Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

I got a HTML e-mail with its hidden section when using plain text
mode. It only shows up in HTML mode (both original and simple). The
section was

    
 http://CXTSoftware.recruiterbox.com/questionnaires/fb035u/";>
 CXT Software Applicant Questions for Employment
Consideration Form
 
 


 


Shouldn't this part be shown in plain text too? Maybe a bug? :(

Thank you in advance. :)


The e-mail you received may have a text/plain alternate part that does
not really contain the entire content of the HTML part. If that is the
case, the bug is on the e-mail client which was used to send the message
(or the sender) and not in Seamonkey.

Try to inspect the raw source of the message (ctrl+U), look for a
text/plain part and check its contents. It may be base64-encoded,
though.


Ah, I will check again later. Thanks. :)


I got another e-mail and searched:

--b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi ...


--b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b
Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

...


So, the sender is sending both HTML and plain text formats in a single 
e-mail. Interesting!

--
"Ants can lift up to 50 times their own weight. And your monitor is 
missing. Time to bring out the bugspray." --BBspot's Geek Horoscopes 
(2/28/2003)
Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see 
this signature correctly.

   /\___/\   Ant(Dude) @ Personal Web Site http://antfarm.ma.cx
  / /\ /\ \
 | |o   o| |  If crediting, then use Ant nickname and URL/link.
\ _ /  Axe ANT from its address if e-mailing privately.
 ( )
___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

Re: Adblock Plus Issue

[Daniel]

Tom Pamin wrote on 26/03/18 20:42:
Yes, I'm just referring to Adblock appearing on my dropdown Tools menu. 
I just enabled and disabled AB again, and now it has disappeared from my 
Tools menu.


Ah!! O.K., glad to hear!


--
Daniel

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

[Daniel]

Ant wrote on 27/03/18 17:58:

I got a HTML e-mail with its hidden section when using plain text
mode. It only shows up in HTML mode (both original and simple). The
section was

    
 http://CXTSoftware.recruiterbox.com/questionnaires/fb035u/";>
 CXT Software Applicant Questions for Employment
Consideration Form
 
 


 


Shouldn't this part be shown in plain text too? Maybe a bug? :(

Thank you in advance. :)


The e-mail you received may have a text/plain alternate part that does
not really contain the entire content of the HTML part. If that is the
case, the bug is on the e-mail client which was used to send the message
(or the sender) and not in Seamonkey.

Try to inspect the raw source of the message (ctrl+U), look for a
text/plain part and check its contents. It may be base64-encoded,
though.


Ah, I will check again later. Thanks. :)


I got another e-mail and searched:

--b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi ...


--b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b
Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

...


So, the sender is sending both HTML and plain text formats in a single 
e-mail. Interesting!


That is definitely possible, Ant. I think there is a setting in SM to 
send both formats so those who like "Text only" are satisfied as are 
those that like all the bells and whistles of HTML.


Ah!! There you go ... Edit->Preferences->Mail & Newsgroups->Send Format, 
fourth selection.

--
Daniel

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

Re: Disable Help Screen?

[Tom Pamin]

The new keyboard fixed the problem.

Tom Pamin wrote:

I shut down my PC, and thus SM, every day. I noticed that IE uses F1
also for help, and its help window pops up awaking from sleep also when
IE is open. I'm trying a new keyboard on Sunday.

NFN Smith wrote:

Thomas Pamin wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Thomas Pamin wrote on 23-03-18 12:33:

Is there a way to disable the SM Help Window? It's popping up at times
I don't need it.

I never seen the help-window poping-up ... perhaps, you have
inadvertently pressed the F1 key ?


It pops up every time my PC wakes from sleep. No one can help me so far.



It sounds like you keep Seamonkey open all the time. When is the last
time you restarted Seamonkey?  How long has it been since you last
restarted your computer (i.e., how many times have you put it to sleep,
since the last restart?)

I'm inclined to believe that there's some sort of stray signal coming
from Windows that's triggering the pop-up.

I suggest a simple restart of Seamonkey. If you're still seeing issues,
then a cold restart of the computer.

It looks like you're using Windows 10, and if you are, a simple restart
is sufficient.  For Windows 7, you want to do a full power-off shut down.

