Re: Cookie or sniffing issue:?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Mason83 wrote:


On 23/11/2015 04:34, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Wish I knew how your configuration differed from mine. But with
hundreds of user-configurable prefs, where to look?


Does it work with a fresh profile with no add-ons?

If so, then you can use diff to locate the differences.


A quick test in Safe Mode with all add-ons disabled and cookie prefs set 
to slut mode (accept everything from everyone) was unhelpful -- same issue.


Are there other things in the profile that could be relevant?

Just because the error message blames cookie handling I'm not assuming 
it's a cookie issue. Lots of programmers write error-handling routines 
that blame the wrong party.


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Re: "Save View as a Folder..." broken

[Mason83]

On 19/11/2015 01:40, Edmund Wong wrote:
> Tom S. wrote:
>> On 11/18/2015 3:42 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:
>>> Tom S. wrote:
 Hi,
 Before upgrading to the latest version of SeaMonkey (v.2.39), in the
 mail/newsgroups/blogs window, under View, I could select "Save View as a
 Folder..." after filtering messages with a Search. But now, it doesn't
 work. What happened and how do I get it back without going back to the
 older version that worked (v.2.35)?

>>>
>>> By "it doesn't work", do  you mean it doesn't show the folder
>>> name that you've selected in the Choose Folder dropdown box?
>>>
>>> Or do you mean something else?
>>>
>>> Edmund
>>>
>>
>> I am able to put a keyword in the Search Messages box and filter a blog
>> based on that. This part still works. But then, I used to be able to
>> select "Save View as a Folder" from the View drop down box and it would
>> show next to "Create as a subfolder of" the blog folder being filtered.
>> But now it only shows a little folder icon.
>>
>> It also drops down to show the folders, but if you select one, it will
>> still not show anything but the little folder icon. Under "Match all or
>> any..." the box it is completely blank. It cannot save the view.
> 
> Right.  I can definitely reproduce this.
> 
> I've filed bug 1226048.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1226048

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Re: Cookie or sniffing issue:?

[Mason83]

On 23/11/2015 04:34, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

> Wish I knew how your configuration differed from mine. But with hundreds 
> of user-configurable prefs, where to look?

Does it work with a fresh profile with no add-ons?

If so, then you can use diff to locate the differences.

Regards.

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Re: Cookie or sniffing issue:?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Kevin L. Hill wrote:


I'm using: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/41.0 SeaMonkey/2.38.

Cookie Acceptance Policy:   Allow cookies for the originating website
only (no third-party cookies)

Cookie Retention Policy:  Accept for the current session only


Yes, these are my stated defaults, the ones the error page says won't work.


I have two cookies for: www.dot3.state.pa.us
and two cookies for: www.dmv.pa.gov


Interesting, I don't get anything from www.dot3.state.pa.us, except on IE.


The site is also happy with me entering from Los Angeles.  Obviously, I
haven't put is a title # or plate # etc.

Anything else I can try for you?


Wish I knew how your configuration differed from mine. But with hundreds 
of user-configurable prefs, where to look?


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Re: Cookie or sniffing issue:?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/22/2015 6:55 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

I'm trying to renew my vehicle registration with the Pennsylvania
Department of Motor Vehicles (PennDOT), but the site seems to be broken
in a way I can't figure out (I've done this for 10 years running and
it's never been a problem until now). And the gist of PennDOT's response
is, "it works on my machine, so it must be your fault and I refuse to help."

I begin here: , which immediately redirects to
. In the menu on
the left, I click "Renew Your Vehicle Registration," which ostensibly
points to
,
but instead redirects me to an error page at
:

"We Cannot Process Your Request. The service you have selected uses
non-persistent cookies. Your browser is not currently set up to allow
non-persistent cookies."

Now, my default cookie policy is to accept only first-party session
cookies, but apparently they want me to accept third-party cookies
without time restriction. So I clear cache and cookies, set the prefs at
Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security | Cookies to
(•) Allow all cookies
(•) Accept cookies normally
and restart the browser. When I return, nothing has changed -- PennDOT
still says I'm not set up to accept their cookies. I check the Cookie
Manager, and I have two cookies from pa.gov and four from www.pa.dmv.gov
but none from any third-party site.

So my questions are:

1) Has the webmaster miscoded his cookie-setting/reading routine,
causing it to fail? This doesn't happen with Internet Exploiter 11.

2) Could the webmaster be using a bad sniffer that rejects SM out of hand?

3) Is there an issue with SeaMonkey's processing of cookies, such that
it doesn't handle some cookies even though it says it will?

Thanks.



Windows 7 Ultimate SP 1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.39  (NOTE:  "Advertise Firefox compatibility" is disabled.)
Cookies from domain only

I tried the link  and got
.  From there, I
tried "Renew Your Vehicle Registration" at
 and
got "Online Vehicle Services Login" at
.


Yes, this is what IE does on my machine. The hashes at the ends are 
slightly different, but that's all.


I tried copy/pasting my 
 link 
from IE into SM and was redirected back to the error page.



