Re: 'Report Broken Web Site' Not Available in SM 2.1b2pre
Jens Hatlak schrieb: Robert Kaiser wrote: Jens Hatlak schrieb: Filed bug 613770. I don't see the sense in writing a patch for plain removal, though, so I skipped that step. Well, I am seriously cutting down the time I'm working on SeaMonkey and trying to cut down on work time in general, so it will take me some time if I need to look into it. Fair enough. We have a bug for it now, which is also the minimum requirement we're heading for for things that need in-product documentation (Help). I could do the change in CVS, but since you seem to want to see a patch somewhere and I cannot push the change anyway due to the template issues I encountered, I'll just leave it this way. SM 2.1 is still a bit ahead, no need to address this ASAP. I don't require a patch if you do it, I just mentioned it because someone attaching it would speed up me doing it. If you delete that part and push it, that's OK by me! (oh, and no need to build templates if all you do is simple HTML editing) Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community needs answers to. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 'Report Broken Web Site' Not Available in SM 2.1b2pre
NoOp schrieb: File a *bug* and a *patch* to change a web page that *you* maintain? Yes. The same process as for code I maintain, the same process as used everywhere in Mozilla. We even file bugs for build machines that need changes applied. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community needs answers to. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 'Report Broken Web Site' Not Available in SM 2.1b2pre
Robert Kaiser wrote: I don't require a patch if you do it, I just mentioned it because someone attaching it would speed up me doing it. If you delete that part and push it, that's OK by me! (oh, and no need to build templates if all you do is simple HTML editing) OK, done. Easier than I thought. :-) Greetings, Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 'Report Broken Web Site' Not Available in SM 2.1b2pre
Robert Kaiser wrote: Jens Hatlak schrieb: Filed bug 613770. I don't see the sense in writing a patch for plain removal, though, so I skipped that step. Well, I am seriously cutting down the time I'm working on SeaMonkey and trying to cut down on work time in general, so it will take me some time if I need to look into it. Fair enough. We have a bug for it now, which is also the minimum requirement we're heading for for things that need in-product documentation (Help). I could do the change in CVS, but since you seem to want to see a patch somewhere and I cannot push the change anyway due to the template issues I encountered, I'll just leave it this way. SM 2.1 is still a bit ahead, no need to address this ASAP. Greetings, Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 'Report Broken Web Site' Not Available in SM 2.1b2pre
On 11/20/2010 05:15 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: Jens Hatlak schrieb: Ah, that's on this page: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/dev/get-involved KaiRo, can you remove that paragraph please? Please file a bug, even better a patch. File a *bug* and a *patch* to change a web page that *you* maintain? Are you not the maintainer of that web page? quote Maintained by Robert Kaiser mailto:ka...@kairo.at /quote Regardless of: I am seriously cutting down the time I'm working on SeaMonkey and trying to cut down on work time in general it seems to me that you are asking others to use added/wasted time to file a bug, even better a patch... Filing a bug report for something like this (IMO) simply causes unnecessary noise on bugzilla. So, now: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613770 is (again IMO - sorry Jens) added to the thousands (6533) of other bugzilla reports for SeaMonkey: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=seamonkey Well done. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 'Report Broken Web Site' Not Available in SM 2.1b2pre
On 11/21/2010 12:09 PM, Jens Hatlak wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Jens Hatlak schrieb: Filed bug 613770. I don't see the sense in writing a patch for plain removal, though, so I skipped that step. Well, I am seriously cutting down the time I'm working on SeaMonkey and trying to cut down on work time in general, so it will take me some time if I need to look into it. Fair enough. We have a bug for it now, which is also the minimum requirement we're heading for for things that need in-product documentation (Help). I could do the change in CVS, but since you seem to want to see a patch somewhere and I cannot push the change anyway due to the template issues I encountered, I'll just leave it this way. SM 2.1 is still a bit ahead, no need to address this ASAP. Bug number?, I want to mark it blocking so we don't miss it. -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 'Report Broken Web Site' Not Available in SM 2.1b2pre
NoOp wrote: On 11/20/2010 05:15 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: Jens Hatlak schrieb: Ah, that's on this page: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/dev/get-involved KaiRo, can you remove that paragraph please? Please file a bug, even better a patch. File a *bug* and a *patch* to change a web page that *you* maintain? Are you not the maintainer of that web page? quote Maintained by Robert Kaiser mailto:ka...@kairo.at /quote Regardless of: I am seriously cutting down the time I'm working on SeaMonkey and trying to cut down on work time in general it seems to me that you are asking others to use added/wasted time to file a bug, even better a patch... Filing a bug report for something like this (IMO) simply causes unnecessary noise on bugzilla. So, now: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613770 is (again IMO - sorry Jens) added to the thousands (6533) of other bugzilla reports for SeaMonkey: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=seamonkey Well done. Thank you, I was about to try to write that post but you beat me to it and better expressed to boot! gotta tell ya, just don't get it. Err, it's a freaking Web page, just go edit it. There's agreement on the mis-statement, just delete the freaking reference. Hell, it'd take me about 30 seconds. How many bytes, hours, and effort has been wasted on this now? Good Lord. Every time I fall in love with SeaMonkey something like this comes along and makes me wonder how I haven't yet caught the clap from my long-term marriage to this piece of software. What is this nonsense? God, makes me want to fire up my FTP program and just delete all the stuff on my Web site under the Mozilla folders. Bug Report? Hello? Robert, you seem like a good guy but, really? -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ Even a mosquito doesn't get a slap on the back until it starts to work. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 'Report Broken Web Site' Not Available in SM 2.1b2pre
Arnie Goetchius wrote: According to the latest download of Seamonkey 2.1b2pre there is a process to report broken web sites as described in the following paragraph: SeaMonkey comes with a new tool for reporting broken web sites (available through the Custom Install option). From the 'Help' menu, select 'Report Broken Web Site' and provide as much information as you can about the issue that you are encountering. Ah, that's on this page: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/dev/get-involved KaiRo, can you remove that paragraph please? I did a custom install but did not see anywhere that I could load that option. When I click on the Help menu, I don't see 'Report Broken Web Site'. Is this in the future? Sounds like a terrific idea. Actually it's in SM 2.0 but has been removed for SM 2.1 because the reports basically went nowhere (no-one picked them up). Bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=590102 SM 2.1 website compatibility should be better in general, though, since it now advertises itself as Firefox in addition to SeaMonkey. HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 'Report Broken Web Site' Not Available in SM 2.1b2pre
Jens Hatlak schrieb: Ah, that's on this page: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/dev/get-involved KaiRo, can you remove that paragraph please? Please file a bug, even better a patch. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community needs answers to. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 'Report Broken Web Site' Not Available in SM 2.1b2pre
Jens Hatlak wrote: Arnie Goetchius wrote: SM 2.1 website compatibility should be better in general, though, since it now advertises itself as Firefox in addition to SeaMonkey. FWIW, I can log into http://adwords.microsoft.com with 2.1 without getting an incompatible browser error message. I get an error message using 2.010 However, I still get incompatible browser error message when logging into http://adwords.google.com with SM 2.1. No error message if I log in with FF 3.6 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 'Report Broken Web Site' Not Available in SM 2.1b2pre
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Arnie Goetchius wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: Arnie Goetchius wrote: SM 2.1 website compatibility should be better in general, though, since it now advertises itself as Firefox in addition to SeaMonkey. FWIW, I can log into http://adwords.microsoft.com with 2.1 without getting an incompatible browser error message. I get an error message using 2.010 However, I still get incompatible browser error message when logging into http://adwords.google.com with SM 2.1. No error message if I log in with FF 3.6 I get 404s for both of those 'adwords' URLs ... no error, just missing. Should have been: http://adcenter.microsoft.com https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=adwords Sorry for my error. sigh Personally, I can't see any advantage to a browser utility that sends some kind of error message to a web site. There are so many broken sites out there that (if this reporting thingy became popular) webmasters would start directing all such messages to dev/null. I can envision users-without-clue sending hundreds/thousands of these reports and possibly causing the site authors to ban access by those browsers. Good point. There are enough of us without a clue to not add any more ;) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 'Report Broken Web Site' Not Available in SM 2.1b2pre
Arnie Goetchius wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Arnie Goetchius wrote: However, I still get incompatible browser error message when logging into http://adwords.google.com with SM 2.1. No error message if I log in with FF 3.6 I get 404s for both of those 'adwords' URLs ... no error, just missing. Should have been: http://adcenter.microsoft.com https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=adwords Sorry for my error. sigh Ah, thanks. I see what you mean with the Microsloth site. Setting my UA to any of Ipod, Iphone, Iceweasel, Firefox Linux, multiple Operas including Opera Mobile, and my favorite Borgzilla, I am rejected. Works fine as any IE version... but then it is a Microsloth site. I had no problem with the Google site with any of the above UAs. Since that MS site is looking for advertisers/revenue, I am truly confused why they even care about what browser the prospective spender of money would be using. Oh wait .. it's Microsloth. My Borgzilla is humor: Borgzilla/31.0 (X11;U;Linux i686;en-US;rv:31.0) Resistance is futile Personally, I can't see any advantage to a browser utility that sends some kind of error message to a web site. There are so many broken sites out there that (if this reporting thingy became popular) webmasters would start directing all such messages to dev/null. I can envision users-without-clue sending hundreds/thousands of these reports and possibly causing the site authors to ban access by those browsers. Good point. There are enough of us without a clue to not add any more ;) I'd consider you to be in the Have Clue category, Arnie. g -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 'Report Broken Web Site' Not Available in SM 2.1b2pre
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Arnie Goetchius wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Arnie Goetchius wrote: However, I still get incompatible browser error message when logging into http://adwords.google.com with SM 2.1. No error message if I log in with FF 3.6 I get 404s for both of those 'adwords' URLs ... no error, just missing. Should have been: http://adcenter.microsoft.com https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=adwords Sorry for my error. sigh Ah, thanks. I see what you mean with the Microsloth site. Setting my UA to any of Ipod, Iphone, Iceweasel, Firefox Linux, multiple Operas including Opera Mobile, and my favorite Borgzilla, I am rejected. Works fine as any IE version... but then it is a Microsloth site. I had no problem with the Google site with any of the above UAs. Since that MS site is looking for advertisers/revenue, I am truly confused why they even care about what browser the prospective spender of money would be using. Oh wait .. it's Microsloth. My Borgzilla is humor: Borgzilla/31.0 (X11;U;Linux i686;en-US;rv:31.0) Resistance is futile Personally, I can't see any advantage to a browser utility that sends some kind of error message to a web site. There are so many broken sites out there that (if this reporting thingy became popular) webmasters would start directing all such messages to dev/null. I can envision users-without-clue sending hundreds/thousands of these reports and possibly causing the site authors to ban access by those browsers. Good point. There are enough of us without a clue to not add any more ;) I'd consider you to be in the Have Clue category, Arnie.g Thanks for the very kind words. I owe you a beer!! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 'Report Broken Web Site' Not Available in SM 2.1b2pre
Robert Kaiser wrote: Jens Hatlak schrieb: Ah, that's on this page: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/dev/get-involved KaiRo, can you remove that paragraph please? Please file a bug, even better a patch. Filed bug 613770. I don't see the sense in writing a patch for plain removal, though, so I skipped that step. Greetings, Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 'Report Broken Web Site' Not Available in SM 2.1b2pre
Jens Hatlak schrieb: Filed bug 613770. I don't see the sense in writing a patch for plain removal, though, so I skipped that step. Well, I am seriously cutting down the time I'm working on SeaMonkey and trying to cut down on work time in general, so it will take me some time if I need to look into it. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community needs answers to. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
