Re: How can one overide Windows 10's block against installing the new Seamonkey version?

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Click on "More info" then "Install anyway"

On 3/31/2021 12:14 AM, Julia Bolton Holloway wrote:
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Re: Settings for IMAP account for Yahoo

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 3/11/2021 10:08 AM, JAS wrote:
What are the settings for setting up a Yahoo account in Seamonkey mail 
or will even a IMAP account work. I have several POP account with Yahoo 
that I have disabled as they do not work anymore.


JAS


You can use the standard Yahoo IMAP settings without jumping through the 
third-party apps hoops if you use OAuth2 as the authentication method.


https://en-global.help.yahoo.com/kb/SLN4075.html

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Re: Blocking spam

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On 2/22/2021 4:52 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Dirk Fieldhouse wrote on 22-02-21 11:41:

On 21/02/2021 22:44, Ray_Net wrote:

...>

I have two spam-mail at 6h30 and 23h30 each day.
All mails are totally different . the only partially fixed part 
is that line:


"Received: from news1.afrophree.com (news1.afrophree.com [81.29.1.46] 
(may be forged))"


The names of the news servers are always didderrent and thei domain 
is NOT part of the ip adress.


The ip-adresses are always different, but still of the same domain 
which is: iahoster.com


How can I create a filter to catch the range ip-adresses -->
% Information related to '81.29.0.0 - 81.29.15.255' ?

Create a message filter. Use the Customise... entry in the header 
pull-down to add the Received header to the menu. Filter on "Received" 
"contains" ".afrophree.com" -> Set Junk Status.


/df

Sorry ... your idea doesnot work, because the domain names are always 
different the only fixed part is the ip adress range.from '81.29.0.0 to 
81.29.15.255

Examples:
Received: from web-1.multhe.com (web-1.multhe.com [81.29.1.178] (may be 
forged))
Received: from news1.afrophree.com (news1.afrophree.com [81.29.1.46] 
(may be forged))
Received: from cloud-1.produchic.com (cloud-1.produchic.com 
[81.29.1.244] (may be forged))
Received: from cloud-1.alizarcresit.com (cloud-1.alizarcresit.com 
[81.29.1.47] (may be forged))
Received: from secure-1.boonawkerien.com (secure-1.boonawkerien.com 
[81.29.1.238] (may be forged))




Received contains 81.29

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Re: Yahoo Mail Problem With SM

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On 2/12/2021 8:39 PM, Henrik37 wrote:

David H. Durgee wrote:

Henrik37 wrote:

David H. Durgee wrote:

Henrik37 wrote:
My ability to download Yahoo mail via SM has suddenly stopped 
working. Has something changed that I missed?


Thanks, in advance, for any ideas, suggestions, or guidance.


Using POP3 or IMAP?  Yahoo said some time ago that they would be 
discontinuing POP3 at some point in the future.


I am having no such problems with my IMAP Yahoo email as of two 
hours ago when I received my last email there.


Dave

Thank for your response.

I had been set up using POP3.  Where do I find instructions for 
changing the account to IMAP?


Unfortunately you cannot change an account from POP3 to IMAP, you will 
need to set up a new account.


Dave

Thanks for your note.

I'm now thoroughly confused.

1) Can I use the same name as on the existing POP account?
2) If so, will all of the present e-mail subscriptions automatically 
transfer?

3) Do you have any suggestions on how to proceed (or what NOT to do)?


This is for Thunderbird but it's close enough to SeaMonkey to get you 
started.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/switch-pop-imap-account

The "Transfer your local messages to the server" section can take some 
time if you have a LOT of messages to move.


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Re: Xfinity email much slower loading on SeaMonkey than on Firefox

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 2/11/2021 2:07 PM, no...@nonospam.org wrote:

This is the link to go to an email account on Xfinity:

https://connect.xfinity.com/appsuite/

On Firefox v85.0.2, the page always opens within a few seconds.

On SeaMonkey v2.53.5.1, the page opens slowly and frequently presents an 
error message saying the service is temporarily unavailable. Immediately 
re-loading always opens the page within a few more seconds.


This is a relatively recent problem, going on for about 2 months. It was 
never an issue previously.


Using this link prevents the connection from timing out, but it still 
takes much longer to load with SeaMonkey than with Firefox.


https://connect.xfinity.com/appsuite/#waitSeconds=60

To a certain extent, this seems to depend on how long it has been since 
the last time I visited the page. The longer it has been, (a few hours 
compared to a few minutes) the more likely that it will time-out.


Just another instance of a page that is somehow less compatible with 
SeaMonkey than with Firefox.


Why are these issues of browser incompatibility on the increase? Thanks!

John


Another data point: I clicked the first link 11 times. No time-outs.

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Re: SeaMonkey Upgrade 2.39 to 2.53.6

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 2/3/2021 5:04 PM, Danny Kile wrote:
My wife's PC has not been upgraded in awhile she is running SM ver. 2.39 
on Windows 8. Can in install SM 2.53.6 directly or should install an 
intermediate version first?


I will backup before installing, like I always do on my PC.

Thank you for the responses in this matter.


Danny,


Check carefully the upgrade/install instructions in the Release Notes:
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.6/

In particular,
"If you are on an older release we suggest upgrading to SeaMonkey 2.49.5 
first."


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Re: An important site that doesn't work with SeaMonkey

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 1/25/2021 12:36 PM, Ray Davison wrote:
 I cannot use SM at Chase.  



Chase works for me with:
general.useragent.override.chase.com:  Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; 
Win64; x64; rv:81.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/81.0


Every few months I have to update the "rv" and "Firefox" levels.

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Re: Teams in Seamonkey or FireFox?

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 1/19/2021 11:06 AM, Hawker wrote:
Is there any way to get Microsoft Teams to work in Seamonkey or maybe at 
least FireFox?


When I click the link it doesn't even give me the option in SM or 
FireFox. Works in Opera but I don't really use Opera.


