Re: Number of URLs shown in the History window.

2013-07-10 Thread Ilya

Ilya wrote:


I set the system date to the 1st of June and then to the 1st of July,
visited a couple of sites and it seems everything works all right.

Sorry my being a retard/sclerotic, the issue is over.


Alas, it is not.

Here's how the History window looked on the 1st of May: 
http://i.imgur.com/u6lIJT3.gif


Here's how it looks now, on the 5th of June:
http://i.imgur.com/P4sikSl.gif

I didn't clear the History/Private Data.

It seems SeaMonkey runs out of some resources and therefore drops the 
oldest history data.


Any suggestions?

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Re: Number of URLs shown in the History window.

2013-07-10 Thread Ilya

Ilya wrote:

»Q« wrote:


In about:config, you can try setting places.history.expiration.max_pages
to a value larger than the value you see for
places.history.expiration.max_pages.


Thanks a lot, for some reason the places.history.expiration.max_pages
setting was initially absent in about:config. I added it, set to a high
number, and places.history.expiration.max_pages automatically took
that value. Hope that will help.



That is, `...and places.history.expiration.transient_current_max_pages 
automatically took that value`, sorry.

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Re: Number of URLs shown in the History window.

2013-07-10 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Ilya wrote:


Ilya wrote:


I set the system date to the 1st of June and then to the 1st of July,
visited a couple of sites and it seems everything works all right.

Sorry my being a retard/sclerotic, the issue is over.


Alas, it is not.

Here's how the History window looked on the 1st of May:
http://i.imgur.com/u6lIJT3.gif

Here's how it looks now, on the 5th of June:
http://i.imgur.com/P4sikSl.gif

I didn't clear the History/Private Data.

It seems SeaMonkey runs out of some resources and therefore drops the
oldest history data.

Any suggestions?


It can't be that simple. I have about 50,000 URLs in my browser history, 
some of them visited as long ago as January 8, 2012 (the last time I 
cleared it). There must be something else going on.


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Re: Number of URLs shown in the History window.

2013-07-10 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

David E. Ross wrote:


On 6/4/13 4:58 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ilya wrote:


Ilya wrote:


I set the system date to the 1st of June and then to the 1st of July,
visited a couple of sites and it seems everything works all right.

Sorry my being a retard/sclerotic, the issue is over.


Alas, it is not.

Here's how the History window looked on the 1st of May:
http://i.imgur.com/u6lIJT3.gif

Here's how it looks now, on the 5th of June:
http://i.imgur.com/P4sikSl.gif

I didn't clear the History/Private Data.

It seems SeaMonkey runs out of some resources and therefore drops the
oldest history data.

Any suggestions?


It can't be that simple. I have about 50,000 URLs in my browser history,
some of them visited as long ago as January 8, 2012 (the last time I
cleared it). There must be something else going on.



See bug #660646 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660646.


I see that, but it wasn't the question as I understand it. Ilya was 
saying his system /does/ clear older entries even when he does not do so 
manually, and he doesn't want that. I replied that my own system /does 
not/ clear older entries, so the hypothesis that SM always does so 
cannot be true. There must be some difference between his system and 
mine that accounts for my long history and his short one.


FWIW, I would love to have that capability back -- to be able to specify 
that entries older than nnn days should be cleared. I miss it.


P.S. I double-checked and found that my system is retaining over 75,000 
URLs in the history, and about:config specifies 104,858 as the maximum 
number at places.history.expiration.transient_current_max_pages. Another 
few months and it will have to start expiring older entries.


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Re: Number of URLs shown in the History window.

2013-07-10 Thread Geoff Welsh

Ilya wrote:

»Q« wrote:


In about:config, you can try setting places.history.expiration.max_pages
to a value larger than the value you see for
places.history.expiration.max_pages.


Thanks a lot, for some reason the places.history.expiration.max_pages
setting was initially absent in about:config. I added it, set to a high
number, and places.history.expiration.max_pages automatically took
that value. Hope that will help.


woooa.

You ADDED a preference to about:config?  I had no idea that was possible.

How is that done?

GW
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Re: Number of URLs shown in the History window.

2013-07-10 Thread »Q«
On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 01:37:41 +0300
Ilya i...@trtk.ru wrote:

 Ilya wrote:
 
  I set the system date to the 1st of June and then to the 1st of
  July, visited a couple of sites and it seems everything works all
  right.
 
  Sorry my being a retard/sclerotic, the issue is over.
 
 Alas, it is not.
 
 Here's how the History window looked on the 1st of May: 
 http://i.imgur.com/u6lIJT3.gif
 
 Here's how it looks now, on the 5th of June:
 http://i.imgur.com/P4sikSl.gif
 
 I didn't clear the History/Private Data.
 
