Re: [Biofuel] New bio dieseler

2005-01-29 Thread Pannir P.V

 helow   Jan 
  Send me  your bio data and we will try to brig here  to northeast
Brasil, very underdeveloped area of Brasil, but with rich biomass
research

Pannir Selvam


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Re: [Biofuel] New bio dieseler

2005-01-28 Thread Pieter Koole

Where do you live ?

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Re: [Biofuel] New bio dieseler

2005-01-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Do you produce biodiesel? or you build plants? I am writing from Italy. Do you 
know Trieste?

Bye!!!

Dr Ezio Di Bernardo

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Re: [Biofuel] New bio dieseler

2005-01-28 Thread Jan Warnqvist

Hello Pieter.
I live in Sweden, but as I mentioned, I can consider moving overseas.
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Re: [Biofuel] New bio dieseler

2005-01-28 Thread Legal Eagle



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hi everyone,

i am just starting out on this crazy journey into alternate feuls.


Congratulations on getting started on a rewarding future.

i have been practiceing my titration and making small 1 liter batches in a 
blender from fresh canola oil bought from the corner store. it all seems 
to be going great. after settling over night the liquids seperate into two 
layers no shadow or middle layer. i left one batch sitting for about 2 
weeks and the diesel became transparent.


Question #1 - do i still have to wash this transparent diesel???


Yes, there remains amounts of methanol and catalyst in the fuel that needs 
to be washed out.


titrated some WVO and did a test batch of it too. the first time my math 
was off and i used to little lye, realized my mistake and made up a 
second. this time it seemed to work but doesn't pass the 150ml quality 
test on the JTF site. it didn't seperate in the alloted time but after 
settling over night it did.


But did it seperate into two clearly distinctive layers ? Usually 30 minutes 
will do it.


Question #2 - i and working in a cold wearhouse. could that be the 
problem??


For a small test batch I don't know, however for larger batches I have found 
it a factor not to be dismissed. Processing temperature at 55C and settling 
overnight should allow about 49C  or there abouts still at the draining of 
the glycerine layer after settling.
The batches I made in warm weather worked this wat and were a charm. Those I 
did after the weather turned cooler weren't so cooperative as the water I 
used to wash was the same but had cooled off as had the temps inside the 
reactor. The only factors that changed were the temperatures, everything 
else was identical, which is what led me to believe that the colder temps 
factored in a problem. Problem that I am in the process of removing from the 
equasion by insulating the pump house where the reactor is stored and 
bringing in a small ceramic heater to keep the ambient temps at livable 
summer temps (22C). This won't worl for late December through early March 
but it will for the late fall and early Spring allowing me to produce up to 
those times and have enough stored to carry me through until I can get at it 
again.
I am also presently expanding my system to allow for double capacity a la 
JtF 90 liter type set up with a secondary settling tank.

http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor10.html
Care to have a snoop ?
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor12.html

Stick with it, you will get there, and through the ups and downs you will 
learn the necessary lessons to help you troubleshoot any problems that come 
up, and then be able to pass on the knowledge you have gained that could be 
of help to someone else.


Luc


any help would be welcomed

Vincent Zadworny

Vancouver, Canada




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RE: [Biofuel] New bio dieseler

2005-01-28 Thread Ed Starr

Where do you live ? Santee, California which is just 8 miles east of San
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Re: [Biofuel] New bio dieseler

2005-01-27 Thread Ray J


practiceing my titration and making small 1 liter batches in a blender from fresh 
canola oil bought from the corner store

I thought a person does not have to titrate new oil.. it's always very close to 
the same 3.5 g/ltr i believe..

Yes you should still wash to remove leftover methoxide mixture stuff..

and yes cold is bad.. processing and washing should done at above normal room 
temperatures..



Ray J



Vincent zadworny wrote:


hi everyone,

i am just starting out on this crazy journey into alternate feuls. i have been practiceing my titration and making small 1 liter batches in a blender from fresh canola oil bought from the corner store. it all seems to be going great. after settling over night the liquids seperate into two layers no shadow or middle layer. i left one batch sitting for about 2 weeks and the diesel became transparent. 


Question #1 - do i still have to wash this transparent diesel???

titrated some WVO and did a test batch of it too. the first time my math was 
off and i used to little lye, realized my mistake and made up a second. this 
time it seemed to work but doesn't pass the 150ml quality test on the JTF site. 
it didn't seperate in the alloted time but after settling over night it did.

Question #2 - i and working in a cold wearhouse. could that be the problem??

any help would be welcomed

Vincent Zadworny 


Vancouver, Canada




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Re: [Biofuel] New bio dieseler

2005-01-27 Thread DB


soap is always made. Put some in a clear jar add about 1/4 water, shake it 
up and see what separates. You will probabily have merky oil sitting on top 
of soapy water. This will tell you that you need to wash. You will always 
get a better reaction when you can heat up your oil first...good 
luck  and have fun...DB
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hi everyone,

i am just starting out on this crazy journey into alternate feuls. i have 
been practiceing my titration and making small 1 liter batches in a 
blender from fresh canola oil bought from the corner store. it all seems 
to be going great. after settling over night the liquids seperate into two 
layers no shadow or middle layer. i left one batch sitting for about 2 
weeks and the diesel became transparent.


Question #1 - do i still have to wash this transparent diesel???

titrated some WVO and did a test batch of it too. the first time my math 
was off and i used to little lye, realized my mistake and made up a 
second. this time it seemed to work but doesn't pass the 150ml quality 
test on the JTF site. it didn't seperate in the alloted time but after 
settling over night it did.


Question #2 - i and working in a cold wearhouse. could that be the 
problem??


any help would be welcomed

Vincent Zadworny

Vancouver, Canada




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Re: [Biofuel] New bio dieseler

2005-01-27 Thread Jan Warnqvist

Hi there !
Is there anybody who has work for an expert in fatty acid esters (I have 13
years of experience) ?
I speak English fluently,  have knowledge in Italian, German and Russian,
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Subject: [Biofuel] New bio dieseler


 hi everyone,

 i am just starting out on this crazy journey into alternate feuls. i have
been practiceing my titration and making small 1 liter batches in a blender
from fresh canola oil bought from the corner store. it all seems to be going
great. after settling over night the liquids seperate into two layers no
shadow or middle layer. i left one batch sitting for about 2 weeks and the
diesel became transparent.

 Question #1 - do i still have to wash this transparent diesel???

 titrated some WVO and did a test batch of it too. the first time my math
was off and i used to little lye, realized my mistake and made up a second.
this time it seemed to work but doesn't pass the 150ml quality test on the
JTF site. it didn't seperate in the alloted time but after settling over
night it did.

 Question #2 - i and working in a cold wearhouse. could that be the
problem??

 any help would be welcomed

 Vincent Zadworny

 Vancouver, Canada




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