Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-16 Thread Ray_Net

Hartmut Figge wrote, On 12/04/2013 01:40:

Daniel:


Tried 63 characters plus space, no problem.

Tried 64 characters plus space, got added subject.

Thanks for testing, Daniel. The bug is reproducible now. 64 or more
characters in the subject + a trailing space suffice to trigger it.

Time to file a bug. Ray? O:-)


Hartmut
Bug already created https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776096 
but no cure for the moment :-)

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-12 Thread Daniel

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Hartmut Figge:


The bug is reproducible now. 64 or more characters in the subject + a
trailing space suffice to trigger it.


I have opened a thread in a German NG to gather more information. It is
night now, so it will take time for answers, but one is already there.

TB using IMAP could not reproduce. Maybe POP3 is a required condition.
Or TB is not affected.

Hartmut


Just FYI, Hartmut, I am POP3.

So might you be suggestion that it's a problem on the Inbox side of SM 
mail, rather than on the Outbox side of SM mail??


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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-12 Thread Hartmut Figge
Daniel:

So might you be suggestion that it's a problem on the Inbox side of SM 
mail, rather than on the Outbox side of SM mail??

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=861128 should give answers.
You may comment there. ;)

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-12 Thread »Q«
On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 06:59:52 +0200
Hartmut Figge h.fi...@gmx.de wrote:

 Geoff Welsh:
 
 I lost track of this thread days ago,
 
 Not only you. *g*
 
 but now that you guys have broke it down, I can tell you that the
 prob is reproducible on Mac SM 2.17 too.
 
 There are two parts. One is the producing of a line in the headers
 consisting only of a space after the Subject by SM, the other is the
 handling of this problem in the treadpane.
 
 I am waiting for more answers in a German NG once the night is over.
 What about TB?
 
 http://groups.google.com/search?as_umsgid=51674ffa.7080...@hfigge.myfqdn.de
 
 May you who read this have less difficulties with German than i have
 with English. :)

My German is not good enough to follow that, unfortunately.

My take on the problem with what SeaMonkey sends:
It's clear that no header should be folded in the way SeaMonkey has
folded the Subject in this case.  (In RFC language, SeaMonkey MUST
NOT fold this way.)  Why SeaMonkey wants to fold such a short Subject
header in the first place is beyond me, but if it is to be folded, it
should be folded *before* the last non-whitespace characters in the
field.

My take on what SeaMonkey displays:
Unfolding should only remove CRLFs which are immediately followed by
whitespace.  That's true whether the folding is compliant with RFC
2822 or compliant with the obsolete RFC 822.  But in this case,
in the thread pane view, the CRLF immediately before Content-Type has
been removed during the unfolding, making that line a continuation of
the Subject field;  that CRLF is *not* followed by whitespace, so it
should be treated as the end of the Subject header, not as something to
be unfolded.

I tried to follow the bugs linked from
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776096#c16 and
subsequent comments to find out what algorithms SeaMonkey uses for
folding and unfolding, but I got lost.
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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-12 Thread GerardJan

On 04/12/2013 01:06 PM, Daniel wrote:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Hartmut Figge:


The bug is reproducible now. 64 or more characters in the subject + a
trailing space suffice to trigger it.


I have opened a thread in a German NG to gather more information. It is
night now, so it will take time for answers, but one is already there.

TB using IMAP could not reproduce. Maybe POP3 is a required condition.
Or TB is not affected.

Hartmut


Just FYI, Hartmut, I am POP3.

So might you be suggestion that it's a problem on the Inbox side of SM mail,
rather than on the Outbox side of SM mail??



I use *imap* for incoming and *smtp* for outgoing mail and news


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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-12 Thread Hartmut Figge
GerardJan:
On 04/12/2013 01:06 PM, Daniel wrote:

 Just FYI, Hartmut, I am POP3.

 So might you be suggestion that it's a problem on the Inbox side of SM 
 mail,
 rather than on the Outbox side of SM mail??

I use *imap* for incoming and *smtp* for outgoing mail and news

I am hiding since i discovered that i filed a duplicate. So i cannot
answer, i am not there.

Hart dr mut
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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-12 Thread »Q«
On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:52:19 +0200
Hartmut Figge h.fi...@gmx.de wrote:

 I am hiding since i discovered that i filed a duplicate. So i cannot
 answer, i am not there.

At least you caught it and marked it as a dupe yourself;  no need to
hide.  But maybe now is not a good time to mention that Ray posted the
bug link in the OP in this thread. ;)
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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-11 Thread Daniel

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Daniel:


Oh, o.k., then thank you for your consideration, Ray, but I still
haven't received either e-mail!!


It is OT here, but, hm. This post will also be sent to your e-mail
address. Without the 'nospam'. Did you receive the mail?

Hartmut


E-mail received, Hartmut, but no added text and still no e-mail from Ray!!

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-11 Thread Hartmut Figge
Daniel:

E-mail received, Hartmut, but no added text and still no e-mail from Ray!!

Ray has used the same e-mail address. So his mail got lost on the way to
you. Blacklist? Treated as spam? Some possibilities. None of them belong
in this group.

How about if you send a mail to Ray to discuss the problem? Do not
forget to remove his TBR's. *g*

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-11 Thread Ray_Net

Hartmut Figge wrote, On 11/04/2013 10:26:

Daniel:


E-mail received, Hartmut, but no added text and still no e-mail from Ray!!

Ray has used the same e-mail address. So his mail got lost on the way to
you. Blacklist? Treated as spam? Some possibilities. None of them belong
in this group.

How about if you send a mail to Ray to discuss the problem? Do not
forget to remove his TBR's. *g*

Hartmut
Effectively i have sent twice a mail with problem and i did not receive 
a mail saying:
mailbox did not exists, nor a mail telling me per exemple that this mail 
has been rejected by SpamCop(or other cie)


Now it resent the same offending mail TO: Daniel with CC: Harmut Figge.


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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-11 Thread Daniel

Ray_Net wrote:

Hartmut Figge wrote, On 11/04/2013 10:26:

Daniel:


E-mail received, Hartmut, but no added text and still no e-mail from
Ray!!

Ray has used the same e-mail address. So his mail got lost on the way to
you. Blacklist? Treated as spam? Some possibilities. None of them belong
in this group.

How about if you send a mail to Ray to discuss the problem? Do not
forget to remove his TBR's. *g*

Hartmut

Effectively i have sent twice a mail with problem and i did not receive
a mail saying:
mailbox did not exists, nor a mail telling me per exemple that this mail
has been rejected by SpamCop(or other cie)

Now it resent the same offending mail TO: Daniel with CC: Harmut Figge.


Ray, I have received your mail (this time) and I see what you are 
complaining about . the subject of the e-mail in the thread pane is 
longer than the subject of the e-mail in the preview pane!!


Easy fixed . keep the subjects short!! ;-)

Sorry, Ray, cannot offer any advice . way over my head!!

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-11 Thread Daniel

Daniel wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hartmut Figge wrote, On 11/04/2013 10:26:

Daniel:


E-mail received, Hartmut, but no added text and still no e-mail from
Ray!!

Ray has used the same e-mail address. So his mail got lost on the way to
you. Blacklist? Treated as spam? Some possibilities. None of them belong
in this group.

How about if you send a mail to Ray to discuss the problem? Do not
forget to remove his TBR's. *g*

Hartmut

Effectively i have sent twice a mail with problem and i did not receive
a mail saying:
mailbox did not exists, nor a mail telling me per exemple that this mail
has been rejected by SpamCop(or other cie)

Now it resent the same offending mail TO: Daniel with CC: Harmut Figge.


Ray, I have received your mail (this time) and I see what you are
complaining about . the subject of the e-mail in the thread pane is
longer than the subject of the e-mail in the preview pane!!

Easy fixed . keep the subjects short!! ;-)

Sorry, Ray, cannot offer any advice . way over my head!!


Ray, I just did a bit of experimenting (now that I know what you're 
talking about!) by sending myself an e-mail with a subject consisting of 
1234567890 repeated seven times, i.e. 70 character subject.


Not a problem, received the e-mail with just the 70 character subject in 
the thread pane.


Sent myself a second copy of e-mail with a space at the end of the 
subject and received an e-mail with the added subject content.


Tried sixty characters plus a space, no problem.

Tried 65 characters plus space, added extra subject.

Tried 63 characters plus space, no problem.

Tried 64 characters plus space, got added subject.

So my results seem slightly different to you, Ray, but the substance is 
the same!


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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-11 Thread Ray_Net

Daniel wrote, On 11/04/2013 16:52:

Daniel wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hartmut Figge wrote, On 11/04/2013 10:26:

Daniel:


E-mail received, Hartmut, but no added text and still no e-mail from
Ray!!
Ray has used the same e-mail address. So his mail got lost on the 
way to
you. Blacklist? Treated as spam? Some possibilities. None of them 
belong

in this group.

How about if you send a mail to Ray to discuss the problem? Do not
forget to remove his TBR's. *g*

Hartmut

Effectively i have sent twice a mail with problem and i did not receive
a mail saying:
mailbox did not exists, nor a mail telling me per exemple that this 
mail

has been rejected by SpamCop(or other cie)

Now it resent the same offending mail TO: Daniel with CC: Harmut Figge.


Ray, I have received your mail (this time) and I see what you are
complaining about . the subject of the e-mail in the thread pane is
longer than the subject of the e-mail in the preview pane!!

Easy fixed . keep the subjects short!! ;-)

Sorry, Ray, cannot offer any advice . way over my head!!


Ray, I just did a bit of experimenting (now that I know what you're 
talking about!) by sending myself an e-mail with a subject consisting 
of 1234567890 repeated seven times, i.e. 70 character subject.


Not a problem, received the e-mail with just the 70 character subject 
in the thread pane.


Sent myself a second copy of e-mail with a space at the end of the 
subject and received an e-mail with the added subject content.


Tried sixty characters plus a space, no problem.

Tried 65 characters plus space, added extra subject.

Tried 63 characters plus space, no problem.

Tried 64 characters plus space, got added subject.

So my results seem slightly different to you, Ray, but the substance 
is the same!


Whatever the details are, i am happy to know that i am not alone 
experimenting the problem.

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-11 Thread Hartmut Figge
Daniel:

Tried 63 characters plus space, no problem.

Tried 64 characters plus space, got added subject.

Thanks for testing, Daniel. The bug is reproducible now. 64 or more
characters in the subject + a trailing space suffice to trigger it.

Time to file a bug. Ray? O:-)


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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-11 Thread Hartmut Figge
Ray_Net:

Now it resent the same offending mail TO: Daniel with CC: Harmut Figge.

Got it. Thanks.

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-11 Thread Hartmut Figge
Hartmut Figge:

The bug is reproducible now. 64 or more characters in the subject + a
trailing space suffice to trigger it.

I have opened a thread in a German NG to gather more information. It is
night now, so it will take time for answers, but one is already there.

TB using IMAP could not reproduce. Maybe POP3 is a required condition.
Or TB is not affected.

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-11 Thread Geoff Welsh

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Daniel:


Tried 63 characters plus space, no problem.

Tried 64 characters plus space, got added subject.


Thanks for testing, Daniel. The bug is reproducible now. 64 or more
characters in the subject + a trailing space suffice to trigger it.

Hartmut

I lost track of this thread days ago, but now that you guys have broke 
it down, I can tell you that the prob is reproducible on Mac SM 2.17 too.

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-11 Thread Hartmut Figge
Geoff Welsh:

I lost track of this thread days ago,

Not only you. *g*

but now that you guys have broke it down, I can tell you that the
prob is reproducible on Mac SM 2.17 too.

There are two parts. One is the producing of a line in the headers
consisting only of a space after the Subject by SM, the other is the
handling of this problem in the treadpane.

I am waiting for more answers in a German NG once the night is over.
What about TB?

http://groups.google.com/search?as_umsgid=51674ffa.7080...@hfigge.myfqdn.de

May you who read this have less difficulties with German than i have
with English. :)

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-11 Thread Hartmut Figge
Hartmut Figge:

What about TB?

It seems that there is no problem with sending, no adding of line
consisting of a space, but the display of such a mail is also garbled in
the threadpane.

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-10 Thread Daniel

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote, On 09/04/2013 15:12:

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote, On 08/04/2013 15:43:

Ray_Net wrote:


Snip


May i sent a mail with a subject ending with a space from my pc to one
or you ?


Ray, you can e-mail me if you wish!! Remove the nospam. from my
munged address here!


Just done - hoping you have the same problem.


Nothing heard, Ray, do you want to try again??


I juste resent you the same mail at the following adress TBR removed:
dxmt...@albtbrury.net.au


What are the TBR's for, Ray?? Still not getting it!!

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-10 Thread Hartmut Figge
Daniel:
Ray_Net wrote:

 I juste resent you the same mail at the following adress TBR removed:
 dxmt...@albtbrury.net.au

What are the TBR's for, Ray??

To be removed. Remove the TBR's and you have the address to which Ray
has sent the mail. Should be correct, assuming, the nospam in your
address is also TBR. *g*

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-10 Thread Daniel

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Daniel:

Ray_Net wrote:



I juste resent you the same mail at the following adress TBR removed:
dxmt...@albtbrury.net.au


What are the TBR's for, Ray??


To be removed. Remove the TBR's and you have the address to which Ray
has sent the mail. Should be correct, assuming, the nospam in your
address is also TBR. *g*

Hartmut


Thanks for the explanation, Hartmut, but where would they come from?? 
Their not in the e-mail address that I use to send to this NG, are they??


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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-10 Thread Hartmut Figge
Daniel:
Hartmut Figge wrote:
 Daniel:
 Ray_Net wrote:

 I juste resent you the same mail at the following adress TBR removed:
 dxmt...@albtbrury.net.au

 What are the TBR's for, Ray??

 To be removed. Remove the TBR's and you have the address to which Ray
 has sent the mail. Should be correct, assuming, the nospam in your
 address is also TBR. *g*

Thanks for the explanation, Hartmut, but where would they come from?? 
Their not in the e-mail address that I use to send to this NG, are they??

It is the e-mail address in your 'From: '. It is questionable, if the
'nospam' there should be removed or not. I have read arguments for both
decisions. Ray used the TBR's to avoid writing your e-mail here in the
newsgroup.

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-10 Thread WaltS

On 04/10/2013 09:29 AM, Daniel wrote:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Daniel:

Ray_Net wrote:



I juste resent you the same mail at the following adress TBR removed:
dxmt...@albtbrury.net.au


What are the TBR's for, Ray??


To be removed. Remove the TBR's and you have the address to which Ray
has sent the mail. Should be correct, assuming, the nospam in your
address is also TBR. *g*

Hartmut


Thanks for the explanation, Hartmut, but where would they come from??
Their not in the e-mail address that I use to send to this NG, are they??



Daniel they aren't in the address. Just there in the post so no bots 
mine your email address from his post.


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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-10 Thread Daniel

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Daniel:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Daniel:

Ray_Net wrote:



I juste resent you the same mail at the following adress TBR removed:
dxmt...@albtbrury.net.au


What are the TBR's for, Ray??


To be removed. Remove the TBR's and you have the address to which Ray
has sent the mail. Should be correct, assuming, the nospam in your
address is also TBR. *g*


Thanks for the explanation, Hartmut, but where would they come from??
Their not in the e-mail address that I use to send to this NG, are they??


It is the e-mail address in your 'From: '. It is questionable, if the
'nospam' there should be removed or not. I have read arguments for both
decisions. Ray used the TBR's to avoid writing your e-mail here in the
newsgroup.

Hartmut


Oh, o.k., then thank you for your consideration, Ray, but I still 
haven't received either e-mail!!


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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-10 Thread Daniel

WaltS wrote:

On 04/10/2013 09:29 AM, Daniel wrote:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Daniel:

Ray_Net wrote:



I juste resent you the same mail at the following adress TBR removed:
dxmt...@albtbrury.net.au


What are the TBR's for, Ray??


To be removed. Remove the TBR's and you have the address to which Ray
has sent the mail. Should be correct, assuming, the nospam in your
address is also TBR. *g*

Hartmut


Thanks for the explanation, Hartmut, but where would they come from??
Their not in the e-mail address that I use to send to this NG, are they??



Daniel they aren't in the address. Just there in the post so no bots
mine your email address from his post.


Thanks for the explanation, Walt!

YLYL!!

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-10 Thread Hartmut Figge
Daniel:

Oh, o.k., then thank you for your consideration, Ray, but I still 
haven't received either e-mail!!

It is OT here, but, hm. This post will also be sent to your e-mail
address. Without the 'nospam'. Did you receive the mail?

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-09 Thread Ray_Net

»Q« wrote, On 09/04/2013 03:31:

On Mon, 08 Apr 2013 23:22:54 +0100
Philip TAYLOR p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk wrote:


Ray_Net wrote:


then as asked i have attached the file-save-file-eml format

No attachment received here.

Ray attached it to the bug,
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776096#c15.

Correct. I have also to say that the bug i have and reproductible by 
Tony Mechelynck mailto:antoine.mechely...@gmail.com

could be corrected by 2 different ways.
1. Perhaps that creating SPACE + CRLF instead of creating CRLF + SPACE + 
CRLF when sending the mail - or perhaps removing the trailing spaces 
before sending.

2. Solving only the display of the subject in the Thread-pane.

I prefer the second solution, because i encountered this problem for the 
first time from a guy not using SM as mail-client.
If the first solution(s) is used, i still will encounter the bug with a 
mail coming from the same guy.

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-09 Thread Ray_Net

Ray_Net wrote, On 09/04/2013 08:24:

»Q« wrote, On 09/04/2013 03:31:

On Mon, 08 Apr 2013 23:22:54 +0100
Philip TAYLOR p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk wrote:


Ray_Net wrote:


then as asked i have attached the file-save-file-eml format

No attachment received here.

Ray attached it to the bug,
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776096#c15.

Correct. I have also to say that the bug i have and reproductible by 
Tony Mechelynck mailto:antoine.mechely...@gmail.com

could be corrected by 2 different ways.
1. Perhaps that creating SPACE + CRLF instead of creating CRLF + SPACE 
+ CRLF when sending the mail - or perhaps removing the trailing spaces 
before sending.

2. Solving only the display of the subject in the Thread-pane.

I prefer the second solution, because i encountered this problem for 
the first time from a guy not using SM as mail-client.
If the first solution(s) is used, i still will encounter the bug with 
a mail coming from the same guy.
More info: The same mail sent to my gmail box did not exhibit the 
problem when using the webmail interface. In that point of vue, Gmail is 
perfect.

If i access my gmail box by using SM in pop mode, SM have the problem.
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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-09 Thread Daniel

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote, On 08/04/2013 15:43:

Ray_Net wrote:


Snip


May i sent a mail with a subject ending with a space from my pc to one
or you ?


Ray, you can e-mail me if you wish!! Remove the nospam. from my
munged address here!


Just done - hoping you have the same problem.


Nothing heard, Ray, do you want to try again??

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-09 Thread »Q«
On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 08:24:57 +0200
Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote:

 »Q« wrote, On 09/04/2013 03:31:
  On Mon, 08 Apr 2013 23:22:54 +0100
  Philip TAYLOR p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk wrote:
 
  Ray_Net wrote:
 
  then as asked i have attached the file-save-file-eml format
  No attachment received here.
  Ray attached it to the bug,
  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776096#c15.
 
 Correct. I have also to say that the bug i have and reproductible by 
 Tony Mechelynck mailto:antoine.mechely...@gmail.com
 could be corrected by 2 different ways.
 1. Perhaps that creating SPACE + CRLF instead of creating CRLF +
 SPACE + CRLF when sending the mail - or perhaps removing the trailing
 spaces before sending.
 2. Solving only the display of the subject in the Thread-pane.
 
 I prefer the second solution, because i encountered this problem for
 the first time from a guy not using SM as mail-client.
 If the first solution(s) is used, i still will encounter the bug with
 a mail coming from the same guy.

Folding headers in such a way that an entire folded line consists of
only whitespace is something a client MUST NOT do, per RFC 2822
§3.2.3.  IMO, SeaMonkey sending out e-mails with bad headers is a worse
problem than what SeaMonkey does when it receives e-mails with bad
headers, but it would be nice if both could be fixed.


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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-09 Thread Ray_Net

»Q« wrote, On 09/04/2013 18:01:

On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 08:24:57 +0200
Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote:


»Q« wrote, On 09/04/2013 03:31:

On Mon, 08 Apr 2013 23:22:54 +0100
Philip TAYLOR p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk wrote:


Ray_Net wrote:


then as asked i have attached the file-save-file-eml format

No attachment received here.

Ray attached it to the bug,
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776096#c15.


Correct. I have also to say that the bug i have and reproductible by
Tony Mechelynck mailto:antoine.mechely...@gmail.com
could be corrected by 2 different ways.
1. Perhaps that creating SPACE + CRLF instead of creating CRLF +
SPACE + CRLF when sending the mail - or perhaps removing the trailing
spaces before sending.
2. Solving only the display of the subject in the Thread-pane.

I prefer the second solution, because i encountered this problem for
the first time from a guy not using SM as mail-client.
If the first solution(s) is used, i still will encounter the bug with
a mail coming from the same guy.

Folding headers in such a way that an entire folded line consists of
only whitespace is something a client MUST NOT do, per RFC 2822
§3.2.3.  IMO, SeaMonkey sending out e-mails with bad headers is a worse
problem than what SeaMonkey does when it receives e-mails with bad
headers, but it would be nice if both could be fixed.

I agree, if both is fixed, all is perfect, however, if SM did not create 
the problem, we cannot test the display problem :-)


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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-09 Thread Ray_Net

Daniel wrote, On 09/04/2013 15:12:

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote, On 08/04/2013 15:43:

Ray_Net wrote:


Snip


May i sent a mail with a subject ending with a space from my pc to one
or you ?


Ray, you can e-mail me if you wish!! Remove the nospam. from my
munged address here!


Just done - hoping you have the same problem.


Nothing heard, Ray, do you want to try again??

I juste resent you the same mail at the following adress TBR removed: 
dxmt...@albtbrury.net.au

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-08 Thread Ray_Net

Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 08/04/2013 00:37:

»Q« wrote:

On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 22:24:08 +0100
Philip TAYLOR p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk wrote:


Ray_Net wrote:


You can test it easily by sending to yourself this kind of mail
with a SPACE as the last character of the Subject string.
Then you have the problem in the Sent folder AND in the Inbox
folder. Here is my first tests - 
http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/GOT-IT.jpg



Unable to replicate.


Same here.


Me three.

Ouille Ouille . Did you think that i should upgrade -  the 
correction has been applied in the latest version ?

Or my pc is special ?
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909 
Firefox/15.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.12.1

Build identifier: 20120909051100
Windows 7 pro SP1

May i sent a mail with a subject ending with a space from my pc to one 
or you ?

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-08 Thread Daniel

Ray_Net wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 08/04/2013 00:37:

»Q« wrote:

On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 22:24:08 +0100
Philip TAYLOR p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk wrote:


Ray_Net wrote:


You can test it easily by sending to yourself this kind of mail
with a SPACE as the last character of the Subject string.
Then you have the problem in the Sent folder AND in the Inbox
folder. Here is my first tests - 
http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/GOT-IT.jpg



Unable to replicate.


Same here.


Me three.


Ouille Ouille . Did you think that i should upgrade -  the
correction has been applied in the latest version ?
Or my pc is special ?
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909
Firefox/15.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.12.1
 Build identifier: 20120909051100
Windows 7 pro SP1

May i sent a mail with a subject ending with a space from my pc to one
or you ?


Ray, you can e-mail me if you wish!! Remove the nospam. from my munged 
address here!


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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-08 Thread Ray_Net

Daniel wrote, On 08/04/2013 15:43:

Ray_Net wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 08/04/2013 00:37:

»Q« wrote:

On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 22:24:08 +0100
Philip TAYLOR p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk wrote:


Ray_Net wrote:


You can test it easily by sending to yourself this kind of mail
with a SPACE as the last character of the Subject string.
Then you have the problem in the Sent folder AND in the Inbox
folder. Here is my first tests - 
http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/GOT-IT.jpg



Unable to replicate.


Same here.


Me three.


Ouille Ouille . Did you think that i should upgrade -  the
correction has been applied in the latest version ?
Or my pc is special ?
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909
Firefox/15.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.12.1
 Build identifier: 20120909051100
Windows 7 pro SP1

May i sent a mail with a subject ending with a space from my pc to one
or you ?


Ray, you can e-mail me if you wish!! Remove the nospam. from my 
munged address here!



Just done - hoping you have the same problem.
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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-08 Thread »Q«
On Mon, 08 Apr 2013 14:08:00 +0200
Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote:

 Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 08/04/2013 00:37:
  »Q« wrote:  
  On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 22:24:08 +0100
  Philip TAYLOR p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk wrote:
   
  Ray_Net wrote:
   
  You can test it easily by sending to yourself this kind of mail
  with a SPACE as the last character of the Subject string.
  Then you have the problem in the Sent folder AND in the Inbox
  folder. Here is my first tests - 
  http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/GOT-IT.jpg  
   
  Unable to replicate.  
 
  Same here.  
 
  Me three.
   
 Ouille Ouille . Did you think that i should upgrade -  the 
 correction has been applied in the latest version ?

It's better not to file bugs for old products, since they are no longer
worked on.  I thought you had the latest version already, else I
wouldn't have been looking at any of this.

 Or my pc is special ?
 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909 
 Firefox/15.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.12.1
  Build identifier: 20120909051100
 Windows 7 pro SP1
 
 May i sent a mail with a subject ending with a space from my pc to
 one or you ?

Upgrade to the newest SeaMonkey, create such an e-mail, then attach it
to the bug you filed.  Phoenix left a comment there with instructions.

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-08 Thread Ray_Net

»Q« wrote, On 08/04/2013 20:40:

On Mon, 08 Apr 2013 14:08:00 +0200
Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 08/04/2013 00:37:

»Q« wrote:

On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 22:24:08 +0100
Philip TAYLOR p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk wrote:
  

Ray_Net wrote:
  

You can test it easily by sending to yourself this kind of mail
with a SPACE as the last character of the Subject string.
Then you have the problem in the Sent folder AND in the Inbox
folder. Here is my first tests - 
http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/GOT-IT.jpg
  

Unable to replicate.

Same here.

Me three.
  

Ouille Ouille . Did you think that i should upgrade -  the
correction has been applied in the latest version ?

It's better not to file bugs for old products, since they are no longer
worked on.  I thought you had the latest version already, else I
wouldn't have been looking at any of this.


Or my pc is special ?
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909
Firefox/15.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.12.1
  Build identifier: 20120909051100
Windows 7 pro SP1

May i sent a mail with a subject ending with a space from my pc to
one or you ?

Upgrade to the newest SeaMonkey, create such an e-mail, then attach it
to the bug you filed.  Phoenix left a comment there with instructions.

This is what i have done - following your instructions and the 
instructions given by Phoenix:

I just upgraded to the latest SM version

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17

Build identifier: 20130331213155

and i still have the problem.
then as asked i have attached the file-save-file-eml format
This is the name contructed by SM:
Test Subject line containing 66 characters plus a space -- 
Content-Type  text_plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=.eml

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-08 Thread Philip TAYLOR


Ray_Net wrote:

 then as asked i have attached the file-save-file-eml format

No attachment received here.
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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-08 Thread »Q«
On Mon, 08 Apr 2013 23:22:54 +0100
Philip TAYLOR p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk wrote:

 Ray_Net wrote:
 
  then as asked i have attached the file-save-file-eml format
 
 No attachment received here.

Ray attached it to the bug,
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776096#c15.

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-07 Thread Ray_Net

»Q« wrote, On 07/04/2013 03:47:

On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 00:29:24 +0200
Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote:


»Q« wrote, On 05/04/2013 23:22:

On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 22:55:58 +0200
Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote:


Just to mention, in my opinion, for displaying a subject, the
collection of characters from the mail should end at the first
encountered crlf. Isn't it ?

No.

So, you think that the subject of a mail can be shown and created on
more than one line ? I never seen that possibility.
Could you enlighten me ?

A tutorial on how message headers must be constructed is beyond both the
scope of this newsgroup and the scope of what I'm willing to type.  It's
all specified in very detailed RFCs which are easy to find.  The
specific bit you have become curious about is known as header folding,
but unless you understand header construction in general, it won't make
much sense.  You can find correctly used CRLFs immediately after the
word SeaMonkey's in the Subject headers of your own posts in this
thread, in case it helps you to start with an example.


Thanks a lot ... you help me alot to pinpoint the problem - it's now 
REPRODUCTIBLE at will !!!

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776096
Here is my updated text for this bug:
GOOD NEWS, the problem is REPRODUCTIBLE:
When you receive a mail and the mail Subject have as the last character 
a SPACE 
The next header line is added at the end of the Subject string. and ONLY 
in the Thread-pane's Subject window.
You can test it easely by sending to yourself this kind of mail with a 
SPACE as the last character of the Subject string.

Then you have the problem in the Sent folder AND in the Inbox folder.
Here is my first tests -  http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/GOT-IT.jpg
Picture also hereattached labelled screen copy showing the problem
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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-07 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Unable to replicate.

Ray_Net wrote:

 You can test it easely by sending to yourself this kind of mail with a
 SPACE as the last character of the Subject string.
 Then you have the problem in the Sent folder AND in the Inbox folder.
 Here is my first tests -  http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/GOT-IT.jpg
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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-07 Thread »Q«
On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 22:24:08 +0100
Philip TAYLOR p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk wrote:

 Ray_Net wrote:
 
  You can test it easely by sending to yourself this kind of mail
  with a SPACE as the last character of the Subject string.
  Then you have the problem in the Sent folder AND in the Inbox
  folder. Here is my first tests - 
  http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/GOT-IT.jpg

 Unable to replicate.

Same here.
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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-07 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

»Q« wrote:

On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 22:24:08 +0100
Philip TAYLOR p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk wrote:


Ray_Net wrote:


You can test it easily by sending to yourself this kind of mail
with a SPACE as the last character of the Subject string.
Then you have the problem in the Sent folder AND in the Inbox
folder. Here is my first tests - 
http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/GOT-IT.jpg



Unable to replicate.


Same here.


Me three.

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-06 Thread Ray_Net

»Q« wrote, On 05/04/2013 23:22:

On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 22:55:58 +0200
Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote:


Just to mention, in my opinion, for displaying a subject, the
collection of characters from the mail should end at the first
encountered crlf. Isn't it ?

No.
So, you think that the subject of a mail can be shown and created on 
more than one line ? I never seen that possibility.

Could you enlighten me ?
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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-06 Thread »Q«
On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 00:29:24 +0200
Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote:

 »Q« wrote, On 05/04/2013 23:22:
  On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 22:55:58 +0200
  Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote:
 
  Just to mention, in my opinion, for displaying a subject, the
  collection of characters from the mail should end at the first
  encountered crlf. Isn't it ?
  No.

 So, you think that the subject of a mail can be shown and created on 
 more than one line ? I never seen that possibility.
 Could you enlighten me ?

A tutorial on how message headers must be constructed is beyond both the
scope of this newsgroup and the scope of what I'm willing to type.  It's
all specified in very detailed RFCs which are easy to find.  The
specific bit you have become curious about is known as header folding,
but unless you understand header construction in general, it won't make
much sense.  You can find correctly used CRLFs immediately after the
word SeaMonkey's in the Subject headers of your own posts in this
thread, in case it helps you to start with an example.


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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-05 Thread »Q«
On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 22:55:58 +0200
Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote:

 Just to mention, in my opinion, for displaying a subject, the
 collection of characters from the mail should end at the first
 encountered crlf. Isn't it ?

No.
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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-04 Thread Ray_Net

»Q« wrote, On 03/04/2013 19:01:

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 18:27:46 +0200
Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote:


»Q« wrote, On 03/04/2013 18:22:

If the *current* version of SeaMonkey does produce such a problem
e-mail, I'd say there's a bug worth pursuing, but there's not enough
information at this point to pursue anything about it.

Just to mention that with this pseudo-bad mail SM can display
CORRECTLY the subject in the preview pane.
How did you explain that ?

If SeaMonkey displays a mangled e-mail well (whatever well should
mean) in the preview pane, that's good luck.  I haven't looked for an
explanation for it in this case, because it's not relevant to what the
actual problem is.

Just to mention, in my opinion, for displaying a subject, the collection 
of characters from the mail should end at the first encountered crlf.

Isn't it ?
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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-03 Thread Ray_Net

Hartmut Figge wrote, On 03/04/2013 00:19:

Ray_Net:


I don't know if this time, this is also a TAB causing the problem.
Initially the problem was in two mails i received (i got also same
problem from same sender) - but now, the problem is in a mail i have sent.
When i use SM view message source i see an extra line between the
subject text and the next header. This extra line is not present with a
mail not exhibited the problem.
This is what i have:

 From - Thu Mar 21 22:15:43 2013
X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
X-Mozilla-Status2: 0080
X-Mozilla-Keys:
Message-ID: 514b787e.4090...@scarlet.be
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 22:15:42 +0100
From: Raymond Schmit raymond.sch...@scarlet.be
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909 Firefox/15.0.1 
SeaMonkey/2.12.1
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: RandoEvasion cont...@randoevasion.be
Subject: Tu ne peux pas me faire des vacheries telles que celle ci  :-)
  
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;

  boundary=000708000902050407000403

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--000708000902050407000403
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Comme j'avais un peu de retard et comme j'avais déjà préparé:

etc 

There is a problem with this mail. In the first line is a leading space
before the 'From - ' which does not belong there. Copy  paste error?
After removing that space the mail displays fine.

The line after 'Subject:' consists of two spaces. Not harmful. Why
bother? :)

Hartmut

I just complain because i see in mail list:

Subject: Tu ne peux pas me faire des vacheries telles que celle ci  
:-)Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
with the text:
Comme j'avais un peu de retard et comme j'avais déjà préparé:

on one line


and in the preview pane all is ok and i see
Subject: Tu ne peux pas me faire des vacheries telles que celle ci  :-)
with the text:
Comme j'avais un peu de retard et comme j'avais déjà préparé:

You say : After removing that space ... when i have mail in SM, i cannot and i 
will not modify into the huge amont of mails a pecific mail.
I don't understand why you don't understand my problem.

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-03 Thread Ray_Net

»Q« wrote, On 03/04/2013 00:02:

On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 23:46:48 +0200
Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote:


»Q« wrote, On 01/04/2013 23:59:

On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 22:05:13 +0200
Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote:


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776096

SM created itself the bug  - because i have the problem in the
Sent folder.

No one interested ?

Need either an example e-mail or (preferably) steps needed to create
one.

I did not know how to post soemwhere the pure text of the mail, i am
not sure if the SM action View Message source can be used to
copy/paste in notepad(i suspect that notepad can alter the text) or
another text editor to save it on my website

Forward it as an attachment.


I cannot reproduce the problem, this is the first time i see it
caused by the copy of the sended mail (created by SM) into the SM
Sent folder.

Showing use the e-mail may get you information about what's wrong with
it, if anything.

If SeaMonkey actually is creating bad e-mails, it would be worth filing
a bug about, but without steps to reproduce it wouldn't be a very
useful bug.

Sorry, SM did not produce bad mail in 99, % i cannot give steps 
to follow,
what i say is that SM have a bug, because SM display the subject of the 
same mail differently when SM display it in the mail list an when SM 
display it in the preview pane.


The problem is not in the mail, the problem is in SM rendering the 
Subject line.

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-03 Thread Hartmut Figge
Ray_Net:

Subject: Tu ne peux pas me faire des vacheries telles que celle ci  
:-)Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
with the text:
Comme j'avais un peu de retard et comme j'avais déjà préparé:

on one line

That could be the effect of TABs.

and in the preview pane all is ok and i see
Subject: Tu ne peux pas me faire des vacheries telles que celle ci  :-)
with the text:
Comme j'avais un peu de retard et comme j'avais déjà préparé:

You say : After removing that space ... when i have mail in SM, i cannot and i 
will not modify into the huge amont of mails a pecific mail.

A good length for a line would be 72. ;)

I don't understand why you don't understand my problem.

Because i do not see it here. Perhaps CP problem again. The best way to
avoid this kind of confusion would be to attach the mail and not use the
body to display it.

As an example, this is how i would show a short patch to a NG. It can be
used directly without the possibility of CP errors. But do this only
for short attachments! Larger ones should be uploaded and the link given.

Hartmut
--- src/mozilla/netwerk/protocol/http/nsHttpHandler.cpp 2012-11-29 
01:11:53.104596658 +0100
+++ /home/hafi/moz-patch/generate/59/nsHttpHandler.cpp  2012-11-29 
03:24:33.0 +0100
@@ -286,8 +286,8 @@ nsHttpHandler::Init()
 #endif
 if (mProductSub.IsEmpty()  appInfo)
 appInfo-GetPlatformBuildID(mProductSub);
-if (mProductSub.Length()  8)
-mProductSub.SetLength(8);
+if (mProductSub.Length()  10)
+mProductSub.SetLength(10);
 
 #if DEBUG
 // dump user agent prefs
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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-03 Thread Ray_Net

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote, On 03/04/2013 00:17:

Ray_Net wrote:


I did not know how to post soemwhere the pure text of the mail, i am not
sure if the SM action View Message source can be used to copy/paste in
notepad(i suspect that notepad can alter the text) or another text
editor

I doubt if any text editor worth its salt would alter your text, even
the cheesy Notepad. Be sure, if there's a choice, to turn word wrap off.


to save it on my website

Surround the raw text of the View Source with pre and /pre tags.
Simple. Add this in the body of a page.


Good idea , here is the mail that show the SM problem:
http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/testmail.htm

The problem is not in the mail(this time created by sm) - the problem is 
the two different rendering in SM of the Subject of this mail

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-03 Thread »Q«
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 10:23:41 +0200
Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote:

 »Q« wrote, On 03/04/2013 00:02:
  On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 23:46:48 +0200
  Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote:
 
  »Q« wrote, On 01/04/2013 23:59:
  On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 22:05:13 +0200
  Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote:
 
  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776096
 
  SM created itself the bug  - because i have the problem in the
  Sent folder.
 
  No one interested ?
  Need either an example e-mail or (preferably) steps needed to
  create one.
  I did not know how to post soemwhere the pure text of the mail, i
  am not sure if the SM action View Message source can be used to
  copy/paste in notepad(i suspect that notepad can alter the text) or
  another text editor to save it on my website
  Forward it as an attachment.
 
  I cannot reproduce the problem, this is the first time i see it
  caused by the copy of the sended mail (created by SM) into the SM
  Sent folder.
  Showing use the e-mail may get you information about what's wrong
  with it, if anything.
 
  If SeaMonkey actually is creating bad e-mails, it would be worth
  filing a bug about, but without steps to reproduce it wouldn't be a
  very useful bug.
 
 Sorry, SM did not produce bad mail in 99, % i cannot give
 steps to follow,
 what i say is that SM have a bug, because SM display the subject of
 the same mail differently when SM display it in the mail list an when
 SM display it in the preview pane.
 
 The problem is not in the mail, the problem is in SM rendering the 
 Subject line.

So far, with the only bits of e-mails I've been able to look at from
the bug report, the problem is with the mails themselves.  This
includes the one you posted at
http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/testmail.htm.  It has a space
character, whereas the other ones had tab characters, but the effect is
the same.

If the *current* version of SeaMonkey does produce such a problem
e-mail, I'd say there's a bug worth pursuing, but there's not enough
information at this point to pursue anything about it.

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-03 Thread Ray_Net

»Q« wrote, On 03/04/2013 18:22:

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 10:23:41 +0200
Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote:


»Q« wrote, On 03/04/2013 00:02:

On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 23:46:48 +0200
Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote:


»Q« wrote, On 01/04/2013 23:59:

On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 22:05:13 +0200
Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote:


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776096

SM created itself the bug  - because i have the problem in the
Sent folder.

No one interested ?

Need either an example e-mail or (preferably) steps needed to
create one.

I did not know how to post soemwhere the pure text of the mail, i
am not sure if the SM action View Message source can be used to
copy/paste in notepad(i suspect that notepad can alter the text) or
another text editor to save it on my website

Forward it as an attachment.


I cannot reproduce the problem, this is the first time i see it
caused by the copy of the sended mail (created by SM) into the SM
Sent folder.

Showing use the e-mail may get you information about what's wrong
with it, if anything.

If SeaMonkey actually is creating bad e-mails, it would be worth
filing a bug about, but without steps to reproduce it wouldn't be a
very useful bug.


Sorry, SM did not produce bad mail in 99, % i cannot give
steps to follow,
what i say is that SM have a bug, because SM display the subject of
the same mail differently when SM display it in the mail list an when
SM display it in the preview pane.

The problem is not in the mail, the problem is in SM rendering the
Subject line.

So far, with the only bits of e-mails I've been able to look at from
the bug report, the problem is with the mails themselves.  This
includes the one you posted at
http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/testmail.htm.  It has a space
character, whereas the other ones had tab characters, but the effect is
the same.

If the *current* version of SeaMonkey does produce such a problem
e-mail, I'd say there's a bug worth pursuing, but there's not enough
information at this point to pursue anything about it.

Just to mention that with this pseudo-bad mail SM can display CORRECTLY 
the subject in the preview pane.

How did you explain that ?
I have an explanation: The guy who wrote the preview pane is a GOOD 
programmer. the guy who wrote the thread-pane is a BAD programmer.

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-03 Thread »Q«
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 18:27:46 +0200
Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote:

 »Q« wrote, On 03/04/2013 18:22:

  If the *current* version of SeaMonkey does produce such a problem
  e-mail, I'd say there's a bug worth pursuing, but there's not enough
  information at this point to pursue anything about it.
 
 Just to mention that with this pseudo-bad mail SM can display
 CORRECTLY the subject in the preview pane.
 How did you explain that ?

If SeaMonkey displays a mangled e-mail well (whatever well should
mean) in the preview pane, that's good luck.  I haven't looked for an
explanation for it in this case, because it's not relevant to what the
actual problem is.

 I have an explanation: The guy who wrote the preview pane is a GOOD 
 programmer. the guy who wrote the thread-pane is a BAD programmer.

That's a very interesting and ill-informed opinion.  I think the best
thing for me to do from now on is to ignore your threads.  Good luck
with whatever it is you're trying to accomplish here.

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-02 Thread Ray_Net

WaltS wrote, On 01/04/2013 22:24:

Ray_Net wrote:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776096

SM created itself the bug  - because i have the problem in the Sent
folder.

No one interested ?



You really should keep up with updates. I don't see your problem using 
SeaMonkey 2.16.2.


SeaMonkey 2.17 should be out this week.

I got this problem earlier with a version, soem guy said: You are not on 
the latest version.
I upgraded with the latest version - and the problem occurred also with 
that version.
The problem cannot be solved by using a new version the bug, is there, 
still there and if nobody try ti-o cure it, it will be ALWAYS there.

I have asked : what can i do to help someone able to solve this issue .
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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-02 Thread Ray_Net

Hartmut Figge wrote, On 02/04/2013 00:23:

»Q«:


I suspect the reason you can't reproduce it is that you haven't
copied/pasted the headers exactly.  Note the tab characters in the
headers in Ray's bug comment, between the Subject and To headers.

Oh. I am using the mc which is configured to repclace TABs with Spaces.
A new try using emacs now contains TABs.


My SeaMonkey displays them as Ray's does.

Funny thing. I do see only one mail now despite the fact that there are
two and the Subject of the one is like Ray's.


It doesn't look like a SeaMonkey bug to me, though, just mails with
bad headers.

It depends on if a TAB is a valid character. *g* Nevertheless, you have
found the culprit. :)

Hartmut

I don't know if this time, this is also a TAB causing the problem.
Initially the problem was in two mails i received (i got also same 
problem from same sender) - but now, the problem is in a mail i have sent.
When i use SM view message source i see an extra line between the 
subject text and the next header. This extra line is not present with a 
mail not exhibited the problem.

This is what i have:

From - Thu Mar 21 22:15:43 2013
X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
X-Mozilla-Status2: 0080
X-Mozilla-Keys:
Message-ID: 514b787e.4090...@scarlet.be
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 22:15:42 +0100
From: Raymond Schmit raymond.sch...@scarlet.be
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909 Firefox/15.0.1 
SeaMonkey/2.12.1
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: RandoEvasion cont...@randoevasion.be
Subject: Tu ne peux pas me faire des vacheries telles que celle ci  :-)
 
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;

 boundary=000708000902050407000403

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--000708000902050407000403
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Comme j'avais un peu de retard et comme j'avais déjà préparé:

etc 

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-02 Thread Ray_Net

»Q« wrote, On 01/04/2013 23:59:

On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 22:05:13 +0200
Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote:


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776096

SM created itself the bug  - because i have the problem in the Sent
folder.

No one interested ?

Need either an example e-mail or (preferably) steps needed to create
one.
I did not know how to post soemwhere the pure text of the mail, i am not 
sure if the SM action View Message source can be used to copy/paste in 
notepad(i suspect that notepad can alter the text) or another text 
editor to save it on my website


I cannot reproduce the problem, this is the first time i see it caused 
by the copy of the sended mail (created by SM) into the SM Sent folder.


Perhaps i can copy/paste the View Message Source of this bad mail in a 
mail i can send to someone able to cure the problem.
What i can say is that this Subject addition is only present in the list 
of mails, and is not present in the view or preview of this mail.


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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-02 Thread Ray_Net

Hartmut Figge wrote, On 01/04/2013 23:23:

WaltS:

On 04/01/2013 04:48 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:

Ray, have you tested in safe-mode? With a new profile?

Ray doesn't want to try this suggestion.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776096#c4

The offending line is referencing an antivirus app. No?

The SM of Ray should see exactly the same mails as my SM, including the
headers beginning with X- which will be ignored by SM. Something is
broken with the SM of Ray.

Hartmut
Why did you say that my SM is broken, when other people have the same 
result with the headers i have sent ?
and if my SM is broken, why when opening the mail  or looking at the 
preview pane, the Subject did not have an extra text coming from the 
next header line ?

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-02 Thread »Q«
On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 23:46:48 +0200
Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote:

 »Q« wrote, On 01/04/2013 23:59:
  On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 22:05:13 +0200
  Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote:
 
  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776096
 
  SM created itself the bug  - because i have the problem in the
  Sent folder.
 
  No one interested ?
  Need either an example e-mail or (preferably) steps needed to create
  one.
 I did not know how to post soemwhere the pure text of the mail, i am
 not sure if the SM action View Message source can be used to
 copy/paste in notepad(i suspect that notepad can alter the text) or
 another text editor to save it on my website

Forward it as an attachment.

 I cannot reproduce the problem, this is the first time i see it
 caused by the copy of the sended mail (created by SM) into the SM
 Sent folder.

Showing use the e-mail may get you information about what's wrong with
it, if anything.

If SeaMonkey actually is creating bad e-mails, it would be worth filing
a bug about, but without steps to reproduce it wouldn't be a very
useful bug.

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-02 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Ray_Net wrote:

 I did not know how to post soemwhere the pure text of the mail, i am not
 sure if the SM action View Message source can be used to copy/paste in
 notepad(i suspect that notepad can alter the text) or another text
 editor

I doubt if any text editor worth its salt would alter your text, even 
the cheesy Notepad. Be sure, if there's a choice, to turn word wrap off.

 to save it on my website

Surround the raw text of the View Source with pre and /pre tags. 
Simple. Add this in the body of a page.

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   -This space for rent, but the price is high
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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-02 Thread Hartmut Figge
Ray_Net:

I don't know if this time, this is also a TAB causing the problem.
Initially the problem was in two mails i received (i got also same 
problem from same sender) - but now, the problem is in a mail i have sent.
When i use SM view message source i see an extra line between the 
subject text and the next header. This extra line is not present with a 
mail not exhibited the problem.
This is what i have:

 From - Thu Mar 21 22:15:43 2013
X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
X-Mozilla-Status2: 0080
X-Mozilla-Keys:
Message-ID: 514b787e.4090...@scarlet.be
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 22:15:42 +0100
From: Raymond Schmit raymond.sch...@scarlet.be
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909 
Firefox/15.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.12.1
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: RandoEvasion cont...@randoevasion.be
Subject: Tu ne peux pas me faire des vacheries telles que celle ci  :-)
  
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
  boundary=000708000902050407000403

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--000708000902050407000403
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Comme j'avais un peu de retard et comme j'avais déjà préparé:

etc 

There is a problem with this mail. In the first line is a leading space
before the 'From - ' which does not belong there. Copy  paste error?
After removing that space the mail displays fine.

The line after 'Subject:' consists of two spaces. Not harmful. Why
bother? :)

Hartmut
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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-02 Thread Hartmut Figge
Ray_Net:
Hartmut Figge wrote, On 01/04/2013 23:23:

 The SM of Ray should see exactly the same mails as my SM, including the
 headers beginning with X- which will be ignored by SM. Something is
 broken with the SM of Ray.

Why did you say that my SM is broken, [...]

Because of http://www.triffids.de/pub/tmp/ray which was fine with my SM.
That was before »Q« pointed to potentially missing TABs because of CP.
And so it was indeed.

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-01 Thread WaltS

Ray_Net wrote:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776096

SM created itself the bug  - because i have the problem in the Sent
folder.

No one interested ?



You really should keep up with updates. I don't see your problem using 
SeaMonkey 2.16.2.


SeaMonkey 2.17 should be out this week.

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-01 Thread Philip TAYLOR


WaltS wrote:

 You really should keep up with updates. I don't see your problem using
 SeaMonkey 2.16.2.

It is not clear if anyone other than Ray_Net has seen it, in any version.

Philip Taylor
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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-01 Thread Hartmut Figge
Philip TAYLOR:
WaltS wrote:

 You really should keep up with updates. I don't see your problem using
 SeaMonkey 2.16.2.

It is not clear if anyone other than Ray_Net has seen it, in any version.

The two examples of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776096
are displayed so in my SM:
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/ray.png

Ray, have you tested in safe-mode? With a new profile?

Hartmut
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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-01 Thread Philip TAYLOR


Hartmut Figge wrote:

 The two examples of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776096
 are displayed so in my SM:
 http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/ray.png

It is unclear that you are replicating Ray_Net's scenario :
I see no indicated that this is a threaded view.

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-01 Thread Philip TAYLOR


Hartmut Figge wrote:

 The two examples of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776096
 are displayed so in my SM:
 http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/ray.png

It is unclear that you are replicating Ray_Net's scenario :
I see no indication that this is a threaded view.

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-01 Thread Hartmut Figge
Philip TAYLOR:
Hartmut Figge wrote:

 http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/ray.png

It is unclear that you are replicating Ray_Net's scenario :
I see no indication that this is a threaded view.

Look at https://bug776096.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=644463
The Subject-Line in the thread pane contains not only the Subject. There
are nice red underlinings. :)

You can test for yourself. Close SM and copy the file ray from
http://www.triffids.de/pub/tmp/ray to the directory of your profile
containing the Inbox. The next start von SM will show the folder ray
with the two mails.

Hartmut
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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-01 Thread WaltS

On 04/01/2013 04:48 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:

Philip TAYLOR:

WaltS wrote:



You really should keep up with updates. I don't see your problem using
SeaMonkey 2.16.2.


It is not clear if anyone other than Ray_Net has seen it, in any version.


The two examples of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776096
are displayed so in my SM:
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/ray.png

Ray, have you tested in safe-mode? With a new profile?

Hartmut



Ray doesn't want to try this suggestion.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776096#c4

The offending line is referencing an antivirus app. No?

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-01 Thread Hartmut Figge
WaltS:
On 04/01/2013 04:48 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:

 Ray, have you tested in safe-mode? With a new profile?

Ray doesn't want to try this suggestion.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776096#c4

The offending line is referencing an antivirus app. No?

The SM of Ray should see exactly the same mails as my SM, including the
headers beginning with X- which will be ignored by SM. Something is
broken with the SM of Ray.

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-01 Thread »Q«
On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 23:23:10 +0200
Hartmut Figge h.fi...@gmx.de wrote:

 WaltS:
 On 04/01/2013 04:48 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 
  Ray, have you tested in safe-mode? With a new profile?
 
 Ray doesn't want to try this suggestion.
 
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776096#c4
 
 The offending line is referencing an antivirus app. No?
 
 The SM of Ray should see exactly the same mails as my SM, including
 the headers beginning with X- which will be ignored by SM. Something
 is broken with the SM of Ray.

I suspect the reason you can't reproduce it is that you haven't
copied/pasted the headers exactly.  Note the tab characters in the
headers in Ray's bug comment, between the Subject and To headers.  My
SeaMonkey displays them as Ray's does.  It doesn't look like a
SeaMonkey bug to me, though, just mails with bad headers.




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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-01 Thread Philip TAYLOR


»Q« wrote:

 I suspect the reason you can't reproduce it is that you haven't
 copied/pasted the headers exactly.  Note the tab characters in the
 headers in Ray's bug comment, between the Subject and To headers.  My
 SeaMonkey displays them as Ray's does.  It doesn't look like a
 SeaMonkey bug to me, though, just mails with bad headers.

Yes, but can Ray_Net's bug comment be relied upon ?  Was it itself
created using copy-and-paste ?  I would argue not :  it contains
the non-word boudary.

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-01 Thread »Q«
On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 22:05:13 +0200
Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote:

 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776096
 
 SM created itself the bug  - because i have the problem in the Sent 
 folder.
 
 No one interested ?

Need either an example e-mail or (preferably) steps needed to create
one.
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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-01 Thread »Q«
On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 22:59:00 +0100
Philip TAYLOR p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk wrote:

 »Q« wrote:
 
  I suspect the reason you can't reproduce it is that you haven't
  copied/pasted the headers exactly.  Note the tab characters in the
  headers in Ray's bug comment, between the Subject and To headers.
  My SeaMonkey displays them as Ray's does.  It doesn't look like a
  SeaMonkey bug to me, though, just mails with bad headers.
 
 Yes, but can Ray_Net's bug comment be relied upon ?  Was it itself
 created using copy-and-paste ?  I would argue not :  it contains
 the non-word boudary.

That one, comment 9, isn't useful, but I can reproduce it with the
headers Ray posted in comment 3, so I expect they are exact copies of
the headers on his machine.

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Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window

2013-04-01 Thread Hartmut Figge
»Q«:

I suspect the reason you can't reproduce it is that you haven't
copied/pasted the headers exactly.  Note the tab characters in the
headers in Ray's bug comment, between the Subject and To headers.

Oh. I am using the mc which is configured to repclace TABs with Spaces.
A new try using emacs now contains TABs.

My SeaMonkey displays them as Ray's does.

Funny thing. I do see only one mail now despite the fact that there are
two and the Subject of the one is like Ray's.

It doesn't look like a SeaMonkey bug to me, though, just mails with
bad headers.

It depends on if a TAB is a valid character. *g* Nevertheless, you have
found the culprit. :)

Hartmut
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