 It seems SeaMonkey runs out of some resources and therefore drops the 
 oldest history data.
 
 Any suggestions?

In about:config, you can try setting places.history.expiration.max_pages
to a value larger than the value you see for
places.history.expiration.transient_current_max_pages.
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Re: Number of URLs shown in the History window.

2013-07-10 Thread Daniel

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Snip

I see that, but it wasn't the question as I understand it. Ilya was
saying his system /does/ clear older entries even when he does not do so
manually, and he doesn't want that. I replied that my own system /does
not/ clear older entries, so the hypothesis that SM always does so
cannot be true. There must be some difference between his system and
mine that accounts for my long history and his short one.

FWIW, I would love to have that capability back -- to be able to specify
that entries older than nnn days should be cleared. I miss it.

P.S. I double-checked and found that my system is retaining over 75,000
URLs in the history, and about:config specifies 104,858 as the maximum
number at places.history.expiration.transient_current_max_pages. Another
few months and it will have to start expiring older entries.


Paul, any idea how old the oldest of you75,000 retained URL's is??

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Re: Number of URLs shown in the History window.

2013-07-10 Thread David E. Ross
On 6/4/13 4:58 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 Ilya wrote:
 
 Ilya wrote:

 I set the system date to the 1st of June and then to the 1st of July,
 visited a couple of sites and it seems everything works all right.

 Sorry my being a retard/sclerotic, the issue is over.

 Alas, it is not.

 Here's how the History window looked on the 1st of May:
 http://i.imgur.com/u6lIJT3.gif

 Here's how it looks now, on the 5th of June:
 http://i.imgur.com/P4sikSl.gif

 I didn't clear the History/Private Data.

 It seems SeaMonkey runs out of some resources and therefore drops the
 oldest history data.

 Any suggestions?
 
 It can't be that simple. I have about 50,000 URLs in my browser history, 
 some of them visited as long ago as January 8, 2012 (the last time I 
 cleared it). There must be something else going on.
 

See bug #660646 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660646.


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Re: Number of URLs shown in the History window.

2013-07-10 Thread Ilya

Geoff Welsh wrote:


woooa.

You ADDED a preference to about:config?  I had no idea that was possible.

How is that done?

GW


Open about:config, rightclick on any setting and choose new, then 
the data type for the new setting.


I agree, that's not absolotely obvious :)
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Re: Number of URLs shown in the History window.

2013-07-10 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Daniel wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Snip

I see that, but it wasn't the question as I understand it. Ilya was
saying his system /does/ clear older entries even when he does not do so
manually, and he doesn't want that. I replied that my own system /does
not/ clear older entries, so the hypothesis that SM always does so
cannot be true. There must be some difference between his system and
mine that accounts for my long history and his short one.

FWIW, I would love to have that capability back -- to be able to specify
that entries older than nnn days should be cleared. I miss it.

P.S. I double-checked and found that my system is retaining over 75,000
URLs in the history, and about:config specifies 104,858 as the maximum
number at places.history.expiration.transient_current_max_pages. Another
few months and it will have to start expiring older entries.


Paul, any idea how old the oldest of you75,000 retained URL's is??


In the message before the one you quote, I said:


It can't be that simple. I have about 50,000 URLs in my browser
history, some of them visited as long ago as January 8, 2012 (the
last time I cleared it). There must be something else going on.


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Re: Number of URLs shown in the History window.

2013-07-10 Thread Hartmut Figge
Daniel:
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

[History]
 and about:config specifies 104,858 as the maximum number at
 places.history.expiration.transient_current_max_pages.

Same value here. Seems to be a default.

Paul, any idea how old the oldest of you75,000 retained URL's is??

Expanding 'older than 6 month' and then sorting by 'Last Visited' shows
as oldest entry 09.10.2011 11:51.

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Re: add to about:config, was Re: Number of URLs shown in the History window.

2013-07-10 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Ilya wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:


woooa.

You ADDED a preference to about:config?  I had no idea that was
possible.

How is that done?

GW


Open about:config, rightclick on any setting and choose new, then
the data type for the new setting.

I agree, that's not absolotely obvious :)


Cool.

Not that I'd know what to add, but it's good to know it's possible, if a
new install was missing something, e.g..

Can you delete them too?  (I'm afraid to try it.)


Feasible, but you'd better know what you're doing. Like asking if you 
can remove parts of a car -- some are more essential than others.


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Re: Number of URLs shown in the History window.

