Re: [Biofuel] Tiny Inhaled Particles Take Easy Route From Nose To Brain
Hello All,It seems some attention to nano sized particles has been raised recently. The Organic Consumers Association recently sent out this brief article with an "action alert" to send to the FDA. Definately worth taking a look at; it is also a great web site.-Chris Davidsonhttp://www.democracyinaction.org/dia/organizationsORG/oca/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=5232ALERT:TINY TOXINS--NANO, NANO EVERYWHERE Despite a lack of federal oversight and no requirements forlabeling, nanoparticles have been placed into countless consumerproducts, including food, food packaging, nutritional supplements,and body care products. Nanoproducts contain extremely smallparticles, roughly one-billionth of a meter in size. Laboratorystudies already warn that nanoparticles can cause inflammation,damage brain cells, and cause pre-cancerous lesions. The Foodand Drug Administration has scheduled its first-ever PublicMeeting on October 10, 2006 to address the emergence of nanotechnology.Learn more about nanotechnology and contact the FDA to callfor a moratorium on untested and unlabeled nanoproducts untiladequate testing and federal oversight is in place: http://www.democracyinaction.org/dia/organizationsORG/oca/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=5232___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] 2005 Chevy Diesel 6.6 liter duramax
Thanks for the replies, it has been a big help. Cheers-Chris Davidson___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] 2005 Chevy Diesel 6.6 liter duramax
Hello All,I was talking to a friend that just bought a 2005 Chevy Duramax 2500 6.6 liter turbo Diesel. He was wondering if using biodiesel with that year-model would be okay. He mentioned that the 2007 models have some sort of warning stating that biodiesel should not be used. Any knowledge or personal experience using biodiesel with these model trucks would be greatly appreciated. Thanks,Chris Davidson___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Magnetic Bacteria Discovery in Energy Made By Student
hello all, this is an interesting read...http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,70882-0.html?tw=rss.index___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water
it seems sea water (or possibly even grey water) could possibly leave behind evaporite deposits.i don't know how these systems work though, or whether the water is actually evaporated, but i had assumed that clean water would be needed. salt water could be theway to go...?-chris Message: 2Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 22:48:12 +From: "Terry Dyck" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on waterTo: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgMessage-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowedIf you can use grey water or salt water there would not be a problem. If the water used has to be clean drinkable water there is a problem.Terry DyckFrom: chris davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgTo: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSubject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on waterDate: Thu, 11 May 2006 09:14:57 -0700 (PDT)Another issue concerning the Car Powered by Water: Even if the invention works as he claims it does, i don't think water is the answer for a fuel source for cars. Yeah, it has basically no pollution and all, but what would happen to the water supply when everbody and their mom wants to "fill up"? I think most of us know what a valuable resource water is, and the pressing concerns for its availability in the coming years. Irrigation for crops and feed crops already consumes approx 85%-90% of the industrial water usage of the water supply (40% of that comes from groundwater tables) -and a lot of that is lost to evaporation/transpiration. Just a thought... -Chris ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water
Another issue concerning the Car Powered by Water: Even if the invention works as he claims it does, i don't think water is the answer for a fuel source for cars. Yeah, it has basically no pollution and all, but what would happen to the water supply when everbody and their mom wants to "fill up"? I think most of us know what a valuable resource water is, and the pressing concerns for its availability in the coming years. Irrigation for crops and feed crops already consumes approx 85%-90% of the industrial water usage of the water supply (40% of that comes from groundwater tables) -and a lot of that is lost to evaporation/transpiration. Just a thought... -Chris ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: I'm the Decider
I liked poem and thought you all may enjoy this. A good parody of the Beatles. Turn on your speakers!http://decider.cf.huffingtonpost.com/___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Catalytic Converter For Biodiesel
