Re: Create message filter from Subject: field ?

2013-11-15 Thread Philip Taylor


Geoff Welsh wrote:

 because that's what Ignore Thread does, its blocks posts with the
 subject you don't like..

There is no entry for Ignore in the Seamonkey Help system.
Where in the menu system is Ignore thread to be found, please ?

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Testing a change of Subject to see if it threads

2013-11-15 Thread Daniel

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:


Philip Taylor wrote:


EE wrote:


You could copy it from the Subject field of the message header.


Yes, I could.  But as I have written several times previously,
I am asking if it is possible for the match field to be auto-populated
from the Subject:  field, just as it is for the From:  field.
And if it is not, why not ?

Philip Taylor


because that's what Ignore Thread does, its blocks posts with the
subject you don't like..


Does it really monitor the subject line, or does it monitor the thread
using message ids and the like? I mean, if I reply to your message but
change the subject, can I bypass the filter, or does it see that I'm
replying to this thread and hide my message anyway?


Here you go, Paul, does this changed Subject still get threaded to the 
original Create message filter .. thread.


I'm guessing Yes, as, normally, when you stick an OT in the Subject it 
still threads correctly .. but then the original Subject is still 
there, so who knows?!?!


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Re: Create message filter from Subject: field ?

2013-11-15 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Philip Taylor wrote:


Geoff Welsh wrote:


because that's what Ignore Thread does, its blocks posts with the
subject you don't like..


There is no entry for Ignore in the Seamonkey Help system.
Where in the menu system is Ignore thread to be found, please ?


It's there, but not indexed. Look under Monitoring Threads.

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Re: File Help.... Moving

2013-11-15 Thread Daniel

NO wrote:

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

regz91 wrote:

NO wrote:

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hello all, I Am running SM 2.22 on W8 desktop. Upon reviewing large
files on my C: drive, I find that my Roaming Mozilla file is 42.27G.
Can someone explain to me what exactly this file is and how easy it is
to move to my d: drive?





Try compacting your mail folders.
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Compacting_folders
I think they are occupying lot of space



I think that may be the issue... alas, I can move these folders to
another drive, with minimal agita, correct? If so, how is this best done?

TIA - bo1953


In SeaMonkey, Tools-Switch Profiles-Manage Profiles-Create Profile.

On about the second screen, where you get to name the Profile, select 
Choose Folder, create the profile, including any mail and news 
accounts. Then close SeaMonkey and Copy/Move your current profiles to 
the new location.


Alternatively, after creating the new accounts, there is/was an add-on, 
called MozBackup I think, which would archive your profiles. Then you 
could re-install the profile into the new location.


HTH

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Re: Testing a change of Subject to see if it threads

2013-11-15 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Daniel wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Does it really monitor the subject line, or does it monitor the thread
using message ids and the like? I mean, if I reply to your message but
change the subject, can I bypass the filter, or does it see that I'm
replying to this thread and hide my message anyway?


Here you go, Paul, does this changed Subject still get threaded to the
original Create message filter .. thread.

I'm guessing Yes, as, normally, when you stick an OT in the Subject it
still threads correctly .. but then the original Subject is still
there, so who knows?!?!


Sure, I already knew SM could do threading properly, and sure enough it 
did in this case. I was just making sure Geoff's assertion that



that's what Ignore Thread does, its blocks posts with the subject
you don't like.


was misstated and SM was using the same strategy for threading here as 
elsewhere.


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Re: Random crash in SM Mail on Win32 only with recent builds

2013-11-15 Thread Daniel

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Michael Lueck wrote:

Greetings,

I have a client who uses SM on Windows XP x86 for light email needs.
Firefox is their main browser, though I believe at times - by clicking
links in mail messages - they do end up surfing with SM occasionally.

They have reported to me that SM will crash when it is open, perhaps
they are reading a mail message, and for no apparent reason SM will just
up and crash.

I have already visited their system once in response to this trouble
report. I made sure their mail box was freshly compacted, junk / trash
folders emptied.

I believe AdBlock Plus is their only extension in SM.

They have no mail subfolders, no message filters, nadda nadda nadda...
plain simply email client.

I cannot recall if I did a complete uninstall / reinstall of the SM
program or not on my last visit... I almost think it was a version
behind, so perhaps I did uninstall and reinstall the latest version
already.

Suggestions of what else to check? Thank you!

Blessings,



it's not my realm of expertise, but I'm pretty sure SM creates a report
when it crashes.  Someone else will likely chime in soon.
GW


Good point, Geoff!! I think if the OP, Michael, were to have a look at 
Tools-Web Development-Error Console, I think the last entry might give 
a possible hint as to the problem, if it were to be posted ...


(I don't know where to post, but maybe someone hereabouts does!!)

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Re: Create message filter from Subject: field ?

2013-11-15 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Philip Taylor wrote:



Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


It's there, but not indexed. Look under Monitoring Threads.


Thank you, Paul.  Under Monitoring threads, I am told :


Select a message in the thread.
   Open the Message menu, and choose Ignore Thread. SeaMonkey Mail
  Newsgroups marks all messages in the thread as read, and new replies
 posted to the thread will appear as read.


Selecting (for example) your message and clicking Message
offers no such option; the only possibly relevant option
is Create filter from message   Neither Watch thread
nor Ignore thread are offered as options.


On my system, under the menu item Message, way down at the bottom, the 
18th item I see is Ignore Thread, K.


If it helps any, this is not on the context menu (right-click), it's on 
the regular menu at the top of the window. It's two below Create filter 
from message.


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Re: Does not support UIDL or XTND XLST

2013-11-15 Thread Neil

NoOp wrote:


Got this response:
Timestamp: 11/14/2013 03:32:42 PM
Error: TypeError: top.opener.msgWindow.openFolder.server.nsIPop3IncomingServer 
is undefined
Source File: javascript: 
top.opener.msgWindow.openFolder.server.nsIPop3IncomingServer.pop3CapabilityFlags
 |= 0x30;
Line: 1
 


What does top.opener.msgWindow.openFolder.server.type say?

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Re: g contacts

2013-11-15 Thread Ray_Net

Bryan v. Roache wrote, On 14/11/2013 19:33:
hi, is their any way to delete an account from g contacts sink? if so 
how do you do so?


I don't know for other people but for me it's:
I did not understand what you are talking about.
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Re: Testing a change of Subject to see if it threads

2013-11-15 Thread Daniel

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Does it really monitor the subject line, or does it monitor the thread
using message ids and the like? I mean, if I reply to your message but
change the subject, can I bypass the filter, or does it see that I'm
replying to this thread and hide my message anyway?


Here you go, Paul, does this changed Subject still get threaded to the
original Create message filter .. thread.

I'm guessing Yes, as, normally, when you stick an OT in the Subject it
still threads correctly .. but then the original Subject is still
there, so who knows?!?!


Sure, I already knew SM could do threading properly, and sure enough it
did in this case. I was just making sure Geoff's assertion that


that's what Ignore Thread does, its blocks posts with the subject
you don't like.


was misstated and SM was using the same strategy for threading here as
elsewhere.


