Re: SM 2.46 and PDF file (Linux x86-64)

[pconde]

Steve Wendt a écrit :

On 12/27/2016 11:47 AM, Steve Wendt wrote:


I tried PDF viewer, found it fine and straightforward, but I was
disappointed to see I cannot open an email attachment with it ?


If you find/file a bug for it in Bugzilla, please post a link back here;
it annoys me too.  :-/


Found it:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=977822

Based on the comments in linked bug 810815, it sounds like it needs some
hacks to pass it to pdf.js, or pdf.js needs to handle additional
protocols (primarily imap).

I can confirm that the same problem exists with a pop email. Error 
console gives this error


Erreur : NS_NOINTERFACE: Component returned failure code: 0x80004002 
(NS_NOINTERFACE) [nsISupports.QueryInterface]
Fichier source : 
jar:file:///home/philippe/.mozilla/seamonkey/aoteci7i.philippe/extensions/vie...@pdf.js.xpi!/content/PdfStreamConverter.jsm

Ligne : 951

No other error or warning
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Re: Resurrecting an old theme

[Roger Fink]

 Original Message 

Le 22 décembre 2016, Roger Fink a écrit :


In case anybody else has saved a copy, the Mostly Crystal theme works
perfectly on this upgrade to 2.46, even after many years of lying dormant.

Nice to hear that.
I even saved her extensive list of user customizations, not that there was much 
that needed customizing. Anyway, userChrome.js has been de-emphasized by 
Mozilla which is understandable (you have to create it yourself now).


I only had to update install.rdf.

I think I set max version once and for good, to 2.99.* or so. :-)
That was a smart move. Now you've got 53 more upgrades plus several hundred 
betas before you have anything to worry about. Why didn't I think of that.

JMO of course, but I've always considered Mostly Crystal to be THE best of
the "traditional GUI" themes for SeaMonkey,

+1!

Sorry, I don't do coding.

The woman who created it, whose screen name I've forgotten but who used
to post on this board, got a little frustrated with Mozilla and closed
it down. It would be great if someone devised a way, with her assent, to
keep it current and make it an ongoing offering (or the default theme)
for this browser

"CatThief" according to the addon manager. Alas the site (tom-cat.com) has
been discontinued. The last time I visited it (a few years ago) it said
the theme was *not* publicly licensed. I guess we're not even entitled to
edit install.rdf in theory...


Yes, CatThief. I knew it wasn't CatWoman, she has a different gig.

Also not Cat Mother of Cat Mother and the All-night News Boys, a late 
sixties NYC phenomenon on WBAI, still hanging on by their claws on YouTube.


Complete themes are hard to come by in SeaMonkey - there is a lot of 
time-consuming work involved, and in a situation where it's all done by 
volunteers, robust options for the GUI are always going to be a problem. 
Having access to work at this level, if indeed that is the case, would 
be a gift.


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Re: SM 2.46 and PDF file (Linux x86-64)

[Steve Wendt]

On 12/27/2016 11:47 AM, Steve Wendt wrote:


I tried PDF viewer, found it fine and straightforward, but I was
disappointed to see I cannot open an email attachment with it ?


If you find/file a bug for it in Bugzilla, please post a link back here;
it annoys me too.  :-/


Found it:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=977822

Based on the comments in linked bug 810815, it sounds like it needs some 
hacks to pass it to pdf.js, or pdf.js needs to handle additional 
protocols (primarily imap).


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Re: 2.46 update not working

[Richard Alan]

Edmund Wong wrote:

> Ken Rudolph wrote:
>> 1)  POP e-mail not updating 2)  password manager crashes program
>> 
>> I need to go back to 2.40 and have downloaded it.  How can I make sure
>> that it will use my profile, and how can I stop it from updating to
>> 2.46 automatically.  Help!
> 
> Can you clarify what operating system you're running 2.40 on?

His user agent string says Windows 7.

