Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

2018-03-21 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey

Hello.

I got a HTML e-mail with its hidden section when using plain text mode. 
It only shows up in HTML mode (both original and simple). The section was


   
style="display:inline-block;padding:5px;background:#f5f5f5;border:1px 
solid #ccc"

target="_blank"

href="http://CXTSoftware.recruiterbox.com/questionnaires/fb035u1/";>
CXT Software Applicant Questions for Employment 
Consideration Form








Shouldn't this part be shown in plain text too? Maybe a bug? :(

Thank you in advance. :)
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Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

2018-03-22 Thread nunojsilva
On 2018-03-22, Ant wrote:

> Hello.
>
> I got a HTML e-mail with its hidden section when using plain text
> mode. It only shows up in HTML mode (both original and simple). The
> section was
>
>
>  style="display:inline-block;padding:5px;background:#f5f5f5;border:1px
> solid #ccc"
> target="_blank"
>
> href="http://CXTSoftware.recruiterbox.com/questionnaires/fb035u1/";>
> CXT Software Applicant Questions for Employment
> Consideration Form
> 
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> Shouldn't this part be shown in plain text too? Maybe a bug? :(
>
> Thank you in advance. :)

The e-mail you received may have a text/plain alternate part that does
not really contain the entire content of the HTML part. If that is the
case, the bug is on the e-mail client which was used to send the message
(or the sender) and not in Seamonkey.

Try to inspect the raw source of the message (ctrl+U), look for a
text/plain part and check its contents. It may be base64-encoded,
though.

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Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

2018-03-22 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey

On 3/22/2018 2:27 AM, (Nuno Silva) wrote:

On 2018-03-22, Ant wrote:


Hello.

I got a HTML e-mail with its hidden section when using plain text
mode. It only shows up in HTML mode (both original and simple). The
section was


 http://CXTSoftware.recruiterbox.com/questionnaires/fb035u1/";>
 CXT Software Applicant Questions for Employment
Consideration Form
 
 


 


Shouldn't this part be shown in plain text too? Maybe a bug? :(

Thank you in advance. :)


The e-mail you received may have a text/plain alternate part that does
not really contain the entire content of the HTML part. If that is the
case, the bug is on the e-mail client which was used to send the message
(or the sender) and not in Seamonkey.

Try to inspect the raw source of the message (ctrl+U), look for a
text/plain part and check its contents. It may be base64-encoded,
though.


Ah, I will check again later. Thanks. :)
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Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

2018-03-22 Thread EE

(Nuno Silva) wrote:

On 2018-03-22, Ant wrote:


Hello.

I got a HTML e-mail with its hidden section when using plain text
mode. It only shows up in HTML mode (both original and simple). The
section was


 http://CXTSoftware.recruiterbox.com/questionnaires/fb035u1/";>
 CXT Software Applicant Questions for Employment
Consideration Form
 
 


 


Shouldn't this part be shown in plain text too? Maybe a bug? :(

Thank you in advance. :)


The e-mail you received may have a text/plain alternate part that does
not really contain the entire content of the HTML part. If that is the
case, the bug is on the e-mail client which was used to send the message
(or the sender) and not in Seamonkey.

Try to inspect the raw source of the message (ctrl+U), look for a
text/plain part and check its contents. It may be base64-encoded,
though.

I thought that the only part of HTML code preserved in messages 
converted to plain text were tags for links?


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Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

2018-03-27 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey

I got a HTML e-mail with its hidden section when using plain text
mode. It only shows up in HTML mode (both original and simple). The
section was

    
 http://CXTSoftware.recruiterbox.com/questionnaires/fb035u/";>
 CXT Software Applicant Questions for Employment
Consideration Form
 
 


 


Shouldn't this part be shown in plain text too? Maybe a bug? :(

Thank you in advance. :)


The e-mail you received may have a text/plain alternate part that does
not really contain the entire content of the HTML part. If that is the
case, the bug is on the e-mail client which was used to send the message
(or the sender) and not in Seamonkey.

Try to inspect the raw source of the message (ctrl+U), look for a
text/plain part and check its contents. It may be base64-encoded,
though.


Ah, I will check again later. Thanks. :)


I got another e-mail and searched:

--b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi ...


--b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b
Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

...


So, the sender is sending both HTML and plain text formats in a single 
e-mail. Interesting!

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Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

2018-03-27 Thread Daniel

Ant wrote on 27/03/18 17:58:

I got a HTML e-mail with its hidden section when using plain text
mode. It only shows up in HTML mode (both original and simple). The
section was

    
 http://CXTSoftware.recruiterbox.com/questionnaires/fb035u/";>
 CXT Software Applicant Questions for Employment
Consideration Form
 
 


 


Shouldn't this part be shown in plain text too? Maybe a bug? :(

Thank you in advance. :)


The e-mail you received may have a text/plain alternate part that does
not really contain the entire content of the HTML part. If that is the
case, the bug is on the e-mail client which was used to send the message
(or the sender) and not in Seamonkey.

Try to inspect the raw source of the message (ctrl+U), look for a
text/plain part and check its contents. It may be base64-encoded,
though.


Ah, I will check again later. Thanks. :)


I got another e-mail and searched:

--b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi ...


--b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b
Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

...


So, the sender is sending both HTML and plain text formats in a single 
e-mail. Interesting!


That is definitely possible, Ant. I think there is a setting in SM to 
send both formats so those who like "Text only" are satisfied as are 
those that like all the bells and whistles of HTML.


Ah!! There you go ... Edit->Preferences->Mail & Newsgroups->Send Format, 
fourth selection.

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

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Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

2018-03-27 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey

On 3/27/2018 1:36 AM, Daniel wrote:

Ant wrote on 27/03/18 17:58:

I got a HTML e-mail with its hidden section when using plain text
mode. It only shows up in HTML mode (both original and simple). The
section was

    
 http://CXTSoftware.recruiterbox.com/questionnaires/fb035u/";>
 CXT Software Applicant Questions for Employment
Consideration Form
 
 


 


Shouldn't this part be shown in plain text too? Maybe a bug? :(

Thank you in advance. :)


The e-mail you received may have a text/plain alternate part that does
not really contain the entire content of the HTML part. If that is the
case, the bug is on the e-mail client which was used to send the 
message

(or the sender) and not in Seamonkey.

Try to inspect the raw source of the message (ctrl+U), look for a
text/plain part and check its contents. It may be base64-encoded,
though.


Ah, I will check again later. Thanks. :)


I got another e-mail and searched:

--b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi ...


--b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b
Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

...


So, the sender is sending both HTML and plain text formats in a single 
e-mail. Interesting!


That is definitely possible, Ant. I think there is a setting in SM to 
send both formats so those who like "Text only" are satisfied as are 
those that like all the bells and whistles of HTML.


Ah!! There you go ... Edit->Preferences->Mail & Newsgroups->Send Format, 
fourth selection.


Thanks. Darn, I wished senders would include the same informations in 
both formats in their single e-mails. Argh. I keep seeing missing datas 
in plain text formats while their HTML formats show more. :(

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Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

2018-03-27 Thread EE

Daniel wrote:

Ant wrote on 27/03/18 17:58:

I got a HTML e-mail with its hidden section when using plain text
mode. It only shows up in HTML mode (both original and simple). The
section was

    
 http://CXTSoftware.recruiterbox.com/questionnaires/fb035u/";>
 CXT Software Applicant Questions for Employment
Consideration Form
 
 


 


Shouldn't this part be shown in plain text too? Maybe a bug? :(

Thank you in advance. :)


The e-mail you received may have a text/plain alternate part that does
not really contain the entire content of the HTML part. If that is the
case, the bug is on the e-mail client which was used to send the 
message

(or the sender) and not in Seamonkey.

Try to inspect the raw source of the message (ctrl+U), look for a
text/plain part and check its contents. It may be base64-encoded,
though.


