Archived Email Messages Faded Out in SM v2.4 and v2.46

[JMK]

  
  
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Archived Email Messages Faded Out in SM v2.40 and v2.46
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  I have noticed this issue happening with messages that have a
  signature attachment added from a (.html) file.  The messages in
  question have a "washed out" look, as if they are being viewed
  thru an opaque filter.
  
  Did not have this problem in prior versions of SM.
  
  Has anyone reported this issue?  
  
  Is there a fix?
  
  
  Regards,
  
  j...@restoreamericanliberty.com
  www.RestoreAmericanLiberty.com
  Liberty Depends Upon Virtue

  

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Re: Stealth Ad Blocker

[Ray_Net]

David E. Ross wrote on 21-01-17 20:59:

On 1/21/2017 11:31 AM, EE wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

I'm getting tired of all of these sites that refuse to display their
contents until I disable my Ad Blocker(s).  Does anyone know of a
"Stealth" Ad Blocker that blocks ads, but can't be detected by the
websites?  Something that signals to the server that the ad was
displayed but in reality was thrown into a bit bucket?  Surely SOMEONE
has come up with something like that by now?


You can get subscriptions with adblockers to block anti-adblock sites.
I have a subscription with Adblock Plus to Adblock Warning Removal List
in SeaMonkey.  I also have a subscription in Safari for uBlock to
Anti-Adblock Killer at raw.githubusercontent.com.  You can find them
with a search engine.


I do not think Cruz wants to block the Web sites that block AdBlock
Plus.  He appears to want to see those Web pages but without the ads.

If Jaime Cruz is still monitoring this thread, I would hope he would
either confirm my conjecture or correct me.

This is exactly what I had understand; He just want to fool the 
adblock-detection.

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Re: Stealth Ad Blocker

[David E. Ross]

On 1/21/2017 7:31 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
> On 1/21/2017 2:04 AM, Ant wrote:
>> On 1/20/2017 10:00 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
>>> On 1/20/2017 7:40 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:
 I'm getting tired of all of these sites that refuse to display their
 contents until I disable my Ad Blocker(s).  Does anyone know of a
 "Stealth" Ad Blocker that blocks ads, but can't be detected by the
 websites?  Something that signals to the server that the ad was
 displayed but in reality was thrown into a bit bucket?  Surely SOMEONE
 has come up with something like that by now?

>>>
>>> I have the PrefBar extension, to which I added a checkbox to the PrefBar
>>> tool bar that enables or disables AdBlock Plus.  When I find a Web page
>>> that will not load with AdBlock Plus enabled, I do the following:
>>>
>>> 1.  Back out of the site.
>>>
>>> 2.  Disable AdBlock Plus.
>>>
>>> 3.  Select the link to the site.
>>>
>>> 4.  Immediately thereafter, re-enable AdBlock Plus.
>>>
>>> The Web server detects that AdBlock Plus is not enabled and thus allows
>>> the Web page to download and display.  The server cannot then detect
>>> that AdBlock Plus is enabled and blocking ads.
>>>
>> In #3, you still get ads in the web page. :(
>>
> 
> No.  Very often, ads depend on scripts in the Web page running, which
> does not happen as quickly as I re-enable AdBlock Plus in step #4.
> 

I know this works with several Web sites that otherwise yield error
pages when AdBlock Plus is enabled.  I merely disable, request, very
quickly enable, and readily view the page I want.

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Re: Stealth Ad Blocker

[David E. Ross]

On 1/21/2017 11:31 AM, EE wrote:
> Cruz, Jaime wrote:
>> I'm getting tired of all of these sites that refuse to display their
>> contents until I disable my Ad Blocker(s).  Does anyone know of a
>> "Stealth" Ad Blocker that blocks ads, but can't be detected by the
>> websites?  Something that signals to the server that the ad was
>> displayed but in reality was thrown into a bit bucket?  Surely SOMEONE
>> has come up with something like that by now?
>>
> You can get subscriptions with adblockers to block anti-adblock sites. 
> I have a subscription with Adblock Plus to Adblock Warning Removal List 
> in SeaMonkey.  I also have a subscription in Safari for uBlock to 
> Anti-Adblock Killer at raw.githubusercontent.com.  You can find them 
> with a search engine.
> 

I do not think Cruz wants to block the Web sites that block AdBlock
Plus.  He appears to want to see those Web pages but without the ads.

