Re: Continuous disk acces for seamonkey mail
Daniel wrote: On 08/04/14 02:05, Patrick Begou wrote: I've restarted seamonkey after removing the addons.sqlite-journal file. Seams to be OK again The next step is a complete resinstall of the PC (autoinstall with kickstart after a PXE boot) to restart investigations from a clean copy. I still have an iftop on the NFS server to check the problem. Merci Patrick Patrick, if you have to go that extra step and re-install SM, when you de-install it, it does not normally delete your profile, so when you then re-install SM, it may re-locate this profile. If you want to try a new profile (which could be a reasonable move *before* de-installing SM), go to Tools-Switch Profiles and then select Create new Profile I've yet tested de-install/re-install and it doesn't change seamonkey behavior. But yesterday i've got the solution. Using the strings command on addons.sqlite-journal was showing also many occurences of chatzilla, an addon added by the user. We have removed all it's addons including chatzilla, and now semonkey is working fine (mainly used for email by this user) and I do not notice any unusual network activity. Moreover, the user was not using chatzilla. Thanks for all your help and suggestions to solve the problem. Patrick -- === | Equipe M.O.S.T. | | | Patrick BEGOU | mailto:patrick.be...@grenoble-inp.fr | | LEGI| | | BP 53 X | Tel 04 76 82 51 35 | | 38041 GRENOBLE CEDEX| Fax 04 76 82 52 71 | === ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Continuous disk acces for seamonkey mail
Rob wrote: Patrick Begou patrick.be...@legi.grenoble-inp.fr wrote: Seamonkey is again writing continuously to addons.sqlite-journal file! Nearly 50Mbit/s. And there is only one seamonkey process (seamonkey mail) runing. If I stop it, IO stop, so it is seamonkey. But why ? NOTE! It is not possible, NOT POSSIBLE, to have the .sqlite files of seamonkey (or any other .sqlite files) on NFS storage! Neither on SMB storage, for that matter. Doing so will lead to corruption, failure to apply the journal file, etc. Precisely what you mention. You should copy them to the local disk, let seamonkey work with them there, and copy back on logout. But how can you setup this when all the home directories are accessed via NFS ? All the storage is in the datacenter for security purpose (raid array of disks on two redundant NFS servers in a secured room). This also allows standart client configuration with no local user data. Patrick NB: as said in the previous mail, the problem seams solved and related to the chatzilla addon installed by this user. -- === | Equipe M.O.S.T. | | | Patrick BEGOU | mailto:patrick.be...@grenoble-inp.fr | | LEGI| | | BP 53 X | Tel 04 76 82 51 35 | | 38041 GRENOBLE CEDEX| Fax 04 76 82 52 71 | === ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No javascript in 2.25
Original Message JavaScript function seems to have vanished from SeaMonkey 2.25, even in safe mode. What is the best way to get this back? Note: I have in essence an identical installation on a second machine, the main difference being the profile name, so I could probably overwrite the corrupt file or files if I knew which ones were suspect. I am running 2.25. If you go to Edit Preferences Advanced Scripts Pluigins Enable Javascript for [X] Browser is checked on? Yes, javascript is enabled. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No javascript in 2.25
Original Message Roger Fink wrote: JavaScript function seems to have vanished from SeaMonkey 2.25, even in safe mode. What is the best way to get this back? Do you mean the ability to Enable or Disable JavaScript is missing, or do you mean Pages with JavaScript do not function? It's hard to tell from what you wrote. Referring to the latter, pages with JavaScript do not function (properly). ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No javascript in 2.25
Original Message JavaScript function seems to have vanished from SeaMonkey 2.25, even in safe mode. What is the best way to get this back? Note: I have in essence an identical installation on a second machine, the main difference being the profile name, so I could probably overwrite the corrupt file or files if I knew which ones were suspect. Twelve hours after the original post, JavaScript is now working in SeaMonkey. At the time of the original post, JavaScript was working on the other browsers: FF, Palemoon and IE. The problem occurred across multiple sites. Maybe it had something to do with yesterday's Windows Update but that still doesn't explain why JS functionality returned. Anyway, I can live with the outcome. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey suite
