Re: Wishlist of things I'd like to see

[Rufus]

PhillipJones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/13/2014 12:06 PM, Rufus wrote:


...I'd like to see all of the bugs that are preventing me from using
the
Profile Manager fixed, and for SM to actually use my pref setting for
Master Password.


Do you mean bug #425145: "Hidden pref to save ID and password when
autocomplete="off" (signon.overrideAutocomplete)"?  If so, the fix for
that should already be in SeaMonkey 2.26 with a follow-up fix to bug
#956906 -- "ignore autocomplete="off" when offering to save passwords
via the password manager" -- possibly in the next SeaMonkey version
(2.27?).



No, not that one...but go ahead and fix that one too.

The one I'm referring to is one I wrote: bug #724296, "SM 2.x Mac
prompts for Master Password when seemingly not required".  SM is still
asking for my Master Password at seemingly "random" intervals during a
session even though my Pref is set to only ask for it the first time it
is required...I often use SM without even visiting a site where I need
to use a password, yet if that session is long enough SM will ask for my
Master, I will click Cancel, and then SM will start asking over and over
again until I either close the session or enter the Master.  And even
worse, if this happens in the middle of a download in progress SM
freezes and I lose the session - download and all.  This got broken
around SM 1.1.something and has been broken ever since.

And bug #724263, and is now titled "SeaMonkey on Mac OS X does not open
HTML files or hyperlinks correctly when using the profile
manager"...which I haven't been using since the Developers suggest not
using the Profile Manager as a "fix"...but that isn't a fix, and SM
*still* does not follow OS X on disk path specs from top level when used
as the default browser.

I think there was also a second suggestion as to why I should stop using
the PM at start up, but I can't recall why that was - but it seems that
there are some basic OS X interface issues floating around out there
that need to be addressed.

And I've also noted that there appear to be two differing code paths
within SM for invocation of the Profile Manager - invoking Switch
Profile from within the Browser displays a different graphic (the older
1.x.x one) than if one invokes Profile Manager at start up.


Its Odd that I have never seen this Bug. But then from the first time it
was offered in I believe in Communicator, or or at least Mozilla I set
up a Master Password and set it to be typed in when first open
SeaMonkey. I like that much better than in FireFox where You can Open
without  typing password in But every time you need a Password you have
to type in the master password.



Same-same - that was one of the things I liked about SM...I could set it 
to only ask the first time it was needed and then not have to do it 
again during the session, the same way I used to do with Netscape.  And 
it always worked with Netscape.  And it used to work with SMnot anymore.


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Re: mailnews.reply_header_authorwrote;

[Hartmut Figge]

NoOp:
>On 05/13/2014 07:06 AM, RM decreed, Read These Runes!:
>> Hartmut Figge wrote:
>>> RM wrote:

mailnews.reply_header_authorwrote is being ignored.
>
>Works for me.
>
>User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101
>Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26
>Build identifier: 20140428215651

The change was in

Last good: 2014-04-23 16:13:00 PDT mc-33ca5e321046 cc-711cff832014
First bad: 2014-04-24 16:18:00 PDT mc-5ecd532a167e cc-2d5ceaf7ac97

so your build should be affected. Now there are new prefs instead of the
old ones.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1009585#c5

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Re: Wishlist of things I'd like to see

[PhillipJones]

Ed Mullen wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

EE wrote:


Does HTML5 video go to real full-screen at all?  That has not been my
experience.



HTML5 from YouTube does not... however HTML5 video when you use the
 HTML5 tag does.  If you don't believe me, look at the videos on
my motorcycle club's webpage and see for yourself.

http://www.nassauwings.org/cgi-local/PhotoAlbum.rex



Not here.  SM 2.26.  All videos in little windows.


I have 2.26 and the video play Perfectly.

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Re: Wishlist of things I'd like to see

[PhillipJones]

Rufus wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/13/2014 12:06 PM, Rufus wrote:


...I'd like to see all of the bugs that are preventing me from using the
Profile Manager fixed, and for SM to actually use my pref setting for
Master Password.


