Re: Seamonkey 2.46 browser history manual deletion expression

2017-01-06 Thread User

J. Weaver Jr. wrote on 2017.01.06 6:55:

Using 2.47 (build 20161222015808), the "Components.classes" script listed
below does _nothing_ when run in the error console.  -JW


I was really waiting for someone to say something like that. I noticed that the
original expression did not result in any action in the error console and really
needed someone to point out that some elements in that expression is no longer
valid as of SM 2.46. If we could rework that expression to something that
evaluates to an action for SM 2.46 onwards, that would be useful, even though
the use of the error console to clear browser history by number of days is a bit
beyond the average end user's interest / capability to handle.
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Re: Seamonkey 2.46 browser history manual deletion expression

2017-01-06 Thread David E. Ross
On 1/6/2017 7:47 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> For what's it worth: removeVisitsByTimeframe war removed in:
> 
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1261313
> 
> But if the information is correct this would be for SeaMonkey 2.48.
> 
> FRG

Even before it was implemented, many end-users expressed negative
opinions about removing the capability to expire browser history in
terms of the age of the history entry.  Many of those comments appeared
in the Mozilla Wiki that proposed and explained the change, but all
those comments were deleted (by the author of the Wiki who was the
developer of the change?).

Over 5,000 users downloaded the "Expire history by days" extension,
which will likely be broken by bug #1261313.  This creates an urgency to
implement bug #1246424.  See
.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.46 browser history manual deletion expression

2017-01-06 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

For what's it worth: removeVisitsByTimeframe war removed in:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1261313

But if the information is correct this would be for SeaMonkey 2.48.

FRG

J. Weaver Jr. wrote:
Using 2.47 (build 20161222015808), the "Components.classes" script listed 
below does _nothing_ when run in the error console.  -JW


User wrote:

Ant wrote on 2017.01.04 18:46:

On 1/4/2017 5:24 PM, User wrote:

Ant wrote on 2017.01.04 4:43:

On 1/3/2017 9:36 PM, David E. Ross wrote: ...

Try one of the other work-arounds in bug #660646.  One suggests a
PrefBar
button; if you have the PrefBar extension installed, the Expire
History
button can be added from
.  Although I
created that button, I now use the "Expire history by days" extension
from
.

I
know it works with SeaMonke 2.46; I do not know if the PrefBar button
still
works with 2.46.

...

I second this PrefBar suggestion since I still use its purge my SM's
history
daily to keep only the last 29 days. Its JS button says:

"//  This script was suggested by "al_9x" in a comment in bug #660646
Components.classes['@mozilla.org/browser/nav-history-service;1'].getService(Components.interfaces.nsIBrowserHistory).removeVisitsByTimeframe(0, 






 (new Date().setHours(0, 0, 0, 0) - (parseInt(prompt('Days of
history to
keep', 29)) - 1) * 24 * 60 * 60 * 1000) * 1000 - 1)"


I did read about the PrefBar extension. However, I thought I had
recalled
reading in that Buzilla thread that the PrefBar was using exactly the
same
expression internally do purge browser history. If that is the case,
that would
mean that PrefBar would no longer work with SM 2.46, since that is my
problem in
the first place, that the expression no longer works in the error
console
evaluation. Are you currently using PrefBar in SM 2.46? I have no
verification
from anyone that PrefBar, which uses the exact same expression, is
currently
working in SM 2.46.


It seems to work for my SM since I quick check my histories often.
When I purge
the histories, I can feel the small short pauses too.


I reviewed the entire thread and I have no confirmation of what SM
version you are using PrefBar with for deleting your browser history.
Are you on SM 2.46 or another version? The other user in this thread is
on SM 2.46 but appears not to be using his installed PrefBar for browser
history deletion so I still have no confirmation on whether PrefBar
works in SM 2.46. If it does, then that doesn't make sense because
PrefBar essentially integrated the original expression lifted from that
Bugzilla thread and since that expression no longer works in the SM 2.46
error console, I don't see how the PrefBar using the exact same
expression in SM 2.46 would be functional.

Usually I would go into SQLite Manager extension installed in SM, run
the PLACES.SQLITE compacting, then run the expression in the SM error
console, and run the SQLite Manager compacting one more time and would
notice a major reduction in the PLACES.SQLITE file size, which then
confirms that the expression did its job.




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Re: Seamonkey 2.46 browser history manual deletion expression

2017-01-06 Thread J. Weaver Jr.
Using 2.47 (build 20161222015808), the "Components.classes" script 
listed below does _nothing_ when run in the error console.  -JW


User wrote:

Ant wrote on 2017.01.04 18:46:

On 1/4/2017 5:24 PM, User wrote:

Ant wrote on 2017.01.04 4:43:

On 1/3/2017 9:36 PM, David E. Ross wrote: ...

Try one of the other work-arounds in bug #660646.  One suggests a
PrefBar
button; if you have the PrefBar extension installed, the Expire
History
button can be added from
.  Although I
created that button, I now use the "Expire history by days" extension
from
.

