Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work
On or about 11/30/2009 12:08 AM, Leonidas Jones typed the following: S N I P SeaMonkey 1.1.18 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 *Firefox/2.0.0.7* *Emphasis mine.* S N I P Neither 'Firefox/2.0.0.7' nor 'Emphasis mine.' shows in *bold*. Why? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work
u...@domain.invalid: Neither 'Firefox/2.0.0.7' nor 'Emphasis mine.' shows in *bold*. Why? In the first case it is due to the number 7 and in the second case it is due to the point. Try a few examples. Such with letters on both ends will be displayed in bold. AFAIR a very old bug. Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work
On or about 11/30/2009 9:57 AM, Hartmut Figge typed the following: u...@domain.invalid: Neither 'Firefox/2.0.0.7' nor 'Emphasis mine.' shows in *bold*. Why? In the first case it is due to the number 7 and in the second case it is due to the point. Try a few examples. Such with letters on both ends will be displayed in bold. AFAIR a very old bug. Hartmut Thanks Hartmut, for the explanation. Never came across that before. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work
On 11/29/2009 10:07 PM, Bush wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 11/29/2009 5:40 PM, Bush wrote: Bush wrote: /snip/ On the SeaMonkey 1.1.18 menu bar, select [Help About SeaMonkey]. Under the large-type link for SeaMonkey 1.1.18 at the top of the page, do you see the following: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 SeaMonkey/1.1.18 If you see anything different, please copy the entire string and paste it into a reply to this message. SeaMonkey 1.1.18 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7 Okay, you spoofed your 1.1.18 profile to Firefox. That is the sole reason it works for you in 1.1.18 and not 2.0. Spoof 2.0 as Firefox, and it works too, as I have found. Your fix is ludicrous. You are letting your anger get the better of you. Lets take a deep breathe here. Lee I spoofed Nothing ... What is Spoof ? I had seamonket 1.1.18 and uninstalled it then I installed 2.0 Found it was a piece of Crap. So I uninstalled it And now I installed 1.1.18 again . Copied over the files I saved to DVD's prior to installing 2.0. I am Not Angry ... I love trying to Get a piece of Crap up and Running... But 2.0 is out of my Class . So how does one Get rid of this So called SPOOF ? Deep breath myself. Look at the User Agent string you posted in response to David's request. Its above, but here it is again: SeaMonkey 1.1.18 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 *Firefox/2.0.0.7* *Emphasis mine.* You have your 1.1.18 profile reporting that it is Firefox 2.0.07 on Windows XP, instead of SeaMonkey 1.1.18 on Windows XP. The site's browser sniffer lets you in because it thinks you are using ff 2.0.0.7. That's called UA spoofing. The User Agent string is what is reported to the web site's server as the browser and OS you are using. At some time, you changed the User Agent string in SeaMonkey 1.1.18 to spoof FF 2.0.0.7, probably to fix a similar problem with another web site. You may not remember doing it, but clearly you did it at some time. This can be done manually in about:config, or by an extension, such as teh UA switcher. I don't know how you did it. Installing 2.0 caused SeaMonkey to report as what it actually is, SeaMonkey 2.0. If I spoof the 2.0 UA to report as FF 3.5, it works fine too. To tell users that going back to Sm 1.1.18 to *fix* this problem is totally incorrect. SM 1.1.18 with its proper user agent has exactly the same problem as SM 2.0. I understand your frustration over the Sm 2.0 upgrade. Still, it is unwise to simply post blanket *fixes* as you have done tonight. Its not always correct, indeed often wrong, and its not helpsing users to solve 2.0 problems. Lee Too bad I am Using Windows 7 professional... Now How did that error Happen ? As stated before . I know nothing about Spoofing... Its just that the method Both of you think is Accurate , IS in NO WAY accurate . Windows 7 Pro and Seamonkey 1.1.18 No Xp on my hard drive , I did a NEW INSTALL ( No Upgrade) of win 7 . and here is your So called spoofing results again SeaMonkey 1.1.18 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7 Good Grief! The only way your SeaMonkey 1.1.X will report that user agent value is if YOU put it in there at some point. The fact that you don't remember doing it doesn't change that fact. The spoofing goes in the Profile. The profile is not shared between SeaMonkey 1.1.X and SeaMonkey 2.X, so the spoofing done in 1.1.X would not have been copied to 2.0 (unless, again, you copied