update from Ubuntuzilla.  If Mr. Folkinshteyn is out there, 
THANKS!



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Re: 2.19 Font Size

[Larry S.]

Mark Berger wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Stéphane Grégoire wrote:

Hi,

Larry S. a tapoté, le 05/07/2013 22:26:

First step done with o.k. results--made the recommended changes in
about:config, and bookmarks and Web sites are back to "normal" (i.e.
2.17.1) size, but--now the drop-downs, mail/news address lines, and
tool
bars are quite small. How do I get them all to change, not just Web
sites?


»Q« already replied :




Thanks for the tip. I hadn't seen Q's reply before, probably since I
don't follow that news site--just the support.seamonkey group.

As I read the description, it would seem to be my answer. Unfortunately,
I tried to get it, only to discover that it does not work for SM 2.19.
Guess I'm stuck with tiny tool bar and header information. Sigh . . .
(What were they thinking?)

Thanks again,
Larry


You can install this addon by clicking 'install anyway'.  It will
install, but it doesn't fix the problems.  Menu fonts are several
different sizes, the mail panes are all over the place, and web pages
are way too small.  Still no resolution.  I'm thinking of going back to
2.17.
After further thought, and increasing frustration, I went ahead and 
tried the add-on, figuring I could always remove it. It did install, and 
seems to have fixed the problem. I increased font size (using the 
add-on) to 13 and menus and tool bars are now back to "normal". No bad 
effects in Web pages.


So, seems to have worked in my case(XP SP 3, SM 2.19).

Larry
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Re: Ubuntuzilla PPA

[Daniel]

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Does anyone know when Daniel will have the latest Seamonkey build up on
Ubuntuzilla?

FWIW, when I "check for updates" from Seamonkey, it still tells me that
there aren't any updates available.  Running Ubuntu Precise, 64-bit.

Thanks,


I hope you're not referring to this "Daniel", Jamie!! I know nothing
about Ububtuzilla!



Daniel Folkinshteyn apparently maintains the Ubuntuzilla PPA.  I'm
assuming you're NOT him.


No, I'm not him, Jamie! Thanks for clearing up my confusion.

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Re: Check Plugins?...

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Rufus wrote:


No, everything seems to be working just fine.  I just don't get why SM
thinks I need to "update" the QT plugin.  Nothing seems to be "wrong"
other than that.

This all started with SM asking me to do some updates seemingly at
random on startup - I did end up updating Silverlight and Shockwave
director and that stopped.  But for some reason the Add-on Manager is
still telling me I need to "update" QT 7.6.6.


Current version is 7.7.4, which appears to be later than 7.6.6:


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Re: where is the "ignore thread" data list stored

[Geoff Welsh]

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2013-06-28 4:20 PM, Geoff Welsh wrote:

presumably, the "Ignore Thread" option under the Message dropdown (Mac
main menu) will keep SM from downloading any more posts with the same
subject. At least that's how I think it works...seems to work like
that. (nothing in Help on "ignore")

This is quite useful when a crossposted spam/flame war starts in a
newsgroup you like to read.

But, if the subject title itself was rather mild, from a wording
standpoint, then a legit (new) thread with the same subject title may
/someday/ start and you would never see it.

so where is the kill-file/ignore-thread list stored?, and can you edit
it? or just delete it?


There are a couple of things you can do:

* Set SeaMonkey not to group together threads of the same subject. For
instructions, visit
.

* There's a setting in the View menu to display ignored threads. You can
use that the check if there are any threads you want to un-ignore. For
instructions, visit .



Thanks Chris, and everyone.  I was easily lost by the fact that UN-doing 
what was done was found in a different spot.  (under View, as opposed to 
under Message)


GW. on Mac
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Re: Flash plug-in not really disabled?

[Desiree]

On 7/7/2013 7:59 AM, Dan B. wrote:

Does the Flash plug-in bypass SeaMonkey's disabling of it?

I have disabled the Flash plug-in (in the configuration page at
about:addons), and when I go to a page like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRW2poUfJ34, SeaMonkey first says

This plugin is disabled
   Manage plugins

but then a second later the video starts playing anyway.


Thanks,
Daniel

Isn't it wonderful that now we don't generally need Flash at Youtube? 
Better experience with HTML5 anyway.

