[OT] SM 2.26.1 v 2.29.1+ - was Re: blip.tv's videos don't show in SM v2.26.1?

2014-11-16 Thread NoOp
On 11/14/2014 08:18 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 11/13/2014 2:11 PM, MCBastos wrote:
 On 12/11/2014 04:47, Ant wrote:
 But it works in v2.30. Is anyone else seeing this too or just me on my 
 three different computers (Windows (XP Pro SP3 * 64-bit 7 EE SP1)) and 
 64-bit Debian stable? I also have the latest Flash players.
 
 Wait... you are saying that something doesn't work in the old version...
 but it works in the new version...
 
 Seems to me that either some necessary functionality has been added, or
 a bug has been fixed.
 
 My recommendation: upgrade to the version that works. The old version is
 *not* going to get fixed.
 
 
 I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can
 be used when autocomplete=off.  See
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1064639.
 

Cool. In your bug report you indicate that the blocking issue (saved
password used when autocomplete=off) is a possible 'security' issue.
Given your concern for security, how are you handling the NSS security
issue that is fixed in 29.1?

https://www.mozilla.org/security/advisories/mfsa2014-73/
(RSA Signature Forgery in NSS)
the same issue that caused all of these folks to patch their systems 
browsers as well:
https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2014-1568
http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/772676

I would much rather take the time to type in my password on the second
screen that subject my system to this NSS vulnerabilty.

That said, I reckon that you/we should start a new thread regarding this
subject rather than polluting Ant's thread any further with OT issues, eh?

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Re: blip.tv's videos don't show in SM v2.26.1?

2014-11-15 Thread Daniel

On 15/11/14 17:02, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

On 14/11/2014 03:57, Daniel wrote:


But, MCBasto, surely you are aware that some, here, are sticking with SM
2.26.1 because of other problems they are experiencing with later
versions!?!?


Sure, although personally, I haven't noticed such problems.

But, the long and short of it is that if there WAS a bug in 2.26, it
WON'T be fixed in 2.26. That version no longer receives patches. It's
over. Finito. That ship has sailed.

If newer versions don't present the bug, there's no point arguing about
it. It's a FIXED bug. . Argue about whatever issues are keeping you from
updating to the latest version. Whatever was the fix WON'T be backported
to 2.26.


That wasn't the point; read more carefully.

Daniel is saying there are problems with /later/ versions, that's why
he's not upgrading. For him, 2.26.1 is the last good version.


Close, but not quite!!

Others are saying that they have been having problems with later 
versions so are sticking with SM 2.26.1


*Daniel* has already moved on to 2.30b1 and, now, 2.31b1 on Linux!! 
SM2.29 on Win7, as shown in my sig file!!


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Re: blip.tv's videos don't show in SM v2.26.1?

2014-11-15 Thread NoOp
On 11/14/2014 07:30 AM, Mason83 wrote:
 On 14/11/2014 14:06, WaltS48 wrote:
 
 On 11/14/2014 07:47 AM, Mason83 wrote:

 2.30 has the native h264 decoder from Cisco AFAIU.
 
 Not that I can see in my SeaMonkey 2.30.
 
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.30/
 OpenH264 support (sandboxed) has been added.

Not in the linux builds:

disable-gstreamer is still in about:buildconfig

Three months ago this was supposed to change:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1047975
(Re-enable gstreamer, pulseaudio in mozconfigs)

 
 However... https://www.youtube.com/html5 doesn't list H.264 support
 (mind you, it doesn't list VP8 either, maybe one of my extensions is
 breaking Google's detection routine...
 
 Regards.
 


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Re: blip.tv's videos don't show in SM v2.26.1?

2014-11-14 Thread Mason83
On 13/11/2014 23:11, MCBastos wrote:
 On 12/11/2014 04:47, Ant wrote:
 But it works in v2.30. Is anyone else seeing this too or just me on my 
 three different computers (Windows (XP Pro SP3 * 64-bit 7 EE SP1)) and 
 64-bit Debian stable? I also have the latest Flash players.
 
