Re: Funding and Bug Fixes....

2013-11-29 Thread Daniel

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Daniel wrote:

O.K., been to
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/2.18b1-candidates/build1/

but no x86_64 builds or even WOW64 builds showing.


First of all, the directory you cited is wrong. That's for old SM 2.18
Beta 1 builds. The correct directory for current SM trunk nightlies is:

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/


Second, x86_64 builds are only provided for Linux. But as I already
said, there are currently no recent Linux nightly builds available
whatsoever.

Third, AFAIK WOW64 refers to the layer that provides the ability to run
32-bit software on 64-Windows. On 64-bit Windows versions you can just
run normal 32-bit SM versions.

HTH

Jens

Jens, the reason I was looking for SM 2.18B1 was that I was not 
experiencing this problem when I was on one of the 2.18Betas, so figured 
I'd go back there and work my way up through the Betas/Nightlies until 
the problem did occur!!


Jens, do you mean that the nightly release isn't one, continuing, ever 
evolving, codebase, with regular (six weekly) Alpha-Beta-Final 
releases off-shoots??


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Re: Funding and Bug Fixes....

2013-11-29 Thread Daniel

Rufus wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Philip Chee wrote:

On 26/11/2013 05:55, Rufus wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:



Frankly, it seems the issue could be resolved simply by remembering
the
last window position instead of pegging the window in the upper left
corner of the screen.  Thus, if, as I usually do when annoyed by such
window positioning, I move the window to a more pleasing position, it
would forever be not a problem.

And, yes, I get that some dev decided that shoving the window up
there
would keep it out of the way of the compose window that is being
spell-checked.  I disagree.  My visual focus needs to be on the
spell-check window:  That's where the info is that I need to deal
with,
not in the compose window.  If I need to refer to the compose
window I
am smart enough to be able to move the spell-check window if it is
(doubtful in my config) obscuring the compose window.


The truth is rather more mundane. Back in 2002 someone noticed that the
spellcheck sub-window was always stuck in the upper left corner of the
screen. So he fixed it. Or rather he attempted to fix it but didn't
check if his fix worked or not. See line 47 of the folllowing link:

http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsblame.cgi?file=mozilla/editor/ui/dialogs/content/EdSpellCheck.xulrev=1.63mark=47#40




I'm in the process of fixing this as part of Bug 942548. See the second
half of Bug 942548 Comment #2 for more details.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=942548#c2

Phil



How did it come to pass that this is a Window on the Win version and a
drop-dialog on the Mac version?  I'm not seeing a problem with the Spell
Check drop on the Mac version.


Given that we're talking about Mac v Windows and Drop=down v window, it
would be interesting to find out if the Mac Download Manager problem is
with a Drop-down or window and if the Windows Spell Checker problem is
with a Drop-down or window??



I don't regularly use the Download Manager, but I took a quick look and
don't see any particular issue there...are others seeing a problem?

One thing I can add though, is that when I encounter the random Master
Password dialog and it comes up in a window like the Download Progress
dialog vise a drop, is is still drawn short.  I'm not sure how this is
all implemented, but the error appears to stick with the drop/window
it's encountered in no matter how it's presented.

Sorry, my mistake, I meant Master Password sub-screen rather than 
Download Manager!!


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Re: Funding and Bug Fixes....

2013-11-29 Thread Daniel

Trane Francks wrote:

On 11/28/13 6:23 PM +0900, Daniel wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Philip Chee wrote:

On 26/11/2013 05:55, Rufus wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:



Frankly, it seems the issue could be resolved simply by
remembering the
last window position instead of pegging the window in the upper left
corner of the screen.  Thus, if, as I usually do when annoyed by such
window positioning, I move the window to a more pleasing position, it
would forever be not a problem.

And, yes, I get that some dev decided that shoving the window up
there
would keep it out of the way of the compose window that is being
spell-checked.  I disagree.  My visual focus needs to be on the
spell-check window:  That's where the info is that I need to deal
with,
not in the compose window.  If I need to refer to the compose
window I
am smart enough to be able to move the spell-check window if it is
(doubtful in my config) obscuring the compose window.