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Re: Loss of ownership after 2.19 upgrade

[David Wilkinson]

Robert Kaiser wrote:

David Wilkinson schrieb:

After upgrading to version 2.19 on a Windows 7 x64 system, my profile
was not working properly. I tracked this down to the fact that I had
lost ownership (and hence permissions) of prefs.js (and also
sessionstore.json, and the safebrowsing folder).


That's interesting to hear. Who was ownership turned to?


I think that when I looked in Advanced Security Settings, it said the owner 
could not be displayed. But when I went to edit the owner, it was displayed as 
MachineName\Administrators.


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Re: for love of Seamonkey 2.19 (unofficial 64-bit Linux port build)

[Ant]

On 7/7/2013 11:30 PM PT, Justin Wood (Callek) typed:


I should note that while we do build this officially, we do *NOT*
officially "support" it.

Primarily because we don't have any forms of testing/saneness checking
of these buids at this time.

We also do not have any form of automated updates generated for these
builds.


Do I assume future small incremental upgrades can't be done through
64-bit SM's "Check for Updates" and have to download the full .tar.bz
file to extract and use? I know 32-bit can do that since they are
official.


For the time being that is correct. We do have plans to make the updates
through "Check for Updates" available, but right now there are some
technical hurdles to pass for that, and they are less important hurdles
than others we have atm.


Alright. Please kindly let us know when those small updates are finally 
released. So for now, we will update our SM with full packages.




I wonder how many users use 64-bit Mozilla web browsers. Maybe I need to
have both 32-bit (need to fix my missing .so file issues even though the
files exist). Hmm!


Mozilla Firefox has a decently non-zero number of 64 bit linux users,
one downside there is that the web properties still link to 32 bit iirc,
so on the release channel (and lesser extent beta) there is more 32 bit
users than 64 bit last I checked. while its opposite for nightly/aurora.
Granted those facts about Firefox may have changed since it has been
over a year since I last looked at the hard numbers there.


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Re: How can I get rid of pesky persistent advertisement messages

[A Williams]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

RGrannus wrote:


Advertisement windows keep popping up in every browser and application I
use. How can I get rid of them? If they're on the computer they must be
in a folder somewhere or some folder that triggers them. Is there any
way to trace a window to the folder that triggered it? Better yet would
be a clean-up program that deleted them. The ones I have now are:

Sarbash Labs. Appears in the middle of the screen, types out an
advertising message overseveral seconds and has a button that you have
to click to make it go away.
Improve Speed PC
Optimizer Pro
A window that appears and persists in the lower right corner without a
name saying "Reminder. Your Computer is not backed up. Backup your files
online today. Free computer backup Available." It has a "Backup Now"
button.


Sounds like you've gotten yourself infected with some kind of virus. Run
an AV program to detect/identify it, and hopefully remove it. Some AV
programs will give instructions or refer you to a website to learn how
to remove particular pests, depends what you have.

Followup set to mozilla.support.seamonkey.



I looked up Sarbash at http://sarbash-lab1.software.informer.com/ and at 
www.sarbash.com
The guy is Ukranian, apparently legit, mostly offering video-related 
software.

He does not offer backup software, he does not offer an optimiser.
http://www.spywareremove.com/removepcoptimizerpro.html looks more 
relevant, specifically the part about removing "the rogue security 
program PC Optimizer 2010".

As Paul G says - not a Mozilla problem.
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Re: Adblock Plus won't install

[David E. Ross]

On 7/7/2013 8:51 AM, RGrannus wrote:
> Sorry to bother you again, but Adblock Plus won't install. It stops and 
> just sits there when I press the "run" button. I can and did save it to 
> my files, but it doesn't seem to be an executable file. Am I doing 
> something wrong or should I use one of the other downloads on that page?

Having saved the XPI file for AdBlock Plus, do the following:

1.  Launch SeaMonkey.

2.  On the menu bar, select [Tools > Add-ons Manager].

3.  On the Add-ons Manager window or tab (depending on how you have
configured SeaMonkey), select the green puzzle piece (Extensions) that
appears on the left.

4.  On the upper-right there will be a button that has a machine gear or
daisy.  Select it and then select "Install Add-on From File" from the
pull-down selection list.

5.  In the "Select add-on to install" window, navigate to where you
saved the XPI file for AdBlock Plus.  Select the XPI file and then the
Open button.

6.  If you get a warning about installation not enabled, select the
option to enable installation and repeat steps #4 and #5.

