Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?
Hello. I got a HTML e-mail with its hidden section when using plain text mode. It only shows up in HTML mode (both original and simple). The section was style="display:inline-block;padding:5px;background:#f5f5f5;border:1px solid #ccc" target="_blank" href="http://CXTSoftware.recruiterbox.com/questionnaires/fb035u1/";> CXT Software Applicant Questions for Employment Consideration Form Shouldn't this part be shown in plain text too? Maybe a bug? :( Thank you in advance. :) -- "Even the ant has his (her) bite." --Turkish Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ Personal Web Site http://antfarm.ma.cx / /\ /\ \ | |o o| | If crediting, then use Ant nickname and URL/link. \ _ / Axe ANT from its address if e-mailing privately. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?
On 2018-03-22, Ant wrote: > Hello. > > I got a HTML e-mail with its hidden section when using plain text > mode. It only shows up in HTML mode (both original and simple). The > section was > > > style="display:inline-block;padding:5px;background:#f5f5f5;border:1px > solid #ccc" > target="_blank" > > href="http://CXTSoftware.recruiterbox.com/questionnaires/fb035u1/";> > CXT Software Applicant Questions for Employment > Consideration Form > > > > > > > > Shouldn't this part be shown in plain text too? Maybe a bug? :( > > Thank you in advance. :) The e-mail you received may have a text/plain alternate part that does not really contain the entire content of the HTML part. If that is the case, the bug is on the e-mail client which was used to send the message (or the sender) and not in Seamonkey. Try to inspect the raw source of the message (ctrl+U), look for a text/plain part and check its contents. It may be base64-encoded, though. -- Nuno Silva ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?
On 3/22/2018 2:27 AM, (Nuno Silva) wrote: On 2018-03-22, Ant wrote: Hello. I got a HTML e-mail with its hidden section when using plain text mode. It only shows up in HTML mode (both original and simple). The section was http://CXTSoftware.recruiterbox.com/questionnaires/fb035u1/";> CXT Software Applicant Questions for Employment Consideration Form Shouldn't this part be shown in plain text too? Maybe a bug? :( Thank you in advance. :) The e-mail you received may have a text/plain alternate part that does not really contain the entire content of the HTML part. If that is the case, the bug is on the e-mail client which was used to send the message (or the sender) and not in Seamonkey. Try to inspect the raw source of the message (ctrl+U), look for a text/plain part and check its contents. It may be base64-encoded, though. Ah, I will check again later. Thanks. :) -- "I do not believe that the Great Society is the ordered, changeless and sterile battalion of the ants. It is the excitement of becoming--always becoming, trying, probing, falling, resting and trying again--but always trying and always gaining. In each generation--with toil and tears--we have had to earn our heritage again." --Lyndon B. Johnson Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ Personal Web Site http://antfarm.ma.cx / /\ /\ \ | |o o| | If crediting, then use Ant nickname and URL/link. \ _ / Axe ANT from its address if e-mailing privately. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?
(Nuno Silva) wrote: On 2018-03-22, Ant wrote: Hello. I got a HTML e-mail with its hidden section when using plain text mode. It only shows up in HTML mode (both original and simple). The section was http://CXTSoftware.recruiterbox.com/questionnaires/fb035u1/";> CXT Software Applicant Questions for Employment Consideration Form Shouldn't this part be shown in plain text too? Maybe a bug? :( Thank you in advance. :) The e-mail you received may have a text/plain alternate part that does not really contain the entire content of the HTML part. If that is the case, the bug is on the e-mail client which was used to send the message (or the sender) and not in Seamonkey. Try to inspect the raw source of the message (ctrl+U), look for a text/plain part and check its contents. It may be base64-encoded, though. I thought that the only part of HTML code preserved in messages converted to plain text were tags for links? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?
