Re: Threading don't work for one mail address

2009-12-15 Thread Steve Wendt

On 12/15/09 02:47 am, Martin Freitag wrote:


As I don't have TB, so that's not possible for me to do. But that editor
could be useful also in SM.


Maybe time to file an enhancement bug if it doesn't already exist? ;-)


It's the same as about:config
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Re: Threading don't work for one mail address

2009-12-14 Thread Neil

Arne wrote:

The mails with same subject that are not reply's has of course not any 
reference.


If you want to thread mails by subject you need to turn off the 
mail.strict_threading preference. If the replies don't begin with Re: 
then you will also need to turn on the mail.thread_without_re 
preference. After using about:config to change these preferences you 
will need to restart; then you can rebuild the summary file to rethread 
the messages.


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Re: Threading don't work for one mail address

2009-12-14 Thread Hartmut Figge
Arne:

As I said, I can see the point in threading By the References line 
in the header. The backside of threading by subject is that when I 
receive mails sent from mail programs (i.e. OE) translated to my 
native language (Swedish) they may not thread correctly, since the 
Re: is changed to SV:. So the subject line can have a lot of Re: 
SV: Re: SV: after posting back and forth several times. ;)

- user.js -
user_pref(mailnews.localizedRe, SV,Sv);
---

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Re: Threading don't work for one mail address

2009-12-14 Thread Hartmut Figge
Arne:
Hartmut Figge wrote:

 - user.js -
 user_pref(mailnews.localizedRe, SV,Sv);
 ---

Thanks, but what does that do? I don't like my SM to use SV or Sv. Re: 
is just fine and should be universally used. ;)

That replaces occurrences of 'SV' or 'Sv' with 'Re'. I am using the
similar Pref 'user_pref(mailnews.localizedRe, AW,Aw);' because
especially OE tends to use AW or Aw - abbreviation of Antwort - here in
Germany.

I don't like Aw: Re: Aw: Aw: Re: :)

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Re: Threading don't work for one mail address

2009-12-14 Thread Arne

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Arne:

Hartmut Figge wrote:



- user.js -
user_pref(mailnews.localizedRe, SV,Sv);
---


Thanks, but what does that do? I don't like my SM to use SV or Sv. Re:
is just fine and should be universally used. ;)


That replaces occurrences of 'SV' or 'Sv' with 'Re'. I am using the
similar Pref 'user_pref(mailnews.localizedRe, AW,Aw);' because
especially OE tends to use AW or Aw - abbreviation of Antwort - here in
Germany.

I don't like Aw: Re: Aw: Aw: Re: :)


Aha, thanks!

I could not find any existing user.js file in my Vista, so I created 
one to 
C:\Users\Arne\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ck0att16.default\ 



Hope that is the right place? As I believe the profiles for SM 1.1.18 
is on C:\Users\Arne\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Profiles\


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Re: Threading don't work for one mail address

2009-12-14 Thread Hartmut Figge
Arne:

I could not find any existing user.js file in my Vista, so I created 
one to 
C:\Users\Arne\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ck0att16.default\ 

Hope that is the right place?

Perhaps. I don't know anything about Windows. But if the prefs.js is in
this directory, then it should be the right place.

Unless of course you use multiple profiles. ;)

I could give a link to the German FAQ for profiles and user.js, but i
doubt that this would make you happy. *g*

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Re: Threading don't work for one mail address

2009-12-14 Thread Thomas Stache

On 14.12.2009 13:55, Arne wrote:

I could not find any existing user.js file in my Vista, so I created one
to
C:\Users\Arne\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ck0att16.default\

Hope that is the right place? As I believe the profiles for SM 1.1.18 is
on C:\Users\Arne\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Profiles\



A simpler way in Thunderbird 3:
Open the options/preferences window on the Advanced tab and click 
Config Editor (or the corresponding translated term).


Enter some letters to filter the list down to find the 
mailnews.localizedRe preference. Double-click the row to edit the 
value directly.


The value will be stored in your prefs.js file (user.js is something 
like a user-specific defaults file complementing prefs.js)

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Re: Threading don't work for one mail address

2009-12-14 Thread Hartmut Figge
Thomas Stache:

A simpler way in Thunderbird 3:
Open the options/preferences window on the Advanced tab and click 
Config Editor (or the corresponding translated term).

Or 'about:config' in the browser part of SM.

[...]
(user.js is something like a user-specific defaults file
complementing prefs.js)

The user.js has the advantage, that changes are documented and even
comments are possible. And you can take the user.js to another profile
or another machine.

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Re: Threading don't work for one mail address

2009-12-14 Thread Arne

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Arne:


I could not find any existing user.js file in my Vista, so I created
one to
C:\Users\Arne\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ck0att16.default\



Hope that is the right place?


Perhaps. I don't know anything about Windows. But if the prefs.js is in
this directory, then it should be the right place.


Yep, the prefs.js is there.


Unless of course you use multiple profiles. ;)


Nope, one is enough. I'm creating a test profile when/if I need to 
solve any problems where a clean profile is useful. ;)



I could give a link to the German FAQ for profiles and user.js, but i
doubt that this would make you happy. *g*


Well, I don't know much German, but I manage to understand some. Some 
years ago I was even enable to talk with a Russian doctor when I need 
some medical care when visiting Russia. The doctor did not talk or 
understand English at all, but German fairly good. :D


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Re: Threading don't work for one mail address

2009-12-14 Thread Arne

Thomas Stache wrote:

On 14.12.2009 13:55, Arne wrote:

I could not find any existing user.js file in my Vista, so I created one
to
C:\Users\Arne\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ck0att16.default\


Hope that is the right place? As I believe the profiles for SM 1.1.18 is
on C:\Users\Arne\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Profiles\



A simpler way in Thunderbird 3:
Open the options/preferences window on the Advanced tab and click
Config Editor (or the corresponding translated term).


As I don't have TB, so that's not possible for me to do. But that 
editor could be useful also in SM.



Enter some letters to filter the list down to find the
mailnews.localizedRe preference. Double-click the row to edit the
value directly.


That preference was not available with SM before I created the user.js 
file. At least I could not find it.


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Re: Threading don't work for one mail address

2009-12-14 Thread Hartmut Figge
Arne:
Hartmut Figge wrote:
 Arne:

 Hope that is the right place?

 Perhaps. I don't know anything about Windows. But if the prefs.js is in
 this directory, then it should be the right place.

Yep, the prefs.js is there.

Fine. You could check with 'about:config' if the setting was successful.

But another point. Crossposting without Followup-To is evil. And in this
special case .planning should not have been included. The right group
for your question is .support.seamonkey.

f'2 mozilla.support.seamonkey

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Re: Threading don't work for one mail address

2009-12-14 Thread Arne

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Arne:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Arne:



Hope that is the right place?


Perhaps. I don't know anything about Windows. But if the prefs.js is in
this directory, then it should be the right place.


Yep, the prefs.js is there.


Fine. You could check with 'about:config' if the setting was successful.


Checked and it's there. I understand that there is no such preference 
in about:config before it's created in user.js (or prefs.js)?



But another point. Crossposting without Followup-To is evil. And in this
special case .planning should not have been included. The right group
for your question is .support.seamonkey.


Sorry for that. As it was both a question and possible feature request 
to the developer team, I wasn't sure where to post it. But I did 
mentioned in my opening post that it was cross posted and somebody 
could set the follow up to the appropriate group.


Thanks for the guidance! Now waiting for the first reply with a SV/Sv 
to see the preference do it's duty.


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Re: Threading don't work for one mail address

2009-12-14 Thread Hartmut Figge
Arne:
Hartmut Figge wrote:
 Arne:

 Yep, the prefs.js is there.

 Fine. You could check with 'about:config' if the setting was successful.

Checked and it's there. I understand that there is no such preference 
in about:config before it's created in user.js (or prefs.js)?

Not all Prefs are existing under about:config. But they are if there is
a deviation from the default value. I hope that 'deviation' is right for
'Abweichung'. *g*

A new one could be created with 'New' from the context menu of a right
click.

 But another point. Crossposting without Followup-To is evil. And in this
 special case .planning should not have been included. The right group
 for your question is .support.seamonkey.

Sorry for that. As it was both a question and possible feature request 
to the developer team, I wasn't sure where to post it. But I did 
mentioned in my opening post that it was cross posted and somebody 
could set the follow up to the appropriate group.

Mhm. I see crosspostings very often in the groups of news.mozilla.org
and very seldom if at all a Followup-To is set. The OP should do it.

Thanks for the guidance! Now waiting for the first reply with a SV/Sv 
to see the preference do it's duty.

You could use a test group. I have just done so with 'Subject: AW: Re:
Aw: Re: Re: AW: ignore' and replying to it. Works fine. :)

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Re: Threading don't work for one mail address

2009-12-14 Thread Robert Kaiser

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Arne:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Arne:



Yep, the prefs.js is there.


Fine. You could check with 'about:config' if the setting was successful.


Checked and it's there. I understand that there is no such preference
in about:config before it's created in user.js (or prefs.js)?


Not all Prefs are existing under about:config. But they are if there is
a deviation from the default value. I hope that 'deviation' is right for
'Abweichung'. *g*


All prefs that are currently set in some way are there in about:config 
but what's right is that not all prefs need to be set. If they aren't, 
the most convient way to set them is to right-click and create a new 
pref right from about:config though ;-)


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Re: Threading don't work for one mail address

2009-12-14 Thread Arne

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Arne:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Arne:



Yep, the prefs.js is there.


Fine. You could check with 'about:config' if the setting was successful.


Checked and it's there. I understand that there is no such preference
in about:config before it's created in user.js (or prefs.js)?


Not all Prefs are existing under about:config. But they are if there is
a deviation from the default value. I hope that 'deviation' is right for
'Abweichung'. *g*


Correct, Abweichung means deviation, also according to Google 
Translate. ;)



A new one could be created with 'New' from the context menu of a right
click.


Ah, yes of course. If you know what to write there to make it work, as 
I think SM would not understand if I just make something up. ;)


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Threading don't work for one mail address

2009-12-13 Thread Arne

Hi,
I have several email accounts and to one of them I am receiving an 
email notice from a web forum when new posts are posted on threads I 
have subscribed to. The account is not used for any other purpose.


On SM 1.1.18 the emails concerning the same forum thread was always 
threaded in my inbox for the mail account. Now on SM 2.0 the threading 
don't work on that specific email account, as it does for all other 
accounts.


When testing to send ordinary email to the forum mail account and 
replying from and to it, the mails are threaded. So I guess something 
is changed in the way SM recognize the emails even if they have the 
same subject?


I can see in the mail header for the reply that it has a References: 
line, ref to the mail it reply's to. The mails with same subject that 
are not reply's has of course not any reference.


I can see the point in not threading mails that are not connected even 
if the subject is the same. But in this case with the mails from the 
web forum, I would appreciate if I could have an option to get them 
threaded by subject. Any chance to do that now or in the future, even 
if I had to do that manually for selected mails?


Cross posted to mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey and mozilla.dev.planning, 
feel free to set follow up to the appropriate group.


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