I
know it works with SeaMonke 2.46; I do not know if the PrefBar button
still
works with 2.46.

...

I second this PrefBar suggestion since I still use its purge my SM's
history
daily to keep only the last 29 days. Its JS button says:

"//  This script was suggested by "al_9x" in a comment in bug #660646
Components.classes['@mozilla.org/browser/nav-history-service;1'].getService(Components.interfaces.nsIBrowserHistory).removeVisitsByTimeframe(0,




 (new Date().setHours(0, 0, 0, 0) - (parseInt(prompt('Days of
history to
keep', 29)) - 1) * 24 * 60 * 60 * 1000) * 1000 - 1)"


I did read about the PrefBar extension. However, I thought I had
recalled
reading in that Buzilla thread that the PrefBar was using exactly the
same
expression internally do purge browser history. If that is the case,
that would
mean that PrefBar would no longer work with SM 2.46, since that is my
problem in
the first place, that the expression no longer works in the error
console
evaluation. Are you currently using PrefBar in SM 2.46? I have no
verification
from anyone that PrefBar, which uses the exact same expression, is
currently
working in SM 2.46.


It seems to work for my SM since I quick check my histories often.
When I purge
the histories, I can feel the small short pauses too.


I reviewed the entire thread and I have no confirmation of what SM
version you are using PrefBar with for deleting your browser history.
Are you on SM 2.46 or another version? The other user in this thread is
on SM 2.46 but appears not to be using his installed PrefBar for browser
history deletion so I still have no confirmation on whether PrefBar
works in SM 2.46. If it does, then that doesn't make sense because
PrefBar essentially integrated the original expression lifted from that
Bugzilla thread and since that expression no longer works in the SM 2.46
error console, I don't see how the PrefBar using the exact same
expression in SM 2.46 would be functional.

Usually I would go into SQLite Manager extension installed in SM, run
the PLACES.SQLITE compacting, then run the expression in the SM error
console, and run the SQLite Manager compacting one more time and would
notice a major reduction in the PLACES.SQLITE file size, which then
confirms that the expression did its job.


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Re: Seamonkey 2.46 browser history manual deletion expression

2017-01-06 Thread User

Ant wrote on 2017.01.04 18:46:

On 1/4/2017 5:24 PM, User wrote:

Ant wrote on 2017.01.04 4:43:

On 1/3/2017 9:36 PM, David E. Ross wrote: ...

Try one of the other work-arounds in bug #660646.  One suggests a
PrefBar
button; if you have the PrefBar extension installed, the Expire History
button can be added from
.  Although I
created that button, I now use the "Expire history by days" extension
from
.
I
know it works with SeaMonke 2.46; I do not know if the PrefBar button
still
works with 2.46.

...

I second this PrefBar suggestion since I still use its purge my SM's
history
daily to keep only the last 29 days. Its JS button says:

"//  This script was suggested by "al_9x" in a comment in bug #660646
Components.classes['@mozilla.org/browser/nav-history-service;1'].getService(Components.interfaces.nsIBrowserHistory).removeVisitsByTimeframe(0,



 (new Date().setHours(0, 0, 0, 0) - (parseInt(prompt('Days of history to
keep', 29)) - 1) * 24 * 60 * 60 * 1000) * 1000 - 1)"


I did read about the PrefBar extension. However, I thought I had recalled
reading in that Buzilla thread that the PrefBar was using exactly the same
expression internally do purge browser history. If that is the case,
that would
mean that PrefBar would no longer work with SM 2.46, since that is my
problem in
the first place, that the expression no longer works in the error console
evaluation. Are you currently using PrefBar in SM 2.46? I have no
verification
from anyone that PrefBar, which uses the exact same expression, is
currently
working in SM 2.46.


It seems to work for my SM since I quick check my histories often. When I purge
the histories, I can feel the small short pauses too.


I reviewed the entire thread and I have no confirmation of what SM version you 
are using PrefBar with for deleting your browser history. Are you on SM 2.46 or 
another version? The other user in this thread is on SM 2.46 but appears not to 
be using his installed PrefBar for browser history deletion so I still have no 
confirmation on whether PrefBar works in SM 2.46. If it does, then that doesn't 
make sense because PrefBar essentially integrated the original expression lifted 
from that Bugzilla thread and since that expression no longer works in the SM 
2.46 error console, I don't see how the PrefBar using the exact same expression 
in SM 2.46 would be functional.