Hello All,Is it possible to use a catalytic converter when using B100? I seem to remember reading sometime, somewhere, that it is possible to reduce the NOx emmisions by doing this. I drive a 1981 MBZ 300SD and only use BD, and plan to install a SVO kit soon. Has anyone tried this? and any preferences on the type of converter to install? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.Chris Davidson ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] California Passes Long-Term Solar Energy Plan
http://www.renewableenergyaccess.com/rea/news/story?id=41631January 12, 2006 San Francisco, California [RenewableEnergyAccess.com] On Thursday, California regulators approved the California Solar Initiative (CSI), the largest solar energy policy ever enacted in the U.S. and second only to Germany in terms of global solar policy.The California Public Utilities Commission passed the California Solar Initiative (CSI) by a vote of 3 to 1 with Commissioner Geoffrey Brown voting against it. Commissioner John Bohn recused himself, citing a conflict of interest with his investments in Chevron and General Motors. The plan is both historic and monumental for the solar industry in the U.S. and beyond. It allots USD $3.2 billion for solar energy rebates in the state for the next 11 years, providing for the installation of approximately 3000 MW of solar energy, roughly the power equivalent of six large natural-gas fired power plants. This moment also ends what has been a roller-coaster ride for solar advocates in California and beyond who have been waiting for the state to breathe new life into support for solar. The CSI plan effectively supplants two of the critical features that were present in the ill-fated "Million Solar Roofs Initiative" or SB 1, which faltered twice in the California legislature. It provides the long term rebate plan and the funds to back it up. The CPUC will provide $2.8 billion in customer incentives for solar projects on existing residential buildings, as well as all public buildings, industrial facilities, businesses, and agricultural facilities. The California Energy Commission, meanwhile, will provide $400 million in incentives for new homes, specifically targeting collaborations with the builder / developer community. Solar industry executives are already considering the possibilities for expansion (see related story at the jump below).The CSI plan does not include a mandate that new homes in California include solar energy, nor does it include any licensing changes to who is eligible to install solar projects in the state. It also does not require that solar installation work be done as so-called "prevailing wages," essentially union wages. All three items exposed and exacerbated deep opposition between the majority of the solar industry and certain union interests that backed some of the proposals.Despite some of this tension, public support for the plan was repeatedly mentioned as a critical factor in bringing this plan to the CPUC. Over the last three months, 50,000 people have written to the California Public Utilities Commissioners to ask them to pass a long-term solar rebate program - more public comment than the CPUC has received on any issue they have ever considered, including the 2001 energy crisis. Rebates beginning this year will stay at the $2.80 per watt mark and will gradually decline for the following ten years. By design, the rebates will decline by 10 percent per year through the duration of the program. The money will come from existing funds already earmarked for solar power and a very small additional surcharge on monthly electric bills over eleven years. The PUC rebates may also move from a capacity-based approach to a performance-based approach or some variation of the two. Details will be finalized over the coming months through stakeholder workshops. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Development Yields Antifreeze from Biodiesel
Development Yields Antifreeze from Biodiesel From: http://www.renewableenergyaccess.com/ Columbia, Missouri [RenewableEnergyAccess.com] - 2005-08-18 - In addition to topping off your gas tank with biodiesel, a new advance could let you fill your vehicle's cooling system with a biomass-derived antifreeze. A new process developed at the University of Missouri-Columbia (MU) creates a valuable secondary product from the biodiesel manufacturing process that makes the production cycle both profitable and affordable. Galen Suppes, chief science officer of the MU-based Renewable Alternatives, developed a process for converting glycerin, a byproduct of the biodiesel production process, into propylene glycol, which can be used as nontoxic antifreeze for automobiles. Suppes said the new propylene glycol product will meet every performance standard, is made from domestic soybeans and is nontoxic. Suppes said this technology can reduce the cost of biodiesel production by as much as $0.40 per gallon of biodiesel. The market for propylene glycol already is established, with a billion pounds