Re: "password dot" problem

[NoOp]

On 11/30/2014 11:34 AM, Lee wrote:
> On 11/18/14, NoOp  wrote:
>> On 11/18/2014 06:34 AM, Jim wrote:
>>> NoOp wrote:
 On 11/15/2014 02:01 PM, Jim wrote:
> <.. snip bit about 20 char passwords ..>


>>> The sites are -- logging into the tricare portal through tricareonline,
>>> and DoD Self-Service logon (https://www.dmdc.osd.mil/dsaccess/).  These
>>> two sites work together.  When you're password expires, it sends you the
>>> the second site to change your password.
>>>
>   <.. snip ..>
>> Yeah, I'm familiar with that site... Remember what I mentioned about certs?
>> 
>> www.dmdc.osd.mil uses an invalid security certificate.
>>
>> The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is unknown.
>>
>> (Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer)
>> 
>>
>>
>> You need to make security exceptions for nearly all.
> 
> I'd guess not if you import the DOD CA-27 cert into the SeaMonkey
> certificate store.
> 
> Look at the cert returned for www.dmdc.osd.mil & you'll see
> CA Issuers: URI: http://crl.disa.mil/sign/DODCA_27.cer
> 
> grab the DODCA_27.cer cert, import it into the SM cert manager /
> authorities store, close SM, open and go to https://www.dmdc.osd.mil
> 
> hopefully no more cert warnings :)
> 
> Best Regards,
> Lee
> 

Please send to the list instead of my email address directly - I use the
news.mozilla.org news server & gmane so I do not need an additional
email - thanks.

The DODCA_27.cer cert creates more problems & doesn't work by itself. In
order to try to resolve the issue I deleted the DODCA_27.cer that I
imported and instead added:



Those auto-magically pull in the proper DOD CA_27 etc. I had done this
in the past & had forgotten to reinstall the DoD Class 3 PKI's.
  Never-the-less, it's a shame that Vets, AD, and RET have to jump
through hoops in order to deal with VA and DOD certs. At least
"https://myaccess.dmdc.osd.mil"; uses Verisign so I use that for my DS logon.

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Re: "password dot" problem

[Lee]

On 11/18/14, NoOp  wrote:
> On 11/18/2014 06:34 AM, Jim wrote:
>> NoOp wrote:
>>> On 11/15/2014 02:01 PM, Jim wrote:
<.. snip bit about 20 char passwords ..>
>>>
>>>
>> The sites are -- logging into the tricare portal through tricareonline,
>> and DoD Self-Service logon (https://www.dmdc.osd.mil/dsaccess/).  These
>> two sites work together.  When you're password expires, it sends you the
>> the second site to change your password.
>>
  <.. snip ..>
> Yeah, I'm familiar with that site... Remember what I mentioned about certs?
> 
> www.dmdc.osd.mil uses an invalid security certificate.
>
> The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is unknown.
>
> (Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer)
> 
>
>
> You need to make security exceptions for nearly all.

I'd guess not if you import the DOD CA-27 cert into the SeaMonkey
certificate store.

Look at the cert returned for www.dmdc.osd.mil & you'll see
CA Issuers: URI: http://crl.disa.mil/sign/DODCA_27.cer

grab the DODCA_27.cer cert, import it into the SM cert manager /
authorities store, close SM, open and go to https://www.dmdc.osd.mil

hopefully no more cert warnings :)

Best Regards,
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Re: "password dot" problem

[Rufus]

Jim wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Rufus wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/15/2014 2:01 PM, Jim wrote:

I am not expecting an answer to this question, as most of you can't
get
to this web site.

I am retired military and need to use many military web sites.  The
military is paranoid about password security and requires users to
change their passwords every 90 days (and the requirements get ever
more
complex).

I use Keepass to generate passwords, and paste the passwords into the
proper boxes.  Last week, I was told I need to change my password.
One
requirement is that the password must be between 15 and 20
characters.
I set Keepass to generate a 20-character password and meet all the
other
requirements.  I had problems getting a password, that I could use to
log in.

I found out, that in Seamonkey, when I pasted my 20-character
password
into the box, it only showed 17 "password dots".  (It was cutting
off 3
characters).

