Re: Default profile in 2.48 will not start

[David E. Ross]

On 8/1/2017 7:32 PM, Desiree wrote:
> On 8/1/2017 5:02 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 8/1/2017 5:31 AM, Desiree wrote:
>>> I've mostly been using a newer profile since January 2017 and was using
>>> it when I shut SeaMonkey down and then installed 2.48 and restarted
>>> SeaMonkey.  It was fine on this profile except it could not do a speed
>>> test at dslreports (or anywhere) and get the usual speed.  It would get
>>> an extremely low download speed (other browsers got normal speed).  I
>>> had to reboot the computer for SeaMonkey 2.48 to be able to do a speed
>>> test correctly which seemed odd.
>>>
>>> I 've had the new version for a few hours and just now tried to start
>>> the default profile (after reading at Mozillazine forums that someone
>>> lost their history on their very old default profile but their newer
>>> profile on 2.48 was fine).  My history is fine on the newer profile
>>> (only goes back to January 2017 while history on the default profile
>>> goes back as many years as SeaMonkey can keep) but when I tried to start
>>> the default profile by switching profiles within SeaMonkey, it would not
>>> open.  I get a SeaMonkey icon in the task bar but it will not start.  It
>>> is a VERY OLD profile (MANY YEARS) and, yes, I backed it up before
>>> installing 2.48.
>>>
>>> How do I get SeaMonkey to start in the newer, working profile?  I
>>> suspect the older, default one is not salvageable (as the poster at
>>> Mozillazine thinks about his).  This should not have happened though and
>>> I blame it on the fact that I could NOT update internally. I have not,
>>> on any gecko browser, had good results with being forced to install a
>>> new version rather than update internally.
>>>
>>
>> Windows 7
>> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101
>>  SeaMonkey/2.48
>>
>> I just now ran the DSLReports speed test without any problem.  I am
>> using the same profile that I used with prior SeaMonkey versions; some
>> of the files in my profile are over 10 years old.
>>
>> To start SeaMonkey in a specific profile:
>>
>> 1.  Create a shortcut to the SeaMonkey executable (seamonkey.exe).
>>
>> 2.  Open the properties of the shortcut.
>>
>> 3.  In the Target area of the Properties window, add
>>  -p xxx
>> where "xxx" is the profile's name (not the name of the profile folder,
>> but the name you gave the profile).  For my primary profile named David,
>> it looks like
>>  "C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe" -p David
> 
> Thanks!  I vaguely remember now doing that a long time ago.  I have 
> Windows 8.0 Pro and Start8 but even it doesn't make the Windows Start 
> Menu enjoyable so I avoid using it and when I wrote the above, I had not 
> thought about looking at SeaMonkey there (I access SeaMonkey via Quick 
> Start menu).  So, today I clicked on SeaMonkey in the Start 8 Start Menu 
> and saw Profile Manager, opened it and switched to the newer profile 
> which started just fine.
> 

Have you considered Classic Shell from ?
It works with Windows 8 (and 7, 8.1, and others).  It allows you to
tailor much of the Windows user interface (but not all) to resemble
Windows XP.

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Re: Default profile in 2.48 will not start

[Desiree]

On 8/1/2017 6:42 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

If you have a backup remove the following files and folders from this profile
and see if it comes up:

Folders:
storage
crashes
minidumps
webapps

Files:
webappsstore.*
xulstore.json

Might also be extension related if its really old so try starting in safe mode.

FRG

Desiree wrote:

I've mostly been using a newer profile since January 2017 and was using it
when I shut SeaMonkey down and then installed 2.48 and restarted SeaMonkey.
It was fine on this profile except it could not do a speed test at dslreports
(or anywhere) and get the usual speed.  It would get an extremely low download
speed (other browsers got normal speed).  I had to reboot the computer for
SeaMonkey 2.48 to be able to do a speed test correctly which seemed odd.

I 've had the new version for a few hours and just now tried to start the
default profile (after reading at Mozillazine forums that someone lost their
history on their very old default profile but their newer profile on 2.48 was
fine).  My history is fine on the newer profile (only goes back to January
2017 while history on the default profile goes back as many years as SeaMonkey
can keep) but when I tried to start the default profile by switching profiles
within SeaMonkey, it would not open.  I get a SeaMonkey icon in the task bar
but it will not start.  It is a VERY OLD profile (MANY YEARS) and, yes, I
backed it up before installing 2.48.

How do I get SeaMonkey to start in the newer, working profile?  I suspect the
older, default one is not salvageable (as the poster at Mozillazine thinks
about his).  This should not have happened though and I blame it on the fact
that I could NOT update internally. I have not, on any gecko browser, had good
results with being forced to install a new version rather than update 
internally.