Since Windows 8, Microsoft has tweaked Windows so that initiating
"shutdown" actually hibernates the computer, where there's some power in
the circuitry. Initiating "restart" will do a shutdown of the computer,
although a restart will happen quickly enough that there isn't time for
the power to be completely drained from the system.  There's a tweak
that you can make in Windows to force the more traditional handling of
sleep/hibernate/shutdown, although I won't try to describe here.

In any case, I think the problem is simply that Windows needs a restart.

Smith




___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

[SOMVED] - Re: Disable Help Screen?

[Ray_Net]

Thanks for telling us.
It was not normal that you had the problem with SM and also with IE :-)
Tom Pamin wrote on 27-03-18 11:29:

The new keyboard fixed the problem.

Tom Pamin wrote:

I shut down my PC, and thus SM, every day. I noticed that IE uses F1
also for help, and its help window pops up awaking from sleep also when
IE is open. I'm trying a new keyboard on Sunday.

NFN Smith wrote:

Thomas Pamin wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Thomas Pamin wrote on 23-03-18 12:33:
Is there a way to disable the SM Help Window? It's popping up at 
times

I don't need it.

I never seen the help-window poping-up ... perhaps, you have
inadvertently pressed the F1 key ?


It pops up every time my PC wakes from sleep. No one can help me so 
far.



It sounds like you keep Seamonkey open all the time. When is the last
time you restarted Seamonkey?  How long has it been since you last
restarted your computer (i.e., how many times have you put it to sleep,
since the last restart?)

I'm inclined to believe that there's some sort of stray signal coming
from Windows that's triggering the pop-up.

I suggest a simple restart of Seamonkey. If you're still seeing issues,
then a cold restart of the computer.

It looks like you're using Windows 10, and if you are, a simple restart
is sufficient.  For Windows 7, you want to do a full power-off shut 
down.


Since Windows 8, Microsoft has tweaked Windows so that initiating
"shutdown" actually hibernates the computer, where there's some 
power in

the circuitry. Initiating "restart" will do a shutdown of the computer,
although a restart will happen quickly enough that there isn't time for
the power to be completely drained from the system.  There's a tweak
that you can make in Windows to force the more traditional handling of
sleep/hibernate/shutdown, although I won't try to describe here.

In any case, I think the problem is simply that Windows needs a 
restart.


Smith






___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

On 3/27/2018 1:36 AM, Daniel wrote:

Ant wrote on 27/03/18 17:58:

I got a HTML e-mail with its hidden section when using plain text
mode. It only shows up in HTML mode (both original and simple). The
section was

    
 http://CXTSoftware.recruiterbox.com/questionnaires/fb035u/";>
 CXT Software Applicant Questions for Employment
Consideration Form
 
 


 


Shouldn't this part be shown in plain text too? Maybe a bug? :(

Thank you in advance. :)


The e-mail you received may have a text/plain alternate part that does
not really contain the entire content of the HTML part. If that is the
case, the bug is on the e-mail client which was used to send the 
message

(or the sender) and not in Seamonkey.

Try to inspect the raw source of the message (ctrl+U), look for a
text/plain part and check its contents. It may be base64-encoded,
though.


Ah, I will check again later. Thanks. :)


I got another e-mail and searched:

--b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi ...


--b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b
Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

...


So, the sender is sending both HTML and plain text formats in a single 
e-mail. Interesting!


That is definitely possible, Ant. I think there is a setting in SM to 
send both formats so those who like "Text only" are satisfied as are 
those that like all the bells and whistles of HTML.


Ah!! There you go ... Edit->Preferences->Mail & Newsgroups->Send Format, 
fourth selection.


Thanks. Darn, I wished senders would include the same informations in 
both formats in their single e-mails. Argh. I keep seeing missing datas 
in plain text formats while their HTML formats show more. :(

--
Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see 
this signature correctly.

   /\___/\   Ant(Dude) @ Personal Web Site http://antfarm.ma.cx
  / /\ /\ \
 | |o   o| |  If crediting, then use Ant nickname and URL/link.
\ _ /  Axe ANT from its address if e-mailing privately.
 ( )
___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

Re: Awful memory leaks

[IRRITATING SPAMMER]

Mason83 wrote:

Hello,

There is, as far as I can see, a large memory leak somewhere
in the TB code:

2,790,110,536 B (100.0%) -- explicit
+--2,359,661,280 B (84.57%) -- maildb
¦  +737,522,464 B (26.43%) -- database(news://SNIP
¦  +692,232,288 B (24.81%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +222,021,472 B (07.96%) -- database(news://SNIP
¦  +180,562,496 B (06.47%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +138,690,496 B (04.97%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +121,302,864 B (04.35%) -- database(snews://SNIP
¦  +-96,929,744 B (03.47%) -- database(snews://SNIP
¦  +-48,629,440 B (01.74%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +-42,458,432 B (01.52%) -- database(snews://SNIP
¦  +-24,473,008 B (00.88%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +-21,606,800 B (00.77%) -- database(news://SNIP
¦  +-10,834,000 B (00.39%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +--5,589,824 B (00.20%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +--4,862,032 B (00.17%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +--3,337,296 B (00.12%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +--2,627,888 B (00.09%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +--1,382,832 B (00.05%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +786,896 B (00.03%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +786,128 B (00.03%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +674,128 B (00.02%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +503,184 B (00.02%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +481,776 B (00.02%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +341,904 B (00.01%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +240,256 B (00.01%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +166,416 B (00.01%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +164,352 B (00.01%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +143,680 B (00.01%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +103,104 B (00.00%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +103,104 B (00.00%) -- database(mailbox://SNIP
¦  +102,976 B (00.00%) -- database(imap://SNIP


737 MB of RAM to store the index of a single newsgroup?
And 692 MB for my main inbox? Something looks fishy there.


   76 B ── gfx-surface-image
  768 B ── gfx-surface-xlib
0 B ── gfx-textures
0 B ── gfx-textures-peak
0 B ── gfx-tiles-waste
  0 ── ghost-windows
2,112,485,288 B ── heap-allocated
1,048,576 B ── heap-chunksize
2,320,498,688 B ── heap-mapped
  0 ── host-object-urls
   24,929,212 B ── imagelib-surface-cache-estimated-locked
   24,930,812 B ── imagelib-surface-cache-estimated-total
  0 ── imagelib-surface-cache-overflow-count
5,087,232 B ── js-main-runtime-temporary-peak
 25,966 ── page-faults-hard
386,639,447 ── page-faults-soft
2,847,887,360 B ── resident
3,155,869,696 B ── resident-peak
2,574,921,728 B ── resident-unique
0 B ── system-heap-allocated
5,839,982,592 B ── vsize


5.8 GB of VM for a few tabs open sounds completely unreasonable.

Is there any work around other than quitting/restarting SM?

Regards.



My "explicit" is 522.23 MB
maildb is121.81 MB
window-objects97.85 MB
heap-unclassified 95.55 MB
js-non-window 65.23 MB

Both of us are using Linux.
Does it help a bit if you close and reopen the News/Mail part of Seamonkey?
I also don't understand why your figures are in Bytes and mine in MB.


--
cogito ergo spam
___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

[EE]

Daniel wrote:

Ant wrote on 27/03/18 17:58:

I got a HTML e-mail with its hidden section when using plain text
mode. It only shows up in HTML mode (both original and simple). The
section was

    
 http://CXTSoftware.recruiterbox.com/questionnaires/fb035u/";>
 CXT Software Applicant Questions for Employment
Consideration Form
 
 


 


Shouldn't this part be shown in plain text too? Maybe a bug? :(

Thank you in advance. :)


The e-mail you received may have a text/plain alternate part that does
not really contain the entire content of the HTML part. If that is the
case, the bug is on the e-mail client which was used to send the 
message

(or the sender) and not in Seamonkey.

Try to inspect the raw source of the message (ctrl+U), look for a
text/plain part and check its contents. It may be base64-encoded,
though.


Ah, I will check again later. Thanks. :)


I got another e-mail and searched:

--b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi ...


--b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b
Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

...


So, the sender is sending both HTML and plain text formats in a single 
e-mail. Interesting!


That is definitely possible, Ant. I think there is a setting in SM to 
send both formats so those who like "Text only" are satisfied as are 
those that like all the bells and whistles of HTML.


Ah!! There you go ... Edit->Preferences->Mail & Newsgroups->Send Format, 
fourth selection.


I have had to re-educate business organizations who insist on sending 
multipart email to put something useful into the plain text part of the 
message, since that is the only part I would see.  Some of them actually 
learned!


___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

Re: No automatic upgrades for this version, in red on home screen.

[Mort Linder]

Hi Paul,

Thanks for your reply. How do I find "the downloads section", in order 
to do a new download? I have been clicking on the red right upper notice 
to upgrade/download each time.