I got a HTML e-mail with its hidden section when using plain text mode. It only shows up in HTML mode (both original and simple). The section was http://CXTSoftware.recruiterbox.com/questionnaires/fb035u/";> CXT Software Applicant Questions for Employment Consideration Form Shouldn't this part be shown in plain text too? Maybe a bug? :( Thank you in advance. :) The e-mail you received may have a text/plain alternate part that does not really contain the entire content of the HTML part. If that is the case, the bug is on the e-mail client which was used to send the message (or the sender) and not in Seamonkey. Try to inspect the raw source of the message (ctrl+U), look for a text/plain part and check its contents. It may be base64-encoded, though. Ah, I will check again later. Thanks. :) I got another e-mail and searched: --b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi ... --b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ... So, the sender is sending both HTML and plain text formats in a single e-mail. Interesting! -- "Ants can lift up to 50 times their own weight. And your monitor is missing. Time to bring out the bugspray." --BBspot's Geek Horoscopes (2/28/2003) Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ Personal Web Site http://antfarm.ma.cx / /\ /\ \ | |o o| | If crediting, then use Ant nickname and URL/link. \ _ / Axe ANT from its address if e-mailing privately. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?
Ant wrote on 27/03/18 17:58: I got a HTML e-mail with its hidden section when using plain text mode. It only shows up in HTML mode (both original and simple). The section was http://CXTSoftware.recruiterbox.com/questionnaires/fb035u/";> CXT Software Applicant Questions for Employment Consideration Form Shouldn't this part be shown in plain text too? Maybe a bug? :( Thank you in advance. :) The e-mail you received may have a text/plain alternate part that does not really contain the entire content of the HTML part. If that is the case, the bug is on the e-mail client which was used to send the message (or the sender) and not in Seamonkey. Try to inspect the raw source of the message (ctrl+U), look for a text/plain part and check its contents. It may be base64-encoded, though. Ah, I will check again later. Thanks. :) I got another e-mail and searched: --b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi ... --b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ... So, the sender is sending both HTML and plain text formats in a single e-mail. Interesting! That is definitely possible, Ant. I think there is a setting in SM to send both formats so those who like "Text only" are satisfied as are those that like all the bells and whistles of HTML. Ah!! There you go ... Edit->Preferences->Mail & Newsgroups->Send Format, fourth selection. -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?
On 3/27/2018 1:36 AM, Daniel wrote: Ant wrote on 27/03/18 17:58: I got a HTML e-mail with its hidden section when using plain text mode. It only shows up in HTML mode (both original and simple). The section was http://CXTSoftware.recruiterbox.com/questionnaires/fb035u/";> CXT Software Applicant Questions for Employment Consideration Form Shouldn't this part be shown in plain text too? Maybe a bug? :( Thank you in advance. :) The e-mail you received may have a text/plain alternate part that does not really contain the entire content of the HTML part. If that is the case, the bug is on the e-mail client which was used to send the message (or the sender) and not in Seamonkey. Try to inspect the raw source of the message (ctrl+U), look for a text/plain part and check its contents. It may be base64-encoded, though. Ah, I will check again later. Thanks. :) I got another e-mail and searched: --b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi ... --b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ... So, the sender is sending both HTML and plain text formats in a single e-mail. Interesting! That is definitely possible, Ant. I think there is a setting in SM to send both formats so those who like "Text only" are satisfied as are those that like all the bells and whistles of HTML. Ah!! There you go ... Edit->Preferences->Mail & Newsgroups->Send Format, fourth selection. Thanks. Darn, I wished senders would include the same informations in both formats in their single e-mails. Argh. I keep seeing missing datas in plain text formats while their HTML formats show more. :( -- Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ Personal Web Site http://antfarm.ma.cx / /\ /\ \ | |o o| | If crediting, then use Ant nickname and URL/link. \ _ / Axe ANT from its address if e-mailing privately. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?
