Re: The new Google Earth only runs on Chrome, why?

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Re: The new Google Earth only runs on Chrome, why?

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On 9/5/18, Ant via support-seamonkey
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> On 9/2/2018 7:16 PM, boxfre...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Saturday, April 22, 2017 at 2:02:01 AM UTC-6, Dirk Munk wrote:
>>> I wanted to use Google Earth yesterday, and I was surprised with the
>>> announcement that there was a new Google Earth for use in a browser. The
>>> announcement contained a link to https://earth.google.com/web/ , but
>>> when I opened it with SeaMonkey I got this message "Aw snap! The new
>>> Google Earth isn't supported by your browser yet.", and a message to try
>>> it in Chrome.
>>>
>>> Why doesn't the new Google Earth run in SeaMonkey / Firefox etc.?
>>
>> Because Google has become just about as greedy and draconian as Apple
>> now.
>
> And many other companies like Microsoft! :(

What's the use of having the largest market-share if you don't take
advantage of it?

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Re: The new Google Earth only runs on Chrome, why?

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On 9/2/2018 7:16 PM, boxfre...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, April 22, 2017 at 2:02:01 AM UTC-6, Dirk Munk wrote:

I wanted to use Google Earth yesterday, and I was surprised with the
announcement that there was a new Google Earth for use in a browser. The
announcement contained a link to https://earth.google.com/web/ , but
when I opened it with SeaMonkey I got this message "Aw snap! The new
Google Earth isn't supported by your browser yet.", and a message to try
it in Chrome.

Why doesn't the new Google Earth run in SeaMonkey / Firefox etc.?


Because Google has become just about as greedy and draconian as Apple now.


And many other companies like Microsoft! :(
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Re: The new Google Earth only runs on Chrome, why?

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On Saturday, April 22, 2017 at 2:02:01 AM UTC-6, Dirk Munk wrote:
> I wanted to use Google Earth yesterday, and I was surprised with the 
> announcement that there was a new Google Earth for use in a browser. The 
> announcement contained a link to https://earth.google.com/web/ , but 
> when I opened it with SeaMonkey I got this message "Aw snap! The new 
> Google Earth isn't supported by your browser yet.", and a message to try 
> it in Chrome.
> 
> Why doesn't the new Google Earth run in SeaMonkey / Firefox etc.?

Because Google has become just about as greedy and draconian as Apple now. 
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Re: The new Google Earth only runs on Chrome, why?

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Ant wrote:
> On 2/22/2018 3:24 PM, csad...@google.com wrote:
>> The reason the new Google Earth is Chrome only is because it relies on 
>> running native code in the
>> browser via Native Client (NaCL), which is Chrome only. Plan is move native 
>> code execution to Web
>> Assembly (WASM) and go cross-browser once WASM's multi-threading support is 
>> rolled out by all the
>> browsers... hopefully soon.  More background and details in this post:
>> https://medium.com/google-earth/earth-on-web-the-road-to-cross-browser-7338e0f46278
> 
> When will SeaMonkey get this WASM? That's a problem since it is still uses 
> the old Gecko engine. :(
I run Google Earth Pro and it does not depend on any browser
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Re: The new Google Earth only runs on Chrome, why?

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On 2/22/2018 3:24 PM, csad...@google.com wrote:

The reason the new Google Earth is Chrome only is because it relies on running 
native code in the browser via Native Client (NaCL), which is Chrome only. Plan 
is move native code execution to Web Assembly (WASM) and go cross-browser once 
WASM's multi-threading support is rolled out by all the browsers... hopefully 
soon.  More background and details in this post:
https://medium.com/google-earth/earth-on-web-the-road-to-cross-browser-7338e0f46278


When will SeaMonkey get this WASM? That's a problem since it is still 
uses the old Gecko engine. :(

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Re: The new Google Earth only runs on Chrome, why?

