Re: [Sursound] SoundField: from Calrec to MBHO, what year?
Ah - I did wonder if it might be the support, but couldn't tell from the restricted view I could get through the grills On 27/09/2011 10:22, Richard Lee wrote: Daniel, Lynne wasn't the only girl assembling covering the capsules but she was the best. The capsules, though, do seem to have had a makeover, at least as far as I can see through the grill with the aid of my trusty LED keyring torch. The front edges of these are now bevelled, unlike those in the earlier versions, portable or otherwise - although they are still using the same illustration in the 450 manual as is in the 350 manual, which shows the earlier design. The bevelled edge is on the support spider which is common to the ST350 and much stronger than earlier ones. This was my most heinious sin on the Soundfield. I strengthened the spider while at Calrec but could have done more. Mea maxima culpa. The capsules are still the same except for Gold flashed diaphragms. __ Anyone prepared to measure the electrical response of their ST450? Any capsule (actually the LEMO connector) to W and then to either X Y or Z. I'm planning a file processor to improve B format recordings made with ST350s ST450s. Email me if you are game and I can provide details depending on what gear you've got. ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- These are my own views and may or may not be shared by my employer /*/ /* Dave Malham http://music.york.ac.uk/staff/research/dave-malham/ */ /* Music Research Centre */ /* Department of Musichttp://music.york.ac.uk/; */ /* The University of York Phone 01904 432448*/ /* Heslington Fax 01904 432450*/ /* York YO10 5DD */ /* UK 'Ambisonics - Component Imaging for Audio' */ /*http://www.york.ac.uk/inst/mustech/3d_audio/; */ /*/ ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] SoundField: from Calrec to MBHO, what year?
Le 11-09-26 04:33, Dave Malham a écrit : We've just bought an ST450 (...) The capsules, though, do seem to have had a makeover, at least as far as I can see through the grill with the aid of my trusty LED keyring torch. The front edges of these are now bevelled, unlike those in the earlier versions, portable or otherwise As Richard already stated, the bevelled caps were already present in the 350. There is two good hi-res pictures of an opened 350 at the bottom of this page http://harpex.net/presskit20110331/. - Daniel ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] SoundField: from Calrec to MBHO, what year?
Hi Daniel, I just had a quick look at the discussion on sounddesigners. We've just bought an ST450 based on reports from people we trust who have had pre-production units. I've not personally done anything serious with it yet as it's been marking season here, so I can't comment directly on it yet other than to say it seems very quiet and a seriously professional piece of kit, much better built than our existing ST250. I like the fact that whilst it still uses Lemo connectors on the mic lead as first seen on the ST350 (I think) they've got both the stereo and the B format outputs on XLR's, rather than having the B Format signals on another Lemo. Note that if you've only used the ST250, a welcome surprise is that (like the 350), stereo and B format are output on separate connectors. The capsules, though, do seem to have had a makeover, at least as far as I can see through the grill with the aid of my trusty LED keyring torch. The front edges of these are now bevelled, unlike those in the earlier versions, portable or otherwise - although they are still using the same illustration in the 450 manual as is in the 350 manual, which shows the earlier design. The only thing I miss is a test oscillator, which I, personally, think is an even more important facility on portable kit like this than it is on the studio units. Dave PS A little bit more historical stuff from the manual Early SoundField prototype models were developed using Gerzon’s theory in conjunction with the National Research Development Corporation of Great Britain and Calrec Audio. Chief Designer at Calrec, Ken Farrar, and colleagues played a leading role in turning Gerzon’s theory into a real product and Ken Farrar’s contribution was later recognised by his appointment as a Fellow of the Institution of Electrical Engineers (F.I.E.E.). In 1993, the company SoundField Ltd. was formed specifically to manufacture and further develop the range of products and their application in both stereo and multichannel audio environments On 25/09/2011 19:54, Daniel Courville wrote: Le 11-09-25 02:36, Richard Lee a écrit : Why do you ask, Daniel? Well, it's related to this discussion over at Sounddesigners.org http://www.sounddesigners.org/modules.php?op=modloadname=PNphpBB2file=vi ewtopicp=104025 about the SoundField. I was really convinced that the SoundField/MBHO partnership had been going on for a while longer and, rather than to put my foot even farther in my mouth, I thought I would do some fact checking over here. - Daniel ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- These are my own views and may or may not be shared by my employer /*/ /* Dave Malham http://music.york.ac.uk/staff/research/dave-malham/ */ /* Music Research Centre */ /* Department of Musichttp://music.york.ac.uk/; */ /* The University of York Phone 01904 432448*/ /* Heslington Fax 01904 432450*/ /* York YO10 5DD */ /* UK 'Ambisonics - Component Imaging for Audio' */ /*http://www.york.ac.uk/inst/mustech/3d_audio/; */ /*/ ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] SoundField: from Calrec to MBHO, what year?
Dave Malham dave.mal...@york.ac.uk wrote: ... PS A little bit more historical stuff from the manual Early SoundField prototype models were developed using Gerzon?s theory in conjunction with the National Research Development Corporation of Great Britain and Calrec Audio. Chief Designer at Calrec, Ken Farrar, and colleagues played a leading role in turning Gerzon?s theory into a real product and Ken Farrar?s contribution was later recognised by his appointment as a Fellow of the Institution of Electrical Engineers (F.I.E.E.). This is a minor point, but Ken Farrar would not have been granted the post nominals FIEE (now FIET) for *just* this contribution; visit: http://www.theiet.org/membership/types/fiet/fellow-criteria.cfm Regards, Martin, MIET -- Martin J Leese E-mail: martin.leese stanfordalumni.org Web: http://members.tripod.com/martin_leese/ ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] SoundField: from Calrec to MBHO, what year?
Le 11-09-25 02:36, Richard Lee a écrit : Why do you ask, Daniel? Well, it's related to this discussion over at Sounddesigners.org http://www.sounddesigners.org/modules.php?op=modloadname=PNphpBB2file=vi ewtopicp=104025 about the SoundField. I was really convinced that the SoundField/MBHO partnership had been going on for a while longer and, rather than to put my foot even farther in my mouth, I thought I would do some fact checking over here. - Daniel ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
[Sursound] SoundField: from Calrec to MBHO, what year?
From the Calrec web site http://www.calrec.com/uk/support/pages/technicalassistance.aspx, we learn that they stopped mic production in 1989. Does somebody know in what year SoundField caps production started at MBHO? Thanks, Daniel ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] SoundField: from Calrec to MBHO, what year?
Hi The web site of the current mic manufacturers (SoundFieldLtd) say on their web site:- Early SoundField prototype models were developed using Gerzon's theory in conjunction with the National Research Development Corporation of Great Britain and Calrec Audio. Chief Designer at Calrec, Ken Farrar, and colleagues played a leading role in turning Gerzon's theory into a real product and Ken Farrar's contribution was later recognised by his appointment as a Fellow of the Institution of Electrical Engineers (F.I.E.E.). In 1993, the company SoundField Ltd. was formed specifically to manufacture and further develop the range of products and their application in both stereo and multi-channel audio environments. SoundField Ltd. is the owner of all patent and intellectual property rights relating to SoundField Technology. http://www.soundfield.com/company/company.php Every Blessing Tony -Original Message- From: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel Courville Sent: 24 September 2011 13:49 To: Sursound Subject: [Sursound] SoundField: from Calrec to MBHO, what year? From the Calrec web site http://www.calrec.com/uk/support/pages/technicalassistance.aspx, we learn that they stopped mic production in 1989. Does somebody know in what year SoundField caps production started at MBHO? Thanks, Daniel ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] SoundField: from Calrec to MBHO, what year?
On 09/24/2011 02:48 PM, Daniel Courville wrote: Does somebody know in what year SoundField caps production started at MBHO? i wonder: it's clearly evident that the capsules on the sps200 are made by haun, but do they also manufacture the capsules for the other soundfields? -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] SoundField: from Calrec to MBHO, what year?
1989 was when Steve Jagger, Ken Farrar and some of the other original Calrec mob bought the company back from AMS. They left the Soundfield with AMS. AMS had problems making the mike consistently. When Soundfield Research took over, they dug Lynne out of retirement. She used to make the Soundfield capsules for me. Though no longer a Yorkshire virgin, she brought at least the capsule production back to its former, Calrec, standard. When she decided to retire for good, Soundfield Research transferred the production jigs to MBHO. This happened quite recently; 2006? MBHO do a decent job with the capsules but final assembly test is still done in Wakefield. MBHO capsules are the only ones with gold flashed mylar diaphragms. Apart from that, the capsule is exactly as I left it circa 1983 warts all. The SP200 uses a MBHO subcardioid capsule. Info via YorkshireLeaks .. Why do you ask, Daniel? ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
