Re: Problems with Seamonkey 2.31 and 2.32

2015-01-18 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Burry wrote:

On 18.01.15 23:57, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ant wrote:


On 1/16/2015 1:53 PM, Juiceman wrote:


I have the same problem with both versions. When I go to
http://failblog.cheezburger.com/ugliesttattoos 
there is a line of links next to where you see cheezburger. If you
mouse
over them a menu will drop down automatically with a bunch of links. It
works fine with 2.30 and older versions. Also works fine with all
versions of firefox. Anybody else have this problem?


It looked fine in my v2.32 in a very old, updated Windows XP Pro SP3
machine. :)


Looks fine to me, but there are no drop-downs.

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:34.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/34.0 SeaMonkey/2.31
Build identifier: 20141202220728

AdBlock Plus 2.6.7; disabling it has no effect.


Mouseover is extremely slow, 5 to 15 seconds(xp sp3 FF ESR 24.5.0)


Tried again, waited two full minutes, nothing.

Comes up instantly on Internet Exploiter 11.0.9600.17501, update version 
11.0.15.


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Re: Problems with Seamonkey 2.31 and 2.32

2015-01-18 Thread Burry

On 18.01.15 23:57, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ant wrote:


On 1/16/2015 1:53 PM, Juiceman wrote:


I have the same problem with both versions. When I go to
http://failblog.cheezburger.com/ugliesttattoos 
there is a line of links next to where you see cheezburger. If you mouse
over them a menu will drop down automatically with a bunch of links. It
works fine with 2.30 and older versions. Also works fine with all
versions of firefox. Anybody else have this problem?


It looked fine in my v2.32 in a very old, updated Windows XP Pro SP3
machine. :)


Looks fine to me, but there are no drop-downs.

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:34.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/34.0 SeaMonkey/2.31
Build identifier: 20141202220728

AdBlock Plus 2.6.7; disabling it has no effect.


Mouseover is extremely slow,5 to 15 seconds(xp sp3 FF ESR 24.5.0)
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Using and for URLs messing up for links.

2015-01-18 Thread Ant

Hello.

I have a few receipts complain that my URLs are not clickable/linked 
(EarthLink's webmail) OR linked incorrectly (Mutt) because of  and  
usages in SeaMonkey's composers.


Is anyone else having this problem with other non-Mozilla e-mail readers 
from Mozilla users? It seems I cannot use  and  for URLs. How can I 
disable this feature when send this page feature on web pages?


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Re: platforms

2015-01-18 Thread »Q«
In news:1b2dnxuuo8asgchjnz2dnuu7-xodn...@mozilla.org,
Rufus n...@home.com wrote:

[about communication wrt level of support for different platforms]
 Be professional.  That's all I really want.

Clearly, you have a vision of a much more professional SeaMonkey
organization.  But IME, telling a community of F/LOSS volunteers what
they should do, without doing any of it yourself, is a lot like farting
in the wind.  Maybe you could open a dialog with the people who build
the releases and type up what you learn about multi-platform support in
a clear, professional manner?



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.32 released

2015-01-18 Thread Ray_Net

NoOp wrote on 18/01/2015 03:22:

On 01/17/2015 03:06 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

EE wrote on 17/01/2015 19:05:

NFN Smith wrote:

EE wrote:



I am using the latest version of Adblock Plus, 2.6.7.  It does not
block
ads with SM 2.32.  There is a large ad banner that will appear on the
first page of YouTube and it appears if I am running SM 2.32. With SM
2.31, there are no ads visible on YouTube.  Also, the toolbar button
for
Adblock Plus disappears, and it is impossible to get to the interface
for the filter lists.


Have you tried restarting in Safe Mode?  There may be something else in
your user profile that's disrupting Adblock Plus.

I've occasionally found that that simply going to Safe Mode, and then
reenabling my extensions one by one is enough to clear odd things in my
user profile.  Also, you might try an ininstall/reinstall of just
Adblock Plus.

Just to double-check, you could try adding an additional user profile,
and seeing how ABP behaves in a fresh profile.


As mentioned previously, I'm not having any problems with ABP 2.6.7 in
SM 2.32, in either Windows or Ubuntu Linux.

I guessing your problems are specific to your user profile, and not a
more general problem with the combination of ABP and SM 2.32.