When I successfully used IE, the boxes would hold 20 password dots.

Any thoughts on this?

TIA -- Jim



Try the extension Show my Password from
.

After you enter the password, left-click on it twice and then twice
again.  It should highlight on the 2nd and 4th clicks.  Then
right-click
and select Show Password from the pull-down context menu.  If you do
not
see Show Password in the menu, left-click twice more.

Be careful about not moving your cursor or clicking your mouse while
viewing your password.  Otherwise, it will revert to dots.



Still begs the question - what is the longest Password string that SM
will store natively, and what is the longest one it will display in
hidden presentation?  And is there any difference between the two?

Those answers would be good general knowledge for a user to know - I
feel the OP's pain...


Interesting questions, but I don't see anything in the OP's post about
storing the password in SM. (the military probably wouldn't like that --
I'd treat it the same as my bank passwords, which I never save on any
computer). He only says he pasted it into SeaMonkey.



I think it's implied that he's using the SM Password Manager in that
he's asking about the dots - and I would also be surprised that he
would/could be allowed to use SM on a gov-controlled system, so I have
to assume he's using it on his own private machine to access VA benefit
sites and such where he would still have the requirement to refresh his
passwords.

...sooo...back to my question(s) - what is the longest Password string
that SM will store natively, and what is the longest one it will display
in hidden presentation?  And is there any difference between the two?

And in addition - what is the longest string SM will even allow as input?


I am not using SM's password manager, and this is my own PC, not the
govt's.  Sorry -- been away from the forums for a few days.


I figured such had to be the case!

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Re: "password dot" problem

[NoOp]

On 11/18/2014 06:34 AM, Jim wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> On 11/15/2014 02:01 PM, Jim wrote:
>>> I am not expecting an answer to this question, as most of you can't get
>>> to this web site.
>>>
>>> I am retired military and need to use many military web sites.  The
>>> military is paranoid about password security and requires users to
>>> change their passwords every 90 days (and the requirements get ever more
>>> complex).
>>>
>>> I use Keepass to generate passwords, and paste the passwords into the
>>> proper boxes.  Last week, I was told I need to change my password.  One
>>> requirement is that the password must be between 15 and 20 characters.
>>> I set Keepass to generate a 20-character password and meet all the other
>>> requirements.  I had problems getting a password, that I could use to
>>> log in.
>>>
>>> I found out, that in Seamonkey, when I pasted my 20-character password
>>> into the box, it only showed 17 "password dots".  (It was cutting off 3
>>> characters).
>>>
>>> When I successfully used IE, the boxes would hold 20 password dots.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on this?
>>>
>>> TIA -- Jim
>>>
>>
>> Don't know the answer to the maximum password length - I thought it was
>> 256, you can file a bug report if you're only getting 17.
>>
>> Curious about which sites are requiring 20 char passwords - I use
>> ebenefits.va.gov (portal to multiple sites), myhealth.va.gov etc., and
>> have yet to find one that requires 20 chars or more. Biggest problem
>> that I have with those sites are their security certificates are self
>> issued and often are screwed up.
>>
>>
>>
> The sites are -- logging into the tricare portal through tricareonline, 
> and DoD Self-Service logon (https://www.dmdc.osd.mil/dsaccess/).  These 
> two sites work together.  When you're password expires, it sends you the 
> the second site to change your password.
> 
> They don't require a 20 character password -- I think anything from 15 
> to 20 characters is acceptable.  -- I went to a smaller password than 20 
> to solve the problem.  Just brought this subject up for discussion -- 
> that's all.
> 

Yeah, I'm familiar with that site... Remember what I mentioned about certs?

www.dmdc.osd.mil uses an invalid security certificate.

The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is unknown.

(Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer)



You need to make security exceptions for nearly all. BTW: try
ebenefits.va.gov - you can link to 55 sites throught that portal,
including your tricare.
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Re: "password dot" problem

[Bill Spikowski]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/17/2014 10:35 AM, BIll Spikowski wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/17/2014 6:33 AM, BIll Spikowski wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

Try the extension Show my Password from .