Yours says Windows 8.1.
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Re: 2.46 update not working

[Edmund Wong]

Ken Rudolph wrote:
> 1)  POP e-mail not updating
> 2)  password manager crashes program
> 
> I need to go back to 2.40 and have downloaded it.  How can I make sure
> that it will use my profile, and how can I stop it from updating to 2.46
> automatically.  Help!
> 
Hi Ken,

Can you clarify what operating system you're running 2.40 on?

Edmund
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Re: V2.46's quoting issues with wordwrapping in plain text format?

[Jonathan N. Little]

Ant wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> Is it me or is SM v2.46 having problems wordwrapping issues when 
> replying with quotes and plaintext format? They don't seem to
> wordwrap correctly like in v2.40 and earlier.
> https://i.imgbox.com/V8mQVnH2.gif for a screen shot/capture when I
> was replying to "2.46 data manager not working" newsgroup thread. It
> also happens with e-mails. HTML formats seem OK though. :(
> 
> Thank you in advance. :)


I've noticed it as well. Seems every reply requires CTRL+R rewrap now...


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Re: 2.46 update not working

[David E. Ross]

On 12/27/2016 8:48 AM, Ken Rudolph wrote:
> 1)  POP e-mail not updating
> 2)  password manager crashes program
> 
> I need to go back to 2.40 and have downloaded it.  How can I make sure 
> that it will use my profile, and how can I stop it from updating to 2.46 
> automatically.  Help!
> 

Profile:  Once you try using 2.46, you might not be able to use your
profile when you revert to 2.40.  Restore your profile from the last
backup prior to installing 2.46.  You do have a backup, do you not?

Block automatic updates:

1.  On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit > Preferences].

2.  On the left side of the Preferences window (under Category), select
[Advanced > Software Installation].

3.  On the Software Inatallation pane under SeaMonkey, select or clear
the checkboxes as you wish.

4.  Select the OK button.

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Re: V2.46's quoting issues with wordwrapping in plain text format?

[Ant]

On 12/27/2016 4:11 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/27/2016 9:37 AM, Ant wrote:

Hello.

Is it me or is SM v2.46 having problems wordwrapping issues when
replying with quotes and plaintext format? They don't seem to wordwrap
correctly like in v2.40 and earlier. https://i.imgbox.com/V8mQVnH2.gif
for a screen shot/capture when I was replying to "2.46 data manager not
working" newsgroup thread. It also happens with e-mails. HTML formats
seem OK though. :(

Thank you in advance. :)



I have seen this problem for many years, in both Netscape Communicator
and Thunderbird (including the latest TBird version 45.5.1).

The problem is with the E-mail application that sent the message to you.
 It sent wrapped lines that are too long.  The lines often become too
long when a quoted message with only > is again quoted in a reply with

and then quoted again with >>>.


E-mail? It's not just e-mail. Also, newsgroups. It's really bad in v2.46 
compared to earlier versions. Look at this post! :(

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Re: V2.46's quoting issues with wordwrapping in plain text format?

[David E. Ross]

On 12/27/2016 9:37 AM, Ant wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> Is it me or is SM v2.46 having problems wordwrapping issues when 
> replying with quotes and plaintext format? They don't seem to wordwrap 
> correctly like in v2.40 and earlier. https://i.imgbox.com/V8mQVnH2.gif 
> for a screen shot/capture when I was replying to "2.46 data manager not 
> working" newsgroup thread. It also happens with e-mails. HTML formats 
> seem OK though. :(
> 
> Thank you in advance. :)
> 

I have seen this problem for many years, in both Netscape Communicator
and Thunderbird (including the latest TBird version 45.5.1).

The problem is with the E-mail application that sent the message to you.
 It sent wrapped lines that are too long.  The lines often become too
long when a quoted message with only > is again quoted in a reply with
>> and then quoted again with >>>.