2013-07-10 Thread Daniel

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Snip

I see that, but it wasn't the question as I understand it. Ilya was
saying his system /does/ clear older entries even when he does not do so
manually, and he doesn't want that. I replied that my own system /does
not/ clear older entries, so the hypothesis that SM always does so
cannot be true. There must be some difference between his system and
mine that accounts for my long history and his short one.

FWIW, I would love to have that capability back -- to be able to specify
that entries older than nnn days should be cleared. I miss it.

P.S. I double-checked and found that my system is retaining over 75,000
URLs in the history, and about:config specifies 104,858 as the maximum
number at places.history.expiration.transient_current_max_pages. Another
few months and it will have to start expiring older entries.


Paul, any idea how old the oldest of you75,000 retained URL's is??


In the message before the one you quote, I said:


It can't be that simple. I have about 50,000 URLs in my browser
history, some of them visited as long ago as January 8, 2012 (the
last time I cleared it). There must be something else going on.


O.K., Thanks, Paul!

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Re: Number of URLs shown in the History window.

2013-07-10 Thread Ilya

»Q« wrote:


In about:config, you can try setting places.history.expiration.max_pages
to a value larger than the value you see for
places.history.expiration.max_pages.


Thanks a lot, for some reason the places.history.expiration.max_pages 
setting was initially absent in about:config. I added it, set to a high 
number, and places.history.expiration.max_pages automatically took 
that value. Hope that will help.


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Re: add to about:config, was Re: Number of URLs shown in the History window.

2013-07-10 Thread »Q«
On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 14:06:19 -1000
Geoff Welsh g...@some.rr.com wrote:

 Ilya wrote:
  Geoff Welsh wrote:
 
  woooa.
 
  You ADDED a preference to about:config?  I had no idea that was
  possible.
 
  How is that done?
 
  GW
 
  Open about:config, rightclick on any setting and choose new,
  then the data type for the new setting.
 
  I agree, that's not absolotely obvious :)
 
 Cool.
 
 Not that I'd know what to add, but it's good to know it's possible,
 if a new install was missing something, e.g..
 
 Can you delete them too?  (I'm afraid to try it.)

You can delete ones you've added, by choosing reset.  But you can't
remove ones that exist by default -- resetting them just returns them
to their default state.


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add to about:config, was Re: Number of URLs shown in the History window.

2013-07-10 Thread Geoff Welsh

Ilya wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:


woooa.

You ADDED a preference to about:config?  I had no idea that was possible.

How is that done?

GW


Open about:config, rightclick on any setting and choose new, then
the data type for the new setting.

I agree, that's not absolotely obvious :)


Cool.

Not that I'd know what to add, but it's good to know it's possible, if a 
new install was missing something, e.g..


Can you delete them too?  (I'm afraid to try it.)

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Re: Number of URLs shown in the History window.

2013-07-10 Thread »Q«
On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 02:54:33 +0300
Ilya i...@trtk.ru wrote:

 Ilya wrote:
  »Q« wrote:
 
  In about:config, you can try setting
  places.history.expiration.max_pages to a value larger than the
  value you see for places.history.expiration.max_pages.
 
  Thanks a lot, for some reason the
  places.history.expiration.max_pages setting was initially absent
  in about:config. I added it, set to a high number, and
  places.history.expiration.max_pages automatically took that
  value. Hope that will help.
 
 That is, `...and
 places.history.expiration.transient_current_max_pages automatically
 took that value`, sorry.

Also in my quoted text above, it was ... the value you see for
places.history.expiration.transient_current_max_pages.

If places.history.expiration.max_pages is unset, which is the default,
then places.history.expiration.transient_current_max_pages takes a value
based on your system resources.  (I don't know what the algorithm is.)
Setting places.history.expiration.max_pages is the way to override that
value.  If you set it too high, you may see a drop in performance when
it comes to bookmarks, history, c.

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Re: Number of URLs shown in the History window.

2013-05-01 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Ilya wrote:


To make it completely clear: this is how my History window looks:
http://i.imgur.com/u6lIJT3.gif

I want February, January, Previous year and so on listed there too.

(I'd attach the screenshot to the message, but the newsgroup server
seems to block messages with attachments).


You can make it start remembering from now on (as you seem to have 
done), but you can't make it remember what it's already forgotten.


Edit | Preferences | Browser | History
[x] Remember visited pages

SeaMonkey is perfectly capable of remembering pages visited a year ago 
if it started remembering a year ago and you've never cleared the 
history since then.


In short, if you want six months' history, you have to run the program 
for six months without clearing the history.


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Re: Number of URLs shown in the History window.

2013-05-01 Thread Ilya

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


In short, if you want six months' history, you have to run the program
for six months without clearing the history.


