Re: Transfer mail from old account to new

[OldTimer]

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 11/1/2010 22:12, OldTimer told the world:

OldTimer wrote:
But now I'm still left with the two questions:

1) I understand I originally disabled the compatibility check.  How can
I be sure it has been enabled and if it hasn't, how can I enable it in
the light of my comments in my previous message?


Just open the Add-On list. If compatibility is still disabled, you will
see a warning and a button to re-enable it.



2) Do you think any of this has anything to do with SM "compose"
freezing?  If not, I'll start another thread for this problem.


I'm unaware of any connection, but then, I don't use the Composer. But
you may try disabling Folderpane Tools now that you set things the way
you like -- no, the account order will *not* revert to the way it was
before.



I updated SM to 2.0.2 and everything is now working.
Thanks for all your help.  This has been a blast and I've learned a 
little more about SM in the process.


Thanks, again
Ed


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Re: Transfer mail from old account to new

[OldTimer]

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 11/1/2010 22:12, OldTimer told the world:

OldTimer wrote:
But now I'm still left with the two questions:

1) I understand I originally disabled the compatibility check.  How can
I be sure it has been enabled and if it hasn't, how can I enable it in
the light of my comments in my previous message?


Just open the Add-On list. If compatibility is still disabled, you will
see a warning and a button to re-enable it.



2) Do you think any of this has anything to do with SM "compose"
freezing?  If not, I'll start another thread for this problem.


I'm unaware of any connection, but then, I don't use the Composer. But
you may try disabling Folderpane Tools now that you set things the way
you like -- no, the account order will *not* revert to the way it was
before.



I guess I'm o.k. regarding the compatibility check - I didn't get any 
warning when I opened the extensions list in Add-On Manager.


Sorry if I wasn't clear about SM - I was referring to using the 
"compose" button which opens up a blank e-mail for sending a message.  I 
didn't mean using "Composer".
When I try to send an e-mail message, everything freezes.  I find 
however that I can send a message if it's a "Reply".


Disabling Folderpane Tools didn't make any difference.

Ed
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Re: Transfer mail from old account to new

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OldTimer wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 9/1/2010 18:57, OldTimer told the world:


The install instruction at the download site (www.chuonthis.com)stated
to save the file to [SeaMonkey] but I don't know which file to use.

1) c:\Documents& Settings\sony\Application Data\Mozilla\Seamonkey ?
(There's also an "extension" subfolder in Mozilla).

2) c:\program Files\Mozilla.org\SeaMonkey ?

For the time being I've placed the download file (folderpane.xpi) on my
desktop.

The install instructions are to open Tools and select "Extensions" and
click Install button. The Tools menu in either SM folder (above)
doesn't have "Extensions, but does have "Add-on Manager". However when
I click on "Add-on Manager" there's no folderpane extension listed.

And I thought I was doing so well getting it downloaded to my PC.
Can you take me through the next steps?


Oh, you are almost there. You already have the folderpane.xpi file, and
you already know where the Add-On Manager is.
Now:
- Open the Add-On Manager.
- Click on the second icon (Extensions) -- the one that looks like a
green jigsaw puzzle piece.
- Click on the "Install" button on the lower left.
- Select the folderpane.xpi file from where you saved it (apparently
your desktop) and open it.

There you go!



The folderpane.xpi fanished from my desktop and there's no sign of it
when I Search. So I downloaded it again.

When I attempted to "Install" it in the "Add-On Manager" I got the
message: "Incompatible Extension: Folderpane Tools will not be installed
because it does not provide secure updates."

I decided to try the "easier" way and so I deleted folderpane.xpi and as
per instructions at Dotnetwizard.net "to turn compatibility checking
back on ...by going into 'about.config' and type
'extensions.checkCompatibility' into the search bar at top of list ..
when your entry comes up, right click on it and select 'Toggle'from the
context menu."

1st problem: I don't have a search bar at the top of the list - There's
a "Filter" bar. So I scrolled down to locate
"extensions.checkCompatibility"

2nd problem: There's no listing for "extensions.checkCompatibility"??
Does this mean I've done something serious? (could this have anything to
do with SM freezing in "Compose" after first letter of an address is
entered?)

Where to now?

Ed


Well, I went ahead and tried the "easier" way - (thanks to MCBastos & 
Philip), and my accounts are arranged in the order I want and I've also 
set a different account as default.  You can't know how much your help 
has been appreciated.


But now I'm still left with the two questions:

1) I understand I originally disabled the compatibility check.  How can 
I be sure it has been enabled and if it hasn't, how can I enable it in 
the light of my comments in my previous message?


2) Do you think any of this has anything to do with SM "compose" 
freezing?  If not, I'll start another thread for this problem.


Thanks,
Ed
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Re: Transfer mail from old account to new

[OldTimer]

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 9/1/2010 18:57, OldTimer told the world:


The install instruction at the download site (www.chuonthis.com)stated
to save the file to [SeaMonkey] but I don't know which file to use.

1) c:\Documents&  Settings\sony\Application Data\Mozilla\Seamonkey ?
(There's also an "extension" subfolder in Mozilla).