Ah, I will check again later. Thanks. :)


I got another e-mail and searched:

--b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi ...


--b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b
Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

...


So, the sender is sending both HTML and plain text formats in a single 
e-mail. Interesting!


That is definitely possible, Ant. I think there is a setting in SM to 
send both formats so those who like "Text only" are satisfied as are 
those that like all the bells and whistles of HTML.


Ah!! There you go ... Edit->Preferences->Mail & Newsgroups->Send Format, 
fourth selection.


I have had to re-educate business organizations who insist on sending 
multipart email to put something useful into the plain text part of the 
message, since that is the only part I would see.  Some of them actually 
learned!


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Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

2018-03-27 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey

...> I have had to re-educate business organizations who insist on sending
multipart email to put something useful into the plain text part of the 
message, since that is the only part I would see.  Some of them actually 
learned!


I kindly e-mail back that I don't see that information, but they insist 
it is my fault and to use a better e-mail client. :(

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Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

2018-03-27 Thread Daniel

EE wrote on 28/03/18 06:01:

Daniel wrote:

Ant wrote on 27/03/18 17:58:

I got a HTML e-mail with its hidden section when using plain text
mode. It only shows up in HTML mode (both original and simple). The
section was

    
 http://CXTSoftware.recruiterbox.com/questionnaires/fb035u/";>
 CXT Software Applicant Questions for Employment
Consideration Form
 
 


 


Shouldn't this part be shown in plain text too? Maybe a bug? :(

Thank you in advance. :)


The e-mail you received may have a text/plain alternate part that does
not really contain the entire content of the HTML part. If that is the
case, the bug is on the e-mail client which was used to send the 
message

(or the sender) and not in Seamonkey.

Try to inspect the raw source of the message (ctrl+U), look for a
text/plain part and check its contents. It may be base64-encoded,
though.


Ah, I will check again later. Thanks. :)


I got another e-mail and searched:

--b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi ...


--b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b
Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

...


So, the sender is sending both HTML and plain text formats in a 
single e-mail. Interesting!


That is definitely possible, Ant. I think there is a setting in SM to 
send both formats so those who like "Text only" are satisfied as are 
those that like all the bells and whistles of HTML.


Ah!! There you go ... Edit->Preferences->Mail & Newsgroups->Send 
Format, fourth selection.


I have had to re-educate business organizations who insist on sending 
multipart email to put something useful into the plain text part of the 
message, since that is the only part I would see.  Some of them actually 
learned!


One has to wonder why "they" would bother sending the text portion if 
they are not going to put anything in the text portion!! ;-(


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
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Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

2018-03-28 Thread Ray_Net

Ant wrote on 28-03-18 06:13:
...> I have had to re-educate business organizations who insist on 
sending
multipart email to put something useful into the plain text part of 
the message, since that is the only part I would see.  Some of them 
actually learned!


I kindly e-mail back that I don't see that information, but they 
insist it is my fault and to use a better e-mail client. :(


This is their fault, but they don't care YOU MUST ACCEPT, DISPLAY AND 
READ THE HTML PART !

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Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

2018-03-28 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey

On 3/28/2018 1:25 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 28-03-18 06:13:
...> I have had to re-educate business organizations who insist on 
sending
multipart email to put something useful into the plain text part of 
the message, since that is the only part I would see.  Some of them 
actually learned!


I kindly e-mail back that I don't see that information, but they 
insist it is my fault and to use a better e-mail client. :(


This is their fault, but they don't care YOU MUST ACCEPT, DISPLAY AND 
READ THE HTML PART !


Yeah, it sucks. I am seeing this happening more and more recently. Has 
anyone noticed it too or just me?

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Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

2018-03-28 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey

On 3/27/2018 9:55 PM, Daniel wrote:
...
I have had to re-educate business organizations who insist on sending 
multipart email to put something useful into the plain text part of 
the message, since that is the only part I would see.  Some of them 
actually learned!