The truth is rather more mundane. Back in 2002 someone noticed that the
spellcheck sub-window was always stuck in the upper left corner of the
screen. So he fixed it. Or rather he attempted to fix it but didn't
check if his fix worked or not. See line 47 of the folllowing link:

http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsblame.cgi?file=mozilla/editor/ui/dialogs/content/EdSpellCheck.xulrev=1.63mark=47#40



I'm in the process of fixing this as part of Bug 942548. See the second
half of Bug 942548 Comment #2 for more details.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=942548#c2

Phil



How did it come to pass that this is a Window on the Win version and a
drop-dialog on the Mac version?  I'm not seeing a problem with the Spell
Check drop on the Mac version.


Given that we're talking about Mac v Windows and Drop=down v window, it
would be interesting to find out if the Mac Download Manager problem is
with a Drop-down or window and if the Windows Spell Checker problem is
with a Drop-down or window??


What is the problem with the Download Manager on OS X? I have seen no
issue with it. FWIW, the Download Manager is a window, not a drop-down
dialogue box.


See my response to Rufus.

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Re: Funding and Bug Fixes....

2013-11-29 Thread Trane Francks

On 11/29/13 7:27 PM +0900, Daniel wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:

On 11/28/13 6:23 PM +0900, Daniel wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Philip Chee wrote:

On 26/11/2013 05:55, Rufus wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:



Frankly, it seems the issue could be resolved simply by
remembering the
last window position instead of pegging the window in the upper left
corner of the screen.  Thus, if, as I usually do when annoyed by such
window positioning, I move the window to a more pleasing position, it
would forever be not a problem.

And, yes, I get that some dev decided that shoving the window up
there
would keep it out of the way of the compose window that is being
spell-checked.  I disagree.  My visual focus needs to be on the
spell-check window:  That's where the info is that I need to deal
with,
not in the compose window.  If I need to refer to the compose
window I
am smart enough to be able to move the spell-check window if it is
(doubtful in my config) obscuring the compose window.


The truth is rather more mundane. Back in 2002 someone noticed that the
spellcheck sub-window was always stuck in the upper left corner of the
screen. So he fixed it. Or rather he attempted to fix it but didn't
check if his fix worked or not. See line 47 of the folllowing link:

http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsblame.cgi?file=mozilla/editor/ui/dialogs/content/EdSpellCheck.xulrev=1.63mark=47#40



I'm in the process of fixing this as part of Bug 942548. See the second
half of Bug 942548 Comment #2 for more details.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=942548#c2

Phil



How did it come to pass that this is a Window on the Win version and a
drop-dialog on the Mac version?  I'm not seeing a problem with the Spell
Check drop on the Mac version.


Given that we're talking about Mac v Windows and Drop=down v window, it
would be interesting to find out if the Mac Download Manager problem is
with a Drop-down or window and if the Windows Spell Checker problem is
with a Drop-down or window??


What is the problem with the Download Manager on OS X? I have seen no
issue with it. FWIW, the Download Manager is a window, not a drop-down
dialogue box.


See my response to Rufus.


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Re: 2.22.1 Install nag: Did not install.....!!

2013-11-29 Thread Daniel

azed13 wrote:

Daniel wrote:

azed13 wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:


Snip


That is what I have been seeing, not with installs but generally.
It is
sporadic, about 1/4 of the time.

See the thread SeaMonkey Shutdown (started 25 Nov 2013) in this
newsgroup.


Thanks David:

I read the thread but I'm not sure it is of any help. My system has been
shut down for almost 24 hours yet after booting up for a new session, I
still got the nag when I opened Seamonkey. I'm not a programmer or
code wise but it seems improbable that Seamonkey was running while
everything was shut down without power. And, I'm not much for creating
new profiles. It's been years since the last time I did that and it was
a horrible experience including recovering all my mail and bookmark
files. Why that happened I don't know but at this stage I'm really much
too old to risk what works well for everything else. I'll keep an eye on
that thread to see if anything else pops up.

azed13


O.K., azed, is it possibly that just before you did the update/install,
you had a problem with Windows/SeaMonkey which caused Windows to
shutdown?? If so, it is possible that the previously running SeaMonkey
process had written a file to your disk drive to stop you starting
another (second) instance of SeaMonkey. If SM had closed normally, this
file would have been erased.