O.K., NP!

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Re: Create message filter from Subject: field ?

2013-11-15 Thread Daniel

Philip Taylor wrote:



Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


It's there, but not indexed. Look under Monitoring Threads.


Thank you, Paul.  Under Monitoring threads, I am told :


Select a message in the thread.
   Open the Message menu, and choose Ignore Thread. SeaMonkey Mail
  Newsgroups marks all messages in the thread as read, and new replies
 posted to the thread will appear as read.


Selecting (for example) your message and clicking Message
offers no such option; the only possibly relevant option
is Create filter from message   Neither Watch thread
nor Ignore thread are offered as options.

Philip Taylor


Phillip, are you looking at Tools-Message Filters or are you looking at 
the *Message* drop down list??


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Re: File Help.... Moving

2013-11-15 Thread Daniel

Daniel wrote:

NO wrote:

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

regz91 wrote:

NO wrote:

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hello all, I Am running SM 2.22 on W8 desktop. Upon reviewing large
files on my C: drive, I find that my Roaming Mozilla file is 42.27G.
Can someone explain to me what exactly this file is and how easy it is
to move to my d: drive?





Try compacting your mail folders.
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Compacting_folders
I think they are occupying lot of space



I think that may be the issue... alas, I can move these folders to
another drive, with minimal agita, correct? If so, how is this best done?

TIA - bo1953


In SeaMonkey, Tools-Switch Profiles-Manage Profiles-Create Profile.

On about the second screen, where you get to name the Profile, select
Choose Folder, create the profile, including any mail and news
accounts. Then close SeaMonkey and Copy/Move your current profiles to
the new location.

Alternatively, after creating the new accounts, there is/was an add-on,
called MozBackup I think, which would archive your profiles. Then you
could re-install the profile into the new location.

HTH

And I missed a bit out, maybe! After select Choose Folder, *select 
your desired location* , then create the .


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Re: g contacts

2013-11-15 Thread Connie

On 15/11/2013 10:03, Ray_Net wrote:

I don't know for other people but for me it's:
I did not understand what you are talking about.


Glad it wasn't just me.

Could it be something to do with Gmail.  Bryan uses sink when he means 
sync


So perhaps he doesn't want to sync(ronise) a Gmail account across two 
profiles or machines any more and he wants to know how to remove it 
from the list of  items in the sync program?


I don't use it although I have two machines that ought to by sync'd 
(or should that be sunc? ;) )


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Re: g contacts

2013-11-15 Thread Philip Taylor


Ray_Net wrote:
 Bryan v. Roache wrote, On 14/11/2013 19:33:
 hi, is their any way to delete an account from g contacts sink? if so
 how do you do so?
 
 I don't know for other people but for me it's:
 I did not understand what you are talking about.

On this occasion, Ray, you are not alone.

To Brian : Could you please explain what you are trying to accomplish
in full grammatical English, omitting all abbreviations and spellings
that may be meaningful to you but which may be completely opaque to
others ?

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Re: Bookmark Recovery

2013-11-15 Thread Philip Chee
On 14/11/2013 23:15, Jens Hatlak wrote:
 JohnW-Mpls wrote:
 Win XP  SM 2.20

 I have lots of bookmarks and yesterday I deleted a major directory by
 mistake and was not able recover it within SeaMonkey.  I looked in Help but
 did not learn what to do.

 The bookmarkbackups subdirectory implies that there is a SeaMonkey way to
 restore bookmarks.  But how?
 
 Open the Bookmarks Manager (Ctrl+B) and open the Restore menu below the 
 Tools menu.
 
 The entries listed there equal the JSON files located in the 
 bookmarkbackups directory inside the SM profile directory.
 
 And where in Help?
 
 I fear that's not in Help. Help is outdated in many ways, including 
 almost all changes related to Places (today's back-end for history and 
 bookmarks).

And if you want to help contribute to SeaMonkey but aren't a programmer,
you could help us by adding or updating our help files.

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Re: g contacts

2013-11-15 Thread Philip Taylor
OK, what is the extension g contacts ?
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Re: g contacts

2013-11-15 Thread Bryan v. Roache

On 11/15/2013 5:42 AM, Connie wrote:

On 15/11/2013 10:03, Ray_Net wrote:

I don't know for other people but for me it's:
I did not understand what you are talking about.


Glad it wasn't just me.

Could it be something to do with Gmail. Bryan uses sink when he means 
sync


So perhaps he doesn't want to sync(ronise) a Gmail account across two 
profiles or machines any more and he wants to know how to remove it 
from the list of items in the sync program?


I don't use it although I have two machines that ought to by sync'd 
(or should that be sunc? ;) )


Yes your correct I wish to delete an account that SeaMonkey is syncing 
its address book with.


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Re: g contacts

2013-11-15 Thread WaltS

On 11/15/2013 07:42 AM, Philip Taylor wrote:

OK, what is the extension g contacts ?
Philip Taylor




Probably this one.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/gcontactsync/


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No spellcheck in SM's composers's subject line?

2013-11-15 Thread Ant

Body gets checked, but not its Subject form? Or did I miss something?

Thank you in advance. :)
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Re: Bookmark Recovery

2013-11-15 Thread Ant

On 11/14/2013 12:50 PM PT, JohnW-Mpls typed:


I have lots of bookmarks and yesterday I deleted a major directory by
mistake and was not able recover it within SeaMonkey.  I looked in Help but
did not learn what to do.

The bookmarkbackups subdirectory implies that there is a SeaMonkey way to
restore bookmarks.  But how?


Open the Bookmarks Manager (Ctrl+B) and open the Restore menu below the
Tools menu.

The entries listed there equal the JSON files located in the
bookmarkbackups directory inside the SM profile directory.


Boy, just what I wanted - yesterday!  But thanks, I now know how for the
next time.


Ditto. I didn't know that existed. I assume this is bookmarks only and 
not histories and other data. I usually manually backup my 20 MB 
places.sqlite files often/frequently since they are portable. They even 
work in Firefoxes on other OSes so they are cross platform and browser 
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Re: g contacts

2013-11-15 Thread Connie

On 15/11/2013 12:25, Bryan v. Roache wrote:

Ok, I am attempting to remove an account from the extension g
contacts, for both Thunderbird, and SeaMonkey. I don’t appear to have
that option is their any way to remove an account from g contacts? The
reason I wish to do so, is because I am seeing double, address books
in the choice address book, and it is becoming an aggravation.


Right.

By g contacts you mean an email address?  If I have it right about 
what you want to do you can click on the address, then click on Delete 
or you can click on the address book, then click on Delete.  This is 
in my older version of SeaMonkey.  It may not be the same in newer 
versions.  If it isn't and I have understood you correctly, then 
someone else can tell you how to remove an address.  I don't have 
Thunderbird on this machine and I can't get to the one that does at 
the moment.  Again if I have understood you, someone will be able to 
tell you how to remove an address or address book in Thunderbird.