produced a year. The price of propylene glycol is quite high while glycerin's price is low, so based on the low cost of feed stock and high value of propylene glycol, the process appears to be most profitable, Suppes said. The consumers want antifreeze that is both renewable and made from biomass rather than petroleum from which propylene glycol currently is produced. The creation of a valuable secondary product could help mainstream the use of biodiesel. In 2004, biodiesel producers sold 30 million gallons of fuel, up from 500,000 gallons in 1999. It's still, however, a relatively niche fuel. At best, right now biodiesel production is only part of the solution, Suppes said. Current biodiesel production in the United States is about 0.03 billion gallons per year as compared to distillate fuel oil consumption of 57 billion gallons per year. Renewable Alternatives is currently licensing this technology to three biodiesel plants. The National Science Foundation and Missouri Soybean Farmers are helping to fund the research. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] SVO Kits
Hello all, After a few years of dreaming, I am about to finally buy a Mercedes to convert to SVO! In the last year or more, I have learned so much from this biofuels list, it's a great resource, and I would be grateful to get some opinions on what the best SVO kit is to use. This kit will be on a 1979 - 1985 MBZ 300 series TD. I will have $700 - $1000 to spend on the kit, and most likely will install it myself. I like the idea of a One Tank System. Any preferences on 1 or 2 tank systems? Which 1 tank systems are better? Thanks for the help. -Chris Davidson ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] RE: Biofuel College Courses
The Oregon Institute of Technology looks like it has a good curriculum for renewable energy: Full curriculum details on this link: http://www.oit.edu/orec/13 Full curriculum details on this link Degrees Offered Bachelor of Science in Renewable Energy Systems Renewable energy is an exciting new field involving the use of solar thermal, photovoltaic, ground-source heat pumps, geothermal, hydroelectric, wind, bio-mass and fuel cells in energy generation applications. Applications includes: home and business space heating, lighting, powering appliances, manufacturing, and electrical powered transportation. The degree is designed to meet present and future needs for renewable energy professionals, with the knowledge and skills to develop, promote and implement new sustainable energy technologies, and improve the efficiency of existing systems. Program graduates will be prepared to successfully integrate skills in the social, environmental, economic, technical and scientific aspects of sustainable energy generation. The Renewable Energy Systems degree is built on a solid foundation in physics, chemistry, mathematics, and communications. Added to this foundation are courses in mechanical and electrical engineering principles. The mechanical and electrical course work lead to renewable energy specific courses in energy systems, heat pump systems, photovoltaics, energy management and auditing, wind and bio-mass, renewable energy transportation systems, zero net energy buildings, and fuel-cells. The program is delivered in Portland. General education courses are provided by Clackamas Community College or other area institutions. RES specific courses are delivered at a number of sites including: OIT Metro Center, Clackamas Community College main campus, and the Wilsonville Technology Center. Upper division renewable energy courses build on previously developed theoretical, laboratory and design practice skills to enhance student preparation. For example, senior year courses in energy systems design, energy systems management and auditing, and energy systems instrumentation, in addition to the senior project sequence, brings system design and analysis into focus, drawing on material developed in previous courses. Career Opportunities Program graduates would enter the energy field as field engineers, energy auditors, renewable energy system integrators for homes and businesses, manufacturing engineers for component and subsystem manufacturers, designers for components and subsystems, local and state government renewable energy inspectors and planners. Graduates of the program will be able to fulfill a wide range of career opportunities, not only within the emerging field of renewable energy, but within more traditional areas of instrumentation and control. Career fields may include: * Renewable energy system design and planning; * Energy policy analysis and development; * Energy economics; * Energy management and efficiency consulting; * Greenhouse gas accounting and reduction; * Assessing the social and environmental impacts of energy systems; * Renewable energy research and development. Graduate career placement in: * Power utilities; * Renewable energy manufacturing and installation companies; * International