The file is called something like parent.lock. With SM completely closed
(including the quickstart function if you have it set up), do a Windows
Find File or Folder looking for parent.*, then in Windows Explorer
(making sure you ha Windows Explorer set up to display hidden folders),
go to that location and delete parent.lock.

Report back.


Daniel:

I can't recall ever having a Windows shutdown while using Seamonkey.
BTW, I apologize for not stating that I am on Windows 7 Pro, X64 service
pack 1. I did a search  anyway and found 43 files with some variation of
parent buried in them. None were in any Seamonkey folder and the
newest one is dated January 2013. This is long before the problem
started. I still get the nag at each start of Seamonkey and the message
seems to indicate that the auto-update install file is somewhere in my
system and still trying to install 2.22.1 which I have done manually.

Oops! I missed the instruction to search with Seamonkey closed. I will
search again and report back if the results are any different. Per my
original query, I would still be interested in where that auto install
file is located.

azed13
azed, I think the auto-install files having an ending something like 
.mac, so if someone were to post the correct ending, you could do a 
Windows search for it and delete it.


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Re: Cannot E-mail pictures from Picasa with newest S.M. update. How to fix?

2013-11-29 Thread Daniel

Mort wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Mort wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Mort wrote:

Since updating to the newest S.M., I cannot e-mail pictures from
Picasa.
When I try, the S.M. home page comes up, instead of the compose page.
All the settings are correct in Picasa.


That's likely the MAPI regression introduced in SM 2.22. This might be
fixed in SM 2.23, but we will only know for sure once SM 2.23 Beta 1 is
released and receives some testing.

HTH

Jens



Hi Jens,

Thanks for your reply.

How can I go about getting the most recent older version of S/M. back,
without losing any of my data?  I have literally thousands of edited and
corrected photos in Picasa on that P.C., and not being able to e-mail
them is a big problem.

Thanks again,

Mort Linder

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Mort, on a different take, when you start SeaMonkey, have you set it up
to just open the browser or is the e-mail screen opened as well??


Hi Daniel,

When SeaMonkey starts, it opens just the browser. If I need the e-mail
screen, then I click onto the mail icon.

My problem is that heretofore I could e-mail pix from Picasa with no
problems,as clicking on that Picasa e-mail icon resulted in a compose
screen appearing with the pic as an attachment. Now, with the newest
S.M., I do not get that compose screen, only the S.M. home page. On my
older P.C. with the superseded S.M., it works well, but that P.C. has
very few of my pix. I really need to fix my newer P.C. to once more send
pix.

Thanks .

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the new computer or the old??


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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-29 Thread Ant

On 11/28/2013 8:49 PM PT, Rufus typed:
...
 slow your mouse/trackpad down.  I view text only for the buttons and

have no problem

GW


...and screw up how everything else that works just fine on my machine
works?  No thanks...I'd like real buttons back.


I wonder if there is a way to slow the pointer down only for SeaMonkey 
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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-29 Thread Geoff Welsh

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:


I do miss the windows themselves having a (drawn) border like the olden
days but that's not just a SM thing.
GW


I miss the dialog buttons being big enough to target.



slow your mouse/trackpad down. I view text only for the buttons and
have no problem

GW


...and screw up how everything else that works just fine on my machine
works? No thanks...I'd like real buttons back.



How is clicking on the p in Reply harder than clicking the center of 
a rectangle?


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Re: plugin finder for Flash - failed

2013-11-29 Thread Rick Merrill

EE wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/27/2013 10:35 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:

And the manual install did not succeed either.

What do I check to solve this little problem?



If you have an older version of Flash installed, use the Windows
Add/Remove capability to delete it.  Then try again to install the new
version.


If you are looking for an up-to-date Flash plugin, you can get one here:
http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/distribution3.html



THAT worked! (And it did not try to piggy back mcafee!)

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Re: Funding and Bug Fixes....

2013-11-29 Thread Rufus

Daniel wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Philip Chee wrote:

On 26/11/2013 05:55, Rufus wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:



Frankly, it seems the issue could be resolved simply by remembering
the
last window position instead of pegging the window in the upper left
corner of the screen.  Thus, if, as I usually do when annoyed by
such
window positioning, I move the window to a more pleasing
position, it
would forever be not a problem.