One has to wonder why "they" would bother sending the text portion if 
they are not going to put anything in the text portion!! ;-(


They do put something in it, just not everything. :(
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Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

2018-03-28 Thread Ray_Net

Ant wrote on 28-03-18 11:46:

On 3/28/2018 1:25 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 28-03-18 06:13:
...> I have had to re-educate business organizations who insist on 
sending
multipart email to put something useful into the plain text part of 
the message, since that is the only part I would see.  Some of them 
actually learned!


I kindly e-mail back that I don't see that information, but they 
insist it is my fault and to use a better e-mail client. :(


This is their fault, but they don't care YOU MUST ACCEPT, DISPLAY AND 
READ THE HTML PART !


Yeah, it sucks. I am seeing this happening more and more recently. Has 
anyone noticed it too or just me?


Not only you .. more and more people use "webmail" where I think that 
it's basically in html mode.

Evenwhile they don't use colors or other fancy gadgets :-)
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Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

2018-03-28 Thread EE

Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 28-03-18 06:13:
...> I have had to re-educate business organizations who insist on 
sending
multipart email to put something useful into the plain text part of 
the message, since that is the only part I would see.  Some of them 
actually learned!


I kindly e-mail back that I don't see that information, but they 
insist it is my fault and to use a better e-mail client. :(


This is their fault, but they don't care YOU MUST ACCEPT, DISPLAY AND 
READ THE HTML PART !


Now, a lot of those people put a link in the plain text part of the 
message and that leads to a web page, which will open in a browser. 
That works for me.  I also informed the multipart senders that I would 
delete the mail as junk if I saw nothing useful in the part I could read.


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Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

2018-03-28 Thread Ray_Net

EE wrote on 28-03-18 18:27:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 28-03-18 06:13:
...> I have had to re-educate business organizations who insist on 
sending
multipart email to put something useful into the plain text part of 
the message, since that is the only part I would see.  Some of them 
actually learned!


I kindly e-mail back that I don't see that information, but they 
insist it is my fault and to use a better e-mail client. :(


This is their fault, but they don't care YOU MUST ACCEPT, DISPLAY AND 
READ THE HTML PART !


Now, a lot of those people put a link in the plain text part of the 
message and that leads to a web page, which will open in a browser. 
That works for me.  I also informed the multipart senders that I would 
delete the mail as junk if I saw nothing useful in the part I could read.


Most people did not understand what are your requirements. If some 
understand it, they don't know how to fulfill your requirements.
Personnaly, when it's possible I write in plain text - but I read in 
HTML if the mail contain an html part.

So I don't have problems.
My only reaction is when the sender put at the end of his mail a 
spam-part like:

- Written with SeaMonkey (under Windows 10)
- Verified without virus by McAfee LiveSafe
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Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

2018-03-29 Thread EE

Ray_Net wrote:

EE wrote on 28-03-18 18:27:

Ray_Net wrote:

Now, a lot of those people put a link in the plain text part of the 
message and that leads to a web page, which will open in a browser. 
That works for me.  I also informed the multipart senders that I would 
delete the mail as junk if I saw nothing useful in the part I could read.


Most people did not understand what are your requirements. If some 
understand it, they don't know how to fulfill your requirements.
Personnaly, when it's possible I write in plain text - but I read in 
HTML if the mail contain an html part.

So I don't have problems.
My only reaction is when the sender put at the end of his mail a 
spam-part like:

- Written with SeaMonkey (under Windows 10)
- Verified without virus by McAfee LiveSafe


If people know enough to send email as multipart, they know enough to 
put something in both parts of it.  I have managed to educate most of 
the organizations that contact me to do that.


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Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

2018-03-29 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

EE wrote:

If people know enough to send email as multipart, they know enough to 
put something in both parts of it.  I have managed to educate most of 
the organizations that contact me to do that.


You don't need to know anything, really. All you have to do is set your 
program to do it, and the rest is automatic.


What's hard is to send two parts with different content. They must have 
gone to some special effort to accomplish that.


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