Smith

Somebody finally gave me the solution (on a web forum).  The setting:
dom.indexedDB.enabled has to be set to true now in order for Adblock
Plus to work with SeaMonkey.


It's true by default in my SM ...


Your point? ... drum roll please:

From: Ray_Net
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:32.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/32.0 SeaMonkey/2.29.1
Do you say that uninstalling 2.29.1 and installing 2.32 (this is my 
method for upgrading)  will modify my profile in such a way that


dom.indexedDB.enabled  will pass from true to false ???

I don't believe that.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.32 released

2015-01-18 Thread »Q«
In news:9cgdntt7kvbnmchjnz2dnuu7-kgdn...@mozilla.org,
EE nu...@bees.wax wrote:

 Ray_Net wrote:
  EE wrote on 17/01/2015 19:05:
  NFN Smith wrote:
  EE wrote:
 
 
  I am using the latest version of Adblock Plus, 2.6.7.  It does
  not block
  ads with SM 2.32.  There is a large ad banner that will appear
  on the first page of YouTube and it appears if I am running SM
  2.32. With SM 2.31, there are no ads visible on YouTube.  Also,
  the toolbar button for
  Adblock Plus disappears, and it is impossible to get to the
  interface for the filter lists.

  Somebody finally gave me the solution (on a web forum).  The
  setting: dom.indexedDB.enabled has to be set to true now in order
  for Adblock Plus to work with SeaMonkey.
 
  It's true by default in my SM ...
 
 But I had set it to false, and nobody told me until the other day
 that I had to change it back again.

http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1079355

We should be able to set it back to false once that work gets
released, two cycles away.  In the meantime, we get to choose between
blocking ads and having so-called super cookie technology enabled.




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Re: Newsgroups/RSS Feeds And The LIke...

2015-01-18 Thread Daniel

On 18/01/15 18:18, NoOp wrote:

On 1/16/2015 10:44 AM, SamuelS wrote:

On 16-Jan-15 9:37, Daniel wrote:

On 16/01/15 05:56, Philipp van Hüllen wrote:

SamuelS schrieb:

Hello My SM Guru's... my challenge today is, since installing SM 2.32 on
a Win 8.1 desktop all of my Newsgroups/RSS feeds with the exception of
SM groups have ceased working/downloading.


Reported here:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1120067

Due to, ah, unhappy circumstances I reported this on the betas later
than possible; seems it was too late for the release.


Any ideas as to what I may have done or need to do get them all going
again?


AFAIK no solution on 2.32x so far. Please follow the ticket.

BR/Philipp


I was going to type something like..

/Ahh!! So this is why I haven't been able to connect to my
news.teranews.com UseNet server for the last two or three days using my
Linux install as shown below/

... but when I read the above bug, it's talking about RSS feeds with no
mention of Newsgroups.

Does this bug affect both RSS and Newsgroups??



Daniel,

Yes it does, at least for me as in my Subject line... I reverted back to
the previous version of SM, for now.

bo1953



RSS is broken, but all of my newsgroups on news.gmane.com (I'm
subscribed to approx 40), and news.eternal-september.org are working
just fine (linux  Windows).

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/35.0 SeaMonkey/2.32
Build identifier: 20150101215737
Via VirtualBox 4.3.20 VM on Ubuntu 14.04.1 3.16.0-30-generic

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again!! :-(


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Re: Problems with Seamonkey 2.31 and 2.32

2015-01-18 Thread Ray_Net

Daniel wrote on 18/01/2015 11:07:

On 18/01/15 10:18, Ray_Net wrote:

EE wrote on 17/01/2015 19:00:

Juiceman wrote:

I have the same problem with both versions. When I go to
http://failblog.cheezburger.com/ugliesttattoos
there is a line of links next to where you see cheezburger. If you 
mouse

over them a menu will drop down automatically with a bunch of links.It
works fine with 2.30 and older versions. Also works fine with all
versions of firefox. Anybody else have this problem?


The only place where I see a link that says cheezburger is near the
bottom of the page, and those links just open new pages.  This is true
of Firefox as well as SeaMonkey.


NO, you should read carefully the op, he said that
there is a line of links
next to where you see Chessburger

In fact in the top left corner is the word CHEEZ/Burger which is
dancing when the mouse is over-it.
Just right to that fancy animation there il a list of drop-down menus
containing links.