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Re: 2.46 data manager not working

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

The previous script swallowed entries or just ended the search with an 
exception. There were also some errors in the script which just resulted in 
nothing displayed in e.g. under storage. It now tries to map them to the 
correct domain and when it fails displays them under the global * domain. It 
doesn't help that some databases use principals some contain hosts and some 
just string which you know what.  This likely takes more time and might need 
some further optimizations for profiles with many items.


But I would still check the data. I bet there is so much junk in it. I just 
looked at mine which weren't so old (2.26 or so) and just started over.


I used SQLiteStudio when fixing up the Data Manager: http://sqlitestudio.pl/

Nice tool.

FRG

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:


When if first stalls clicking debug script stops on line 807 of dataman.js

domain_search dataman.js:807

 this.sort();
 gDataman.restoreSelectionFromIDs(this.tree, this._getObjID,
selectionCache);
 this.tree.treeBoxObject.endUpdateBatch();
 this.ignoreSelect = false;
 // Make sure we clear the data pane when selection has been removed.
 if (!this.tree.view.selection.count && selectionCache.length)
   this.select();
   },




Refreshing it to see if the script stalls elsewhere it repeatedly stalls
on line 779 of dataman.js

 this.displayedDomains.sort(compfunc);




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Re: 2.46 data manager not working

[Jonathan N. Little]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

[fixed top-posting]

> Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>> Also not that this was not a problem at all just a few days ago
>> with 2.40 with same data. It just manifested as a problem with
>> 2.46. There is something significantly different with the upgrade.
>
> Yes because it probably was broken before or just swallowed some 
> entries.

The data manager script or the database? "swallowed" entries? Not sure
what you mean there.


> It now should display and process all of them which might
> mean it might need some performance tuning in the source code.

Data manager showed all my entries before update from 2.40. Database
always has had a lot of entries, my profile is from the 90's originally
from Netscape Communicator to Mozilla to SeaMonkey.

> 
> You can set data_manager.debug to true in about:config and check what
> it is doing in the console.
> 

When if first stalls clicking debug script stops on line 807 of dataman.js

domain_search dataman.js:807

this.sort();
gDataman.restoreSelectionFromIDs(this.tree, this._getObjID,
selectionCache);
this.tree.treeBoxObject.endUpdateBatch();
this.ignoreSelect = false;
// Make sure we clear the data pane when selection has been removed.
if (!this.tree.view.selection.count && selectionCache.length)
  this.select();
  },


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Re: SM 2.46 and PDF file (Linux x86-64)

[Steve Wendt]

On 12/26/2016 9:29 AM, cyberzen wrote:


I tried PDF viewer, found it fine and straightforward, but I was
disappointed to see I cannot open an email attachment with it ?


If you find/file a bug for it in Bugzilla, please post a link back here; 
it annoys me too.  :-/


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Re: 2.46 data manager not working

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Yes because it probably was broken before or just swallowed some entries. It 
now should display and process all of them which might mean it might need some 
performance tuning in the source code.


You can set data_manager.debug to true in about:config and check what it is 
doing in the console.


Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Also not that this was not a problem at all just a few days ago with
2.40 with same data. It just manifested as a problem with 2.46. There is
something significantly different with the upgrade.


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Re: 2.46 update not working

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

How about filing a bug for the two issues. #2 is likely profile related and #1 
might be also. If yes this won't go away.


Ken Rudolph wrote:

This really scares me, since I don't know what I'd do


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

[Gabriel]

PhillipJones wrote on 22/12/16 20:45:



Just went to help menu check for updates 2.46 come right up. Installed and
currently using (mac version)  I am using MacOS 12.2.2 the way the security is
in Sierra if its defective it won't install.




My SM 2.40 Mac version says there's no update available (the current ID is 
20160120191716)!