aid organizations; * Government agencies; * Energy efficiency and environmental consulting companies; * University and industry research organizations. Objectives The objectives of the Renewable Energy Systems program are: * to be industry entry-level employable at graduation; * to be sufficiently grounded in discipline skills to be promotable (vertical mobility); * to be prepared with a broad general education permitting career mobility (horizontal mobility). Student Preparation High school students should be prepared to start their college academic work with at least college algebra and Freshman English composition. Typically this means that the successful admit to the program has completed: * Four years of high school mathematics including algebra I and II, geometry and trigonometry. * Four years of English composition/writing. * Four years of science to include physics and chemistry. Students entering the program by transfer are requested to contact the program director for evaluation of RES related transfer courses. Accreditation Northwest Association of Schools and Colleges Degree Requirements The BS in Renewable Energy Systems is a rigorous curriculum that takes 195 credit hours and approximately four years to complete. See the general education requirements for a bachelors degree listed in the Academic Policies section of the catalog. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel
[Biofuel] RE : Methane Hydrate
http://www.netl.doe.gov/scngo/Natural%20Gas/hydrates/index.html Interesting reading...don't know too much about the subject...but possible fuel source according to some. Survey estimates that methane hydrate may contain more organic carbon than all the world's coal, oil, and non-hydrate natural gas combined.The magnitude of this previously unknown global storehouse of methane is truly staggering and has raised serious inquiry into the possibility of using methane hydrate as a source of energy. I also don't know too much about this subject,but in Richard Heinberg's book 'Power Down',he states a few things about it.Taking his point of view,would be mostly pessamistic,but it seems as though he thinks there are a lot of technical diffuculties in acquiring it, and possible catastrophic consequences in doing so. Technical difficulties are that you have to mine it from the ocean floor...and when doing this,it could disrupt sea floor stability, causing huge under-water landslides that could possibly create tsunamis, and release the frozen methane into the ocean,which makes it way up to the surface and into the atmosphere. Methane is over twenty times as effective as carbon dioxide in trapping the sun's energy on earth(a really good working greenhouse gas).Something jaw-dropping that was also in his book stated that there is sometimes methane hydrate trapped in permantly frozen soil on land,like Siberia and Alaska...and 'Russian engineers have actually suggested pumping nuclear waste under the Siberian permafrost to thaw the hydrate fields there so they can be exploited.'What???!!! ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Vacuum solar tubes
Kirk, Alright, I think I will go ahead and try to find a used vacuum pump from somewhere,it seems to be worth it.Would a 4 cfm 2 stage be sufficient?I guess a hard vacuum seems to be the best way to go about making solar tubes out of glass.That's really interesting that you used a very reduced flame(little or no oxygen)to coat the surface of the collector black-that's smart;was it in a vacuum?.I wonder if this would work in my situation,instead of vapourizing some sort of metal onto the glass,which seems to be one the most common methods.The whole thing (glass tube/s) being above 1000*F while the vacuum is created,some sort of non flammable coating needs to be applied.The only thing I could foresee happening with burnt fuel deposits,is some sort of water or other vapour being released and trapped inside.Again, right now I am experimenting, but the possible goal in this is to get into the market somewhere,and make it more affordable for people. I wonder if a model with a weak vacuum(or no vacuum)would be applicable enough to be sold as a more affordable model...? Or this weaker vacuum model could be used for the heating of the ingredients in biodiesel...?Anyhow, I appreciate yours, and everybody elses thoughts that have been shared on this subject.Thanks---Chris Davidson http://us.f214.mail.yahoo.com/ym/[EMAIL PROTECTED]YY=89160order=downsort=datepos=0view=ahead=b Message: 5 Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 15:52:37 -0800 (PST) From: Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Vacuum Solar Tubes To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii It is surprising how well a soft vacuum conducts. If you are going to the trouble and expense of pyrex and vacuum seals use a fairly hard vaccum. You will need a 2 stage pump such as refrigeration mechanics use. P and S Parts Corporation - 1.7 miles E - 15700 South