Yes, I thought maybe Session Manager that I have used on Fx for many 
years, (but only this year on SeaMonkey) could be the problem. But I 
didn't think about trying Safe Mode until today (after some sleep).  The 
default profile started just fine in Safe Mode.  So, I looked at the 
disabled extensions to see if I might suspect one as the problem but 
most of them I have on the newer profile which is fine.


I closed SeaMonkey Safe Mode.  I restarted the problematic default 
profile and it was fine.  But because I had started in Safe Mode 
earlier, Session Manager did not popup asking which session to start.  A 
new session with no saved tabs was started.


I looked at History and it said about 8 sites were visited early this AM 
(when I couldn't get SeaMonkey default profile to start).   So, 
evidently, SeaMonkey default profile did start and used the last saved 
tab session but I couldn't see it and Safe Mode today  started with a 
NEW session, and no saved tabs.  I closed SeaMonkey and restarted 
default profile and SAME PROBLEM AGAIN.  Session Manager popped up and 
asked which session to start.  I chose the session and saw a brief flash 
on my screen and then nothing but SeaMonkey was open on the taskbar. 
This confirms the problem is with Session Manager.  I'll have to start 
again in Safe Mode and uninstall Session Manager.  Restart normally and 
reinstall Session Manager (or simply clear all saved sessions and not 
have to uninstall/reinstall).

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Re: Default profile in 2.48 will not start

[Desiree]

On 8/1/2017 5:02 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/1/2017 5:31 AM, Desiree wrote:

I've mostly been using a newer profile since January 2017 and was using
it when I shut SeaMonkey down and then installed 2.48 and restarted
SeaMonkey.  It was fine on this profile except it could not do a speed
test at dslreports (or anywhere) and get the usual speed.  It would get
an extremely low download speed (other browsers got normal speed).  I
had to reboot the computer for SeaMonkey 2.48 to be able to do a speed
test correctly which seemed odd.

I 've had the new version for a few hours and just now tried to start
the default profile (after reading at Mozillazine forums that someone
lost their history on their very old default profile but their newer
profile on 2.48 was fine).  My history is fine on the newer profile
(only goes back to January 2017 while history on the default profile
goes back as many years as SeaMonkey can keep) but when I tried to start
the default profile by switching profiles within SeaMonkey, it would not
open.  I get a SeaMonkey icon in the task bar but it will not start.  It
is a VERY OLD profile (MANY YEARS) and, yes, I backed it up before
installing 2.48.

How do I get SeaMonkey to start in the newer, working profile?  I
suspect the older, default one is not salvageable (as the poster at
Mozillazine thinks about his).  This should not have happened though and
I blame it on the fact that I could NOT update internally. I have not,
on any gecko browser, had good results with being forced to install a
new version rather than update internally.



Windows 7
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.48

I just now ran the DSLReports speed test without any problem.  I am
using the same profile that I used with prior SeaMonkey versions; some
of the files in my profile are over 10 years old.

To start SeaMonkey in a specific profile:

1.  Create a shortcut to the SeaMonkey executable (seamonkey.exe).

2.  Open the properties of the shortcut.

3.  In the Target area of the Properties window, add
-p xxx
where "xxx" is the profile's name (not the name of the profile folder,
but the name you gave the profile).  For my primary profile named David,
it looks like
"C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe" -p David


Thanks!  I vaguely remember now doing that a long time ago.  I have 
Windows 8.0 Pro and Start8 but even it doesn't make the Windows Start 
Menu enjoyable so I avoid using it and when I wrote the above, I had not 
thought about looking at SeaMonkey there (I access SeaMonkey via Quick 
Start menu).  So, today I clicked on SeaMonkey in the Start 8 Start Menu 
and saw Profile Manager, opened it and switched to the newer profile 
which started just fine.

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Re: Default profile in 2.48 will not start

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

If you have a backup remove the following files and folders from this profile 
and see if it comes up:


Folders:
storage
crashes
minidumps
webapps

Files:
webappsstore.*
xulstore.json

Might also be extension related if its really old so try starting in safe mode.

FRG

Desiree wrote:
I've mostly been using a newer profile since January 2017 and was using it 
when I shut SeaMonkey down and then installed 2.48 and restarted SeaMonkey.  
It was fine on this profile except it could not do a speed test at dslreports 
(or anywhere) and get the usual speed.  It would get an extremely low download 
speed (other browsers got normal speed).  I had to reboot the computer for 
SeaMonkey 2.48 to be able to do a speed test correctly which seemed odd.