Daniel wrote: Ant wrote on 27/03/18 17:58: I got a HTML e-mail with its hidden section when using plain text mode. It only shows up in HTML mode (both original and simple). The section was http://CXTSoftware.recruiterbox.com/questionnaires/fb035u/";> CXT Software Applicant Questions for Employment Consideration Form Shouldn't this part be shown in plain text too? Maybe a bug? :( Thank you in advance. :) The e-mail you received may have a text/plain alternate part that does not really contain the entire content of the HTML part. If that is the case, the bug is on the e-mail client which was used to send the message (or the sender) and not in Seamonkey. Try to inspect the raw source of the message (ctrl+U), look for a text/plain part and check its contents. It may be base64-encoded, though. Ah, I will check again later. Thanks. :) I got another e-mail and searched: --b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi ... --b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ... So, the sender is sending both HTML and plain text formats in a single e-mail. Interesting! That is definitely possible, Ant. I think there is a setting in SM to send both formats so those who like "Text only" are satisfied as are those that like all the bells and whistles of HTML. Ah!! There you go ... Edit->Preferences->Mail & Newsgroups->Send Format, fourth selection. I have had to re-educate business organizations who insist on sending multipart email to put something useful into the plain text part of the message, since that is the only part I would see. Some of them actually learned! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?
...> I have had to re-educate business organizations who insist on sending multipart email to put something useful into the plain text part of the message, since that is the only part I would see. Some of them actually learned! I kindly e-mail back that I don't see that information, but they insist it is my fault and to use a better e-mail client. :( -- "Even the sharpest ear cannot hear an ant singing." --Sudanese Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ Personal Web Site http://antfarm.ma.cx / /\ /\ \ | |o o| | If crediting, then use Ant nickname and URL/link. \ _ / Axe ANT from its address if e-mailing privately. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?
EE wrote on 28/03/18 06:01: Daniel wrote: Ant wrote on 27/03/18 17:58: I got a HTML e-mail with its hidden section when using plain text mode. It only shows up in HTML mode (both original and simple). The section was http://CXTSoftware.recruiterbox.com/questionnaires/fb035u/";> CXT Software Applicant Questions for Employment Consideration Form Shouldn't this part be shown in plain text too? Maybe a bug? :( Thank you in advance. :) The e-mail you received may have a text/plain alternate part that does not really contain the entire content of the HTML part. If that is the case, the bug is on the e-mail client which was used to send the message (or the sender) and not in Seamonkey. Try to inspect the raw source of the message (ctrl+U), look for a text/plain part and check its contents. It may be base64-encoded, though. Ah, I will check again later. Thanks. :) I got another e-mail and searched: --b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi ... --b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ... So, the sender is sending both HTML and plain text formats in a single e-mail. Interesting! That is definitely possible, Ant. I think there is a setting in SM to send both formats so those who like "Text only" are satisfied as are those that like all the bells and whistles of HTML. Ah!! There you go ... Edit->Preferences->Mail & Newsgroups->Send Format, fourth selection. I have had to re-educate business organizations who insist on sending multipart email to put something useful into the plain text part of the message, since that is the only part I would see. Some of them actually learned! One has to wonder why "they" would bother sending the text portion if they are not going to put anything in the text portion!! ;-( -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?
Ant wrote on 28-03-18 06:13: ...> I have had to re-educate business organizations who insist on sending multipart email to put something useful into the plain text part of the message, since that is the only part I would see. Some of them actually learned! I kindly e-mail back that I don't see that information, but they insist it is my fault and to use a better e-mail client. :( This is their fault, but they don't care YOU MUST ACCEPT, DISPLAY AND READ THE HTML PART ! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?
On 3/28/2018 1:25 AM, Ray_Net wrote: Ant wrote on 28-03-18 06:13: ...> I have had to re-educate business organizations who insist on sending multipart email to put something useful into the plain text part of the message, since that is the only part I would see. Some of them actually learned! I kindly e-mail back that I don't see that information, but they insist it is my fault and to use a better e-mail client. :( This is their fault, but they don't care YOU MUST ACCEPT, DISPLAY AND READ THE HTML PART ! Yeah, it sucks. I am seeing this happening more and more recently. Has anyone noticed it too or just me? -- "I love ants. Do they have uncles? Ha Ha!" --Elmo from Sesame Street (unknown episode) Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ Personal Web Site http://antfarm.ma.cx / /\ /\ \ | |o o| | If crediting, then use Ant nickname and URL/link. \ _ / Axe ANT from its address if e-mailing privately. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?