SM can't find this URL -- is there another way in?


Try
.
The netcat.ath.cx URI is what is contained in the extension, which is
what was shown by the InfoList button on PrefBar.  The
addons.mozilla.org URI is what I have in my bookmarks, and it worked
when I tried it just now.

The addons.mozilla.org page indicates "Not available for SeaMonkey
2.26.1".  Try downloading it anyway and installing it from your local
hard drive.  Let me know in this thread if that does not work.  In that
case, file install.rdf within the .xpi file needs to be modified.  I can
do that and provide you with the result.

I couldn't get it to install; I'm running version 2.26

Then I downloaded the Firefox version, which also wouldn't install. Even "Extension 
Converter" wouldn't make it work!



I modified the install.rdf file, as I previously indicated might be
necessary.  The extension should now install in SeaMonkey through
version 2.31.  I then uploaded the .xpi file to
.  Please let
me know when you download this and install it so that I can then delete
it from my Web server.

NOTE WELL:  I did NOT modify the install.rdf file for installation in
the current version of Firefox.


David -- thank you -- your version installed without incident.

The password doesn't appear on mouse hover, but the context menu has a "show 
password" option, which does the job for me!

This will solve my frequent problem with passwords not being accepted because the 
"shift lock" has been pressed inadvertently and I haven't realized it!

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Re: "password dot" problem

[Jim]

NoOp wrote:

On 11/15/2014 02:01 PM, Jim wrote:

I am not expecting an answer to this question, as most of you can't get
to this web site.

I am retired military and need to use many military web sites.  The
military is paranoid about password security and requires users to
change their passwords every 90 days (and the requirements get ever more
complex).

I use Keepass to generate passwords, and paste the passwords into the
proper boxes.  Last week, I was told I need to change my password.  One
requirement is that the password must be between 15 and 20 characters.
I set Keepass to generate a 20-character password and meet all the other
requirements.  I had problems getting a password, that I could use to
log in.

I found out, that in Seamonkey, when I pasted my 20-character password
into the box, it only showed 17 "password dots".  (It was cutting off 3
characters).

When I successfully used IE, the boxes would hold 20 password dots.

Any thoughts on this?

TIA -- Jim



Don't know the answer to the maximum password length - I thought it was
256, you can file a bug report if you're only getting 17.

Curious about which sites are requiring 20 char passwords - I use
ebenefits.va.gov (portal to multiple sites), myhealth.va.gov etc., and
have yet to find one that requires 20 chars or more. Biggest problem
that I have with those sites are their security certificates are self
issued and often are screwed up.



The sites are -- logging into the tricare portal through tricareonline, 
and DoD Self-Service logon (https://www.dmdc.osd.mil/dsaccess/).  These 
two sites work together.  When you're password expires, it sends you the 
the second site to change your password.


They don't require a 20 character password -- I think anything from 15 
to 20 characters is acceptable.  -- I went to a smaller password than 20 
to solve the problem.  Just brought this subject up for discussion -- 
that's all.

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Re: "password dot" problem

[Jim]

Rufus wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Rufus wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/15/2014 2:01 PM, Jim wrote:

I am not expecting an answer to this question, as most of you can't
get
to this web site.

I am retired military and need to use many military web sites.  The
military is paranoid about password security and requires users to
change their passwords every 90 days (and the requirements get ever
more
complex).

I use Keepass to generate passwords, and paste the passwords into the
proper boxes.  Last week, I was told I need to change my password.
One
requirement is that the password must be between 15 and 20 characters.
I set Keepass to generate a 20-character password and meet all the
other
requirements.  I had problems getting a password, that I could use to
log in.

I found out, that in Seamonkey, when I pasted my 20-character password
into the box, it only showed 17 "password dots".  (It was cutting
off 3
characters).

When I successfully used IE, the boxes would hold 20 password dots.

Any thoughts on this?

TIA -- Jim



Try the extension Show my Password from
.

After you enter the password, left-click on it twice and then twice
again.  It should highlight on the 2nd and 4th clicks.  Then
right-click
and select Show Password from the pull-down context menu.  If you do
not
see Show Password in the menu, left-click twice more.