On 4/9/14 1:31 PM +0900, cmcadams wrote: Joyce Greer wrote: Hi, My husband and I just switched from outlook Express to SeaMonkey for our email client. What I didn't realize (He did) was that the SeaMonkey browser would be included in the download. I have the Firefox browser as my default and want to keep it that way, especially for any links that I click on in my emails. Is there any way I can have Firefox and not SeaMonkey come up when I click on links in my emails? I'd appreciate any help you can give here. Thanks, Joyce Greer Go to Firefox preferences, where there should be a button for making Firefox your default browser. I don't have it installed on this computer so I can't tell you the precise location. Then, start Seamonkey Mail, go to Edit-Preferences-Mail Newsgroups and on the right side you'll see buttons for making Seamonkey your default for mail and news(groups). The problem here is that clicking links in mail, RSS, etc. will open SeaMonkey windows rather than Firefox windows. Unless the user is willing to drag links onto Firefox all the time, there's precious little reason to suggest using SeaMonkey for mail and Firefox for web. When using Firefox, Thunderbird makes a better mail, news and RSS choice. IMO, YMMV and all that. -- / // Trane Francks tr...@tranefrancks.com Tokyo, Japan // Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey Nightly and Aurora not building for either X86 32 bit or the X86_64 platforms
Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP): It looks like a second build of 2.26b was initiated on 4/9 and is still being built. I am daily building my own SM Trunk Linux x86_64. :) Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey suite
Trane Francks wrote, On 09/04/2014 10:47: On 4/9/14 1:31 PM +0900, cmcadams wrote: Joyce Greer wrote: Hi, My husband and I just switched from outlook Express to SeaMonkey for our email client. What I didn't realize (He did) was that the SeaMonkey browser would be included in the download. I have the Firefox browser as my default and want to keep it that way, especially for any links that I click on in my emails. Is there any way I can have Firefox and not SeaMonkey come up when I click on links in my emails? I'd appreciate any help you can give here. Thanks, Joyce Greer Go to Firefox preferences, where there should be a button for making Firefox your default browser. I don't have it installed on this computer so I can't tell you the precise location. Then, start Seamonkey Mail, go to Edit-Preferences-Mail Newsgroups and on the right side you'll see buttons for making Seamonkey your default for mail and news(groups). The problem here is that clicking links in mail, RSS, etc. will open SeaMonkey windows rather than Firefox windows. Unless the user is willing to drag links onto Firefox all the time, there's precious little reason to suggest using SeaMonkey for mail and Firefox for web. When using Firefox, Thunderbird makes a better mail, news and RSS choice. IMO, YMMV and all that. Did you say that Seamonkey mail refuse to start the default browser when we click on a link a SeaMonkey mail ? If the answer is yes .. so this is ANOTHER SeaMonkey BUG !!! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey suite
Trane Francks wrote: On 4/9/14 1:31 PM +0900, cmcadams wrote: Joyce Greer wrote: Hi, My husband and I just switched from outlook Express to SeaMonkey for our email client. What I didn't realize (He did) was that the SeaMonkey browser would be included in the download. I have the Firefox browser as my default and want to keep it that way, especially for any links that I click on in my emails. Is there any way I can have Firefox and not SeaMonkey come up when I click on links in my emails? I'd appreciate any help you can give here. Thanks, Joyce Greer Go to Firefox preferences, where there should be a button for making Firefox your default browser. I don't have it installed on this computer so I can't tell you the precise location. Then, start Seamonkey Mail, go to Edit-Preferences-Mail Newsgroups and on the right side you'll see buttons for making Seamonkey your default for mail and news(groups). The problem here is that clicking links in mail, RSS, etc. will open SeaMonkey windows rather than Firefox windows. Unless the user is willing to drag links onto Firefox all the time, there's precious little reason to suggest using SeaMonkey for mail and Firefox for web. When using Firefox, Thunderbird makes a better mail, news and RSS choice. IMO, YMMV and all that. I wasn't suggesting anything except how she could accomplish what she stated she wished to do. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey suite