Usually I would go into SQLite Manager extension installed in SM, run the 
PLACES.SQLITE compacting, then run the expression in the SM error console, and 
run the SQLite Manager compacting one more time and would notice a major 
reduction in the PLACES.SQLITE file size, which then confirms that the 
expression did its job.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.46 browser history manual deletion expression

2017-01-04 Thread David E. Ross
On 1/4/2017 5:24 PM, User wrote:
> Ant wrote on 2017.01.04 4:43:
>> On 1/3/2017 9:36 PM, David E. Ross wrote: ...
>>> Try one of the other work-arounds in bug #660646.  One suggests a PrefBar
>>> button; if you have the PrefBar extension installed, the Expire History
>>> button can be added from
>>> .  Although I
>>> created that button, I now use the "Expire history by days" extension from
>>> . I
>>> know it works with SeaMonke 2.46; I do not know if the PrefBar button still
>>> works with 2.46.
>> ...
>>
>> I second this PrefBar suggestion since I still use its purge my SM's history
>> daily to keep only the last 29 days. Its JS button says:
>>
>> "//  This script was suggested by "al_9x" in a comment in bug #660646
>> Components.classes['@mozilla.org/browser/nav-history-service;1'].getService(Components.interfaces.nsIBrowserHistory).removeVisitsByTimeframe(0,
>>
>>  (new Date().setHours(0, 0, 0, 0) - (parseInt(prompt('Days of history to
>> keep', 29)) - 1) * 24 * 60 * 60 * 1000) * 1000 - 1)"
> 
> I did read about the PrefBar extension. However, I thought I had recalled
> reading in that Buzilla thread that the PrefBar was using exactly the same
> expression internally do purge browser history. If that is the case, that 
> would
> mean that PrefBar would no longer work with SM 2.46, since that is my problem 
> in
> the first place, that the expression no longer works in the error console
> evaluation. Are you currently using PrefBar in SM 2.46? I have no verification
> from anyone that PrefBar, which uses the exact same expression, is currently
> working in SM 2.46.
> 

I am using PrefBar 7.1.0 with SeaMonkey 2.46.  HOWEVER, that is for
other PrefBar capabilities.

As I indicated earlier, I switched to using the "Expire history by days"
extension.  It is version 1.2.0 converted at
 for compatibility with
SeaMonkey.  The extension's current version 1.2.1 cannot be converted
successfully.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.46 browser history manual deletion expression

2017-01-04 Thread Ant

On 1/4/2017 5:24 PM, User wrote:

Ant wrote on 2017.01.04 4:43:

On 1/3/2017 9:36 PM, David E. Ross wrote: ...

Try one of the other work-arounds in bug #660646.  One suggests a
PrefBar
button; if you have the PrefBar extension installed, the Expire History
button can be added from
.  Although I
created that button, I now use the "Expire history by days" extension
from
.
I
know it works with SeaMonke 2.46; I do not know if the PrefBar button
still
works with 2.46.

...

I second this PrefBar suggestion since I still use its purge my SM's
history
daily to keep only the last 29 days. Its JS button says:

"//  This script was suggested by "al_9x" in a comment in bug #660646
Components.classes['@mozilla.org/browser/nav-history-service;1'].getService(Components.interfaces.nsIBrowserHistory).removeVisitsByTimeframe(0,


 (new Date().setHours(0, 0, 0, 0) - (parseInt(prompt('Days of history to
keep', 29)) - 1) * 24 * 60 * 60 * 1000) * 1000 - 1)"


I did read about the PrefBar extension. However, I thought I had recalled
reading in that Buzilla thread that the PrefBar was using exactly the same
expression internally do purge browser history. If that is the case,
that would
mean that PrefBar would no longer work with SM 2.46, since that is my
problem in
the first place, that the expression no longer works in the error console
evaluation. Are you currently using PrefBar in SM 2.46? I have no
verification
from anyone that PrefBar, which uses the exact same expression, is
currently
working in SM 2.46.


It seems to work for my SM since I quick check my histories often. When 
I purge the histories, I can feel the small short pauses too.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.46 browser history manual deletion expression

2017-01-04 Thread User

Ant wrote on 2017.01.04 4:43:

On 1/3/2017 9:36 PM, David E. Ross wrote: ...

Try one of the other work-arounds in bug #660646.  One suggests a PrefBar
button; if you have the PrefBar extension installed, the Expire History
button can be added from
.  Although I
created that button, I now use the "Expire history by days" extension from
. I
know it works with SeaMonke 2.46; I do not know if the PrefBar button still
works with 2.46.

...

I second this PrefBar suggestion since I still use its purge my SM's history
daily to keep only the last 29 days. Its JS button says:

"//  This script was suggested by "al_9x" in a comment in bug #660646
Components.classes['@mozilla.org/browser/nav-history-service;1'].getService(Components.interfaces.nsIBrowserHistory).removeVisitsByTimeframe(0,

 (new Date().setHours(0, 0, 0, 0) - (parseInt(prompt('Days of history to
keep', 29)) - 1) * 24 * 60 * 60 * 1000) * 1000 - 1)"


I did read about the PrefBar extension. However, I thought I had recalled
reading in that Buzilla thread that the PrefBar was using exactly the same
expression internally do purge browser history. If that is the case, that would
mean that PrefBar would no longer work with SM 2.46, since that is my problem in
the first place, that the expression no longer works in the error console
evaluation. Are you currently using PrefBar in SM 2.46? I have no verification
from anyone that PrefBar, which uses the exact same expression, is currently
working in SM 2.46.
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Re: Seamonkey 2.46 browser history manual deletion expression

2017-01-04 Thread David E. Ross
On 1/4/2017 4:43 AM, Ant wrote:
> On 1/3/2017 9:36 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
> ...
>> Try one of the other work-arounds in bug #660646.  One suggests a
>> PrefBar button; if you have the PrefBar extension installed, the Expire
>> History button can be added from
>> .  Although I
>> created that button, I now use the "Expire history by days" extension
>> from
>> .
>>  I know it works with SeaMonke 2.46; I do not know if the PrefBar button
>> still works with 2.46.
> ...
> 
> I second this PrefBar suggestion since I still use its purge my SM's 
> history daily to keep only the last 29 days. 