Anyway works for me:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:32.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/32.0 SeaMonkey/2.29.1


Now that I know what the OP is referring to (Thanks, Ray), I can say 
WFM. ;-)



I just upgraded to 2.32 and also WFM
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.32 released

2015-01-18 Thread Ray_Net

Ray_Net wrote on 18/01/2015 09:25:

NoOp wrote on 18/01/2015 03:22:

On 01/17/2015 03:06 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

EE wrote on 17/01/2015 19:05:

NFN Smith wrote:

EE wrote:



I am using the latest version of Adblock Plus, 2.6.7.  It does not
block
ads with SM 2.32.  There is a large ad banner that will appear on 
the
first page of YouTube and it appears if I am running SM 2.32. 
With SM

2.31, there are no ads visible on YouTube.  Also, the toolbar button
for
Adblock Plus disappears, and it is impossible to get to the 
interface

for the filter lists.


Have you tried restarting in Safe Mode?  There may be something 
else in

your user profile that's disrupting Adblock Plus.

I've occasionally found that that simply going to Safe Mode, and then
reenabling my extensions one by one is enough to clear odd things 
in my

user profile.  Also, you might try an ininstall/reinstall of just
Adblock Plus.

Just to double-check, you could try adding an additional user 
profile,

and seeing how ABP behaves in a fresh profile.


As mentioned previously, I'm not having any problems with ABP 
2.6.7 in

SM 2.32, in either Windows or Ubuntu Linux.

I guessing your problems are specific to your user profile, and not a
more general problem with the combination of ABP and SM 2.32.


Smith

Somebody finally gave me the solution (on a web forum).  The setting:
dom.indexedDB.enabled has to be set to true now in order for Adblock
Plus to work with SeaMonkey.


It's true by default in my SM ...


Your point? ... drum roll please:

From: Ray_Net
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:32.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/32.0 SeaMonkey/2.29.1
Do you say that uninstalling 2.29.1 and installing 2.32 (this is my 
method for upgrading)  will modify my profile in such a way that


dom.indexedDB.enabled  will pass from true to false ???

I don't believe that.



I just upgraded to 2.32 and dom.indexedDB.enabled is still true.
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Re: Too many messages

2015-01-18 Thread Daniel

On 18/01/15 04:35, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2015-01-16 8:53 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 16/01/15 14:15, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2015-01-15 7:29 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 15/01/15 22:43, Chris Ilias wrote:


No; when a message is sent to the list, a copy gets sent to your email
address. That's all.


Oh, sorry, Chris, I thought the list server just sent me one (giant)
e-mail, containing all the posts since I last connected.

How come, then, we sometimes see posts to the News Server with Subjects
like support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 105, Issue 89

Are these something different again??


Mailing list subscribers have the option of getting all messages from
that day sent in one digest.


. but not the messages posted on previous days?? Again, if I had not
been on line for a week, would I then have to File-Get Next nnn
Messages, or something?? Or would I get a weeks worth of these daily
update e-mails (Vol 105, Issues 89-95 maybe!!)??


A separate digest for each day.


(Not that I want to connect that way, yet, but) Thanks for this, Chris.

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Re: I really like Seanomkey but it's becoming impossible tu use it anymore.

2015-01-18 Thread Poldek

Ed Mullen wrote:

Poldek wrote on 1/13/2015 2:12 PM:

When Always ask me... is turned on, then it doesn't work.
If I rather choose Save files to: Downloads - then it works. I mean
files are being downloaded to Downloads. If I try to change Donloads
to some other folder - this Choose folder simply doesn't react. So i
can download to Downloads and it's much better then not being able to
download anything.


Sounds like it's time to create a new profile.



If I created new profile then I can't configure my IMAP servers because 
the SSL exception adding doesn't work. So I have to stick to the 
existing profile.

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Re: Too many messages

2015-01-18 Thread Daniel

On 18/01/15 13:30, »Q« wrote:

In news:6codnywm1a0niitjnz2dnuu7-k-dn...@mozilla.org,
Daniel dan...@albury.net.spam.au wrote:


On 16/01/15 14:15, Chris Ilias wrote:



Mailing list subscribers have the option of getting all messages
from that day sent in one digest.


 but not the messages posted on previous days?? Again, if I had
not been on line for a week, would I then have to File-Get Next nnn
Messages, or something?? Or would I get a weeks worth of these daily
update e-mails (Vol 105, Issues 89-95 maybe!!)??