2) c:\program Files\Mozilla.org\SeaMonkey ?

For the time being I've placed the download file (folderpane.xpi) on my
desktop.

The install instructions are to open Tools and select "Extensions" and
click Install button.  The Tools menu in either SM folder (above)
doesn't have "Extensions, but does have "Add-on Manager".  However when
I click on "Add-on Manager" there's no folderpane extension listed.

And I thought I was doing so well getting it downloaded to my PC.
Can you take me through the next steps?


Oh, you are almost there. You already have the folderpane.xpi file, and
you already know where the Add-On Manager is.
Now:
- Open the Add-On Manager.
- Click on the second icon (Extensions) -- the one that looks like a
green jigsaw puzzle piece.
- Click on the "Install" button on the lower left.
- Select the folderpane.xpi file from where you saved it (apparently
your desktop) and open it.

There you go!



The folderpane.xpi fanished from my desktop and there's no sign of it 
when I Search.  So I downloaded it again.


When I attempted to "Install" it in the "Add-On Manager" I got the 
message:  "Incompatible Extension:  Folderpane Tools will not be 
installed because it does not provide secure updates."


I decided to try the "easier" way and so I deleted folderpane.xpi and as 
per instructions at Dotnetwizard.net "to turn compatibility checking 
back on ...by going into 'about.config' and type 
'extensions.checkCompatibility' into the search bar at top of list .. 
when your entry comes up, right click  on it and select 'Toggle'from the 
context menu."


1st problem: I don't have a search bar at the top of the list - There's 
a "Filter" bar.  So I scrolled down to locate 
"extensions.checkCompatibility"


2nd problem:  There's no listing for "extensions.checkCompatibility"??
Does this mean I've done something serious?  (could this have anything 
to do with SM freezing in "Compose" after first letter of an address is 
entered?)


Where to now?

Ed
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Re: Transfer mail from old account to new

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MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 7/1/2010 21:47, OldTimer told the world:

When I was typing the question I wondered whether it was clear enough.
So, here's what happens:  When I click on the SM icon on the desktop it
opens with the old account first and I have to scroll down to my other
accounts to click on "Get Msgs" (it's quite a scroll as I've got lots of
subfolders listed). I'd rather not have to do this each time.

Now that I think about it, it seems obvious that the first account
listed in the left pane is the one that shows up first.  I like the
suggestion of re-arranging the order, but I don't think I could handle
any "hacking".  Perhaps there's an even easier way to do this?


Well, the bit of hacking I meant was to get around the version
compatibility checking. But actually, you only need to run this add-on
*once*, and it can later be disabled or removed. So, instead of a more
permanent workaround, you may just temporarily disable the compatibility
check.

So, going step by step:

1. Disable compatibility check. This page gives detailed instructions
(they are intended for Firefox, but they work the same in Seamonkey):
http://dotnetwizard.net/soft-apps/firefox-3-beta-4-disabling-extension-compatibility-check/
2. Install FolderPane Tools either from
http://www.chuonthis.com/extensions/folderpane.php
or from
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/258
3. After restarting Seamonkey, go to the Add-On Manager and click on the
"Options" button for Folderpane Tools. Use it to reorganize your
folders. Restart Seamonkey again
4. After you are happy with the way your mail windows looks, you may
disable/remove Folderpane Tools and reinstate compatibility checking (no
need to do all the stuff on step 1, the Add-On Manager will give a
one-click fix for this).


The install instruction at the download site (www.chuonthis.com)stated 
to save the file to [SeaMonkey] but I don't know which file to use.


1) c:\Documents & Settings\sony\Application Data\Mozilla\Seamonkey ? 
(There's also an "extension" subfolder in Mozilla).


2) c:\program Files\Mozilla.org\SeaMonkey ?

For the time being I've placed the download file (folderpane.xpi) on my 
desktop.


The install instructions are to open Tools and select "Extensions" and 
click Install button.  The Tools menu in either SM folder (above) 
doesn't have "Extensions, but does have "Add-on Manager".  However when 
I click on "Add-on Manager" there's no folderpane extension listed.


And I thought I was doing so well getting it downloaded to my PC.
Can you take me through the next steps?

Thanks,
Ed


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Re: Transfer mail from old account to new

[OldTimer]

When I was typing the question I wondered whether it was clear enough. 
So, here's what happens:  When I click on the SM icon on the desktop it 
opens with the old account first and I have to scroll down to my other 
accounts to click on "Get Msgs" (it's quite a scroll as I've got lots of 
subfolders listed). I'd rather not have to do this each time.


Now that I think about it, it seems obvious that the first account 
listed in the left pane is the one that shows up first.  I like the 
suggestion of re-arranging the order, but I don't think I could handle 
any "hacking".  Perhaps there's an even easier way to do this?


Thanks,
Ed

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 7/1/2010 14:17, OldTimer told the world:

Thanks, all good answers and offer me an easy way to deal with my
problem.  I will go with just leaving it be.  So, how do I stop SM from
opening the old account first when I open SM?


I'm not sure what you meant by that.