Be careful about not moving your cursor or clicking your mouse while
viewing your password.  Otherwise, it will revert to dots.



Still begs the question - what is the longest Password string that SM
will store natively, and what is the longest one it will display in
hidden presentation?  And is there any difference between the two?

Those answers would be good general knowledge for a user to know - I
feel the OP's pain...


Interesting questions, but I don't see anything in the OP's post about
storing the password in SM. (the military probably wouldn't like that --
I'd treat it the same as my bank passwords, which I never save on any
computer). He only says he pasted it into SeaMonkey.



I think it's implied that he's using the SM Password Manager in that
he's asking about the dots - and I would also be surprised that he
would/could be allowed to use SM on a gov-controlled system, so I have
to assume he's using it on his own private machine to access VA benefit
sites and such where he would still have the requirement to refresh his
passwords.

...sooo...back to my question(s) - what is the longest Password string
that SM will store natively, and what is the longest one it will display
in hidden presentation?  And is there any difference between the two?

And in addition - what is the longest string SM will even allow as input?

I am not using SM's password manager, and this is my own PC, not the 
govt's.  Sorry -- been away from the forums for a few days.

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Re: "password dot" problem

[David E. Ross]

On 11/17/2014 10:35 AM, BIll Spikowski wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 11/17/2014 6:33 AM, BIll Spikowski wrote:
>>> David E. Ross wrote:
 Try the extension Show my Password from 
 .
>>>
>>> SM can't find this URL -- is there another way in?
>>>
>> Try
>> .
>> The netcat.ath.cx URI is what is contained in the extension, which is
>> what was shown by the InfoList button on PrefBar.  The
>> addons.mozilla.org URI is what I have in my bookmarks, and it worked
>> when I tried it just now.
>>
>> The addons.mozilla.org page indicates "Not available for SeaMonkey
>> 2.26.1".  Try downloading it anyway and installing it from your local
>> hard drive.  Let me know in this thread if that does not work.  In that
>> case, file install.rdf within the .xpi file needs to be modified.  I can
>> do that and provide you with the result.
> 
> I couldn't get it to install; I'm running version 2.26
> 
> Then I downloaded the Firefox version, which also wouldn't install. Even 
> "Extension Converter" wouldn't make it work!
> 
> 

I modified the install.rdf file, as I previously indicated might be
necessary.  The extension should now install in SeaMonkey through
version 2.31.  I then uploaded the .xpi file to
.  Please let
me know when you download this and install it so that I can then delete
it from my Web server.

NOTE WELL:  I did NOT modify the install.rdf file for installation in
the current version of Firefox.

-- 
David E. Ross

I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can
be used when autocomplete=off.  See
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Re: "password dot" problem

[BIll Spikowski]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/17/2014 6:33 AM, BIll Spikowski wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

Try the extension Show my Password from .


SM can't find this URL -- is there another way in?


Try
.
The netcat.ath.cx URI is what is contained in the extension, which is
what was shown by the InfoList button on PrefBar.  The
addons.mozilla.org URI is what I have in my bookmarks, and it worked
when I tried it just now.

The addons.mozilla.org page indicates "Not available for SeaMonkey
2.26.1".  Try downloading it anyway and installing it from your local
hard drive.  Let me know in this thread if that does not work.  In that
case, file install.rdf within the .xpi file needs to be modified.  I can
do that and provide you with the result.


I couldn't get it to install; I'm running version 2.26

Then I downloaded the Firefox version, which also wouldn't install. Even "Extension 
Converter" wouldn't make it work!


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Re: "password dot" problem

[David E. Ross]

On 11/17/2014 6:33 AM, BIll Spikowski wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> Try the extension Show my Password from 
>> . 
> 
> 
> SM can't find this URL -- is there another way in?
> 

Try
.
The netcat.ath.cx URI is what is contained in the extension, which is
what was shown by the InfoList button on PrefBar.  The
addons.mozilla.org URI is what I have in my bookmarks, and it worked
when I tried it just now.

