Re: Browser - How to Hide the Menu Bar Without Extensions

2014-09-08 Thread NoOp
On 09/07/2014 02:10 PM, Edwar Cifuentes wrote:
 I tried seafox and it doesn't hide the menu bar.

Did for me... too well - I had to reload a backup localstore.rdf to get
it back. In Browser: View|Show/Hide/Menu Toolbar - uncheck. Exit
SeaMonkey  restart. You're on your own from here on out... I've
uninstalled it as I prefer menu's and grippies  every other non-firefox
feature that SeaMoney offers.


 
 On 7 September 2014 16:02, Edwar Cifuentes edwarcifuen...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The [Reply] button should have a drop-down menu. One of the items in the
 menu should be reply to list.

 There's no such option on my reply list. Only reply, reply to all and
 forward.



 Look at the code in:
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/seamonkey/addon/sea-fox/
 
 to see how it is done there, and/or ask the dev of that extention.

 It's a good idea.

 On 7 September 2014 11:40, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid wrote:

 On 09/05/2014 01:12 PM, Edwar Cifuentes wrote:
  Hello. This is the first time I join a mailing list, I hope I'm doing
  right. I apologize if I'm sending this to the wrong address.
 
  I came here because I've been trying to find a way to hide the menubar
 in
  Seamonkey 2.26 Browser *without* using extensions.
  On firefox you can do it easily by going to View-Toolbars-Menubar.
  I've already searched on the forums, asked on the IRC channel but I've
 had
  no luck. Does anyone here know?
 
  Thanks in advance
 


 Look at the code in:
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/seamonkey/addon/sea-fox/
 to see how it is done there, and/or ask the dev of that extention.

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Re: Browser - How to Hide the Menu Bar Without Extensions

2014-09-08 Thread Ray_Net

Edwar Cifuentes wrote, On 08/09/2014 00:42:

I'd like to be able to hide the menu bar just as I can hide the bookmarks
bar, status bar, etc. (not reducing them to a single line or collapsing
them but actually hiding them)
This can be done on Firefox so I expected to be able to do it on Seamonkey
as well.


You are the only one interested and expect that all people will say to 
you: Great Idea !


Let me tell you that this ability is a stupidity.
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Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

2014-09-08 Thread Ray_Net

Edwar Cifuentes wrote, On 08/09/2014 03:12:

I see. I don't like Firefox' last interface change at all. But hiding the
menu bar has been possible since previous versions. It makes it possible to
browse with a fullscreen interface without going fullscreen (with only
tab and navigation bars shown)



Nobody need hiding the SM menu bar  but 
If your screen is to small, buy another pc 
I remember in the past that some first version of WordPerfect was a REAL 
FULLSCREEN program.
You got a BLACK SCREEN . and then Untangle you to know what you can 
make
Sorry for this poor english, i cannot translate Débrouille toi pour 
savoir ce que tu peux faire.

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Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

2014-09-08 Thread Edwar Cifuentes
You are the only one interested and expect that all people will say to
you: Great Idea !

Let me tell you that this ability is a stupidity.

I know I'm not the only one who would like this to be available, but I
don't expect everyone to like it either.

Nobody need hiding the SM menu bar  but 
If your screen is to small, buy another pc

It's not because I need it, it's because it would be useful. Just an
interface tweak.
If my screen was too small and it gave me problems, the last thing I'd do
would be buying another PC.

On 8 September 2014 04:19, Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be
wrote:

 Edwar Cifuentes wrote, On 08/09/2014 03:12:

 I see. I don't like Firefox' last interface change at all. But hiding the
 menu bar has been possible since previous versions. It makes it possible
 to
 browse with a fullscreen interface without going fullscreen (with only
 tab and navigation bars shown)


  Nobody need hiding the SM menu bar  but 
 If your screen is to small, buy another pc 
 I remember in the past that some first version of WordPerfect was a REAL
 FULLSCREEN program.
 You got a BLACK SCREEN . and then Untangle you to know what you can
 make
 Sorry for this poor english, i cannot translate Débrouille toi pour
 savoir ce que tu peux faire.

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Re: Sync Problem

2014-09-08 Thread HarryKoeln
WaltS48 schrieb:
 John T Nichols wrote:
 When I try to set up sync in the Account Details window as soon as I
 type the first letter of my e-mail address I get an Invalid email
 address message and nothing else will work. Filling in an e-mail
 address does nothing, i.e. if I continue I never get an active
 Continue  button.
 
 
 Why doesn't anybody read *Release Notes*?
 
 *Known Issue*
 
 You cannot set up a new Sync account or pair a device anymore (bug 998807). 
 Workaround: Use an older
 version of SeaMonkey for such tasks for now.
 
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=998807

I can´t sync on Windows 7 64bit and Ubuntu 12.04 with Seamonkey 2.29.
In Seamonkey 2.29 the Issue is still there!?
The bug 998807 exists since April 2014.  :-(

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Re: Browser - How to Hide the Menu Bar Without Extensions

2014-09-08 Thread Chris Ilias

On 2014-09-08 5:09 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Edwar Cifuentes wrote, On 08/09/2014 00:42:



Ray, as per https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/forums/cancellation/, 
I'm removing your message from the newsgroup, because it contains a 
personal attack.


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Re: Sync Problem

2014-09-08 Thread Daniel

On 08/09/14 19:58, HarryKoeln wrote:

WaltS48 schrieb:

John T Nichols wrote:

When I try to set up sync in the Account Details window as soon as I
type the first letter of my e-mail address I get an Invalid email
address message and nothing else will work. Filling in an e-mail
address does nothing, i.e. if I continue I never get an active
Continue  button.



Why doesn't anybody read *Release Notes*?

*Known Issue*

You cannot set up a new Sync account or pair a device anymore (bug 998807). 
Workaround: Use an older
version of SeaMonkey for such tasks for now.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=998807


I can´t sync on Windows 7 64bit and Ubuntu 12.04 with Seamonkey 2.29.
In Seamonkey 2.29 the Issue is still there!?



The bug 998807 exists since April 2014.  :-(


The bug is still listed as New. The tracking flags indicate 
status-seamonkey2.29 affected


So I would think SM 2.29 *is* still affected!!

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Re: Prefer:Safe HTTP Header for Parental Control

2014-09-08 Thread WaltS48

On 09/08/2014 01:09 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

I saw in the Release Notes that there is no user interface for this.
How does someone enable Parental Control?  I want to be sure that I do
NOT do that.




So don't enable it in your OS.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/features/parental-controls

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Re: Prefer:Safe HTTP Header for Parental Control

2014-09-08 Thread Ed Mullen

WaltS48 pounded out :

On 09/08/2014 01:09 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

I saw in the Release Notes that there is no user interface for this.
How does someone enable Parental Control?  I want to be sure that I do
NOT do that.




So don't enable it in your OS.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/features/parental-controls




As Walt said it's dependent on your OS settings.

Also ...

https://blog.mozilla.org/privacy/2014/07/22/prefersafe-making-online-safety-simpler-in-firefox/



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Re: Page Display issue help needed

2014-09-08 Thread hawker

On 9/5/2014 1:08 PM, Geoff Welsh wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 05/09/14 00:06, hawker wrote:

0805 COG


Hawker, on my Linux installation, when I go to the digikey.com site, I
cannot enter the 0805 COG into the normal Search file, it just will
not let me type anything there, but, I can enter it into the field below
the normal Search field, and then I go to the same place as you except
that I don't see the big, red, 3M.

HTH



on the digikey.com first page;

the search box wraps if you change font size up and down.  So that
explains Hawker's experience

The result page, however, looks fine to me. (no 3M)

The number of search results,  9,579, is the same as yours though, so
that weird 3M you see is a misplaced image or something.

GW
on Mac


Turns out this was a Digikey Issues from some optimizing service they 
were using. I wrote the webmaster and it has been addressed. Everything 
looks good now. Still don't understand why some installations of SM had 
this issue while others did not.

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moving bookmarks from one computer to a new computer.

2014-09-08 Thread taz043
How do I move my current bookmarks to a new computer.  I read it once 
before in the Mozilla site, but I can't find it now. Thanks for any 
help...


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Re: moving bookmarks from one computer to a new computer.

2014-09-08 Thread Ed Mullen

taz043 pounded out :

How do I move my current bookmarks to a new computer.  I read it once
before in the Mozilla site, but I can't find it now. Thanks for any
help...

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This should help.

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Transferring_data_to_a_new_profile_-_SeaMonkey

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Re: moving bookmarks from one computer to a new computer.

2014-09-08 Thread Philip Taylor

taz043 wrote:


How do I move my current bookmarks to a new computer.


Maybe Bookmarks / Manage Bookmarks / Tools / Backup on current
followed by Bookmarks / Manage Bookmarks / Tools / Restore on new.

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Re: Browser - How to Hide the Menu Bar Without Extensions

2014-09-08 Thread Ray_Net

Chris Ilias wrote, On 08/09/2014 12:22:

On 2014-09-08 5:09 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Edwar Cifuentes wrote, On 08/09/2014 00:42:



Ray, as per 
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/forums/cancellation/, I'm 
removing your message from the newsgroup, because it contains a 
personal attack.