Ray_Net wrote: Trane Francks wrote, On 09/04/2014 10:47: On 4/9/14 1:31 PM +0900, cmcadams wrote: Joyce Greer wrote: Hi, My husband and I just switched from outlook Express to SeaMonkey for our email client. What I didn't realize (He did) was that the SeaMonkey browser would be included in the download. I have the Firefox browser as my default and want to keep it that way, especially for any links that I click on in my emails. Is there any way I can have Firefox and not SeaMonkey come up when I click on links in my emails? I'd appreciate any help you can give here. Thanks, Joyce Greer Go to Firefox preferences, where there should be a button for making Firefox your default browser. I don't have it installed on this computer so I can't tell you the precise location. Then, start Seamonkey Mail, go to Edit-Preferences-Mail Newsgroups and on the right side you'll see buttons for making Seamonkey your default for mail and news(groups). The problem here is that clicking links in mail, RSS, etc. will open SeaMonkey windows rather than Firefox windows. Unless the user is willing to drag links onto Firefox all the time, there's precious little reason to suggest using SeaMonkey for mail and Firefox for web. When using Firefox, Thunderbird makes a better mail, news and RSS choice. IMO, YMMV and all that. Did you say that Seamonkey mail refuse to start the default browser when we click on a link a SeaMonkey mail ? If the answer is yes .. so this is ANOTHER SeaMonkey BUG !!! It is just that SeaMonkey can do the job itself, so that is what it does. Instead of calling the operating system to open the default browser (or mail reader), it does the task itself. I do not think it is a bug, I think that is deliberate. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Continuous disk acces for seamonkey mail
Patrick Begou patrick.be...@legi.grenoble-inp.fr wrote: Rob wrote: Patrick Begou patrick.be...@legi.grenoble-inp.fr wrote: Seamonkey is again writing continuously to addons.sqlite-journal file! Nearly 50Mbit/s. And there is only one seamonkey process (seamonkey mail) runing. If I stop it, IO stop, so it is seamonkey. But why ? NOTE! It is not possible, NOT POSSIBLE, to have the .sqlite files of seamonkey (or any other .sqlite files) on NFS storage! Neither on SMB storage, for that matter. Doing so will lead to corruption, failure to apply the journal file, etc. Precisely what you mention. You should copy them to the local disk, let seamonkey work with them there, and copy back on logout. But how can you setup this when all the home directories are accessed via NFS ? All the storage is in the datacenter for security purpose (raid array of disks on two redundant NFS servers in a secured room). This also allows standart client configuration with no local user data. Patrick I tried many times like you and no matter if I use Windows or Linux, the sqlite does not work correctly on network file systems. We have used Seamonkey a long time on Windows in an environment like that, but on Windows the user profile is copied from the network to the local disk on login, and back to the network on logout. Then it works OK. I tried running scripts to manipulate the .sqlite databases while they are on the network storage, e.g. to delete unwanted cookies, but it always failed. When first copying to a local disk, or running the script on the server where the files are local, it is OK. I don't know a solution when home directories are on the network. NB: as said in the previous mail, the problem seams solved and related to the chatzilla addon installed by this user. chatzilla is not an addon installed by the user, it comes as standard with Seamonkey. Maybe this user was the only one actually using it. However, when you look on your storage you will find many .sqlite-journal files. Those will normally not exist after the program exits. Only on network storage they remain. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey suite
On 4/9/2014 3:47 AM, Trane Francks wrote: On 4/9/14 1:31 PM +0900, cmcadams wrote: Joyce Greer wrote: Hi, My husband and I just switched from outlook Express to SeaMonkey for our email client. What I didn't realize (He did) was that the SeaMonkey browser would be included in the download. I have the Firefox browser as my default and want to keep it that way, especially for any links that I click on in my emails. Is there any way I can have Firefox and not SeaMonkey come up when I click on links in my emails? I'd appreciate any help you can give here. Thanks, Joyce Greer Go to Firefox preferences, where there should be a button for making Firefox your default browser. I don't have it installed on this computer so I can't tell you the precise location. Then, start Seamonkey Mail, go to Edit-Preferences-Mail Newsgroups and on the right side you'll see buttons for making Seamonkey your default for mail and news(groups). The problem here is that clicking links in mail, RSS, etc. will open SeaMonkey windows rather than Firefox windows. Unless the user is willing to drag links onto Firefox all the time, there's precious little reason to suggest using SeaMonkey for mail and Firefox for web. When using Firefox, Thunderbird makes a better mail, news and RSS choice. IMO, YMMV and all that. I am using SeaMonkey for web, and Thunderbird for mail because my pointing device lets me use the extra buttons by application, so if I use email/newsgroups in SeaMonkey, I lose my programmable buttons. Works fine for me. I am using SeaMonkey for the web because there is an intermittent crashing bug in Firefox that crashed the program without a dump (hangs). I thought I had this fixed, but it still happens. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey suite