So I had to download v. 2.46 manually.
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Re: 2.46 update not working

[Hawker]

On 12/27/2016 1:17 PM, Adrian Kalla wrote:

W dniu 12/27/2016 o 07:10 PM, Ken Rudolph pisze:

Thank you.  I'll be honest, this is the first time since Netscape 1.0
that an update has failed so disastrously.  This really scares me, since
I don't know what I'd do without SeaMonkey.



To be honest: as no one reported similar problems, it is very likely
that you either have incompatible addons installed (tried safe mode with
all addons disabled?) or something in your profile is broken (tried
temporarily a new profile?).



Actually that's not true. Read above - those issues are known.
Regarding the data manager is that seems to be an issue for large old 
profiles and it just temporarily locks up then is fine.
I fixed mine by going though and getting rid of a ton of old legacy 
entries going back to Netscape 3.x that I didn't need. Now it works fine.


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Re: 2.46 data manager not working

[Jonathan N. Little]

Hawker wrote:
> On 12/27/2016 10:46 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>> The source might need some fine tuning. Maybe someone can check the
>> row counts in the content-prefs and permissions DB when it does
>> this.
>> 
>> Data Manager does read all of them during start. In at least the
>> 2.39 and 2.40 versions it might have crapped out because of errors
>> early.

> 
> If you tell me how I would be happy to. I suspect however you are
> correct and it is simply a matter of how huge some of our data bases
> are making it take a long time to do its thing. I just cleaned out
> most, but not all of the cookies and it has gotten significantly
> faster recovery time.
> 
> I wish there was a way to group select and mass delete items. Would
> love to clean out the permissions tabs and other tabs faster but I
> just have too much data there to do it the way it works now.  The
> "other/older" cookie editor was much faster but only works for
> cookies.

You can also use the old password UI



to removed old saved passwords, but it would be nice to be able to sort
and mass select site permissions, preferences, and storage for some
efficient pruning. Don't want to wipe it all I have some sites that I
need to save configurations...

Also not that this was not a problem at all just a few days ago with
2.40 with same data. It just manifested as a problem with 2.46. There is
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Re: 2.46 update not working

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 12/27/2016 o 07:10 PM, Ken Rudolph pisze:
> Thank you.  I'll be honest, this is the first time since Netscape 1.0
> that an update has failed so disastrously.  This really scares me, since
> I don't know what I'd do without SeaMonkey.


To be honest: as no one reported similar problems, it is very likely
that you either have incompatible addons installed (tried safe mode with
all addons disabled?) or something in your profile is broken (tried
temporarily a new profile?).
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Re: 2.46 update not working

[Ken Rudolph]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Ken Rudolph wrote:

Ken Rudolph wrote:

1)  POP e-mail not updating
2)  password manager crashes program

I need to go back to 2.40 and have downloaded it.  How can I make sure
that it will use my profile, and how can I stop it from updating to 2.46
automatically.  Help!


The reload and re-install of 2.40 worked, and everything is working OK
again. I still don't know how to stop the automatic updating to 2.46
which I don't want to do until I know it works (maybe the next update?)


Edit->Preferences->Advanced->Software Installation.

Uncheck 'Automatically Check for Updates.'


Thank you.  I'll be honest, this is the first time since Netscape 1.0 
that an update has failed so disastrously.  This really scares me, since 
I don't know what I'd do without SeaMonkey.


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Re: 2.46 update not working

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Ken Rudolph wrote:

Ken Rudolph wrote:

1)  POP e-mail not updating
2)  password manager crashes program

I need to go back to 2.40 and have downloaded it.  How can I make sure
that it will use my profile, and how can I stop it from updating to 2.46
automatically.  Help!

The reload and re-install of 2.40 worked, and everything is working OK again.  
I still don't know how to stop the automatic updating to 2.46 which I don't 
want to do until I know it works (maybe the next update?)



Edit->Preferences->Advanced->Software Installation.

Uncheck 'Automatically Check for Updates.'