Microsoft provides this info for "unsupported browsers":
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoftteams/unsupported-browsers

This extension (which I have not used) may help:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/refined-microsoft-teams/

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Re: ARD Mediathek: Page contents vanishes after few seconds

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 1/10/2021 10:22 AM, mike wrote:

On 10.01.2021 16:52, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

1. visit https://www.ardmediathek.de/ard/#
    » Expected: Heading, heading picture and many thumbnails for contents
  shown
  Actual: contents appears, but vanishes after 1 second or so.


Looks like something with Javascript. If you disable Javascript or just
block https://www.ardmediathek.de/main.940c64ac.js, the page doesn't
disappear. You can then navigate to the program you want to see, then
re-enable Javascript and watch.



Open Developer Tools (Ctrl+Shift+I) and select the Console tab.  There 
are numerous Javascript TypeError messages where the code references 
objects not recognized by SeaMonkey.


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Re: Weird, minor issue since upgrade to 2.53.5.1

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 1/3/2021 2:04 PM, Rick & Sharon wrote:

Been loving Mozilla since the NetScape days, current install info:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.5.1


Build identifier: 20201115194905

Upgraded several different home PCs/laptops to newest version, but on 
this machine (primary PC in the house), I've developed 1 niggle: with a 
newsgroup subscription open and multiple articles displayed, cannot use 
'ctrl-shift-C' to mark all items as read.  This still works on other 
devices, just not this PC.


All devices are running Win10, updated.  If I manually select all items 
in the Thread pane and right-click, then click Mark - as Read, that 
works.  As well, if I right-click on the Newsgroup name and click Mark 
Newsgroup Read, that also works.  Only the keyboard shortcut is failing, 
and only for this PC.  Any suggestions on what to look at for possible 
resolution to restore this keyboard shortcut?


Use Help -> Restart with Add-Ons Disabled.

Any change?

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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 11/25/2020 11:02 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Hello,

Going to: 
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx 



shows me a header page with a "Se connecter" red-button permitting me to 
be connected to my bank.


This is true with Chrome and Firefox.

With SM the "header page with that login button" is simply missing.


See thread beginning Sept 2, 2020: RottenTomatoes.com rejects SeaMonkey 
even with fake UAs.


That site (and your bank) requires a browser that has support for the 
javascript object windows.customElements.  I don't think that's yet 
present in SeaMonkey.

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Re: Change in password retention in MailNews?

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 11/21/2020 1:23 PM, NFN Smith wrote:
This one may be a little bit of a personal quirk, but my handling of 
email going to my work account and primary personal account is done 
where I let the Seamonkey password manager remember my password for SMTP 
and LDAP access, but where I don't allow it to remember for POP access. 
To me, because I have complex passwords, it's useful to have to enter 
those regularly, as a way of ensuring that I never forget them -- and 
there are occasions where it is useful to know that I have them 
memorized, without having to rely on my external password manager.


I'm used to the idea that a password needs to be entered once per 
session, and since I have Seamonkey open all day, entering those 
passwords once per day is an acceptable intrusion, if I don't have need 
to restart Seamonkey.


However, I'm seeing that after a few hours open, Seamonkey seems to be 
forgetting the entered passwords, and where I have to manually re-enter 
to check for new mail.  I just upgraded to 2.53.5.1 it's still 
happening.  I haven't watched closely, but this seems to have started 
happening since 2.53.4.  Is there some change to Seamonkey that would 
cause the difference in handling?


I checked my server settings, and I have one set to check for new 
messages every 15 minutes and the other every 30 minutes. I've 
experimented with lowering both to 5 minute intervals, and I'm still 
seeing the same effect. I'm not sure how frequently I have to re-enter 
passwords, but over the course of about 9 hours, I have to re-enter at 
least twice.


Should I just accept things, and let Seamonkey remember my POP passwords?

Smith


I noticed similar behavior beginning in 2.53.4.  I'm now entering IMAP 
passwords several times a day instead of when first opening SeaMonkey Mail.


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Re: choicehotels.com is another one.

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 11/10/2020 3:59 PM, Ant wrote:

On 11/10/2020 7:07 AM, JAS wrote:
...

And http://www.choicehotels.com/ freezes my browser most of the time


:(


Seems to work for me with 2.53.4.  uBlock Origin indicates it's blocking 
11 requests.


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Re: updates

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 9/25/2020 8:12 AM, Doug Hughes wrote:

Good Morning

I have and use Sea Monkey on two PC's
On this particular PC,2.53.1 Seamonkey says it is up to date and there 
are no available updates.
On my other PC, 2.53.3  Seamonkey and says an update to 2.53.4 is 
available, yet windows wont let me install
because publisher is unknown. One or the other PC I suspect is infected 
with a clone or is there some way

to clarify whats going on here?
any help would be appreciated.
Regards

Doug



The warning is bogus.  There's a link on that Windows warning page that 
says something like "Details" or "More Info", etc.  Click that and on 
the next page click on "Install".


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Re: New York Times front page malfunctions

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On 9/28/2020 9:47 AM, flyguy wrote:
The "hamburger" menu and looking-glass search icon at the top left of 
the front page (nytimes.com) stopped working in the last few days; also 
missing from the top of the front page on the right side is the "play 
the crossword" button and the Log In button. All these items appear and 
work in Chrome. What's going on?


The hamburger appears for me all the time. I can make the others appear 
(or not) by changing the width of my browser window.


Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.3


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Re: Cannot Access Verizon.com LogIn OR Chase.com SM 2.53.4 W10 Pro

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 9/27/2020 12:53 PM, Samuel S wrote:

Having issues with verizon.com login stalling and not connecting and

Chase indicating that the browser is no longer supported...


They both work like a charm in chrome...

TIA for your input and assistance - bo1953


Chase works for me after using about:config to define
general.useragent.override.chase.com
set to
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:81.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/81.0


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Re: No vertical scroll bar ...

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 9/2/2020 7:34 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

No vertical scroll bar ...

https://fr.surveymonkey.com/mp/legal/cookies/

Works ok with Google Chrome.