7.  On the Software Installation window, the Install Now button becomes
enabled after 4 seconds.  Then select that button.

-- 
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Re: No NNTP messages have been gatewayed to this list since 22/05/2013

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

WaltS wrote:

> No "in batches" time sequence I have seen. So far they are
> instantaneous, although you can sign up for a daily digest.

Ah, okay. Yeah, the daily thing is what I was thinking of...

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Re: Ubuntuzilla PPA

[Daniel]

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Does anyone know when Daniel will have the latest Seamonkey build
up on
Ubuntuzilla?

FWIW, when I "check for updates" from Seamonkey, it still tells me
that
there aren't any updates available.  Running Ubuntu Precise, 64-bit.

Thanks,


I hope you're not referring to this "Daniel", Jamie!! I know nothing
about Ububtuzilla!



Daniel Folkinshteyn apparently maintains the Ubuntuzilla PPA.  I'm
assuming you're NOT him.


No, I'm not him, Jamie! Thanks for clearing up my confusion.



Just got the update from Ubuntuzilla.  If Mr. Folkinshteyn is out there,
THANKS!


Good to hear!

I don't use the repositories for any updating of my Mandriva, I just go 
straight to the program web sites and get the vanilla version.


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Quick find

[Ken Rudolph]

How do I disable "Quick Find (links only)" which seems to be new.  This 
is a useless feature for me.  I used to be able to (on some sites) jump 
to the next entry with an "n" and go back one with a "b".  That was 
useful.  Now all I get is this quick jump to the letter in a link.


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Re: Seamonkey 2.19

[Rufus]

Philip TAYLOR wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:


Philip Taylor schrieb:

Now reverted to 2.17.1.  2.19 cannot be used in its present state.


OK, so when your OS is reporting things to your applications that you
consider wrong, then your solution is to use old, insecure versions of
the applications? Maybe you should either correct the OS settings or
install an OS you can actually trust?


My operating system is not "reporting things to my application
that I consider wrong".  A new release of an application on
which I rely is terminally broken when used with medium-sized
fonts (125%) as opposed to the default of small (100%).  This
has been widely reported elsewhere, but the only productive
recommendations are to (a) make changes to About:Config; (b)
create and add content to userChrome.css, and (c) create and
add content to userContent.css.  It is clearly the case that
2.19 was /never/ tested against other than the default size
for Windows fonts, as it is inconceivable that it could have
been released had this defect been known to the developers.

Whilst I fully appreciate that lack of resources make it
impossible to regression test every release on every conceivable
platform and with every possibly user option, what we are
discussing here is the most widely used operating system in
the world and a user-preference on which, for reasons of
accessibility, a substantial minority of users will be
completely dependent.  This problem needs to be addressed
/urgently/, and not require all affected users to make
changes to About:Config, userChrome.css & userContent.css

Philip Taylor



Right-on, Phillip.  "First, do no harm"...as the physician's ethic puts it.

And I can say/add the same sentiment about ALL *basic* functionality of 
the product and for ALL OS releases.  That's just pride of 
workmanship/proper QA, IMO.


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Re: for love of Seamonkey 2.19 (unofficial 64-bit Linux port build)

[Ant]

On 7/7/2013 4:41 AM PT, Daniel typed:


http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.19/contrib/


I finally upgraded my 64-bit Debian oldstable to stable last night, but
it broke my old 32-bit SeaMonkey v2.19 due to missing files. :( I even
installed the packages that have them. I tried IceApe's old SM package
and it worked, but dang it is too old and two addons were not enabled.

So, I decided to try this unofficial 64-bit v2.19 and it worked! So far,
nothing is broken. Is there a list of known issues for only this
unofficial contributed set?


Try this, Ant...

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.19/


I meant only for the unofficial 64-bit Linux build, not the whole 
generic v2.19.

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Re: for love of Seamonkey 2.19

[Daniel]

Ant wrote:

On 7/4/2013 8:50 AM PT, Justin Wood (Callek) typed:
...

I should note that while we do build this officially, we do *NOT*
officially "support" it.

Primarily because we don't have any forms of testing/saneness checking
of these buids at this time.

We also do not have any form of automated updates generated for these
builds.


Do I assume future small incremental upgrades can't be done through
64-bit SM's "Check for Updates" and have to download the full .tar.bz
file to extract and use? I know 32-bit can do that since they are official.