The addons.mozilla.org page indicates "Not available for SeaMonkey
2.26.1".  Try downloading it anyway and installing it from your local
hard drive.  Let me know in this thread if that does not work.  In that
case, file install.rdf within the .xpi file needs to be modified.  I can
do that and provide you with the result.

-- 
David E. Ross

I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can
be used when autocomplete=off.  See
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Re: "password dot" problem

[NoOp]

On 11/17/2014 06:33 AM, BIll Spikowski wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> Try the extension Show my Password from 
>> . 
> 
> 
> SM can't find this URL -- is there another way in?
> 

Try Saved Passwords:



You can open, click on 'New' and customize. Click on 'Show' enter your
master password and you can easily see the new or stored password(s).

An easy test for 20 chars is 'thispasswordistwenty' - that's 20
characters exactly. Of course, don't use except for testing, or modify
to make it a little less obvious, but if testing for twenty characters
it's easy to remember.
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Re: "password dot" problem

[BIll Spikowski]

David E. Ross wrote:
Try the extension Show my Password from . 



SM can't find this URL -- is there another way in?
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Re: "password dot" problem

[NoOp]

On 11/15/2014 02:01 PM, Jim wrote:
> I am not expecting an answer to this question, as most of you can't get 
> to this web site.
> 
> I am retired military and need to use many military web sites.  The 
> military is paranoid about password security and requires users to 
> change their passwords every 90 days (and the requirements get ever more 
> complex).
> 
> I use Keepass to generate passwords, and paste the passwords into the 
> proper boxes.  Last week, I was told I need to change my password.  One 
> requirement is that the password must be between 15 and 20 characters. 
> I set Keepass to generate a 20-character password and meet all the other 
> requirements.  I had problems getting a password, that I could use to 
> log in.
> 
> I found out, that in Seamonkey, when I pasted my 20-character password 
> into the box, it only showed 17 "password dots".  (It was cutting off 3 
> characters).
> 
> When I successfully used IE, the boxes would hold 20 password dots.
> 
> Any thoughts on this?
> 
> TIA -- Jim
> 

Don't know the answer to the maximum password length - I thought it was
256, you can file a bug report if you're only getting 17.

Curious about which sites are requiring 20 char passwords - I use
ebenefits.va.gov (portal to multiple sites), myhealth.va.gov etc., and
have yet to find one that requires 20 chars or more. Biggest problem
that I have with those sites are their security certificates are self
issued and often are screwed up.



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Re: "password dot" problem

[Rufus]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Rufus wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/15/2014 2:01 PM, Jim wrote:

I am not expecting an answer to this question, as most of you can't get
to this web site.

I am retired military and need to use many military web sites.  The
military is paranoid about password security and requires users to
change their passwords every 90 days (and the requirements get ever
more
complex).

I use Keepass to generate passwords, and paste the passwords into the
proper boxes.  Last week, I was told I need to change my password.  One
requirement is that the password must be between 15 and 20 characters.
I set Keepass to generate a 20-character password and meet all the
other
requirements.  I had problems getting a password, that I could use to
log in.

I found out, that in Seamonkey, when I pasted my 20-character password
into the box, it only showed 17 "password dots".  (It was cutting off 3
characters).

When I successfully used IE, the boxes would hold 20 password dots.

Any thoughts on this?

TIA -- Jim



Try the extension Show my Password from
.

After you enter the password, left-click on it twice and then twice
again.  It should highlight on the 2nd and 4th clicks.  Then right-click
and select Show Password from the pull-down context menu.  If you do not
see Show Password in the menu, left-click twice more.

Be careful about not moving your cursor or clicking your mouse while
viewing your password.  Otherwise, it will revert to dots.



Still begs the question - what is the longest Password string that SM
will store natively, and what is the longest one it will display in
hidden presentation?  And is there any difference between the two?

Those answers would be good general knowledge for a user to know - I
feel the OP's pain...


Interesting questions, but I don't see anything in the OP's post about
storing the password in SM. (the military probably wouldn't like that --
I'd treat it the same as my bank passwords, which I never save on any
computer). He only says he pasted it into SeaMonkey.