If you want to remove an account completely you can do that by opening 
SeaMonkey's email part, then clicking on Edit, then on Mail and 
Newsgroup Account Settings, highlighting the account and scrolling 
down to the bottom of that column and clicking on Remove account. 
Alternatively you can simply not have mails download by clicking on 
Server Settings in the left hand column for the account in question 
and UNchecking all the boxes under the same heading in the panel on 
the right.  You can manually download any mails for that account if 
you wish.


Again, this may not be quite the same in newer versions of SeaMonkey 
and someone will have to advise you if this is what you want to do.


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Re: Lightning 2.7b1 TB 26b1

2013-11-15 Thread WaltS

On 11/15/2013 09:36 AM, sean nathan wrote:

WaltS wrote, On 11/14/2013 08:22 PM:

WaltS wrote:

On 11/14/2013 10:11 PM, sean nathan wrote:

WaltS wrote, On 11/14/2013 10:32 AM:

On 11/14/2013 12:18 PM, Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:

Lightning 2.7b1 seems to be doing ok with TB 25b but not some much
with TB 26b.

- Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]




You probably need Lightning 2.8b1 which I only see a candidate build
for. I'd wait for it to appear on AMO under View other versions.

BTW this is the SeaMonkey support group. :)


at least OP gave me a heads up that there is a newer version of
Lightning than the 2.6b2 that is no longer working in my version of SM
2.22... now where to find it is my next mission...






For SeaMonkey 2.22 you need Lightning 2.6.2.



I mean Lightning 2.7b1.

Updated SM and forgot to check Lightning.



yes... but my aging brain is failing me as yet I've found no place with
a newer version than 2.6b2... and I can't recollect what AMO stands for...

sean



addons.mozilla.org

Lightning 2.7.b1 can be found here.

[Lightning :: Versions :: Add-ons for 
Thunderbird](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/lightning/versions/?page=1#version-2.7b1)


Also Lightning 2.8b1 for SeaMonkey 2.23b1 and Thunderbird 26.0b1 is now 
available.


[Lightning :: Versions :: Add-ons for 
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Re: g contacts

2013-11-15 Thread Connie

On 15/11/2013 13:18, WaltS wrote:

Try the forum for the extension. You will probably have better luck
there as your problem seems to be with the extension and not SeaMonkey.


I don't think it is an extension.

Many people in here are IT people or technically minded.  Not all of 
us are.  I think that can result in those who aren't techies trying 
to use geek speak and confusing the heck out of the techies, or 
just not fully understanding the terminology.


It's the same with explanations: some here are better than others.

From reading this group/list, a lot (?most) of those using SeaMonkey 
here use extensions, um, extensively.  I don't use them, at least not 
knowingly.  Most things I want to do, I can achieve without 
deliberately using an extension.


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Can't STAY logged in now - ????

2013-11-15 Thread DoctorBill

Something has been changed in my Seamonkey - I have to
log in each time I visit ALL web sites.

Before this, when I went to my usual web site haunts,
the system remembered and I went in 'Logged In'.
i.e. - stay logged in checked.  Now that doesn't work.

I did not change anything in the my Cookies are handled.

Help, please.

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Re: Can't STAY logged in now - ????

2013-11-15 Thread DoctorBill

DoctorBill wrote:

Something has been changed in my Seamonkey - I have to
log in each time I visit ALL web sites.

Before this, when I went to my usual web site haunts,
the system remembered and I went in 'Logged In'.
i.e. - stay logged in checked.  Now that doesn't work.

I did not change anything in the my Cookies are handled.

Help, please.

Bill


BTW - running on 2.12.1 SeaMonkey.

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Re: g contacts

2013-11-15 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Bryan v. Roache wrote:

On 11/15/2013 5:42 AM, Connie wrote:

On 15/11/2013 10:03, Ray_Net wrote:

I don't know for other people but for me it's:
I did not understand what you are talking about.


Glad it wasn't just me.

Could it be something to do with Gmail. Bryan uses sink when he means
sync

So perhaps he doesn't want to sync(ronise) a Gmail account across two
profiles or machines any more and he wants to know how to remove it
from the list of items in the sync program?

I don't use it although I have two machines that ought to by sync'd
(or should that be sunc? ;) )


Yes your correct I wish to delete an account that SeaMonkey is syncing
its address book with.


Is this what you're talking about?
http://gcontacts.codeplex.com/

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Re: g contacts

2013-11-15 Thread WaltS

On 11/15/2013 10:44 AM, Connie wrote:

On 15/11/2013 13:18, WaltS wrote:

Try the forum for the extension. You will probably have better luck
there as your problem seems to be with the extension and not SeaMonkey.


I don't think it is an extension.

Many people in here are IT people or technically minded.  Not all of us
are.  I think that can result in those who aren't techies trying to
use geek speak and confusing the heck out of the techies, or just
not fully understanding the terminology.

It's the same with explanations: some here are better than others.

 From reading this group/list, a lot (?most) of those using SeaMonkey
here use extensions, um, extensively.  I don't use them, at least not
knowingly.  Most things I want to do, I can achieve without deliberately
using an extension.




Well the OP is asking about g contacts and their sink, so I was thinking 
it was this extension, which has its own support forum.


https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/gcontactsync/

Supported applications:

Thunderbird 2 and up (including 3.x through 24.0)
Seamonkey 2 and up
Icedove (Debian-branded Thunderbird)
Postbox 1.0 - 2.1


Maybe they didn't read the AMO page, and just blindly went where no 
other user has gone before.


[quote]
When first setting up gContactSync 0.3 you should use a new address 
book. If you try to sync an address book with gContactSync that you 
already synchronized with a different add-on then you could get 
duplicates. 0.4 will merge contacts first.

[/quote]

Probably should call a plumber for the sink problem. :)



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Re: g contacts

2013-11-15 Thread Philip Taylor
connie.spar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Many people in here are IT people or technically minded.  Not all of us
 are.  I think that can result in those who aren't techies trying to
 use geek speak and confusing the heck out of the techies, or just
 not fully understanding the terminology.

Maybe, if rather than writing cryptic messages such as is their any way
to delete an account from g contacts sink, users could be
encouraged/educated/whatever to write along the lines of :

Hi.  I downloaded the 'g contacts' program from URL, and
I am trying to use it to synchronise my Gmail contacts with
my Seamonkey address book, but there is one particular contact
that I don't want to synchronise and I can find no way of
deleting this one entry.  Are there any 'g contacts' users
who might be able to help me ?

then we might all benefit.  The person with the problem will
almost certainly receive useful advice, and the rest of us
will be saved from having to try to guess to what utility
he/she is referring, and also be saved from having to guess
what he/she is really trying to accomplish.

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Re: g contacts

2013-11-15 Thread WaltS

On 11/15/2013 11:31 AM, Philip Taylor wrote:

connie.spar...@gmail.com wrote:


Many people in here are IT people or technically minded.  Not all of us
are.  I think that can result in those who aren't techies trying to
use geek speak and confusing the heck out of the techies, or just
not fully understanding the terminology.