Once subscribed to a list, there are three options:

  - Receive each post via e-mail.

  - Receive one digest e-mail per day;  each digest has all the posts
since the previous digest.

  - Receive nothing.

If you've selected either of the first two options, you get the e-mails
whenever you pull them from your mail server.


Thanks for this, Q.

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Re: Problems with Seamonkey 2.31 and 2.32

2015-01-18 Thread Daniel

On 18/01/15 10:18, Ray_Net wrote:

EE wrote on 17/01/2015 19:00:

Juiceman wrote:

I have the same problem with both versions. When I go to
http://failblog.cheezburger.com/ugliesttattoos
there is a line of links next to where you see cheezburger. If you mouse
over them a menu will drop down automatically with a bunch of links.It
works fine with 2.30 and older versions. Also works fine with all
versions of firefox. Anybody else have this problem?


The only place where I see a link that says cheezburger is near the
bottom of the page, and those links just open new pages.  This is true
of Firefox as well as SeaMonkey.


NO, you should read carefully the op, he said that
there is a line of links
next to where you see Chessburger

In fact in the top left corner is the word CHEEZ/Burger which is
dancing when the mouse is over-it.
Just right to that fancy animation there il a list of drop-down menus
containing links.

Anyway works for me:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:32.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/32.0 SeaMonkey/2.29.1


Now that I know what the OP is referring to (Thanks, Ray), I can say 
WFM. ;-)


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.32 released

2015-01-18 Thread Daniel

On 18/01/15 17:43, NoOp wrote:

On 01/17/2015 03:10 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Rufus wrote on 17/01/2015 20:50:

Mason83 wrote:

On 17/01/2015 13:27, Philip Chee wrote:


I only looked at windows because I only have windows. I'm an unpaid
volunteer. Would you like to buy me a Mac?


I will buy you a copy of Linux! ^_^

Regards.



...I'll chip in too!


What distribution would you give him ?

I get crazy reading this page:
http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/783109-how-to-choose-the-best-linux-desktop-for-you


Here, this will make it easy for you :-)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Linux_Distribution_Timeline.svg



I dont have problem choosing which Windows i will use, because, it's
bundled in a pc you buy. :-)



@Philip: You can easily use VMWare or VirtualBox to run various linux
distro's, within Windows - but hey, I appreciate all that you do  if
it's only Windows that you work with, then that's A-OK with me, thanks
and keep up the good work.


A couple of years ago, when you guys were having so troubles with 
producing releases (particularly GNU/Linux) (back when KaiRo was more 
heavily involved with SM), I was a bit flush with funds I was 
considering donating $1000 to the SM Consortium but I was a bit worried 
about the funds getting lost with-in Mozilla, so did nothing.


Now, after over three years later, with me, basically, having been 
unemployed for most of that time, funds are tighter so I'm, sort of, 
glad that I did nothing!! :-(


Cross-posted to and Follow-up set to m.gen.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.32 released

2015-01-18 Thread EE

Ray_Net wrote:

EE wrote on 17/01/2015 19:05:

NFN Smith wrote:

EE wrote:



I am using the latest version of Adblock Plus, 2.6.7.  It does not
block
ads with SM 2.32.  There is a large ad banner that will appear on the
first page of YouTube and it appears if I am running SM 2.32. With SM
2.31, there are no ads visible on YouTube.  Also, the toolbar button
for
Adblock Plus disappears, and it is impossible to get to the interface
for the filter lists.



Have you tried restarting in Safe Mode?  There may be something else in
your user profile that's disrupting Adblock Plus.

I've occasionally found that that simply going to Safe Mode, and then
reenabling my extensions one by one is enough to clear odd things in my
user profile.  Also, you might try an ininstall/reinstall of just
Adblock Plus.

Just to double-check, you could try adding an additional user profile,
and seeing how ABP behaves in a fresh profile.


As mentioned previously, I'm not having any problems with ABP 2.6.7 in
SM 2.32, in either Windows or Ubuntu Linux.