I understand your action, but this was not a personal attack, i was not 
attacking Edwar Cifuentes i was just telling that the option of hiding 
the menu bar is not a good option.

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Re: moving bookmarks from one computer to a new computer.

2014-09-08 Thread taz043

taz043 wrote:

How do I move my current bookmarks to a new computer.  I read it once
before in the Mozilla site, but I can't find it now. Thanks for any
help...

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Re: moving bookmarks from one computer to a new computer.

2014-09-08 Thread hawker

On 9/8/2014 11:47 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

taz043 pounded out :

How do I move my current bookmarks to a new computer.  I read it once
before in the Mozilla site, but I can't find it now. Thanks for any
help...

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This should help.

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Transferring_data_to_a_new_profile_-_SeaMonkey



That link says to move bookmarks.html
I thought somewhere along the 2.x trail it changed to some other data 
base and so that is not correct anymore. Can someone confirm?


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Re: moving bookmarks from one computer to a new computer.

2014-09-08 Thread taz043

taz043 wrote:

taz043 wrote:

How do I move my current bookmarks to a new computer.  I read it once
before in the Mozilla site, but I can't find it now. Thanks for any
help...

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Many thanks to Ed and Phillip, will let you know how it works out.


Thank you both again for your answer.  Ed, I tried your instructions 
first and it made this transfer real easy for this oldman to follow.





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Re: moving bookmarks from one computer to a new computer.

2014-09-08 Thread Ed Mullen

hawker pounded out :

On 9/8/2014 11:47 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

taz043 pounded out :

How do I move my current bookmarks to a new computer.  I read it once
before in the Mozilla site, but I can't find it now. Thanks for any
help...

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This should help.

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Transferring_data_to_a_new_profile_-_SeaMonkey




That link says to move bookmarks.html
I thought somewhere along the 2.x trail it changed to some other data
base and so that is not correct anymore. Can someone confirm?



Yes, it is now:  places.sqlite

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Re: moving bookmarks from one computer to a new computer.

2014-09-08 Thread Ed Mullen

taz043 pounded out :

taz043 wrote:

taz043 wrote:

How do I move my current bookmarks to a new computer.  I read it once
before in the Mozilla site, but I can't find it now. Thanks for any
help...

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Many thanks to Ed and Phillip, will let you know how it works
out.


Thank you both again for your answer.  Ed, I tried your instructions
first and it made this transfer real easy for this oldman to follow.




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stripped from replies.  See this page:


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Re: Browser - How to Hide the Menu Bar Without Extensions

2014-09-08 Thread David E. Ross
On 9/7/2014 3:42 PM, Edwar Cifuentes wrote:
 I'd like to be able to hide the menu bar just as I can hide the bookmarks
 bar, status bar, etc. (not reducing them to a single line or collapsing
 them but actually hiding them)
 This can be done on Firefox so I expected to be able to do it on Seamonkey
 as well.
 
 On 7 September 2014 16:47, David E. Ross nobody@nowhere.invalid wrote:
 
 On 9/7/2014 2:30 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
 Nobody using SeaMonkey want to hide the menu bar .. If you need
 that, stay away of SeaMonkey and use FireFox.


 You win the award for the best answer yet.

 Cifuentes wants a capability that I would never use and refuses to
 consider selecting the grippies to reduce all menu and tool bars to a
 single thin line.

 If Cifuentes were to submit and RFE bug report requesting the capability
 to hide the menu bar, he would be required to provide a use-case to
 justify the change.  However, he has never explained here why such a
 capability might be desirable, which is the same thing as providing a
 use-case.


You explain WHAT you want to do, but a use-case includes explaining WHY
you want to do that.  Generally, the WHY includes explaining why other
users might make use of the capability.

It appears that many of those whe replied in this thread do not
understand why the use of the grippies at the left of the menu,
navigation, and tool bars is not sufficient for your needs.  Please
explain what you are really trying to accomplish and why.

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Bookmarks keep disappearing for one user

2014-09-08 Thread Hana Skoumalova

Hello,

at work, we have a linux server and SeaMonkey (2.26.1) is installed in 
/usr/local/seamonkey, so all users are using the same binary. We all 
imported the old bookmarks (bookmarks.hrml) into the new version, but my 
boss has an unusal problem with them. Sometimes, when he starts SM, he 
discovers that bookmarks are missing and he has to import them anew. 
I've checked his directory .mozilla/seamonkey/.default and I've 
found several files places.sqlite.corrupt, places.sqlite-1.corrupt, etc. 
They have the same size as places.sqlite, but diff say that they differ. 
Beside them, there are also two files places.sqlite-wal and 
places.sqlite-shm. Any suggestions why his file places.sqlite gets 
corrupted?


