Re: Forms Fill

[Rick Merrill]

Philip Chee wrote:

On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 08:44:27 -0500, Rick Merrill wrote:


I have found each web site uses different FIELD names for credit cards.
SM 2 allows named fields to be purged upon exit, but it is NOT automatic.

I don't see how s/w could tell the difference ;-) between a credit card number 
and a
USPS/UPS/FEDX tracking number (-:




You detect any 15/16 digit number that uses a cyclic redundancy check
(weren't you lecturing Callek on CRCs earlier?) based on the Luhn
algorithm. If you do it right you can also catch (and not save) Social
Security numbers and other sensitive information.

Phil



You may be able to do CRC in your head, but I do not seem to be able to do it!-)

Callek said "Cycle..." so I  looked it up thinking it might be a new term, but it was 
not. So I hope he & you didn't REally think I was "lecturing."


I'm willing to bet that thousands of people do not realize that SM has retained the 
types of information it keeps under "forms" but are actually "fields."





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Re: Forms Fill

[Philip Chee]

On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 08:44:27 -0500, Rick Merrill wrote:

> I have found each web site uses different FIELD names for credit cards.
> SM 2 allows named fields to be purged upon exit, but it is NOT automatic.
> 
> I don't see how s/w could tell the difference ;-) between a credit card 
> number and a 
> USPS/UPS/FEDX tracking number (-:



You detect any 15/16 digit number that uses a cyclic redundancy check
(weren't you lecturing Callek on CRCs earlier?) based on the Luhn
algorithm. If you do it right you can also catch (and not save) Social
Security numbers and other sensitive information.

Phil

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Re: Forms Fill

[Rick Merrill]

Philip Chee wrote:

On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 06:33:53 -0500, Rick Merrill wrote:


I find the new form fill very useful.

BUT when I use "Form History Control" I can see all my credit card information 
and
any values ever entered for any FIELD. Yes, I can delete items that should be
protected or are no longer needed.

I repeat: this seems like a BIG security hole to have Credit Card FIELDS data 
stored.


I *think* that on trunk (Firefox 4.0b8pre SeaMonkey 2.1b2pre) the form
fill manager has some sort of credit card number detection and won't
save CC numbers.

Phil



I have found each web site uses different FIELD names for credit cards.
SM 2 allows named fields to be purged upon exit, but it is NOT automatic.

I don't see how s/w could tell the difference ;-) between a credit card number and a 
USPS/UPS/FEDX tracking number (-:



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Re: Forms Fill

[Philip Chee]

On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 06:33:53 -0500, Rick Merrill wrote:

> I find the new form fill very useful.
> 
> BUT when I use "Form History Control" I can see all my credit card 
> information and 
> any values ever entered for any FIELD. Yes, I can delete items that should be 
> protected or are no longer needed.
> 
> I repeat: this seems like a BIG security hole to have Credit Card FIELDS data 
> stored.

I *think* that on trunk (Firefox 4.0b8pre SeaMonkey 2.1b2pre) the form
fill manager has some sort of credit card number detection and won't
save CC numbers.

Phil

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Re: Forms Fill

[Philip Chee]

On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 06:33:53 -0500, Tom Pamin wrote:

> I installed AutoFill Forms and it looks pretty good. I noticed it 
> doesn't include credit card info, like the Form Managr in 1.1.19 did. Is 
> there a way to add these fields to AutoFill Forms, or is there another 
> extension addon that does include credit card info?

Um, for security reasons I really don't recommend storing your credit
card numbers *anywhere*.

Phil

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Re: Forms Fill

[Rick Merrill]

Tom Pamin wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

Michael Gordon wrote:



The one problem I have noticed is the missing "Form Fill" function. We
used to be able to open a Form Fill application and prefill in form
data
such as name, address, phone, etc.

This whole function seems to be missing in this version of SM.


Go to the blank entry and type the first letter of the response.
That is ALL you probably have to do!


I think you are talking about filling fields rather than the whole form.


download and install the AutoFill Forms extension.