I think it's implied that he's using the SM Password Manager in that 
he's asking about the dots - and I would also be surprised that he 
would/could be allowed to use SM on a gov-controlled system, so I have 
to assume he's using it on his own private machine to access VA benefit 
sites and such where he would still have the requirement to refresh his 
passwords.


...sooo...back to my question(s) - what is the longest Password string 
that SM will store natively, and what is the longest one it will display 
in hidden presentation?  And is there any difference between the two?


And in addition - what is the longest string SM will even allow as input?

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Re: "password dot" problem

[Jim]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Jim wrote:

I am not expecting an answer to this question, as most of you can't get
to this web site.

I am retired military and need to use many military web sites.  The
military is paranoid about password security and requires users to
change their passwords every 90 days (and the requirements get ever more
complex).

I use Keepass to generate passwords, and paste the passwords into the
proper boxes.  Last week, I was told I need to change my password.  One
requirement is that the password must be between 15 and 20 characters. I
set Keepass to generate a 20-character password and meet all the other
requirements.  I had problems getting a password, that I could use to
log in.

I found out, that in Seamonkey, when I pasted my 20-character password
into the box, it only showed 17 "password dots".  (It was cutting off 3
characters).

When I successfully used IE, the boxes would hold 20 password dots.

Any thoughts on this?


That should be the webmaster's fault -- they're the ones who specify the
length of fillable fields. But if IE lets you in, that's probably not it.

Could it be a display issue? I mean, if you paste the whole password in
SeaMonkey, could it be that you don't see 20 dots but it still works?

Don't know (about that being the webmaster's fault).  One thing that is 
the webmaster's fault is that the page states the rules, and changes a 
red "x" to a check mark for each rule the password satisfies.  If you 
paste the password in the blank, all the criteria keep the red "x"es 
until you delete the last character (and then reenter it).


Wish the military would just give us retirees CAC cards.  I would gladly 
pay a reasonable fee to circumvent this password madness.

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Re: "password dot" problem

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Rufus wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/15/2014 2:01 PM, Jim wrote:

I am not expecting an answer to this question, as most of you can't get
to this web site.

I am retired military and need to use many military web sites.  The
military is paranoid about password security and requires users to
change their passwords every 90 days (and the requirements get ever more
complex).

I use Keepass to generate passwords, and paste the passwords into the
proper boxes.  Last week, I was told I need to change my password.  One
requirement is that the password must be between 15 and 20 characters.
I set Keepass to generate a 20-character password and meet all the other
requirements.  I had problems getting a password, that I could use to
log in.

I found out, that in Seamonkey, when I pasted my 20-character password
into the box, it only showed 17 "password dots".  (It was cutting off 3
characters).

When I successfully used IE, the boxes would hold 20 password dots.

Any thoughts on this?

TIA -- Jim



Try the extension Show my Password from
.

After you enter the password, left-click on it twice and then twice
again.  It should highlight on the 2nd and 4th clicks.  Then right-click
and select Show Password from the pull-down context menu.  If you do not
see Show Password in the menu, left-click twice more.

Be careful about not moving your cursor or clicking your mouse while
viewing your password.  Otherwise, it will revert to dots.



Still begs the question - what is the longest Password string that SM
will store natively, and what is the longest one it will display in
hidden presentation?  And is there any difference between the two?

Those answers would be good general knowledge for a user to know - I
feel the OP's pain...


Interesting questions, but I don't see anything in the OP's post about 
storing the password in SM. (the military probably wouldn't like that -- 
I'd treat it the same as my bank passwords, which I never save on any 
computer). He only says he pasted it into SeaMonkey.


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Re: "password dot" problem

[Rufus]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/15/2014 2:01 PM, Jim wrote:

I am not expecting an answer to this question, as most of you can't get
to this web site.

I am retired military and need to use many military web sites.  The
military is paranoid about password security and requires users to
change their passwords every 90 days (and the requirements get ever more
complex).

I use Keepass to generate passwords, and paste the passwords into the
proper boxes.  Last week, I was told I need to change my password.  One
requirement is that the password must be between 15 and 20 characters.
I set Keepass to generate a 20-character password and meet all the other
requirements.  I had problems getting a password, that I could use to
log in.