Maybe, if rather than writing cryptic messages such as is their any way
to delete an account from g contacts sink, users could be
encouraged/educated/whatever to write along the lines of :

Hi.  I downloaded the 'g contacts' program from URL, and
I am trying to use it to synchronise my Gmail contacts with
my Seamonkey address book, but there is one particular contact
that I don't want to synchronise and I can find no way of
deleting this one entry.  Are there any 'g contacts' users
who might be able to help me ?

then we might all benefit.  The person with the problem will
almost certainly receive useful advice, and the rest of us
will be saved from having to try to guess to what utility
he/she is referring, and also be saved from having to guess
what he/she is really trying to accomplish.

Philip Taylor




Agreed, and responders like me should pay better attention to the 
posters UA.


Just noticed Bryan is posting with Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; 
rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 in a SeaMonkey support group.


I suspect Windows NT 6.3 is Win 8.1.

Well maybe his problem with SeaMonkey. Who knows?

I'm done here since I don't use Windows or Google. Just trying to be 
helpful.

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Re: Can't STAY logged in now - ????

2013-11-15 Thread Jay Garcia
On 15.11.2013 09:31, DoctorBill wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 Something has been changed in my Seamonkey - I have to
 log in each time I visit ALL web sites.
 
 Before this, when I went to my usual web site haunts,
 the system remembered and I went in 'Logged In'.
 i.e. - stay logged in checked.  Now that doesn't work.
 
 I did not change anything in the my Cookies are handled.
 
 Help, please.
 
 Bill

Remove cookies, then re-login to your sites and the info should be
remembered from now on.

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Re: File Help.... Moving

2013-11-15 Thread SamuelS

On 14-Nov-13 19:59, Ed Mullen wrote:

NO wrote:

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hello all, I Am running SM 2.22 on W8 desktop. Upon reviewing large
files on my C: drive, I find that my Roaming Mozilla file


Do you mean your Mozilla folders in your Roaming user profile?


is 42.27G.

Can someone explain to me what exactly this file is and how easy it is
to move to my d: drive?



Yes, but not easily.  Question is:  Why do you want to move it?




Ed,

Yes, I do mean that, sorry it was not clear in the original posting.

The reason I want to move it is, it is taking up 42g of drive space on a 
50g drive and I have 250g available on a second drive. Thinking it is a 
good use of space to move it over.


Thank you for your ?'s and input.

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Re: g contacts

2013-11-15 Thread Connie

On 15/11/2013 16:31, Philip Taylor wrote:

Maybe, if rather than writing cryptic messages such as is their any way
to delete an account from g contacts sink, users could be
encouraged/educated/whatever to write along the lines of :

Hi.  I downloaded the 'g contacts' program from URL, and
I am trying to use it to synchronise my Gmail contacts with
my Seamonkey address book, but there is one particular contact
that I don't want to synchronise and I can find no way of
deleting this one entry.  Are there any 'g contacts' users
who might be able to help me ?

then we might all benefit.  The person with the problem will
almost certainly receive useful advice, and the rest of us
will be saved from having to try to guess to what utility
he/she is referring, and also be saved from having to guess
what he/she is really trying to accomplish.


Very true but there could be a valid reason why someone has difficulty 
with language and why it isn't easy or possible for users [to] be 
encouraged/educated/whatever ...


You are at Royal Holloway, University of London, judging by your email 
address (staff perhaps?).  I have a degree level education.  It means 
both of us have a good command of English.  It's easy in those 
circumstances to be impatient with anyone who doesn't have the same 
command.  Yes, I would have been impatient too /but/ I have a son with 
ASD who has excellent spelling but a most convoluted way of speaking, 
especially when it's something he doesn't know how to describe.and a 
dyslexic dau who is very probably ASD too who has wayward spelling and 
lousy communication skills.  You'd probably have a hard time 
understanding either of them but it isn't really all that hard, not if 
you take the time with them.  Believe me it hurts knowing both 
struggle with language, to make sense of the world around them, and 
knowing my dau feels defeated because of attitudes towards her because 
of her lack of language ability.


There are many reasons why someone might struggle: ASD, dyslexia, 
stroke, age, non native speaker, and so on, or a combination of factors.


Please, people, be patient with those less skilled than yourself be it 
in IT, English, etc.


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Re: File Help.... Moving

2013-11-15 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
SamuelS wrote:

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 This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus
 protection is active.
 http://www.avast.com

Please search your Avast options for the place to turn off the insertion 
of the above spam. Thanks for your consideration. It's caused by your 
recently updated version, and it also has a malformed sig delimiter which 
causes it to be quoted by the unwary.

You do not need to scan outgoing email or news posts.
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm

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Re: Does not support UIDL or XTND XLST

2013-11-15 Thread NoOp
On 11/15/2013 01:56 AM, Neil wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 
Got this response:
Timestamp: 11/14/2013 03:32:42 PM
Error: TypeError: 
top.opener.msgWindow.openFolder.server.nsIPop3IncomingServer is undefined
Source File: javascript: 
top.opener.msgWindow.openFolder.server.nsIPop3IncomingServer.pop3CapabilityFlags
 |= 0x30;
Line: 1
  

 What does top.opener.msgWindow.openFolder.server.type say?
 

Arggh! Sorry, I accidentally closed SM from the error console
(File|Quit)  had to restart. I'll need to wait until the next occurance.

FWIW the above (now) shows nothing.

Also, with the failed account working again and
top.opener.msgWindow.openFolder.server.nsIPop3IncomingServer.pop3CapabilityFlags
  |= 0x30; I get:

When account 'inbox' selected:
(information) 138418

When account only is selected:
(error) Timestamp: 11/15/2013 09:37:34 AM
Error: TypeError: top.opener.msgWindow.openFolder is null
Source File:
javascript:%20top.opener.msgWindow.openFolder.server.nsIPop3IncomingServer.pop3CapabilityFlags%20%20%20%20%20%20%20|=%200x30;
Line: 1
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Re: Bookmark Recovery

2013-11-15 Thread Upscope
On Thursday, November 14, 2013 02:50:34 PM JohnW-Mpls wrote:
 On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 16:15:00 +0100, Jens Hatlak j...@junetz.de wrote:
 JohnW-Mpls wrote:
  Win XP  SM 2.20
  
  I have lots of bookmarks and yesterday I deleted a major directory
  by
  mistake and was not able recover it within SeaMonkey.  I looked in
  Help but did not learn what to do.
  
  The bookmarkbackups subdirectory implies that there is a
  SeaMonkey way to restore bookmarks.  But how?
 
 Open the Bookmarks Manager (Ctrl+B) and open the Restore menu below
 the Tools menu.
 
 The entries listed there equal the JSON files located in the
 bookmarkbackups directory inside the SM profile directory.
 
 Boy, just what I wanted - yesterday!  But thanks, I now know how for
 the next time.
 
  And where in Help?
 
 I fear that's not in Help. Help is outdated in many ways, including
 almost all changes related to Places (today's back-end for history
 and bookmarks).
 
 I thought that was the case.  I seldom like Help files anyways.
 