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The reason the new Google Earth is Chrome only is because it relies on running 
native code in the browser via Native Client (NaCL), which is Chrome only. Plan 
is move native code execution to Web Assembly (WASM) and go cross-browser once 
WASM's multi-threading support is rolled out by all the browsers... hopefully 
soon.  More background and details in this post: 
https://medium.com/google-earth/earth-on-web-the-road-to-cross-browser-7338e0f46278


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Re: The new Google Earth only runs on Chrome, why?

[Rick Merrill]

On 4/22/2017 10:36 AM, Luis wrote:

Dirk Munk wrote:

I wanted to use Google Earth yesterday, and I was surprised with the
announcement that there was a new Google Earth for use in a browser.
The announcement contained a link to https://earth.google.com/web/ ,
but when I opened it with SeaMonkey I got this message "Aw snap! The
new Google Earth isn't supported by your browser yet.", and a message
to try it in Chrome.

Why doesn't the new Google Earth run in SeaMonkey / Firefox etc.?


There is no free lunch.


nor dinner!

My theory is that delivery of content via a web app (instead of a 
browser) gives more control, more security, and more 
customer-exclusivity. This trend started with smart phones (of course) 
and now is spreading to desktops.


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Re: The new Google Earth only runs on Chrome, why?

[Ray_Net]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 24-04-17 04:30:

NoOp wrote:


On 4/22/2017 1:05 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Dirk Munk wrote:


I wanted to use Google Earth yesterday, and I was surprised with
the announcement that there was a new Google Earth for use in a
browser. The announcement contained a link to
https://earth.google.com/web/ , but when I opened it with
SeaMonkey I got this message "Aw snap! The new Google Earth isn't
supported by your browser yet.", and a message to try it in
Chrome.

Why doesn't the new Google Earth run in SeaMonkey / Firefox
etc.?


Arrogance? Stupidity? Your guess is as good as mine.


Really?

- Perhaps because it's _their_ web application & they offer it for
free using _their_ interface (Chrome browser)?


I don't need to read anything beyond "web application" to think it 
should run on all browsers. End of story.


If they want to distribute it as software to run locally, then fine, 
they can do as they please. But web pages should be W3C compliant.



"web pages should be W3C compliant" = This is only a wishful thinking

Most webmaster don't care about W3C - and some of them did not know the 
existence of W3C.


Your battle is lost in advance. (same battle for accepting SeaMonkey 
when sniffing :-) )


BUT reading this page :

 



We can read:

Major downside, apart from the features that it does not support, is 
that it is Chrome exclusive currently. This, like many other things, 
will probably change in the future.


So, just wait for the future ...
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Re: The new Google Earth only runs on Chrome, why?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

NoOp wrote:


On 4/22/2017 1:05 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Dirk Munk wrote:


I wanted to use Google Earth yesterday, and I was surprised with
the announcement that there was a new Google Earth for use in a
browser. The announcement contained a link to
https://earth.google.com/web/ , but when I opened it with
SeaMonkey I got this message "Aw snap! The new Google Earth isn't
supported by your browser yet.", and a message to try it in
Chrome.

Why doesn't the new Google Earth run in SeaMonkey / Firefox
etc.?


Arrogance? Stupidity? Your guess is as good as mine.


Really?

- Perhaps because it's _their_ web application & they offer it for
free using _their_ interface (Chrome browser)?


I don't need to read anything beyond "web application" to think it 
should run on all browsers. End of story.


If they want to distribute it as software to run locally, then fine, 
they can do as they please. But web pages should be W3C compliant.


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Re: The new Google Earth only runs on Chrome, why?

[NoOp]

On 4/22/2017 1:05 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Dirk Munk wrote:
> 
>> I wanted to use Google Earth yesterday, and I was surprised with the
>> announcement that there was a new Google Earth for use in a browser.
>> The announcement contained a link to https://earth.google.com/web/ ,
>> but when I opened it with SeaMonkey I got this message "Aw snap! The
>> new Google Earth isn't supported by your browser yet.", and a message
>> to try it in Chrome.
>>
>> Why doesn't the new Google Earth run in SeaMonkey / Firefox etc.?
> 
> Arrogance? Stupidity? Your guess is as good as mine.
> 

Really?

- Perhaps because it's _their_ web application & they offer it for free
using _their_ interface (Chrome browser)?
- Perhaps because Mozilla didn't contribute to the GE project? (I do not
know if Mozilla contributed anything to the code but I suspect if they
had/do that there may be a Firefox plugin in the works)

I suspect that it's such a large and complex project (imagine SeaMonkey
or all of Mozilla attempting to accomplish the same) that just getting
it to run in Chrome is a major feat.

//slight rant//
Why is it that we (generic) now expect all things available on the web
to be free, and believe that we are entitled to the work of others
regardless of the application? Why not just be thankful that someone
offers something that can be used to improve your productivity,
imagination, creativity, life overall?
//end slight rant//

Note: The new web version doesn't run on Chromium or Opera either (yet)
but I suspect it will eventually/

You can still download and run the standalone GE & GE Pro version on
Windows and Linux (works for me).

https://www.google.com/earth/resources/
"Web
Why did you make the new Google Earth a web app?
Classic desktop Earth must be downloaded and installed on your Windows,
Mac or Linux computer. By making new Earth a web app (on Chrome, for
now) it can be used on most computers including Chromebooks, without a
download. Being on the web makes it easier for us to make updates and
ensure you're using the most up to date product. Plus, it makes it
easier for you to share your own experiences with Google Earth by using
a simple link."

  Note the " (on Chrome, for now)"...




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Re: The new Google Earth only runs on Chrome, why?

[NoOp]

On 4/23/2017 6:30 PM, NoOp wrote:
> On 4/22/2017 1:05 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>> Dirk Munk wrote:
>> 
>>> I wanted to use Google Earth yesterday, and I was surprised with the
>>> announcement that there was a new Google Earth for use in a browser.
>>> The announcement contained a link to https://earth.google.com/web/ ,
>>> but when I opened it with SeaMonkey I got this message "Aw snap! The
>>> new Google Earth isn't supported by your browser yet.", and a message
>>> to try it in Chrome.
>>>
>>> Why doesn't the new Google Earth run in SeaMonkey / Firefox etc.?
>> 
>> Arrogance? Stupidity? Your guess is as good as mine.
>> 
> 
> Really?
> 
> - Perhaps because it's _their_ web application & they offer it for free
> using _their_ interface (Chrome browser)?
> - Perhaps because Mozilla didn't contribute to the GE project? (I do not
> know if Mozilla contributed anything to the code but I suspect if they
> had/do that there may be a Firefox plugin in the works)
> 
> I suspect that it's such a large and complex project (imagine SeaMonkey
> or all of Mozilla attempting to accomplish the same) that just getting
> it to run in Chrome is a major feat.
> 
> //slight rant//
> Why is it that we (generic) now expect all things available on the web
> to be free, and believe that we are entitled to the work of others
> regardless of the application? Why not just be thankful that someone
> offers something that can be used to improve your productivity,
> imagination, creativity, life overall?
> //end slight rant//
> 
> Note: The new web version doesn't run on Chromium or Opera either (yet)
> but I suspect it will eventually/
> 
> You can still download and run the standalone GE & GE Pro version on
> Windows and Linux (works for me).
> 
> https://www.google.com/earth/resources/
> "Web
> Why did you make the new Google Earth a web app?
> Classic desktop Earth must be downloaded and installed on your Windows,
> Mac or Linux computer. By making new Earth a web app (on Chrome, for
> now) it can be used on most computers including Chromebooks, without a
> download. Being on the web makes it easier for us to make updates and
> ensure you're using the most up to date product. Plus, it makes it
> easier for you to share your own experiences with Google Earth by using
> a simple link."
> 
>   Note the " (on Chrome, for now)"...

A little too fast on the send button, missed adding this:
"
Why is the web version Chrome-only?
Our new cross-platform 3D rendering engine currently uses a Chrome-only
technology called Native Client to bring Earth to the web. However,
we’re closely tracking the evolution of WebAssembly (especially
threading) which will enable us to bring Google Earth to other major
browsers like Edge, Firefox and Safari. Stay tuned!"

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Re: The new Google Earth only runs on Chrome, why?

[Ray_Net]

WaltS48 wrote on 22-04-17 14:43:

On 4/22/17 4:01 AM, Dirk Munk wrote:
I wanted to use Google Earth yesterday, and I was surprised with the 
announcement that there was a new Google Earth for use in a browser. 
The announcement contained a link to https://earth.google.com/web/ , 
but when I opened it with SeaMonkey I got this message "Aw snap! The 
new Google Earth isn't supported by your browser yet.", and a message 
to try it in Chrome.


Why doesn't the new Google Earth run in SeaMonkey / Firefox etc.?



Breaking News!

 






Where we can read:

Major downside, apart from the features that it does not support, is 
that it is Chrome exclusive currently. This, like many other things, 
will probably change in the future.


So, just wait for the future ...
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Re: The new Google Earth only runs on Chrome, why?

[Luis]

Dirk Munk wrote:
I wanted to use Google Earth yesterday, and I was surprised with the 
announcement that there was a new Google Earth for use in a browser. The 
announcement contained a link to https://earth.google.com/web/ , but 
when I opened it with SeaMonkey I got this message "Aw snap! The new 
Google Earth isn't supported by your browser yet.", and a message to try 
it in Chrome.


Why doesn't the new Google Earth run in SeaMonkey / Firefox etc.?


There is no free lunch.
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Re: The new Google Earth only runs on Chrome, why?

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On 4/22/17 4:01 AM, Dirk Munk wrote:
I wanted to use Google Earth yesterday, and I was surprised with the 
announcement that there was a new Google Earth for use in a browser. 
The announcement contained a link to https://earth.google.com/web/ , 
but when I opened it with SeaMonkey I got this message "Aw snap! The 
new Google Earth isn't supported by your browser yet.", and a message 
to try it in Chrome.


Why doesn't the new Google Earth run in SeaMonkey / Firefox etc.?



Breaking News!





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Re: The new Google Earth only runs on Chrome, why?

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Dirk Munk  writes:

> I wanted to use Google Earth yesterday, and I was surprised with the
> announcement that there was a new Google Earth for use in a browser. The
> announcement contained a link to https://earth.google.com/web/ , but when I
> opened it with SeaMonkey I got this message "Aw snap! The new Google Earth
> isn't supported by your browser yet.", and a message to try it in Chrome.
>
> Why doesn't the new Google Earth run in SeaMonkey / Firefox etc.?

I changed my user agent string to try and make it work, but it just
comes up with a broken image link. I suspect they have done something
fancy to make it work with chrome, maybe tailored chrome a bit.
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Re: The new Google Earth only runs on Chrome, why?

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

On 4/22/2017 1:01 AM, Dirk Munk wrote:

I wanted to use Google Earth yesterday, and I was surprised with the
announcement that there was a new Google Earth for use in a browser. The
announcement contained a link to https://earth.google.com/web/ , but
when I opened it with SeaMonkey I got this message "Aw snap! The new
Google Earth isn't supported by your browser yet.", and a message to try
it in Chrome.

Why doesn't the new Google Earth run in SeaMonkey / Firefox etc.?


Google is self-fish and wants to be the dominance. Remember when 
Microsoft/MS required to use its Internet Explorer (IE) web browser? :(


What I really is updated non-web browser clients like with its Pro 
versions. :(

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Re: The new Google Earth only runs on Chrome, why?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Dirk Munk wrote:


I wanted to use Google Earth yesterday, and I was surprised with the
announcement that there was a new Google Earth for use in a browser.
The announcement contained a link to https://earth.google.com/web/ ,
but when I opened it with SeaMonkey I got this message "Aw snap! The
new Google Earth isn't supported by your browser yet.", and a message
to try it in Chrome.

Why doesn't the new Google Earth run in SeaMonkey / Firefox etc.?


Arrogance? Stupidity? Your guess is as good as mine.

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