And, yes, I get that some dev decided that shoving the window up
there
would keep it out of the way of the compose window that is being
spell-checked.  I disagree.  My visual focus needs to be on the
spell-check window:  That's where the info is that I need to deal
with,
not in the compose window.  If I need to refer to the compose
window I
am smart enough to be able to move the spell-check window if it is
(doubtful in my config) obscuring the compose window.


The truth is rather more mundane. Back in 2002 someone noticed that
the
spellcheck sub-window was always stuck in the upper left corner of the
screen. So he fixed it. Or rather he attempted to fix it but didn't
check if his fix worked or not. See line 47 of the folllowing link:

http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsblame.cgi?file=mozilla/editor/ui/dialogs/content/EdSpellCheck.xulrev=1.63mark=47#40





I'm in the process of fixing this as part of Bug 942548. See the
second
half of Bug 942548 Comment #2 for more details.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=942548#c2

Phil



How did it come to pass that this is a Window on the Win version and a
drop-dialog on the Mac version?  I'm not seeing a problem with the
Spell
Check drop on the Mac version.


Given that we're talking about Mac v Windows and Drop=down v window, it
would be interesting to find out if the Mac Download Manager problem is
with a Drop-down or window and if the Windows Spell Checker problem is
with a Drop-down or window??



I don't regularly use the Download Manager, but I took a quick look and
don't see any particular issue there...are others seeing a problem?

One thing I can add though, is that when I encounter the random Master
Password dialog and it comes up in a window like the Download Progress
dialog vise a drop, is is still drawn short.  I'm not sure how this is
all implemented, but the error appears to stick with the drop/window
it's encountered in no matter how it's presented.


Sorry, my mistake, I meant Master Password sub-screen rather than
Download Manager!!



Ok - I *am* seeing that one, and it was the observation that started 
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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-29 Thread Rufus

Ant wrote:

On 11/28/2013 8:49 PM PT, Rufus typed:
...
  slow your mouse/trackpad down.  I view text only for the buttons and

have no problem

GW


...and screw up how everything else that works just fine on my machine
works?  No thanks...I'd like real buttons back.


I wonder if there is a way to slow the pointer down only for SeaMonkey
software.


...hmmnn...I'm probably hallucinating, but I do seem to recall some sort 
of utility that can provide app-specific mouse behavior.  I may be 
thinking of my Griffin iMate, though.


But that's not really the problem - the problem is that the buttons are 
simply too damn small - very near the size of the pointer itself, and 
the pointer can obscure the buttons.  For someone with limited vision 
(that might want to use a larger cursor) or problems with motor control 
this can be a genuine accessibility issue.


On top of that it graphically doesn't match anything in any other dialog 
in the Theme, and just plain looks like another problem.


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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-29 Thread Rufus

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:


I do miss the windows themselves having a (drawn) border like the
olden
days but that's not just a SM thing.
GW


I miss the dialog buttons being big enough to target.



slow your mouse/trackpad down. I view text only for the buttons and
have no problem

GW


...and screw up how everything else that works just fine on my machine
works? No thanks...I'd like real buttons back.



How is clicking on the p in Reply harder than clicking the center of
a rectangle?

GW


I don't click the p, I click a nice, large, iconic Reply button.  If 
the button is only the size of the cursor (no matter what it's shape) 
it's *not* as easy.


And I'm not thinking specifically about myself - I'm thinking from the 
standpoint of general accessibility; for impaired users.


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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-29 Thread PhillipJones

rob wrote:

On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 02:33:07 -0500, Ed Mullen e...@edmullen.net wrote:


What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?




Is it time for your medication or mine?


Orbit 3+1.


That's what I was using until I switched the SeaMonkey 2.2.2 series

The the author would fix it so it works. It works great on FireFox.

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Re: Funding and Bug Fixes....

2013-11-29 Thread Jens Hatlak

Daniel wrote:

Jens, the reason I was looking for SM 2.18B1 was that I was not
experiencing this problem when I was on one of the 2.18Betas, so figured
I'd go back there and work my way up through the Betas/Nightlies until
the problem did occur!!