Again you will say that the problem is at te webmaster of the site :-)



Well, yes.  The "body" stanza of the site CSS includes the rule:
overflow:  -moz-scrollbars-none;

If I disable that rule using Developer Tools the scrollbar re-appears.

I have no idea what they are trying to accomplish with that.

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Re: Another reason to avoid using SEAMONKEY

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On 8/11/2020 4:25 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
I had problem with ZOOM ... so I test it with two other free sites 
(because a ZOOM meeting must be opened by someone paying for the use of it)
I was in SM 2.49.1 and I expected that this problem will be resolved 
with the latest 2.53.3 - NO - NOT SOLVED - SM is UNUSABLE ...


Those are my latest tests:

-

https://meet.infomaniak.com/MY-MEETING
give a blank screen

https://meet.jit.si/MY-MEETING
give a screen with:
It looks like you're using a browser we don't support
Please try again with the latest version of Chrome or Firefox.

*** THEREFORE I DO ***
for both - creating in user.js
user_pref("general.useragent.override.jit.si", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 
6.1; WOW64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/67.0");

restarting SM and testing:

https://meet.infomaniak.com/MY-MEETING
works but unable to use the camera nor the microphone

https://meet.jit.si/MY-MEETING
works, but:
- Cannot start the camera -no reason
- Cannot start the microphone
   reason: Failed to access your microphone - Cannot use microphone for 
an unknown reason navigator mediaDevices is undefined.


*** AND NOW WITH CHROME ***

With Google Chrome:
https://meet.jit.si/MY-MEETING
Works immediately with the possibility to stop/start the microphne or 
stop/start the camera.

https://meet.infomaniak.com/MY-MEETING
Works immediately with the possibility to stop/start the microphne or 
start/stop the camera.




I have a free ZOOM account.  I hosted a meeting last Friday with no 
problems.


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Re: Yahooo/AT&T Webmail Access

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 8/8/2020 5:35 AM, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey wrote:
Yahoo/AT&T seems to implemented off-site authentication so a useragent 
override in about:config for just yahoo.com doesn't work (for me, at 
least) anymore.


Use Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> HTTP Networking to select 
Firefox (only), User Agent Switcher or your spoofer of choice to get 
past the guards at the door.


 pages load some scripts and other resources from , 
so you might need to set a user-agent override for that domain as well. 
Otherwise, if you're up for it, you could try having the "Network" tab 
of of the web development tools (Tools > Web Development > Toggle Tools) 
open as you try logging in, to see if any other domains are being 
accessed.  I don't have a Yahoo account, so can't get that far.


 From a quick search, it looks like AT&T is at , so might need 
an override for that domain for AT&T's site to work.




User Agent Switcher is fine for me the few times I have to access my 
AT&T account through webmail.


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Yahooo/AT&T Webmail Access

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

Yahoo/AT&T seems to implemented off-site authentication so a useragent 
override in about:config for just yahoo.com doesn't work (for me, at 
least) anymore.


Use Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> HTTP Networking to select Firefox 
(only), User Agent Switcher or your spoofer of choice to get past the 
guards at the door.


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Re: Access Denied - CarMax.com

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On 8/3/2020 3:34 PM, Danny Kile wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Danny Kile wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Danny Kile wrote:

Going to carmax.com I get the following error:

Access Denied
You don't have permission to access "http://www.carmax.com/"; on 
this server.


Reference #18.2d891ab8.1596029342.1765be0e

I works just fine with Chrome.

What is my solution? Thank you!


This is a Seamonkey forum and your user-agent claims you are using 
Firefox 63.0.3, no trace of Seamonkey at all.
btw, I can also access that site with my geriatric version of 
Seamonkey.




I have tried several user-agents strings and none seem to make a 
deference. Right now I am using the following:


Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.3


And it dose the same thing Access Denied.

I have tried a different user profile and that seem to work. However 
I am not willing to switch user profile to get one site to work. I 
would like to get this one working.


Thank you to all that have replied to this message. Ant other 
suggestions.


Does it work with your normal profile if started in "safe mode" (Help 
> Restart with Add-ons Disabled)?  Which extensions do you have?


I've seen that error a while ago when blocking JavaScript on sites 
protected by Akamai.  Having said that, I'm not seeing any problem 
with http://www.carmax.com/, even though I have NoScript blocking 
scripts, so perhaps it's something else in this case - but probably 
worth checking anyway.
* Make sure you have JavaScript enabled (Edit > Preferences > Advanced 
> Scripts & Plugins)
* Disable any extensions which block JavaScript (NoScript, uMatrix, 
uBlock, etc.); if it works with them disabled, you'll need to work out 
which domains to allow scripts for before re-enabling the extensions
* Delete any cookies for carmax.com (Tools > Data Manager, enter 
"carmax.com" in "Search Domains", and delete any cookies); it seems 
having got the error, something gets set in a cookie so it continues 
to fail even after enabling JavaScript





  * Make sure you have JavaScript enabled (Edit > Preferences > Advanced 
  Scripts & Plugins)


Yes, JavaScript is enabled and has been from the beginning.

  * Disable any extensions which block JavaScript (NoScript, uMatrix, 
uBlock, etc.); if it works with them disabled, you'll need to work out 
which domains to allow scripts for before re-enabling the extensions


AdBlock Plus is Disabled for CarMax.com

  * Delete any cookies for carmax.com (Tools > Data Manager, enter
"carmax.com" in "Search Domains", and delete any cookies); it seems
having got the error, something gets set in a cookie so it continues to
fail even after enabling JavaScript

All cookies have been deleted several different times.

One more thing to mention is than I can get to the main CarMax.com web 
site without error it is when in type anything in the search line and 
then click search that I get the error.


One again thank you for you help!



I can't get this to fail.  I go to carmax.com, type "chev" in the search 
line and get lots of Chevrolets listed when I either click Enter, click 
the Search icon or select "Chevrolet" from the drop down list.Ublock 
Origin turned on.

Wild guesses: are you logged into Microsoft or Google account? Log out.
Disable your PC security software.