If you wish to change the way the accounts are ordered in the left pane
of the mail client, the easiest way I know of is by using the Folderpane
Tools add-on:
http://www.chuonthis.com/extensions/folderpane.php
Unfortunately, that needs a bit of hacking too, since it is a bit old
and does not list itself as compatible with Seamonkey 2. Not a unique
situation, but there are plenty of messages teaching how to work around
the version compatibility check...

If you want to stop Seamonkey from trying to contact the old account,
just open the account settings and clear all the "check email when..."
options.


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Re: Transfer mail from old account to new

[OldTimer]

Thanks, all good answers and offer me an easy way to deal with my 
problem.  I will go with just leaving it be.  So, how do I stop SM from 
opening the old account first when I open SM?


Thanks,
Ed

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 1/1/2010 17:21, OldTimer told the world:

I'm running SM 2.0.1 on Win XP SP2.  In the accounts panel on the left
side of the SM main screen, I have 2 accounts with many folders:   1)an
old account with an ISP I'm going to close (it's dial-up). and 2) a new
account (DSL) with some similar and some different folders from the old
account.

As mail senders began using my new address, I set up new folders.  I
don't have all the same folders and I don't have all the folders that
are in my old account and I have new ones that aren't in the old account.

I want to merge/transfer? all my old mail messages to my new account,
delete my old account and ensure that the address book is retained.

Is there an quick way to do this?  I discovered that I could drag mail
messages from the old account to the new - but this would be tedious
even if I could transfer whole folders (I'm haven't tried this yet).



Is the old account a POP account? If so, you don't really have to do
anything, you can keep the folder as they are right now -- just go to
the account settings and disable all the "check mail" options instead of
removing the account, so Seamonkey won't keep bothering you with error
messages.

If you really wish to move the message folders from one account to
another, you might try this:

1. Close Seamonkey (very important)
2. Locate your profile folder: in XP, it's probably
C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Application
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[random string].default\
3. You will find a "mail" subfolder and, within it, more subfolders
named after your mail&  news accounts.
4. Just move the files you will find within to the new place you wish
them to be, in the folder for your new DSL account. Some notes:
- You don't really have to move the small files with .msf extension;
Seamonkey will recreate them automatically the first time you open the
folder.
- File folders named.sbd hold the archives to the mail
folders contained within mail folder. For instance, if you
have a subfolder for  named, then you will find: a
file called inbox, a folder called inbox.sbd, and a file called oldstuff
inside the folder inbox.sbd.
- You can rename files. However, if they have a corresponding folder, be
careful to rename both the same way.
5. Open Seamonkey: the folders will be found in their new places.


If it's an IMAP account, though, you probably should create new folders
-- either in the "Local folders" pseudo-account or in a "phantom"
account -- and copy/move the messages there -- manually. It's a lot of a
work, sure. But IMAP stores the messages in your ISP's computer, and
Seamonkey keeps just a local cache to speed up access -- which may or
may not be complete.

The Seamonkey address book is global (not linked to individual
accounts), so you don't have to do anything.


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Transfer mail from old account to new

[OldTimer]

I'm running SM 2.0.1 on Win XP SP2.  In the accounts panel on the left 
side of the SM main screen, I have 2 accounts with many folders:   1)an 
old account with an ISP I'm going to close (it's dial-up). and 2) a new 
account (DSL) with some similar and some different folders from the old 
account.


As mail senders began using my new address, I set up new folders.  I 
don't have all the same folders and I don't have all the folders that 
are in my old account and I have new ones that aren't in the old account.


I want to merge/transfer? all my old mail messages to my new account, 
delete my old account and ensure that the address book is retained.


Is there an quick way to do this?  I discovered that I could drag mail 
messages from the old account to the new - but this would be tedious 
even if I could transfer whole folders (I'm haven't tried this yet).


Any suggestions?

Thanks,
An OldTimer trying to keep up.
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Re: Transferring From NS 4.5 (Win95) to SM 2.0 (XP)

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Leonidas Jones wrote:

OldTimer wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

OldTimer wrote:

OldTimer wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

OldTimer wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

OldTimer wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

OldTimer wrote:

/snip/

Downloading and installing NS 7.2 sounds easy enough (uninstall
4.5
and
install 7.2), but I'm not sure about the "and convert the
existing NS
4.5 profile to NS 7.2 use." It sounds like there's more for me
to do
than to just think that this happens automatically. What are the
steps
to do this?

Ed


When you first install NS 7.2, and run it for the first time, it
will
look for a profile. If it finds none in the 7.2 profile
location, it
will look in the Communicator profile location. If it finds a
Communicator profile, and it will, it will offer to convert the
profile
for 7.2's use.

All your data, your mail, your bookmarks, etc., will be copied and
converted to a format that NS 7.2 can understand. SeaMonkey 1.1.18
can
also use this profile.

Leave NC 4.5 installed for now. Install 7.2 and run it, allowing
it to
convert your profile. Open 7.2 and verify that the data is there.
Then
you transfer this profile to the new machine. Install 7.2 on the
new
machine, and point it to the profile you have moved. I can point
you to
directions on how to do this.

Once you are sure you no longer need the data in the old NC 4.5
profile,
you can uninstall 4.5.