I cannot go further because I live in California, which is where my cars
are registered.


That's fine, you got to the page I'm trying to reach. If the system 
would let me try, I'd renew, but it refuses to talk to me.



Maybe you should try disabling "Advertise Firefox compatibility".


Hmm... A site that accepts SeaMonkey but rejects Firefox? Would that it 
were so! Darn, no help. Thanks anyway.


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Re: Cookie or sniffing issue:?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

John Duncan wrote:


It seems as if it could be any of those issues. The strange part is,
I just tried this, and was not [led] to any error page whatsoever.
Seems to work on my machine. Have you tried using a clean/test
profile?


No, but I have tried disabling AdBlock Plus everywhere, and it didn't 
help. On the other hand, I also have ABP installed on IE, with the same 
subscriptions, and the page works, so that shouldn't be the problem.


The problem with troubleshooting a third-party cookie issue (if that's 
indeed what it is -- I've seen lots of error messages over the years 
that had nothing to do with the problem) is that I have no idea what 
site needs to set/read the cookie(s). So I can't go into the Data 
Manager and check the permissions for that site.


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Re: Cookie or sniffing issue:?

[Kevin L. Hill]

On 11/22/2015 06:55 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

> 1) Has the webmaster miscoded his cookie-setting/reading routine,
> causing it to fail? This doesn't happen with Internet Exploiter 11.
> 
> 2) Could the webmaster be using a bad sniffer that rejects SM out of hand?
> 
> 3) Is there an issue with SeaMonkey's processing of cookies, such that
> it doesn't handle some cookies even though it says it will?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
I'm using: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/41.0 SeaMonkey/2.38.

Cookie Acceptance Policy:   Allow cookies for the originating website
only (no third-party cookies)

Cookie Retention Policy:  Accept for the current session only

I have two cookies for: www.dot3.state.pa.us
and two cookies for: www.dmv.pa.gov

The site is also happy with me entering from Los Angeles.  Obviously, I
haven't put is a title # or plate # etc.

Anthing else I can try for you?

Kevin
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Re: Cookie or sniffing issue:?

[David E. Ross]

On 11/22/2015 6:55 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> I'm trying to renew my vehicle registration with the Pennsylvania 
> Department of Motor Vehicles (PennDOT), but the site seems to be broken 
> in a way I can't figure out (I've done this for 10 years running and 
> it's never been a problem until now). And the gist of PennDOT's response 
> is, "it works on my machine, so it must be your fault and I refuse to help."
> 
> I begin here: , which immediately redirects to 
> . In the menu on 
> the left, I click "Renew Your Vehicle Registration," which ostensibly 
> points to 
> , 
> but instead redirects me to an error page at 
> :
> 
> "We Cannot Process Your Request. The service you have selected uses 
> non-persistent cookies. Your browser is not currently set up to allow 
> non-persistent cookies."
> 
> Now, my default cookie policy is to accept only first-party session 
> cookies, but apparently they want me to accept third-party cookies 
> without time restriction. So I clear cache and cookies, set the prefs at 
> Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security | Cookies to
> (•) Allow all cookies
> (•) Accept cookies normally
> and restart the browser. When I return, nothing has changed -- PennDOT 
> still says I'm not set up to accept their cookies. I check the Cookie 
> Manager, and I have two cookies from pa.gov and four from www.pa.dmv.gov 
> but none from any third-party site.
> 
> So my questions are:
> 
> 1) Has the webmaster miscoded his cookie-setting/reading routine, 
> causing it to fail? This doesn't happen with Internet Exploiter 11.
> 
> 2) Could the webmaster be using a bad sniffer that rejects SM out of hand?
> 
> 3) Is there an issue with SeaMonkey's processing of cookies, such that 
> it doesn't handle some cookies even though it says it will?
> 
> Thanks.
> 

Windows 7 Ultimate SP 1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.39  (NOTE:  "Advertise Firefox compatibility" is disabled.)
Cookies from domain only

I tried the link  and got
.  From there, I
tried "Renew Your Vehicle Registration" at
 and
got "Online Vehicle Services Login" at
.


I cannot go further because I live in California, which is where my cars
are registered.

Maybe you should try disabling "Advertise Firefox compatibility".

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Re: Cookie or sniffing issue:?

[John Duncan]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

I'm trying to renew my vehicle registration with the Pennsylvania
Department of Motor Vehicles (PennDOT), but the site seems to be broken
in a way I can't figure out (I've done this for 10 years running and
it's never been a problem until now). And the gist of PennDOT's response
is, "it works on my machine, so it must be your fault and I refuse to
help."

I begin here: , which immediately redirects to
. In the menu on
the left, I click "Renew Your Vehicle Registration," which ostensibly
points to
,
but instead redirects me to an error page at
:

"We Cannot Process Your Request. The service you have selected uses
non-persistent cookies. Your browser is not currently set up to allow
non-persistent cookies."