On 4/10/14 4:42 AM +0900, Ron Hunter wrote: On 4/9/2014 3:47 AM, Trane Francks wrote: On 4/9/14 1:31 PM +0900, cmcadams wrote: Joyce Greer wrote: Hi, My husband and I just switched from outlook Express to SeaMonkey for our email client. What I didn't realize (He did) was that the SeaMonkey browser would be included in the download. I have the Firefox browser as my default and want to keep it that way, especially for any links that I click on in my emails. Is there any way I can have Firefox and not SeaMonkey come up when I click on links in my emails? I'd appreciate any help you can give here. Thanks, Joyce Greer Go to Firefox preferences, where there should be a button for making Firefox your default browser. I don't have it installed on this computer so I can't tell you the precise location. Then, start Seamonkey Mail, go to Edit-Preferences-Mail Newsgroups and on the right side you'll see buttons for making Seamonkey your default for mail and news(groups). The problem here is that clicking links in mail, RSS, etc. will open SeaMonkey windows rather than Firefox windows. Unless the user is willing to drag links onto Firefox all the time, there's precious little reason to suggest using SeaMonkey for mail and Firefox for web. When using Firefox, Thunderbird makes a better mail, news and RSS choice. IMO, YMMV and all that. I am using SeaMonkey for web, and Thunderbird for mail because my pointing device lets me use the extra buttons by application, so if I use email/newsgroups in SeaMonkey, I lose my programmable buttons. Works fine for me. I am using SeaMonkey for the web because there is an intermittent crashing bug in Firefox that crashed the program without a dump (hangs). I thought I had this fixed, but it still happens. Thunderbird has no problem opening SeaMonkey as the default browser. Thunderbird, by definition, expects to call on the OS for its choice of browser. In SeaMonkey's case, it always uses its own browser when opening links from its own e-mail client, regardless of the operating system's defined default browser. -- / // Trane Francks tr...@tranefrancks.com Tokyo, Japan // Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey suite
On 4/9/2014 12:42 PM, Ron Hunter wrote: On 4/9/2014 3:47 AM, Trane Francks wrote: On 4/9/14 1:31 PM +0900, cmcadams wrote: Joyce Greer wrote: Hi, My husband and I just switched from outlook Express to SeaMonkey for our email client. What I didn't realize (He did) was that the SeaMonkey browser would be included in the download. I have the Firefox browser as my default and want to keep it that way, especially for any links that I click on in my emails. Is there any way I can have Firefox and not SeaMonkey come up when I click on links in my emails? I'd appreciate any help you can give here. Thanks, Joyce Greer Go to Firefox preferences, where there should be a button for making Firefox your default browser. I don't have it installed on this computer so I can't tell you the precise location. Then, start Seamonkey Mail, go to Edit-Preferences-Mail Newsgroups and on the right side you'll see buttons for making Seamonkey your default for mail and news(groups). The problem here is that clicking links in mail, RSS, etc. will open SeaMonkey windows rather than Firefox windows. Unless the user is willing to drag links onto Firefox all the time, there's precious little reason to suggest using SeaMonkey for mail and Firefox for web. When using Firefox, Thunderbird makes a better mail, news and RSS choice. IMO, YMMV and all that. I am using SeaMonkey for web, and Thunderbird for mail because my pointing device lets me use the extra buttons by application, so if I use email/newsgroups in SeaMonkey, I lose my programmable buttons. Works fine for me. I am using SeaMonkey for the web because there is an intermittent crashing bug in Firefox that crashed the program without a dump (hangs). I thought I had this fixed, but it still happens. I too use SeaMonkey as a Web browser and Thunderbird for E-mail, RSS feeds, and newsgroups. I actively use three different SeaMonkey profiles, sometimes switching back and forth several times an hour. When I do that, I do not want to lose my current E-mail or newsgroup session. Why three profiles? One is specifically for banking and managing my investments; the related Web sites require that my preferences be set different from how I normally want them (e.g., the banks want me to accept all cookies, to accept popups, and to disable the Secret Agent extension). One is specifically for reading amateur fiction online; it has almost as many bookmarks as my general-purpose profile. And then one is my general-purpose profile. There is a fourth profile just for guests. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam, flames, and trolling from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey suite