 
 However, this episode caused me to be unhappy with all the
 inappropriate files in my profile directory - so I launched into
 creating a new clean profile with just the good stuff in it.  
 Basically blowing a couple days for naught!  I just spent over hour
 setting my new preferences to match the old ones.   {grin}
 
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I just looked at the contents of BookMarksBackup. The files inside it 
show 0B content and are empty. The sane file saved to my external disk 
is shown as a text file and contains all the book marks.  Is this 
normal?

I tried both as owner and root(Admin in MS terms).

Thanks for any comments.

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Re: Can't STAY logged in now - ????

2013-11-15 Thread DoctorBill

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 15.11.2013 09:31, DoctorBill wrote:

  --- Original Message ---


Something has been changed in my Seamonkey - I have to
log in each time I visit ALL web sites.

Before this, when I went to my usual web site haunts,
the system remembered and I went in 'Logged In'.
i.e. - stay logged in checked.  Now that doesn't work.

I did not change anything in the my Cookies are handled.

Help, please.

Bill


Remove cookies, then re-login to your sites and the info should be
remembered from now on.



If I remove all cookies with the Windows Internet Options tool,
would that be OK ?

Bill


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Re: g contacts

2013-11-15 Thread Bryan v. Roache

On 11/15/2013 1:03 PM, Philip Taylor wrote:


Connie wrote:


Please, people, be patient with those less skilled than yourself be it
in IT, English, etc.

I do not believe that I have manifested any impatience.

I have (a) agreed with Ray that the original message was
impenetrable; (b) asked the person who posted the original
message to re-express him/herself more clearly; and (c)
suggested that if we could encourage/educate/whatever all
users to ask questions in such as way as to facilitate
those questions being answered, all would benefit.  None
of those are a sign of impatience; rather, they are
indicative of a clear desire to be able to help.

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can we please let this go? i just wanted help with g contacts.
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Re: Lightning 2.7b1 TB 26b1

2013-11-15 Thread WaltS

On 11/15/2013 01:05 PM, sean nathan wrote:

WaltS wrote, On 11/15/2013 07:57 AM:

On 11/15/2013 09:36 AM, sean nathan wrote:

WaltS wrote, On 11/14/2013 08:22 PM:

WaltS wrote:

On 11/14/2013 10:11 PM, sean nathan wrote:

WaltS wrote, On 11/14/2013 10:32 AM:

On 11/14/2013 12:18 PM, Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:

Lightning 2.7b1 seems to be doing ok with TB 25b but not some much
with TB 26b.

- Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]




You probably need Lightning 2.8b1 which I only see a candidate build
for. I'd wait for it to appear on AMO under View other versions.

BTW this is the SeaMonkey support group. :)


at least OP gave me a heads up that there is a newer version of
Lightning than the 2.6b2 that is no longer working in my version
of SM
2.22... now where to find it is my next mission...






For SeaMonkey 2.22 you need Lightning 2.6.2.



I mean Lightning 2.7b1.

Updated SM and forgot to check Lightning.



yes... but my aging brain is failing me as yet I've found no place with
a newer version than 2.6b2... and I can't recollect what AMO stands
for...

sean



addons.mozilla.org

Lightning 2.7.b1 can be found here.

[Lightning :: Versions :: Add-ons for
Thunderbird](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/lightning/versions/?page=1#version-2.7b1)



Also Lightning 2.8b1 for SeaMonkey 2.23b1 and Thunderbird 26.0b1 is now
available.

[Lightning :: Versions :: Add-ons for
Thunderbird](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/lightning/versions/?page=1#version-2.8b1)




must be going blind, it wasn't there when i searched for it yesterday...
nor does it appear when i type lighting into the addons search panel...
which is extremely aggravating...





Using the addons search panel is only going to find the current official 
release version for Thunderbird 24.1.0. You have to click the View 
other versions link on that page.


This Works with Thunderbird 24.1.0 - 24.1.0-View other versions could 
be in a larger font so it is more discoverable.



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Re: g contacts

2013-11-15 Thread WaltS

On 11/15/2013 01:18 PM, Bryan v. Roache wrote:

On 11/15/2013 1:03 PM, Philip Taylor wrote:


Connie wrote:


Please, people, be patient with those less skilled than yourself be it
in IT, English, etc.

I do not believe that I have manifested any impatience.

I have (a) agreed with Ray that the original message was
impenetrable; (b) asked the person who posted the original
message to re-express him/herself more clearly; and (c)
suggested that if we could encourage/educate/whatever all
users to ask questions in such as way as to facilitate
those questions being answered, all would benefit.  None
of those are a sign of impatience; rather, they are
indicative of a clear desire to be able to help.

Philiip Taylor



can we please let this go? i just wanted help with g contacts.



We still have no idea what that means.

Did you find any help?

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Re: Can't STAY logged in now - ????

2013-11-15 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

DoctorBill wrote:

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 15.11.2013 09:31, DoctorBill wrote:

  --- Original Message ---


Something has been changed in my Seamonkey - I have to
log in each time I visit ALL web sites.

Before this, when I went to my usual web site haunts,
the system remembered and I went in 'Logged In'.
i.e. - stay logged in checked.  Now that doesn't work.

I did not change anything in the my Cookies are handled.

Help, please.

Bill


Remove cookies, then re-login to your sites and the info should be
remembered from now on.



If I remove all cookies with the Windows Internet Options tool,
would that be OK ?


OK but ineffectual. The Windows tool only removes cookies stored by 
Internet Explorer.


For SeaMonkey cookies, there are two ways:

1) The hard way: open Cookie Manager and for each site listed, delete 
them by hand;


2) The easy way (two-step process):

a) Edit | Preferences | Privacy  Security | Private Data: make sure 
Cookies is checked;


b) From a browser window, Tools | Clear Private Data or Ctrl-Shift-Del.


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Re: Create message filter from Subject: field ?

2013-11-15 Thread Larry S.

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Philip Taylor wrote:



Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


It's there, but not indexed. Look under Monitoring Threads.


Thank you, Paul.  Under Monitoring threads, I am told :


Select a message in the thread.
   Open the Message menu, and choose Ignore Thread. SeaMonkey Mail
  Newsgroups marks all messages in the thread as read, and new
replies
 posted to the thread will appear as read.


Selecting (for example) your message and clicking Message
offers no such option; the only possibly relevant option
is Create filter from message   Neither Watch thread
nor Ignore thread are offered as options.


On my system, under the menu item Message, way down at the bottom, the
18th item I see is Ignore Thread, K.

If it helps any, this is not on the context menu (right-click), it's on
the regular menu at the top of the window. It's two below Create filter
from message.

I, too, see the Ignore Thread option, but every time I try this (per 
the help suggestion) that option is greyed out. What am I doing wrong?


All help appreciated.

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Re: Can't STAY logged in now - ????

2013-11-15 Thread DoctorBill

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 15.11.2013 09:31, DoctorBill wrote:

  --- Original Message ---


Something has been changed in my Seamonkey - I have to
log in each time I visit ALL web sites.