Now, my default cookie policy is to accept only first-party session
cookies, but apparently they want me to accept third-party cookies
without time restriction. So I clear cache and cookies, set the prefs at
Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security | Cookies to
(•) Allow all cookies
(•) Accept cookies normally
and restart the browser. When I return, nothing has changed -- PennDOT
still says I'm not set up to accept their cookies. I check the Cookie
Manager, and I have two cookies from pa.gov and four from www.pa.dmv.gov
but none from any third-party site.

So my questions are:

1) Has the webmaster miscoded his cookie-setting/reading routine,
causing it to fail? This doesn't happen with Internet Exploiter 11.

2) Could the webmaster be using a bad sniffer that rejects SM out of hand?

3) Is there an issue with SeaMonkey's processing of cookies, such that
it doesn't handle some cookies even though it says it will?

Thanks.

It seems as if it could be any of those issues. The strange part is, I 
just tried this, and was not lead to any error page whatsoever. Seems to 
work on my machine. Have you tried using a clean/test profile?

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Cookie or sniffing issue:?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

I'm trying to renew my vehicle registration with the Pennsylvania 
Department of Motor Vehicles (PennDOT), but the site seems to be broken 
in a way I can't figure out (I've done this for 10 years running and 
it's never been a problem until now). And the gist of PennDOT's response 
is, "it works on my machine, so it must be your fault and I refuse to help."


I begin here: , which immediately redirects to 
. In the menu on 
the left, I click "Renew Your Vehicle Registration," which ostensibly 
points to 
, 
but instead redirects me to an error page at 
:


"We Cannot Process Your Request. The service you have selected uses 
non-persistent cookies. Your browser is not currently set up to allow 
non-persistent cookies."


Now, my default cookie policy is to accept only first-party session 
cookies, but apparently they want me to accept third-party cookies 
without time restriction. So I clear cache and cookies, set the prefs at 
Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security | Cookies to

(•) Allow all cookies
(•) Accept cookies normally
and restart the browser. When I return, nothing has changed -- PennDOT 
still says I'm not set up to accept their cookies. I check the Cookie 
Manager, and I have two cookies from pa.gov and four from www.pa.dmv.gov 
but none from any third-party site.


So my questions are:

1) Has the webmaster miscoded his cookie-setting/reading routine, 
causing it to fail? This doesn't happen with Internet Exploiter 11.


2) Could the webmaster be using a bad sniffer that rejects SM out of hand?

3) Is there an issue with SeaMonkey's processing of cookies, such that 
it doesn't handle some cookies even though it says it will?


Thanks.

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Re: Netflix SM 2.39

[sumrall . t . m]

Thank you SO much, Jonathan. I was having the same issue as Ari above, and you 
fixed me right up.
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Re: Netflix problem

[sumrall . t . m]

Thank you VERY much for the link, Walt.
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Re: Netflix problem

[WaltS48]

On 11/22/2015 05:12 PM, George wrote:

George wrote:

Gentlemen,

I am currently using Seamonkey 2.39 on windows 8 and cannot fully get
Netflix.  Prior to this time I have always received Netflix. Is this
caused due to the fact that I updated Seamonkey?

Also I can receive Netflix properly with Internet Explorer.

It is more convenient for me to receive Netflix on Seamonkey and
Internet Explorer.  Is there anything that I can do to receiver
Netflix again on Seamonkey?

Thank you for any assistance you may be able to provide me.

Very truly yours,

George Achilles






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Re: Netflix problem

[George]

George wrote:

Gentlemen,

I am currently using Seamonkey 2.39 on windows 8 and cannot fully get 
Netflix.  Prior to this time I have always received Netflix. Is this 
caused due to the fact that I updated Seamonkey?


Also I can receive Netflix properly with Internet Explorer.

It is more convenient for me to receive Netflix on Seamonkey and 
Internet Explorer.  Is there anything that I can do to receiver 
Netflix again on Seamonkey?


Thank you for any assistance you may be able to provide me.

Very truly yours,

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Re: Warning of Registry Error - Call 800 - Blah Blah Blah !

[Ray_Net]

Arnie Goetchius wrote on 22/11/2015 17:07:

DoctorBill wrote:

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Every once in a while I get stuck in a
"Warningregistry virus error..."

It stops everything on SM.
SM does not respond.   Can't get out.

Says I have to call some 800 number to get my
computer back - big long worded thing that repeats
itself.

I have been able to get out only by repeated
ALT-F4 and restarting Windows (XP) and then after
a while of that, by clicking on the icon below and
clicking "Close".  I can't remember exactly what I
do, but eventually it goes away.

Is this the "Extortion Virus" thing out of Russia
I have heard about ?

What is the best way to get out of it ?
BTW - I can't find any FREE virus checkers that
work in XP.  My computer is too old to run the new
Windows.

DoctorBill

As a reply to EVERYONE who has "suggested" solutions comprised of BUYING a new
computer and employing Windows 10 - Most of you seem to think that money just
grows in my garden like weeds.

An older retired person on a fixed income cannot just go out and buy a compuker
that has Windows 10 on it !

Life is not always so simpleI figured this thing out myself, as per usual,
and just press Alt-F4 rapidly and often and THAT works to bug out of whatever
this problem is.