 Wait... you are saying that something doesn't work in the old version...
 but it works in the new version...
 
 Seems to me that either some necessary functionality has been added, or
 a bug has been fixed.

2.30 has the native h264 decoder from Cisco AFAIU.

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Re: blip.tv's videos don't show in SM v2.26.1?

2014-11-14 Thread WaltS48

On 11/14/2014 07:47 AM, Mason83 wrote:

On 13/11/2014 23:11, MCBastos wrote:

On 12/11/2014 04:47, Ant wrote:

But it works in v2.30. Is anyone else seeing this too or just me on my
three different computers (Windows (XP Pro SP3 * 64-bit 7 EE SP1)) and
64-bit Debian stable? I also have the latest Flash players.

Wait... you are saying that something doesn't work in the old version...
but it works in the new version...

Seems to me that either some necessary functionality has been added, or
a bug has been fixed.

2.30 has the native h264 decoder from Cisco AFAIU.



Not that I can see in my SeaMonkey 2.30.
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Re: blip.tv's videos don't show in SM v2.26.1?

2014-11-14 Thread Mason83
On 14/11/2014 14:06, WaltS48 wrote:

 On 11/14/2014 07:47 AM, Mason83 wrote:

 2.30 has the native h264 decoder from Cisco AFAIU.
 
 Not that I can see in my SeaMonkey 2.30.

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.30/
OpenH264 support (sandboxed) has been added.

However... https://www.youtube.com/html5 doesn't list H.264 support
(mind you, it doesn't list VP8 either, maybe one of my extensions is
breaking Google's detection routine...

Regards.

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Re: blip.tv's videos don't show in SM v2.26.1?

2014-11-14 Thread Mason83
On 14/11/2014 16:30, Mason83 wrote:
 On 14/11/2014 14:06, WaltS48 wrote:
 
 On 11/14/2014 07:47 AM, Mason83 wrote:

 2.30 has the native h264 decoder from Cisco AFAIU.

 Not that I can see in my SeaMonkey 2.30.
 
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.30/
 OpenH264 support (sandboxed) has been added.
 
 However... https://www.youtube.com/html5 doesn't list H.264 support
 (mind you, it doesn't list VP8 either, maybe one of my extensions is
 breaking Google's detection routine...

I don't know why VP8 is not listed, but AFAIU, OpenH264 is used
for WebRTC, not for the video tag:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1057646

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Re: blip.tv's videos don't show in SM v2.26.1?

2014-11-14 Thread David E. Ross
On 11/13/2014 2:11 PM, MCBastos wrote:
 On 12/11/2014 04:47, Ant wrote:
 But it works in v2.30. Is anyone else seeing this too or just me on my 
 three different computers (Windows (XP Pro SP3 * 64-bit 7 EE SP1)) and 
 64-bit Debian stable? I also have the latest Flash players.
 
 Wait... you are saying that something doesn't work in the old version...
 but it works in the new version...
 
 Seems to me that either some necessary functionality has been added, or
 a bug has been fixed.
 
 My recommendation: upgrade to the version that works. The old version is
 *not* going to get fixed.
 

I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can
be used when autocomplete=off.  See
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1064639.

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Re: blip.tv's videos don't show in SM v2.26.1?

2014-11-14 Thread EE

Mason83 wrote:

On 13/11/2014 23:11, MCBastos wrote:

On 12/11/2014 04:47, Ant wrote:

But it works in v2.30. Is anyone else seeing this too or just me on my
three different computers (Windows (XP Pro SP3 * 64-bit 7 EE SP1)) and
64-bit Debian stable? I also have the latest Flash players.


Wait... you are saying that something doesn't work in the old version...
but it works in the new version...

Seems to me that either some necessary functionality has been added, or
a bug has been fixed.


2.30 has the native h264 decoder from Cisco AFAIU.

But I still cannot restore .json bookmarks!  I updated anyway, and I can 
import .html, but being able to restore .json would be nice.


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Re: blip.tv's videos don't show in SM v2.26.1?

2014-11-14 Thread MCBastos
On 14/11/2014 03:57, Daniel wrote:

 But, MCBasto, surely you are aware that some, here, are sticking with SM 
 2.26.1 because of other problems they are experiencing with later 
 versions!?!?

Sure, although personally, I haven't noticed such problems.

But, the long and short of it is that if there WAS a bug in 2.26, it
WON'T be fixed in 2.26. That version no longer receives patches. It's
over. Finito. That ship has sailed.

If newer versions don't present the bug, there's no point arguing about
it. It's a FIXED bug. . Argue about whatever issues are keeping you from
updating to the latest version. Whatever was the fix WON'T be backported
to 2.26.


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Re: blip.tv's videos don't show in SM v2.26.1?

2014-11-14 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

MCBastos wrote:

On 14/11/2014 03:57, Daniel wrote:


But, MCBasto, surely you are aware that some, here, are sticking with SM
2.26.1 because of other problems they are experiencing with later
versions!?!?


Sure, although personally, I haven't noticed such problems.

But, the long and short of it is that if there WAS a bug in 2.26, it
WON'T be fixed in 2.26. That version no longer receives patches. It's
over. Finito. That ship has sailed.

If newer versions don't present the bug, there's no point arguing about
it. It's a FIXED bug. . Argue about whatever issues are keeping you from
updating to the latest version. Whatever was the fix WON'T be backported
to 2.26.


That wasn't the point; read more carefully.

Daniel is saying there are problems with /later/ versions, that's why 
he's not upgrading. For him, 2.26.1 is the last good version.


Not my experience, just my translation. YMMV.

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Re: blip.tv's videos don't show in SM v2.26.1?

2014-11-13 Thread MCBastos
On 12/11/2014 04:47, Ant wrote:
 But it works in v2.30. Is anyone else seeing this too or just me on my 
 three different computers (Windows (XP Pro SP3 * 64-bit 7 EE SP1)) and 
 64-bit Debian stable? I also have the latest Flash players.

Wait... you are saying that something doesn't work in the old version...
but it works in the new version...

Seems to me that either some necessary functionality has been added, or
a bug has been fixed.

My recommendation: upgrade to the version that works. The old version is
*not* going to get fixed.
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Re: blip.tv's videos don't show in SM v2.26.1?

2014-11-13 Thread Daniel

On 14/11/14 09:11, MCBastos wrote:

On 12/11/2014 04:47, Ant wrote:

But it works in v2.30. Is anyone else seeing this too or just me on my
three different computers (Windows (XP Pro SP3 * 64-bit 7 EE SP1)) and
64-bit Debian stable? I also have the latest Flash players.


Wait... you are saying that something doesn't work in the old version...
but it works in the new version...

Seems to me that either some necessary functionality has been added, or
a bug has been fixed.

My recommendation: upgrade to the version that works. The old version is
*not* going to get fixed.


But, MCBasto, surely you are aware that some, here, are sticking with SM 
2.26.1 because of other problems they are experiencing with later 
versions!?!?


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Re: blip.tv's videos don't show in SM v2.26.1?

2014-11-13 Thread Ant

On 11/13/2014 9:57 PM PT, Daniel typed:


But it works in v2.30. Is anyone else seeing this too or just me on my
three different computers (Windows (XP Pro SP3 * 64-bit 7 EE SP1)) and
64-bit Debian stable? I also have the latest Flash players.


Wait... you are saying that something doesn't work in the old version...
but it works in the new version...

Seems to me that either some necessary functionality has been added, or
a bug has been fixed.

My recommendation: upgrade to the version that works. The old version is
*not* going to get fixed.


But, MCBasto, surely you are aware that some, here, are sticking with SM
2.26.1 because of other problems they are experiencing with later
versions!?!?


Ditto. :(
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