Re: [Biofuel] George Galloway _ Lebanon. View it while you can
It appears Bush has at least 3 motives for war. 1. OIL 2. support of radical right "Christianity" and their "end time" views thus their support of war. 3. Support of his allie Israel which wants his support for their expansionism. His father when director of CIA furthered this by CIA bankrolling Murdochso he could purchase all the media which we see is now pro Israel. News reporting is not what they do. CONsensus forming is what they do. Basically it seems oil ambitions have joined expansionist ambitions.Perhaps they are not so separate.Theremay be another factor as well in the alliance. see http://www.puritans.net/news/royalty022703.htm Both George Bush and Barbara Pierce Bush (of Merrill, Lynch, Pierce, Fenner and Smith) are descended from the same Pierce family of England as President Franklin Pierce. Originally known as the enormously powerful Percy family of England, a name change to Pierce was required along with a quick immigration to America, when their involvement in the failed Gun Powder Plot to blow up Parliament became known. One of the Percy castles, where this plot was hatched was known as Sion House. Other notable Bush relatives include the Grosvenor families of England and America, and the Taft family of Ohio. The Grosvenors of England are the Dukes of Westminster who own the most substantial properties in the City of London --- the banker's capital. Of over 100,000 acres of Grosvenor property, most is in the financial district of London! In America, the Grosvenors founded Nation Geographic. National Geographic is known for sweeping down on the archeological treasures of the world, especially those of a religious significance, and spiriting them away to the Smithsonian Institute, controlled by their cousins the Smithsons, also descended from the Percys. Imposing false interpretations on religious finds is very important to the House of Sion. -- Exercise caution when researching on the Internet as there is lots of misinformation but you can sometimes get leads from sites if nothing else. Takes some sifting but the stories are often colorful. Most of the pillars of society are scoundrels and worse. History books -- old history books to be more accurate - are interesting sources. Most modern ones are sanitized.KirkPS Harriman is also in the Bush family tree. I think that is the Harriman of Brown bros and Harriman -bankersMike Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The caption under his picture reads "Former President Jimmy Carter says that Bush has encouraged Israel and Hezbollah to attack."Absolutely.1.) Fabricated provocation of war by Hezbollah through selective recollection of the events.2.) Reports of Iranian fighters killed in Lebanon3.) Intense media coverage by FOX to raise sympathy for Israel's government4.) Increased media coverage by FOX of Iranian saber rattling by it's leadership.5.) Continued media coverage by FOX of suspicious activities in Syria.So, what do you think of a U.S. state department campaign for a war against Iran, starting with a proxy war against Lebanon, then Syria? In my opinion, Bush is capable of anything and although I hesitated to speculate, I also don't put it past him or some of the religious zealots running the federal government to execute such a radical plan. Mikefox mulder wrote: his over all view is that he is sickened by thepictures he sees, on sky news every hour, of burned and maimed babies and children. the double standard of the countries like UK and USA is apparent. Please listen to the former president Carter who is an intellectual not lunatic like Bush. Source: cnn http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/08/05/carter.mideast.ap/. Open multiple messages at once with the all new Yahoo! Mail Beta. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] George Galloway _ Lebanon. View it while you can
Throughout my life, growing up, initially ignoring the news like most children, then paying more attention and then eventually learning of media control and being disgusted and so again ignoring, and then returning and watching it as a propaganda source and as an indicator of where control is being exercised has been a gradual process of unfolding for me. But there through it all has been a voice I have often heard. One of the quieter voices that sometimes gets a chance at the microphone but generally not, is the voice that keeps saying there are those who promote war. War is needed. War is what sustains some element of the warped western society. That voice is ringing in my head now and I wonder where the next conflict will spring up. It is true. I guess the situation in Iraq has turned into one where the US is spending more than it wants to and using too many of it's own weapons because it has to. It only makes sense that a conflict needs to happen elsewhere where weapons need to be used up which are bought and paid for and replaced with new ones which are bought and paid for. Where will the next cash cow be? Can