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Re: Access Denied - CarMax.com

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 7/29/2020 8:34 AM, Danny Kile wrote:

Going to carmax.com I get the following error:

Access Denied
You don't have permission to access "http://www.carmax.com/"; on this 
server.


Reference #18.2d891ab8.1596029342.1765be0e

I works just fine with Chrome.

What is my solution? Thank you!


Works for me.
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.53.3


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Re: vertical size of "add security exception " pop up form too large

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On 7/25/2020 11:07 AM, AndrésH wrote:
I'm using Kaspesky antivirus that that intercepts https and creates a 
server certificate with its own root authority .


Seamonkey constantly triggers the "add security exception" form with a 
bigger vertical size that doesn't fit in my monitor whatever size 
(pixels)  I select.


How can I resolve that problem, apart from create a new profile or 
disable the feature of Kaspesk?


Thanks

In Spanish :

Utilizo el antivirus de Kaspesky que tiene la funcionalidad de analizar 
las conexiones https , pero luego pasa al navegador los datos de los 
servidores con un certificado propio generado con el certificado de 
autoridad creado por ellos.


Eso conlleva que tiene continuamente  aparece "añadir excepción de 
seguridad", pero en esta versión por los visto el cálculo de la 
dimensiones falla y se desborda por arriba y por abajo. Como me conozco 
el orden de los elementos del formulario , navego con el teclado aunque 
no vea los botones.


¿ Existe una manera de corregir el problema que no sea crear un nuevo 
perfil o desactivar esa función de Kaspesky ?


How to turn off the Kaspersky security exception warnings in SeaMonkey:
1. Open Edit -> Preferences -> Privacy & Security -> Certificates
2. Open Manage Certificates
3. Select the Authorities tab, click Import...
4. Navigate to the location of the Kaspersky certificate. On my system 
this is at C:/ProgramData/Kaspersky Lab/AVP20.0/Data/Cert/

5. Select the CERT file there and click Open
6. Once installed restart SeaMonkey

You may need to repeat after any major update to the Kaspersky code base 
(not the daily database updates).


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Re: US BANK HAS STOPPED SUPPORTING MY BROWSER

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 7/22/2020 2:42 PM, David E. Ross wrote:



My second thought, however, involves you keeping your US Bank account.

1.  In SeaMonkey, enter about:config in the URI area (address bar),
dismissing any warning popup.

2.  Right-click anywhere on the list of preference variables and select
[New > String] from the pull-down context menu.

3.  In the "New string value" dialogue, enter
general.useragent.override.usbank.com
and then select the OK button.

4.  In the "Enter string value" dialogue, enter
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:75.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/75.0
all as a single line (Pardon the line wrap above.) and then select the
OK button.

NOTE:  In step #4, you might enter a different user agent (UA) string if
you know of a more recent one for Firefox or one for a Mac instead of
this one, which is for Windows.



I found the useragent override was not sufficient for accessing Chase 
Bank, probably because they cycle the authorization info through some 
unseen non-Chase domain. The site does work when I use the "User Agent 
Switcher" extension, which displays the same bogus Firefox UA to every site.


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Re: Banking sites do not display entire page

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 6/27/2020 3:33 PM, AK wrote:

On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 2:38:13 PM UTC-5, David E. Ross wrote:

On 6/27/2020 9:59 AM, AK wrote:

On 2 different banking sites, the whole page is not displayed using Seamonkey.

Same with Firefox.

I have some screenshots as you can only see it after logging in.

I have to hit F11 to see everything.

Is that common?

Is it fixable?

Andy



One of my credit unions (I belong to two) has a navigation bar along the
left edge of every page.  The Logoff link is at the bottom.  The
navigation bar is NOT scrollable.  I cannot see the Logoff link even if
I maximize the SeaMonkey winodw.  Thus, to log off, I must use F11.
Even then, I have to collapse any of the navigation items I have expanded.

Also, I have to enable third-party cookies to see my monthly statements.

I call this design "user hostile".

--
David E. Ross


Trump claims he is the "law and order" President.  Then, he
breaks the law by using copyrighted music at his rallies
without permission from the copyright owners.


I tried the 2 sites using Chrome and they both work fine.

But I do not care for Chrome.

Andy



Both sites look the same here in Chrome and SeaMonkey, nothing seems to 
be missing.
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.2

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Re: Home Depot videos don't play

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 5/25/2020 6:49 PM, flyguy wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 5/25/2020 1:36 PM:

flyguy wrote:

Windows 10, SM 2.49.4

The videos on this Home Depot page do not play for me, but they do 
play if I use Chrome. What's wrong?


 > What's wrong?

For starters: 2.49.4. Try with 2.53.2.


Oops. Forgot to show the link:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI-ONE-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Electric-Cordless-String-Trimmer-and-Edger-1-3-Ah-Battery-and-Charger-Included-P2030/203645932 



Can you try it with 2.49.4 and 2.53.2? I'm concerned it might be a 
problem with SM setup and not the version.


That page shows about seven pages of errors of the type:

Timestamp: 5/25/2020, 8:24:59 PM
Error: UnknownError
Source File: 
https://lpcdn.lpsnmedia.net/le_secure_storage/3.10.0.1-release_5033/storage.secure.min.js?loc=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.homedepot.com&site=31564604&force=1&env=prod

Line: 1

That said, the videos do play in Chrome and Firefox.

SM 2.53.2.

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Re: Save Frequency

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 5/19/2020 1:04 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

If SeaMonkey terminates unexpectedly and I relaunch, I get the option to
restore my failed session.  I notice that the restored session might not
be quite what it was when SeaMonkey terminated.

Is there a preference variable that indicates how fequent SeaMonkey's
state is saved for a subsequent restore?



browser.sessionstore.interval would be the first place I'd try.

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Re: How to set Seamonkey as the default e-mail app/tool/client in Windows 10

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On 4/8/2020 6:55 AM, d.e@mail.pcom.de wrote:

In the versions previous to 2.3.5.1 it was possible to choose and set Seamonkey 
as the default e-mail app/tool/client in Windows 10. But when opening the 
default apps settings in Windows Seamonkey mail is not available anymore.