Before this, when I went to my usual web site haunts,
the system remembered and I went in 'Logged In'.
i.e. - stay logged in checked.  Now that doesn't work.

I did not change anything in the my Cookies are handled.

Help, please.

Bill


Remove cookies, then re-login to your sites and the info should be
remembered from now on.



If I remove all cookies with the Windows Internet Options tool,
would that be OK ?


OK but ineffectual. The Windows tool only removes cookies stored by
Internet Explorer.

For SeaMonkey cookies, there are two ways:

1) The hard way: open Cookie Manager and for each site listed, delete
them by hand;

2) The easy way (two-step process):

a) Edit | Preferences | Privacy  Security | Private Data: make sure
Cookies is checked;

b) From a browser window, Tools | Clear Private Data or Ctrl-Shift-Del.




OMG - I did the Easy Way - went to Edit|Prefs|ps and clicked the 
Cookies box.  Was not checked before that.

Above that list was a Clear data Now - so I clicked it.
My HD light came on for maybe 60 - 90 seconds !
Then a window came up and said a Script was running, so I chose to stop it.
Then the HD light came back on for another 60 -120 seconds before it 
petered out.


My system has a 3 GHz CPU and that was a LONG TIME for it to be doing 
something !


Haven't tried SM yetgoing to now.Pray.

Bill

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Re: No spellcheck in SM's composers's subject line?

2013-11-15 Thread Ray Davison

Ant wrote:

Body gets checked, but not its Subject form? Or did I miss something?


I don't think there ever has been.  Type the subject in the body, 
chk/edit, cut and paste to the subject line.


And when you cannot get close enough for spell check to determine what 
word you are trying to spell, start a Google search for the word.


Ray


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Re: g contacts

2013-11-15 Thread Ray_Net

Bryan v. Roache wrote, On 15/11/2013 19:18:

On 11/15/2013 1:03 PM, Philip Taylor wrote:


Connie wrote:


Please, people, be patient with those less skilled than yourself be it
in IT, English, etc.

I do not believe that I have manifested any impatience.

I have (a) agreed with Ray that the original message was
impenetrable; (b) asked the person who posted the original
message to re-express him/herself more clearly; and (c)
suggested that if we could encourage/educate/whatever all
users to ask questions in such as way as to facilitate
those questions being answered, all would benefit.  None
of those are a sign of impatience; rather, they are
indicative of a clear desire to be able to help.

Philiip Taylor
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can we please let this go? i just wanted help with g contacts.

What is g contacts ?
This thing ? - http://sourceforge.net/projects/gocontactsync/

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Re: Can't STAY logged in now - ????

2013-11-15 Thread WaltS

DoctorBill wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 15.11.2013 09:31, DoctorBill wrote:

  --- Original Message ---


Something has been changed in my Seamonkey - I have to
log in each time I visit ALL web sites.

Before this, when I went to my usual web site haunts,
the system remembered and I went in 'Logged In'.
i.e. - stay logged in checked.  Now that doesn't work.

I did not change anything in the my Cookies are handled.

Help, please.

Bill


Remove cookies, then re-login to your sites and the info should be
remembered from now on.



If I remove all cookies with the Windows Internet Options tool,
would that be OK ?


OK but ineffectual. The Windows tool only removes cookies stored by
Internet Explorer.

For SeaMonkey cookies, there are two ways:

1) The hard way: open Cookie Manager and for each site listed, delete
them by hand;

2) The easy way (two-step process):

a) Edit | Preferences | Privacy  Security | Private Data: make sure
Cookies is checked;

b) From a browser window, Tools | Clear Private Data or Ctrl-Shift-Del.




OMG - I did the Easy Way - went to Edit|Prefs|ps and clicked the
Cookies box.  Was not checked before that.
Above that list was a Clear data Now - so I clicked it.
My HD light came on for maybe 60 - 90 seconds !
Then a window came up and said a Script was running, so I chose to stop it.
Then the HD light came back on for another 60 -120 seconds before it
petered out.

My system has a 3 GHz CPU and that was a LONG TIME for it to be doing
something !

Haven't tried SM yetgoing to now.Pray.

Bill




OK. Disregard the previous post.

Now that I have changed my Cookie settings from Accept for current 
session only to Accept cookies normally, I stay logged into Yahoo.


I also have Allow third-party cookies for previously visited websites 
only selected.


Edit  Preferences  Privacy and Security  Cookies

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Re: Bookmark Recovery

2013-11-15 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Fri, 15 Nov 2013 09:44:29 -0800, Upscope upsc...@nwi.net wrote:

On Thursday, November 14, 2013 02:50:34 PM JohnW-Mpls wrote:
 On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 16:15:00 +0100, Jens Hatlak j...@junetz.de wrote:
 JohnW-Mpls wrote:
  Win XP  SM 2.20

 
 However, this episode caused me to be unhappy with all the
 inappropriate files in my profile directory - so I launched into
 creating a new clean profile with just the good stuff in it.  
 Basically blowing a couple days for naught!  I just spent over hour
 setting my new preferences to match the old ones.   {grin}
 
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I just looked at the contents of BookMarksBackup. The files inside it 
show 0B content and are empty. The sane file saved to my external disk 
is shown as a text file and contains all the book marks.  Is this 
normal?

I tried both as owner and root(Admin in MS terms).

Thanks for any comments.

Russ

My bookmarkbackups directory in my proflie has about 10 files and all are
filled with characters -  each about 460KB in size.

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Re: Can't STAY logged in now - ????

2013-11-15 Thread JAS
WaltS wrote:
 DoctorBill wrote:
 Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 DoctorBill wrote:
 Jay Garcia wrote:
 On 15.11.2013 09:31, DoctorBill wrote:

   --- Original Message ---

 Something has been changed in my Seamonkey - I have to
 log in each time I visit ALL web sites.

 Before this, when I went to my usual web site haunts,
 the system remembered and I went in 'Logged In'.
 i.e. - stay logged in checked.  Now that doesn't work.

 I did not change anything in the my Cookies are handled.

 Help, please.

 Bill

 Remove cookies, then re-login to your sites and the info should be
 remembered from now on.


 If I remove all cookies with the Windows Internet Options tool,
 would that be OK ?

 OK but ineffectual. The Windows tool only removes cookies stored by
 Internet Explorer.

 For SeaMonkey cookies, there are two ways:

 1) The hard way: open Cookie Manager and for each site listed, delete
 them by hand;

 2) The easy way (two-step process):

 a) Edit | Preferences | Privacy  Security | Private Data: make sure
 Cookies is checked;

 b) From a browser window, Tools | Clear Private Data or Ctrl-Shift-Del.



 OMG - I did the Easy Way - went to Edit|Prefs|ps and clicked the
 Cookies box.  Was not checked before that.
 Above that list was a Clear data Now - so I clicked it.
 My HD light came on for maybe 60 - 90 seconds !
 Then a window came up and said a Script was running, so I chose to
 stop it.
 Then the HD light came back on for another 60 -120 seconds before it
 petered out.