EE wrote, On 09/04/2014 21:17: Ray_Net wrote: Trane Francks wrote, On 09/04/2014 10:47: On 4/9/14 1:31 PM +0900, cmcadams wrote: Joyce Greer wrote: Hi, My husband and I just switched from outlook Express to SeaMonkey for our email client. What I didn't realize (He did) was that the SeaMonkey browser would be included in the download. I have the Firefox browser as my default and want to keep it that way, especially for any links that I click on in my emails. Is there any way I can have Firefox and not SeaMonkey come up when I click on links in my emails? I'd appreciate any help you can give here. Thanks, Joyce Greer Go to Firefox preferences, where there should be a button for making Firefox your default browser. I don't have it installed on this computer so I can't tell you the precise location. Then, start Seamonkey Mail, go to Edit-Preferences-Mail Newsgroups and on the right side you'll see buttons for making Seamonkey your default for mail and news(groups). The problem here is that clicking links in mail, RSS, etc. will open SeaMonkey windows rather than Firefox windows. Unless the user is willing to drag links onto Firefox all the time, there's precious little reason to suggest using SeaMonkey for mail and Firefox for web. When using Firefox, Thunderbird makes a better mail, news and RSS choice. IMO, YMMV and all that. Did you say that Seamonkey mail refuse to start the default browser when we click on a link a SeaMonkey mail ? If the answer is yes .. so this is ANOTHER SeaMonkey BUG !!! It is just that SeaMonkey can do the job itself, so that is what it does. Instead of calling the operating system to open the default browser (or mail reader), it does the task itself. I do not think it is a bug, I think that is deliberate. So, it's a deliberate bug who act against the user who want to use his prefered browser, because he put it a the defaultone If the user prefer the Seamonkey browser he put this browser as the default one. But in the case of the OP . The OP WANT to open FireFox instead of SeaMonkey when he click on a link in a SeaMonkey mail !!! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey suite
David E. Ross wrote: I too use SeaMonkey as a Web browser and Thunderbird for E-mail, RSS feeds, and newsgroups. I actively use three different SeaMonkey profiles, sometimes switching back and forth several times an hour. When I do that, I do not want to lose my current E-mail or newsgroup session. Why three profiles? One is specifically for banking and managing my investments; the related Web sites require that my preferences be set different from how I normally want them (e.g., the banks want me to accept all cookies, to accept popups, and to disable the Secret Agent extension). One is specifically for reading amateur fiction online; it has almost as many bookmarks as my general-purpose profile. And then one is my general-purpose profile. There is a fourth profile just for guests. You don't have to have separate profiles for that. You can specify in the Data Manager that your bank's website is authorized to set cookies and launch popups, while keeping your default prohibitions for sites that are not explicitly listed. Just don't save those passwords on your computer! ;-) And depending on your routine and your tastes, you can file bookmarks in different folders if you like. Or not... -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Continuous disk acces for seamonkey mail
On 04/09/2014 12:33 AM, Patrick Begou wrote: Daniel wrote: On 08/04/14 02:05, Patrick Begou wrote: I've restarted seamonkey after removing the addons.sqlite-journal file. Seams to be OK again The next step is a complete resinstall of the PC (autoinstall with kickstart after a PXE boot) to restart investigations from a clean copy. I still have an iftop on the NFS server to check the problem. Merci Patrick Patrick, if you have to go that extra step and re-install SM, when you de-install it, it does not normally delete your profile, so when you then re-install SM, it may re-locate this profile. If you want to try a new profile (which could be a reasonable move *before* de-installing SM), go to Tools-Switch Profiles and then select Create new Profile I've yet tested de-install/re-install and it doesn't change seamonkey behavior. But yesterday i've got the solution. Using the strings command on addons.sqlite-journal was showing also many occurences of chatzilla, an addon added by the user. We have removed all it's addons including chatzilla, and now semonkey is working fine (mainly used for email by this user) and I do not notice any unusual network activity. Moreover, the user was not using chatzilla. Thanks for all your help and suggestions to solve the problem. Patrick Chatzilla is included with the SeaMonkey version you are using. While you seemed to have resolved your problem, you might want to have a look at: https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=enq=%22addons.sqlite-journal%22 https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=enq=%22addons.sqlite-journal%22%20%2B%20NFS https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=804092 (Bug 804092 - Continual (re-)writes to addons.sqlite-journal (over NFS?) ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