I guessing your problems are specific to your user profile, and not a
more general problem with the combination of ABP and SM 2.32.


Smith


Somebody finally gave me the solution (on a web forum).  The setting:
dom.indexedDB.enabled has to be set to true now in order for Adblock
Plus to work with SeaMonkey.


It's true by default in my SM ...


But I had set it to false, and nobody told me until the other day that I 
had to change it back again.


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Re: Problems with Seamonkey 2.31 and 2.32

2015-01-18 Thread EE

Ray_Net wrote:

EE wrote on 17/01/2015 19:00:

Juiceman wrote:

I have the same problem with both versions. When I go to
http://failblog.cheezburger.com/ugliesttattoos
there is a line of links next to where you see cheezburger. If you mouse
over them a menu will drop down automatically with a bunch of links.It
works fine with 2.30 and older versions. Also works fine with all
versions of firefox. Anybody else have this problem?


The only place where I see a link that says cheezburger is near the
bottom of the page, and those links just open new pages.  This is true
of Firefox as well as SeaMonkey.


NO, you should read carefully the op, he said that
there is a line of links
next to where you see Chessburger

In fact in the top left corner is the word CHEEZ/Burger which is
dancing when the mouse is over-it.
Just right to that fancy animation there il a list of drop-down menus
containing links.

Anyway works for me:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:32.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/32.0 SeaMonkey/2.29.1


Oh, right at the top.  I did a search for cheezburger and the finder 
did not find it.  Yes, the menus work for me.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.32 released

2015-01-18 Thread PhillipJones

Ray_Net wrote:

Rufus wrote on 17/01/2015 20:50:

Mason83 wrote:

On 17/01/2015 13:27, Philip Chee wrote:


I only looked at windows because I only have windows. I'm an unpaid
volunteer. Would you like to buy me a Mac?


I will buy you a copy of Linux! ^_^

Regards.



...I'll chip in too!


What distribution would you give him ?

I get crazy reading this page:
http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/783109-how-to-choose-the-best-linux-desktop-for-you


I dont have problem choosing which Windows i will use, because, it's
bundled in a pc you buy. :-)
If you buy a new Mac It comes with the latest system out for that 
machine at the time its shipped.


IF you have your own Keyboard and Monitor you can get a Mac Mini for as 
low as $499.00 for low end Model. As long as key board is a USB 2 or 3 
Keyboard will do just fine. Would be nice to use a Mac formatted 
Keyboard but can use a PC keyboard.


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Re: Problems with Seamonkey 2.31 and 2.32

2015-01-18 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Ant wrote:


On 1/16/2015 1:53 PM, Juiceman wrote:


I have the same problem with both versions. When I go to
http://failblog.cheezburger.com/ugliesttattoos 
there is a line of links next to where you see cheezburger. If you mouse
over them a menu will drop down automatically with a bunch of links. It
works fine with 2.30 and older versions. Also works fine with all
versions of firefox. Anybody else have this problem?


It looked fine in my v2.32 in a very old, updated Windows XP Pro SP3
machine. :)


Looks fine to me, but there are no drop-downs.

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:34.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/34.0 SeaMonkey/2.31

Build identifier: 20141202220728

AdBlock Plus 2.6.7; disabling it has no effect.

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Re: Problems with Seamonkey 2.31 and 2.32

2015-01-18 Thread Ant

On 1/16/2015 1:53 PM, Juiceman wrote:


I have the same problem with both versions. When I go to
http://failblog.cheezburger.com/ugliesttattoos
there is a line of links next to where you see cheezburger. If you mouse
over them a menu will drop down automatically with a bunch of links.It
works fine with 2.30 and older versions. Also works fine with all
versions of firefox. Anybody else have this problem?


It looked fine in my v2.32 in a very old, updated Windows XP Pro SP3 
machine. :)

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SM crash in StreetView solved by 2.32

2015-01-18 Thread Ray_Net

When there is a good news, it must be said.
I had several SM crashes when moving around the streets in StreetView of 
GoogleMaps.

I juste upgraded to SM 2.32 and I am now unable to reproduce a crash.
Thank you to the volunteers who work for us !
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.32 released

2015-01-18 Thread PhillipJones

NoOp wrote:

On 01/17/2015 03:10 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Rufus wrote on 17/01/2015 20:50:

Mason83 wrote:

On 17/01/2015 13:27, Philip Chee wrote:


I only looked at windows because I only have windows. I'm an unpaid
volunteer. Would you like to buy me a Mac?