On 3/27/2018 9:55 PM, Daniel wrote: ... I have had to re-educate business organizations who insist on sending multipart email to put something useful into the plain text part of the message, since that is the only part I would see. Some of them actually learned! One has to wonder why "they" would bother sending the text portion if they are not going to put anything in the text portion!! ;-( They do put something in it, just not everything. :( -- "Remember when walking down the road of life, always stop and squish the ants." --Albian in Creatures game Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ Personal Web Site http://antfarm.ma.cx / /\ /\ \ | |o o| | If crediting, then use Ant nickname and URL/link. \ _ / Axe ANT from its address if e-mailing privately. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?
Ant wrote on 28-03-18 11:46: On 3/28/2018 1:25 AM, Ray_Net wrote: Ant wrote on 28-03-18 06:13: ...> I have had to re-educate business organizations who insist on sending multipart email to put something useful into the plain text part of the message, since that is the only part I would see. Some of them actually learned! I kindly e-mail back that I don't see that information, but they insist it is my fault and to use a better e-mail client. :( This is their fault, but they don't care YOU MUST ACCEPT, DISPLAY AND READ THE HTML PART ! Yeah, it sucks. I am seeing this happening more and more recently. Has anyone noticed it too or just me? Not only you .. more and more people use "webmail" where I think that it's basically in html mode. Evenwhile they don't use colors or other fancy gadgets :-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?
Ray_Net wrote: Ant wrote on 28-03-18 06:13: ...> I have had to re-educate business organizations who insist on sending multipart email to put something useful into the plain text part of the message, since that is the only part I would see. Some of them actually learned! I kindly e-mail back that I don't see that information, but they insist it is my fault and to use a better e-mail client. :( This is their fault, but they don't care YOU MUST ACCEPT, DISPLAY AND READ THE HTML PART ! Now, a lot of those people put a link in the plain text part of the message and that leads to a web page, which will open in a browser. That works for me. I also informed the multipart senders that I would delete the mail as junk if I saw nothing useful in the part I could read. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?
EE wrote on 28-03-18 18:27: Ray_Net wrote: Ant wrote on 28-03-18 06:13: ...> I have had to re-educate business organizations who insist on sending multipart email to put something useful into the plain text part of the message, since that is the only part I would see. Some of them actually learned! I kindly e-mail back that I don't see that information, but they insist it is my fault and to use a better e-mail client. :( This is their fault, but they don't care YOU MUST ACCEPT, DISPLAY AND READ THE HTML PART ! Now, a lot of those people put a link in the plain text part of the message and that leads to a web page, which will open in a browser. That works for me. I also informed the multipart senders that I would delete the mail as junk if I saw nothing useful in the part I could read. Most people did not understand what are your requirements. If some understand it, they don't know how to fulfill your requirements. Personnaly, when it's possible I write in plain text - but I read in HTML if the mail contain an html part. So I don't have problems. My only reaction is when the sender put at the end of his mail a spam-part like: - Written with SeaMonkey (under Windows 10) - Verified without virus by McAfee LiveSafe ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?
Ray_Net wrote: EE wrote on 28-03-18 18:27: Ray_Net wrote: Now, a lot of those people put a link in the plain text part of the message and that leads to a web page, which will open in a browser. That works for me. I also informed the multipart senders that I would delete the mail as junk if I saw nothing useful in the part I could read. Most people did not understand what are your requirements. If some understand it, they don't know how to fulfill your requirements. Personnaly, when it's possible I write in plain text - but I read in HTML if the mail contain an html part. So I don't have problems. My only reaction is when the sender put at the end of his mail a spam-part like: - Written with SeaMonkey (under Windows 10) - Verified without virus by McAfee LiveSafe If people know enough to send email as multipart, they know enough to put something in both parts of it. I have managed to educate most of the organizations that contact me to do that. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?
EE wrote: If people know enough to send email as multipart, they know enough to put something in both parts of it. I have managed to educate most of the organizations that contact me to do that. You don't need to know anything, really. All you have to do is set your program to do it, and the rest is automatic. What's hard is to send two parts with different content. They must have gone to some special effort to accomplish that. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey