Re: No 2nd machine Users for SM? Mac
Rufus wrote: I'm another Mac user here...I use Seamonkey and far prefer it to Safari. I think part (if not all) of your problem is that the Mozilla folders of each User are stored within the Library folders of each account, and not in the System Library folder. Try setting up things in your Admin account, then duplicating your Mozilla folder and replacing the Mozilla folder in your Guest account with the duplicate. I tried that. It doesn't help. SM still launches in the broken state, The two won't stay synched - you'll have to do that manually. I do that myself between three machines for NG filters and Bookmarks. ...hmmnn...something else you could try is to enable Roaming User for the Guest account - check Enable remote profile storage, and then select the File Copy option...browse to the Profile folder in your Admin Library Mozilla folder, and select that. I haven't tried this, but it seems plausible...if it works then you won't have to worry about synching the folders manually...I think I'm going to try this within my local net... Since I don't want the second user to have anything to do with /my/ SM I don't think I should do that, and besides, if moving the profile by hand didn't work, this wouldn't anyway. Does your second User launch SM normally? Are you using a PPC or Intel? GW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No 2nd machine Users for SM? Mac
Rufus wrote: My theory on all of this is that while the Seamonkey app is stored in the Applications folder and is available to all users on a multi-User account enabled machine, the Mozilla folder is stored in the Library folder of each individual User and is available to only the use which is logged in at the time - i.e.; each account has it's own Mozilla folder in it's own Library. That is exactly correct. Try this - open your Admin account and set up Seamonkey the way you want it, with your multiple profiles. Then copy the entire Mozilla folder from your Admin account Library to the Library folder of the second (Guest, or other) User that you have set up. Tried that before starting the thread. Didn't work. SM was still broken from that User acct. GW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No 2nd machine Users for SM? Mac
Geoff Welsh wrote: Daniel wrote: Geoff Welsh wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: create a test profile and see if the problem continues in that. Does it? I can't create a test profile. SM doesn't function. There are no menu bar items. (see pic again.) GW Geoff, try giving yourself a new profile. From the Windows Start button, make yourself down to the SeaMonkey Profile Manager (Notice I typed SeaMonkey Profile Manage, not Windows Profile Manager!!) and set yourself up with a new profile. If SeaMonkey works in this new profile, come back here and we can advise you how to move your mail and stuff into the new profile. Daniel First off, I don't use Windows, note the subject line. Secondly, /MY/ SM works just fine, I do not need to move anything. I'm talking about a new User account for my computer being able to use SM also, which as of now it cannot do. Does Windows not have User accounts, so no one understands the problem? A User account is like having a whole different computer, inside the same machine. Every App launched is in virgin mode with no prefs or profiles or Bookmarks, etc. GW Sorry, Geoff, my mistake. Yes, as I recall Windows does allow people to set up other user accounts. What confused me is your asking, in a SeaMonkey group, why the operating system doesn't allow you to do something that other operating systems do allow. Maybe you should ask in a Mac User group!! Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No 2nd machine Users for SM? Mac
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Geoff Welsh wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Geoff Welsh wrote: . I /was/ however able to create a test profile by first clicking the mail icon. The mail window is not broken (like the web window) and has a functional menu bar, so the TOOLS option was there. After creating the new profile, the web window was no longer broken (i.e. menu bar is now there). I then quit SM, and relaunched it. Now it won't even open any real windows! Just a non defined window that says: XML Parsing Error: undefined entity Location: chrome://communicator/content/profile/profileSelection.xul Line Number 53, Column 1:dialog ^ from the email program, click on Edit, Preferences, Appearance, Theme, and select either the Classic or Modern. Restart SM. Did that work? before I could do that (because I now had NO windows at all), I had to trash Application Registry, which got me back to my orig. state of problem. I then did what you said, and got the same XML parsing as before with no other windows available. GW a couple of last suggestions: first, then close SM, and remove the file localstore.rdf from your profile. Restart SM. Did that work? If not, then close SM, then delete the Chrome directory from the SM profile. Restart SM. Did this work? WARNING: If you do this, then it will also remove all your extensions and themes. You will have to reinstall them one at a time and find out which one is causing the problem. If that didn't work, then transfer your mail, bookmarks, password files, and use the other profile. Peter, just for clarity, Geoff is trying to get SM working in a second Operating System account, NOT just to get a second SM account working, i.e. the second user would boot the Mac into a guest profile, then start up SM. Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No 2nd machine Users for SM? Mac
Daniel wrote: Maybe you should ask in a Mac User group!! Daniel Since they've never heard of SM, and it's all flame wars over there, I stopped asking questions there years ago, but thanks again for the input. Since the problem exists on both my Macs, and only with SM1.1.14, not with Camino, Safari, or SM2a3, I was hoping other SM people had seen this problem too. GW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No 2nd machine Users for SM? Mac
Geoff Welsh wrote: Daniel wrote: Maybe you should ask in a Mac User group!! Daniel Since they've never heard of SM, and it's all flame wars over there, I stopped asking questions there years ago, but thanks again for the input. Since the problem exists on both my Macs, and only with SM1.1.14, not with Camino, Safari, or SM2a3, I was hoping other SM people had seen this problem too. GW I'm another Mac user here...I use Seamonkey and far prefer it to Safari. I think part (if not all) of your problem is that the Mozilla folders of each User are stored within the Library folders of each account, and not in the System Library folder. Try setting up things in your Admin account, then duplicating your Mozilla folder and replacing the Mozilla folder in your Guest account with the duplicate. The two won't stay synched - you'll have to do that manually. I do that myself between three machines for NG filters and Bookmarks. ...hmmnn...something else you could try is to enable Roaming User for the Guest account - check Enable remote profile storage, and then select the File Copy option...browse to the Profile folder in your Admin Library Mozilla folder, and select that. I haven't tried this, but it seems plausible...if it works then you won't have to worry about synching the folders manually...I think I'm going to try this within my local net... -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No 2nd machine Users for SM? Mac
Geoff Welsh wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Geoff Welsh wrote: . I /was/ however able to create a test profile by first clicking the mail icon. The mail window is not broken (like the web window) and has a functional menu bar, so the TOOLS option was there. After creating the new profile, the web window was no longer broken (i.e. menu bar is now there). I then quit SM, and relaunched it. Now it won't even open any real windows! Just a non defined window that says: XML Parsing Error: undefined entity Location: chrome://communicator/content/profile/profileSelection.xul Line Number 53, Column 1:dialog ^ from the email program, click on Edit, Preferences, Appearance, Theme, and select either the Classic or Modern. Restart SM. Did that work? before I could do that (because I now had NO windows at all), I had to trash Application Registry, which got me back to my orig. state of problem. I then did what you said, and got the same XML parsing as before with no other windows available. GW a couple of last suggestions: first, then close SM, and remove the file localstore.rdf from your profile. Restart SM. Did that work? If not, then close SM, then delete the Chrome directory from the SM profile. Restart SM. Did this work? WARNING: If you do this, then it will also remove all your extensions and themes. You will have to reinstall them one at a time and find out which one is causing the problem. If that didn't work, then transfer your mail, bookmarks, password files, and use the other profile. -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email help Emails to me may become public Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned. Peter Potamus His Magic Flying Balloon: http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3 http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No 2nd machine Users for SM? Mac
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Geoff Welsh wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Geoff Welsh wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: create a test profile and see if the problem continues in that. Does it? I can't create a test profile. SM doesn't function. There are no menu bar items. (see pic again.) what do you mean you can't create a test profile? What does the current problem have to do with you not creating a test profile? End SM. I don't know how mac works, but there should be a way to end it. If you were using windows, then you can end it with the task manager [thats ctrl+alt+del]. Mac should have something similar. Then look in the program folder [thats the folder that has a bunch of icons, and it was created when you installed SM]. Inside it is something called Profile Manager. Start that. From there, you will be able to create a test profile. Sorry I can't help you further, cause you're using a mac. If you were using windows, then thats another story. Someone who knows mac will be able to help you from what I've said. None of that applies to Mac. I /was/ however able to create a test profile by first clicking the mail icon. The mail window is not broken (like the web window) and has a functional menu bar, so the TOOLS option was there. After creating the new profile, the web window was no longer broken (i.e. menu bar is now there). I then quit SM, and relaunched it. Now it won't even open any real windows! Just a non defined window that says: XML Parsing Error: undefined entity Location: chrome://communicator/content/profile/profileSelection.xul Line Number 53, Column 1:dialog ^ Oh, well, MY SM in MY User account works fine, but I guess no guests will ever get to use SM from the other User account. GW from the email program, click on Edit, Preferences, Appearance, Theme, and select either the Classic or Modern. Restart SM. Did that work? My theory on all of this is that while the Seamonkey app is stored in the Applications folder and is available to all users on a multi-User account enabled machine, the Mozilla folder is stored in the Library folder of each individual User and is available to only the use which is logged in at the time - i.e.; each account has it's own Mozilla folder in it's own Library. Try this - open your Admin account and set up Seamonkey the way you want it, with your multiple profiles. Then copy the entire Mozilla folder from your Admin account Library to the Library folder of the second (Guest, or other) User that you have set up. If I am correct, the bookmarks, etc. of the alternate User accounts will not stay synched, but at least you will be that much further along to where you want to be. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No 2nd machine Users for SM? Mac
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Geoff Welsh wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Geoff Welsh wrote: . I /was/ however able to create a test profile by first clicking the mail icon. The mail window is not broken (like the web window) and has a functional menu bar, so the TOOLS option was there. After creating the new profile, the web window was no longer broken (i.e. menu bar is now there). I then quit SM, and relaunched it. Now it won't even open any real windows! Just a non defined window that says: XML Parsing Error: undefined entity Location: chrome://communicator/content/profile/profileSelection.xul Line Number 53, Column 1:dialog ^ from the email program, click on Edit, Preferences, Appearance, Theme, and select either the Classic or Modern. Restart SM. Did that work? before I could do that (because I now had NO windows at all), I had to trash Application Registry, which got me back to my orig. state of problem. I then did what you said, and got the same XML parsing as before with no other windows available. GW a couple of last suggestions: first, then close SM, and remove the file localstore.rdf from your profile. Restart SM. Did that work? If not, then close SM, then delete the Chrome directory from the SM profile. Restart SM. Did this work? WARNING: If you do this, then it will also remove all your extensions and themes. You will have to reinstall them one at a time and find out which one is causing the problem. I don't have any themes or extensions. I've deleted everything numerous times to no avail. If that didn't work, then transfer your mail, bookmarks, password files, and use the other profile. What other profile? Why would I want to transfer anything? You don't understand the problem. I have NO PROBLEMS when using SM from MY USER ACCOUNT. ( ~/Macintosh_HD/Users/Me ) I was trying to let another person use SM from a second user account but SM will NOT work from there. ( ~/Macintosh_HD/Users/Second_User ) I installed SM2.0a3 and that works just fine from both User accounts, so to heck with this problem. GW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No 2nd machine Users for SM? Mac
Tom Coradeschi wrote: At 07:23 PM -1000 02/06/2009, Geoff Welsh wrote: on both my Macs (G4, and G5 PPC OSX 10.4)... When you create a second (machine) User account, the new user can launch any App loaded on the machine and it starts up in a virgin state, and they can customize it as they please. This works for FF, Camino, iTunes, Safari... But SM doesn't work! It brings up a funny old style looking window with a bottom pane saying parsing error and there are no functions across the menu bar. It's totally blank. Anyone know why this is? No clue. What version of SM? We have never seen that with any of the 1.1.x releases, nor the 2.0ax releases. 1.1.14 (I never tried it before with any earlier versions.) GW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No 2nd machine Users for SM? Mac
Hartmut Figge wrote: Tom Coradeschi: At 07:23 PM -1000 02/06/2009, Geoff Welsh wrote: But SM doesn't work! It brings up a funny old style looking window with a bottom pane saying parsing error and there are no functions across the menu bar. It's totally blank. Anyone know why this is? No clue. What version of SM? We have never seen that with any of the 1.1.x releases, nor the 2.0ax releases. The description reminds me of a window like this one *g* http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/net070427.png (28 KB) Sometimes a have seen this, here is another Screenshot, an old one. Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/20060918 Mnenhy/0.7.4.10002 SeaMonkey/1.5a http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/xml20060919.png (3 KB) Hartmut It looks like this: http://home.roadrunner.com/~gwelsh/Picture1.png I have no idea how long that red text goes for, as it's obviously cut-off the screen. Notice the blank menu bar (with the exception of the word SeaMonkey) GW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No 2nd machine Users for SM? Mac
At 07:23 PM -1000 02/06/2009, Geoff Welsh wrote: on both my Macs (G4, and G5 PPC OSX 10.4)... When you create a second (machine) User account, the new user can launch any App loaded on the machine and it starts up in a virgin state, and they can customize it as they please. This works for FF, Camino, iTunes, Safari... But SM doesn't work! It brings up a funny old style looking window with a bottom pane saying parsing error and there are no functions across the menu bar. It's totally blank. Anyone know why this is? No clue. What version of SM? We have never seen that with any of the 1.1.x releases, nor the 2.0ax releases. -- tom coradeschi tc...@skylands.ibmwr.org ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No 2nd machine Users for SM? Mac
Tom Coradeschi: At 07:23 PM -1000 02/06/2009, Geoff Welsh wrote: But SM doesn't work! It brings up a funny old style looking window with a bottom pane saying parsing error and there are no functions across the menu bar. It's totally blank. Anyone know why this is? No clue. What version of SM? We have never seen that with any of the 1.1.x releases, nor the 2.0ax releases. The description reminds me of a window like this one *g* http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/net070427.png (28 KB) Sometimes a have seen this, here is another Screenshot, an old one. Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/20060918 Mnenhy/0.7.4.10002 SeaMonkey/1.5a http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/xml20060919.png (3 KB) Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No 2nd machine Users for SM? Mac
On 07/02/09 06:23, Geoff Welsh wrote: on both my Macs (G4, and G5 PPC OSX 10.4)... When you create a second (machine) User account, the new user can launch any App loaded on the machine and it starts up in a virgin state, and they can customize it as they please. This works for FF, Camino, iTunes, Safari... But SM doesn't work! It brings up a funny old style looking window with a bottom pane saying parsing error and there are no functions across the menu bar. It's totally blank. Anyone know why this is? GW - Which version are you using? - You might be interested in the knowledge base article http://kb.mozillazine.org/Gray_bar_below_status_bar HTH, Tony. -- First, a few words about tools. Basically, a tool is an object that enables you to take advantage of the laws of physics and mechanics in such a way that you can seriously injure yourself. Today, people tend to take tools for granted. If you're ever walking down the street and you notice some people who look particularly smug, the odds are that they are taking tools for granted. If I were you, I'd walk right up and smack them in the face. -- Dave Barry, The Taming of the Screw ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