Do you mean bug #425145: "Hidden pref to save ID and password when
autocomplete="off" (signon.overrideAutocomplete)"?  If so, the fix for
that should already be in SeaMonkey 2.26 with a follow-up fix to bug
#956906 -- "ignore autocomplete="off" when offering to save passwords
via the password manager" -- possibly in the next SeaMonkey version
(2.27?).



No, not that one...but go ahead and fix that one too.

The one I'm referring to is one I wrote: bug #724296, "SM 2.x Mac
prompts for Master Password when seemingly not required".  SM is still
asking for my Master Password at seemingly "random" intervals during a
session even though my Pref is set to only ask for it the first time it
is required...I often use SM without even visiting a site where I need
to use a password, yet if that session is long enough SM will ask for my
Master, I will click Cancel, and then SM will start asking over and over
again until I either close the session or enter the Master.  And even
worse, if this happens in the middle of a download in progress SM
freezes and I lose the session - download and all.  This got broken
around SM 1.1.something and has been broken ever since.

And bug #724263, and is now titled "SeaMonkey on Mac OS X does not open
HTML files or hyperlinks correctly when using the profile
manager"...which I haven't been using since the Developers suggest not
using the Profile Manager as a "fix"...but that isn't a fix, and SM
*still* does not follow OS X on disk path specs from top level when used
as the default browser.

I think there was also a second suggestion as to why I should stop using
the PM at start up, but I can't recall why that was - but it seems that
there are some basic OS X interface issues floating around out there
that need to be addressed.

And I've also noted that there appear to be two differing code paths
within SM for invocation of the Profile Manager - invoking Switch
Profile from within the Browser displays a different graphic (the older
1.x.x one) than if one invokes Profile Manager at start up.

Its Odd that I have never seen this Bug. But then from the first time it 
was offered in I believe in Communicator, or or at least Mozilla I set 
up a Master Password and set it to be typed in when first open 
SeaMonkey. I like that much better than in FireFox where You can Open 
without  typing password in But every time you need a Password you have 
to type in the master password.


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Re: Wishlist of things I'd like to see

[PhillipJones]

Rufus wrote:

Philip Taylor wrote:



Rufus wrote:


...I'd like to see all of the bugs that are preventing me from using the
Profile Manager fixed, and for SM to actually use my pref setting for
Master Password.

And fix the bug for following on-disk paths for .html files so I can
stop having to use Safari to open my Epson Help manual.


And my wish is even simpler :  that all documented bugs are fixed before
any further "development" takes place.

Philip Taylor


Amen.


+++

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Re: SeaMonkey futures...

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Philip Taylor wrote:


Trane Francks wrote:


SeaMonkey's lineage is directly traceable to Netscape Navigator 1.0.
SeaMonkey will effectively be having its 20th birthday this year.


Er, no (not unless you believe in time-travel !); it is /Netscape/ that
"will effectively be having its 20th birthday this year", and as someone
who has used every version from Netscape 1.0 to Seamonkey 2.17,
I would like to wish Netscape a Very Happy Birthday indeed !


What's in a name? That which we call SeaMonkey, by any other name would 
smell as sweet...


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Re: Wishlist of things I'd like to see

[Trane Francks]

On 5/14/14 11:06 AM +0900, Ed Mullen wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

EE wrote:


Does HTML5 video go to real full-screen at all?  That has not been my
experience.



HTML5 from YouTube does not... however HTML5 video when you use the
 HTML5 tag does.  If you don't believe me, look at the videos on
my motorcycle club's webpage and see for yourself.

http://www.nassauwings.org/cgi-local/PhotoAlbum.rex



Not here.  SM 2.26.  All videos in little windows.

WFM on SM 2.26 on OS X 10.7.5. Right-click on the window and select 
fullscreen from the pop-up menu. Works a charm.