Lee



I wasn't able to download 7.2 from the "releases" page. But I did
locate
a NS 7.1 CD. Is this version O.K.?

Ed


For this purpose, sure, it will do the same profile conversion that
7.2
will do.

So the Win95 machine has a cd drive? Great!

Lee


Yes, but unfortunately, it doesn't burn.

Ed


Well, you're right as usual! NS 7.1 is installed and all the mail &
addresses are there - in spite of the fact that the readme file stated
requirements of Win 98 or higher, 64 MB RAM & 233 MZ or faster - all of
which I do not meet. Thanks, I would have given up at that point.

So, is there any better way of transferring the Profiles folder to the
laptop than by copying it to a couple of floppy discs, recopying it
to a
CD-RW disc and installing in the Profiles folder of Seamonkey?

Is there a way to determine which Profiles folder applies to NS 7.1?
When I open it up, they both look alike.

If size is a constraint, could I just copy the Mail folder to a floppy?

Ed


A lot depends on what you need to transfer. If all you are concerned
about is mail, just copying the mail folder would get the data you need
transferred. How you proceed depends on how much you need to move.

If it is really just the mail, move the mail folder to your new
computer. Install SeaMonkey 2.0, and create a new clean profile. Open
Mail/News, and create your mail account. Since it was from NC 4.5, I
assume there is only one. Don't let it download any mail yet. Close
SeaMonkey.

In the newly created profile, in the mail subfolder, you should find a
subfolder named for the pop server of the account you just created. In
the Mail folder of the old machine, you should find a subfolder with the
same name. Replace the newly created subfolder with the old one, that
should transfer all your mail.

The addressbooks are in the root of your old profile folder. Any file
with a .mab extension in an address book. Copy them, and paste them into
the new profile folder.

Open SeaMonkey and see if your mail and address books are there.

Lee


Thanks Lee. I've already been using Seamonkey 2.0 on the laptop and have
mail & folders. What I hoped to do was to merge the two mail files and
since there is no address book, use the old one.

What would be the steps to accomplish this?

Ed


Replace the address book with the abook.mab, and any other mab files in
the profile from the old machine.

Take the Inbox file from your old profile. rename it OldInbox. Paste it
into your SeaMonkey Mail folder, in the subfolder for the account, on
the same level with the existing Inbox.

Open SeaMonkey Mail/News. You should see your current Inbox with its
contents, and a new folder called OldInbox, with the mail transferred
from the old machine. You can then sort it as required.

Any mail that you may have stored in other folders in the old account
can be moved in similar fashion, just make sure you don't duplicate
names, in order to avoid overwriting files and lising mail.

Lee


Project successfully completed!!

Thank you Lee,it wouldn't have happened without you.  I ran into a 
little trouble when I put the files in the wrong place.  The path was 
almost identical and it had the same files. But when they didn't show up 
when I opened SM I realized they were in the wrong place.


Thank you Martin, your links broadened my understanding of Seamonkey.

Chris, thanks for dropping off your little "gift".

And all I can say to Benoit is:  try running on 16 MB RAM if you want to 
see slow.


Thank you all.  My wife will 

Re: Transferring From NS 4.5 (Win95) to SM 2.0 (XP)

[OldTimer]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

OldTimer wrote:

OldTimer wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

OldTimer wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

OldTimer wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

OldTimer wrote:

/snip/

Downloading and installing NS 7.2 sounds easy enough (uninstall 4.5
and
install 7.2), but I'm not sure about the "and convert the
existing NS
4.5 profile to NS 7.2 use." It sounds like there's more for me to do
than to just think that this happens automatically. What are the
steps
to do this?

Ed


When you first install NS 7.2, and run it for the first time, it will
look for a profile. If it finds none in the 7.2 profile location, it
will look in the Communicator profile location. If it finds a
Communicator profile, and it will, it will offer to convert the
profile
for 7.2's use.

All your data, your mail, your bookmarks, etc., will be copied and
converted to a format that NS 7.2 can understand. SeaMonkey 1.1.18
can
also use this profile.

Leave NC 4.5 installed for now. Install 7.2 and run it, allowing
it to
convert your profile. Open 7.2 and verify that the data is there.
Then
you transfer this profile to the new machine. Install 7.2 on the new
machine, and point it to the profile you have moved. I can point
you to
directions on how to do this.

Once you are sure you no longer need the data in the old NC 4.5
profile,
you can uninstall 4.5.

Lee



I wasn't able to download 7.2 from the "releases" page. But I did
locate
a NS 7.1 CD. Is this version O.K.?

Ed


For this purpose, sure, it will do the same profile conversion that 7.2
will do.

So the Win95 machine has a cd drive? Great!

Lee


Yes, but unfortunately, it doesn't burn.

Ed


Well, you're right as usual! NS 7.1 is installed and all the mail &
addresses are there - in spite of the fact that the readme file stated
requirements of Win 98 or higher, 64 MB RAM & 233 MZ or faster - all of
which I do not meet. Thanks, I would have given up at that point.

So, is there any better way of transferring the Profiles folder to the
laptop than by copying it to a couple of floppy discs, recopying it to a
CD-RW disc and installing in the Profiles folder of Seamonkey?

Is there a way to determine which Profiles folder applies to NS 7.1?
When I open it up, they both look alike.

If size is a constraint, could I just copy the Mail folder to a floppy?

Ed


A lot depends on what you need to transfer. If all you are concerned
about is mail, just copying the mail folder would get the data you need
transferred. How you proceed depends on how much you need to move.

If it is really just the mail, move the mail folder to your new
computer. Install SeaMonkey 2.0, and create a new clean profile. Open
Mail/News, and create your mail account. Since it was from NC 4.5, I
assume there is only one. Don't let it download any mail yet. Close
SeaMonkey.

In the newly created profile, in the mail subfolder, you should find a
subfolder named for the pop server of the account you just created. In
the Mail folder of the old machine, you should find a subfolder with the
same name. Replace the newly created subfolder with the old one, that
should transfer all your mail.

The addressbooks are in the root of your old profile folder. Any file
with a .mab extension in an address book. Copy them, and paste them into
the new profile folder.

Open SeaMonkey and see if your mail and address books are there.

Lee


Thanks Lee.  I've already been using Seamonkey 2.0 on the laptop and 
have mail & folders.  What I hoped to do was to merge the two mail files 
and since there is no address book, use the old one.


What would be the steps to accomplish this?

Ed
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Re: Transferring From NS 4.5 (Win95) to SM 2.0 (XP)

[OldTimer]

OldTimer wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

OldTimer wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

OldTimer wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

OldTimer wrote:

/snip/

Downloading and installing NS 7.2 sounds easy enough (uninstall 4.5
and
install 7.2), but I'm not sure about the "and convert the existing NS
4.5 profile to NS 7.2 use." It sounds like there's more for me to do
than to just think that this happens automatically. What are the steps
to do this?

Ed


When you first install NS 7.2, and run it for the first time, it will
look for a profile. If it finds none in the 7.2 profile location, it
will look in the Communicator profile location. If it finds a
Communicator profile, and it will, it will offer to convert the profile
for 7.2's use.

All your data, your mail, your bookmarks, etc., will be copied and
converted to a format that NS 7.2 can understand. SeaMonkey 1.1.18 can
also use this profile.

Leave NC 4.5 installed for now. Install 7.2 and run it, allowing it to
convert your profile. Open 7.2 and verify that the data is there. Then
you transfer this profile to the new machine. Install 7.2 on the new
machine, and point it to the profile you have moved. I can point you to
directions on how to do this.

Once you are sure you no longer need the data in the old NC 4.5
profile,
you can uninstall 4.5.

Lee



I wasn't able to download 7.2 from the "releases" page. But I did locate
a NS 7.1 CD. Is this version O.K.?

Ed


For this purpose, sure, it will do the same profile conversion that 7.2
will do.

So the Win95 machine has a cd drive? Great!

Lee


Yes, but unfortunately, it doesn't burn.

Ed


Well, you're right as usual!  NS 7.1 is installed and all the mail & 
addresses are there - in spite of the fact that the readme file stated 
requirements of Win 98 or higher, 64 MB RAM & 233 MZ or faster - all of 
which I do not meet.  Thanks, I would have given up at that point.


So, is there any better way of transferring the Profiles folder to the 
laptop than by copying it to a couple of floppy discs, recopying it to a 
CD-RW disc and installing in the Profiles folder of Seamonkey?


Is there a way to determine which Profiles folder applies to NS 7.1? 
When I open it up, they both look alike.


If size is a constraint, could I just copy the Mail folder to a floppy?

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Re: Transferring From NS 4.5 (Win95) to SM 2.0 (XP)

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Leonidas Jones wrote:

OldTimer wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

OldTimer wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

OldTimer wrote:

/snip/

Downloading and installing NS 7.2 sounds easy enough (uninstall 4.5 and
install 7.2), but I'm not sure about the "and convert the existing NS
4.5 profile to NS 7.2 use." It sounds like there's more for me to do
than to just think that this happens automatically. What are the steps
to do this?

Ed


When you first install NS 7.2, and run it for the first time, it will
look for a profile. If it finds none in the 7.2 profile location, it
will look in the Communicator profile location. If it finds a
Communicator profile, and it will, it will offer to convert the profile
for 7.2's use.

All your data, your mail, your bookmarks, etc., will be copied and
converted to a format that NS 7.2 can understand. SeaMonkey 1.1.18 can
also use this profile.

Leave NC 4.5 installed for now. Install 7.2 and run it, allowing it to
convert your profile. Open 7.2 and verify that the data is there. Then
you transfer this profile to the new machine. Install 7.2 on the new
machine, and point it to the profile you have moved. I can point you to
directions on how to do this.

Once you are sure you no longer need the data in the old NC 4.5 profile,
you can uninstall 4.5.

Lee



I wasn't able to download 7.2 from the "releases" page. But I did locate
a NS 7.1 CD. Is this version O.K.?

Ed


For this purpose, sure, it will do the same profile conversion that 7.2
will do.

So the Win95 machine has a cd drive? Great!