I will buy you a copy of Linux! ^_^

Regards.



...I'll chip in too!


What distribution would you give him ?

I get crazy reading this page:
http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/783109-how-to-choose-the-best-linux-desktop-for-you


Here, this will make it easy for you :-)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Linux_Distribution_Timeline.svg



I dont have problem choosing which Windows i will use, because, it's
bundled in a pc you buy. :-)



@Philip: You can easily use VMWare or VirtualBox to run various linux
distro's, within Windows - but hey, I appreciate all that you do  if
it's only Windows that you work with, then that's A-OK with me, thanks
and keep up the good work.


You can get a Mac mini for for as Little as $499.00 If you want to work 
on SeaMonkey for Mac need to supply your own Keyboard and Monitor.


Note: this is a Suggestion for Phil Chee who asked about someone buying 
him a Mac to work on SeaMonkey Mac.


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SeaMonkey 2.32, problem with MathJax

2015-01-18 Thread Cesar Romani
I'm using SeaMonkey 2.32 on Windows 7.
With the previous version of SeaMonkey, I haven't had any problem looking at 
pages with MatJax embedded. Now, with this present version, 2.32, some symbols 
don't show up.
If I use Firefox 34.0.5 I don't have any problem at all.

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Re: platforms [was: SeaMonkey 2.32 released]

2015-01-18 Thread Rufus

Miles Fidelman wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:



...I'd like you to be more specific in the Release Notes.

Some one of you has a Mac - the task should have been passed off to that
individual.  If nobody can do that job, then perhaps you should stop
releasing a Mac version.



Sure.

Instead of trying to recruit some people that know Mac. Continue on
with the treating Mac's as play toys and Mac users as second class
citizens, since they came on the, air and Macs came on Market, over 20
years ago.


As a long-time Mac user, I can relate to the sentiment.  [Note that I
also use Windows (current employer), Linux (server farm that I manage,
used to be Solaris, and Android (cell phone), and support my wife and
kids' iPads and iPhones - so not coming from a fanboy perspective.]


Mac, iPhone, iPads are the fast growing Market in computer industry
today.


I could swear that it's Android.


Apple  is making the Most money of any Computer Tech company in
existence today.


Right up there, but don't count out Samsung, Foxconn, HP, IBM, Google,
etc.  Not sure if I completely trust Wikipedia as a source, but it's
listing samsung as no. 1 right now.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_largest_information_technology_companies)


Its seems the majority of people have rebelled against being treated
as 5 year old children with Shinny buttons and want the experience of
actually using a computer. Laid out like a computer. For PC people
System 7 was the best and 10 will apparently back track some what, to
System 7 at least in look and feel, If not operation. MS is even
planing to Retire IE, and come out with a Shinny new replacement that
works like Safari and Chrome.


At least some of us still swear by XP - to the extent that corporations
are paying 3rd parties for post-end-of-life support.

Miles Fidelman



Where I work we have tools that still require XP, and need that 
support...end of life for XP is a real problem, and I can sympathize 
with that!


I don't really care about who has what share of what - I'm all for 
freedom of choice and what someone uses depends on what they want to 
*do* IMO, and doesn't bother me a whit.  But I do care about truth in 
advertizing, quality control, and the *whole* job getting done, when and 
if it's supposedly being done.


By it's very nature, if someone is going to sign on to do multi-platform 
releases of a product they have taken on a *huge* task...I would think - 
and hope - that people that do this actually understand that and tool up 
to support each platform equally in the interests of their own integrity 
and quality control from the *start*.


If they can't or aren't willing to do this then I'd rather they just 
plain stay out of the multi-platform arena and do the best with and for 
what they choose, rather than to have them releasing sub-quality or 
non-equivalent quality versions for non-primary platforms just for show.


And then *whining* about how whomever they've slighted isn't worth the 
trouble anyway because they don't amount to much...that's just 
*really* poor form, and destroys any respect that should be due 
volunteerism.  I mean, SERIOUSLY?  Just be clear and concise about 
limitations and intent so clear choices can be made, and cut the 
whining.  Be professional.  That's all I really want.


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