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Re: Wishlist of things I'd like to see

[Ed Mullen]

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

EE wrote:


Does HTML5 video go to real full-screen at all?  That has not been my
experience.



HTML5 from YouTube does not... however HTML5 video when you use the
 HTML5 tag does.  If you don't believe me, look at the videos on
my motorcycle club's webpage and see for yourself.

http://www.nassauwings.org/cgi-local/PhotoAlbum.rex



Not here.  SM 2.26.  All videos in little windows.

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Re: Wishlist of things I'd like to see

[Rufus]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/13/2014 12:06 PM, Rufus wrote:


...I'd like to see all of the bugs that are preventing me from using the
Profile Manager fixed, and for SM to actually use my pref setting for
Master Password.


Do you mean bug #425145: "Hidden pref to save ID and password when
autocomplete="off" (signon.overrideAutocomplete)"?  If so, the fix for
that should already be in SeaMonkey 2.26 with a follow-up fix to bug
#956906 -- "ignore autocomplete="off" when offering to save passwords
via the password manager" -- possibly in the next SeaMonkey version
(2.27?).



No, not that one...but go ahead and fix that one too.

The one I'm referring to is one I wrote: bug #724296, "SM 2.x Mac 
prompts for Master Password when seemingly not required".  SM is still 
asking for my Master Password at seemingly "random" intervals during a 
session even though my Pref is set to only ask for it the first time it 
is required...I often use SM without even visiting a site where I need 
to use a password, yet if that session is long enough SM will ask for my 
Master, I will click Cancel, and then SM will start asking over and over 
again until I either close the session or enter the Master.  And even 
worse, if this happens in the middle of a download in progress SM 
freezes and I lose the session - download and all.  This got broken 
around SM 1.1.something and has been broken ever since.


And bug #724263, and is now titled "SeaMonkey on Mac OS X does not open 
HTML files or hyperlinks correctly when using the profile 
manager"...which I haven't been using since the Developers suggest not 
using the Profile Manager as a "fix"...but that isn't a fix, and SM 
*still* does not follow OS X on disk path specs from top level when used 
as the default browser.


I think there was also a second suggestion as to why I should stop using 
the PM at start up, but I can't recall why that was - but it seems that 
there are some basic OS X interface issues floating around out there 
that need to be addressed.


And I've also noted that there appear to be two differing code paths 
within SM for invocation of the Profile Manager - invoking Switch 
Profile from within the Browser displays a different graphic (the older 
1.x.x one) than if one invokes Profile Manager at start up.


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Re: Wishlist of things I'd like to see

[Rufus]

Philip Taylor wrote:



Rufus wrote:


...I'd like to see all of the bugs that are preventing me from using the
Profile Manager fixed, and for SM to actually use my pref setting for
Master Password.

And fix the bug for following on-disk paths for .html files so I can
stop having to use Safari to open my Epson Help manual.


And my wish is even simpler :  that all documented bugs are fixed before
any further "development" takes place.

Philip Taylor


Amen.

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Re: Wishlist of things I'd like to see

[Cruz, Jaime]

EE wrote:


Does HTML5 video go to real full-screen at all?  That has not been my
experience.



HTML5 from YouTube does not... however HTML5 video when you use the 
 HTML5 tag does.  If you don't believe me, look at the videos on 
my motorcycle club's webpage and see for yourself.


http://www.nassauwings.org/cgi-local/PhotoAlbum.rex

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Re: Wishlist of things I'd like to see

[David E. Ross]

On 5/13/2014 4:24 AM, Cruz, Jaime wrote [in part]:
> After playing around with several different browsers there are a couple 
> of minor "tweaks" I'd like to see to the Seamonkey interface.
> 
> I'd like to be able to close a tab from the tab itself. Firefox, Chrome 
> and even Internet explorer put a little "x" on the left side of the tab 
> (even an inactive one) that allows you to close the tab.  With 
> Seamonkey, you have to bring the tab you want to close to the fore and 
> then mouse all the way over to the right and click the "X" over there. 
> As screens get higher and higher definitions, this gets more and more 
> inconvenient.