If Jaime Cruz is still monitoring this thread, I would hope he would
either confirm my conjecture or correct me.

-- 
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national importance, I want to see his face as he is talking.
At the least, I want to hear his voice.

Donald:  Stop tweeting.  Otherwise, how do we know the message
really comes from you?
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Re: Stealth Ad Blocker

[EE]

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

I'm getting tired of all of these sites that refuse to display their
contents until I disable my Ad Blocker(s).  Does anyone know of a
"Stealth" Ad Blocker that blocks ads, but can't be detected by the
websites?  Something that signals to the server that the ad was
displayed but in reality was thrown into a bit bucket?  Surely SOMEONE
has come up with something like that by now?

You can get subscriptions with adblockers to block anti-adblock sites. 
I have a subscription with Adblock Plus to Adblock Warning Removal List 
in SeaMonkey.  I also have a subscription in Safari for uBlock to 
Anti-Adblock Killer at raw.githubusercontent.com.  You can find them 
with a search engine.


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Re: Stealth Ad Blocker

[Lee]

On 1/21/17, David E. Ross  wrote:
> On 1/21/2017 2:04 AM, Ant wrote:
>> On 1/20/2017 10:00 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
>>> On 1/20/2017 7:40 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:
 I'm getting tired of all of these sites that refuse to display their
 contents until I disable my Ad Blocker(s).

examples?
seems like noscript + request policy continued should be almost as
good a blocker without the adblock signature.

  Does anyone know of a
 "Stealth" Ad Blocker that blocks ads, but can't be detected by the
 websites?  Something that signals to the server that the ad was
 displayed but in reality was thrown into a bit bucket?  Surely SOMEONE
 has come up with something like that by now?

https://www.privoxy.org/
  Privoxy is a non-caching web proxy with advanced filtering
capabilities for enhancing privacy, modifying web page data and HTTP
headers, controlling access, and removing ads and other obnoxious
Internet junk.

Not quite as useful as it once was now that most sites are using
encryption (ie. https://...), but it can still block ad sites.

>>> I have the PrefBar extension, to which I added a checkbox to the PrefBar
>>> tool bar that enables or disables AdBlock Plus.  When I find a Web page
>>> that will not load with AdBlock Plus enabled, I do the following:
>>>
>>> 1.  Back out of the site.
>>>
>>> 2.  Disable AdBlock Plus.
>>>
>>> 3.  Select the link to the site.
>>>
>>> 4.  Immediately thereafter, re-enable AdBlock Plus.
>>>
>>> The Web server detects that AdBlock Plus is not enabled and thus allows
>>> the Web page to download and display.  The server cannot then detect
>>> that AdBlock Plus is enabled and blocking ads.
>>>
>> In #3, you still get ads in the web page. :(
>>
>
> No.  Very often, ads depend on scripts in the Web page running, which
> does not happen as quickly as I re-enable AdBlock Plus in step #4.

I'm a bit surprised that works without clearing the cache after step 2

Have you tried noscript + request policy continued?   Seems like that
would do almost the same thing without relying on getting abp enabled
at just the right time.

Regards,
Lee
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Re: Stealth Ad Blocker

[David E. Ross]

On 1/21/2017 2:04 AM, Ant wrote:
> On 1/20/2017 10:00 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 1/20/2017 7:40 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:
>>> I'm getting tired of all of these sites that refuse to display their
>>> contents until I disable my Ad Blocker(s).  Does anyone know of a
>>> "Stealth" Ad Blocker that blocks ads, but can't be detected by the
>>> websites?  Something that signals to the server that the ad was
>>> displayed but in reality was thrown into a bit bucket?  Surely SOMEONE
>>> has come up with something like that by now?
>>>
>>
>> I have the PrefBar extension, to which I added a checkbox to the PrefBar
>> tool bar that enables or disables AdBlock Plus.  When I find a Web page
>> that will not load with AdBlock Plus enabled, I do the following:
>>
>> 1.  Back out of the site.
>>
>> 2.  Disable AdBlock Plus.
>>
>> 3.  Select the link to the site.
>>
>> 4.  Immediately thereafter, re-enable AdBlock Plus.
>>
>> The Web server detects that AdBlock Plus is not enabled and thus allows
>> the Web page to download and display.  The server cannot then detect
>> that AdBlock Plus is enabled and blocking ads.
>>
> In #3, you still get ads in the web page. :(
> 

No.  Very often, ads depend on scripts in the Web page running, which
does not happen as quickly as I re-enable AdBlock Plus in step #4.

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At the least, I want to hear his voice.

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Re: Stealth Ad Blocker

[WaltS48]

On 01/21/2017 05:04 AM, Ant wrote:

On 1/20/2017 10:00 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/20/2017 7:40 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

I'm getting tired of all of these sites that refuse to display their
contents until I disable my Ad Blocker(s).  Does anyone know of a
"Stealth" Ad Blocker that blocks ads, but can't be detected by the
websites?  Something that signals to the server that the ad was
displayed but in reality was thrown into a bit bucket?  Surely SOMEONE
has come up with something like that by now?



I have the PrefBar extension, to which I added a checkbox to the PrefBar
tool bar that enables or disables AdBlock Plus.  When I find a Web page
that will not load with AdBlock Plus enabled, I do the following:

1.  Back out of the site.

2.  Disable AdBlock Plus.

3.  Select the link to the site.

4.  Immediately thereafter, re-enable AdBlock Plus.

The Web server detects that AdBlock Plus is not enabled and thus allows
the Web page to download and display.  The server cannot then detect
that AdBlock Plus is enabled and blocking ads.


In #3, you still get ads in the web page. :(


And I presume all the associated cookies and tracking.

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Re: Mail problem moving from Lenovo T43 to Lenovo T430

[Richard Owlett]

On 1/21/2017 5:47 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 21/01/2017 2:17 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 1/20/2017 8:12 AM, Mason83 wrote:

On 20/01/2017 12:47, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 1/19/2017 4:13 PM, Mason83 wrote:

On 19/01/2017 12:43, Richard Owlett wrote:


The immediate problem revolves around the differing screen
aspect
ratios. The screen of the T430 is shorter by ~1.5 inches while
maintaining an ~14 inch diagonal.

While researching the various layouts SeaMonkey can use, I
would
like to use both machines for email. Leaving my email on
the POP
server is not an option [a *personal* decision not based on
tech
issues].

I've couple of screwy ideas for keeping both machines in step.
I would like to hear the ideas of others before I muddy the
waters.
Thank you.


You want to sync an email account, but not through the email
server?
So IMAP is out of the question? Then obviously, you need to
sync the
local storage, no way around that.



Y-E-S As they say "the devil is in the details" ;/


Details such as, which OS are both PCs running.


I'm approaching this from an OS agnostic point-of-view.
[See my reply to Ray Davison yesterday]
In my specific case it could be
   Linux <--> WinXP Pro
or
   Linux <--> Linux
Depending on conditions outside the scope of this thread.


Richard, do you dual boot your OS's??


Not in the traditional sense ;/


I have one laptop on which I dual boot Win7 and various Linux's.
I have SeaMonkey installed on both OS's and have the profile on
a Win7 drive, as Linux can "see" and, therefore, use that same profile.



The T430 has only Debian Jessie.
The T43 nominally has only WinXP Pro.
I say "nominally" because (from an unrelated project) I do have a 
bootable copy of Debian Jessie on a flash drive. It requires I 
must manually interrupt the T43's boot sequence.


Running Debian on the T43 would simplify things specific to this 
thread but complicate my life in other ways. In the near future 
some off topic issues should be resolved and the whole problem 
should just go away.

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Re: Mail problem moving from Lenovo T43 to Lenovo T430

[Daniel]

On 21/01/2017 2:17 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 1/20/2017 8:12 AM, Mason83 wrote:

On 20/01/2017 12:47, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 1/19/2017 4:13 PM, Mason83 wrote:

On 19/01/2017 12:43, Richard Owlett wrote:


The immediate problem revolves around the differing screen aspect
ratios. The screen of the T430 is shorter by ~1.5 inches while
maintaining an ~14 inch diagonal.

While researching the various layouts SeaMonkey can use, I would
like to use both machines for email. Leaving my email on the POP
server is not an option [a *personal* decision not based on tech
issues].

I've couple of screwy ideas for keeping both machines in step.
I would like to hear the ideas of others before I muddy the waters.
Thank you.


