Re: Thread Errantly Shows Unread Posts

2017-09-29 Thread rickman 

Daniel wrote on 9/29/2017 3:14 AM:

On 27/09/2017 11:41 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:


On 27/09/2017 1:48 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


If you look at the account name in the folder listing, it's bolded
if there are unread messages, and the count of unread messages is
shown in parentheses after the account name.

For example, this NG shows:
m.s.seamonkey (9)
at the moment. When I get done reading all unread messages in a few
minutes, it will show:
m.s.seamonkey (1)
because somewhere in one of those Italian spam threads there's an
unread message, but I don't see it because I've killed the thread.


Shouldn't "killing the thread", effectively, "Mark all messages as
read"?? So your unread count should be zero.

(Types the guy who has one thread in m.d.a.seamonkey (Status of GTK3
Development for Seamonkey) which continues to show up in the
accounts ... even though SeaMonkey knows there are no unread messages
in the thread or the group!! Similar thing with three threads in
m.gen!!)


In theory, yes. But there can be posts after I kill a thread -- should
SM automatically mark incoming messages in a killed thread as read?


I would hope so!! Am I wrong in thinking that's what should happen??


Or just not count killed threads in the total counts.  I'm not sure it makes 
sense to mark messages read automatically.  Threads can be unkilled and all 
the messages would be marked as read even though they were never seen.


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Re: Thread Errantly Shows Unread Posts

2017-09-29 Thread Daniel 

On 27/09/2017 11:41 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:


On 27/09/2017 1:48 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


If you look at the account name in the folder listing, it's bolded
if there are unread messages, and the count of unread messages is
shown in parentheses after the account name.

For example, this NG shows:
m.s.seamonkey (9)
at the moment. When I get done reading all unread messages in a few
minutes, it will show:
m.s.seamonkey (1)
because somewhere in one of those Italian spam threads there's an
unread message, but I don't see it because I've killed the thread.


Shouldn't "killing the thread", effectively, "Mark all messages as
read"?? So your unread count should be zero.

(Types the guy who has one thread in m.d.a.seamonkey (Status of GTK3
Development for Seamonkey) which continues to show up in the
accounts ... even though SeaMonkey knows there are no unread messages
in the thread or the group!! Similar thing with three threads in
m.gen!!)


In theory, yes. But there can be posts after I kill a thread -- should
SM automatically mark incoming messages in a killed thread as read?


I would hope so!! Am I wrong in thinking that's what should happen??

> 
 Like

a filter that doesn't move them, just changes their marking? That would
be nice...


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Re: Thread Errantly Shows Unread Posts

2017-09-27 Thread Paul B. Gallagher 

Daniel wrote:


On 27/09/2017 1:48 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


If you look at the account name in the folder listing, it's bolded
if there are unread messages, and the count of unread messages is
shown in parentheses after the account name.

For example, this NG shows:
m.s.seamonkey (9)
at the moment. When I get done reading all unread messages in a few
minutes, it will show:
m.s.seamonkey (1)
because somewhere in one of those Italian spam threads there's an
unread message, but I don't see it because I've killed the thread.


Shouldn't "killing the thread", effectively, "Mark all messages as
read"?? So your unread count should be zero.

(Types the guy who has one thread in m.d.a.seamonkey (Status of GTK3
Development for Seamonkey) which continues to show up in the
accounts ... even though SeaMonkey knows there are no unread messages
in the thread or the group!! Similar thing with three threads in
m.gen!!)


In theory, yes. But there can be posts after I kill a thread -- should 
SM automatically mark incoming messages in a killed thread as read? Like 
a filter that doesn't move them, just changes their marking? That would 
be nice...


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Re: Thread Errantly Shows Unread Posts

2017-09-27 Thread Daniel 

On 27/09/2017 1:48 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

rickman wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 9/17/2017 3:25 PM:


I've been using "K" (kill thread) on the Italian spam for which
our moderators have not found a solution, and I'm seeing inaccurate
unread counts because there are unread messages in those killed
threads. I've never seen those messages, much less read them, so
they contribute to the unread count.


What unread count is this?  My issue has to do with messages in a
single thread.  So if an entire thread is ignored, it would not
impact any other thread showing unread messages.


If you look at the account name in the folder listing, it's bolded if
there are unread messages, and the count of unread messages is shown in
parentheses after the account name.

For example, this NG shows:
m.s.seamonkey (9)
at the moment. When I get done reading all unread messages in a few
minutes, it will show:
m.s.seamonkey (1)
because somewhere in one of those Italian spam threads there's an unread
message, but I don't see it because I've killed the thread.

Shouldn't "killing the thread", effectively, "Mark all messages as 
read"?? So your unread count should be zero.


(Types the guy who has one thread in m.d.a.seamonkey (Status of GTK3 
Development for Seamonkey) which continues to show up in the accounts 
... even though SeaMonkey knows there are no unread messages in the 
thread or the group!! Similar thing with three threads in m.gen!!)


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Re: Thread Errantly Shows Unread Posts

2017-09-26 Thread Paul B. Gallagher 

rickman wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 9/17/2017 3:25 PM:


I've been using "K" (kill thread) on the Italian spam for which
our moderators have not found a solution, and I'm seeing inaccurate
unread counts because there are unread messages in those killed
threads. I've never seen those messages, much less read them, so
they contribute to the unread count.


What unread count is this?  My issue has to do with messages in a
single thread.  So if an entire thread is ignored, it would not
impact any other thread showing unread messages.


If you look at the account name in the folder listing, it's bolded if 
there are unread messages, and the count of unread messages is shown in 
parentheses after the account name.


For example, this NG shows:
m.s.seamonkey (9)
at the moment. When I get done reading all unread messages in a few 
minutes, it will show:

m.s.seamonkey (1)
because somewhere in one of those Italian spam threads there's an unread 
message, but I don't see it because I've killed the thread.


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Re: Thread Errantly Shows Unread Posts

2017-09-26 Thread rickman 

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 9/17/2017 3:25 PM:

Mason83 wrote:


On 16/09/2017 20:13, rickman wrote:

I have a thread in a newsgroup that shows the underline indicating
there are unread messages in that thread.  But when I open the
thread there are none. All messages in that thread are marked as
read.  I close the thread and the underline is still there.

I've tried enabling view-threads-all, -unread, ignored threads, etc
and no unread messages show up.

Any ideas?


Do you use "Ignore subthread" functionality?

There is a known bug, where threads with ignored subthreads will show
as "unread" although all messages have been read.


More than that.

I've been using "K" (kill thread) on the Italian spam for which our
moderators have not found a solution, and I'm seeing inaccurate unread
counts because there are unread messages in those killed threads. I've never
seen those messages, much less read them, so they contribute to the unread
count.


What unread count is this?  My issue has to do with messages in a single 
thread.  So if an entire thread is ignored, it would not impact any other 
thread showing unread messages.


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Re: Thread Errantly Shows Unread Posts

2017-09-26 Thread rickman 

Mason83 wrote on 9/17/2017 3:14 PM:

On 16/09/2017 20:13, rickman wrote:

I have a thread in a newsgroup that shows the underline indicating there are
unread messages in that thread.  But when I open the thread there are none.
All messages in that thread are marked as read.  I close the thread and the
underline is still there.

I've tried enabling view-threads-all, -unread, ignored threads, etc and no
unread messages show up.

Any ideas?


Do you use "Ignore subthread" functionality?


Not normally, but I may have tried it with that thread.



There is a known bug, where threads with ignored subthreads
will show as "unread" although all messages have been read.


How is this "ignore" feature removed?  I tried viewing "Ignored threads" and 
undoing the ignore, but I don't know if that would work for sub-threads.


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Re: Thread Errantly Shows Unread Posts

2017-09-17 Thread WaltS48 

On 9/17/17 3:25 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Mason83 wrote:


On 16/09/2017 20:13, rickman wrote:

I have a thread in a newsgroup that shows the underline indicating
there are unread messages in that thread.  But when I open the
thread there are none. All messages in that thread are marked as
read.  I close the thread and the underline is still there.

I've tried enabling view-threads-all, -unread, ignored threads, etc
and no unread messages show up.

Any ideas?


Do you use "Ignore subthread" functionality?

There is a known bug, where threads with ignored subthreads will show
as "unread" although all messages have been read.


More than that.

I've been using "K" (kill thread) on the Italian spam for which our 
moderators have not found a solution, and I'm seeing inaccurate unread 
counts because there are unread messages in those killed threads. I've 
never seen those messages, much less read them, so they contribute to 
the unread count.





AFAIK the SeaMonkey support newsgroup is not moderated. Only Firefox and 
Thunderbird are the moderated support newsgroups.


Some mozilla.dev groups may be moderated.

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Re: Thread Errantly Shows Unread Posts

2017-09-17 Thread Paul B. Gallagher 

Mason83 wrote:


On 16/09/2017 20:13, rickman wrote:

I have a thread in a newsgroup that shows the underline indicating
there are unread messages in that thread.  But when I open the
thread there are none. All messages in that thread are marked as
read.  I close the thread and the underline is still there.

I've tried enabling view-threads-all, -unread, ignored threads, etc
and no unread messages show up.

Any ideas?


Do you use "Ignore subthread" functionality?

There is a known bug, where threads with ignored subthreads will show
as "unread" although all messages have been read.


More than that.

I've been using "K" (kill thread) on the Italian spam for which our 
moderators have not found a solution, and I'm seeing inaccurate unread 
counts because there are unread messages in those killed threads. I've 
never seen those messages, much less read them, so they contribute to 
the unread count.


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Re: Thread Errantly Shows Unread Posts

2017-09-17 Thread Mason83 
On 16/09/2017 20:13, rickman wrote:
> I have a thread in a newsgroup that shows the underline indicating there are 
> unread messages in that thread.  But when I open the thread there are none. 
> All messages in that thread are marked as read.  I close the thread and the 
> underline is still there.
> 
> I've tried enabling view-threads-all, -unread, ignored threads, etc and no 
> unread messages show up.
> 
> Any ideas?

Do you use "Ignore subthread" functionality?

There is a known bug, where threads with ignored subthreads
will show as "unread" although all messages have been read.
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Re: Thread Errantly Shows Unread Posts

2017-09-17 Thread Daniel 

On 17/09/2017 12:47 PM, rickman wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 9/16/2017 6:35 PM:

On 9/16/17 2:13 PM, rickman wrote:

I have a thread in a newsgroup that shows the underline
indicating there are unread messages in that thread.  But when I
open the thread there are none. All messages in that thread are
marked as read.  I close the thread and the underline is still
there.

I've tried enabling view-threads-all, -unread, ignored threads,
etc and no unread messages show up.

Any ideas?


I usually unsubscribe from a newsgroup that shows that behavior,
then I subscribe to it again and all is well.


Yeah, that fixed the problem, but all info about what I've read and
not read is gone.  Oh well, it wasn't all that busy of a group.

Thanks


That's the situation I am discussing in my thread "Re-ordering the
Right-Click menu", rickman! But mine is for a busy group!!

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Re: Thread Errantly Shows Unread Posts

2017-09-16 Thread rickman 

WaltS48 wrote on 9/16/2017 6:35 PM:

On 9/16/17 2:13 PM, rickman wrote:

I have a thread in a newsgroup that shows the underline indicating there
are unread messages in that thread.  But when I open the thread there are
none. All messages in that thread are marked as read.  I close the thread
and the underline is still there.

I've tried enabling view-threads-all, -unread, ignored threads, etc and no
unread messages show up.

Any ideas?



I usually unsubscribe from a newsgroup that shows that behavior, then I
subscribe to it again and all is well.


Yeah, that fixed the problem, but all info about what I've read and not read 
is gone.  Oh well, it wasn't all that busy of a group.


Thanks

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Re: Thread Errantly Shows Unread Posts

2017-09-16 Thread WaltS48 

On 9/16/17 2:13 PM, rickman wrote:
I have a thread in a newsgroup that shows the underline indicating there 
are unread messages in that thread.  But when I open the thread there 
are none. All messages in that thread are marked as read.  I close the 
thread and the underline is still there.


I've tried enabling view-threads-all, -unread, ignored threads, etc and 
no unread messages show up.


Any ideas?



I usually unsubscribe from a newsgroup that shows that behavior, then I 
subscribe to it again and all is well.


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Thread Errantly Shows Unread Posts

2017-09-16 Thread rickman 
I have a thread in a newsgroup that shows the underline indicating there are 
unread messages in that thread.  But when I open the thread there are none. 
All messages in that thread are marked as read.  I close the thread and the 
underline is still there.


I've tried enabling view-threads-all, -unread, ignored threads, etc and no 
unread messages show up.


Any ideas?

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