I installed AutoFill Forms and it looks pretty good. I noticed it
doesn't include credit card info, like the Form Managr in 1.1.19 did. Is
there a way to add these fields to AutoFill Forms, or is there another
extension addon that does include credit card info?


I find the new form fill very useful.

BUT when I use "Form History Control" I can see all my credit card information and 
any values ever entered for any FIELD. Yes, I can delete items that should be 
protected or are no longer needed.


I repeat: this seems like a BIG security hole to have Credit Card FIELDS data 
stored.

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Re: Forms Fill

[Tom Pamin]

Phillip Jones wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

Michael Gordon wrote:
I have finally upgraded from Mozilla 1.1.18 to SeaMonkey 2.0.1, and 
most

things went smoothly.

The one problem I have noticed is the missing "Form Fill" function. We
used to be able to open a Form Fill application and prefill in form 
data

such as name, address, phone, etc.

This whole function seems to be missing in this version of SM.


Go to the blank entry and type the first letter of the response.
That is ALL you probably have to do!


I think you are talking about filling fields rather than the whole form.


download and install the AutoFill Forms extension.

I installed AutoFill Forms and it looks pretty good. I noticed it 
doesn't include credit card info, like the Form Managr in 1.1.19 did. Is 
there a way to add these fields to AutoFill Forms, or is there another 
extension addon that does include credit card info?

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Re: Forms Fill

[Phillip Jones]

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

Michael Gordon wrote:

I have finally upgraded from Mozilla 1.1.18 to SeaMonkey 2.0.1, and most
things went smoothly.

The one problem I have noticed is the missing "Form Fill" function. We
used to be able to open a Form Fill application and prefill in form data
such as name, address, phone, etc.

This whole function seems to be missing in this version of SM.


Go to the blank entry and type the first letter of the response.
That is ALL you probably have to do!


I think you are talking about filling fields rather than the whole form.


download and install the AutoFill Forms extension.

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Re: Forms Fill

[Phillip Jones]

Bill Davidsen wrote:

S. Beaulieu wrote:

Phillip Jones a écrit :

I seem to recall a conversation here or another group where the creator
of the Forms module in SM1 is long gone and they don't have anyone with
enough smarts to figure out the code, so they just scrapped it thinking
no one used it. Since developers don't use the features they create.



Stop spreading nonesense. No, they didn't scrap it "because they thought
no one used it". They scrapped it because the code was very complex and
obsolete and was a security problem.


They didn't scrap Windows, why forms?  ;-)



I have no idea why they would.  just adding the two Forms extensions 
does a lot to make up for the missing Forms manager (AutoFill and Forms 
History Manager). But still don't hold a candle to the old one.


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Re: Forms Fill

[Bill Davidsen]

Rick Merrill wrote:

Michael Gordon wrote:

I have finally upgraded from Mozilla 1.1.18 to SeaMonkey 2.0.1, and most
things went smoothly.

The one problem I have noticed is the missing "Form Fill" function. We
used to be able to open a Form Fill application and prefill in form data
such as name, address, phone, etc.

This whole function seems to be missing in this version of SM.


Go to the blank entry and type the first letter of the response.
That is ALL you probably have to do!


I think you are talking about filling fields rather than the whole form.

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Re: Forms Fill

[Bill Davidsen]

Phillip Jones wrote:

S. Beaulieu wrote:

Phillip Jones a écrit :

I seem to recall a conversation here or another group where the creator
of the Forms module in SM1 is long gone and they don't have anyone with
enough smarts to figure out the code, so they just scrapped it thinking
no one used it. Since developers don't use the features they create.



Stop spreading nonsense. No, they didn't scrap it "because they thought
no one used it". They scrapped it because the code was very complex and
obsolete and was a security problem.

S.


If they thought people used it they would made more of an effort. If
they had operated the original Forms manager to see what was done and
how, they could have created new code to duplicate its action. instead
of trying to dissect the old code.

Who is this "they" of whom you speak? You may not be a programmer, or even a 
coder, but if you care write a spec for what it should do. It needs to be 
totally unambiguous, cover all possible corner cases, and be clear and concise.


