[biofuel] Testing of Biodiesel
Hello Go here to find a very blantant attempt to stop UK small biodiesel production: http://www.greenergy.com/company/downloads/Submission_2004_Budget.pdf Box 1. Substandard biodiesel product Greenergy has serious concerns about the supply of substandard biodiesel in the UK. Greenergy defines substandard biodiesel as any product produced and sold without each production batch being subject to a full quality analysis determined in an ISO quality certified laboratory (the norm for ULSD). Quality analysis is fundamental to the production of safe, fit for purpose biodiesel. Greenergy considers that any product sold without such analysis is not fit for purpose and therefore substandard because its quality is unknown. This is irrespective of whether that biodiesel would have met pr EN14214 if tested or not. What can we do to stop these parasites? Stuart Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel
Hello Kieth and Jay et al. First an introduction: I am an organic chemist with a long time interest in environmental issues, particularly resource conservation. In the past I have organized and operated a community recycling center, served on the Arkansas State Alternative fuels commission, and generally "beat the drum" in any venue available to me. A few years ago I began very small scale production of biodiesel as a demonstration in my organic labs (about 20 ml at a time- ironically the demonstration was to show large scale production relative to the amounts of stuff my students usually handle.) Somewhere along the way I thought I should "walk the talk", so last spring I bought a 81 MB 300SD This summer I made a few one gallon batches from virgin oil, and am currently operating on the same scale with used fry oil from the food service here on campus- about 140 gallons a week available for the taking. One interest in particular is the issue of waste disposal/utilization, the strongly alkaline glycerol remainder in particular. What do both small and large producers do? I guess large producers can give/sell the stuff off but I can't imagine much of a market for a gallon or two at a time. So here is my idea- more fuel. One ought to be able to react the "left overs" with dimethyl sulfate or maybe a methyl halide to form a product- 1,2,3-trimethoxy propane which ought to serve as an oxygenated gasoline additive. Lots of ought to's and maybes, but hey its research. boy, this is a busy list... later. -- Bob Allen, Professor of Chemistryhttp://ozarker.org/bob --- "Some scientists claim that Hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than Hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe." - Frank Zappa --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LIdGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel
If you want, we can talk to convert your testing like official Spanish Biodiesel Association tests (send email to me). This would be a very good help for new biodiesellers. The user could recieve the results by email. I have in mind at least two persons in different places of the country. Regards. Elabore caseramente biodiesel para su actual motor de gasoil petrolfero La solucin a sus problemas energticos. http://www.enlazando.com/energia http://journeytoforever.org/energiaweb/ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel In a message dated 8/25/03 11:14:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Is there any lab that will test a sample of hombrewed bioD to see if it > meets specs? I appreciate it > J.D. I can analyze it for you by infrared spectroscopy. Send a sample plus a sample of the spec fuel. All I need is one drop of each. Normal cost is $60/sample. I'll do this one for you for free. Future samples will be at the stated price. -- Jay [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LIdGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel
In a message dated 8/26/03 12:37:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Bob Allen, Professor of Chemistry http://ozarker.org/bob PS, Bob. You did know that I was teasing you, right? -- Jay [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LIdGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel
In a message dated 8/26/03 2:39:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Bob Allen wrote: > > >Just curious, what will you be measuring by IR spectroscopy? I ran > >virgin vegetable oil, pure FAME, and used vegetable oil and they are > >essentially indistinguishable. > > A chemist, who quotes Frank Zappa to boot! Welcome! :-) And all this > time I thought it was excentrifugal forz. Tut. > > Anyway, do you know about all this? > Measurement of normalized peak heights with comparison between standard and sample addresses your point. Vegetable oil thet has been hydrogenated or oxidized will have a different spectrogaphic profile than "virgin" -- as you put it -- vegetable oil. This isn't rocket science here, folks. Well, on second thought, maybe it is. At any rate, I cut my teeth, so to speak, on IR spectroscopy of Green River Oil Shale while getting my MSChE. I've been using IR throughout my career and love it as an analytical tool. Perhaps some component separation would be necessary, first. If so, TLC (no, not "tender, loving, care," but Thin Layer Chromatography) probably would be the means of choice. Anyhow, don't look a gift horse in the mouth, Bob! I'm going to analyze the stuff for J.D. gratis, for zero, ziltch. (Hey, if it helps eliminate fossil fuel powered vehicles, I'm in favor of it.) -- Jay [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LIdGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel
Bob Allen wrote: >Just curious, what will you be measuring by IR spectroscopy? I ran >virgin vegetable oil, pure FAME, and used vegetable oil and they are >essentially indistinguishable. A chemist, who quotes Frank Zappa to boot! Welcome! :-) And all this time I thought it was excentrifugal forz. Tut. Anyway, do you know about all this? NIR Helps Turn Vegetable Oil into High-Quality Biofuel -- ARS News Release, June 15, 1999 http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/NIR.html Rapid Monitoring of Transesterification and Assessing Biodiesel Fuel Quality by Near-infrared Spectroscopy Using a Fiber-Optic Probe, by Gerhard Knothe, ARS, JAOCS 76, 795-800 (July 1999) http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/NIR1.html Monitoring a Progressing Transesterification Reaction by Fiber-Optic Near Infrared Spectroscopy with Correlation to 1H Nuclear Magnetic Resonance Spectroscopy, by Gerhard Knothe, ARS, JAOCS 77, 489-493 (May 2000) http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/NIR2.html Best Keith >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > I can analyze it for you by infrared spectroscopy. Send a sample plus a > > sample of the spec fuel. All I need is one drop of each. Normal cost is > > $60/sample. I'll do this one for you for free. Future samples >will be at the stated > > price. > > > > -- Jay > > > > > >-- >-- >Bob Allen, Professor of Chemistryhttp://ozarker.org/bob >- >-- >"Some scientists claim that Hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is >the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there >is more stupidity than Hydrogen, and that is the basic building block >of the universe." - Frank Zappa Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LIdGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel
Just curious, what will you be measuring by IR spectroscopy? I ran virgin vegetable oil, pure FAME, and used vegetable oil and they are essentially indistinguishable. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I can analyze it for you by infrared spectroscopy. Send a sample plus a > sample of the spec fuel. All I need is one drop of each. Normal cost is > $60/sample. I'll do this one for you for free. Future samples will be at > the stated > price. > > -- Jay > > -- -- Bob Allen, Professor of Chemistryhttp://ozarker.org/bob --- "Some scientists claim that Hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than Hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe." - Frank Zappa --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LIdGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel
About gas chromatography : http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromatography#Gas_chromatography - Original Message - From: Andreas W Ohnsorge To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel I found some in Germany - they are usually testing large biodiesel batches and are quite expensive (around 800 Euros for a full test). If you don't want to sell the stuff you should consider testing only the really important variables (glycerides,...) which is a gaschromatography test and that was about 120 Euros here. I found those laboratories by asking some of the biodiesel producers where they let test their biodiesel... Andreas Ohnsorge CSC Ploenzke AG Abraham-Lincoln-Park 1 65189 Wiesbaden Germany Phone: +49.611.142.20020 Fax: +49.611.142.980028 Mobile:+49 172 - 8 43 30 32 e-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://www.de.csc.com 100 Jahre Tour de France: Herzlichen Glckwunsch dem Team CSC zum 1. Platz in der Team-Gesamtwertung http://www.csc-cycling.com/. This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. To: cc: 26.08.2003 04:39 Subject: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel Please respond to biofuel Is there any lab that will test a sample of hombrewed bioD to see if it meets specs? I appreciate it J.D. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LIdGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel II
How does one call the more complete industrial biodesel test??? Regards. Elabore caseramente biodiesel para su actual motor de gasoil petrolfero La solucin a sus problemas energticos. http://www.enlazando.com/energia http://journeytoforever.org/energiaweb/ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:39 AM Subject: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel Is there any lab that will test a sample of hombrewed bioD to see if it meets specs? I appreciate it J.D. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LIdGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel
Good idea. But I think standard (petrol) bodies includes difficult and expensive test to obstruct homebrewed biodiesel ( the best test it«s the engine test and clean cylinders from time to time). For small industrial production is another think. One could analize in different ways the produced biodiesel and give advice ( clean more the oil, and so on...). Regards. Elabore caseramente biodiesel para su actual motor de gasoil petrolfero La solucin a sus problemas energticos. http://www.enlazando.com/energia http://journeytoforever.org/energiaweb/ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:39 AM Subject: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel Is there any lab that will test a sample of hombrewed bioD to see if it meets specs? I appreciate it J.D. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LIdGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel
In a message dated 8/25/03 11:14:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Is there any lab that will test a sample of hombrewed bioD to see if it > meets specs? I appreciate it > J.D. I can analyze it for you by infrared spectroscopy. Send a sample plus a sample of the spec fuel. All I need is one drop of each. Normal cost is $60/sample. I'll do this one for you for free. Future samples will be at the stated price. -- Jay [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LIdGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel
Check ASTM for listings of local labs equipped to do some or all of the tests for the ASTM biodiesel standards, then contact them for quotes. This may help: http://www.astm.org/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/LABS/ search.html?L+mystore+xbff5197 On Monday, August 25, 2003, at 07:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Is there any lab that will test a sample of hombrewed bioD to see if it > meets specs? I appreciate it > J.D. > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > -~--> > Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark > Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & > Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 > http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LIdGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM > - > ~-> > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LIdGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel
http://www.astm.org/ verity_hist.cgi?UserQuery=BIODIESEL&SEARCH_COLLECTION=ACTIVE_REDLINE&SEA RCH_STATUS=ALL&MARKETING_CODE=GP1&NS-search-type=Free+text&NS-max- records=5&NS-search-type=boolean&NS- query=BIODIESEL+AND+NOT+%28STATUS+%3CNEAR%2F1%3E+REPLACED%29&CART_NAME=x bff5197&STORE_NAME=mystore&NS-collection=ASTM_ACTIVE_REDLINE&NS- collection2=ASTM_HISTORICAL&NS-collection3=ASTM_WITHDRAWN&NS- collection4=ASTM_WORKITEMS Very long URL, but perhaps you can copy and paste the whole thing into your browser. Leads to publications from ASTM, tests, test methods, standards, etc. On Monday, August 25, 2003, at 07:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Is there any lab that will test a sample of hombrewed bioD to see if it > meets specs? I appreciate it > J.D. > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > -~--> > Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark > Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & > Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 > http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LIdGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM > - > ~-> > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LIdGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel
Analytical Testing Services in Franklin, PA will test it for you if you send them a 1 gallon sample, to meet ASTM 6751-03, for $972.00 all inclusive - it ain't cheap. their contact: 814-432-9424 [EMAIL PROTECTED] cheers, Jack Jack Kenworthy Sustainable Systems Director The Cape Eleuthera Island School 242-359-7625 ph. 954-252-2224 fax www.islandschool.org - Original Message - From: Andreas W Ohnsorge To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 3:02 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel I found some in Germany - they are usually testing large biodiesel batches and are quite expensive (around 800 Euros for a full test). If you don't want to sell the stuff you should consider testing only the really important variables (glycerides,...) which is a gaschromatography test and that was about 120 Euros here. I found those laboratories by asking some of the biodiesel producers where they let test their biodiesel... Andreas Ohnsorge CSC Ploenzke AG Abraham-Lincoln-Park 1 65189 Wiesbaden Germany Phone: +49.611.142.20020 Fax: +49.611.142.980028 Mobile:+49 172 - 8 43 30 32 e-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://www.de.csc.com 100 Jahre Tour de France: Herzlichen Glckwunsch dem Team CSC zum 1. Platz in der Team-Gesamtwertung http://www.csc-cycling.com/. This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. To: cc: 26.08.2003 04:39 Subject: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel Please respond to biofuel Is there any lab that will test a sample of hombrewed bioD to see if it meets specs? I appreciate it J.D. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LIdGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel
I found some in Germany - they are usually testing large biodiesel batches and are quite expensive (around 800 Euros for a full test). If you don't want to sell the stuff you should consider testing only the really important variables (glycerides,...) which is a gaschromatography test and that was about 120 Euros here. I found those laboratories by asking some of the biodiesel producers where they let test their biodiesel... Andreas Ohnsorge CSC Ploenzke AG Abraham-Lincoln-Park 1 65189 Wiesbaden Germany Phone: +49.611.142.20020 Fax: +49.611.142.980028 Mobile:+49 172 - 8 43 30 32 e-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://www.de.csc.com 100 Jahre Tour de France: Herzlichen Glckwunsch dem Team CSC zum 1. Platz in der Team-Gesamtwertung http://www.csc-cycling.com/. This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. To: cc: 26.08.2003 04:39 Subject: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel Please respond to biofuel Is there any lab that will test a sample of hombrewed bioD to see if it meets specs? I appreciate it J.D. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LIdGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Testing of biodiesel
Is there any lab that will test a sample of hombrewed bioD to see if it meets specs? I appreciate it J.D. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LIdGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