Lee


Yes, but unfortunately, it doesn't burn.

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Re: Transferring From NS 4.5 (Win95) to SM 2.0 (XP)

[OldTimer]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

OldTimer wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

OldTimer wrote:

/snip/

Downloading and installing NS 7.2 sounds easy enough (uninstall 4.5 and
install 7.2), but I'm not sure about the "and convert the existing NS
4.5 profile to NS 7.2 use." It sounds like there's more for me to do
than to just think that this happens automatically. What are the steps
to do this?

Ed


When you first install NS 7.2, and run it for the first time, it will
look for a profile. If it finds none in the 7.2 profile location, it
will look in the Communicator profile location. If it finds a
Communicator profile, and it will, it will offer to convert the profile
for 7.2's use.

All your data, your mail, your bookmarks, etc., will be copied and
converted to a format that NS 7.2 can understand. SeaMonkey 1.1.18 can
also use this profile.

Leave NC 4.5 installed for now. Install 7.2 and run it, allowing it to
convert your profile. Open 7.2 and verify that the data is there. Then
you transfer this profile to the new machine. Install 7.2 on the new
machine, and point it to the profile you have moved. I can point you to
directions on how to do this.

Once you are sure you no longer need the data in the old NC 4.5 profile,
you can uninstall 4.5.

Lee



I wasn't able to download 7.2 from the "releases" page.  But I did 
locate a NS 7.1 CD.  Is this version O.K.?


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Re: Transferring From NS 4.5 (Win95) to SM 2.0 (XP)

[OldTimer]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

OldTimer wrote:

I have Netscape 4.5 on an old IBM PC with Win 95 and I want to transfer
the Mail messages, Inbox, Mail folders & the Address Book to an HP
laptop with Win XP Home SP2 and Seamonkey 2.0 (which already has mail,
folders and address book set up).

With help from references supplied by Martin I have completed the
following steps:

As the old PC only has a floppy drive (A:), I have exported the address
book (LDIF) to a floppy disc by the following steps: Opened Netscape and
clicked on "Address Book", selected the address book and from the File
menu I chose "Export". In the "Export As" window, I typed a file name
and exported it to the floppy drive (A:).

For the mail files, I went to C:\Program Files\Netscape\Users\ and
opened User1 & User2 folders and copied the Inbox.sbd, Inbox, Sent,
Unsent Messages, & Draft files (not .msf) to the floppy disc. Where
there was any duplication of file names with those on the laptop, I
renamed them (eg. InboxOld1, xxxOld2).

I then zipped the mail files on the floppy to a zip folder and copied it
and the Address Book to a CD-RW disc (the laptop does not have a floppy
drive).

I now intend to open the compressed files on the CD with the laptop and
copy them into the equivilant folders/files in my Profiles folder
(abook.mab, Inbox, Sent, etc.).

I hope this all makes sense as I would appreciate some feedback before I
proceed, to assure me that I'm on the right track and have taken the
right steps so far.

An old-timer trying to keep up.
Ed



Darn, Win 95. I never really used it. I did use Win 98.

I would be better if this was Mac OS9. ;)

You will be able to install Netscape 7.2 on Windows 95. If you did, it
would offer to convert your NC 4.5 profile for use in NS 7.2. This would
convert the profile data into formats that SeaMonkey 2.0 could
understand, and enable it to be migrated to a SeaMonkey 2.0 profile,
making the whole thing easier.

Assuming the Win 95 machine can connect to the internet, try downloading
Netscape 7.2:

http://browser.netscape.com/releases

Install it, and convert the existing NC 4.5 profile to NS 7.2 use.

Open NS 7.2 and see if all is working as expected, are the bookmarks
there, is the mail account there, is all the mail there, etc?

If all is good then you copy the entire profile folder. Oh yeah, you
only have a floppy drive available. It probably won't fit.

Well, see if you can go this far, and the we can regroup. I', here for
you. In this case the sig is justified.

Lee



Downloading and installing NS 7.2 sounds easy enough (uninstall 4.5 and 
install 7.2), but I'm not sure about the "and convert the existing NS 
4.5 profile to NS 7.2 use."  It sounds like there's more for me to do 
than to just think that this happens automatically.  What are the steps 
to do this?


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Transferring From NS 4.5 (Win95) to SM 2.0 (XP)

[OldTimer]

I have Netscape 4.5 on an old IBM PC with Win 95 and I want to transfer 
the Mail messages, Inbox, Mail folders & the Address Book to an HP 
laptop with Win XP Home SP2 and Seamonkey 2.0 (which already has mail, 
folders and address book set up).


With help from references supplied by Martin I have completed the 
following steps:


As the old PC only has a floppy drive (A:), I have exported the address 
book (LDIF) to a floppy disc by the following steps:  Opened Netscape 
and clicked on "Address Book", selected the address book and from the 
File menu I chose "Export".  In the "Export As" window, I typed a file 
name and exported it to the floppy drive (A:).