I only use SeaMonkey and Thunderbird.  Thunderbird has what you want.

I hate this idea!  My old eyes and old reflexes sometimes mean that,
when selecting a tab to view, I accidentally select a neighboring tab
instead.  With the X to close a tab on the far left of each tab (as you
request) or on the far right of each tab (as it appears in Thunderbird),
I am too likely to close the tab next to the tab I want to view.  This
does not happen with SeaMonkey.

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Re: Wishlist of things I'd like to see

[David E. Ross]

On 5/13/2014 12:06 PM, Rufus wrote:
> 
> ...I'd like to see all of the bugs that are preventing me from using the 
> Profile Manager fixed, and for SM to actually use my pref setting for 
> Master Password.

Do you mean bug #425145: "Hidden pref to save ID and password when
autocomplete="off" (signon.overrideAutocomplete)"?  If so, the fix for
that should already be in SeaMonkey 2.26 with a follow-up fix to bug
#956906 -- "ignore autocomplete="off" when offering to save passwords
via the password manager" -- possibly in the next SeaMonkey version
(2.27?).

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Re: SeaMonkey futures...

[Philip Taylor]

Trane Francks wrote:


SeaMonkey's lineage is directly traceable to Netscape Navigator 1.0.
SeaMonkey will effectively be having its 20th birthday this year.


Er, no (not unless you believe in time-travel !); it is /Netscape/ that
"will effectively be having its 20th birthday this year", and as someone
who has used every version from Netscape 1.0 to Seamonkey 2.17,
I would like to wish Netscape a Very Happy Birthday indeed !

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Re: SeaMonkey futures...

[Trane Francks]

On 5/14/14 5:58 AM +0900, PhillipJones wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 5/12/2014 1:40 PM PT, EE typed:

The old Mozilla suite was the predecessor of SeaMonkey.


You forgot Netscape days. :P


And Communicator before that.


Communicator were during the Netscape days.

Netscape Navigator (1994)
Netscape Communicator (1997)
Mozilla Suite (1999)
Netscape 6 & 7 (2000 & 2002) - Based on Mozilla Suite
SeaMonkey (2006)

SeaMonkey's lineage is directly traceable to Netscape Navigator 1.0. 
SeaMonkey will effectively be having its 20th birthday this year.

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Re: Wishlist of things I'd like to see

[Arnie Goetchius]

Philip Taylor wrote:
> 
> 
> Rufus wrote:
> 
>> ...I'd like to see all of the bugs that are preventing me from using the
>> Profile Manager fixed, and for SM to actually use my pref setting for
>> Master Password.
>>
>> And fix the bug for following on-disk paths for .html files so I can
>> stop having to use Safari to open my Epson Help manual.
> 
> And my wish is even simpler :  that all documented bugs are fixed before
> any further "development" takes place.
> 
> Philip Taylor

I agree with Philip Taylor. Let's have no more new stuff until existing
bugs are fixed. My pet bug is 616601 "Clicking the Home button creates
duplicates of the already opened tabs". It was reported by me and others
in 2010. According to the bug description, it was broken after Philip
Chee changed something to fix a problem with the middle button on the
mouse. You would think that ticking "Replace Tabs" in the Preferences
section would take care of this but it just does not work.
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Re: Wishlist of things I'd like to see

[Philip Taylor]

Rufus wrote:


...I'd like to see all of the bugs that are preventing me from using the
Profile Manager fixed, and for SM to actually use my pref setting for
Master Password.

And fix the bug for following on-disk paths for .html files so I can
stop having to use Safari to open my Epson Help manual.


And my wish is even simpler :  that all documented bugs are fixed before
any further "development" takes place.

Philip Taylor
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Re: Wishlist of things I'd like to see

[EE]

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

After playing around with several different browsers there are a couple
of minor "tweaks" I'd like to see to the Seamonkey interface.