It should start with a statement of general philosophy, and what subset of user 
needs will be met. Hint: don't say anything like "all things to all people," or 
probably avoid "all" totally. Describe what is to happen in unambiguous cases, 
avoid suggest HOW to do it, that's the next step, and is likely to pollute the 
requirements one way or the other. The smaller and better defined the 
requirements are, the easier to get the code written (at least by volunteers).


A good requirements document is the first step to working code, to be followed 
by the actual module (process or procedure) specs. Then someone can write the 
code without doing all the design ad hoc.


If you want to see something better become part of "we" instead of whining about 
"they."


Just to be clear, I am not a contributor of code to this project, although my 
name appears in free software dating back to MULTICS and ISIS. I'm keeping a 
company going while maintaining a family and large house with a sick wife. If I 
occasionally put in a suggestion that's all I can do right now.


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Re: Forms Fill

[Bill Davidsen]

Philip Chee wrote:

On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 10:54:49 +0100, Lucas Levrel wrote:

Le 7 décembre 2010, Ed Mullen a écrit :


The one problem I have noticed is the missing "Form Fill" function.


Yeah, you and a lot of other people.

I'm still trying to figure out how this "advancement" is at all helpful.

(snip rant)

Will people stop ranting about that?

I'm no dev. I was disappointed to find Form fill was gone, as well. But
the reason is clear: the old way simply would have had to be rewritten
from scratch(*) and nobody popped up to do it. No one ever decided the new
way was better.


The Data Manager module will be in SeaMonkey 2.1. IIRC this will include
a forms management tab.


As long as Autofill works and I can disable the default form manager.

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Re: Forms Fill

[Bill Davidsen]

S. Beaulieu wrote:

Phillip Jones a écrit :

I seem to recall a conversation here or another group where the creator
of the Forms module in SM1 is long gone and they don't have anyone with
enough smarts to figure out the code, so they just scrapped it thinking
no one used it. Since developers don't use the features they create.



Stop spreading nonesense. No, they didn't scrap it "because they thought
no one used it". They scrapped it because the code was very complex and
obsolete and was a security problem.


They didn't scrap Windows, why forms?  ;-)

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Re: Forms Fill

[Bill Davidsen]

Philip Chee wrote:

On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 11:02:56 -0800, Michael Gordon wrote:

I have finally upgraded from Mozilla 1.1.18 to SeaMonkey 2.0.1, and most
things went smoothly.

The one problem I have noticed is the missing "Form Fill" function.  We
used to be able to open a Form Fill application and prefill in form data
such as name, address, phone, etc.

This whole function seems to be missing in this version of SM.


You would need an extension for this. I've ported two Firefox extensions
to SeaMonkey 2.0.

FireForm

Autofill Forms


FireForm is more lightweight while Autofill Forms has more bells and
whistles.

If it were not for Autofill I would either still be on 1.x.x or using another 
browser. I do a lot of forms stuff where I fill out the same form with different 
data sets, and the standard code is a non-starter for me. That's the one 
indispensable extension.


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Re: Forms Fill

[Rick Merrill]

Michael Gordon wrote:

I have finally upgraded from Mozilla 1.1.18 to SeaMonkey 2.0.1, and most
things went smoothly.

The one problem I have noticed is the missing "Form Fill" function. We
used to be able to open a Form Fill application and prefill in form data
such as name, address, phone, etc.

This whole function seems to be missing in this version of SM.


Go to the blank entry and type the first letter of the response.
That is ALL you probably have to do!




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Re: Forms Fill

[S. Beaulieu]

Phillip Jones a écrit :

If they thought people used it they would made more of an effort.



That is condescending to the point of being insulting. Way to go, mate.

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Re: Forms Fill

[Robert Kaiser]

Phillip Jones schrieb:

If they thought people used it they would made more of an effort.


We are all volunteers and only can do so much. All the code is open for 
you to build on it and write patches though!


Robert Kaiser


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Re: Forms Fill

[Phillip Jones]

S. Beaulieu wrote:

Phillip Jones a écrit :

I seem to recall a conversation here or another group where the creator
of the Forms module in SM1 is long gone and they don't have anyone with
enough smarts to figure out the code, so they just scrapped it thinking
no one used it. Since developers don't use the features they create.



Stop spreading nonsense. No, they didn't scrap it "because they thought
no one used it". They scrapped it because the code was very complex and
obsolete and was a security problem.

S.


 If they thought people used it they would made more of an effort.  If 
they had operated the original Forms manager to see what was done and 
how,  they could have created new code to duplicate its action. instead 
of trying to dissect  the old code.


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Re: Forms Fill

[S. Beaulieu]

Phillip Jones a écrit :

I seem to recall a conversation here or another group where the creator
of the Forms module in SM1 is long gone and they don't have anyone with
enough smarts to figure out the code, so they just scrapped it thinking
no one used it. Since developers don't use the features they create.



Stop spreading nonesense. No, they didn't scrap it "because they thought 
no one used it". They scrapped it because the code was very complex and 
obsolete and was a security problem.


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Re: Forms Fill

[Phillip Jones]

Ed Mullen wrote:

Michael Gordon wrote:

I have finally upgraded from Mozilla 1.1.18 to SeaMonkey 2.0.1, and most
things went smoothly.

The one problem I have noticed is the missing "Form Fill" function.


Yeah, you and a lot of other people.

I'm still trying to figure out how this "advancement" is at all helpful.

It's like so many other apps (especially MS Office) where "enhancements"
of new versions spawn a host of "how do I make the new version work like
the old one?" conversations, work-arounds, add-ons etc.

Anytime a dev sees that happen they ought to take heed and realize that
their view of "better" doesn't jibe with their users' views.  They
should realize that they just f***d up a perfectly good and desired
product feature.

It's kind of like taking sliced bread and saying:  "Oh!  Let's make our
new version of sliced bread stick together!  The slices will stay
fresher longer!"  Yeah, great.  But now it's not sliced bread anymore,
ok?  It's essentially "un-sliced" bread.  Just because you /can/ do it
doesn't mean you /should/ do it.

Ask your audience/consumers/customers.  If you "improve" the product
enough you just might "improve" your product right out of existence.

And I'm starting to get there with the whole Mozilla line.

I seem to recall a conversation here or another group where the creator 
of the Forms module in SM1 is long gone and they don't have anyone with 
enough smarts to figure out the code, so they just scrapped it thinking 
no one used it. Since developers don't use the features they create.


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Re: Forms Fill

[Jens Hatlak]

Philip Chee wrote:

The Data Manager module will be in SeaMonkey 2.1. IIRC this will include
a forms management tab.


Well yes but that will only allow to view/edit the information stored in 
the built-in form manager (the one that was introduced with SM 2.0). So 
it's at least partly a replacement for the Form History Control add-on, 
but not for the "like SM 1.x" functionality that add-ons like Autofill 
Forms provide.


Greetings,

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Re: Forms Fill

[Philip Chee]

On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 10:54:49 +0100, Lucas Levrel wrote:
> Le 7 décembre 2010, Ed Mullen a écrit :
> 
>>> The one problem I have noticed is the missing "Form Fill" function.
>>
>> Yeah, you and a lot of other people.
>>
>> I'm still trying to figure out how this "advancement" is at all helpful.
> (snip rant)
> 
> Will people stop ranting about that?
> 
> I'm no dev. I was disappointed to find Form fill was gone, as well. But 
> the reason is clear: the old way simply would have had to be rewritten 
> from scratch(*) and nobody popped up to do it. No one ever decided the new 
> way was better.

The Data Manager module will be in SeaMonkey 2.1. IIRC this will include
a forms management tab.

Phil

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Re: Forms Fill

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 7 décembre 2010, Ed Mullen a écrit :


The one problem I have noticed is the missing "Form Fill" function.


Yeah, you and a lot of other people.

I'm still trying to figure out how this "advancement" is at all helpful.

(snip rant)

Will people stop ranting about that?

I'm no dev. I was disappointed to find Form fill was gone, as well. But 
the reason is clear: the old way simply would have had to be rewritten 
from scratch(*) and nobody popped up to do it. No one ever decided the new 
way was better.


(*) due to a change in SM's "programming language", as I understand it.

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Re: Forms Fill

[Ed Mullen]

Michael Gordon wrote:

I have finally upgraded from Mozilla 1.1.18 to SeaMonkey 2.0.1, and most
things went smoothly.

The one problem I have noticed is the missing "Form Fill" function.


Yeah, you and a lot of other people.

I'm still trying to figure out how this "advancement" is at all helpful.

It's like so many other apps (especially MS Office) where "enhancements" 
of new versions spawn a host of "how do I make the new version work like 
the old one?" conversations, work-arounds, add-ons etc.


Anytime a dev sees that happen they ought to take heed and realize that 
their view of "better" doesn't jibe with their users' views.  They 
should realize that they just f***d up a perfectly good and desired 
product feature.


It's kind of like taking sliced bread and saying:  "Oh!  Let's make our 
new version of sliced bread stick together!  The slices will stay 
fresher longer!"  Yeah, great.  But now it's not sliced bread anymore, 
ok?  It's essentially "un-sliced" bread.  Just because you /can/ do it 
doesn't mean you /should/ do it.


Ask your audience/consumers/customers.  If you "improve" the product 
enough you just might "improve" your product right out of existence.


And I'm starting to get there with the whole Mozilla line.

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Re: Forms Fill

[Philip Chee]

On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 11:02:56 -0800, Michael Gordon wrote:
> I have finally upgraded from Mozilla 1.1.18 to SeaMonkey 2.0.1, and most 
> things went smoothly.
> 
> The one problem I have noticed is the missing "Form Fill" function.  We 
> used to be able to open a Form Fill application and prefill in form data 
> such as name, address, phone, etc.
> 
> This whole function seems to be missing in this version of SM.

You would need an extension for this. I've ported two Firefox extensions
to SeaMonkey 2.0.

FireForm

Autofill Forms


FireForm is more lightweight while Autofill Forms has more bells and
whistles.

Phil

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Re: Forms Fill

[Phillip Jones]

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote:




The new one is still nowhere near as good as the one in 1.1.19. Why go
thru each and every field on a page and fill it in one by one? I hoped
that the old forms manager would have been included in version 2 by now


The old forms manager's functionality might never return. Don't hold
your breath, SM 2.1 won't have it either.

The way to go is to use extensions (add-ons) that provide such extra
functionality. One that works with SM 2.0 is linked from the page I
provided (and wrote, BTW).

Greetings,

Jens


Forms History Manager Extension
AutoFill  Forms Extension.  For now that brings back about 80%.

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Re: Forms Fill

[Jens Hatlak]

Tom Pamin wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote:




The new one is still nowhere near as good as the one in 1.1.19. Why go
thru each and every field on a page and fill it in one by one? I hoped
that the old forms manager would have been included in version 2 by now


The old forms manager's functionality might never return. Don't hold 
your breath, SM 2.1 won't have it either.


The way to go is to use extensions (add-ons) that provide such extra 
functionality. One that works with SM 2.0 is linked from the page I 
provided (and wrote, BTW).


Greetings,

Jens

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Re: Forms Fill

[Phillip Jones]

Michael Gordon wrote:

I have finally upgraded from Mozilla 1.1.18 to SeaMonkey 2.0.1, and most
things went smoothly.

The one problem I have noticed is the missing "Form Fill" function.  We
used to be able to open a Form Fill application and prefill in form data
such as name, address, phone, etc.

This whole function seems to be missing in this version of SM.

Michael


Download the extensions
Forms History Control and AutoFill Forms.

This will get you back some what to they way it was in 1.x

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Re: Forms Fill

[Tom Pamin]

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Michael Gordon wrote:

I have finally upgraded from Mozilla 1.1.18 to SeaMonkey 2.0.1, and most
things went smoothly.

The one problem I have noticed is the missing "Form Fill" function. We
used to be able to open a Form Fill application and prefill in form data
such as name, address, phone, etc.

This whole function seems to be missing in this version of SM.




HTH

Jens

The new one is still nowhere near as good as the one in 1.1.19. Why go 
thru each and every field on a page and fill it in one by one? I hoped 
that the old forms manager would have been included in version 2 by now

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Re: Forms Fill

[Jens Hatlak]

Michael Gordon wrote:

I have finally upgraded from Mozilla 1.1.18 to SeaMonkey 2.0.1, and most
things went smoothly.

The one problem I have noticed is the missing "Form Fill" function. We
used to be able to open a Form Fill application and prefill in form data
such as name, address, phone, etc.

This whole function seems to be missing in this version of SM.




HTH

Jens

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Forms Fill

[Michael Gordon]

I have finally upgraded from Mozilla 1.1.18 to SeaMonkey 2.0.1, and most 
things went smoothly.


The one problem I have noticed is the missing "Form Fill" function.  We 
used to be able to open a Form Fill application and prefill in form data 
such as name, address, phone, etc.


This whole function seems to be missing in this version of SM.

Michael
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Re: Forms fill in

[Gerald Ross]

NoOp wrote:

On 09/08/2009 09:37 AM, NoOp wrote:

 On 09/08/2009 09:19 AM, Gerald Ross wrote:

 Is there a file with data to use if filling out forms?
 My wife just went to a new website and there was a pop-up asking for
 her cell phone number and automatically her social security number was
 shown in the blank space. How could that be? If seamonkey (2 obewan)
 has it memorized she needs it un-memorized).

 Thanks in advance.


 Which version of SeaMonkey?



Sorry I guess "(2 obewan)" was meant to mean Version 2.0x. If that is
the case, then - browser window: Tools|Clear Private Data
(Ctrl-Shift-Del). Also: Edit|Preferences|Privacy&  Security - 'Saved
Form and Search History'.


Sorry. it is 2.0b1. Just trying to be cute. Thanks for the help.

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Re: Forms fill in

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Gerald Ross wrote:


Is there a file with data to use if filling out forms?
My wife just went to a new website and there was a pop-up asking for her 
cell phone number and automatically her social security number was shown 
in the blank space. How could that be? If seamonkey (2 obewan) has it 
memorized she needs it un-memorized).


NoOp's answer was good, but I would add that a computer cannot tell 
anyone something it doesn't know. If you don't want it giving out your 
wife's SSN, DON'T TELL IT her SSN!! Same goes for banking data and other 
sensitive things.


But now that we're here, you're right to eradicate the info.

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Re: Forms fill in

[NoOp]

On 09/08/2009 09:37 AM, NoOp wrote:
> On 09/08/2009 09:19 AM, Gerald Ross wrote:
>> Is there a file with data to use if filling out forms?
>> My wife just went to a new website and there was a pop-up asking for 
>> her cell phone number and automatically her social security number was 
>> shown in the blank space. How could that be? If seamonkey (2 obewan) 
>> has it memorized she needs it un-memorized).
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Which version of SeaMonkey?
> 

Sorry I guess "(2 obewan)" was meant to mean Version 2.0x. If that is
the case, then - browser window: Tools|Clear Private Data
(Ctrl-Shift-Del). Also: Edit|Preferences|Privacy & Security - 'Saved
Form and Search History'.
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Re: Forms fill in

[NoOp]

On 09/08/2009 09:19 AM, Gerald Ross wrote:
> Is there a file with data to use if filling out forms?
> My wife just went to a new website and there was a pop-up asking for 
> her cell phone number and automatically her social security number was 
> shown in the blank space. How could that be? If seamonkey (2 obewan) 
> has it memorized she needs it un-memorized).
> 
> Thanks in advance.

Which version of SeaMonkey?

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Forms fill in

[Gerald Ross]

Is there a file with data to use if filling out forms?
My wife just went to a new website and there was a pop-up asking for 
her cell phone number and automatically her social security number was 
shown in the blank space. How could that be? If seamonkey (2 obewan) 
has it memorized she needs it un-memorized).


Thanks in advance.
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Cochran, GA

How long a minute is depends on which
side of the bathroom door you're on.





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