There's no need. The regression was only introduced in SM 2.22.


Jens, do you mean that the nightly release isn't one, continuing, ever
evolving, codebase, with regular (six weekly) Alpha-Beta-Final
releases off-shoots??


There is no nightly release. Nightlies are just that, nightly builds 
built from whatever code the trunk contained at the time.


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Re: Random crash in SM Mail on Win32 only with recent builds

2013-11-29 Thread Michael Lueck

Greetings,

I was able to visit this computer today. The Mozilla crash detection had 
absolutely NO crashes reported.

I saw that their mail settings WERE set to auto compact when it would save more 
than 1MB of space. Clearly, however, it was not auto compacting. I adjusted the 
setting to 5MB.

Suggestions otherwise?

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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-29 Thread Geoff Welsh

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:


I do miss the windows themselves having a (drawn) border like the
olden
days but that's not just a SM thing.
GW


I miss the dialog buttons being big enough to target.



slow your mouse/trackpad down. I view text only for the buttons and
have no problem

GW


...and screw up how everything else that works just fine on my machine
works? No thanks...I'd like real buttons back.



How is clicking on the p in Reply harder than clicking the center of
a rectangle?

GW


I don't click the p, I click a nice, large, iconic Reply button. If
the button is only the size of the cursor (no matter what it's shape)
it's *not* as easy.



well somethings weird there then because on every Mac I have the pointer 
is far smaller than the word Reply so I have no problem clicking any 
letter in the word without missing.


Maybe one of those custom themes has the giant buttons you require.

GW
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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-29 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Geoff Welsh wrote:


well somethings weird there then because on every Mac I have the
pointer is far smaller than the word Reply so I have no problem
clicking any letter in the word without missing.

Maybe one of those custom themes has the giant buttons you require.


OK, have a look at this.

With the toolbar showing, right-click in an empty area of the toolbar 
and choose Customize. See if the option Use small icons is checked. 
If so, try unchecking it and see if the larger icons suit you.


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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-29 Thread Rufus

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:


I do miss the windows themselves having a (drawn) border like the
olden
days but that's not just a SM thing.
GW


I miss the dialog buttons being big enough to target.



slow your mouse/trackpad down. I view text only for the buttons and
have no problem

GW


...and screw up how everything else that works just fine on my machine
works? No thanks...I'd like real buttons back.



How is clicking on the p in Reply harder than clicking the center of
a rectangle?

GW


I don't click the p, I click a nice, large, iconic Reply button. If
the button is only the size of the cursor (no matter what it's shape)
it's *not* as easy.



well somethings weird there then because on every Mac I have the pointer
is far smaller than the word Reply so I have no problem clicking any
letter in the word without missing.

Maybe one of those custom themes has the giant buttons you require.

GW


Do you use buttons, or just text?  I set to display both, and I click 
the button not the text.


The only place where it's an issue is in the Download Progress 
dialog...why they'd screw up just one dialog and leave everything else 
passable is still beyond me...


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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-29 Thread Rufus

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:


well somethings weird there then because on every Mac I have the
pointer is far smaller than the word Reply so I have no problem
clicking any letter in the word without missing.

Maybe one of those custom themes has the giant buttons you require.


OK, have a look at this.

With the toolbar showing, right-click in an empty area of the toolbar
and choose Customize. See if the option Use small icons is checked.
If so, try unchecking it and see if the larger icons suit you.



Not the problem...I'm talking about the stupid too-small 
stop/cancel/close buttons in the Download Progress dialog.  Those are 
not customizable, and they are too small - and they don't even match up 
with any other presentation in the Theme, like they did before they were 
reduced in size.


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Re: Cannot E-mail pictures from Picasa with newest S.M. update. How to fix?

2013-11-29 Thread Mort

Daniel wrote:

Mort, I see you are posting these news post with SM 2.22 Is this from
the new computer or the old??



Hi Daniel,

These posts are from the old computer, where the Picasa stopped 
e-mailing pix. The new computer still has a previous S.M. version,and 
still sends Picasa pix by e-mail. The problem is that most of my 
thousands of edited pix are on the old computer's hard drive.


Thanks .