I'd like to be able to close a tab from the tab itself. Firefox, Chrome
and even Internet explorer put a little "x" on the left side of the tab
(even an inactive one) that allows you to close the tab.  With
Seamonkey, you have to bring the tab you want to close to the fore and
then mouse all the way over to the right and click the "X" over there.
As screens get higher and higher definitions, this gets more and more
inconvenient.

Only one other minor tweak I'd like to see, and that's in the playback
of HTML5 video.  Chrome and Firefox have a little clickable "button" at
the bottom of the playback window that allows you to switch to full
screen.  With Seamonkey, you have to right-click to bring up the menu
and select "Full Screen" from there.

These are more "convenience" items than anything else but it would
really "simplify" the experience for users, I think.

Thanks for hearing me out.


You can close a tab by middle-clicking it.
Does HTML5 video go to real full-screen at all?  That has not been my 
experience.


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Re: Wishlist of things I'd like to see

[Steven Silvera]

  
  

My 2 cents, it seems like I've been filing bugs
  for SM for
  years for when you edit a page.  I
  collect car picture and some sites list them like a spreadsheet
  with rows and
  columns. I save those pages as an HTML file (Ctrl+E) and delete
  unwanted rows
  and columns.  I think it was during the SM 2.4 era when Delete
  Column(s)
  became only delete a column.  It is still listed at Column(s) but
  you can
  only delete one at a time, I tried highlighting 2 full columns and
  Delete
  Cell(s) but there seems to be a limit of around 10 cells, that is
  works for.  
  
It in not major, just annoying when something
  that was not broken was broken with an upgrade and never
  corrected.
  









Rufus wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:
  
  After playing around with several
different browsers there are a couple

of minor "tweaks" I'd like to see to the Seamonkey interface.


I'd like to be able to close a tab from the tab itself. Firefox,
Chrome

and even Internet explorer put a little "x" on the left side of
the tab

(even an inactive one) that allows you to close the tab.  With

Seamonkey, you have to bring the tab you want to close to the
fore and

then mouse all the way over to the right and click the "X" over
there.

As screens get higher and higher definitions, this gets more and
more

inconvenient.


Only one other minor tweak I'd like to see, and that's in the
playback

of HTML5 video.  Chrome and Firefox have a little clickable
"button" at

the bottom of the playback window that allows you to switch to
full

screen.  With Seamonkey, you have to right-click to bring up the
menu

and select "Full Screen" from there.


These are more "convenience" items than anything else but it
would

really "simplify" the experience for users, I think.


Thanks for hearing me out.


  
  
  ...I'd like to see all of the bugs that are preventing me from
  using the Profile Manager fixed, and for SM to actually use my
  pref setting for Master Password.
  
  
  And fix the bug for following on-disk paths for .html files so I
  can stop having to use Safari to open my Epson Help manual.
  
  


  

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Re: SeaMonkey futures...

[PhillipJones]

Ant wrote:

On 5/12/2014 1:40 PM PT, EE typed:

The old Mozilla suite was the predecessor of SeaMonkey.


You forgot Netscape days. :P


And Communicator before that.

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Re: mailnews.reply_header_authorwrote;

[NoOp]

On 05/13/2014 07:06 AM, RM decreed, Read These Runes!:
> Hartmut Figge wrote:
>> RM wrote:
>>>mailnews.reply_header_authorwrote is being ignored.

Works for me.