I 've had the new version for a few hours and just now tried to start the 
default profile (after reading at Mozillazine forums that someone lost their 
history on their very old default profile but their newer profile on 2.48 was 
fine).  My history is fine on the newer profile (only goes back to January 
2017 while history on the default profile goes back as many years as SeaMonkey 
can keep) but when I tried to start the default profile by switching profiles 
within SeaMonkey, it would not open.  I get a SeaMonkey icon in the task bar 
but it will not start.  It is a VERY OLD profile (MANY YEARS) and, yes, I 
backed it up before installing 2.48.


How do I get SeaMonkey to start in the newer, working profile?  I suspect the 
older, default one is not salvageable (as the poster at Mozillazine thinks 
about his).  This should not have happened though and I blame it on the fact 
that I could NOT update internally. I have not, on any gecko browser, had good 
results with being forced to install a new version rather than update internally.

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Re: Default profile in 2.48 will not start

[David E. Ross]

On 8/1/2017 5:31 AM, Desiree wrote:
> I've mostly been using a newer profile since January 2017 and was using 
> it when I shut SeaMonkey down and then installed 2.48 and restarted 
> SeaMonkey.  It was fine on this profile except it could not do a speed 
> test at dslreports (or anywhere) and get the usual speed.  It would get 
> an extremely low download speed (other browsers got normal speed).  I 
> had to reboot the computer for SeaMonkey 2.48 to be able to do a speed 
> test correctly which seemed odd.
> 
> I 've had the new version for a few hours and just now tried to start 
> the default profile (after reading at Mozillazine forums that someone 
> lost their history on their very old default profile but their newer 
> profile on 2.48 was fine).  My history is fine on the newer profile 
> (only goes back to January 2017 while history on the default profile 
> goes back as many years as SeaMonkey can keep) but when I tried to start 
> the default profile by switching profiles within SeaMonkey, it would not 
> open.  I get a SeaMonkey icon in the task bar but it will not start.  It 
> is a VERY OLD profile (MANY YEARS) and, yes, I backed it up before 
> installing 2.48.
> 
> How do I get SeaMonkey to start in the newer, working profile?  I 
> suspect the older, default one is not salvageable (as the poster at 
> Mozillazine thinks about his).  This should not have happened though and 
> I blame it on the fact that I could NOT update internally. I have not, 
> on any gecko browser, had good results with being forced to install a 
> new version rather than update internally.
> 

Windows 7
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.48

I just now ran the DSLReports speed test without any problem.  I am
using the same profile that I used with prior SeaMonkey versions; some
of the files in my profile are over 10 years old.

To start SeaMonkey in a specific profile:

1.  Create a shortcut to the SeaMonkey executable (seamonkey.exe).

2.  Open the properties of the shortcut.

3.  In the Target area of the Properties window, add
-p xxx
where "xxx" is the profile's name (not the name of the profile folder,
but the name you gave the profile).  For my primary profile named David,
it looks like
"C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe" -p David

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of Congress.  I always thought that members of Congress -- House
and Senate -- were required to be loyal to the people of the
United States.  In any case, they all swore an oath of office
to be loyal to the Constitution.
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Default profile in 2.48 will not start

[Desiree]

I've mostly been using a newer profile since January 2017 and was using 
it when I shut SeaMonkey down and then installed 2.48 and restarted 
SeaMonkey.  It was fine on this profile except it could not do a speed 
test at dslreports (or anywhere) and get the usual speed.  It would get 
an extremely low download speed (other browsers got normal speed).  I 
had to reboot the computer for SeaMonkey 2.48 to be able to do a speed 
test correctly which seemed odd.


I 've had the new version for a few hours and just now tried to start 
the default profile (after reading at Mozillazine forums that someone 
lost their history on their very old default profile but their newer 
profile on 2.48 was fine).  My history is fine on the newer profile 
(only goes back to January 2017 while history on the default profile 
goes back as many years as SeaMonkey can keep) but when I tried to start 
the default profile by switching profiles within SeaMonkey, it would not 
open.  I get a SeaMonkey icon in the task bar but it will not start.  It 
is a VERY OLD profile (MANY YEARS) and, yes, I backed it up before 
installing 2.48.


How do I get SeaMonkey to start in the newer, working profile?  I 
suspect the older, default one is not salvageable (as the poster at 
Mozillazine thinks about his).  This should not have happened though and 
I blame it on the fact that I could NOT update internally. I have not, 
on any gecko browser, had good results with being forced to install a 
new version rather than update internally.

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