Mort Linder


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Mort Linder wrote:

I downloaded the latest version of Sea Monkey, 2.49.2, and still get a 
notice in red letters on the home page, that there will be no 
automatic upgrades. What can I do to get these upgrades? I am running 
Windows 7 Pro 64 bit.


If all you did was "download" it, you haven't installed it.

But if you mean to say you "installed" it (which is what it looks like 
from your user agent string), you're fine. The notice at 
 is still correct for people wishing 
to upgrade from previous versions.


What will happen for future versions is anyone's guess -- "watch this 
space," as they say.





---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

Re: No automatic upgrades for this version, in red on home screen.

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Mort Linder wrote:


Thanks for your reply. How do I find "the downloads section", in
order to do a new download? I have been clicking on the red right
upper notice to upgrade/download each time.


AFAICT you're already running the latest stable release, 2.49.2. You can 
confirm by going to Help | About in the SeaMonkey menu.


If not, go to the home page I linked, 
, and you should see a bright green 
sign at the top right, "Download now." If Windows English isn't what you 
want, click "Other Systems & Languages."


Don't get no easier'n 'at.

--
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher

___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

Re: No automatic upgrades for this version, in red on home screen.

[David E. Ross]

On 3/27/2018 3:22 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Mort Linder wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for your reply. How do I find "the downloads section", in
>> order to do a new download? I have been clicking on the red right
>> upper notice to upgrade/download each time.
> 
> AFAICT you're already running the latest stable release, 2.49.2. You can 
> confirm by going to Help | About in the SeaMonkey menu.
> 
> If not, go to the home page I linked, 
> , and you should see a bright green 
> sign at the top right, "Download now." If Windows English isn't what you 
> want, click "Other Systems & Languages."
> 
> Don't get no easier'n 'at.
> 

I download new versions from .
Although the domain begins with "ftp", it is actually a primative Web
site.

-- 
David E. Ross


First you say you do, and then you don't.
And then you say you will, but then won't.
You're undecided now, so what're you goin' to do?
From a 1950s song
That should be Donald Trump's theme song.  He obviously
does not understand "commitment", whether it is about
policy or marriage.
___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

...> I have had to re-educate business organizations who insist on sending
multipart email to put something useful into the plain text part of the 
message, since that is the only part I would see.  Some of them actually 
learned!


I kindly e-mail back that I don't see that information, but they insist 
it is my fault and to use a better e-mail client. :(

--
"Even the sharpest ear cannot hear an ant singing." --Sudanese
Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see 
this signature correctly.

   /\___/\   Ant(Dude) @ Personal Web Site http://antfarm.ma.cx
  / /\ /\ \
 | |o   o| |  If crediting, then use Ant nickname and URL/link.
\ _ /  Axe ANT from its address if e-mailing privately.
 ( )
___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

[Daniel]

EE wrote on 28/03/18 06:01:

Daniel wrote:

Ant wrote on 27/03/18 17:58:

I got a HTML e-mail with its hidden section when using plain text
mode. It only shows up in HTML mode (both original and simple). The
section was

    
 http://CXTSoftware.recruiterbox.com/questionnaires/fb035u/";>
 CXT Software Applicant Questions for Employment
Consideration Form
 
 


 


Shouldn't this part be shown in plain text too? Maybe a bug? :(

Thank you in advance. :)


The e-mail you received may have a text/plain alternate part that does
not really contain the entire content of the HTML part. If that is the
case, the bug is on the e-mail client which was used to send the 
message

(or the sender) and not in Seamonkey.

Try to inspect the raw source of the message (ctrl+U), look for a
text/plain part and check its contents. It may be base64-encoded,
though.


Ah, I will check again later. Thanks. :)


I got another e-mail and searched:

--b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi ...


--b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b
Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

...


So, the sender is sending both HTML and plain text formats in a 
single e-mail. Interesting!


That is definitely possible, Ant. I think there is a setting in SM to 
send both formats so those who like "Text only" are satisfied as are 
those that like all the bells and whistles of HTML.


Ah!! There you go ... Edit->Preferences->Mail & Newsgroups->Send 
Format, fourth selection.


I have had to re-educate business organizations who insist on sending 
multipart email to put something useful into the plain text part of the 
message, since that is the only part I would see.  Some of them actually 
learned!


One has to wonder why "they" would bother sending the text portion if 
they are not going to put anything in the text portion!! ;-(


--
Daniel

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey