Re: Is there a way to mark ALL newsgroups, at the same time, in an usenet server?

[Roger Fink]

On 4/29/2018 11:04 AM, GerardJan wrote:

Roger Fink wrote on 29/04/2018 15:59:

On 4/29/2018 3:03 AM, Daniel wrote:

Roger Fink wrote on 29/04/18 00:58:

On 4/23/2018 9:28 PM, Ant wrote:

Instead of going one by one? I cannot even highlight all newsgroups to
mark all. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


I'm using fossamail to post here, which is a near clone of
Thunderbird. If I right click any unread message I can select Mark/All
Read, "All" meaning every downloaded message in the newsgroup. Not
sure if that applies to SeaMonkey or not.


Roger, my Laptop's Thumbpad right-click button isn't working a.t.t. (one
day I'll get around to installing the new mouse I've just purchased!!)
but I'm pretty sure it does have the ability to "Mark as Read" all the
unread messages with-in a newsgroup  but the OP wants to be able to
do that for all the groups that they have subscribed to .. with just one
click per server!!



Wow. I think that's right up there with curing the common cold.



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Re: Is there a way to mark ALL newsgroups, at the same time, in an usenet server?

[GerardJan]

Roger Fink wrote on 29/04/2018 15:59:

On 4/29/2018 3:03 AM, Daniel wrote:

Roger Fink wrote on 29/04/18 00:58:

On 4/23/2018 9:28 PM, Ant wrote:

Instead of going one by one? I cannot even highlight all newsgroups to
mark all. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


I'm using fossamail to post here, which is a near clone of
Thunderbird. If I right click any unread message I can select Mark/All
Read, "All" meaning every downloaded message in the newsgroup. Not
sure if that applies to SeaMonkey or not.


Roger, my Laptop's Thumbpad right-click button isn't working a.t.t. (one
day I'll get around to installing the new mouse I've just purchased!!)
but I'm pretty sure it does have the ability to "Mark as Read" all the
unread messages with-in a newsgroup  but the OP wants to be able to
do that for all the groups that they have subscribed to .. with just one
click per server!!



Wow. I think that's right up there with curing the common cold.



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Re: Is there a way to mark ALL newsgroups, at the same time, in an usenet server?

[Roger Fink]

On 4/29/2018 3:03 AM, Daniel wrote:

Roger Fink wrote on 29/04/18 00:58:

On 4/23/2018 9:28 PM, Ant wrote:

Instead of going one by one? I cannot even highlight all newsgroups to
mark all. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


I'm using fossamail to post here, which is a near clone of
Thunderbird. If I right click any unread message I can select Mark/All
Read, "All" meaning every downloaded message in the newsgroup. Not
sure if that applies to SeaMonkey or not.


Roger, my Laptop's Thumbpad right-click button isn't working a.t.t. (one
day I'll get around to installing the new mouse I've just purchased!!)
but I'm pretty sure it does have the ability to "Mark as Read" all the
unread messages with-in a newsgroup  but the OP wants to be able to
do that for all the groups that they have subscribed to .. with just one
click per server!!



Wow. I think that's right up there with curing the common cold.

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Re: Is there a way to mark ALL newsgroups, at the same time, in an usenet server?

[Daniel]

Roger Fink wrote on 29/04/18 00:58:

On 4/23/2018 9:28 PM, Ant wrote:

Instead of going one by one? I cannot even highlight all newsgroups to
mark all. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


I'm using fossamail to post here, which is a near clone of Thunderbird. 
If I right click any unread message I can select Mark/All Read, "All" 
meaning every downloaded message in the newsgroup. Not sure if that 
applies to SeaMonkey or not.


Roger, my Laptop's Thumbpad right-click button isn't working a.t.t. (one 
day I'll get around to installing the new mouse I've just purchased!!) 
but I'm pretty sure it does have the ability to "Mark as Read" all the 
unread messages with-in a newsgroup  but the OP wants to be able to 
do that for all the groups that they have subscribed to .. with just one 
click per server!!


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Re: Is there a way to mark ALL newsgroups, at the same time, in an usenet server?

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

> Frank-Rainer, with SeaMonkey now, more or less, being divorced from Firefox
> (Webext v normal extensions, etc.)

Web ext support is planned for 2.57. One of the things which will held it up. 
With the ESR60 code base many current extensions just won't work. That 
includes all popular Ad- and Scriptblockers. So would be pointless to release 
it in this state.


> as I understand it, if Mozilla breaks the
> mailpane, why should the SM Devs follow Firefox down that hole??
> Isn't is possible to fix faults in the old SM code rather then modifying the
> new FF code and then incorporate those improvements into the (working) revised
> SM code??

Not enough devs left to do this. We barely keep it running. Only an option if 
you want no security fixes or new web standards support.


For the next ESR cycle based on 67 it is probably game over and we need to 
think about what to do. Fx 61 already breaks everything including full themes 
and this won't get better.


FRG

Daniel wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 28/04/18 05:54:
Yes Mozilla broke the mailpane completely with code removals. The code will 
probably be aligned as much as possible with Thunderbird. Otherwise we 
wouldn't be able to release it at all with the current lack of develepers. 
Styling will of course be SeaMonkey:) The bad news is that this is still 
months away.


FRG


Frank-Rainer, with SeaMonkey now, more or less, being divorced from Firefox 
(Webext v normal extensions, etc.) as I understand it, if Mozilla breaks the 
mailpane, why should the SM Devs follow Firefox down that hole??


Isn't is possible to fix faults in the old SM code rather then modifying the 
new FF code and then incorporate those improvements into the (working) revised 
SM code??


Save having to fix what FF broke!!


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Re: Is there a way to mark ALL newsgroups, at the same time, in an usenet server?

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

On 4/27/2018 4:17 AM, Yamo' wrote:

Hi,

Ant a écrit le 24/04/2018 à 03:28 :

Instead of going one by one? I cannot even highlight all newsgroups to
mark all. :(

Thank you in advance. :)



I've just a positive reply to this bug
, the version 2.57
might resolve this old bug!


Awesome. The hard part is waiting for it since it has a long way to go. ;)
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Re: Is there a way to mark ALL newsgroups, at the same time, in an usenet server?

[Richmond]

Ant wrote:
> On 4/24/2018 6:35 AM, Richmond wrote:
>> Ant wrote:
>>> Instead of going one by one? I cannot even highlight all newsgroups to
>>> mark all. :(
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance. :)
>>
>> Yes there is, but it's not the way you would expect. What I did was
>> create a search folder which searches for unread messages in all
>> folders. (Local, Status isn't read). Then you can select all the
>> messages in this search folder (using ctrl-a) and mark them as read.
> 
> Wow. SeaMonkey needs an easier way. Thanks.

Once you have created the search folder you can leave it there
indefinitely, and so marking all groups as read becomes quite easy.
However, I now find an additional bug: SM keeps asking me if I wish to
subscribe to the search folder, and then tells me it doesn't exist. :/

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Re: Is there a way to mark ALL newsgroups, at the same time, in an usenet server?

[Roger Fink]

On 4/23/2018 9:28 PM, Ant wrote:

Instead of going one by one? I cannot even highlight all newsgroups to
mark all. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


I'm using fossamail to post here, which is a near clone of Thunderbird. 
If I right click any unread message I can select Mark/All Read, "All" 
meaning every downloaded message in the newsgroup. Not sure if that 
applies to SeaMonkey or not.

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Re: Is there a way to mark ALL newsgroups, at the same time, in an usenet server?

[Daniel]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 28/04/18 05:54:
Yes Mozilla broke the mailpane completely with code removals. The code 
will probably be aligned as much as possible with Thunderbird. Otherwise 
we wouldn't be able to release it at all with the current lack of 
develepers. Styling will of course be SeaMonkey:) The bad news is that 
this is still months away.


FRG


Frank-Rainer, with SeaMonkey now, more or less, being divorced from 
Firefox (Webext v normal extensions, etc.) as I understand it, if 
Mozilla breaks the mailpane, why should the SM Devs follow Firefox down 
that hole??


Isn't is possible to fix faults in the old SM code rather then modifying 
the new FF code and then incorporate those improvements into the 
(working) revised SM code??


Save having to fix what FF broke!!

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Re: Is there a way to mark ALL newsgroups, at the same time, in an usenet server?

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Yes Mozilla broke the mailpane completely with code removals. The code will 
probably be aligned as much as possible with Thunderbird. Otherwise we 
wouldn't be able to release it at all with the current lack of develepers. 
Styling will of course be SeaMonkey:) The bad news is that this is still 
months away.


FRG

Yamo' wrote:

Hi,

Ant a écrit le 24/04/2018 à 03:28 :

Instead of going one by one? I cannot even highlight all newsgroups to
mark all. :(

Thank you in advance. :)



I've just a positive reply to this bug
, the version 2.57
might resolve this old bug!




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Re: Is there a way to mark ALL newsgroups, at the same time, in an usenet server?

[Yamo']

Hi,

Ant a écrit le 24/04/2018 à 03:28 :
> Instead of going one by one? I cannot even highlight all newsgroups to 
> mark all. :(
> 
> Thank you in advance. :)


I've just a positive reply to this bug
, the version 2.57
might resolve this old bug!



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Re: Is there a way to mark ALL newsgroups, at the same time, in an usenet server?

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

On 4/24/2018 6:35 AM, Richmond wrote:

Ant wrote:

Instead of going one by one? I cannot even highlight all newsgroups to
mark all. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


Yes there is, but it's not the way you would expect. What I did was
create a search folder which searches for unread messages in all
folders. (Local, Status isn't read). Then you can select all the
messages in this search folder (using ctrl-a) and mark them as read.


Wow. SeaMonkey needs an easier way. Thanks.
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Re: Is there a way to mark ALL newsgroups, at the same time, in an usenet server?

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

On 4/24/2018 5:55 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 4/23/18 9:28 PM, Ant wrote:
Instead of going one by one? I cannot even highlight all newsgroups to 
mark all. :(


You have to do the tedious method of "Mark Newsgroup Read" one newsgroup 
at a time in SeaMonkey.


Thanks and boo. :(
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Re: Is there a way to mark ALL newsgroups, at the same time, in an usenet server?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/23/2018 8:01 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:


On 4/23/2018 6:28 PM, Ant wrote:

Instead of going one by one? I cannot even highlight all newsgroups to
mark all. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


With one exception, no newsreader application -- including SeaMonkey and
Thunderbird -- can change the status of newsgroup messages on a server.


I suspect the OP was talking about marking messages as read, or as junk,
or setting their priority, or some other local function. Nobody else
needs to know how I personally mark the various messages on my machine.



The original subject indicates the user wants to mark messages on a
server.


Well, don't take my word for it. Read his reply.

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Re: Is there a way to mark ALL newsgroups, at the same time, in an usenet server?

[David E. Ross]

On 4/23/2018 8:01 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
> 
>> On 4/23/2018 6:28 PM, Ant wrote:
>>> Instead of going one by one? I cannot even highlight all newsgroups to
>>> mark all. :(
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance. :)
>>
>> With one exception, no newsreader application -- including SeaMonkey and
>> Thunderbird -- can change the status of newsgroup messages on a server.
> 
> I suspect the OP was talking about marking messages as read, or as junk, 
> or setting their priority, or some other local function. Nobody else 
> needs to know how I personally mark the various messages on my machine.
> 

The original subject indicates the user wants to mark messages on a
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Re: Is there a way to mark ALL newsgroups, at the same time, in an usenet server?

[Richmond]

Ant wrote:
> Instead of going one by one? I cannot even highlight all newsgroups to
> mark all. :(
> 
> Thank you in advance. :)

Yes there is, but it's not the way you would expect. What I did was
create a search folder which searches for unread messages in all
folders. (Local, Status isn't read). Then you can select all the
messages in this search folder (using ctrl-a) and mark them as read.
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Re: Is there a way to mark ALL newsgroups, at the same time, in an usenet server?

[WaltS48]

On 4/23/18 9:28 PM, Ant wrote:
Instead of going one by one? I cannot even highlight all newsgroups to 
mark all. :(


Thank you in advance. :)



You have to do the tedious method of "Mark Newsgroup Read" one newsgroup 
at a time in SeaMonkey.


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Re: Is there a way to mark ALL newsgroups, at the same time, in an usenet server?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

David E. Ross wrote:


On 4/23/2018 6:28 PM, Ant wrote:

Instead of going one by one? I cannot even highlight all newsgroups to
mark all. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


With one exception, no newsreader application -- including SeaMonkey and
Thunderbird -- can change the status of newsgroup messages on a server.


I suspect the OP was talking about marking messages as read, or as junk, 
or setting their priority, or some other local function. Nobody else 
needs to know how I personally mark the various messages on my machine.


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Re: Is there a way to mark ALL newsgroups, at the same time, in an usenet server?

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On 4/23/2018 6:28 PM, Ant wrote:
> Instead of going one by one? I cannot even highlight all newsgroups to 
> mark all. :(
> 
> Thank you in advance. :)
> 

With one exception, no newsreader application -- including SeaMonkey and
Thunderbird -- can change the status of newsgroup messages on a server.
The exception is that some servers allow the submitter of a message to
cancel that message.  However, most servers today even prohibit that
action because of past situations in which fraudulent cancellations were
issued.

Furthermore, general newsgroups (e.g., the Big-8 hierarchies: comp.*,
news.*, sci.*, humanities.*, rec.*, soc.*, talk.*, and misc.*) are in a
distributed system.  That is, there are a number of servers, not merely
one.  A general newsgroup message posted to any server is quickly
propagated to all the other servers.  Only proprietary servers (e.g.,
news.mozilla.org) stand alone.

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Is there a way to mark ALL newsgroups, at the same time, in an usenet server?

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Instead of going one by one? I cannot even highlight all newsgroups to 
mark all. :(


Thank you in advance. :)
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