For the mail files, I went to C:\Program Files\Netscape\Users\ and 
opened User1 & User2 folders and copied the Inbox.sbd, Inbox, Sent, 
Unsent Messages, & Draft files (not .msf) to the floppy disc.  Where 
there was any duplication of file names with those on the laptop, I 
renamed them (eg. InboxOld1, xxxOld2).


I then zipped the mail files on the floppy to a zip folder and copied it 
and the Address Book to a CD-RW disc (the laptop does not have a floppy 
drive).


I now intend to open the compressed files on the CD with the laptop and 
copy them into the equivilant folders/files in my Profiles folder 
(abook.mab, Inbox, Sent, etc.).


I hope this all makes sense as I would appreciate some feedback before I 
proceed, to assure me that I'm on the right track and have taken the 
right steps so far.


An old-timer trying to keep up.
Ed

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Re: Transfer folders & included messages?

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OldTimer wrote:

Martin Feitag wrote:

OldTimer schrieb:

Martin Feitag wrote:

Edward S. Kostyk schrieb:

I am running Seamonkey 1.1.17 on Win XP Home SP 2. I have set up a new
mail account (for my personal mail). I would like to transfer some
folders (with their messages ) from the original account to the new
account, but I haven't a clue as to how to do this. Can someone get me
going in the right direction.

To locate your profile, the Profile FAQ:
http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/

Information about the folders and files within the Profile folder:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey
especially:
http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/#transferring_mail

regards

Martin

Martin, you sent me on quite a learning journey with your references. As
they say on Star Trek, "[I've] gone where [I've] never gone before"
Unfortunately, this has now raised a number of questions that I didn't
have before (probably a good thing). I hope you or others can stay with
me to bring this to a conclusion.

1) What's the difference between a Profile and an Account? I have added
2 new accounts ("Work" & "Personal") as I've now moved to a new ISP with
wireless. I added these using Edit > Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings.
I didn't do anything regarding "profiles". Is there more for me to do?


A Profile is the entire thing which stores all settings/preferences
which you might set by the GUI (concerning Browser and News/Emails etc).
It also contains all Email- and Newsgroupaccounts.
Every profile may contain as many Email- and Newsgroupaccounts as the
user wishes to.
You can backup and restore your profile entirely to any Seamonkey 1.1.x
installation at any time (at least while SM is closed ;-) ).



2) I have located 2 profile folders : Profile\default\f68gg1hi.slt and
Profile\SeaMonkey\snxbxfle.slt
the first one has 6 folders: Pop1.sympatico.ca, Pop1.sympatico-1.ca,
kingston.net, kingston-1.net, kingston-2.net and Local Folders.

I found that Pop1.sympatico.ca refers to my original account and
Pop1.sympatico-1.ca refers to my "Work" account and kingston-2.net
refers to my "Personal" account.
I don't know what the remaining 3 folders are for (kingston.net,
kingston-1.net, Local Folders). I am particularly confused why one of
the new accounts (Work) is named with "Sympatico" (my original account
name), when there is no reference to Sympatico in the Account Settings.
Have I done something wrong even though the accounts seem to be working
O.K.?


Those you don't know about are probably just leftovers from accounts
which...um..."I don't know what happened to them" ;-) (except Local
Folders of course).
Feel free to test that by removing one folder after another from that
profile-directory and starting Seamonkey each time you have removed one.
As long as everything is at it's place you're just removing trash and so
you can delete that stuff which you have successfully take out and you
therefore probably don't need.



3) As I want to transfer only specific folders and their sub-folders to
the 2 new accounts, do I just Select & Cut the folders & files (not
.msf) in Pop1.sympatico.ca and Paste them to either Pop1.sympatico-1.ca
and kingston-2.net?


Yes you can cut and paste the folders (each folder is represented by a
file, the one without .msf as you already found out :-) ) to another
account. It doesn't matter if this account lies in the same profile or
not. (I guess in your case all accounts are in one profile)
Easiest way would be to replace the existing inbox etc. in the new
account with your old one.
Note: If you already have mails in your new account which are not in
your old account and therefore should not be lost, you can't replace
them but will need to rename inbox etc. from your old account to
InboxOld or something like that and paste it to the new account with
that new name. Seamonkey will then automatically show those additional
Folders in your new account besides the standard folders on the next
start.

I hope I could help and clarify some things.
kind regards

Martin



Thanks Martin, this should keep me busy over the next few days. I'll
report back how things went.

Ed


Sorry, but I was called away and just returned.  I've run into a 
problem.  Please let me know if I need to open a new thread or can I 
continue with this.


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Re: Transfer folders & included messages?

[OldTimer]

Martin Feitag wrote:

OldTimer schrieb:

Martin Feitag wrote:

Edward S. Kostyk schrieb:

I am running Seamonkey 1.1.17 on Win XP Home SP 2.  I have set up a new
mail account (for my personal mail).  I would like to transfer some
folders (with their messages ) from the original account to the new
account, but I haven't a clue as to how to do this.  Can someone get me
going in the right direction.

To locate your profile, the Profile FAQ:
http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/

Information about the folders and files within the Profile folder:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey
especially:
http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/#transferring_mail

regards

Martin

Martin, you sent me on quite a learning journey with your references. As
they say on Star Trek, "[I've] gone where [I've] never gone before"
Unfortunately, this has now raised a number of questions that I didn't
have before (probably a good thing).  I hope you or others can stay with
me to bring this to a conclusion.