Hana
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Re: Bookmarks keep disappearing for one user

2014-09-08 Thread Ed Mullen

Hana Skoumalova pounded out :

Hello,

at work, we have a linux server and SeaMonkey (2.26.1) is installed in
/usr/local/seamonkey, so all users are using the same binary. We all
imported the old bookmarks (bookmarks.hrml) into the new version, but my
boss has an unusal problem with them. Sometimes, when he starts SM, he
discovers that bookmarks are missing and he has to import them anew.
I've checked his directory .mozilla/seamonkey/.default and I've
found several files places.sqlite.corrupt, places.sqlite-1.corrupt, etc.
They have the same size as places.sqlite, but diff say that they differ.
Beside them, there are also two files places.sqlite-wal and
places.sqlite-shm. Any suggestions why his file places.sqlite gets
corrupted?

Hana


This refers to Firefox but ahould apply equally to SeaMonkey.

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Bookmarks_history_and_toolbar_buttons_not_working_-_Firefox

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Re: Bookmarks keep disappearing for one user

2014-09-08 Thread Hana Skoumalova

Ed Mullen wrote:

This refers to Firefox but ahould apply equally to SeaMonkey.

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Bookmarks_history_and_toolbar_buttons_not_working_-_Firefox


Thanks, I'll try all the suggestions tomorrow.

Hana

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Junk filters acting up

2014-09-08 Thread Janine Starykowicz

Using SM 2.26.1 on Win7 64-bit

SeaMonkey's junk filter is continuing to send good emails to junk instead of the folders where they belong. The junk log just 
says Detected junk message... Run other filters before junk is checked on all my filters. The emails getting caught are 
generally newsletters or through email lists (Yahoo Groups).


On the other hand, just about half my true spam/junk emails are NOT getting filtered. Many of these are obvious: spam dating 
sites, weight loss, viagra, jailed for curing disease X, you name it.


I found this, but do not see these options in SeaMonkey:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Junk_Mail_Controls

Is there a more updated version? Any extensions I could try?

I've reset training data more than once, and have at various points marked batches of 
good emails as not junk.

These emails do fit the filter criteria; when I mark them not junk from inside the junk folder they are moved to Inbox. When 
I then run filters on Inbox, they correctly filter to their assigned folders. So why is junk catching them first?


This has been happening for months at least, although not consistently. It can go days or weeks acting correctly, but since 
last night I've had to reclaim three emails.


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Re: Browser - How to Hide the Menu Bar Without Extensions

2014-09-08 Thread Ray_Net

David E. Ross wrote, On 08/09/2014 20:05:

On 9/7/2014 3:42 PM, Edwar Cifuentes wrote:

I'd like to be able to hide the menu bar just as I can hide the bookmarks
bar, status bar, etc. (not reducing them to a single line or collapsing
them but actually hiding them)
This can be done on Firefox so I expected to be able to do it on Seamonkey
as well.

On 7 September 2014 16:47, David E. Ross nobody@nowhere.invalid wrote:


On 9/7/2014 2:30 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Nobody using SeaMonkey want to hide the menu bar .. If you need
that, stay away of SeaMonkey and use FireFox.


You win the award for the best answer yet.

Cifuentes wants a capability that I would never use and refuses to
consider selecting the grippies to reduce all menu and tool bars to a
single thin line.

If Cifuentes were to submit and RFE bug report requesting the capability
to hide the menu bar, he would be required to provide a use-case to
justify the change.  However, he has never explained here why such a
capability might be desirable, which is the same thing as providing a
use-case.


You explain WHAT you want to do, but a use-case includes explaining WHY
you want to do that.  Generally, the WHY includes explaining why other
users might make use of the capability.

It appears that many of those whe replied in this thread do not
understand why the use of the grippies at the left of the menu,
navigation, and tool bars is not sufficient for your needs.  Please
explain what you are really trying to accomplish and why.


Until now, he just expect that SM must mimic FireFox :-)
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Re: Browser - How to Hide Menu Bar without Extension

2014-09-08 Thread Philip Chee
On 07/09/2014 02:25, Edwar Cifuentes wrote:
 Interesting. That very same reason is why many people come back to Firefox
 after trying Seamonkey. It's a good feature nevertheless and it should made
 easier to dissable in Seamonkey (and then brought into Firefox, just as
 Menubar should be added to View-Show/Hide on Seamonkey)

Now that we can re-show the menubar by pressing the ALT key we /can/ now
include the menu toolbar in the Show/Hide menu.

q.v. Bug 540629 - Use superior autohiding menubar in full screen mode
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=540629

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Re: Browser - How to Hide the Menu Bar Without Extensions

2014-09-08 Thread Edwar Cifuentes
Until now, he just expect that SM must mimic FireFox :-)

I just want to have one Firefox feature in SeaMonkey Browser, namely hiding
the menubar via the View menu, just as you can do with other toolbars.
So far it doesn't seem to be possible without using extensions, but if
anyone finds out I'd love to hear about it.

On 8 September 2014 14:35, Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be
wrote:

 David E. Ross wrote, On 08/09/2014 20:05:

  On 9/7/2014 3:42 PM, Edwar Cifuentes wrote:

 I'd like to be able to hide the menu bar just as I can hide the bookmarks
 bar, status bar, etc. (not reducing them to a single line or collapsing
 them but actually hiding them)
 This can be done on Firefox so I expected to be able to do it on
 Seamonkey
 as well.

 On 7 September 2014 16:47, David E. Ross nobody@nowhere.invalid wrote:

  On 9/7/2014 2:30 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

 Nobody using SeaMonkey want to hide the menu bar .. If you need
 that, stay away of SeaMonkey and use FireFox.

  You win the award for the best answer yet.

 Cifuentes wants a capability that I would never use and refuses to
 consider selecting the grippies to reduce all menu and tool bars to a
 single thin line.

 If Cifuentes were to submit and RFE bug report requesting the capability
 to hide the menu bar, he would be required to provide a use-case to
 justify the change.  However, he has never explained here why such a
 capability might be desirable, which is the same thing as providing a
 use-case.

  You explain WHAT you want to do, but a use-case includes explaining WHY
 you want to do that.  Generally, the WHY includes explaining why other
 users might make use of the capability.

 It appears that many of those whe replied in this thread do not
 understand why the use of the grippies at the left of the menu,
 navigation, and tool bars is not sufficient for your needs.  Please
 explain what you are really trying to accomplish and why.

  Until now, he just expect that SM must mimic FireFox :-)

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Re: Junk filters acting up

2014-09-08 Thread hawker

On 9/8/2014 3:04 PM, Janine Starykowicz wrote:

Using SM 2.26.1 on Win7 64-bit

SeaMonkey's junk filter is continuing to send good emails to junk
instead of the folders where they belong. The junk log just says
Detected junk message... Run other filters before junk is checked on
all my filters. The emails getting caught are generally newsletters or
through email lists (Yahoo Groups).

On the other hand, just about half my true spam/junk emails are NOT
getting filtered. Many of these are obvious: spam dating sites, weight
loss, viagra, jailed for curing disease X, you name it.

I found this, but do not see these options in SeaMonkey:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Junk_Mail_Controls

Is there a more updated version? Any extensions I could try?

I've reset training data more than once, and have at various points
marked batches of good emails as not junk.

These emails do fit the filter criteria; when I mark them not junk from
inside the junk folder they are moved to Inbox. When I then run filters
on Inbox, they correctly filter to their assigned folders. So why is
junk catching them first?

This has been happening for months at least, although not consistently.
It can go days or weeks acting correctly, but since last night I've had
to reclaim three emails.

Thanks!


Could you also have some server side Junk filtering going on?
I had the same issue, turned out to be the server side filter. I had to 
turn that off. Now that I have, and let Seamonkey handle it all it has 
worked pretty good and the only mistakes are ones that it would be easy 
to get confused on.



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Re: Junk filters acting up

2014-09-08 Thread hawker

On 9/8/2014 3:04 PM, Janine Starykowicz wrote:

Using SM 2.26.1 on Win7 64-bit

SeaMonkey's junk filter is continuing to send good emails to junk
instead of the folders where they belong. The junk log just says
Detected junk message... Run other filters before junk is checked on
all my filters. The emails getting caught are generally newsletters or
through email lists (Yahoo Groups).

On the other hand, just about half my true spam/junk emails are NOT
getting filtered. Many of these are obvious: spam dating sites, weight
loss, viagra, jailed for curing disease X, you name it.

I found this, but do not see these options in SeaMonkey:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Junk_Mail_Controls

Is there a more updated version? Any extensions I could try?

I've reset training data more than once, and have at various points
marked batches of good emails as not junk.

These emails do fit the filter criteria; when I mark them not junk from
inside the junk folder they are moved to Inbox. When I then run filters
on Inbox, they correctly filter to their assigned folders. So why is
junk catching them first?

This has been happening for months at least, although not consistently.
It can go days or weeks acting correctly, but since last night I've had
to reclaim three emails.

Thanks!


Could you also have some server side Junk filtering going on?
I had the same issue, turned out to be the server side filter. I had to 
turn that off. Now that I have, and let Seamonkey handle it all it has 
worked pretty good and the only mistakes are ones that it would be easy 
to get confused on.



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Re: Browser - How to Hide Menu Bar without Extension

2014-09-08 Thread Edwar Cifuentes
Thank you, this seems to be good news.
er, is it possible to install that patch or do I have to wait for
upcoming SeaMonkey versions?
(sorry, I've never done anything like this before)

On 8 September 2014 15:17, Philip Chee philip.c...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 07/09/2014 02:25, Edwar Cifuentes wrote:
  Interesting. That very same reason is why many people come back to
 Firefox
  after trying Seamonkey. It's a good feature nevertheless and it should
 made
  easier to dissable in Seamonkey (and then brought into Firefox, just as
  Menubar should be added to View-Show/Hide on Seamonkey)

 Now that we can re-show the menubar by pressing the ALT key we /can/ now
 include the menu toolbar in the Show/Hide menu.

 q.v. Bug 540629 - Use superior autohiding menubar in full screen mode
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=540629

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PROBLEM WITH SM 2.29

2014-09-08 Thread Larry
Used auto update on laptop, Win 7,to update from 2.26.1 to SM 2.29. 
After update all internet connections, including SM 2.29 update page, 
showed connection refused.  Same for all mail accounts and news groups.


Using IE on the same machine I was able to download and re-install 2.29 
again with same results, connection refused.


Used IE to download and re-install 2.26.1.  Problem solved, works 
perfectly except for latest security updates etc.


Is this a known problem with 2.29?  How do I get 2.29 to install 
properly in my Win 7 laptop?


Any help appreciated.

Larry
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Re: Junk filters acting up

2014-09-08 Thread Janine Starykowicz

hawker wrote:

On 9/8/2014 3:04 PM, Janine Starykowicz wrote:

Using SM 2.26.1 on Win7 64-bit

SeaMonkey's junk filter is continuing to send good emails to junk
instead of the folders where they belong. The junk log just says
Detected junk message... Run other filters before junk is checked on
all my filters. The emails getting caught are generally newsletters or
through email lists (Yahoo Groups).

On the other hand, just about half my true spam/junk emails are NOT
getting filtered. Many of these are obvious: spam dating sites, weight
loss, viagra, jailed for curing disease X, you name it.

I found this, but do not see these options in SeaMonkey:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Junk_Mail_Controls

Is there a more updated version? Any extensions I could try?

I've reset training data more than once, and have at various points
marked batches of good emails as not junk.

These emails do fit the filter criteria; when I mark them not junk from
inside the junk folder they are moved to Inbox. When I then run filters
on Inbox, they correctly filter to their assigned folders. So why is
junk catching them first?

This has been happening for months at least, although not consistently.
It can go days or weeks acting correctly, but since last night I've had
to reclaim three emails.

Thanks!


Could you also have some server side Junk filtering going on?
I had the same issue, turned out to be the server side filter. I had to turn 
that off. Now that I have, and let Seamonkey
handle it all it has worked pretty good and the only mistakes are ones that it 
would be easy to get confused on.



Unless my commercial webhost turned something on, no. There is nothing being added to the subject line, they are just going 
in to SM's junk folder. It's infrequent enough that I haven't gotten any of these on my laptop, although I do have everything 
forwarding to gmail so will check there.



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Re: PROBLEM WITH SM 2.29

2014-09-08 Thread Cruz, Jaime

Larry wrote:

Used auto update on laptop, Win 7,to update from 2.26.1 to SM 2.29.
After update all internet connections, including SM 2.29 update page,
showed connection refused.  Same for all mail accounts and news groups.

Using IE on the same machine I was able to download and re-install 2.29
again with same results, connection refused.

Used IE to download and re-install 2.26.1.  Problem solved, works
perfectly except for latest security updates etc.

Is this a known problem with 2.29?  How do I get 2.29 to install
properly in my Win 7 laptop?

Any help appreciated.

Larry


Heavy network traffic due to it being the first day it was released?  I 
didn't have any problem at work updating the copy of Seamonkey I run on 
my Windows7 computer there.


Just waiting for it to appear in Ubuntuzilla so I can update the home 
computers now.


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v2.29's addressbooks not sorting correctly in its Name column?

2014-09-08 Thread Ant
Or is it just me? I had to click on Nickname column and then click on 
Name column to fix it. I didn't have this problme in previous versions.


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Re: Password Manager Problem

2014-09-08 Thread cyberzen

Le 09/09/2014 00:50, David E. Ross a écrit :

Since updating to SeaMonkey 2.29, Password Manager does not fill-in my
passwords where my user ID is input on a separate page.  Has anyone else
seen this problem?



I do

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Re: PROBLEM WITH SM 2.29

2014-09-08 Thread W3BNR
On 9/8/2014 6:10 PM Larry submitted the following:
 Used auto update on laptop, Win 7,to update from 2.26.1 to SM 2.29.
 After update all internet connections, including SM 2.29 update page,
 showed connection refused.  Same for all mail accounts and news groups.
 
 Using IE on the same machine I was able to download and re-install 2.29
 again with same results, connection refused.
 
 Used IE to download and re-install 2.26.1.  Problem solved, works
 perfectly except for latest security updates etc.
 
 Is this a known problem with 2.29?  How do I get 2.29 to install
 properly in my Win 7 laptop?
 
 Any help appreciated.
 
 Larry

Same here.  I downloaded and installed 2.29 over 2.26.1 and mail just
sits there 'connecting to' on multiple accounts.  I had loaded 2.29.b1
and used it for about 2 days with no problem.  Reinstalled 2.26.1 which
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Re: PROBLEM WITH SM 2.29

2014-09-08 Thread cyberzen

Le 09/09/2014 02:09, W3BNR a écrit :

On 9/8/2014 6:10 PM Larry submitted the following:

Used auto update on laptop, Win 7,to update from 2.26.1 to SM 2.29.
After update all internet connections, including SM 2.29 update page,
showed connection refused.  Same for all mail accounts and news groups.

Using IE on the same machine I was able to download and re-install 2.29
again with same results, connection refused.

Used IE to download and re-install 2.26.1.  Problem solved, works
perfectly except for latest security updates etc.

Is this a known problem with 2.29?  How do I get 2.29 to install
properly in my Win 7 laptop?

Any help appreciated.

Larry


Same here.  I downloaded and installed 2.29 over 2.26.1 and mail just
sits there 'connecting to' on multiple accounts.  I had loaded 2.29.b1
and used it for about 2 days with no problem.  Reinstalled 2.26.1 which
works ok.


same for me

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Re: Password Manager Problem

2014-09-08 Thread WaltS48

On 09/08/2014 06:50 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

Since updating to SeaMonkey 2.29, Password Manager does not fill-in my
passwords where my user ID is input on a separate page.  Has anyone else
seen this problem?




If you are using the Remember Passwords extension, try disabling it.

It is no longer needed, because of the improvements to the password manager.

Passwords can now be saved via the password manager even when 
autocomplete=off was used to prevent it (see bug 956906).


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Re: Password Manager Problem

2014-09-08 Thread SamuelS

On 08-Sep-14 18:50, David E. Ross wrote:

Since updating to SeaMonkey 2.29, Password Manager does not fill-in my
passwords where my user ID is input on a separate page.  Has anyone else
seen this problem?



This is a known issue, I believe, as outlined in the 'Known Issues' 
section of the Release Notes.

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Re: Password Manager Problem

2014-09-08 Thread David E. Ross
On 9/8/2014 4:52 PM, cyberzen wrote:
 Le 09/09/2014 00:50, David E. Ross a écrit :
 Since updating to SeaMonkey 2.29, Password Manager does not fill-in my
 passwords where my user ID is input on a separate page.  Has anyone else
 seen this problem?

 
 I do
 

I just now submitted bug #1064639.  See
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1064639.

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Re: Password Manager Problem

2014-09-08 Thread David E. Ross
On 9/8/2014 5:44 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
 On 09/08/2014 06:50 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 Since updating to SeaMonkey 2.29, Password Manager does not fill-in my
 passwords where my user ID is input on a separate page.  Has anyone else
 seen this problem?

 
 
 If you are using the Remember Passwords extension, try disabling it.
 
 It is no longer needed, because of the improvements to the password manager.
 
 Passwords can now be saved via the password manager even when 
 autocomplete=off was used to prevent it (see bug 956906).
 

I removed the Remember Passwords extension as soon as I installed
SeaMonkey 2.29, before I hit this problem.

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Re: Password Manager Problem

2014-09-08 Thread David E. Ross
On 9/8/2014 5:41 PM, SamuelS wrote:
 On 08-Sep-14 18:50, David E. Ross wrote:
 Since updating to SeaMonkey 2.29, Password Manager does not fill-in my
 passwords where my user ID is input on a separate page.  Has anyone else
 seen this problem?

 
 This is a known issue, I believe, as outlined in the 'Known Issues' 
 section of the Release Notes.
 

The only mention of passwords in the Known Issues is the following:
 The Remember Passwords add-on breaks password handling. Please
 disable or uninstall this add-on using the Add-ons Manager.

Since the functionality of the Remember Passwords extension is
supposedly implemented in Toolkit's Password Manager component, I
removed the Remember Passwords extension when I installed SeaMonkey
2.29.  In any case, that extension was supposed to involve only the
saving of new passwords, not the retrieval and filling-in of passwords
in a login page.

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Re: PROBLEM WITH SM 2.29

2014-09-08 Thread W3BNR
On 9/8/2014 9:22 PM, W3BNR wrote:
 On 9/8/2014 8:09 PM, W3BNR wrote:
 On 9/8/2014 6:10 PM Larry submitted the following:
 Used auto update on laptop, Win 7,to update from 2.26.1 to SM 2.29.
 After update all internet connections, including SM 2.29 update page,
 showed connection refused.  Same for all mail accounts and news groups.

 Using IE on the same machine I was able to download and re-install 2.29
 again with same results, connection refused.

 Used IE to download and re-install 2.26.1.  Problem solved, works
 perfectly except for latest security updates etc.

 Is this a known problem with 2.29?  How do I get 2.29 to install
 properly in my Win 7 laptop?

 Any help appreciated.

 Larry

 Same here.  I downloaded and installed 2.29 over 2.26.1 and mail just
 sits there 'connecting to' on multiple accounts.  I had loaded 2.29.b1
 and used it for about 2 days with no problem.  Reinstalled 2.26.1 which
 works ok.

 
 Also when trying to send an e-mail I get an error saying SM cannot find
 my password.  It does not ask for one.  Just says it cannot find one.
 
 Ed, W3BNR
 

But it let me post this in Mozilla News.
Interesting - wonder if it's a Verizon (my server) problem?

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Re: PROBLEM WITH SM 2.29

2014-09-08 Thread W3BNR
On 9/8/2014 8:09 PM, W3BNR wrote:
 On 9/8/2014 6:10 PM Larry submitted the following:
 Used auto update on laptop, Win 7,to update from 2.26.1 to SM 2.29.
 After update all internet connections, including SM 2.29 update page,
 showed connection refused.  Same for all mail accounts and news groups.

 Using IE on the same machine I was able to download and re-install 2.29
 again with same results, connection refused.

 Used IE to download and re-install 2.26.1.  Problem solved, works
 perfectly except for latest security updates etc.

 Is this a known problem with 2.29?  How do I get 2.29 to install
 properly in my Win 7 laptop?

 Any help appreciated.

 Larry
 
 Same here.  I downloaded and installed 2.29 over 2.26.1 and mail just
 sits there 'connecting to' on multiple accounts.  I had loaded 2.29.b1
 and used it for about 2 days with no problem.  Reinstalled 2.26.1 which
 works ok.
 

Also when trying to send an e-mail I get an error saying SM cannot find
my password.  It does not ask for one.  Just says it cannot find one.

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Re: Junk filters acting up

2014-09-08 Thread Trane Francks

On 9/9/14 7:48 AM, Janine Starykowicz wrote:

hawker wrote:

On 9/8/2014 3:04 PM, Janine Starykowicz wrote:

Using SM 2.26.1 on Win7 64-bit

SeaMonkey's junk filter is continuing to send good emails to junk
instead of the folders where they belong. The junk log just says
Detected junk message... Run other filters before junk is checked on
all my filters. The emails getting caught are generally newsletters or
through email lists (Yahoo Groups).

On the other hand, just about half my true spam/junk emails are NOT
getting filtered. Many of these are obvious: spam dating sites, weight
loss, viagra, jailed for curing disease X, you name it.

I found this, but do not see these options in SeaMonkey:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Junk_Mail_Controls

Is there a more updated version? Any extensions I could try?

I've reset training data more than once, and have at various points
marked batches of good emails as not junk.

These emails do fit the filter criteria; when I mark them not junk from
inside the junk folder they are moved to Inbox. When I then run filters
on Inbox, they correctly filter to their assigned folders. So why is
junk catching them first?

This has been happening for months at least, although not consistently.
It can go days or weeks acting correctly, but since last night I've had
to reclaim three emails.

Thanks!


Could you also have some server side Junk filtering going on?
I had the same issue, turned out to be the server side filter. I had to turn 
that off. Now that I have, and let Seamonkey
handle it all it has worked pretty good and the only mistakes are ones that it 
would be easy to get confused on.



Unless my commercial webhost turned something on, no. There is nothing being 
added to the subject line, they are just going
in to SM's junk folder. It's infrequent enough that I haven't gotten any of 
these on my laptop, although I do have everything
forwarding to gmail so will check there.


Junk mail training is an ongoing process. Any time SeaMonkey marks good 
mail as junk, be sure to unmark it. Any mail that comes in that is junk 
but not correctly filtered, be sure to mark it as junk.


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