[snipped]

I use the "Expire history by days" extension because it works
automatically and does not require my manual selection of a PrefBar
button.  "Expire history by days" has an option -- reached through its
entry in the Ad-ons Manager -- to set the number of days of history
retention.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.46 browser history manual deletion expression

2017-01-04 Thread Ant

On 1/3/2017 9:36 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
...

Try one of the other work-arounds in bug #660646.  One suggests a
PrefBar button; if you have the PrefBar extension installed, the Expire
History button can be added from
.  Although I
created that button, I now use the "Expire history by days" extension
from
.
 I know it works with SeaMonke 2.46; I do not know if the PrefBar button
still works with 2.46.

...

I second this PrefBar suggestion since I still use its purge my SM's 
history daily to keep only the last 29 days. Its JS button says:


"//  This script was suggested by "al_9x" in a comment in bug #660646
Components.classes['@mozilla.org/browser/nav-history-service;1'].getService(Components.interfaces.nsIBrowserHistory).removeVisitsByTimeframe(0, 


 (new Date().setHours(0, 0, 0, 0)
  - (parseInt(prompt('Days of history to keep', 29)) - 1)
  * 24 * 60 * 60 * 1000) * 1000 - 1)"
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Re: Seamonkey 2.46 browser history manual deletion expression

2017-01-03 Thread David E. Ross
On 1/3/2017 5:32 PM, User wrote:
> Prior to upgrading to SM 2.46, I have used the following manual workaround 
> shown
> on comment 7 at this Bugzilla bug record below to delete browser history but
> preserve the most recent 30 days:
> 
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660646#c7
> 
> Using this expression:
> 
> Components.classes['@mozilla.org/browser/nav-history-service;1'].getService(Components.interfaces.nsIBrowserHistory).removeVisitsByTimeframe(0,
> (new Date().setHours(0, 0, 0, 0) - (parseInt(prompt('Days of history to keep',
> 30)) - 1) * 24 * 60 * 60 * 1000) * 1000 - 1)
> 
> I just recently upgraded to SM 2.46 and found that using the expression I
> mentioned above used in the SM error console's evaluation field to delete
> browser history except the last 30 days, no longer works. The NUMBER OF DAYS
> prompt that is supposed to appear with this expression no longer appears when
> the expression is evaluated in the error console. I'm not sure if this problem
> now have anything to do with the mentioned changes regarding the Javascript
> debugger interface at this URL:
> 
> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.46/
> 
> and if so, what if any, is the workaround solution to execute the same
> expression elsewhere in SM 2.46? This method has worked well for me up until 
> now
> and I'm guessing that the expression above just needs some update as some of 
> the
> elements the expression is referring to may now be invalid in SM 2.46. Thanks
> for any advise from advance users / coders.
> 

Try one of the other work-arounds in bug #660646.  One suggests a
PrefBar button; if you have the PrefBar extension installed, the Expire
History button can be added from
.  Although I
created that button, I now use the "Expire history by days" extension
from
.
 I know it works with SeaMonke 2.46; I do not know if the PrefBar button
still works with 2.46.

"Expire history by days" 1.2.1 cannot be used by SeaMonkey.  It is
necessary to get the older version 1.2.0 after it has been converted via
.  If you send me an E-mail
message, I will reply with a copy of the converted 1.2.0 .xpi file.  My
real E-mail address is in the Organization header field of this
newsgroup reply; look at the message source to find the Organization
header field.

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Re: Seamonkey To Browser

2016-08-23 Thread David E. Ross
On 8/18/2016 3:13 AM, Ralph Fox wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 19:50:06 +1000, Daniel wrote:
> 
>> On 18/08/2016 10:07 AM, James wrote:
>>> How do I make Seamonkey open say Firefox when I click on a URL ?
>>> I do not like Seamonkey as a browser.
>>> Firefox is my default but Seamonkey ignores that.
>>
>> James, as SeaMonkey includes a browser, it naturally uses that browser.
>>
>> However, it used to be possible to do as you wanted, i.e. when you 
>> clicked on a link in an e-mail, the web page would open in another 
>> browser. There used to be a preference in about:config which you would 
>> change and away you would go, but I've looked through about:config and 
>> also at http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config_entries to see if I could 
>> spot the pref ... but no go!!
>>
>> Sorry!
> 
> 
> If I remember correctly from long ago, setting these preferences 
>  network.protocol-handler.external.http
>  network.protocol-handler.external.https
> to true will do it -- but may also have unwelcome side effects.
> Use with caution and be prepared to back out.
> 
> REF:  
> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.protocol-handler.external.%28protocol%29
> 
> 

The original message in this thread was posted from a Windows PC.
Besides setting those preference variables in SeaMonkey, the user must
also go to the Windows Control Panel and set the default browser.  Which
Control Panel item seems to change with each Windows version, so I
cannot help beyond this.

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Re: Seamonkey To Browser

2016-08-23 Thread Ralph Fox

On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 22:13:51 +1200, Ralph Fox wrote:

On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 19:50:06 +1000, Daniel wrote:

On 18/08/2016 10:07 AM, James wrote:


How do I make Seamonkey open say Firefox when I click on a URL ?
I do not like Seamonkey as a browser.
Firefox is my default but Seamonkey ignores that.


James, as SeaMonkey includes a browser, it naturally uses that browser.

However, it used to be possible to do as you wanted, i.e. when you
clicked on a link in an e-mail, the web page would open in another
browser. There used to be a preference in about:config which you would
change and away you would go, but I've looked through about:config and
also at http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config_entries to see if I could
spot the pref ... but no go!!

Sorry!



If I remember correctly from long ago, setting these preferences
  network.protocol-handler.external.http
  network.protocol-handler.external.https
to true will do it -- but may also have unwelcome side effects.
Use with caution and be prepared to back out.

REF:  http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.protocol-handler.external.%28protocol%29



After checking further, I find that in more recent versions of SM this 
does not work  for clicking on links in the SM mail/news component. 
When the preference is set to true, clicking the link will do nothing.


It does still seem to work for links in the SM browser component. 
Setting the preference to "true" tells SM to send the link to a helper 
application instead of opening it in SM.  Of course if you are using the 
SM browser then you may not want to send http or https links to a helper 
application, but you might want to send other kinds of links.



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Re: Seamonkey To Browser

2016-08-22 Thread Ralph Fox
On Mon, 22 Aug 2016 21:49:06 +1000, Daniel wrote:
> On 21/08/2016 5:57 PM, Ralph Fox wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 Aug 2016 16:24:47 +1000, Daniel wrote:
>>> On 21/08/2016 4:03 PM, Ralph Fox wrote:
 On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 15:15:15 +1000, Daniel wrote:

> Well, one would then have to wonder why you added those prefs,
> yourself, Ralph. Did someone suggest them as a solution for a problem
> you were having??

 I originally read about these prefs, in connection with Mozilla Suite,
 in the netscape.public.mozilla.* groups.  I never really needed these
 prefs myself -- I was not the one having the problem.  But I did test
 them at that time, out of interest.  That would now be over 10 years
 ago.
>>>
>>> *Well over* 10 years ago!! :-) Knocking on the door of 15 years, I
>>> think!!
>>
>> The oldest example I could find today was 13 years ago (2003), in a
>> Google Groups search.  :-D
>>
> O.K., I'll split the difference with you, Ralph!! ;-P (Earliest I could 
> find was http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/1.0a 15 Sept, 2005)


For the pref that answers the OP's question, i.e. 
Q.  "How do I make SeaMonkey open say Firefox when I click on a URL" ...
A.  network.protocol-handler.external.http   Boolean   true

 (a)  The oldest I found for SeaMonkey specifically is 2009
  https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mozilla.support.seamonkey/mCM5fBH1XNg/

 (b)  The oldest I found for Mozilla Suite (the predecessor to SeaMonkey) is 
2003
  
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/netscape.public.mozilla.general/PHZ4CMZvmro/



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Re: Seamonkey To Browser

2016-08-22 Thread Mike C

James wrote:

How do I make Seamonkey open say Firefox when I click on a URL ?
I do not like Seamonkey as a browser.
Firefox is my default but Seamonkey ignores that.


 If you make Firefox your default it will open all links in Firefox

EXCEPT links you open from SM email.

I believe that's the way it has to be with SM.
Although Maybe Thunderbird email would do what you want.
(Thunderbird is similar to SM mail but hooked to Firefox.)
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Re: Seamonkey To Browser

2016-08-22 Thread Daniel

On 21/08/2016 5:57 PM, Ralph Fox wrote:

On Sun, 21 Aug 2016 16:24:47 +1000, Daniel wrote:

On 21/08/2016 4:03 PM, Ralph Fox wrote:

On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 15:15:15 +1000, Daniel wrote:


Well, one would then have to wonder why you added those prefs,
yourself, Ralph. Did someone suggest them as a solution for a problem
you were having??


I originally read about these prefs, in connection with Mozilla Suite,
in the netscape.public.mozilla.* groups.  I never really needed these
prefs myself -- I was not the one having the problem.  But I did test
them at that time, out of interest.  That would now be over 10 years
ago.


*Well over* 10 years ago!! :-) Knocking on the door of 15 years, I
think!!


The oldest example I could find today was 13 years ago (2003), in a
Google Groups search.  :-D

O.K., I'll split the difference with you, Ralph!! ;-P (Earliest I could 
find was http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/1.0a 15 Sept, 2005)


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Re: Seamonkey To Browser

2016-08-21 Thread Ralph Fox

On Sun, 21 Aug 2016 16:24:47 +1000, Daniel wrote:

On 21/08/2016 4:03 PM, Ralph Fox wrote:

On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 15:15:15 +1000, Daniel wrote:


Well, one would then have to wonder why you added those prefs,
yourself, Ralph. Did someone suggest them as a solution for a problem
you were having??


I originally read about these prefs, in connection with Mozilla Suite,
in the netscape.public.mozilla.* groups.  I never really needed these
prefs myself -- I was not the one having the problem.  But I did test
them at that time, out of interest.  That would now be over 10 years ago.


*Well over* 10 years ago!! :-) Knocking on the door of 15 years, I think!!



The oldest example I could find today was 13 years ago (2003), in a 
Google Groups search.  :-D


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Re: Seamonkey To Browser

2016-08-21 Thread Daniel

On 21/08/2016 4:03 PM, Ralph Fox wrote:

On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 15:15:15 +1000, Daniel wrote:


Well, one would then have to wonder why you added those prefs,
yourself, Ralph. Did someone suggest them as a solution for a problem
you were having??


I originally read about these prefs, in connection with Mozilla Suite,
in the netscape.public.mozilla.* groups.  I never really needed these
prefs myself -- I was not the one having the problem.  But I did test
them at that time, out of interest.  That would now be over 10 years ago.


*Well over* 10 years ago!! :-) Knocking on the door of 15 years, I think!!

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Re: Seamonkey To Browser

2016-08-21 Thread Ralph Fox

On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 15:15:15 +1000, Daniel wrote:

Well, one would then have to wonder why you added those prefs, yourself, 
Ralph. Did someone suggest them as a solution for a problem you were 
having??


I originally read about these prefs, in connection with Mozilla Suite, 
in the netscape.public.mozilla.* groups.  I never really needed these 
prefs myself -- I was not the one having the problem.  But I did test 
them at that time, out of interest.  That would now be over 10 years ago.



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Re: Seamonkey To Browser

2016-08-19 Thread Daniel

On 20/08/2016 8:34 AM, Ralph Fox wrote:

On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 01:48:51 +1000, Daniel wrote:

On 18/08/2016 8:13 PM, Ralph Fox wrote:

On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 19:50:06 +1000, Daniel wrote:

On 18/08/2016 10:07 AM, James wrote:


How do I make Seamonkey open say Firefox when I click on a URL ?
I do not like Seamonkey as a browser.
Firefox is my default but Seamonkey ignores that.


James, as SeaMonkey includes a browser, it naturally uses that browser.

However, it used to be possible to do as you wanted, i.e. when you
clicked on a link in an e-mail, the web page would open in another
browser. There used to be a preference in about:config which you would
change and away you would go, but I've looked through about:config and
also at http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config_entries to see if I could
spot the pref ... but no go!!

Sorry!



If I remember correctly from long ago, setting these preferences
   network.protocol-handler.external.http
   network.protocol-handler.external.https
to true will do it -- but may also have unwelcome side effects.
Use with caution and be prepared to back out.

REF:  http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.protocol-handler.external.%28protocol%29


Hmm!! I don't have those prefs in my prefs.js and they're not listed in
the about:config mozillazine page I ref'd above, however I do have
several network.protocol-handler.external prefs set.


I should have added that you will probably need to add those yourself.
On the about:config page,  right-click >> New >> Boolean



Could they possible have been added by one of your added extensions, Ralph??


No, they were not added by one of my extensions.


Well, one would then have to wonder why you added those prefs, yourself, 
Ralph. Did someone suggest them as a solution for a problem you were 
having??


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Re: Seamonkey To Browser

2016-08-19 Thread Ralph Fox
On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 01:48:51 +1000, Daniel wrote:
> On 18/08/2016 8:13 PM, Ralph Fox wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 19:50:06 +1000, Daniel wrote:
>>> On 18/08/2016 10:07 AM, James wrote:
>>>
 How do I make Seamonkey open say Firefox when I click on a URL ?
 I do not like Seamonkey as a browser.
 Firefox is my default but Seamonkey ignores that.
>>>
>>> James, as SeaMonkey includes a browser, it naturally uses that browser.
>>>
>>> However, it used to be possible to do as you wanted, i.e. when you
>>> clicked on a link in an e-mail, the web page would open in another
>>> browser. There used to be a preference in about:config which you would
>>> change and away you would go, but I've looked through about:config and
>>> also at http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config_entries to see if I could
>>> spot the pref ... but no go!!
>>>
>>> Sorry!
>>
>>
>> If I remember correctly from long ago, setting these preferences
>>   network.protocol-handler.external.http
>>   network.protocol-handler.external.https
>> to true will do it -- but may also have unwelcome side effects.
>> Use with caution and be prepared to back out.
>>
>> REF:  
>> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.protocol-handler.external.%28protocol%29
> 
> Hmm!! I don't have those prefs in my prefs.js and they're not listed in 
> the about:config mozillazine page I ref'd above, however I do have 
> several network.protocol-handler.external prefs set.

I should have added that you will probably need to add those yourself.
On the about:config page,  right-click >> New >> Boolean


> Could they possible have been added by one of your added extensions, Ralph??

No, they were not added by one of my extensions.


But speaking of extensions, another answer for the OP was said 
to be the "Launchy" extension.  I have not used Launchy myself, 
but I understand it let you right-click on the URL and choose 
whether to open it in Firefox.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/seamonkey/addon/launchy/

Unfortunately Launchy only seems to be available for SM up to 
version 2.17a1.


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Re: Seamonkey To Browser

2016-08-19 Thread EE

Daniel wrote:

On 18/08/2016 8:13 PM, Ralph Fox wrote:

On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 19:50:06 +1000, Daniel wrote:


On 18/08/2016 10:07 AM, James wrote:

How do I make Seamonkey open say Firefox when I click on a URL ?
I do not like Seamonkey as a browser.
Firefox is my default but Seamonkey ignores that.


James, as SeaMonkey includes a browser, it naturally uses that browser.

However, it used to be possible to do as you wanted, i.e. when you
clicked on a link in an e-mail, the web page would open in another
browser. There used to be a preference in about:config which you would
change and away you would go, but I've looked through about:config and
also at http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config_entries to see if I could
spot the pref ... but no go!!

Sorry!



If I remember correctly from long ago, setting these preferences
  network.protocol-handler.external.http
  network.protocol-handler.external.https
to true will do it -- but may also have unwelcome side effects.
Use with caution and be prepared to back out.

REF:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.protocol-handler.external.%28protocol%29



Hmm!! I don't have those prefs in my prefs.js and they're not listed in
the about:config mozillazine page I ref'd above, however I do have
several network.protocol-handler.external prefs set.

Could they possible have been added by one of your added extensions,
Ralph??

You could try adding those settings to about:config and see if they make 
any difference.  If not, you can simply reset them and they will disappear.


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Re: Seamonkey To Browser

2016-08-19 Thread Daniel

On 18/08/2016 8:13 PM, Ralph Fox wrote:

On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 19:50:06 +1000, Daniel wrote:


On 18/08/2016 10:07 AM, James wrote:

How do I make Seamonkey open say Firefox when I click on a URL ?
I do not like Seamonkey as a browser.
Firefox is my default but Seamonkey ignores that.


James, as SeaMonkey includes a browser, it naturally uses that browser.

However, it used to be possible to do as you wanted, i.e. when you
clicked on a link in an e-mail, the web page would open in another
browser. There used to be a preference in about:config which you would
change and away you would go, but I've looked through about:config and
also at http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config_entries to see if I could
spot the pref ... but no go!!

Sorry!



If I remember correctly from long ago, setting these preferences
  network.protocol-handler.external.http
  network.protocol-handler.external.https
to true will do it -- but may also have unwelcome side effects.
Use with caution and be prepared to back out.

REF:  http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.protocol-handler.external.%28protocol%29


Hmm!! I don't have those prefs in my prefs.js and they're not listed in 
the about:config mozillazine page I ref'd above, however I do have 
several network.protocol-handler.external prefs set.


Could they possible have been added by one of your added extensions, Ralph??

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Re: Seamonkey To Browser

2016-08-18 Thread Ralph Fox
On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 19:50:06 +1000, Daniel wrote:

> On 18/08/2016 10:07 AM, James wrote:
> > How do I make Seamonkey open say Firefox when I click on a URL ?
> > I do not like Seamonkey as a browser.
> > Firefox is my default but Seamonkey ignores that.
> 
> James, as SeaMonkey includes a browser, it naturally uses that browser.
> 
> However, it used to be possible to do as you wanted, i.e. when you 
> clicked on a link in an e-mail, the web page would open in another 
> browser. There used to be a preference in about:config which you would 
> change and away you would go, but I've looked through about:config and 
> also at http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config_entries to see if I could 
> spot the pref ... but no go!!
> 
> Sorry!


If I remember correctly from long ago, setting these preferences 
 network.protocol-handler.external.http
 network.protocol-handler.external.https
to true will do it -- but may also have unwelcome side effects.
Use with caution and be prepared to back out.

REF:  http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.protocol-handler.external.%28protocol%29


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Re: Seamonkey To Browser

2016-08-18 Thread Daniel

On 18/08/2016 10:07 AM, James wrote:

How do I make Seamonkey open say Firefox when I click on a URL ?
I do not like Seamonkey as a browser.
Firefox is my default but Seamonkey ignores that.


James, as SeaMonkey includes a browser, it naturally uses that browser.

However, it used to be possible to do as you wanted, i.e. when you 
clicked on a link in an e-mail, the web page would open in another 
browser. There used to be a preference in about:config which you would 
change and away you would go, but I've looked through about:config and 
also at http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config_entries to see if I could 
spot the pref ... but no go!!


Sorry!

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Re: Seamonkey To Browser

2016-08-17 Thread David E. Ross
On 8/17/2016 5:07 PM, James wrote:
> How do I make Seamonkey open say Firefox when I click on a URL ?
> I do not like Seamonkey as a browser.
> Firefox is my default but Seamonkey ignores that.
> 

For what do you use SeaMonkey?  If it is for E-mail, RSS feeds, and
newsgroups, try using Thunderbird instead.  Then you can easily solve
your problem by uninstalling SeaMonkey.

On the other hand, I much prefer SeaMonkey as a browser over Firefox.
Its user interface has not been dumbed-down or made to look like Chrome.

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Re: Seamonkey To Browser

2016-08-17 Thread NoOp
On 8/17/2016 5:07 PM, James wrote:
> How do I make Seamonkey open say Firefox when I click on a URL ?
> I do not like Seamonkey as a browser.
> Firefox is my default but Seamonkey ignores that.
> 

Maybe:

h
will work for you. (disclaimer - I've not tried it myself)

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Re: Seamonkey 2.2 browser : GInormous list of right-click options

2011-07-27 Thread j...@command-post.com
On Jul 26, 6:08 am, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote:
 Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) schrieb:

  Just right-clicked on a message title in a forum,
  and the attached list of options appeared. 95%
  seem completely irrelevant. Any idea why they have
  appeared ?

 There is a know bug that sometimes happens. This problem has always
 cleared up for me after a restart of SeaMonkey. The team is working on a
 fix for the next version.

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is no longer, um, available. Suddenly the right click option has
turned into a jungle! Please fix this, and fast!

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Re: Seamonkey 2.2 browser : GInormous list of right-click options

2011-07-26 Thread Robert Kaiser

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) schrieb:

Just right-clicked on a message title in a forum,
and the attached list of options appeared. 95%
seem completely irrelevant. Any idea why they have
appeared ?


There is a know bug that sometimes happens. This problem has always 
cleared up for me after a restart of SeaMonkey. The team is working on a 
fix for the next version.


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Re: Seamonkey 2.2 browser : GINORMOUS list of right-click options

2011-07-24 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov

Sun, 24 Jul 2011 16:04:26 +0100, /Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)/:


Just right-clicked on a message title in a forum,
and this list of options appeared :

http://web-consultants.org.uk/screen-captures/Fullscreen%20capture%2024-Jul-2011%20153843.jpg

95% seem completely irrelevant. Any idea why they have
appeared ?


Already asked and answered yesterday - see the Robert Kaiser and 
Philip Chee's replies to the I want my old Seamonkey back thread. 
 Bascially just restart SeaMonkey to workaround the problem.


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Re: Seamonkey 2.2 browser : GINORMOUS list of right-click options

2011-07-24 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)


Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
 Sun, 24 Jul 2011 16:04:26 +0100, /Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)/:

 Just right-clicked on a message title in a forum,
 and this list of options appeared :

 
http://web-consultants.org.uk/screen-captures/Fullscreen%20capture%2024-Jul-2011%20153843.jpg

 95% seem completely irrelevant. Any idea why they have
 appeared ?

 Already asked and answered yesterday - see the Robert Kaiser and Philip Chee's replies 
to the I want my old Seamonkey back thread. Bascially just restart SeaMonkey to 
workaround the problem.

Ah, sorry, must have missed that.  Anyhow, browser has been
closed and restarted many times since 2.2 was installed, so
that is not going to help in this case !

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Re: Seamonkey 2.2 browser : GINORMOUS list of right-click options

2011-07-24 Thread David E. Ross
On 7/24/11 8:18 AM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
 Sun, 24 Jul 2011 16:04:26 +0100, /Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)/:
 
 Just right-clicked on a message title in a forum,
 and this list of options appeared :

 http://web-consultants.org.uk/screen-captures/Fullscreen%20capture%2024-Jul-2011%20153843.jpg

 95% seem completely irrelevant. Any idea why they have
 appeared ?
 
 Already asked and answered yesterday - see the Robert Kaiser and 
 Philip Chee's replies to the I want my old Seamonkey back thread. 
   Bascially just restart SeaMonkey to workaround the problem.
 

I can't find that thread.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.2 browser : GINORMOUS list of right-click options

2011-07-24 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)



David E. Ross wrote:


On 7/24/11 8:18 AM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:



Already asked and answered yesterday - see the Robert Kaiser and
Philip Chee's replies to the I want my old Seamonkey back thread.
   Bascially just restart SeaMonkey to workaround the problem.



I can't find that thread.


Starts here (see attached).
Philip Taylor
---BeginMessage---
Please how do I get my old version of SeaMonkey back!?

I updated to v2.2 in good faith.  The new version is a nightmare.
Have you tried to right-click?  All I want to do is copy-paste and
spell check, all I get is a laundry list of useless (to me) functions.

And what is the extra addition to the tool bar with a q of pages.  I
like that it opened up a new window for each e-mail link I click.

Please I've been Mozilla since day 1.  Please can I have my old friend
back...Steve
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