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26
Build identifier: 20140428215651

Note: I changed in about:config

>> 
>> Shouldn't you have mentioned trunk? ;) I have recently noticed the
> 
> Suppose.  Not all use View/Headers/Normal.
> 
>> appearance of 'wrote' in my replies. The beginning of this reply should
>> have been 'RM:' and not 'RM wrote:'.
>>
>> Something has changed. It may be a bug or it may have happened on
>> intent. According to my archive the window of the change is
>> 
>> hafi@i5_64 ~ $ fenster 1404240113-1404250118
>> Last good: 2014-04-23 16:13:00 PDT
>> First bad: 2014-04-24 16:18:00 PDT
>> 
>> It would require more investigation to shed light of what had happened.
>> At the moment i do not feel pressed enough. :)
> 
> If it were done away with I probably wouldn't care; it's one of those
> features that is prone towards being abused.
> 
> I'd earlier had a build failure with
> tmp/src/mailnews/base/util/nsMsgI18N.cpp:7:40
> 
> 7   #include "nsICharsetConverterManager.h"
> 40 return NS_OK;
> 
> which went away with a subsequent hg update leading me to believe
> Mail/News was in a state of flux.
> 

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Re: Wishlist of things I'd like to see

[Rufus]

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

After playing around with several different browsers there are a couple
of minor "tweaks" I'd like to see to the Seamonkey interface.

I'd like to be able to close a tab from the tab itself. Firefox, Chrome
and even Internet explorer put a little "x" on the left side of the tab
(even an inactive one) that allows you to close the tab.  With
Seamonkey, you have to bring the tab you want to close to the fore and
then mouse all the way over to the right and click the "X" over there.
As screens get higher and higher definitions, this gets more and more
inconvenient.

Only one other minor tweak I'd like to see, and that's in the playback
of HTML5 video.  Chrome and Firefox have a little clickable "button" at
the bottom of the playback window that allows you to switch to full
screen.  With Seamonkey, you have to right-click to bring up the menu
and select "Full Screen" from there.

These are more "convenience" items than anything else but it would
really "simplify" the experience for users, I think.

Thanks for hearing me out.



...I'd like to see all of the bugs that are preventing me from using the 
Profile Manager fixed, and for SM to actually use my pref setting for 
Master Password.


And fix the bug for following on-disk paths for .html files so I can 
stop having to use Safari to open my Epson Help manual.


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Re: SeaMonkey futures...

[A Williams]

Ant wrote:

On 5/11/2014 11:09 PM PT, Ray_Net typed:


But will this be forever? Will SM always be using the same design
forever? :P

I certainly hope not. I'm happy with the way things are now, but
"forever" is a long time. Circumstances do change, and I hope that when
they change enough to require a new design, the dev team will be able to
do the necessary modifications.

Any project that is not willing to adjust to new circumstances is
already dead. It just hasn't noticed it yet.


But they have no time and no money to modify drastically the product.


Didn't the original design come from Netscape Communicator days as the
suite product? My old memory is failing me. I have been using it since
then IIRC. I don't think Netscape Navigator was a suite (just a web
browser)?


http://sillydog.org/narchive/ still has the software, and the story.
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Re: mailnews.reply_header_authorwrote;

[Hartmut Figge]

Hartmut Figge wrote:

>This problem is covered in
>https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1006498. The solves the
>problem with the bustage, caused by
>https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=943268
>
>Unfortunately, the resulting SM is crippled in some ways.

Not any longer with the new patch of Philip.

Hartmut, with a new SM
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Re: mailnews.reply_header_authorwrote;

[Hartmut Figge]

RM wrote:
>Hartmut Figge wrote:

>> The problem with the reply_header though is entirely another matter.
>
>If you want to add your comments:
>
>https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1009585

Done. Thanks.

Hartmut
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Re: mailnews.reply_header_authorwrote;

[RM]

Hartmut Figge wrote:
> RM wrote:
> 
>>I'd earlier had a build failure with
>>tmp/src/mailnews/base/util/nsMsgI18N.cpp:7:40
>>
>>7   #include "nsICharsetConverterManager.h"
>>40 return NS_OK;
>>
>>which went away with a subsequent hg update leading me to believe
>>Mail/News was in a state of flux.
> 
> This problem is covered in
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1006498. The solves the
> problem with the bustage, caused by
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=943268
> 
> Unfortunately, the resulting SM is crippled in some ways. More
> unfortunately, the backout of the huge patch of Bug 943268, which
> resulted in the workable SM i am using at the moment, is not longer
> possible.
> 
> The problem with the reply_header though is entirely another matter.
> 
> Hartmut
> 