One of you gave me a link to a MalewareBytes that DOES work in Windows XP.
Thanks to that individual.  It IS working now.

I have inquired about BUYING Windows 10 for my system which has a Celeron D 3.33
GHz CPU with 2 GB of Memory and 2 TB of HD.  I am told - DON'T DO IT !  May run
but would have problems with 'Drivers'.
I don't know enough to spend $$ to try it and don't trust Salespeople to not
screw me into the ground.

Thanks to those who actually helped me.



I'm with you. Twenty years into fixed income retirement and well into 9th
decade. I have one XP SP3 and one Win 7 going strong. I note that you said you
were on XP SP2. Is there any reason you can apply the free upgrade to XP SP3?


I don't know where to get and/or apply SP3.

If I get it from Microsoft, won't they zap my XP so I can't use it ?  I trust
Microsoft about as far as I could throw Bill Gates.

Then - even if I could get SP3 - would it make my XP unstable.

Consider that I have a stable system now and if it goes TU, then I am screwed.
I have the system disks and would have to wipe my Hard Drive and start
COMPLETELY over !

Long story short - Is it safe to apply SP3 ?
 From where ?

I don't see any problem with applying SP3 but you need to do a system backup
first in case of a screwup.

Backup and Restore Video here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZrX4Vb4ui4

Install XP SP3 Video here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYd-oZxPdX0


If he got a problem because he have a third-party wireless network 
adapter unsupported by Windows XP SP3...

You will go to his house to correct his problem ?
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Re: Passwords do not transfer when updating

[David E. Ross]

On 11/22/2015 10:26 AM, Norman Fuchs wrote:
> I have been running SM 2.26.1 for some time, and I thought it would be a 
> good thing to update to a recent version.  However, when I do so, I lose 
> all my passwords.  Well, not really lose -- if I revert to 2.26.1, they 
> are all there.  They just don't show up after I update.  That's true no 
> matter if I update to 2.35, 2.38 or 2.39.  I've tried to use Mozbackup, 
> but the same thing happens there.  I've also used Password Exporter, but 
> with the same result, even though it reports that all passwords were 
> imported into the new version.
> 
> Would anyone please help me?
> 

I had that problem.  Here is my work-around:

1.  Using the Password Exporter extension in SeaMonkey 2.26.1, I
exported all my passwords to a CSV file.

2.  I deleted all my passwords.

3.  I deleted my master password.

4.  I removed the Remember Passwords extension.

5.  I updated to SeaMonkey 2.35 (the latest version available when I
finally decided to abandon 2.26.1).

6.  Using the Password Exporter extension in SeaMonkey 2.35, I imported
my passwords from the CSV file.

7.  I set my master password.

If you do not already have Password Exporter (from
)
installed, you will have to download it and convert it for SeaMonkey
compatibility at  before
installing it.  Whenever I update SeaMonkey, I copy all my profiles into
my  directory; this can be very important if I have to
revert back to a prior version of SeaMonkey.

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Re: Passwords do not transfer when updating

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Norman Fuchs wrote:


I have been running SM 2.26.1 for some time, and I thought it would
be a good thing to update to a recent version.  However, when I do
so, I lose all my passwords.  Well, not really lose -- if I revert to
2.26.1, they are all there.  They just don't show up after I update.
That's true no matter if I update to 2.35, 2.38 or 2.39.  I've tried
to use Mozbackup, but the same thing happens there.  I've also used
Password Exporter, but with the same result, even though it reports
that all passwords were imported into the new version.


Do you used the "Remember Passwords" add-on by chance? There's a known 
issue in the release notes, and has been since 2.29:


"The Remember Passwords add-on breaks password handling. Please disable 
or uninstall this add-on using the Add-ons Manager."


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Re: Passwords do not transfer when updating

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

Norman Fuchs wrote:

I have been running SM 2.26.1 for some time, and I thought it would be a
good thing to update to a recent version.  However, when I do so, I lose
all my passwords.  Well, not really lose -- if I revert to 2.26.1, they
are all there.  They just don't show up after I update.  That's true no
matter if I update to 2.35, 2.38 or 2.39.  I've tried to use Mozbackup,
but the same thing happens there.  I've also used Password Exporter, but
with the same result, even though it reports that all passwords were
imported into the new version.

Would anyone please help me?


Before updating, change the master password to blank (Edit > Preferences 
> Privacy & Security > Master Passwords > Change Password...). You can 
set it again after upgrading.


Also disable any password-related add-ons; "Remember Passwords" in 
particular is known to cause problems in newer versions of SeaMonkey, 
but it's possible that other add-ons do too.


Mark.

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Re: [linux 64bit No Updates Found] Re: SeaMonkey 2.39 released

[sean . nathan]

NoOp wrote:

On 11/8/2015 7:40 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.39!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.39b1, see the What's
New in SeaMonkey 2.39 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.



I goofed up... again.  The above should say "For a complete list of
changes in SeaMonkey 2.39..."   C&P&E fail.

My apologies.