Is there any workaround?

RB



On my Windows 10 system Seamonkey is listed as an option for default 
mail app, along with Mail, Windows Live Mail, Google Chrome(??) and 
"Look for an app in the Microsoft Store".  No workaround needed.


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Re: Errors with YouTube

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 4/6/2020 10:27 AM, viliam.ku...@gmail.com wrote:

On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 5:50:42 AM UTC+2, Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 4/1/2020 1:18 PM:

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 2:56:56 PM UTC-4, EE wrote:

I've been unable to post replies or comments for around four days using 
Seamonkey 2.53.1. I also can't like videos. The left sidebar that shows 
subscriptions and other things comes and goes.  In looking around the youtube 
website on what are probably less frequently frequented pages other things work 
and then don't too.

However, I seem to be able to post etc using Firefox 74.0.

Is this perhaps a UA issue?



Does Youtube work better if you access it with
https://www.youtube.com/?disable_polymer=1

Lem Johnson


Yes because it gives you the old layout



https://hub.packtpub.com/youtubes-polymer-redesign-doesnt-like-firefox-and-edge-browsers/
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Re: Errors with YouTube

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On 4/1/2020 1:18 PM, qbr...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 2:56:56 PM UTC-4, EE wrote:

I've been unable to post replies or comments for around four days using 
Seamonkey 2.53.1. I also can't like videos. The left sidebar that shows 
subscriptions and other things comes and goes.  In looking around the youtube 
website on what are probably less frequently frequented pages other things work 
and then don't too.

However, I seem to be able to post etc using Firefox 74.0.

Is this perhaps a UA issue?



Does Youtube work better if you access it with
https://www.youtube.com/?disable_polymer=1

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Re: Still Can't Get Fox News

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 3/11/2020 12:55 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/10/2020 7:38 PM, Larry S. wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/10/2020 12:06 PM, Larry S. wrote:

Still get the message "You don't have permission to access Fox News on
this server". Any thoughts on what to do now?

I tried changing cookies to "Session Only", didn't work. I tried
changing my UA string to read Firefox 72.0.1, didn't work.

Any other thoughts?
Larry



Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.5
"Advertise Firefox compatibility" disabled
Cookies for the requested Web site only
Popups blocked
All images enabled
"When a web page provides its own colors and background" set to "Always
use the colors and background specified by the web page."
"Allow documents to use other fonts" enabled
HTML5 Media enabled

No problem viewing Fox News at  (other than my
dislike of Fox politics).


I pretty much track with your choices, except how do I set "HTML5 Media
enabled"?

Seem as though I should have no problem with my access, but I do. Hmm ..

Larry



In your preferences, set media.autoplay.enabled to True.



I hate to muddy the waters but I have media.autoplay.enabled set to 
False and Fox News works for me.


Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.1

Not logged into the Foxnews site
Windows 10 Pro (x64)
Allow all cookies
Accept cookies normally
Load all images
Do not block unrequested popup windows
All TLS options checked
All scripts allowed except hiding the status bar

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Re: SM report as FF?

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 12/19/2019 11:57 AM, Ray Davison wrote:
Is there a cookbook for how to get SM to pretend it is FF.  B of A 
complains and Chase blocks SM.


TY
Ray


Enter "about:config" in the SM address bar. Create a new name/value:
name: general.useragent.override.chase.com
value: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:71.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/71.0


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Re: another one bites the dust - when will the successor to 2.49.5 be released?

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On 11/11/2019 9:09 AM, David H. Durgee wrote:

Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 9/26/2019 12:00 PM, David H. Durgee wrote:


What specifically works for you on the Chase.com website?  I can logon
to their website with UA of Firefox 52, which is what 2.49.5 derives
from, but using the default UA loops.  I can logon with later Firefox UA
settings up to and including the current 69 release, but NONE of these
have a WORKING download transactions button in my credit card accounts.
The print button next to the download button DOES WORK, it is only the
download button that will not work.

Do you have any credit cards with them?  If so, can you confirm for me
that your download button works?  If you only have deposit accounts, do
they have a download button you can try?

Dave



Hmm.  Never tried that before, let's see.
For the credit card account, clicking on any of the four icons results
in the same warning in the Error Console:

Timestamp: 9/26/2019 2:25:18 PM
Warning: TypeError: setting a property that has only a getter
Source File:
https://static.chasecdn.com/web/hash/blue-ui/dist/blue-ui/js/main_6a8ccb8c7b9beebb24453df61d9e6b8c.js

Line: 1

but the first three all work, download does not.

And... for the deposit account the results are the same, including the
Javascript warning.

Lem Johnson


You might want to try this again now.  For some reason I did this
morning and find that the download icon now works for me here.  It would
seem that Chase finally noticed the problem and corrected it.

Dave



Yep.  Someone must have kicked the anthill...

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Re: Sites Ask To Upgrade Browser

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 11/5/2019 5:04 AM, Thomas Pamin wrote:
I'm getting a lot more messages on web sites than I used to to upgrade 
my browser. My general.useragent.override string is: Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:59.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/59.0


Can I change this so I get less nags to upgrade?


Firefox is now at 70, there's no point in advertising any version older 
than that.


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Re: another one bites the dust - when will the successor to 2.49.5 be released?

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 9/26/2019 12:00 PM, David H. Durgee wrote:


What specifically works for you on the Chase.com website?  I can logon
to their website with UA of Firefox 52, which is what 2.49.5 derives
from, but using the default UA loops.  I can logon with later Firefox UA
settings up to and including the current 69 release, but NONE of these
have a WORKING download transactions button in my credit card accounts.
The print button next to the download button DOES WORK, it is only the
download button that will not work.

Do you have any credit cards with them?  If so, can you confirm for me
that your download button works?  If you only have deposit accounts, do
they have a download button you can try?

Dave



Hmm.  Never tried that before, let's see.
For the credit card account, clicking on any of the four icons results 
in the same warning in the Error Console:


Timestamp: 9/26/2019 2:25:18 PM
Warning: TypeError: setting a property that has only a getter
Source File: 
https://static.chasecdn.com/web/hash/blue-ui/dist/blue-ui/js/main_6a8ccb8c7b9beebb24453df61d9e6b8c.js

Line: 1

but the first three all work, download does not.

And... for the deposit account the results are the same, including the 
Javascript warning.


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Re: another one bites the dust - when will the successor to 2.49.5 be released?

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 9/25/2019 10:37 AM, David H. Durgee wrote:

As of 23 September the Chase website no longer works properly with
2.49.5 here.  I find it is impossible to download transactions from a
credit card account, the button to do so no longer works.

I complained to Chase about it, but was told simply to use a newer
browser with their website.

This appears to definitely use features only available in a later
Firefox release, as spoofing a current Firefox does not solve the
problem.  In fact using the default UA causes the website fits where it
loops while loading without end, so I have to spoof Firefox 52 ESR to
get it to load at all.

This is the second website that is unusable with 2.49.5 that I need
access to.  I hope that its successor will no be long in coming so that
I can get back to using a single browser for those website I need to use.

Dave



Chase.com works for me (checked it just now) with:
general.useragent.override.chase.com
set to:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/68.0


They are pretty aggressive about requiring spoofing one of the most 
recent 2 or 3 levels of Firefox (I recently had to change to "68" from 
"61").


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Re: How to find where a specific bookmark is in my SM's Bookmark Manager?

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 9/24/2019 10:53 AM, Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:

On 23/09/19 22:52, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2019-09-23 4:33 p.m., Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:

On 23/09/19 18:52, Chris Ilias wrote:

...>
In those cases, you can go back to the bookmark you clicked on, and 
edit the bookmark URL, then repeat the steps above.


But as I noted in my post above of 22/09/19 23:15, this still

a)    doesn't actually work now, and

b)    couldn't work in general since the mapping URL -> bookmark can 
be undefined (bookmark (n)-->(1) URL).


Here's a video of me testing it just now: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku146eK_wS0


Maybe we're referring to different things?


Unfortunately not, and many thanks for going to the effort of snapping 
the video.


Obviously there's some difference in our configurations because when I 
do a similar test the bookmarked URL gets added to the built-in "Other 
Bookmarks" folder and that folder is highlighted.


My bookmark folder hierarchy is like that shown in the folder pane of 
your Bookmarks Manager window:


 Tags
 All Bookmarks
     >Bookmarks Toolbar
     >Bookmarks Menu
 Other Bookmarks

Ignoring for the moment why this behaviour is different for me, it 
illustrates the general problem that, if the bookmark hierarchy includes 
different bookmarks for the same URL, the address bar bookmark editor 
can only identify one of them.


The Parent Folder extension (discussed in the thread above) works within 
the Bookmarks Manager and so can (and does) show the immediate parent in 
a column of the bookmark search results.


/df



It's a bit of a pain but Chris' method works for me.
For example, I have an Ally Bank (http://www.ally.com) bookmark in my 
Financial folder.
If I click on the bookmark I'm redirected to https://www.ally.com and 
the default action for the bookmark icon in the location bar is Add 
Bookmark.
If I edit the properties of the bookmark and change the URL to https... 
then click it the bookmark icon (now with a green-ish background) opens 
the Edit Bookmark dialog.

True, the Edit dialog will apply only to the bookmark clicked.

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Re: How to find where a specific bookmark is in my SM's Bookmark Manager?

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 9/22/2019 8:44 AM, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2019-09-21 4:19 p.m., Ant wrote:
I have so many bookmarks (since Netscape days (yep, I'm old!)) that I 
have to organize them into folders. I know my bookmarks exist when I 
do searches, but the found bookmarks doesn't tell me where they are in 
the manager. Is there a way to know where exactly my bookmarks are in 
its manager (e.g., which folders?)?


1. Go to the bookmarked page.
2. Click on the bookmark icon in the location bar. Beside "Folder", it 
should tell you the name of the folder the bookmark resides in.
3. If you don't know where that folder is located, click on the down 
arrow beside it, which will open the folder tree.




The problem with this approach is that if the bookmarked URL now 
redirects to a different location (or even replaces 'http' with https') 
the bookmark icon just creates a new bookmark instead of opening the 
Edit Bookmark dialog.


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Re: MLB standings -- just me?

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 9/20/2019 11:48 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
Third attempt, this time without the screenshot, which seems to get my 
message blocked.


The last few days, when I try to view the standings, I get a basic 
heading and nothing more. Is it just me?




Screenshot NOT attached.

No problem with IE 11.



Yep, it's broken.  Works in Chrome and FF 69, but not in SeaMonkey Safe 
mode or with a FF 69 useragent override.


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Re: Create IE Bookmark for Seamonkey?

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 9/15/2019 5:36 AM, Thomas Pamin wrote:
There is a weather site that doesn't work in SM (actually none of the 
Accuweather radar sites work in SM). It does work in IE, so I'm trying 
to create a bookmark for SM that will open in IE. Maybe it's not 
possible, but any suggestions?


https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/national/weather-radar


WFM even with uBlock Origin active.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.5


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Re: 2.49.5: Blurry fonts on Mail/Newsgroups Page

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On 9/5/2019 7:55 AM, William Greenwood wrote:
Compared to 2.49.4, fonts displaying email and newsgroup accounts are 
noticeably blurrier in 2.49.5 as are message lists.


Everything here appears the same as before the upgrade.  Windows 7. 
Maybe your graphics drivers need an update?


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Re: Link to Firefox browser side?

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On 5/28/2019 6:23 AM, chokito wrote:

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 9:13:37 AM UTC+2, Jonathan Wilson wrote:

My guess is that Netflix wont play back content on SeaMonkey regardless of
the user agent since SeaMonkey doesn't support the DRM plugins that Firefox
(and other browsers do).