anyone guess? Joe Kirk McLoren wrote: It appears Bush has at least 3 motives for war. 1. OIL 2. support of radical right "Christianity" and their "end time" views thus their support of war. 3. Support of his allie Israel which wants his support for their expansionism. His father when director of CIA furthered this by CIA bankrolling Murdochso he could purchase all the media which we see is now pro Israel. News reporting is not what they do. CONsensus forming is what they do. Basically it seems oil ambitions have joined expansionist ambitions.Perhaps they are not so separate. Theremay be another factor as well in the alliance. see http://www.puritans.net/news/royalty022703.htm Both George Bush and Barbara Pierce Bush (of Merrill, Lynch, Pierce, Fenner and Smith) are descended from the same Pierce family of England as President Franklin Pierce. Originally known as the enormously powerful Percy family of England, a name change to Pierce was required along with a quick immigration to America, when their involvement in the failed Gun Powder Plot to blow up Parliament became known. One of the Percy castles, where this plot was hatched was known as Sion House. Other notable Bush relatives include the Grosvenor families of England and America, and the Taft family of Ohio. The Grosvenors of England are the Dukes of Westminster who own the most substantial properties in the City of London --- the banker's capital. Of over 100,000 acres of Grosvenor property, most is in the financial district of London! In America, the Grosvenors founded Nation Geographic. National Geographic is known for sweeping down on the archeological treasures of the world, especially those of a religious significance, and spiriting them away to the Smithsonian Institute, controlled by their cousins the Smithsons, also descended from the Percys. Imposing false interpretations on religious finds is very important to the House of Sion. -- Exercise caution when researching on the Internet as there is lots of misinformation but you can sometimes get leads from sites if nothing else. Takes some sifting but the stories are often colorful. Most of the pillars of society are scoundrels and worse. History books -- old history books to be more accurate - are interesting sources. Most modern ones are sanitized. Kirk PS Harriman is also in the Bush family tree. I think that is the Harriman of Brown bros and Harriman -bankers Mike Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The caption under his picture reads "Former President Jimmy Carter says that Bush has encouraged Israel and Hezbollah to attack." Absolutely. 1.) Fabricated provocation of war by Hezbollah through selective recollection of the events. 2.) Reports of Iranian fighters killed in Lebanon 3.) Intense media coverage by FOX to raise sympathy for Israel's government 4.) Increased media coverage by FOX of Iranian saber rattling by it's leadership. 5.) Continued media coverage by FOX of suspicious activities in Syria. So, what do you think of a U.S. state department campaign for a war against Iran, starting with a proxy war against Lebanon, then Syria? In my opinion, Bush is capable of anything and although I hesitated to speculate, I also don't put it past him or some of the religious zealots running the federal government to execute such a radical plan. Mike fox mulder wrote: his over all view is that he is sickened by the pictures he sees, on sky news every hour, of burned and maimed babies and children. the double standard of the countries like UK and USA is apparent. Please listen to the former president Carter who is an intellectual not lunatic like Bush. Source: cnn http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/08/05/carter.mideast.ap/ . Open
Re: [Biofuel] George Galloway _ Lebanon. View it while you can
Couldn't agree with you more, Joe. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Joe Street To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] George Galloway _ Lebanon. View it while you can Throughout my life, growing up, initially ignoring the news like most children, then paying more attention and then eventually learning of media control and being disgusted and so again ignoring, and then returning and watching it as a propaganda source and as an indicator of where control is being exercised has been a gradual process of unfolding for me. But there through it all has been a voice I have often heard. One of the quieter voices that sometimes gets a chance at the microphone but generally not, is the voice that keeps saying there are those who promote war. War is needed. War is what sustains some element of the warped western society. That voice is ringing in my head now and I wonder where the next conflict will spring up. It is true. I guess the situation in Iraq has turned into one where the US is spending more than it wants to and using too many of it's own weapons because it has to. It only makes sense that a conflict needs to happen elsewhere where weapons need to be used up which are bought and paid for