Edmund



Current SeaMonkey linux 64bit version:

version 2.38
 You are currently on the release update channel.
 See a list of contributors to the Mozilla Project.
 Read the licensing information for this product.
 Read the release notes for this version.
 See the build configuration used for this version.
 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/41.0 SeaMonkey/2.38
 Build identifier: 20150923193515

Checking for updates:

Help|Check for Updates
===> "No Updates Found" "There are not updates available. Please check
again later or enable SeaMonkey's automatic update checking."

Why "no updates found"?




editing error perchance? since the 64 bit linux version hit ubuntuzilla 
ppa late on 11/12 or early 11/13?


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Re: Warning of Registry Error - Call 800 - Blah Blah Blah !

[EE]

Ray_Net wrote:

DoctorBill wrote on 22/11/2015 16:37:

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Every once in a while I get stuck in a
"Warningregistry virus error..."

It stops everything on SM.
SM does not respond.   Can't get out.

Says I have to call some 800 number to get my
computer back - big long worded thing that repeats
itself.

I have been able to get out only by repeated
ALT-F4 and restarting Windows (XP) and then after
a while of that, by clicking on the icon below and
clicking "Close".  I can't remember exactly what I
do, but eventually it goes away.

Is this the "Extortion Virus" thing out of Russia
I have heard about ?

What is the best way to get out of it ?
BTW - I can't find any FREE virus checkers that
work in XP.  My computer is too old to run the new
Windows.

DoctorBill


As a reply to EVERYONE who has "suggested" solutions comprised of
BUYING a new
computer and employing Windows 10 - Most of you seem to think that
money just
grows in my garden like weeds.

An older retired person on a fixed income cannot just go out and buy
a compuker
that has Windows 10 on it !

Life is not always so simpleI figured this thing out myself, as
per usual,
and just press Alt-F4 rapidly and often and THAT works to bug out of
whatever
this problem is.

One of you gave me a link to a MalewareBytes that DOES work in
Windows XP.
Thanks to that individual.  It IS working now.

I have inquired about BUYING Windows 10 for my system which has a
Celeron D 3.33
GHz CPU with 2 GB of Memory and 2 TB of HD.  I am told - DON'T DO IT
!  May run
but would have problems with 'Drivers'.
I don't know enough to spend $$ to try it and don't trust
Salespeople to not
screw me into the ground.

Thanks to those who actually helped me.



I'm with you. Twenty years into fixed income retirement and well into
9th
decade. I have one XP SP3 and one Win 7 going strong. I note that you
said you
were on XP SP2. Is there any reason you can apply the free upgrade to
XP SP3?



I don't know where to get and/or apply SP3.

If I get it from Microsoft, won't they zap my XP so I can't use it ? I
trust Microsoft about as far as I could throw Bill Gates.

Then - even if I could get SP3 - would it make my XP unstable.

Consider that I have a stable system now and if it goes TU, then I am
screwed.  I have the system disks and would have to wipe my Hard Drive
and start COMPLETELY over !

Long story short - Is it safe to apply SP3 ?
From where ?

UPGRADING IS ALWAYS A RISK - So i would not push you to upgrade.
Normally SP3 is installed by the windows-update mechanism.
It you have disabled it, it's normal that the SP3 is not installed on
your pc.
I did not beleive that your problem "call 800" you encounter will be
corrected by applying the SP3 patch.
However if you insist on installing SP3 - go to:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/help/learn-how-to-install-windows-xp-service-pack-3-sp3

and examine seriously the first steps "Before you begin"


After you apply SP3, you will have a lot of security patches to catch up 
on.  When I wanted to do that, I installed Belarc Advisor to get the 
list of patches I needed, and it gave links to each one.


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Re: Startup In Newsgroups

[WaltS48]

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Frank Lee wrote:

Sorry, newbie.
How do I set up Seamonkey to start up immediately in newsgroups?


seamonkey -news



Opened the Mail window with my default email accounts Inbox selected.

How does the user make it like Thunderbird, and have it open at the last 
used folder?

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Re: Startup In Newsgroups

[Jonathan N. Little]

Frank Lee wrote:

Sorry, newbie.
How do I set up Seamonkey to start up immediately in newsgroups?


seamonkey -news

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Passwords do not transfer when updating

[Norman Fuchs]

I have been running SM 2.26.1 for some time, and I thought it would be a 
good thing to update to a recent version.  However, when I do so, I lose 
all my passwords.  Well, not really lose -- if I revert to 2.26.1, they 
are all there.  They just don't show up after I update.  That's true no 
matter if I update to 2.35, 2.38 or 2.39.  I've tried to use Mozbackup, 
but the same thing happens there.  I've also used Password Exporter, but 
with the same result, even though it reports that all passwords were 
imported into the new version.


Would anyone please help me?

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Startup In Newsgroups

[Frank]

Sorry, newbie.
How do I set up Seamonkey to start up immediately in newsgroups?
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Enough is enough (was: Re: Warning of Registry Error - Call 800 - Blah Blah Blah !)

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Can we put this to rest, folks?
Thirty-five off-topic messages about MS products?

