[biofuel] Oil Imports
Can someone please tell me where I can find a breakdown of US oil imports by percentage? Thank you, Dave Lusher Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/i5gGAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: Invisibility Was: [biofuel] Re: How We Lost the Victory
Well...I think one of the big social changes that we are experiencing is this formum and what makes it possible...the Internet. Never before has the little guy had so much information from so many sources so available to him. And, the means to discuss it with anyone around the globe. It is a lot more difficult for someone to misrepresent things these days. People can get on the Internet and check sources, discuss with others, etc., from the smallest towns around the world. If someone wants to discuss and learn about biofuels, it might be difficult with a neighbor in Podunk, USA. But, I can sit in Saudi Arabia, and discuss things with Keith in Japan, Girl-Mark in California, Steve in New Jersey, Hakan in Sweden, and so on. That is amazingly powerful. I think it has started to, and will continue to, lead to incredible social change. Information is very powerful and will lead to democratization and other social benefits. 'Leaders' try to control people with lies, half-truths, propaganda, public relations campaigns, etc., but this should be more difficult if this medium is available. Look at the discussions we have had on this list recently about corporate PR and how they attempt to influence peoples thinking. Just our increased awareness from these discussions helps us realize and discount a lot of what we are being fed. Now, when someone discusses an event in the US Congress and its implications, such as a bill concerning oil drilling on the North Slope of Alaska, we can have people from Australia or India chiming in with their take of the event. If we want to influence voting in Congress by letting our Congressmen or Senators know what we think about something, we can have e-mail storms to get the word out to mobilize the electorate. Small groups should have less of an ability to slip things through, because the ability to get the word out to a tremendous number of people is increased by e- mail and the Internet. Alternative views were never this public before. It used to be that one depended on books, newspapapers, regular mail newsletters, word-of-mouth, telephoning, etc. By the time someone found out something and cared to act on it, months could go by. But now, to use an example of the NRA, they can find out about something concerning gun control taking place in the Senate, and all million plus of their members know about it within hours and they are on the telephone calling up their representatives. I don't want to sound too dramatic, but I truly can not think of any other single influence as important. It ranks with the industrial revolution and similar historical events on its importance. Derek Hargis > I would disagree. I believe the world is becoming LESS democratic. No > matter what any report says. > > Oh sure, votes are being taken ... laws enacted by counting those votes. > But now PR agencies kick in ... paid for by powerful, invisible "small" > groups of people ... who basically "sway" the votes ...one way or the other. > The details Keith explains it well (help me out here, Keith). > > So once again ... a small group of people (sway the votes and ) control the > laws being written. Laws that govern (spelled R.U.L.E.S.) all. Once again > ... UNDEMOCRATIC. > > So to me, the authoritarianism isn't really disappearing ... it's just going > underground. > > Curtis > > Get your free newsletter at > http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL > > > - Original Message - > From: Hakan Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Tom have to hurry up then -:), MH took the job to post this, > > HDR 2002 (Human Development Report) > The world is becoming more democratic. > Democratic regimes on the rise as authoritarianism declines. > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/i5gGAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Old Water Tank
>Keith >Do you think this would work inside a processing tank? >It sounds like it would make the tank last forever - I don't know about >the sodium methoxide however. Hi Martin Yes. When I first posted this info at our site we'd used the stuff, as it says, but not for processors. I checked it out because various people had written and said they were having problems with rust wrecking their processors. I wrote to POR-15 and specifically asked them about anything it might encounter in biodiesel processing, including lye, methanol, methoxide, sulphuric acid, and of course esters. They assured me it would withstand all this. We've since been using it on processing gear and it works exactly as promised. They say it's a permanent solution, and it does seem to be that., Best Keith >Keith Addison wrote: > > >>Sam, > >> > >>What type of use are you intending? Manufacture or storage? >Storage would be > >>no problem. Manufacture is a bit more problematic, as the caustic will > >>further exacerbate the rust issue, eventually rendering the tank useless. > >> > >>Todd Swearingen > >> > >> > > > >However, this stuff really works - not cheap, but could be worth it: > > > >Rustproofing, anti-corrosion > >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_supply.html#rust > > > >Best > > > >Keith > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- >--- >Martin Klingensmith >http://nnytech.net/ >http://infoarchive.net/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/i5gGAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] PLEASE READ THIS - moderator's message
Regarding this: "Re: Could we stop all this POLITICAL Crap??" I've previously posted a moderator's directive against calling for restrictions in the discussions. It's here: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?view=22972&list=BIOFUEL Some people have not taken any notice, though some of them have been warned both on- and off-list. So I'll say it again - it's all been said here before, not just by me, and recently. Discussion on this list is free and OPEN. Biofuels is a broad-ranging subect. It's an international list with members from many different cultures and more than a hundred countries, and their views of what is on- or off-topic vary widely. "Politics" is NOT off-topic - some recent views on this from list members: > > What on earth does this have to do with biofuels? > >A lot more than one might think off the cuff, especially when it comes to >who makes the decisions that let you run biofuel on a roadway or not. Another: >The problem you run into ... is that Biodiesel and Ethanol represent MUCH >MUCH more than transesterified WVO and C2H5OH. > >It represents FREEDOM. And THAT my friend, is a political statement. Like >it or not. > >Whether or not a country's a "democracy" .. or a "republic" .. or a >"socialistic country" .. may not be of interest to you now. Purhaps so. >But let me tell you .. it will ... sooner or later. When you try to brew >Ethanol .. and the ATF starts to give you a "weird ... unseen hassle" >"seemingly trying to shut you down".Or when you try to make biodiesel >... and you go "what da hell??" .. when you find out that "it's illegal" to >"transport non-edible vegetable oil". When it "seems" ... "as though" ... >" the oil companies don't want YOU .. yes YOU (personally) ... as one of >their competitions. And you start feeling like a "Netscape" who's up >against a "Microsoft". > >When you get past the casual experimentation .. and get into the actual >"production" and START DECLARING YOUR FREEDOM... don't worry ... the >politics of the whole biofuel deal WILL become apparent to you. And: >The problems are compounded by many years of fundamentally flawed >energy policy, and that's the reason why this discussion BELONGS on >a biofuels list. And: >Political discussion is VITAL to the future of biofuels. And: >For a copy of our anti-war/biodiesel alternatives factsheet, please see: >http://www.veggieavenger.com/news/news.shtml Etc etc etc - this is the majority view here. Those calling for restrictions are a tiny minority - small but loud; if we did it their way the majority would be deprived. Keeping the discussions open deprives nobody and prevents nothing - directly on-topic biofuels discussions continue unhindered all the while. If people have problems with clogged email inboxes, they should learn how to use filters - essential to using any email lists, not just this one. For more info see: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?view=21700&list=BIOFUEL Some posts are definitely off-topic by any measure, but those posting them know it and seldom stray too far. List members are mature people and do not need nannying by topic-cops. Anyway, such digressions quite often lead to discussion that's very much on-topic and would not otherwise have arisen. So: NO TOPIC-COPS. NO CALLS FOR RESTRICTED DISCUSSION. Finally, re the two links at the bottom of every message you receive, these: >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Biofuels list archives: >http://archive.nnytech.net/ The first is a premier source of small-scale biofuels information on the Web. The second is a treasure house of information on all aspects of biofuels, especially biodiesel - it contains 23,000 messages over the last three years, many of them from leaders in the field worldwide. It is an independent archives, not Yahoo's, provided and maintained by list member Martin Klingensmith, with powerful, fast and efficient searching, and no ads. If you have biofuels questions, go ahead and ask, if there's something you want to discuss, nothing's stopping you, if you have information to offer please do so. Best wishes Keith Addison List owner Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/i5gGAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Oil Imports
Hi Dave, You have it in the BP reports, http://www.bp.com/centres/energy2002/index.asp and http://www.bp.com/downloads/1087/statistical_review.pdf Sorry that I do not have time to find the exact place now, but you have some breakdown of oil movements in the report. Hakan At 01:35 AM 4/21/2003 +, you wrote: >Can someone please tell me where I can find a breakdown of US oil >imports by percentage? > >Thank you, > >Dave Lusher > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/i5gGAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Bringing democracy to Sweden
MH, Yes, but it was a question more meant to get Steve to understand what a democracy is. That all of the below are parliamentary democracies with different kind of system. Monarchy or Republic, does not necessary exclude that the country or federation is "ruled by the people". How good the different systems are, is an other issue. At the end, it all boils down to distribution of power and vulnerability to manipulation. In an increasingly complicated world, the right decisions also becomes more difficult to make. Hakan At 08:34 PM 4/20/2003 -0500, you wrote: > Hi Hakan, > Is this what you meant? > > > What is UK then? > constitutional monarchy.* > The country is a parliamentary democratic monarchy.** > > What is Canada then? > confederation with parliamentary democracy.* > The country is a federal parliamentary democratic state with the > British queen as monarch.** > > What is Australia then? > democratic, federal-state system recognizing the British monarch as > sovereign.* > The country is a federal parliamentary democratic state with the > British queen as monarch.** > > What is Spain then? > parliamentary monarchy.* > The country is a federal parliamentary democratic monarchy.** > > What is Sweden then? > constitutional monarchy.* > The country is a parliamentary democratic monarchy.** > > What is France then? > republic.* > The country is a semi-presidential democrayic republic.** > > What is Germany then? > federal republic.* > The country is a federal parliamentary democratic republic.** > > What is Switzerland then? > federal republic.* > The country is a federal parliamentary democratic republic.** > And the USA? > federal republic; strong democratic tradition.* > The United States are a federal presidential democratic republic.** > > * http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/fields/2128.html > ** http://www.electionworld.org/election/parties.htm > > > > I am very interested in your definitions of above countries. > > > > Hakan > > > > >A democracy is mob rule. A republic is democracy with a constitution that > > >specifies what limits the mob has. our 3 way system of government is > set up > > >with checks and balances that prevent any one group from over ruling the > > >rights of others. It's quite simple in a complex way. It works for us. > > > > > > > > >Steve Spence Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/i5gGAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Stats
Does anyone have an idea about the amount of vegetable oil used by KFC, McDonalds, etc ? - Do they trow it away ? - Can we ask them for it ? And what is the Methanol cost in europe ? Thank's EA Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/i5gGAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] toyota petition
Sam Clarkson wrote: > Okay, > I didn't mean to offend anyone- > so there are vw defenders out there, please, don't take it as an assault, > perhaps VW makes the best car in the world- > perhaps the U.S. market would NOT be enhanced by more options > I'm going to put a deposit on a jetta wagon next week, bc vw is the > only option in the u.s, and this is the last year we can buy them in CA Yet another good reason to _not_ live in California, IMHO. > Is this right? > is this competition? No, and no, respectively. > would it hurt to call toyota even if you love your VW more than life? > > if you don't feel like calling, here's an easy online petition by a > toyota 4x4 club. > http://www.petitiononline.com/ifs/ The thrust of this line seems to be getting Toyota to keep solid axles and gear driven transfer cases. The diesel stuff seems to be an afterthought. My comment on that issue is that one should not assume solid axles are any particularly more reliable than independent suspension. Same for gear driven transfer cases. > U.S. diesel options=more bio rigs on the market=less fossil fuel > consumption=less war=fewer dead people. And whether the powers that be like it or not, if people really want diesel vehicles they will have them, one way or another. > if you feel like it, call toyota's comment line: > I am not a toyota salesman, though I would probably make more money if I > were > toyota's comment # is > 1800 331 4331 > ask them for U.S. Diesel options > it is easy It's a good idea. Toyota builds good diesels, and I'd like to see them in the US again. If enough consumers request it then perhaps it'll happen. It's a matter of demand and money, because before Toyota can bring a diesel model into the US again they're going to have to clear it with DOT and EPA. AP Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/i5gGAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Make it comfortable for real people
I am re-posting as below, the call for comments on, Make it comfortable for real People http://energy.saving.nu/comfort/ I for one understand the upheaval that the current world events have on a humanitarian list like this one. I would however appreciate comments on the above link and you can also send them to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hakan At 02:37 AM 4/20/2003 +0200, you wrote: >Hi all, > >I am working on "Thermal Building Codes for developing countries" >and in the process revamping some pages on our site. If anyone >is interested and want to give comments, here is a link to > >Make it comfortable for real People >http://energy.saving.nu/comfort/ > >It does have relevance to biofuels, since some energy efficiency >make it so much easier to move to alternative energy sources. > >Hakan Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/i5gGAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Positions in biodiesel sales
Dear Karus, We have tried to get through to the Californians with, http://california.energy.saving.nu/ Maybe it will be of some interest for you. The official advices on energy saving are still to lower/rise temperatures and to shut down HVAC in offices during non office hours. This way they ensure the occurrence of high peak demands in predictable time periods. Hakan At 03:23 PM 4/19/2003 -0700, you wrote: >I have some comments regarding my fellow citizen's comments from Dallas, >Texas, but first I'd like to say that this list is fantastic and very >useful. > >I'm a grad student in California trying to move into renewable energy >production. As a research scientist I KNOW that the technologies are >totally feasible - biodiesel, ethanol, photovoltaics, wind - and I also >know that California gets 25% of its oil from Iraq (pre-war). So it is >(unfortunately) a political issue - if it wasn't, California would have >switched to renewables entirely about 25 years ago - no fossil fuels >whatsoever. So I completely appreciate the 'political' posts as well as >the technical ones, and I'm sure as hell not going to give up my >citizenship and leave the state! Some of my fellow citizens apparently >don't understand the fact that the only reason we have any rights in the >US is because people fought for them for hundreds of years. Leave the >country? I think not. > >In any case, what we are going to do in California is do what should have >been done 25 years ago- completely switch to renewable energy sources. >There are about a thousand entrenched obstacles, but we really have no >other choice. There are thousands of people in California that are >behind this approach, from all levels of society. We are going to build >ethanol and biodiesel processing plants, using local agriculture, we are >going to build and manufacture solar arrays and wind turbines, and anyone >with the necessary skills can participate. Everyone I talk to has had >enough of the energy barons and the ripoffs - see Greg Palast's chapter on >"California Reamin'" in his new book for the details. We want no part of >the Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld-Ashcroft junta and their dreams of world >conquest. What do they worry about most? Losing control of the energy >supply - which is what renewable, dispersed energy means to them, which is >why the first thing they did was to slash the renewable research budget. > >Yes, the propaganda is piled on thick here - see www.dieoff.org for a >cleverly disguised example. The theme of this site is that we (in the US) >are going to die a horrible death of energy starvation unless we grab the >world's oilsince only an idiot would trust solar energy and >biofuels to 'do the job'This is high-brow propaganda - for more >examples, see www.luntzspeak.com, and then try doing a Google search for >'luntzspeak'- is that a first? Is that really censorship on Google? I >hope its just technical. > >GW BUSH Luntzspeak: >"I'm proposing 1.2 billion in research funding so that America can lead >the world in developing clean, hydrogen-powered automobiles...The first >car driven by a child born today could be powered by hydrogen, and >pollution-free." > >GW BUSH English translation: "The Big 3 automakers have fought for decades >against fuel efficiency. But, its the State of the Union, and I need a >way to look green. By 'proposing' research funding, I can put off any >real emissions reductions for years." > >http://www.luntzspeak.com/decoder.html > >Anyhow, this list is great. Best wishes, Karus Solem Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/i5gGAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: Stats
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Eliseu Angelo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone have an idea about the amount of vegetable oil used by > KFC, McDonalds, etc ? - Do they trow it away ? - Can we ask them for > it ? > In the US I think there's a 50-gallon or more (75 gallon?) container standard for waste oil behind KFC and McD. Sometimes its bigger. They put out a lot of contaminated and disgusting oil. They'll give it to you, and sometimes you can just walk back to the container and take it without asking too. I wouldn't make biodiesel out of McDonalds oil.l When you go back there and look you'll understand why- it's NASTYY fast food restaurant oil is generally poor quality. Several KFC's I've looked at had better oil than other fast food places for some reason. KFC's oil IS hydrogenated- somewhat solid- and it is probably pretty full of chicken fat. mark > And what is the Methanol cost in europe ? > > > Thank's > > EA Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/i5gGAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: Oil Imports
http://www.energy.gov/dataandprices/sub/supply_consumption.html the data is a few clicks down, under imports-exports petr. but the whole page has some good links > >Can someone please tell me where I can find a breakdown of US oil > >imports by percentage? > > > >Thank you, > > > >Dave Lusher > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/i5gGAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] more biodiesel versus gas emissions comparison info
Hi all, there's an interesting thread on biodieselnow.com's forums (didn't know there was this forum, huh?) about comparisons of emissions. It's a long read and it's a lot of good links, as well as lots of subjective opinions of course. They were trying to answer questions about 'what pollutes more, a Prius hybrid or a new tdi running B100?' mark here it is: http://forums.biodieselnow.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=463 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/i5gGAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] New concepts about mass and energy, light, ether waves etc.
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[biofuel] fwd: PROPOSED (Calif.) SOLAR "DEPARTING LOAD FEES" DEFEATED
A VICTORY FOR US ALL!! * DEPARTING LOAD FEES DEFEATED Last Friday the California Public Utilities Commission voted 3-2 to defeat the solar exit fees and support President Peevey's proposal to exempt all renewable energy from these fees as well as 3000 megawatts of distributed generation capacity. This is a tremendous victory which clears the way for the continued rapid growth of renewable energy in California and beyond. Thank you to those of you who responded by emailing your views to the PUC. The 7,000 emails sent in to the PUC on behalf of protecting renewable energy were critical to this success. Special thanks to Greenpeace, Environment California, Powershift, CC Energy, Next Generation, California Solar Center, Solar Buzz, the Solar Energy Industry Association, PV Now, Moveon.org, several California municipalities, and others in this effort. With policy makers, we should work just as hard to reward good decisions as to discourage bad ones. Please take a moment to email the Commissioners and thank them for encouraging the growth of solar energy by exempting solar from exit fees. Emails may be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/i5gGAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] more biodiesel versus gas emissions comparison info
Hi all, there's an interesting thread on biodieselnow.com's forums (didn't know there was this forum, huh?) about comparisons of emissions. It's a long read and it's a lot of good links, as well as lots of subjective opinions of course. They were trying to answer questions about 'what pollutes more, a Prius hybrid or a new tdi running B100?' mark here it is: http://forums.biodieselnow.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=463 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/i5gGAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