and replaced with new ones which are bought and paid for. Where will the next cash cow be? Can anyone guess?JoeKirk McLoren wrote: It appears Bush has at least 3 motives for war. 1. OIL 2. support of radical right "Christianity" and their "end time" views thus their support of war. 3. Support of his allie Israel which wants his support for their expansionism. His father when director of CIA furthered this by CIA bankrolling Murdochso he could purchase all the media which we see is now pro Israel. News reporting is not what they do. CONsensus forming is what they do. Basically it seems oil ambitions have joined expansionist ambitions.Perhaps they are not so separate. Theremay be another factor as well in the alliance. see http://www.puritans.net/news/royalty022703.htm Both George Bush and Barbara Pierce Bush (of Merrill, Lynch, Pierce, Fenner and Smith) are descended from the same Pierce family of England as President Franklin Pierce. Originally known as the enormously powerful Percy family of England, a name change to Pierce was required along with a quick immigration to America, when their involvement in the failed Gun Powder Plot to blow up Parliament became known. One of the Percy castles, where this plot was hatched was known as Sion House. Other notable Bush relatives include the Grosvenor families of England and America, and the Taft family of Ohio. The Grosvenors of England are the Dukes of Westminster who own the most substantial properties in the City of London --- the banker's capital. Of over 100,000 acres of Grosvenor property, most is in the financial district of London! In America, the Grosvenors founded Nation Geographic. National Geographic is known for sweeping down on the archeological treasures of the world, especially those of a religious significance, and spiriting them away to the Smithsonian Institute, controlled by their cousins the Smithsons, also descended from the Percys. Imposing false interpretations on religious finds is very important to the House of Sion. -- Exercise caution when researching on the Internet as there is lots of misinformation but you can sometimes get leads from sites if nothing else. Takes some sifting but the stories are often colorful. Most of the pillars of society are scoundrels and worse. History books -- old history books to be more accurate - are interesting sources. Most modern ones are sanitized. Kirk PS Harriman is also in the Bush family tree. I think that is the Harriman of Brown bros and Harriman -bankers Mike Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The caption under his picture reads "Former President Jimmy Carter says that Bush has encouraged Israel and Hezbollah to attack."Absolutely.1.) Fabricated provocation of war by Hezbollah through selective recollection of the events.2.) Reports of Iranian fighters killed in Lebanon3.) Intense media coverage by FOX to raise sympathy for Israel's government4.) Increased media coverage by FOX of Iranian saber rattling by it's leadership.5.) Continued media coverage by FOX of suspicious activities in Syria.So, what do you think of a U.S. state department campaign for a war against Iran, starting with a proxy war against Lebanon, then Syria? In my opinion, Bush is capable of anything and although I hesita
[Biofuel] George Galloway _ Lebanon. View it while you can
Check this interview out! I am amazed they let him speak. Kirkhttp://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,31200-galloway_060806,00.html Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] George Galloway _ Lebanon. View it while you can
I picked upthe same story through another link (http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=508 ).In my opinion it's absolutely awesome! Galloway takes every word and every second he has on the airand drives home a point that too few want to touch. The foreign policy illusion generated by the U.S. and it's allies, the dehumanizing of victims in Palestine and Lebanon, the grossly one-sided stories broadcast by Western (American) media and the broadcaster who believe it. He doesn't even entertain the convoluted questionsbeing asked.Rupert Murdoch was specifically mentioned by name, thedistinction (or lack thereof)between terrorists and "freedom fighters" are exactly the kinds of things thatneed to flow through EVERY media outlet.Well done Mr. Galloway!!Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check this interview out! I am amazed they let him speak. Kirkhttp://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,31200-galloway_060806,00.html___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] George Galloway _ Lebanon. View it while you can
--- Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check this interview out! I am amazed they let him speak. Kirk http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,31200-galloway_060806,00.html - Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ his over all view is that he is sickened by the pictures he sees, on sky news every hour, of burned and maimed babies and children. the double standard of the countries like UK and USA is apparent. Please listen to the former president Carter who is an intellectual not lunatic like Bush. Source: cnn http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/08/05/carter.mideast.ap/ Carter: Bush Israel's 'worst ally' in D.C. PLAINFIELD TOWNSHIP, Michigan (AP) -- Former President Carter, who helped broker the historic Camp David peace accord, said President Bush has pursued an erroneous policy that has fostered violence in the Middle East. Carter said the United States should work for an immediate cease-fire between Israel and Hezbollah and the world community should concentrate on a long-term solution, but he is uncertain whether Bush can accomplish a cease-fire. It depends on whether world opinion is strong enough to get the administration to change its erroneous policy, which has been to encourage the continuation of attacks on both sides, Carter, a Democrat, told The Grand Rapids Press in an interview Friday. Carter's comments came a day before the U.S. and France agreed on a draft U.N. Security Council resolution that calls for an end to the fighting between Israel and Hezbollah, but would allow Israel to defend itself if attacked. ( Full story) As president, Carter helped broker the Camp David peace accord between Israel and Egypt, the first peace deal between the Jewish state and an Arab nation. In my opinion, maybe the worst ally Israel has had in Washington has been the George W. Bush administration, which hasn't worked to bring a permanent peace to Israel, Carter told the newspaper. Carter and his wife, Rosalynn, were in Kent County's Plainfield Township, near Grand Rapids, on Friday to attend a fundraiser for their son, Jack, who has launched a longshot bid to oust Nevada Republican Sen. John Ensign. President Carter also called for a withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq. In my opinion, we should make every effort now to withdraw American troops from Iraq, Carter said. I would say certainly begin a major withdrawal no later than the end of this year. ___ Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. The New Version is radically easier to use The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] George Galloway _ Lebanon. View it while you can
I think they intend to occupy the whole middle east. Meanwhile Europe more and more sees us as mindless idiots used for the advancement of Israels goals. Americans are unbelievably naive. It will cost us dearly.KirkMichael Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I picked upthe same story through another link (http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=508 ).In my opinion it's absolutely awesome! Galloway takes every word and every second he has on the airand drives home a point that too few want to touch. The foreign policy illusion generated by the U.S. and it's allies, the dehumanizing of victims in Palestine and Lebanon, the grossly one-sided stories broadcast by Western (American) media and the broadcaster who believe it. He doesn't even entertain the convoluted questionsbeing asked.Rupert Murdoch was specifically mentioned by name, thedistinction (or lack thereof)between terrorists and "freedom fighters" are exactly the kinds of things thatneed to flow through EVERY media outlet.Well done Mr. Galloway!!Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check this interview out! I am amazed they let him speak. Kirkhttp://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,31200-galloway_060806,00.html___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta.___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] George Galloway _ Lebanon. View it while you can
The caption under his picture reads "Former President Jimmy Carter says that Bush has encouraged Israel and Hezbollah to attack." Absolutely. 1.) Fabricated provocation of war by Hezbollah through selective recollection of the events. 2.) Reports of Iranian fighters killed in Lebanon 3.) Intense media coverage by FOX to raise sympathy for Israel's government 4.) Increased media coverage by FOX of Iranian saber rattling by it's leadership. 5.) Continued media coverage by FOX of suspicious activities in Syria. So, what do you think of a U.S. state department campaign for a war against Iran, starting with a proxy war against Lebanon, then Syria? In my opinion, Bush is capable of anything and although I hesitated to speculate, I also don't put it past him or some of the religious zealots running the federal government to execute such a radical plan. Mike fox mulder wrote: his over all view is that he is sickened by the pictures he sees, on sky news every hour, of burned and maimed babies and children. the double standard of the countries like UK and USA is apparent. Please listen to the former president Carter who is an intellectual not lunatic like Bush. Source: cnn http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/08/05/carter.mideast.ap/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