I admit I'm guilty of one, but enough is enough.
Let's get back to SeaMonkey.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

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Re: Warning of Registry Error - Call 800 - Blah Blah Blah !

[Arnie Goetchius]

DoctorBill wrote:
> Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>> DoctorBill wrote:
>>> DoctorBill wrote:
 Every once in a while I get stuck in a
 "Warningregistry virus error..."

 It stops everything on SM.
 SM does not respond.   Can't get out.

 Says I have to call some 800 number to get my
 computer back - big long worded thing that repeats
 itself.

 I have been able to get out only by repeated
 ALT-F4 and restarting Windows (XP) and then after
 a while of that, by clicking on the icon below and
 clicking "Close".  I can't remember exactly what I
 do, but eventually it goes away.

 Is this the "Extortion Virus" thing out of Russia
 I have heard about ?

 What is the best way to get out of it ?
 BTW - I can't find any FREE virus checkers that
 work in XP.  My computer is too old to run the new
 Windows.

 DoctorBill
>>>
>>> As a reply to EVERYONE who has "suggested" solutions comprised of BUYING a 
>>> new
>>> computer and employing Windows 10 - Most of you seem to think that money 
>>> just
>>> grows in my garden like weeds.
>>>
>>> An older retired person on a fixed income cannot just go out and buy a 
>>> compuker
>>> that has Windows 10 on it !
>>>
>>> Life is not always so simpleI figured this thing out myself, as per 
>>> usual,
>>> and just press Alt-F4 rapidly and often and THAT works to bug out of 
>>> whatever
>>> this problem is.
>>>
>>> One of you gave me a link to a MalewareBytes that DOES work in Windows XP.
>>> Thanks to that individual.  It IS working now.
>>>
>>> I have inquired about BUYING Windows 10 for my system which has a Celeron D 
>>> 3.33
>>> GHz CPU with 2 GB of Memory and 2 TB of HD.  I am told - DON'T DO IT !  May 
>>> run
>>> but would have problems with 'Drivers'.
>>> I don't know enough to spend $$ to try it and don't trust Salespeople to not
>>> screw me into the ground.
>>>
>>> Thanks to those who actually helped me.
>>>
>>>
>> I'm with you. Twenty years into fixed income retirement and well into 9th
>> decade. I have one XP SP3 and one Win 7 going strong. I note that you said 
>> you
>> were on XP SP2. Is there any reason you can apply the free upgrade to XP SP3?
>>
> 
> I don't know where to get and/or apply SP3.
> 
> If I get it from Microsoft, won't they zap my XP so I can't use it ?  I trust
> Microsoft about as far as I could throw Bill Gates.
> 
> Then - even if I could get SP3 - would it make my XP unstable.
> 
> Consider that I have a stable system now and if it goes TU, then I am 
> screwed. 
> I have the system disks and would have to wipe my Hard Drive and start
> COMPLETELY over !
> 
> Long story short - Is it safe to apply SP3 ?
> From where ?

I don't see any problem with applying SP3 but you need to do a system backup
first in case of a screwup.

Backup and Restore Video here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZrX4Vb4ui4

Install XP SP3 Video here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYd-oZxPdX0


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Re: Warning of Registry Error - Call 800 - Blah Blah Blah !

[Ray_Net]

DoctorBill wrote on 22/11/2015 16:37:

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Every once in a while I get stuck in a
"Warningregistry virus error..."

It stops everything on SM.
SM does not respond.   Can't get out.

Says I have to call some 800 number to get my
computer back - big long worded thing that repeats
itself.

I have been able to get out only by repeated
ALT-F4 and restarting Windows (XP) and then after
a while of that, by clicking on the icon below and
clicking "Close".  I can't remember exactly what I
do, but eventually it goes away.

Is this the "Extortion Virus" thing out of Russia
I have heard about ?

What is the best way to get out of it ?
BTW - I can't find any FREE virus checkers that
work in XP.  My computer is too old to run the new
Windows.

DoctorBill


As a reply to EVERYONE who has "suggested" solutions comprised of 
BUYING a new
computer and employing Windows 10 - Most of you seem to think that 
money just

grows in my garden like weeds.

An older retired person on a fixed income cannot just go out and buy 
a compuker

that has Windows 10 on it !

Life is not always so simpleI figured this thing out myself, as 
per usual,
and just press Alt-F4 rapidly and often and THAT works to bug out of 
whatever

this problem is.

One of you gave me a link to a MalewareBytes that DOES work in 
Windows XP.

Thanks to that individual.  It IS working now.

I have inquired about BUYING Windows 10 for my system which has a 
Celeron D 3.33
GHz CPU with 2 GB of Memory and 2 TB of HD.  I am told - DON'T DO IT 
!  May run

but would have problems with 'Drivers'.
I don't know enough to spend $$ to try it and don't trust 
Salespeople to not

screw me into the ground.

Thanks to those who actually helped me.