I wonder how many users use 64-bit Mozilla web browsers. Maybe I need to
have both 32-bit (need to fix my missing .so file issues even though the
files exist). Hmm!


That's what Justin is saying  at the moment.

I expect they will, eventually, start producing the smaller update files.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.19

[Janine Starykowicz]

Ray_Net wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 07/07/2013 00:04:

Ray_Net wrote:


Janine Starykowicz wrote, On 06/07/2013 18:13:


When I open it in Notepad and try to save it, I get a popup saying
"Access is denied."


Change mms.cfg to mms.cfg-original
Copy mms.cfg-original to mms.txt
Edit and save mms.txt
Change mms.txt to mms.cfg


Works fine if the file is not locked/in use. That's an OS feature that will 
also prevent renaming. Of course, if the file isn't locked, you don't have to 
go through all this
rigmarole. Just open, edit, save, and you're done.


That was my only way to do it - the OS *accept* the changes .. OS *never 
accept* that i save mms.cfg !


It won't let me save anything in the Flash folder, keeps sending mms.txt to Documents. Keeps telling me to talk to admin, but I am admin. I've tried unchecking read only on the 
Flash folder, but there is a file that can't be reset and that stops it. Can't see any way to avoid that file, seems it is all or nothing. The file mms.cfg does not have individual 
read only, just inherits from the folder.


OK, tried to copy the file into the Flash folder and it worked! Got the "you need to 
be admin" prompt, hit continue and it did. Next problem is renaming it, it turns 
into mms.cfg.txt

Tried opening in HTM-Kit and re-saving, same problem: mms.cfg.txt. I can force 
Notepad++ to try to save it as mms.cfg, but get the no permission in this 
folder error.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.19

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ed Mullen wrote:


Janine Starykowicz wrote:


It won't let me save anything in the Flash folder, keeps sending
mms.txt to Documents. Keeps telling me to talk to admin, but I am
admin. ...


Does your User Account have Administrative privleges?


She said so -- see the excerpt above remaining after pruning.

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Re: Outgoing Email Message Failed Due to Lost Connection to Server

[Rob]

Marc Claypool  wrote:
> I get this (paraphrased) message fairly regularly. It's mostly a 
> nuisance because I can usually try to resend a couple of times and it 
> will go. I have been experiencing it a long time and not really worrying 
> about it because it is mostly a nuisance. However, last Friday I sent an 
> email just before I left home for the weekend and did not discover the 
> failure until I got back Sunday night.
>
> Is there a setting I need to change?
>
> I am running SeaMonkey 2.17.1. (I just saw a few minutes ago that 2.19 
> is out.) I experienced it both with my former desktop running Windows XP 
> Home and my current laptop running Windows 7 for which I have automatic 
> updates running.

It probably is a server problem.
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Re: Ubuntuzilla PPA

[Cruz, Jaime]

Daniel wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Does anyone know when Daniel will have the latest Seamonkey build up on
Ubuntuzilla?

FWIW, when I "check for updates" from Seamonkey, it still tells me that
there aren't any updates available.  Running Ubuntu Precise, 64-bit.

Thanks,


I hope you're not referring to this "Daniel", Jamie!! I know nothing
about Ububtuzilla!



Daniel Folkinshteyn apparently maintains the Ubuntuzilla PPA.  I'm 
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Re: for love of Seamonkey 2.19

[Daniel]

Ant wrote:

On 7/5/2013 3:02 AM PT, Daniel typed:


http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.19/contrib/


I finally upgraded my 64-bit Debian oldstable to stable last night, but
it broke my old 32-bit SeaMonkey v2.19 due to missing files. :( I even
installed the packages that have them. I tried IceApe's old SM package
and it worked, but dang it is too old and two addons were not enabled.

So, I decided to try this unofficial 64-bit v2.19 and it worked! So far,
nothing is broken. Is there a list of known issues for only this
unofficial contributed set?

Thank you in advance. :)


Try this, Ant...

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.19/

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:22.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/22.0 SeaMonkey/2.19 Build identifier: 20130625002157

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Re: Ubuntuzilla PPA

[Cruz, Jaime]

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Does anyone know when Daniel will have the latest Seamonkey build
up on
Ubuntuzilla?

FWIW, when I "check for updates" from Seamonkey, it still tells me
that
there aren't any updates available.  Running Ubuntu Precise, 64-bit.