 My system has a 3 GHz CPU and that was a LONG TIME for it to be doing
 something !

 Haven't tried SM yetgoing to now.Pray.

 Bill



 OK. Disregard the previous post.

 Now that I have changed my Cookie settings from Accept for current
 session only to Accept cookies normally, I stay logged into Yahoo.

 I also have Allow third-party cookies for previously visited websites
 only selected.

 Edit  Preferences  Privacy and Security  Cookies

I have 3 yahoo accounts and have it set to accept cookies normally and
am using SM 2.2.21. I never have the box checked to stay logged in but I
just double click on the username box and it brings up the three
accounts in a drop down box, I pick one and it inserts the password and
I am good to go--been this way for a long time.

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Re: Bookmark Recovery

2013-11-15 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Fri, 15 Nov 2013 19:40:49 +0800, Philip Chee philip.c...@gmail.com
wrote:

On 14/11/2013 23:15, Jens Hatlak wrote:
 JohnW-Mpls wrote:
 Win XP  SM 2.20

 I have lots of bookmarks and yesterday I deleted a major directory by
 mistake and was not able recover it within SeaMonkey.  I looked in Help but
 did not learn what to do.


 I fear that's not in Help. Help is outdated in many ways, including 
 almost all changes related to Places (today's back-end for history and 
 bookmarks).

And if you want to help contribute to SeaMonkey but aren't a programmer,
you could help us by adding or updating our help files.

Phil

Boy, there's a challenge!  Tempting: I'm experienced in interfacing between
people and tech - but I have never thought about Help files.   Where would a
person even start thinking about it?  What overall mental posture is needed?

My goodness, I'm one of those that never looks at the Table Of Contents in
the front of the book but go right to the Index in the back!!!

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Re: Can't STAY logged in now - ????

2013-11-15 Thread WaltS

On 11/15/2013 08:54 PM, JAS wrote:

WaltS wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 15.11.2013 09:31, DoctorBill wrote:

   --- Original Message ---


Something has been changed in my Seamonkey - I have to
log in each time I visit ALL web sites.

Before this, when I went to my usual web site haunts,
the system remembered and I went in 'Logged In'.
i.e. - stay logged in checked.  Now that doesn't work.

I did not change anything in the my Cookies are handled.

Help, please.

Bill


Remove cookies, then re-login to your sites and the info should be
remembered from now on.



If I remove all cookies with the Windows Internet Options tool,
would that be OK ?


OK but ineffectual. The Windows tool only removes cookies stored by
Internet Explorer.

For SeaMonkey cookies, there are two ways:

1) The hard way: open Cookie Manager and for each site listed, delete
them by hand;

2) The easy way (two-step process):

a) Edit | Preferences | Privacy  Security | Private Data: make sure
Cookies is checked;

b) From a browser window, Tools | Clear Private Data or Ctrl-Shift-Del.




OMG - I did the Easy Way - went to Edit|Prefs|ps and clicked the
Cookies box.  Was not checked before that.
Above that list was a Clear data Now - so I clicked it.
My HD light came on for maybe 60 - 90 seconds !
Then a window came up and said a Script was running, so I chose to
stop it.
Then the HD light came back on for another 60 -120 seconds before it
petered out.

My system has a 3 GHz CPU and that was a LONG TIME for it to be doing
something !

Haven't tried SM yetgoing to now.Pray.

Bill




OK. Disregard the previous post.

Now that I have changed my Cookie settings from Accept for current
session only to Accept cookies normally, I stay logged into Yahoo.

I also have Allow third-party cookies for previously visited websites
only selected.

Edit  Preferences  Privacy and Security  Cookies


I have 3 yahoo accounts and have it set to accept cookies normally and
am using SM 2.2.21. I never have the box checked to stay logged in but I
just double click on the username box and it brings up the three
accounts in a drop down box, I pick one and it inserts the password and
I am good to go--been this way for a long time.




Not to drift to far off topic, but do you have any password extensions 
installed?


SM 2.22 does not ask to remember my Yahoo password, and I am just trying 
to assist DoctorBill.

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Re: Can't STAY logged in now - ????

2013-11-15 Thread JAS
WaltS wrote:
 On 11/15/2013 08:54 PM, JAS wrote:
 WaltS wrote:
 DoctorBill wrote:
 Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 DoctorBill wrote:
 Jay Garcia wrote:
 On 15.11.2013 09:31, DoctorBill wrote:

--- Original Message ---

 Something has been changed in my Seamonkey - I have to
 log in each time I visit ALL web sites.

 Before this, when I went to my usual web site haunts,
 the system remembered and I went in 'Logged In'.
 i.e. - stay logged in checked.  Now that doesn't work.

 I did not change anything in the my Cookies are handled.

 Help, please.

 Bill

 Remove cookies, then re-login to your sites and the info should be
 remembered from now on.


 If I remove all cookies with the Windows Internet Options tool,
 would that be OK ?

 OK but ineffectual. The Windows tool only removes cookies stored by
 Internet Explorer.

 For SeaMonkey cookies, there are two ways:

 1) The hard way: open Cookie Manager and for each site listed, delete
 them by hand;

 2) The easy way (two-step process):

 a) Edit | Preferences | Privacy  Security | Private Data: make sure
 Cookies is checked;

 b) From a browser window, Tools | Clear Private Data or
 Ctrl-Shift-Del.



 OMG - I did the Easy Way - went to Edit|Prefs|ps and clicked the
 Cookies box.  Was not checked before that.
 Above that list was a Clear data Now - so I clicked it.
 My HD light came on for maybe 60 - 90 seconds !
 Then a window came up and said a Script was running, so I chose to
 stop it.
 Then the HD light came back on for another 60 -120 seconds before it
 petered out.

 My system has a 3 GHz CPU and that was a LONG TIME for it to be doing
 something !

 Haven't tried SM yetgoing to now.Pray.

 Bill



 OK. Disregard the previous post.

 Now that I have changed my Cookie settings from Accept for current
 session only to Accept cookies normally, I stay logged into Yahoo.

 I also have Allow third-party cookies for previously visited websites
 only selected.

 Edit  Preferences  Privacy and Security  Cookies

 I have 3 yahoo accounts and have it set to accept cookies normally and
 am using SM 2.2.21. I never have the box checked to stay logged in but I
 just double click on the username box and it brings up the three
 accounts in a drop down box, I pick one and it inserts the password and
 I am good to go--been this way for a long time.



 Not to drift to far off topic, but do you have any password extensions
 installed?

 SM 2.22 does not ask to remember my Yahoo password, and I am just
 trying to assist DoctorBill.
I have no password extensions--at one time it must have asked to save
the passwords.

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Re: Create message filter from Subject: field ?

2013-11-15 Thread Geoff Welsh

Philip Taylor wrote:



Geoff Welsh wrote:


because that's what Ignore Thread does, its blocks posts with the
subject you don't like..


There is no entry for Ignore in the Seamonkey Help system.
Where in the menu system is Ignore thread to be found, please ?