I'm with you. Twenty years into fixed income retirement and well into 
9th
decade. I have one XP SP3 and one Win 7 going strong. I note that you 
said you
were on XP SP2. Is there any reason you can apply the free upgrade to 
XP SP3?




I don't know where to get and/or apply SP3.

If I get it from Microsoft, won't they zap my XP so I can't use it ?  
I trust Microsoft about as far as I could throw Bill Gates.


Then - even if I could get SP3 - would it make my XP unstable.

Consider that I have a stable system now and if it goes TU, then I am 
screwed.  I have the system disks and would have to wipe my Hard Drive 
and start COMPLETELY over !


Long story short - Is it safe to apply SP3 ?
From where ?

UPGRADING IS ALWAYS A RISK - So i would not push you to upgrade.
Normally SP3 is installed by the windows-update mechanism.
It you have disabled it, it's normal that the SP3 is not installed on 
your pc.
I did not beleive that your problem "call 800" you encounter will be 
corrected by applying the SP3 patch.
However if you insist on installing SP3 - go to: 
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/help/learn-how-to-install-windows-xp-service-pack-3-sp3

and examine seriously the first steps "Before you begin"
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Re: Warning of Registry Error - Call 800 - Blah Blah Blah !

[DoctorBill]

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Every once in a while I get stuck in a
"Warningregistry virus error..."

It stops everything on SM.
SM does not respond.   Can't get out.

Says I have to call some 800 number to get my
computer back - big long worded thing that repeats
itself.

I have been able to get out only by repeated
ALT-F4 and restarting Windows (XP) and then after
a while of that, by clicking on the icon below and
clicking "Close".  I can't remember exactly what I
do, but eventually it goes away.

Is this the "Extortion Virus" thing out of Russia
I have heard about ?

What is the best way to get out of it ?
BTW - I can't find any FREE virus checkers that
work in XP.  My computer is too old to run the new
Windows.

DoctorBill


As a reply to EVERYONE who has "suggested" solutions comprised of BUYING a new
computer and employing Windows 10 - Most of you seem to think that money just
grows in my garden like weeds.

An older retired person on a fixed income cannot just go out and buy a compuker
that has Windows 10 on it !

Life is not always so simpleI figured this thing out myself, as per usual,
and just press Alt-F4 rapidly and often and THAT works to bug out of whatever
this problem is.

One of you gave me a link to a MalewareBytes that DOES work in Windows XP.
Thanks to that individual.  It IS working now.

I have inquired about BUYING Windows 10 for my system which has a Celeron D 3.33
GHz CPU with 2 GB of Memory and 2 TB of HD.  I am told - DON'T DO IT !  May run
but would have problems with 'Drivers'.
I don't know enough to spend $$ to try it and don't trust Salespeople to not
screw me into the ground.

Thanks to those who actually helped me.



I'm with you. Twenty years into fixed income retirement and well into 9th
decade. I have one XP SP3 and one Win 7 going strong. I note that you said you
were on XP SP2. Is there any reason you can apply the free upgrade to XP SP3?



I don't know where to get and/or apply SP3.

If I get it from Microsoft, won't they zap my XP 
so I can't use it ?  I trust Microsoft about as 
far as I could throw Bill Gates.


Then - even if I could get SP3 - would it make my 
XP unstable.


Consider that I have a stable system now and if it 
goes TU, then I am screwed.  I have the system 
disks and would have to wipe my Hard Drive and 
start COMPLETELY over !


Long story short - Is it safe to apply SP3 ?
From where ?
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Re: A weather gadget is not shown with SeaMonkey

[Ray_Net]

Ray_Net wrote on 22/11/2015 15:39:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 22/11/2015 15:17:

Ray_Net wrote:


On that page : http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/TEST-METEO.HTM

The first test labelled "Météo dujour TEST 1" works good.
The second test labelled "Météo 4 JOURS TEST 2" did not work - nothing
is shown.


Same result here with 2.39.

Strange given that the source page 
 
for your second iframe works fine on its own. I tried increasing the 
frame size to 1000x900 and that didn't help.


Hello ! I just found the culprit  but why ...is AdBlock-Plus 
responsible 

If i disable on home.scarlet.be all goes well ...
Why AdBlock-Plus kill the second and not the first ?
Why AdBlock-Plus did not kill when typing the address in the url ?

I FIND THE RESPONSIBLE !!!
I just disabled the filter:

/300x250/*

in the EasyList

But I did not explain why it works when the url is accessible directly.
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Re: Warning of Registry Error - Call 800 - Blah Blah Blah !