Use 'general.useragent.override.netflix.com' with 'Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; 
rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0' works for me with Silverligt and latest 
SM 2.49.5.



My banking site won't work using that old a value for the Firefox 
version in the override.  It does work with:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:66.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/66.0


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Re: prefs- files in profiles SM 2.49.4 in W10 Pro

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On 2/21/2019 8:51 PM, bo1953 wrote:

Hello all as a follow up on my previous post and still current issue.

I find that there are 222 of these files in my profile now.

Is this normal, not sure?

If not, how to change/repair/delete?

I also have an abundance of sesionstores 44 and virtual folders 33...

TIA - bo1953

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I was getting four or five 16MB sessionstore-n.json files created every 
week until I disabled Kaspersky security suite protection of files 
sessionstore.json and sessionstore.bak.  Windows 7.


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Re: Columns mixed up in transmitting e-mails

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On 1/26/2019 9:29 PM, Mort Linder wrote:

Hi,

I am running Windows 7, with SeaMonkey IMAP e-mail.

When I carefully type and send an e-mail, with some important data in 
columns, the received message has the columns all mixed up, so that the 
data are often illegible. This just happened again when I was trying to 
make dates with a pretty girl pianist to go to classical music concerts 
with me.


What can I do to have the e-mail received in exactly the same format as 
when I send it?


Thanks.

Mort Linder

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Make sure you're composing in HTML.  When you get to the place where you 
want the formatted text select Insert -> Table from the top menu. 
Adjust table parameters as desired.  Enter text.


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Re: Sending one html mail

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On 1/10/2019 12:30 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
I normally send plain text mails but occasionally feel the need to send 
a mail in html format, normally because I need the html formatting for 
that one mail.
The only way I can think of to do this is to set the recipient as 
"Prefers to receive messages formatted as HTML" in the address-book, 
reverting to "Unknown" or "Plain Text" after the mail has been sent.


Is there another way?  I have not found one.



Hold down the Shift key when you click on the "Compose" icon in the tool 
bar?


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Re: WEB site work with Chrome only... why???

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On 12/26/2018 8:19 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 12/26/18 8:43 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/26/2018 4:54 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 12/26/18 12:07 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 26-12-18 15:25:

On 12/26/18 4:58 AM, Daniel wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 26/12/2018 8:57 AM:

On 12/25/18 1:53 PM, Danny Kile wrote:

The following website will not work with SM or Internet Explorer. I
had to load Chrome to get it to work. When typing inn the search
bar with SM it does not show the charters that you type just
spaces. However, if you type in "badge" and then click the
magnifier glass it will search. Now in IE you can not even type
into the search filed at all. In Chrome everything work as you
would expect.

Anyone know why this is the case?

Thank you for you assistance.


https://bluemail.help/search/?badge?lang=en


Don't know why. Well...

But if I start typing in the search field I get a drop-down with
some results I could select.

SeaMonkey also doesn't show the "How can we help you?" text I see
using Firefox 64.0. I also see what I type into the search field
using that browser.


Walt, could it be that FF has access to required font ... one that SM
doesn't have access to??

I'm just seeing a blank search bar ... but the cursor is progressing
across the search bar as I type!! Even if I type the first topic in
the provided list "Displaying an Unread Badge on Android "!



Why wouldn't SeaMonkey have access to the font if my Firefox does.
Font packages are installed on the computers hard drive. No?


The problem is here ...

style="width:50%;margin:5px auto 0 auto;background:none;color:white"
Text in white with background in white. Have you see the horrible page
source text ? :-)



Why doesn't the text render white in Firefox, and yes I did see the page
source.



Perhaps Chrome is more tolerant (when it should not) of invalid CSS.
There are 29 CSS errors in the HTML file and 220 CSS warnings in its
related CSS file.



I wouldn't know about Chrome. Not installed here.

The site works in Firefox Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; 
rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/64.0.




The font is not white, it's a medium gray, you just can't see the text 
in SM.  The CSS defines the input field height as about 2.25 units, but 
the padding plus text that has to fit inside is over four units high.


FF and SM for some reason have different behaviors in this situation: I 
suspect FF (and others) first displays the text then attempts to 
implement the padding. SM probably applies the padding first and then 
there is no room to display the text.


Use the Developer Tools window to remove the padding and SM displays the 
entered text.


The answer is still Bad CSS.

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Re: SeaMonkey v.2.49.4 and Kaspersky Internet Security 2019

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On 12/21/2018 10:36 PM, Henrik37 wrote:
When my license for Kaspersky Internet Security (KIS) recently expired, 
I installed KIS 2019.  As many SM users already know, there has been 
some incompatibility between SM and KIS for several years - mostly (in 
my experience) involving security certificate data bases.  My solution 
to this problem has been to retain the current KIS license but revert to 
KIS 2015.


In trying to make KIS 2019 work, I queried Kaspersky Support.  They sent 
me instructions for inserting a KIS 19 certificate into FireFox (FF). 
These instructions don't seem very useful as SM and FF have become quite 
different - as I understand it.


Has anyone else had this SM/KIS security certificate incompatibility 
problem?  How was the problem solved?


Alternatively, would it be worth my trying to replace the security 
certificate file in SM v.2.49.4 with the KIS 2019 security certificate 
file?  If so, where is the SM 2.49.4 security certificate file located?


I see a 'cert8.db' entry in the 'Mozilla' folder that has the same date 
as when I installed KIS 2019.  If it sounds like I am pretty much 
confused, I am.  I am 81 years old and haven't been up-to-date on 
software construction in years and didn't know all that much to start with.


All help will be useful and much appreciated.


Edit -> Preferences -> Privacy & Security -> Certificates
Manage Certificates, Authorities tab
Import
Browse to the location of the Kaspersky certificate, here it's:
C:\ProgramData\Kaspersky Lab\AVP19.0.0\Data\Cert\1.cert
Click Open


Lem Johnson


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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 9/24/2018 3:13 PM, twbartender wrote:

I'm also having problems with google.com. Specifically the google search function 
using both Seamonkey version 2.49.3 & the latest version, 2.49.4. When trying 
to type anything in the Google Search Box, it only uses the upper left corner of 
the box, and when you get to 19 characters, the beginning of what was typed becomes 
hidden if what you are trying to ask is longer than the 19 characters. If you copy 
and paste something into the box, only the last 19 characters are visible.