If you want to add your comments:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1009585

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Re: mailnews.reply_header_authorwrote;

[Hartmut Figge]

RM wrote:

>I'd earlier had a build failure with
>tmp/src/mailnews/base/util/nsMsgI18N.cpp:7:40
>
>7   #include "nsICharsetConverterManager.h"
>40 return NS_OK;
>
>which went away with a subsequent hg update leading me to believe
>Mail/News was in a state of flux.

This problem is covered in
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1006498. The solves the
problem with the bustage, caused by
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=943268

Unfortunately, the resulting SM is crippled in some ways. More
unfortunately, the backout of the huge patch of Bug 943268, which
resulted in the workable SM i am using at the moment, is not longer
possible.

The problem with the reply_header though is entirely another matter.

Hartmut
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Re: mailnews.reply_header_authorwrote;

[RM]

Hartmut Figge wrote:
> RM wrote:
>>mailnews.reply_header_authorwrote is being ignored.
> 
> Shouldn't you have mentioned trunk? ;) I have recently noticed the

Suppose.  Not all use View/Headers/Normal.

> appearance of 'wrote' in my replies. The beginning of this reply should
> have been 'RM:' and not 'RM wrote:'.
>
> Something has changed. It may be a bug or it may have happened on
> intent. According to my archive the window of the change is
> 
> hafi@i5_64 ~ $ fenster 1404240113-1404250118
> Last good: 2014-04-23 16:13:00 PDT
> First bad: 2014-04-24 16:18:00 PDT
> 
> It would require more investigation to shed light of what had happened.
> At the moment i do not feel pressed enough. :)

If it were done away with I probably wouldn't care; it's one of those
features that is prone towards being abused.

I'd earlier had a build failure with
tmp/src/mailnews/base/util/nsMsgI18N.cpp:7:40

7   #include "nsICharsetConverterManager.h"
40 return NS_OK;

which went away with a subsequent hg update leading me to believe
Mail/News was in a state of flux.

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Re: Wishlist of things I'd like to see

[Ed Mullen]

David Cox wrote:

On 13/05/2014 9:24 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

After playing around with several different browsers there are a couple
of minor "tweaks" I'd like to see to the Seamonkey interface.

I'd like to be able to close a tab from the tab itself. Firefox, Chrome
and even Internet explorer put a little "x" on the left side of the tab
(even an inactive one) that allows you to close the tab.  With
Seamonkey, you have to bring the tab you want to close to the fore and
then mouse all the way over to the right and click the "X" over there.
As screens get higher and higher definitions, this gets more and more
inconvenient.

You can right click on the tab. This allows you you to close the tab
even if inactive.




Or middle-click with a mouse.

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Re: mailnews.reply_header_authorwrote;

[Hartmut Figge]

RM wrote:
>mailnews.reply_header_authorwrote is being ignored.

Shouldn't you have mentioned trunk? ;) I have recently noticed the
appearance of 'wrote' in my replies. The beginning of this reply should
have been 'RM:' and not 'RM wrote:'.

Something has changed. It may be a bug or it may have happened on
intent. According to my archive the window of the change is

hafi@i5_64 ~ $ fenster 1404240113-1404250118
Last good: 2014-04-23 16:13:00 PDT
First bad: 2014-04-24 16:18:00 PDT

It would require more investigation to shed light of what had happened.
At the moment i do not feel pressed enough. :)

Hartmut
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Re: Wishlist of things I'd like to see

[Pololo]

Install SeaTab-X-2 add-on 
(https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/seatab-x-2/?src=ss).
Read the notes in About this add-on, you must modify the 
browser.tabs.closeButtons preference in about:config.



 Original Message 
*Subject: *Wishlist of things I'd like to see
*From: *Cruz, Jaime 
*To: *
*Date: *Tue May 13 2014 13:24:45 GMT+0200 (CEST)
After playing around with several different browsers there are a 
couple of minor "tweaks" I'd like to see to the Seamonkey interface.


I'd like to be able to close a tab from the tab itself. Firefox, 
Chrome and even Internet explorer put a little "x" on the left side of 
the tab (even an inactive one) that allows you to close the tab.  With 
Seamonkey, you have to bring the tab you want to close to the fore and 
then mouse all the way over to the right and click the "X" over there. 
As screens get higher and higher definitions, this gets more and more 
inconvenient.


Only one other minor tweak I'd like to see, and that's in the playback 
of HTML5 video.  Chrome and Firefox have a little clickable "button" 
at the bottom of the playback window that allows you to switch to full 
screen.  With Seamonkey, you have to right-click to bring up the menu 
and select "Full Screen" from there.


These are more "convenience" items than anything else but it would 
really "simplify" the experience for users, I think.


Thanks for hearing me out.




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Re: Wishlist of things I'd like to see

[BIll Spikowski]

Cruz, Jaime wrote:
> I'd like to be able to close a tab from the tab itself. Firefox, Chrome 
> and even Internet explorer put a little "x" on the left side of the tab 
> (even an inactive one) that allows you to close the tab.  With 
> Seamonkey, you have to bring the tab you want to close to the fore and 
> then mouse all the way over to the right and click the "X" over there. 
> As screens get higher and higher definitions, this gets more and more 
> inconvenient.
I wouldn't object to this as an option, but please let's not EVER lose
the current functionality, which allows the users to quickly view and
close multiple tabs without having to move the mouse over each tab to
locate its own "X"!

This is a key feature of Seamonkey for me. I use other browsers
occasionally, to see what's new or to deal with a difficult site; but
the clumsiness of closing multiple tabs is something I never miss when
I return to SM . . . .

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mailnews.reply_header_authorwrote;

[RM]

mailnews.reply_header_authorwrote is being ignored.

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Re: Wishlist of things I'd like to see

[David Cox]

On 13/05/2014 9:24 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

After playing around with several different browsers there are a couple
of minor "tweaks" I'd like to see to the Seamonkey interface.

I'd like to be able to close a tab from the tab itself. Firefox, Chrome
and even Internet explorer put a little "x" on the left side of the tab
(even an inactive one) that allows you to close the tab.  With
Seamonkey, you have to bring the tab you want to close to the fore and
then mouse all the way over to the right and click the "X" over there.
As screens get higher and higher definitions, this gets more and more
inconvenient.
You can right click on the tab. This allows you you to close the tab 
even if inactive.



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Wishlist of things I'd like to see

[Cruz, Jaime]

After playing around with several different browsers there are a couple 
of minor "tweaks" I'd like to see to the Seamonkey interface.


I'd like to be able to close a tab from the tab itself. Firefox, Chrome 
and even Internet explorer put a little "x" on the left side of the tab 
(even an inactive one) that allows you to close the tab.  With 
Seamonkey, you have to bring the tab you want to close to the fore and 
then mouse all the way over to the right and click the "X" over there. 
As screens get higher and higher definitions, this gets more and more 
inconvenient.


Only one other minor tweak I'd like to see, and that's in the playback 
of HTML5 video.  Chrome and Firefox have a little clickable "button" at 
the bottom of the playback window that allows you to switch to full 
screen.  With Seamonkey, you have to right-click to bring up the menu 
and select "Full Screen" from there.


These are more "convenience" items than anything else but it would 
really "simplify" the experience for users, I think.


Thanks for hearing me out.

--
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Nassau Wings Motorcycle Club
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Re: SeaMonkey futures...

[Ant]

On 5/12/2014 1:40 PM PT, EE typed:

The old Mozilla suite was the predecessor of SeaMonkey.


You forgot Netscape days. :P
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