I found out, that in Seamonkey, when I pasted my 20-character password
into the box, it only showed 17 "password dots".  (It was cutting off 3
characters).

When I successfully used IE, the boxes would hold 20 password dots.

Any thoughts on this?

TIA -- Jim



Try the extension Show my Password from
.

After you enter the password, left-click on it twice and then twice
again.  It should highlight on the 2nd and 4th clicks.  Then right-click
and select Show Password from the pull-down context menu.  If you do not
see Show Password in the menu, left-click twice more.

Be careful about not moving your cursor or clicking your mouse while
viewing your password.  Otherwise, it will revert to dots.



Still begs the question - what is the longest Password string that SM 
will store natively, and what is the longest one it will display in 
hidden presentation?  And is there any difference between the two?


Those answers would be good general knowledge for a user to know - I 
feel the OP's pain...


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Re: "password dot" problem

[David E. Ross]

On 11/15/2014 2:01 PM, Jim wrote:
> I am not expecting an answer to this question, as most of you can't get 
> to this web site.
> 
> I am retired military and need to use many military web sites.  The 
> military is paranoid about password security and requires users to 
> change their passwords every 90 days (and the requirements get ever more 
> complex).
> 
> I use Keepass to generate passwords, and paste the passwords into the 
> proper boxes.  Last week, I was told I need to change my password.  One 
> requirement is that the password must be between 15 and 20 characters. 
> I set Keepass to generate a 20-character password and meet all the other 
> requirements.  I had problems getting a password, that I could use to 
> log in.
> 
> I found out, that in Seamonkey, when I pasted my 20-character password 
> into the box, it only showed 17 "password dots".  (It was cutting off 3 
> characters).
> 
> When I successfully used IE, the boxes would hold 20 password dots.
> 
> Any thoughts on this?
> 
> TIA -- Jim
> 

Try the extension Show my Password from
.

After you enter the password, left-click on it twice and then twice
again.  It should highlight on the 2nd and 4th clicks.  Then right-click
and select Show Password from the pull-down context menu.  If you do not
see Show Password in the menu, left-click twice more.

Be careful about not moving your cursor or clicking your mouse while
viewing your password.  Otherwise, it will revert to dots.

-- 
David E. Ross

I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can
be used when autocomplete=off.  See
.
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Re: "password dot" problem

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Jim wrote:

I am not expecting an answer to this question, as most of you can't get
to this web site.

I am retired military and need to use many military web sites.  The
military is paranoid about password security and requires users to
change their passwords every 90 days (and the requirements get ever more
complex).

I use Keepass to generate passwords, and paste the passwords into the
proper boxes.  Last week, I was told I need to change my password.  One
requirement is that the password must be between 15 and 20 characters. I
set Keepass to generate a 20-character password and meet all the other
requirements.  I had problems getting a password, that I could use to
log in.

I found out, that in Seamonkey, when I pasted my 20-character password
into the box, it only showed 17 "password dots".  (It was cutting off 3
characters).

When I successfully used IE, the boxes would hold 20 password dots.

Any thoughts on this?


That should be the webmaster's fault -- they're the ones who specify the 
length of fillable fields. But if IE lets you in, that's probably not it.


Could it be a display issue? I mean, if you paste the whole password in 
SeaMonkey, could it be that you don't see 20 dots but it still works?


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"password dot" problem

[Jim]

I am not expecting an answer to this question, as most of you can't get 
to this web site.


I am retired military and need to use many military web sites.  The 
military is paranoid about password security and requires users to 
change their passwords every 90 days (and the requirements get ever more 
complex).


I use Keepass to generate passwords, and paste the passwords into the 
proper boxes.  Last week, I was told I need to change my password.  One 
requirement is that the password must be between 15 and 20 characters. 
I set Keepass to generate a 20-character password and meet all the other 
requirements.  I had problems getting a password, that I could use to 
log in.


I found out, that in Seamonkey, when I pasted my 20-character password 
into the box, it only showed 17 "password dots".  (It was cutting off 3 
characters).


When I successfully used IE, the boxes would hold 20 password dots.

Any thoughts on this?

TIA -- Jim

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