On 9/11/18 I posted my problem on the Google Search Help Forum, found here: 
https://groups.google.com/a/googleproductforums.com/d/msgid/websearch/e4a0cbeb-a533-4b62-b714-fab0ef77e111%40googleproductforums.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer

On 9/16/18 I replied to my own post with an answer to the problem I found by doing more 
digging. It seems that unchecking the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" option 
found in the Seamonkey preferences allows the search box to function as it should: The 
original link to the answer can be found here:
https://productforums.google.com/d/msg/websearch/w6JUJvS5nMw/6QzWOLY_CQAJ

At first all seemed to function as it should until I realized that the actual search page looks different when the 
"Advertise Firefox compatibility" option is unchecked compared to when it's checked. I also found that the 
search settings cannot be changed when the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" option is unchecked. A much 
greater issue I discovered was the fact that when searching for photos with the "Advertise Firefox 
compatibility" option is unchecked, the results page not only shows a page of photos, it also includes a 4 to 5 
line description under each of 20 photos returned from the search. I attempted to find an option to turn off the photo 
descriptions, but the option doesn't exist. The only way to remove the photo descriptions is to re-check the 
"Advertise Firefox compatibility" option. By re-checking the option none of the photos include a description 
under them. Also the search settings functions now works as they should.

This is becoming very frustrating and a real pain in the butt... From what I've learned 
the problem most likely is directly related to the Seamonkey User Agent, but I've been 
unable figure out how to create a user agent string that functions correctly with Google 
Search. With the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" option unchecked seamonkey 
reports my user agent as: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.4 When the option is checked, the user agent is: User 
agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49.4



To their credit, I guess, Google programmers made the effort to write 
special CSS code used for just for Gecko-based, non-Firefox browsers. 
Unfortunately they botched the job as shown by the search entry box problem.


I fixed the problem with about 25 lines of .css code in my 
userContent.css file, but that was going to break again as soon as they 
changed something.  So I removed all that and just added an override in 
about:config:


general.useragent.override.google.com:  Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; 
Win64; x64; rv:61.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/61.0


Fixed.  I've already had to add overrides for Chase, Yahoo and the post 
office, at this point what's one more?


Lem Johnson
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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 9/4/2018 11:31 PM, Ant wrote:

On 9/4/2018 9:27 PM, Ant wrote:

On 9/2/2018 10:15 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/2/2018 10:07 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote:

Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was displaced
to the top of the search box instead of being centered, and as I typed
in a search some of the words would spill over to a second line in the
search box. This happened only with SM, and it happened on every
computer I tried it on.

Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back 
again. I

haven't seen this on any other website.

Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? 
Any

ideas on how to eliminate it? Thanks!

John



Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.4

I do not have this problem.


Is that your SM's UA? If so, then how come not its default "User 
agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4)"?


I reported this in 
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/websearch/7ED-qV__XCc;context-place=forum/websearch. 
I don't know if that will work. Is there an official way to do it? Does 
anyone have official connections to their web site search team? ;)


To their credit, the Google programmers made the effort to generate 
specific code for the search results page that they serve to SeaMonkey 
and (probably) other Gecko-based browsers that aren't FireFox. 
Unfortunately they botched the job, using, for example, one CSS 
directive ("moz-flex-wrap") that never existed and breaks the input 
field layout.


They should just forget the browser-specific moz-box code since all 
Gecko browsers have supported the "flex" box model for years.


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Re: Blocking/Allowing Cookies

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 8/8/2018 7:32 PM, xxyyz wrote:

On 2018-08-08 2:10 PM, Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 8/7/2018 12:00 PM, xxyyz wrote:

On 2018-08-04 2:32 PM, David E. Ross wrote:



Thank you for the response - but I'm asking a very basic question:
Does allowing cookies from a specific site allow cookies from 
"subsidiary" sites?  Same question when blocking cookies.


It depends on how the cookie is created.  From 
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Set-Cookie:


Domain= Optional
 Specifies those hosts to which the cookie will be sent. If not 
specified, defaults to the host portion of the current document 
location (but not including subdomains). Contrary to earlier 
specifications, leading dots in domain names are ignored. If a domain 
is specified, subdomains are always included.


If you allow cookies from yyy.zzz and a cookie is created without the 
optional "Domain" parameter cookies from xxx.yyy.zzz are not allowed. 
They ARE allowed if the Domain is specified.


Lem Johnson

Thank you.  I think I understand this.

Another question (sort of the previous one in reverse):
If I block all cookies and allow cookies from https://aaa.xxx.yyy,
are cookies from https://xxx.yyy allowed?  I assumed not, but I've
seen several cases where Cookie Manager lists cookies from the
latter.  Does this also depend on whether or not the Domain is
specified in the cookie?



A useful tool for evaluating the options:
https://scripts.cmbuckley.co.uk/cookies.php

Lem Johnson
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Re: Blocking/Allowing Cookies

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 8/7/2018 12:00 PM, xxyyz wrote:

On 2018-08-04 2:32 PM, David E. Ross wrote:



Thank you for the response - but I'm asking a very basic question:
Does allowing cookies from a specific site allow cookies from 
"subsidiary" sites?  Same question when blocking cookies.


It depends on how the cookie is created.  From 
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Set-Cookie:


Domain= Optional
Specifies those hosts to which the cookie will be sent. If not 
specified, defaults to the host portion of the current document location 
(but not including subdomains). Contrary to earlier specifications, 
leading dots in domain names are ignored. If a domain is specified, 
subdomains are always included.


If you allow cookies from yyy.zzz and a cookie is created without the 
optional "Domain" parameter cookies from xxx.yyy.zzz are not allowed. 
They ARE allowed if the Domain is specified.


Lem Johnson
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