You want to sync an email account, but not through the email server?
So IMAP is out of the question? Then obviously, you need to sync the
local storage, no way around that.



Y-E-S As they say "the devil is in the details" ;/


Details such as, which OS are both PCs running.


I'm approaching this from an OS agnostic point-of-view.
[See my reply to Ray Davison yesterday]
In my specific case it could be
   Linux <--> WinXP Pro
or
   Linux <--> Linux
Depending on conditions outside the scope of this thread.


Richard, do you dual boot your OS's?? I have one laptop on which I dual 
boot Win7 and various Linux's. I have SeaMonkey installed on both OS's 
and have the profile on a Win7 drive, as Linux can "see" and, therefore, 
use that same profile.


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Re: Mail problem moving from Lenovo T43 to Lenovo T430

[Richard Owlett]

On 1/20/2017 5:27 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:


In my case it is likely to 2 or 3 times a day



and I wanted to avoid copying the whole mail folder of my profile
that many times [stuck with USB2 at the moment].


I suspect you don't change the profile several times a day.  So,
if you first get the profile away from the app, and then get the
mail out of the profile, is makes copying just what has changed
easier.


Step 1 in my previous post handles that.


And then, have whatever function you use to copy, have
it only copy what has changed.  There probably has not been a lot
that has changed in a few hours.  And, make A match B can be a
one button operation.


Step 4 pretty much handles that.



And, while "syncing" can be automated, I want any overwriting of
files to be only at the precise moment I chose.  No "auto
updates".  That reduces surprises.


Agreed. When I wrote Steps 1-6 I was "flow charting" a script 
which would be manually invoked. Actually it will be two scripts 
as one machine is Linux and the other WinXP.


In a full day it appears that each machine will accumulate ~30 
emails which need to be copied to the other.





copied to flash for transfer.


Is there some reason you are stuck with sneaker net rather than
direct machine-to-machine?


 with an aspect of 
My view of a "minimalist network" is evidently not socially 
acceptable to the current generation. I have two laptops with 
compatible Ethernet hardware. I wish to define my "network" as 
having exactly 3 physical components --{ 2 computers + 1 Ethernet 
patch cable = 1 network ;} Gee, does that not sound like a 
updated RS232-C null modem application. I'm being flamed for not 
wanting to stick a router/switch/hub/other between two machines 
with static IP's instead of learning some details of Ethernet. I 
remember when a UART was several square inches of PCB rather than 
a single chip. There is >30 years since I dealt with component 
level implementations rather than prepackaged pablum. I'm 
retired. Why shouldn't I want to continue learning? 


I've accumulated a batch of Wikipedia links on the general topic 
of Ethernet for theory.
Though I'm a Debian user, I've found an apparent treasure trove 
of implementation details on _Linux From Scratch_ mailing lists.


Any suggestions for sources I should examine or a mailing list 
where how I wish to use Ethernet would be on topic and acceptable?





As for different aspect ratios, I have wide screen LCD and narrow
CRTs. I don't pay any attention to the difference.


I take it that you're not of the tri-focal generation ;/


Oh, I am way beyond that.  But I got Lasik so I can drive without
glasses, and I have a family of short range glasses which
basically cover reading, computer and under a dashboard.  Some
soldering is with a ten power head band.

Ray




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Re: Stealth Ad Blocker

[Ant]

On 1/20/2017 10:00 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/20/2017 7:40 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

I'm getting tired of all of these sites that refuse to display their
contents until I disable my Ad Blocker(s).  Does anyone know of a
"Stealth" Ad Blocker that blocks ads, but can't be detected by the
websites?  Something that signals to the server that the ad was
displayed but in reality was thrown into a bit bucket?  Surely SOMEONE
has come up with something like that by now?



I have the PrefBar extension, to which I added a checkbox to the PrefBar
tool bar that enables or disables AdBlock Plus.  When I find a Web page
that will not load with AdBlock Plus enabled, I do the following:

1.  Back out of the site.

2.  Disable AdBlock Plus.

3.  Select the link to the site.

4.  Immediately thereafter, re-enable AdBlock Plus.

The Web server detects that AdBlock Plus is not enabled and thus allows
the Web page to download and display.  The server cannot then detect
that AdBlock Plus is enabled and blocking ads.


In #3, you still get ads in the web page. :(
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