Broadway St, Gardena, 90248 - (310) 217- P S Appliance Refrigeration Parts Supplies - 6.1 miles N - 6909 South Western Ave, Los Angeles, 90047 - (323) 753-1208 I bought one from PS years ago. They had the best prices back then. I did a search and found 2 of them. They may be related, don't know. A caveat re vacuum collectors. Many people use copper and oxidise it black as their receiver. No problem unless your pump fails and the collector stagnates. At high temps in a vacuum many materials outgass and many things can happen. The tube could get coated or in the case of copper oxide the oxygen leaves and you have a receiver that is not black. I built a flat plate vacuum collector. It made steam no problem. I used copper sheet and painted it black with an acetylene torch with the oxygen turned off. Kirk ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Vacuum Solar Tubes
Hello all, I have been trying to figure out how to make/assemble some evacuated vacuum solar tubes,and was hoping to find a few answers.I work with pyrex and do some scientific glassblowing. I know that using a vacuum pump is the way to evacuate the space between the two tubes,but am trying to get around using the vacuum set-up mainly for financial reasons-and I am just experimenting right now.My main question that I hope someone can help me with is : Can a relatively low pressure vacuum be used, and work well overall for thermal insulation? I assume it would be better than having no vacuum. First, I hope this description is not too confusing! --The type of vacuum would be achieved by heating the two glass tubes (they have been put together,with a small hole left that would normally be used to evacuate the tube; to keep the pressure equalized) up to around 1000*F, and then closing the small hole that would seal in the vacuum between the two tubes, while hot. I have noticed when doing things similar to this,the sealing up of this hole will get sucked in if the glass temperature is dropping; hence there is some sort of vacuum that is created, from the space being very hot when sealed. I am curious how relevant this vacuum would be for thermal insulation. By the way, Peter G. and Phillip Wolfe, thank you for responding to my inquiries about a month ago on green jobs in RE,so far they have been a guiding light for me. :-) Thanks for any insight or links to help me figure out this vacuum question,and I hope it wasn't confusing the way that I explained it. -Chris Davidson ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Re: education for green jobs
Phillip and Peter, I thank both of you for responding and giving me some insight.First off-Phillip,I admire your work in conservation and was wondering,did the certain degrees that you worked for in school come to you mainly in pursuit of a job like you had with some of those energy companies?,or more from interest,and thats what you ended up doing? And what are you involved in as the way of solar nowadays here in NorCal? Secondly,Peter-The evacuated tube does sound relatively simple.I am not familiar with what they do,or where they fit into a solar-system.Is it passive? If you could send a link,or give an explaination to the specifics, I will do a bit of research, and it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again : ) Chris Davidson ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] education for green jobs
Hello to all- I have been receiving and reading the biofuel digest for a couple of months now,and have really begun to value the wealth of information that is connected to it.I could condsider myself a 'newbie' in the field of renewables (1-2 years of growing interest), and could be classified as part of the 'interested public'. I am now seeking some information on possible paths of education for a career in some sort of renewables.As of now I don't have much more than a high school diploma,but have a lot of mechanical apptitude.I live in northern California,and I think that Solar is an interesting field,and it has been growing considerably in the last few years.What I am wondering,is if anyone has some good suggestions on where to start.Should I just try to get in at a lower level, i.e. installations; or first get some technical experience in say, electrical work.This would be while I am carrying on with my current work-which unfortunately consumes fossil fuels (natural gas -I am a scientific glassblower). Or should I just go for the gusto, and get a full college education, in some broader field of work - that would enable me to be somewhere in renewables.Please help, it is harder than you think being hypocritical in my line of work and in thinking. Thanks- Chris ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] bachelor's program in renewable energy systems
hi-this is my first posting ever,and i thought this link would be a good start...wish i was in portland... http://www.renewableenergyaccess.com/rea/news/story?id=19235 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