Paul, I understand that, I'm not that terribly stupid :)

Of course I have been running SeaMonkey for quite a number of months 
(probably for two years or so), the Remember visited pages checkbox 
was always checked and I don't remember clearing the history.


So it's either a bug, or my memory fails me (if so, I do apologize) or 
anything else.


Thanks for answering anyway, at least now I know it works properly for 
others.


Think I'll just have to wait till the end of May to see if my SeaMonkey 
remembers (or forgets) the history for March.

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Re: Number of URLs shown in the History window.

2013-05-01 Thread Ilya

Ilya wrote:


Think I'll just have to wait till the end of May to see if my SeaMonkey
remembers (or forgets) the history for March.


I set the system date to the 1st of June and then to the 1st of July, 
visited a couple of sites and it seems everything works all right.


Sorry my being a retard/sclerotic, the issue is over.
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Re: Number of URLs shown in the History window.

2013-05-01 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Ilya wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


In short, if you want six months' history, you have to run the
program for six months without clearing the history.


Paul, I understand that, I'm not that terribly stupid :)


Didn't mean to say that. Я ведь не такой хам!


Of course I have been running SeaMonkey for quite a number of months
(probably for two years or so), the Remember visited pages checkbox
was always checked and I don't remember clearing the history.

So it's either a bug, or my memory fails me (if so, I do apologize) or
anything else.

Thanks for answering anyway, at least now I know it works properly for
others.

Think I'll just have to wait till the end of May to see if my SeaMonkey
remembers (or forgets) the history for March.


One other place to check:

Edit | Preferences | Privacy  Security
[x] Always clear my private data when I close SeaMonkey
[ ] Ask me before clearing private data

When I ask SeaMonkey to clear my private data, it should erase:
...
[ ] Browsing history ==
...

If private data is defined as including browser history, it will clear 
the history every time it clears private data. Even if you don't have it 
set to do this on shutdown, it will clear the history if you issue the 
command manually and the definition includes the browser history.


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Number of URLs shown in the History window.

2013-04-30 Thread Ilya

Hello, guys.

In the History window SeaMonkey only shows me URLs that I visited in the 
recent three months, but the history.dat file in the profile folder 
takes about 80 mb, which lets me assume it contains much more data on 
the visited sites.


Is there a way to display all the visited sites, not only those visited 
in the recent three months? May be some preferences accessible via 
about:config? (didn't manage to find anything though).



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Re: Number of URLs shown in the History window.

2013-04-30 Thread Chris Ilias

On 2013-04-30 10:34 PM, Ilya wrote:

Hello, guys.

In the History window SeaMonkey only shows me URLs that I visited in the
recent three months, but the history.dat file in the profile folder
takes about 80 mb, which lets me assume it contains much more data on
the visited sites.

Is there a way to display all the visited sites, not only those visited
in the recent three months? May be some preferences accessible via
about:config? (didn't manage to find anything though).


History.dat is not used anymore. Your browsing history (and bookmarks) 
is stored in places.sqlite.
For more info about what files are used for what, visit 
http://www.seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/#files.


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Re: Number of URLs shown in the History window.

2013-04-30 Thread Ilya

Chris Ilias wrote:


History.dat is not used anymore. Your browsing history (and bookmarks)
is stored in places.sqlite.
For more info about what files are used for what, visit
http://www.seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/#files.


I see, thanks, Chris.

But anyway, it there a way to make SeaMonkey remember more visited URLs?


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Re: Number of URLs shown in the History window.

2013-04-30 Thread Larry S.

Ilya wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:


History.dat is not used anymore. Your browsing history (and bookmarks)
is stored in places.sqlite.
For more info about what files are used for what, visit
http://www.seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/#files.


I see, thanks, Chris.

But anyway, it there a way to make SeaMonkey remember more visited URLs?



Go-History?

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Re: Number of URLs shown in the History window.

2013-04-30 Thread Ilya

Larry S. wrote:


But anyway, it there a way to make SeaMonkey remember more visited URLs?



Go-History?


This will open the History window that will show the URLs I visited in 
May, April and March. The URLs I visited before March are not shown.


I try to find a way to get SeaMonkey remember and show all the URLs I 
have visited, not only the ones I visited in the current month and in 
the two previous ones.


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Re: Number of URLs shown in the History window.

2013-04-30 Thread Ilya
To make it completely clear: this is how my History window looks: 
http://i.imgur.com/u6lIJT3.gif


I want February, January, Previous year and so on listed there too.

(I'd attach the screenshot to the message, but the newsgroup server 
seems to block messages with attachments).

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