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Re: 2.46 update not working

[Ken Rudolph]

Ken Rudolph wrote:

1)  POP e-mail not updating
2)  password manager crashes program

I need to go back to 2.40 and have downloaded it.  How can I make sure
that it will use my profile, and how can I stop it from updating to 2.46
automatically.  Help!

The reload and re-install of 2.40 worked, and everything is working OK 
again.  I still don't know how to stop the automatic updating to 2.46 
which I don't want to do until I know it works (maybe the next update?)


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Re: Change User Agent in 2.46?

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On 12/27/2016 7:52 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 12/27/2016 at 8:23 AM, Tom Pamin's prodigious digits fired off:

I need to change the user agent to get a program to work with SM. I was
told to set "general.useragent.override" in "about:config" to the value
"Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:46.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/46.0". I don't have the line general.useragent.override in my
about:config. Do I need to add this as a new line?


You could install User Agent Switcher to make it more handy.




Or use PrefBar: http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/ :)
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2.46 update not working

[Ken Rudolph]

1)  POP e-mail not updating
2)  password manager crashes program

I need to go back to 2.40 and have downloaded it.  How can I make sure 
that it will use my profile, and how can I stop it from updating to 2.46 
automatically.  Help!


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Re: 2.46 data manager not working

[Hawker]

On 12/27/2016 10:46 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

The source might need some fine tuning. Maybe someone can check the row
counts in the content-prefs and permissions DB when it does this.

Data Manager does read all of them during start. In at least the 2.39
and 2.40 versions it might have crapped out because of errors early.

FRG

Hawker wrote:

On 12/25/2016 9:08 PM, bern...@nospam.com wrote:

Having a problem with data manager in 2.46  I tried to get into my
password list and the window comes up and locks up. Went back to 2.40
works perfect. Any ideas?


Same issue here.
It locks up for a bit with a "not responding", but eventually recovers
and then works fine.




If you tell me how I would be happy to.
I suspect however you are correct and it is simply a matter of how huge 
some of our data bases are making it take a long time to do its thing. I 
just cleaned out most, but not all of the cookies and it has gotten 
significantly faster recovery time.


I wish there was a way to group select and mass delete items. Would love 
to clean out the permissions tabs and other tabs faster but I just have 
too much data there to do it the way it works now.  The "other/older" 
cookie editor was much faster but only works for cookies.

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Re: Change User Agent in 2.46?

[Ed Mullen]

On 12/27/2016 at 8:23 AM, Tom Pamin's prodigious digits fired off:

I need to change the user agent to get a program to work with SM. I was
told to set "general.useragent.override" in "about:config" to the value
"Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:46.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/46.0". I don't have the line general.useragent.override in my
about:config. Do I need to add this as a new line?


You could install User Agent Switcher to make it more handy.



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Re: 2.46 data manager not working

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

The source might need some fine tuning. Maybe someone can check the row counts 
in the content-prefs and permissions DB when it does this.


Data Manager does read all of them during start. In at least the 2.39 and 2.40 
versions it might have crapped out because of errors early.


FRG

Hawker wrote:

On 12/25/2016 9:08 PM, bern...@nospam.com wrote:

Having a problem with data manager in 2.46  I tried to get into my
password list and the window comes up and locks up. Went back to 2.40
works perfect. Any ideas?


Same issue here.
It locks up for a bit with a "not responding", but eventually recovers and 
then works fine.


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Re: 2.46 data manager not working

[Hawker]

On 12/25/2016 9:08 PM, bern...@nospam.com wrote:

Having a problem with data manager in 2.46  I tried to get into my
password list and the window comes up and locks up. Went back to 2.40
works perfect. Any ideas?


Same issue here.
It locks up for a bit with a "not responding", but eventually recovers 
and then works fine.