Thanks,


I hope you're not referring to this "Daniel", Jamie!! I know nothing
about Ububtuzilla!



Daniel Folkinshteyn apparently maintains the Ubuntuzilla PPA.  I'm
assuming you're NOT him.


No, I'm not him, Jamie! Thanks for clearing up my confusion.



Just got the update from Ubuntuzilla.  If Mr. Folkinshteyn is out there,
THANKS!




By the way, no font issues of any kind on the systems I've updated. 
Those include three 32-bit versions of WindowsXP, and two 64-bit 
versions of Ubuntu Precise.



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Re: Seamonkey 2.19

[Albert M. Simon]

Unbelievable--right after sending of msg to you--it started downloading 
email again. Either you are just good luck, or the whole SM is weird.

In any case--thanks for whatever.

angels...@usa.net


Philip Taylor wrote:

Now reverted to 2.17.1.  2.19 cannot be used in its present state.
Philip Taylor

Philip Taylor wrote:

Just been updated : web sites and e-mail now
appear two zoom steps larger.  What has happened ?

Philip Taylor
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Re: No NNTP messages have been gatewayed to this list since 22/05/2013 19:13

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Philip TAYLOR wrote:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
> 
>> Are you now saying that your phrase "No NNTP messages have been..." as
>> your latest post indicates that you are getting or had gotten "some" of
>> them?
> 
> Until (and including) 22/05/2013 19:13, I received a large number of
> Seamonkey-related messages via the e-mail list
> "support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org".  W.e.f. 22/05/2013 19:13 + delta,
> the number of such messages dropped to near zero, and the only messages
> that I /did/ receive lacked the "Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey"
> header which indicates that the message originated via NNTP.  Thus since
> 22/05/2013 19:13 no NNTP messages have been gatewayed onto this list
> ("support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org"), and the only messages that /do/
> now appear on the list originate solely from those who, like myself,
> use e-mail rather than Usenet News to send and receive such messages.

Okay, thanks for the clarification. The only thing I can add is that my 
message above that you replied to was sent by NNTP to the news server. Did 
you receive it on the mailing list?

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Re: Seamonkey 2.19

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ray_Net wrote:


Janine Starykowicz wrote, On 06/07/2013 18:13:


When I open it in Notepad and try to save it, I get a popup saying
"Access is denied."


Change mms.cfg to mms.cfg-original
Copy mms.cfg-original to mms.txt
Edit and save mms.txt
Change mms.txt to mms.cfg


Works fine if the file is not locked/in use. That's an OS feature that 
will also prevent renaming. Of course, if the file isn't locked, you 
don't have to go through all this rigmarole. Just open, edit, save, and 
you're done.


Another possibility is that the system wants Janine to have admin 
privileges. In that case, she has to login as an administrator before 
modifying the file.


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Re: Seamonkey 2.19

[Ray_Net]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 07/07/2013 00:04:

Ray_Net wrote:


Janine Starykowicz wrote, On 06/07/2013 18:13:


When I open it in Notepad and try to save it, I get a popup saying
"Access is denied."


Change mms.cfg to mms.cfg-original
Copy mms.cfg-original to mms.txt
Edit and save mms.txt
Change mms.txt to mms.cfg


Works fine if the file is not locked/in use. That's an OS feature that 
will also prevent renaming. Of course, if the file isn't locked, you 
don't have to go through all this rigmarole. Just open, edit, save, 
and you're done.


That was my only way to do it - the OS *accept* the changes .. OS *never 
accept* that i save mms.cfg !

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Re: No NNTP messages have been gatewayed to this list since 22/05/2013 19:13

[Gerry Hickman]

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:


Oh, and you also said "but it's not being 'syndicated'" (which means
propagated)


OK, propagated was the word I was looking for.


on this NNTP server, which is set up as a private server
hosted for Mozilla by Giganews.


That's interesting; I assumed they were running their own NNTP.

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Re: Ubuntuzilla PPA

[Daniel]

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Does anyone know when Daniel will have the latest Seamonkey build up on
Ubuntuzilla?

FWIW, when I "check for updates" from Seamonkey, it still tells me that
there aren't any updates available.  Running Ubuntu Precise, 64-bit.

Thanks,


I hope you're not referring to this "Daniel", Jamie!! I know nothing 
about Ububtuzilla!


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Re: No NNTP messages have been gatewayed to this list since 22/05/2013

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

WaltS wrote:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> How about comparing your emails to the posts at Google Groups? It's
>> rare that those get cancelled as they propagate almost immediately,
>> while the to-email occurs in batches.
> 
> I haven't received any posts to this newsgroup on the mailing list since
> I signed up for it about 3 hours ago.

I don't know what the "in batches" time sequence might be. I'd say you'll 
probably get a flurry of messages all at the same time sometime later in 
the day, or night.

I've no real desire to sign up for it myself, just to test...;-)

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Re: No NNTP messages have been gatewayed to this list since 22/05/2013

[WaltS]

On 07/07/2013 09:09 AM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Philip TAYLOR wrote:


Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:


Are you now saying that your phrase "No NNTP messages have been..." as
your latest post indicates that you are getting or had gotten "some" of
them?


Until (and including) 22/05/2013 19:13, I received a large number of
Seamonkey-related messages via the e-mail list
"support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org".  W.e.f. 22/05/2013 19:13 + delta,
the number of such messages dropped to near zero, and the only messages
that I /did/ receive lacked the "Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey"
header which indicates that the message originated via NNTP.  Thus since
22/05/2013 19:13 no NNTP messages have been gatewayed onto this list
("support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org"), and the only messages that /do/
now appear on the list originate solely from those who, like myself,
use e-mail rather than Usenet News to send and receive such messages.


Okay, thanks for the clarification. The only thing I can add is that my
message above that you replied to was sent by NNTP to the news server. Did
you receive it on the mailing list?




I have not received any messages posted to the news server on the 
mailing list since I subscribed to it yesterday for testing purposes.


I have received those sent via the mailing list.

Must have sent the wrong email address to the m.general mailing list 
because I haven't received the confirmation email from that list.


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Re: Seamonkey 2.19

[Paul B. Gallagher]

rob wrote:


On Fri, 05 Jul 2013 01:14:54 -0500, Janine Starykowicz
 wrote:


but the busy cursor is back everywhere, I'm getting frequent "not
responding" messages, and there's a javascript hang that is
happening on several websites. It's not quite as bad as in January,
but almost. I'm on Win7 64-bit if that makes a difference. Did not
notice anything on the WinXP laptop.


I'm having the same problem on the same OS.  SM will work fine for a
day or two and then wham!, some sites, nytimes.com, for example,
bring it to its knees.  Restarting SM doesn't help.  I switch to FF
for a couple of hours, and SM fixes itself or maybe Win7 does
something.  Several clean installs from zip versions, no extensions,
plug-ins (except for the ones that it finds, such as pdf).
Bookmarks.html from 2.18 imported.  Don't know if 2.18 had the
problem on W7, since about 2 weeks ago got bounced at work from XP
box to W7 box, coincident with my moving from 2.18 to .19.  Maybe
Monday I'll install 2.18 and see what happens  No problems here
at home with 2.19 on XP with quite a few extensions etc.


Please give a clear, detailed description of "bring it to its knees." 
I'm running SM 2.19 on Win7 64 and have never had any problems with 
nytimes.com.


Perhaps it helps that I use AdBlock Plus -- it doesn't let the 
advertisers' scripts run.


When I first load the site, I get a blank page saying
[ ] Skip this ad
If I wait, it goes away and the front page loads normally, but it sets a 
bunch of cookies. So I set the cookie pref to reject all, and I only got 
half as many! Why? Because it only changed the permission for 
www.nytimes.com and not for nytimes.com! So I blocked that one, too, and 
the site refused to serve any content other than the front page -- it 
wanted me to either log in or accept cookies (and of course you can't 
log in without accepting cookies). When I reenabled session cookies, it 
behaved normally.


I still get no script errors, no hangs, no slow loads, no problems other 
than having to let Big Brother track me.


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Re: Adblock Plus won't install

[WaltS]

On 07/07/2013 11:51 AM, RGrannus wrote:

Sorry to bother you again, but Adblock Plus won't install. It stops and
just sits there when I press the "run" button. I can and did save it to
my files, but it doesn't seem to be an executable file. Am I doing
something wrong or should I use one of the other downloads on that page?



The "run" button?

The "Add to SeaMonkey" button worked just fine for me. It downloads the 
extension, then a Software Installation pop-up appears with "Install 
Now" and "Cancel" buttons.


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