Philip Taylor


its under Message, toward the bottom.  The keyboard shortcut is K
(for KILL this thread ). It won't delete headers already shown, unless 
you switch to another newsgroup and then come back, but it will stop any 
more headers from downloading.


GW
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Re: Can't STAY logged in now - ????

2013-11-15 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

WaltS wrote:


On 11/15/2013 07:38 PM, DoctorBill wrote:


Nope - it is still doing the same thing, even after clearing the Cookies
all out and I have allow cookies from this web site toggled
(http://us.mg5.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?).

Has something been changed all across the Internet ?


Nothing has changed across the Internet.

Don't know about your other haunts, but I see the same behavior with
Yahoo using SM 2.22, and I have a clean profile.

I enter my Yahoo ID, password, check Keep me signed in, and on restart
I have to repeat the process.

Probably because SeaMonkey doesn't ask me if I want to remember the
Username and PW. What is up with that? OK. SM asks me to save PW on
another site.

It keeps me logged in if I navigate to other sites and come back to Yahoo.

I don't clear any private data when closing SeaMonkey.

Yahoo seems to be the problem. Not SeaMonkey.


As noted elsewhere in this thread, if you allow only session cookies, 
then SeaMonkey will wipe them at the end of the session (when you close 
SM). That's what session cookies means.


If you want cookies to persist from session to session, you have to 
change your cookie prefs:


Edit | Preferences | Privacy  Security | Cookies
...
Cookie retention policy
[x] Accept cookies normally
[ ] Accept for current session only

While you're there, go to Edit | Preferences | Privacy  Security | 
Passwords. If remember passwords is checked, all is well because SM 
will remember passwords for all sites that you don't explicitly exclude. 
If the box is not checked, yahoo must be an exception to the ban (see 
below).


So if what you want is to be prompted to login with stored passwords at 
the beginning of each session, stick with session cookies and tell SM to 
remember your username and password:


Tools | Password Manager | Manage Stored Passwords

This opens the Data Manager to the Passwords tab. In the search window 
(Search Domains) type yahoo (without the quotes) and see if there's 
a record. If so, click Show Passwords at the lower right and confirm 
that the username and password listed are correct. If not, delete the 
record for yahoo.com so SM will have to ask the next time you login.


While you're in the Data Manager, choose Permissions only from the 
pull-down list right above the search window. As before, search for 
yahoo. You should see one of two things:


1) an entry on the right that looks like this:
yahoo.com Save Passwords (•) Allow

2) no entry.

If your default above was not to save passwords but you see allow 
here, all is well (yahoo is an exception to the ban). And if your 
default above was to save passwords, and you see nothing here, then 
yahoo will obey the default and save passwords; again, all is well.


There would only be a problem if:

a) your default is to save passwords but the Permissions for yahoo say 
Never save. In this case, select the rule and click Remove to delete 
that ban and let yahoo follow the default;


b) your default is not to save passwords and yahoo is not listed as an 
exception. In this case, click Add, Set cookies, Add to create an 
exception for yahoo to Allow. Note that when you first add a rule, 
Use default is checked; you must select one of the options on the 
right to make an exception.


HTH

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Re: Another SM 2.22 problem with drawing sub-screens

2013-11-15 Thread Daniel

Daniel wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/13/2013 4:09 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/13/2013 5:33 AM, Daniel wrote:

As noted in my sig, I'm using SM 2.22, more specifically B2 (waiting
for
2.23B1 to come out), and even more specifically, on my Win7 install,
I've noted something that I don't recall anyone else mentioning. (I
cannot say I've noticed it on my Linux SM 2.22B2 installation.)

At Edit-Preferences-Appearance-Spelling, I have selected to Check
spelling before sending, no problem, except if an error in spelling is
found (rare though that may be ... NOT ;-) ), the Send button is cut
in half by the bottom edge of that window. There is no scroll bar, nor
can I just drag the bottom edge of this screen down.

This may be tied up with a problem I've seen reported here (by MCBasto
or Rufus, I think) for a while with SeaMonkey not fully drawing
sub-screens on Mac's or another problem reported here regarding the
font/line spacing in the Accounts and Threads Panes in SM 2.22. Don't
know, but maybe!!

Anybody else seeing this problem??



I have also seen this in Thunderbird.




If you can put your cursor on the title bar of the Spell Check window
and drag it just a little bit, the entire window might display.  At
lease that is what happens in Thunderbird.



O.K., when next I'm in Win7, I'll try to remember this suggestion, David.


CFBHHNvvg

O.K., I typed that garbage and pressed Send and, surprise, surprise, 
the, partly drawn, Spell Check window came up. I dragged it a smidge and 
the whole screen displayed.


Now to see if it stays!!

Nope!! The part drawn screen re-appeared!!

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 Build identifier: 20131023190953

or

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 Build identifier: 20131023190942

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Re: Another SM 2.22 problem with drawing sub-screens

2013-11-15 Thread Rufus

Daniel wrote:

Daniel wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/13/2013 4:09 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/13/2013 5:33 AM, Daniel wrote:

As noted in my sig, I'm using SM 2.22, more specifically B2 (waiting
for
2.23B1 to come out), and even more specifically, on my Win7 install,
I've noted something that I don't recall anyone else mentioning. (I
cannot say I've noticed it on my Linux SM 2.22B2 installation.)

At Edit-Preferences-Appearance-Spelling, I have selected to Check
spelling before sending, no problem, except if an error in
spelling is
found (rare though that may be ... NOT ;-) ), the Send button is cut
in half by the bottom edge of that window. There is no scroll bar, nor
can I just drag the bottom edge of this screen down.

This may be tied up with a problem I've seen reported here (by MCBasto
or Rufus, I think) for a while with SeaMonkey not fully drawing
sub-screens on Mac's or another problem reported here regarding the
font/line spacing in the Accounts and Threads Panes in SM 2.22. Don't
know, but maybe!!

Anybody else seeing this problem??



I have also seen this in Thunderbird.




If you can put your cursor on the title bar of the Spell Check window
and drag it just a little bit, the entire window might display.  At
lease that is what happens in Thunderbird.



O.K., when next I'm in Win7, I'll try to remember this suggestion, David.


CFBHHNvvg

O.K., I typed that garbage and pressed Send and, surprise, surprise,
the, partly drawn, Spell Check window came up. I dragged it a smidge and
the whole screen displayed.

Now to see if it stays!!

Nope!! The part drawn screen re-appeared!!



I first noticed it in the Master Password dialog on the Mac in all 
releases after 2.13.2 and submitted bug 817318 against SM 2.14.1, but 
it's been resolved/closed as a duplicate - and it's still broken.  The 
duplicate bug is bug 812050, and is also written against the Mac version 
(as I submitted) but appears to be a bit more broad in scope.


Now more and more people appear to also be seeing this in the Win 
version and in more places than I've seen the problem - I still only see 
it with the Master Password request in the Mac version of SM 2.22.  I've 
never tried to drag the box open farther...I'll see if I can even do that.


To get around the problem I've halted at SM 2.13.2 on the machines I use 
most.


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