1) What's the difference between a Profile and an Account?  I have added
2 new accounts ("Work" & "Personal") as I've now moved to a new ISP with
wireless.  I added these using Edit > Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings.
I didn't do anything regarding "profiles".  Is there more for me to do?


A Profile is the entire thing which stores all settings/preferences
which you might set by the GUI (concerning Browser and News/Emails etc).
It also contains all Email- and Newsgroupaccounts.
Every profile may contain as many Email- and Newsgroupaccounts as the
user wishes to.
You can backup and restore your profile entirely to any Seamonkey 1.1.x
installation at any time (at least while SM is closed ;-) ).



2) I have located 2 profile folders : Profile\default\f68gg1hi.slt and
Profile\SeaMonkey\snxbxfle.slt
the first one has 6 folders: Pop1.sympatico.ca, Pop1.sympatico-1.ca,
kingston.net, kingston-1.net, kingston-2.net and Local Folders.

I found that Pop1.sympatico.ca refers to my original account and
Pop1.sympatico-1.ca refers to my "Work" account and kingston-2.net
refers to my "Personal" account.
I don't know what the remaining 3 folders are for (kingston.net,
kingston-1.net, Local Folders).  I am particularly confused why one of
the new accounts (Work) is named with "Sympatico" (my original account
name), when there is no reference to Sympatico in the Account Settings.
Have I done something wrong even though the accounts seem to be working
O.K.?


Those you don't know about are probably just leftovers from accounts
which...um..."I don't know what happened to them" ;-) (except Local
Folders of course).
Feel free to test that by removing one folder after another from that
profile-directory and starting Seamonkey each time you have removed one.
As long as everything is at it's place you're just removing trash and so
you can delete that stuff which you have successfully take out and you
therefore probably don't need.



3)  As I want to transfer only specific folders and their sub-folders to
the 2 new accounts, do I just Select & Cut the folders & files (not
.msf) in Pop1.sympatico.ca and Paste them to either Pop1.sympatico-1.ca
and kingston-2.net?


Yes you can cut and paste the folders (each folder is represented by a
file, the one without .msf as you already found out :-) ) to another
account. It doesn't matter if this account lies in the same profile or
not. (I guess in your case all accounts are in one profile)
Easiest way would be to replace the existing inbox etc. in the new
account with your old one.
Note: If you already have mails in your new account which are not in
your old account and therefore should not be lost, you can't replace
them but will need to rename inbox etc. from your old account to
InboxOld or something like that and paste it to the new account with
that new name. Seamonkey will then automatically show those additional
Folders in your new account besides the standard folders on the next start.

I hope I could help and clarify some things.
kind regards

Martin



Thanks Martin, this should keep me busy over the next few days.  I'll 
report back how things went.


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Re: Transfer folders & included messages?

[OldTimer]

Martin Feitag wrote:

Edward S. Kostyk schrieb:

I am running Seamonkey 1.1.17 on Win XP Home SP 2.  I have set up a new
mail account (for my personal mail).  I would like to transfer some
folders (with their messages ) from the original account to the new
account, but I haven't a clue as to how to do this.  Can someone get me
going in the right direction.

To locate your profile, the Profile FAQ:
http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/

Information about the folders and files within the Profile folder:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey
especially:
http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/#transferring_mail

regards

Martin


Martin, you sent me on quite a learning journey with your references. 
As they say on Star Trek, "[I've] gone where [I've] never gone before" 
Unfortunately, this has now raised a number of questions that I didn't 
have before (probably a good thing).  I hope you or others can stay with 
me to bring this to a conclusion.


1) What's the difference between a Profile and an Account?  I have added 
2 new accounts ("Work" & "Personal") as I've now moved to a new ISP with 
wireless.  I added these using Edit > Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings.

I didn't do anything regarding "profiles".  Is there more for me to do?

2) I have located 2 profile folders : Profile\default\f68gg1hi.slt and 
Profile\SeaMonkey\snxbxfle.slt
the first one has 6 folders: Pop1.sympatico.ca, Pop1.sympatico-1.ca, 
kingston.net, kingston-1.net, kingston-2.net and Local Folders.


I found that Pop1.sympatico.ca refers to my original account and
Pop1.sympatico-1.ca refers to my "Work" account and kingston-2.net 
refers to my "Personal" account.
I don't know what the remaining 3 folders are for (kingston.net, 
kingston-1.net, Local Folders).  I am particularly confused why one of 
the new accounts (Work) is named with "Sympatico" (my original account 
name), when there is no reference to Sympatico in the Account Settings.
Have I done something wrong even though the accounts seem to be working 
O.K.?


3)  As I want to transfer only specific folders and their sub-folders to 
the 2 new accounts, do I just Select & Cut the folders & files (not 
.msf) in Pop1.sympatico.ca and Paste them to either Pop1.sympatico-1.ca 
and kingston-2.net?


I hope you can make sense out of all this,

An old-timer trying to keep up.
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