it). As a result, the fact that your installation of SeaMonkey 2.0 is not spoofing itself as FireFox is not a surprise. ps... When I had Xp and Seamonkey 1.1.18 I was able to get into the Blm Website . and prior to win7 installation I NEVER installed The Firefox standalones on this computer . Installing Firefox has nothing to do with having SeaMonkey spoof itself as firefox. Do you still not understand what spoofing is? It was explained to you in a previous post. I first went to Blm site Way back in 2002 when I started Research on my Family History . I found my Grandfathers Homesteader property via that site and even printed out a copy of the Deed , So I guess I SPOOFED seamonkey to read as seamonkey 2.0 . SEVEN years before seamonkey 2.0 was released . Where do you see that? According to your User Agent string above, you spoofed SeaMonkey 1.1.X to report itself as Firefox 2.0.07, not SeaMonkey 2.0. You don't seem to want any help, but rather just want to sling mud at other SeaMonkey users. What's the point in that? Whom do you believe you are helping? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list
Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work
On 11/29/2009 8:46 PM, Bush wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 11/29/2009 5:40 PM, Bush wrote: Bush wrote: A US A site is not accessible with Seamonkey 2.0 http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ Here is the fix #1 uninstall seamonkey 2.x BETA #2 reinstall seamonkey 1.1.18 And the site is Viewable But wait for seamonket 2.5 to be released and try again . I get the problem with SeaMonkey 1.1.18. On the SeaMonkey 1.1.18 menu bar, select [Help About SeaMonkey]. Under the large-type link for SeaMonkey 1.1.18 at the top of the page, do you see the following: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 SeaMonkey/1.1.18 If you see anything different, please copy the entire string and paste it into a reply to this message. SeaMonkey 1.1.18 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7 Okay, you spoofed your 1.1.18 profile to Firefox. That is the sole reason it works for you in 1.1.18 and not 2.0. Spoof 2.0 as Firefox, and it works too, as I have found. Your fix is ludicrous. You are letting your anger get the better of you. Lets take a deep breathe here. Lee I spoofed Nothing ... What is Spoof ? I had seamonket 1.1.18 and uninstalled it then I installed 2.0 Found it was a piece of Crap. So I uninstalled it And now I installed 1.1.18 again . Copied over the files I saved to DVD's prior to installing 2.0. I am Not Angry ... I love trying to Get a piece of Crap up and Running... But 2.0 is out of my Class . So how does one Get rid of this So called SPOOF ? Spoofing is how a user counteracts sniffing. For an explanation of sniffing, see my http://www.rossde.com/internet/Webdevelopers.html#sniff. For an explanation of spoofing, see my http://www.rossde.com/internet/intr_gloss.html#spoof. To summarize, you told http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ that you were using Firefox 2.0.0.7 when you were actually using SeaMonkey 1.1.18. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work
On 11/29/2009 10:07 PM, Bush wrote: Too bad I am Using Windows 7 professional... Now How did that error Happen ? As stated before . I know nothing about Spoofing... Its just that the method Both of you think is Accurate , IS in NO WAY accurate . Windows 7 Pro and Seamonkey 1.1.18 No Xp on my hard drive , I did a NEW INSTALL ( No Upgrade) of win 7 . and here is your So called spoofing results again SeaMonkey 1.1.18 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7 It's not an error. You had to have set a preference to say that you are using Firefox 2.0.0.7 on Windows XP (which is the meaning of Windows NT 5.1). ps... When I had Xp and Seamonkey 1.1.18 I was able to get into the Blm Website . and prior to win7 installation I NEVER installed The Firefox standalones on this computer . I first went to Blm site Way back in 2002 when I started Research on my Family History . I found my Grandfathers Homesteader property via that site and even printed out a copy of the Deed , So I guess I SPOOFED seamonkey to read as seamonkey 2.0 . SEVEN years before seamonkey 2.0 was released . Way back in 2002, the site had to be different. They upgraded (??) the site sometime in the past 7 years. You never noticed because, when that happened, you were already telling Web servers that you were using Firefox. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work
David E. Ross wrote: On 11/29/2009 10:07 PM, Bush wrote: Too bad I am Using Windows 7 professional... Now How did that error Happen ? As stated before . I know nothing about Spoofing... Its just that the method Both of you think is Accurate , IS in NO WAY accurate . Windows 7 Pro and Seamonkey 1.1.18 No Xp on my hard drive , I did a NEW INSTALL ( No Upgrade) of win 7 . and here is your So called spoofing results again SeaMonkey 1.1.18 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7 It's not an error. You had to have set a preference to say that you are using Firefox 2.0.0.7 on Windows XP (which is the meaning of Windows NT 5.1). ps... When I had Xp and Seamonkey 1.1.18 I was able to get into the Blm Website . and prior to win7 installation I NEVER installed The Firefox standalones on this computer . I first went to Blm site Way back in 2002 when I started Research on my Family History . I found my Grandfathers Homesteader property via that site and even printed out a copy of the Deed , So I guess I SPOOFED seamonkey to read as seamonkey 2.0 . SEVEN years before seamonkey 2.0 was released . Way back in 2002, the site had to be different. They upgraded (??) the site sometime in the past 7 years. You never noticed because, when that happened, you were already telling Web servers that you were using Firefox. Does not make any Sence that I could So Called SPOOF an earlier Version Way before the newer Version Was even Thought of .. What about Win 7 and Win xp thing ? I will have to Check and see if win7 is running ver 1.1.18 in Compatibility Mode . ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work
Bush wrote: A US A site is not accessible with Seamonkey 2.0 http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ Here is the fix #1 uninstall seamonkey 2.x BETA #2 reinstall seamonkey 1.1.18 And the site is Viewable But wait for seamonket 2.5 to be released and try again . ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work
On 11/29/2009 5:40 PM, Bush wrote: Bush wrote: A US A site is not accessible with Seamonkey 2.0 http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ Here is the fix #1 uninstall seamonkey 2.x BETA #2 reinstall seamonkey 1.1.18 And the site is Viewable But wait for seamonket 2.5 to be released and try again . I get the problem with SeaMonkey 1.1.18. On the SeaMonkey 1.1.18 menu bar, select [Help About SeaMonkey]. Under the large-type link for SeaMonkey 1.1.18 at the top of the page, do you see the following: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 SeaMonkey/1.1.18 If you see anything different, please copy the entire string and paste it into a reply to this message. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work
David E. Ross wrote: On 11/29/2009 5:40 PM, Bush wrote: Bush wrote: A US A site is not accessible with Seamonkey 2.0 http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ Here is the fix #1 uninstall seamonkey 2.x BETA #2 reinstall seamonkey 1.1.18 And the site is Viewable But wait for seamonket 2.5 to be released and try again . I get the problem with SeaMonkey 1.1.18. On the SeaMonkey 1.1.18 menu bar, select [Help About SeaMonkey]. Under the large-type link for SeaMonkey 1.1.18 at the top of the page, do you see the following: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 SeaMonkey/1.1.18 If you see anything different, please copy the entire string and paste it into a reply to this message. SeaMonkey 1.1.18 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work
Bush wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 11/29/2009 5:40 PM, Bush wrote: Bush wrote: A US A site is not accessible with Seamonkey 2.0 http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ Here is the fix #1 uninstall seamonkey 2.x BETA #2 reinstall seamonkey 1.1.18 And the site is Viewable But wait for seamonket 2.5 to be released and try again . I get the problem with SeaMonkey 1.1.18. On the SeaMonkey 1.1.18 menu bar, select [Help About SeaMonkey]. Under the large-type link for SeaMonkey 1.1.18 at the top of the page, do you see the following: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 SeaMonkey/1.1.18 If you see anything different, please copy the entire string and paste it into a reply to this message. SeaMonkey 1.1.18 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7 Okay, you spoofed your 1.1.18 profile to Firefox. That is the sole reason it works for you in 1.1.18 and not 2.0. Spoof 2.0 as Firefox, and it works too, as I have found. Your fix is ludicrous. You are letting your anger get the better of you. Lets take a deep breathe here. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work
Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 11/29/2009 5:40 PM, Bush wrote: Bush wrote: A US A site is not accessible with Seamonkey 2.0 http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ Here is the fix #1 uninstall seamonkey 2.x BETA #2 reinstall seamonkey 1.1.18 And the site is Viewable But wait for seamonket 2.5 to be released and try again . I get the problem with SeaMonkey 1.1.18. On the SeaMonkey 1.1.18 menu bar, select [Help About SeaMonkey]. Under the large-type link for SeaMonkey 1.1.18 at the top of the page, do you see the following: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 SeaMonkey/1.1.18 If you see anything different, please copy the entire string and paste it into a reply to this message. SeaMonkey 1.1.18 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7 Okay, you spoofed your 1.1.18 profile to Firefox. That is the sole reason it works for you in 1.1.18 and not 2.0. Spoof 2.0 as Firefox, and it works too, as I have found. Your fix is ludicrous. You are letting your anger get the better of you. Lets take a deep breathe here. Lee I spoofed Nothing ... What is Spoof ? I had seamonket 1.1.18 and uninstalled it then I installed 2.0 Found it was a piece of Crap. So I uninstalled it And now I installed 1.1.18 again . Copied over the files I saved to DVD's prior to installing 2.0. I am Not Angry ... I love trying to Get a piece of Crap up and Running... But 2.0 is out of my Class . So how does one Get rid of this So called SPOOF ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work
Bush wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 11/29/2009 5:40 PM, Bush wrote: Bush wrote: /snip/ On the SeaMonkey 1.1.18 menu bar, select [Help About SeaMonkey]. Under the large-type link for SeaMonkey 1.1.18 at the top of the page, do you see the following: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 SeaMonkey/1.1.18 If you see anything different, please copy the entire string and paste it into a reply to this message. SeaMonkey 1.1.18 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7 Okay, you spoofed your 1.1.18 profile to Firefox. That is the sole reason it works for you in 1.1.18 and not 2.0. Spoof 2.0 as Firefox, and it works too, as I have found. Your fix is ludicrous. You are letting your anger get the better of you. Lets take a deep breathe here. Lee I spoofed Nothing ... What is Spoof ? I had seamonket 1.1.18 and uninstalled it then I installed 2.0 Found it was a piece of Crap. So I uninstalled it And now I installed 1.1.18 again . Copied over the files I saved to DVD's prior to installing 2.0. I am Not Angry ... I love trying to Get a piece of Crap up and Running... But 2.0 is out of my Class . So how does one Get rid of this So called SPOOF ? Deep breath myself. Look at the User Agent string you posted in response to David's request. Its above, but here it is again: SeaMonkey 1.1.18 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 *Firefox/2.0.0.7* *Emphasis mine.* You have your 1.1.18 profile reporting that it is Firefox 2.0.07 on Windows XP, instead of SeaMonkey 1.1.18 on Windows XP. The site's browser sniffer lets you in because it thinks you are using ff 2.0.0.7. That's called UA spoofing. The User Agent string is what is reported to the web site's server as the browser and OS you are using. At some time, you changed the User Agent string in SeaMonkey 1.1.18 to spoof FF 2.0.0.7, probably to fix a similar problem with another web site. You may not remember doing it, but clearly you did it at some time. This can be done manually in about:config, or by an extension, such as teh UA switcher. I don't know how you did it. Installing 2.0 caused SeaMonkey to report as what it actually is, SeaMonkey 2.0. If I spoof the 2.0 UA to report as FF 3.5, it works fine too. To tell users that going back to Sm 1.1.18 to *fix* this problem is totally incorrect. SM 1.1.18 with its proper user agent has exactly the same problem as SM 2.0. I understand your frustration over the Sm 2.0 upgrade. Still, it is unwise to simply post blanket *fixes* as you have done tonight. Its not always correct, indeed often wrong, and its not helpsing users to solve 2.0 problems. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work
Rufus wrote: JAS wrote: Bush wrote: A US A site is not accessible with Seamonkey 2.0 http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ I am using Windows and XP PRO and SM2 and have browsed around the site with no problem. JAS Didn't work for me using SM 2.0 on a Mac...I tried turning JavaScript off, and it still didn't work. See my UA Microsoft VBScript runtime error '800a000d' Type mismatch: 'CDbl' /Frameworks\Classes\Browser.cls, line 134 -- -Rinaldi- Andrea: Unhappy the land that has no heroes. Galileo: No, unhappy the land that _needs_ heroes. -- Bertolt Brecht, Life of Galileo ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work
Bush wrote: JAS wrote: Bush wrote: A US A site is not accessible with Seamonkey 2.0 http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ I am using Windows and XP PRO and SM2 and have browsed around the site with no problem. JAS Win 7 Win 7 pro and seamonkey 2.0 and the site doesnot Work... I was able to view the site when I had Xp Home and seamonkey 1.1.18 Was able to get in using iCab, Safari, FireFox 3.5.5, OmniWeb, Opera Mac. But not SM2 -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work
On 11/27/2009 4:49 PM, JAS wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 11/27/2009 9:51 AM, JAS wrote: Bush wrote: A US A site is not accessible with Seamonkey 2.0 http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ I am using Windows and XP PRO and SM2 and have browsed around the site with no problem. JAS This is an obvious case of faulty browser sniffing. When I go there with SM 2, I get a three-line display: Microsoft VBScript runtime error '800a000d' Type mismatch: 'CDbl' /Frameworks\Classes\Browser.cls, line 134 When I go there spoofing Firefox 3.5.3, the page displays. This is bug #419907, submitted almost two years ago (27 Feb 08) and still not fixed. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=419907. If you (JAS) can view this site okay with SeaMonkey, you are likely spoofing Firefox. If so, you are not helping to fix the problem because the server logs for that site do not indicate attempts to access via SeaMonkey. Here is what I have: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 Lightning/1.0pre NOT Firefox/3.5 SeaMonkey/2.0 The presence of Firefox/3.5 in the string causes the server to log your visit as if by the Firefox 3.5 browser. Unless a human scans through a multitude of raw data (unlikely), no one will know that you were actually using SeaMonkey 2.0. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work
On 11/27/2009 8:16 PM, Bush wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 11/27/2009 9:51 AM, JAS wrote: Bush wrote: A US A site is not accessible with Seamonkey 2.0 http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ I am using Windows and XP PRO and SM2 and have browsed around the site with no problem. JAS This is an obvious case of faulty browser sniffing. When I go there with SM 2, I get a three-line display: Microsoft VBScript runtime error '800a000d' Type mismatch: 'CDbl' /Frameworks\Classes\Browser.cls, line 134 When I go there spoofing Firefox 3.5.3, the page displays. This is bug #419907, submitted almost two years ago (27 Feb 08) and still not fixed. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=419907. If you (JAS) can view this site okay with SeaMonkey, you are likely spoofing Firefox. If so, you are not helping to fix the problem because the server logs for that site do not indicate attempts to access via SeaMonkey. As I stated when I created this post . Win Xp Home Seamonkey 1.1.18 Was able to access this site. --- Upgraded to Win 7 professional Seamonkey 2.0 Cannot access the site ... Both are the Same computer With SeaMonkey 1.1.18, I see the same error as with SeaMonkey 2.0. Bush: With SeaMonkey 1.1.18, go to your menu bar and select [Help About SeaMonkey]. Under the large-type link for SeaMonkey 1.1.18 at the top of the page, do you see the following: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 SeaMonkey/1.1.18 If you see anything different, please copy the entire string and paste it into a reply to this message. [I'm sorry if this appears posted twice. However, after almost 10 hours, my original posting of this reply did not appear in this thread.] -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work
Phillip Jones wrote: Bush wrote: A US A site is not accessible with Seamonkey 2.0 http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ This is what I see on SM2 Mac: Microsoft VBScript runtime error '800a000d' Type mismatch: 'CDbl' /Frameworks\Classes\Browser.cls, line 134 Same here. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work
David E. Ross wrote: On 11/27/2009 8:16 PM, Bush wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 11/27/2009 9:51 AM, JAS wrote: Bush wrote: A US A site is not accessible with Seamonkey 2.0 http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ I am using Windows and XP PRO and SM2 and have browsed around the site with no problem. JAS This is an obvious case of faulty browser sniffing. When I go there with SM 2, I get a three-line display: Microsoft VBScript runtime error '800a000d' Type mismatch: 'CDbl' /Frameworks\Classes\Browser.cls, line 134 When I go there spoofing Firefox 3.5.3, the page displays. This is bug #419907, submitted almost two years ago (27 Feb 08) and still not fixed. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=419907. If you (JAS) can view this site okay with SeaMonkey, you are likely spoofing Firefox. If so, you are not helping to fix the problem because the server logs for that site do not indicate attempts to access via SeaMonkey. As I stated when I created this post . Win Xp Home Seamonkey 1.1.18 Was able to access this site. --- Upgraded to Win 7 professional Seamonkey 2.0 Cannot access the site ... Both are the Same computer With SeaMonkey 1.1.18, I see the same error as with SeaMonkey 2.0. Bush: With SeaMonkey 1.1.18, go to your menu bar and select [Help About SeaMonkey]. Under the large-type link for SeaMonkey 1.1.18 at the top of the page, do you see the following: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 SeaMonkey/1.1.18 If you see anything different, please copy the entire string and paste it into a reply to this message. [I'm sorry if this appears posted twice. However, after almost 10 hours, my original posting of this reply did not appear in this thread.] Win xp and seamonkey 1.1.18 are long gone on this computer . ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work
On 11/27/2009 8:16 PM, Bush wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 11/27/2009 9:51 AM, JAS wrote: Bush wrote: A US A site is not accessible with Seamonkey 2.0 http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ I am using Windows and XP PRO and SM2 and have browsed around the site with no problem. JAS This is an obvious case of faulty browser sniffing. When I go there with SM 2, I get a three-line display: Microsoft VBScript runtime error '800a000d' Type mismatch: 'CDbl' /Frameworks\Classes\Browser.cls, line 134 When I go there spoofing Firefox 3.5.3, the page displays. This is bug #419907, submitted almost two years ago (27 Feb 08) and still not fixed. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=419907. If you (JAS) can view this site okay with SeaMonkey, you are likely spoofing Firefox. If so, you are not helping to fix the problem because the server logs for that site do not indicate attempts to access via SeaMonkey. As I stated when I created this post . Win Xp Home Seamonkey 1.1.18 Was able to access this site. --- Upgraded to Win 7 professional Seamonkey 2.0 Cannot access the site ... Both are the Same computer With SeaMonkey 1.1.18, I see the same error as with SeaMonkey 2.0. Bush: With SeaMonkey 1.1.18, go to your menu bar and select [Help About SeaMonkey]. Under the large-type link for SeaMonkey 1.1.18 at the top of the page, do you see the following: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 SeaMonkey/1.1.18 If you see anything different, please copy the entire string and paste it into a reply to this message. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work
A US A site is not accessible with Seamonkey 2.0 http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work
Bush wrote: A US A site is not accessible with Seamonkey 2.0 http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ I am using Windows and XP PRO and SM2 and have browsed around the site with no problem. JAS -- You either teach people to treat you with dignity and respect, or you don't. This means you are partly responsible for the mistreatment that you get at the hands of someone else. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work
JAS wrote: Bush wrote: A US A site is not accessible with Seamonkey 2.0 http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ I am using Windows and XP PRO and SM2 and have browsed around the site with no problem. JAS Didn't work for me using SM 2.0 on a Mac...I tried turning JavaScript off, and it still didn't work. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work
JAS wrote: Bush wrote: A US A site is not accessible with Seamonkey 2.0 http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ I am using Windows and XP PRO and SM2 and have browsed around the site with no problem. JAS Win 7 Win 7 pro and seamonkey 2.0 and the site doesnot Work... I was able to view the site when I had Xp Home and seamonkey 1.1.18 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work
Rufus wrote: JAS wrote: Bush wrote: A US A site is not accessible with Seamonkey 2.0 http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ I am using Windows and XP PRO and SM2 and have browsed around the site with no problem. JAS Didn't work for me using SM 2.0 on a Mac...I tried turning JavaScript off, and it still didn't work. I have default cookies and JavaScript on, don't know what to tell you as I am illiterate of Macs but I wish I had on along with my PC. What does the site do for you? JAS -- You either teach people to treat you with dignity and respect, or you don't. This means you are partly responsible for the mistreatment that you get at the hands of someone else. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work
On 11/27/2009 9:51 AM, JAS wrote: Bush wrote: A US A site is not accessible with Seamonkey 2.0 http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ I am using Windows and XP PRO and SM2 and have browsed around the site with no problem. JAS This is an obvious case of faulty browser sniffing. When I go there with SM 2, I get a three-line display: Microsoft VBScript runtime error '800a000d' Type mismatch: 'CDbl' /Frameworks\Classes\Browser.cls, line 134 When I go there spoofing Firefox 3.5.3, the page displays. This is bug #419907, submitted almost two years ago (27 Feb 08) and still not fixed. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=419907. If you (JAS) can view this site okay with SeaMonkey, you are likely spoofing Firefox. If so, you are not helping to fix the problem because the server logs for that site do not indicate attempts to access via SeaMonkey. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work
Bush wrote: A US A site is not accessible with Seamonkey 2.0 http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ This is what I see on SM2 Mac: Microsoft VBScript runtime error '800a000d' Type mismatch: 'CDbl' /Frameworks\Classes\Browser.cls, line 134 -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work
JAS wrote: Rufus wrote: JAS wrote: Bush wrote: A US A site is not accessible with Seamonkey 2.0 http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ I am using Windows and XP PRO and SM2 and have browsed around the site with no problem. JAS Didn't work for me using SM 2.0 on a Mac...I tried turning JavaScript off, and it still didn't work. I have default cookies and JavaScript on, don't know what to tell you as I am illiterate of Macs but I wish I had on along with my PC. What does the site do for you? JAS It gives me this error - Microsoft VBScript runtime error '800a000d' Type mismatch: 'CDbl' /Frameworks\Classes\Browser.cls, line 134 Which is why I also tried it with JavaScript off - I find that sometimes one can get around browser sniffers by not allowing Java to run, but not in this case. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work
Rufus wrote: JAS wrote: Rufus wrote: JAS wrote: Bush wrote: A US A site is not accessible with Seamonkey 2.0 http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ I am using Windows and XP PRO and SM2 and have browsed around the site with no problem. JAS Didn't work for me using SM 2.0 on a Mac...I tried turning JavaScript off, and it still didn't work. I have default cookies and JavaScript on, don't know what to tell you as I am illiterate of Macs but I wish I had on along with my PC. What does the site do for you? JAS It gives me this error - Microsoft VBScript runtime error '800a000d' Type mismatch: 'CDbl' /Frameworks\Classes\Browser.cls, line 134 Which is why I also tried it with JavaScript off - I find that sometimes one can get around browser sniffers by not allowing Java to run, but not in this case. My earlier reply never came through. As Daved E. Ross pointed out, its faulty browser sniffing. I spoofed as IE 6 on Win XP, and got right in with SM 2.0 on Mac Snow Leopard. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work
David E. Ross wrote: On 11/27/2009 9:51 AM, JAS wrote: Bush wrote: A US A site is not accessible with Seamonkey 2.0 http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ I am using Windows and XP PRO and SM2 and have browsed around the site with no problem. JAS This is an obvious case of faulty browser sniffing. When I go there with SM 2, I get a three-line display: Microsoft VBScript runtime error '800a000d' Type mismatch: 'CDbl' /Frameworks\Classes\Browser.cls, line 134 When I go there spoofing Firefox 3.5.3, the page displays. This is bug #419907, submitted almost two years ago (27 Feb 08) and still not fixed. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=419907. If you (JAS) can view this site okay with SeaMonkey, you are likely spoofing Firefox. If so, you are not helping to fix the problem because the server logs for that site do not indicate attempts to access via SeaMonkey. As I stated when I created this post . Win Xp Home Seamonkey 1.1.18 Was able to access this site. --- Upgraded to Win 7 professional Seamonkey 2.0 Cannot access the site ... Both are the Same computer ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