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Re: Resurrecting an old theme "Mostly Crystal - Firefox Theme"

[Rainer Bielefeld]

On 27.12.2016 13:41, Lucas Levrel wrote:
> "CatThief" according to the addon manager. Alas the site (tom-cat.com)
> has been discontinued. The last time I visited it (a few years ago) it
> said the theme was *not* publicly licensed. I guess we're not even
> entitled to edit install.rdf in theory...
> 

Hello

I downloaded ""Mostly Crystal - Firefox Theme" from , and
"license.txt" tells:

theme name:  Mostly Crystal
developer:  CatThief  - tom-cat.com/mozilla
contributor:  Everaldo - everaldo.com (Crystal SVG icons)

Mostly Crystal is a theme for Mozilla Firefox "mostly" from the Crystal
SVG (for Linux) icon set designed by Everaldo and includes images
reproduced in their original form plus  customized composites of the
originals.

This theme is for Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X systems only.

Permission was granted by Everaldo to use these icons in their original
form, and every effort was made during the creation of customized
composites of the original images to keep this theme true to "Linux KDE
Crystal" appearance.

The theme's code base is open source (licensing information is contained
in the boilerplate text at the head of each file) and there is nothing
to prevent anyone from using it as a model for their own theme; however,
this theme may not be modified and/or re-released at any time as long as
it remains active by its developer.  If the developer ceases active
involvement with this theme (no longer available at CatThief's web site
and it ceases to work with current Final Release versions of Firefox for
a period of at least 6 months), the project may be resumed by another
individual as long as proper attribution to the theme's original
developer, "CatThief", the theme's original title, "Mostly Crystal", as
well as all contributors is included.

Details on MPL/LPGL/GPL licensing can be found at:
http://www.mozilla.org/MPL

Mostly Crystal was developed for Firefox 2.0 Final Release including all
sub versions (2.0.x) and is not compatible with versions prior to 2.0.

If this theme breaks on a nightly build, support will not be provided
for problems.

By using this theme you assume full responsibility for any damage to
your computer or your installation of any Firefox program file(s) or
component(s).


CU

Rainer Bielefeld
(SeaMonky QA Volunteer)
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Re: Change User Agent in 2.46?

[Danny Kile]

Tom Pamin wrote:

I need to change the user agent to get a program to work with SM. I was
told to set "general.useragent.override" in "about:config" to the value
"Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:46.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/46.0". I don't have the line general.useragent.override in my
about:config. Do I need to add this as a new line?


Yes you have to add a new entry, this link may get you started.
http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config

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Change User Agent in 2.46?

[Tom Pamin]

I need to change the user agent to get a program to work with SM. I was 
told to set "general.useragent.override" in "about:config" to the value 
"Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:46.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/46.0". I don't have the line general.useragent.override in my 
about:config. Do I need to add this as a new line?

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Re: Resurrecting an old theme

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 22 décembre 2016, Roger Fink a écrit :

In case anybody else has saved a copy, the Mostly Crystal theme works 
perfectly on this upgrade to 2.46, even after many years of lying dormant.


Nice to hear that.


I only had to update install.rdf.


I think I set max version once and for good, to 2.99.* or so. :-)

JMO of course, but I've always considered Mostly Crystal to be THE best of 
the "traditional GUI" themes for SeaMonkey,


+1!

The woman who created it, whose screen name I've forgotten but who used 
to post on this board, got a little frustrated with Mozilla and closed 
it down. It would be great if someone devised a way, with her assent, to 
keep it current and make it an ongoing offering (or the default theme) 
for this browser


"CatThief" according to the addon manager. Alas the site (tom-cat.com) has 
been discontinued. The last time I visited it (a few years ago) it said 
the theme was *not* publicly licensed. I guess we're not even entitled to 
edit install.rdf in theory...


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Re: SM 2.46 and PDF file (Linux x86-64)

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

WaltS48 wrote:
So, your company's payroll site is safe until 2018, as long as the SeaMonkey 
developers decide to base the March 2017 release on the Firefox ESR version.


That has not been decided but is likely. Nevertheless keeping Flash and 
ditching Java is ...


FRG
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