Mort

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Re: Cannot E-mail pictures from Picasa with newest S.M. update. How to fix? P.S.

2013-11-29 Thread Mort

Mort wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Mort, I see you are posting these news post with SM 2.22 Is this from
the new computer or the old??



Hi Daniel,

These posts are from the old computer, where the Picasa stopped
e-mailing pix. The new computer still has a previous S.M. version,and
still sends Picasa pix by e-mail. The problem is that most of my
thousands of edited pix are on the old computer's hard drive.

Thanks .

Mort

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P.S.

Not only do drag and drop not work here, but copy and paste also do not 
work.


I am stuck.

Thanks.

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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-29 Thread Hartmut Figge
Rufus:

Not the problem...I'm talking about the stupid too-small 
stop/cancel/close buttons in the Download Progress dialog.

These ones? http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/do131130.png

Those are not customizable, and they are too small

They are. I remember a thread in the past with strong complaints. Maybe,
there is even a bug about this.

Luckily i am not affected by this, because i am using wget. :)

Hartmut
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Focus goes away from web page

2013-11-29 Thread Jay O'Brien
When I bring up Seamonkey Mail and Newsgroups and then view an incoming message 
and click on a link in that message, it displays the referred page on top of 
the Mail and Newsgroups page for a moment and then the referred page goes 
behind the Mail and Newsgroups page. Subsequent lookups stay on top of the Mail 
and Newsgroups page. 

This would not be a problem, except that sometimes the first referred to page 
is smaller than the Mail and Newsgroups page and disappears completely behind 
the Mail and Newsgroups page. 

I would like lookups to always take the focus and stay on top of the page from 
which I click on a link. I suspect I have something configured wrong, I would 
like some help. Please?

Thanks,

Jay O'Brien
Folsom, CA
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Re: Focus goes away from web page

2013-11-29 Thread Ed Mullen

Jay O'Brien wrote:

When I bring up Seamonkey Mail and Newsgroups and then view an incoming message 
and click on a link in that message, it displays the referred page on top of 
the Mail and Newsgroups page for a moment and then the referred page goes 
behind the Mail and Newsgroups page. Subsequent lookups stay on top of the Mail 
and Newsgroups page.

This would not be a problem, except that sometimes the first referred to page 
is smaller than the Mail and Newsgroups page and disappears completely behind 
the Mail and Newsgroups page.

I would like lookups to always take the focus and stay on top of the page from 
which I click on a link. I suspect I have something configured wrong, I would 
like some help. Please?

Thanks,

Jay O'Brien
Folsom, CA


Please state:

Vesion of SeaMonky

OS/platform and version


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Re: SeaMonkey Shutdown

2013-11-29 Thread NoOp
On 11/25/2013 10:41 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
 Windows 7 (x64)
 SeaMonkey 2.22.1
 
 Very often, the seamonkey.exe process fails to die when I shutdown
 SeaMonkey.  I usually shut it down by selecting the X in the upper-right
 corner of the window.  Several minutes later, I cannot relaunch
 SeaMonkey without first using Ctrl-Alt-Delete and terminating the
 seamonkey.exe process.
 
 Is this a SeaMonkey problem or a Windows 7 problem?
 

FWIW, this has been happening quite alot on my wife's SM 2.22.1 Win7
since upgrading from 2.22.0. Drives *me* crazy becuase I have to go and
clear it for her. When she gets back I plan to downgrade her SeaMonkey
to 2.22.0.

I've not noticed it on my linux version as I can't run 2.22.1 until the
lightning bug (no pun intended) is fixed.
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Re: [Resolved] Re: Flash (Linux) again...

2013-11-29 Thread NoOp
On 11/23/2013 11:19 AM, Geoff Welsh wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
...
 Found the problem  filed a bug report:
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=942356

 Both Firefox and Seamonkey put incorrect plugin information in the
 pluginreg.dat file. Note that the version information in both files
 incorrectly places commas, instead of periods, between the version number:
 SeaMonkey 2.2.0/1:
 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0
 SeaMonkey/2.22
 Shockwave Flash
  File: libflashplayer.so
  Path: /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so
  Version: 11,2,202,327

 
 wow, good find!
 
 guess someone was feeling European that day.
 
 GW
 

Ah, nice catch. I didn't even think of that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_mark
As Rob mentioned, perhaps an incorrect localization/locale setting?

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Re: What theme do you use?

2013-11-29 Thread NoOp
On 11/27/2013 05:58 AM, Pololo wrote:
 On 27/11/13 08:33, Ed Mullen wrote:
 What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

 
 GNOMErunner/GTK Revived on Xubuntu 12.04LTS 32-bits
 

I like that theme. Unfortunately I ran into this issue:

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=5t=2743823
quote
I've noticed since SM 2.20 that a small white box was appearing in the
top-left of my screen and staying there, on top of everything else. I
didn't think it was anything to do with SeaMonkey until one day I tried
to track it down and after closing all programs, I checked the Task
Manager and noticed that SM was still running. When I killed it, the
white box disappeared.

I've tracked it down to the new mail notification box. I no longer get
the little box in the bottom-right of the screen nor do I get a tray
notification icon.
/quote

At first I thought it was libnotify/libindicatior/etc or some other
system issue, but after removing the theme and restarting with the
default SeaMonkey theme, everything is back to normal.
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Re: 2.22.1 Install nag: Did not install.....!!

2013-11-29 Thread azed13

Daniel wrote:

azed13 wrote:

Daniel wrote:

azed13 wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:


Snip


That is what I have been seeing, not with installs but generally.
It is
sporadic, about 1/4 of the time.

See the thread SeaMonkey Shutdown (started 25 Nov 2013) in this
newsgroup.


Thanks David:

I read the thread but I'm not sure it is of any help. My system has
been
shut down for almost 24 hours yet after booting up for a new session, I
still got the nag when I opened Seamonkey. I'm not a programmer or
code wise but it seems improbable that Seamonkey was running while
everything was shut down without power. And, I'm not much for creating
new profiles. It's been years since the last time I did that and it was
a horrible experience including recovering all my mail and bookmark
files. Why that happened I don't know but at this stage I'm really much
too old to risk what works well for everything else. I'll keep an
eye on
that thread to see if anything else pops up.

azed13


O.K., azed, is it possibly that just before you did the update/install,
you had a problem with Windows/SeaMonkey which caused Windows to
shutdown?? If so, it is possible that the previously running SeaMonkey
process had written a file to your disk drive to stop you starting
another (second) instance of SeaMonkey. If SM had closed normally, this
file would have been erased.

The file is called something like parent.lock. With SM completely closed
(including the quickstart function if you have it set up), do a Windows
Find File or Folder looking for parent.*, then in Windows Explorer
(making sure you ha Windows Explorer set up to display hidden folders),
go to that location and delete parent.lock.

Report back.


Daniel:

I can't recall ever having a Windows shutdown while using Seamonkey.
BTW, I apologize for not stating that I am on Windows 7 Pro, X64 service
pack 1. I did a search  anyway and found 43 files with some variation of
parent buried in them. None were in any Seamonkey folder and the
newest one is dated January 2013. This is long before the problem
started. I still get the nag at each start of Seamonkey and the message
seems to indicate that the auto-update install file is somewhere in my
system and still trying to install 2.22.1 which I have done manually.

Oops! I missed the instruction to search with Seamonkey closed. I will
search again and report back if the results are any different. Per my
original query, I would still be interested in where that auto install
file is located.

azed13

azed, I think the auto-install files having an ending something like
.mac, so if someone were to post the correct ending, you could do a
Windows search for it and delete it.



Daniel:

Thanks again. Since I last posted, while working a different program (no 
Seamonkey session open and off line) suddenly a dialogue box popped up 
stating that the Seamonkey update failed for some reason I don't recall 
asking to download the full or complete file. I clicked OK and the 
dialogue box changed to connecting to server and downloading. I don't 
remember the full details. I do know that after about 15 minutes nothing 
happened and I cancelled the operation. My mystery problem appears to 
have been solved by another mystery. I no longer get the nag message. 
However, Seamonkey seems to take much longer to open. I'm not sure if 
that is because of Seamonkey or something on my system. I will watch 
what happens for a period of time to see if this is a persistent 
problem. Meanwhile, my thanks to all who offered assistance.


azed13
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