[Arnie Goetchius]

DoctorBill wrote:
> DoctorBill wrote:
>> Every once in a while I get stuck in a
>> "Warningregistry virus error..."
>>
>> It stops everything on SM.
>> SM does not respond.   Can't get out.
>>
>> Says I have to call some 800 number to get my
>> computer back - big long worded thing that repeats
>> itself.
>>
>> I have been able to get out only by repeated
>> ALT-F4 and restarting Windows (XP) and then after
>> a while of that, by clicking on the icon below and
>> clicking "Close".  I can't remember exactly what I
>> do, but eventually it goes away.
>>
>> Is this the "Extortion Virus" thing out of Russia
>> I have heard about ?
>>
>> What is the best way to get out of it ?
>> BTW - I can't find any FREE virus checkers that
>> work in XP.  My computer is too old to run the new
>> Windows.
>>
>> DoctorBill
> 
> As a reply to EVERYONE who has "suggested" solutions comprised of BUYING a new
> computer and employing Windows 10 - Most of you seem to think that money just
> grows in my garden like weeds.
> 
> An older retired person on a fixed income cannot just go out and buy a 
> compuker
> that has Windows 10 on it !
> 
> Life is not always so simpleI figured this thing out myself, as per usual,
> and just press Alt-F4 rapidly and often and THAT works to bug out of whatever
> this problem is.
> 
> One of you gave me a link to a MalewareBytes that DOES work in Windows XP. 
> Thanks to that individual.  It IS working now.
> 
> I have inquired about BUYING Windows 10 for my system which has a Celeron D 
> 3.33
> GHz CPU with 2 GB of Memory and 2 TB of HD.  I am told - DON'T DO IT !  May 
> run
> but would have problems with 'Drivers'.
> I don't know enough to spend $$ to try it and don't trust Salespeople to not
> screw me into the ground.
> 
> Thanks to those who actually helped me.
> 
> 
I'm with you. Twenty years into fixed income retirement and well into 9th
decade. I have one XP SP3 and one Win 7 going strong. I note that you said you
were on XP SP2. Is there any reason you can apply the free upgrade to XP SP3?
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Re: A weather gadget is not shown with SeaMonkey

[Ray_Net]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 22/11/2015 15:17:

Ray_Net wrote:


On that page : http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/TEST-METEO.HTM

The first test labelled "Météo dujour TEST 1" works good.
The second test labelled "Météo 4 JOURS TEST 2" did not work - nothing
is shown.


Same result here with 2.39.

Strange given that the source page 
 
for your second iframe works fine on its own. I tried increasing the 
frame size to 1000x900 and that didn't help.


Hello ! I just found the culprit  but why ...is AdBlock-Plus 
responsible 

If i disable on home.scarlet.be all goes well ...
Why AdBlock-Plus kill the second and not the first ?
Why AdBlock-Plus did not kill when typing the address in the url ?
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Re: A weather gadget is not shown with SeaMonkey

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ray_Net wrote:


On that page : http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/TEST-METEO.HTM

The first test labelled "Météo dujour TEST 1" works good.
The second test labelled "Météo 4 JOURS TEST 2" did not work - nothing
is shown.


Same result here with 2.39.

Strange given that the source page 
 
for your second iframe works fine on its own. I tried increasing the 
frame size to 1000x900 and that didn't help.


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Re: A weather gadget is not shown with SeaMoneky

[Daniel]

On 22/11/2015 6:31 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

On that page : http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/TEST-METEO.HTM

The first test labelled "Météo dujour TEST 1" works good.
The second test labelled "Météo 4 JOURS TEST 2" did not work - nothing
is shown.

This happens only with SeaMonkey.
Internet Explorer works good.
FireFox works good.

IE-11 - Version: 11.0.9600.18097 Update Versions: 11.0.25(KB3100773)
FireFox - Version 41.0
SeaMonkey: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:41.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/41.0 SeaMonkey/2.38


Ray, in the HTML for that page, in one of the iframes you have ...

"service/fr/code3day/index.php?code=1950" and it works, whilst in the 
other you have ...


"service/300x250/index.php?code=1950&type=city&lang=fr" and it doesn't work!

The "&type=city&lang=fr" doesn't seem to make much difference if I cut 
it from one iframe and add it to the other, so, not that I know a heck 
of a lot about HTML, but I'd be looking at the "fr/code3day" of the 
first iframe verses "300x250" of the second iframe.


Or, maybe, in the following "allowtransparency" lines, the 'width="225" 
height="150"' verses 'width="300" height="250"'. Nope! Cutting and 
Pasting from 1 to 2 didn't help.


Sorry.

Hmm!! I note Ralph says it works for him on his WOW64 SM 2.38. I'm on 
the same set-up and mine doesn't work!!


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.39 Build identifier: 20151028234211

or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501

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Re: A weather gadget is not shown with SeaMoneky

[Ralph Fox]

On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 08:31:47 +0100, Ray_Net wrote:

> On that page : http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/TEST-METEO.HTM
>
> The first test labelled "Météo dujour TEST 1" works good.
> The second test labelled "Météo 4 JOURS TEST 2" did not work - nothing
> is shown.
>
> This happens only with SeaMonkey.
> Internet Explorer works good.
> FireFox works good.
>
> IE-11 - Version: 11.0.9600.18097 Update Versions: 11.0.25(KB3100773)
> FireFox - Version 41.0
> SeaMonkey: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:41.0)
> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/41.0 SeaMonkey/2.38


SeaMonkey 2.38 works good here.

SeaMonkey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:41.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/41.0 SeaMonkey/2.38

I'll install 2.39 in a day or two and try it.

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