Re: [SWCollect] Sniping

2001-08-29 Thread Jim Leonard

Chris Newman wrote:
 
 Speaking of sniping...
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1266370886

How did you get your bid in exactly 3 seconds before auction end?
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Re: [SWCollect] Sniping

2001-08-29 Thread Jim Leonard

Hugh Falk wrote:
 
 Speaking of more sniping.  Here's one C.E. and I both sniped recently.  He
 lives even more dangerously than I...he bid 1 second later than me (6
 seconds before close) :-)
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1260285866
 
 However, if he wasn't involved, I could have saved a couple hundred bucks
 :-(

Geezus, you *both* paid too much for this.  I value the entire thing at
$250, tops.
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Re: [SWCollect] Shrinkwrap again

2001-08-29 Thread Jim Leonard

Dan Chisarick wrote:
 
 Read the bottom of this description (about the shrinkwrap).  Sound
 reshrunk?
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1266478226r=0t=0sh
 owTutorial=0ed=999065385indexURL=0rd=1

Based solely off of there are two .5 holes in the wrap on the front,
and 1.5 hole on the back, there isn't enough information to determine
either way if it is or isn't.  A picture would help.

I've dealt with allvideo before and I trust him.  He was good enough to
credit MobyGames when plagarizing our descriptions and pictures ;-D 
(just kidding)
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Re: [SWCollect] Shrinkwrap again

2001-08-29 Thread Jim Leonard

Chris Newman wrote:
 
 Well, I bought it over a year ago from a large-scale software
 distributor who went out of business, not a mom-and-pop used game
 outlet. The wrap isn't the brittle kind, but on the other hand, the
 holes and seams look a little crude. I know the game is new,
 regardless. The dealer assured me as much, and I've dealt with him
 enough to trust him.

I have to ask you, as long as you're here:  Where the heck do you get
the stuff you auction?  Looking at current auctions, I'm seeing Ogre,
Deja Vu, LucasArts collection, V for Victory...  Very consistent
values.  Or do you just not auction off the crap?  ;-)
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Re: [SWCollect] Shrinkwrap again

2001-08-29 Thread Chris Newman

Well, I bought those between 1 and 2 years ago from a guy who sold bargain
software and since went out of business. I meant to auction them off much sooner,
but I started a new job (dot.com -- went bust, thanks Nasdaq!) and didn't have
much time. Doing those ads takes a very very long time, which I suddenly had when
tossed out of work. I'm starting a new job next week, so I probably won't be doing
ebay for awhile.

Alot of the stuff comes from my own collection -- I'm actually listing everything
I have (well, almost hahaha) because I need to make more room in the house, and I
need a sudden influx of cash. Seems we are expecting our first child! I only list
games I put together ads for. I have about 200 or so other games I haven't yet
listed for that reason. I suppose I could list them w/o a proper ad but I'm too
compulsive to do that.

Jim Leonard wrote:

 Chris Newman wrote:
 
  Well, I bought it over a year ago from a large-scale software
  distributor who went out of business, not a mom-and-pop used game
  outlet. The wrap isn't the brittle kind, but on the other hand, the
  holes and seams look a little crude. I know the game is new,
  regardless. The dealer assured me as much, and I've dealt with him
  enough to trust him.

 I have to ask you, as long as you're here:  Where the heck do you get
 the stuff you auction?  Looking at current auctions, I'm seeing Ogre,
 Deja Vu, LucasArts collection, V for Victory...  Very consistent
 values.  Or do you just not auction off the crap?  ;-)
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Re: [SWCollect] Sniping

2001-08-29 Thread Lee K. Seitz

Jim Leonard boldly stated:

It sounds like you run a lot of searches.  Ebay will only let me store
15 saved searches; is there any way to queue up a lot of searches
(more than 15) and run them every few days?

I used to maintain a private page at my web site for eBay searches.  It
consisted of a pulldown with a description of my search terms, a
checkbox for searching descriptions or not, and a button to execute
the search.  (It also had some other eBay-related links  stuff on it,
but the above was the heart of it.)  I loaded in a small frame across
the top and targeted it to the main area below.

I haven't had much time for eBay lately, but I think it's up to date
with their current search forms.  I can send it to you (or post it
here), if anyone's interested.

 4.)  eBay provides a feature allowing you to save up to 15 searches.  Use
 it, and use it well.  For instance, searching on
 (infocom,zork,ultima,akalabeth,serenia,cranston,softporn,drash) will turn
 up the best collectible games in one decisive blow, and you still get 14
 more searches after that.

A comma is the seperator???  What a bizarre system.  I'll read up more
on the search syntax.  Thanks!

Gee, Jim, you've been using eBay *how* long?  I guess it's safe to say
you're not hard core (yet).  More specifically, ORs are done by
enclosing a comma separated list of words in parentheses (sp?).  ANDs
are done just by listing words separated by spaces.  (But be sure not
to put spaces on either side of the commas in your ORs!)  For example,
(q bert,qbert) will find auctions with qbert, q and bert, and
even q*bert.  (It turns out some characters, like * are treated as
a word separator, so Q*bert, Q-bert, and Q Bert all match a
search on q bert.)

BTW, this reminds me of another eBay search feature.  They limit the
number of characters you can enter in their search forms.  But if you
use a custom page like mine, you can enter longer searches.
Particularly useful for entering a long list of words NOT to include
(e.g. (q bert,qbert)
-(atari,colecovision,2600,Nintendo,NES,SNES,PC,playstation,dreamcast,gameboy,game 
boy)).

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Re: [SWCollect] Sniping

2001-08-29 Thread Jim Leonard

Lee K. Seitz wrote:
 
 I haven't had much time for eBay lately, but I think it's up to date
 with their current search forms.  I can send it to you (or post it
 here), if anyone's interested.

I'd be curious to see it, thanks.
 
  4.)  eBay provides a feature allowing you to save up to 15 searches.  Use
  it, and use it well.  For instance, searching on
  (infocom,zork,ultima,akalabeth,serenia,cranston,softporn,drash) will turn
  up the best collectible games in one decisive blow, and you still get 14
  more searches after that.
 
 A comma is the seperator???  What a bizarre system.  I'll read up more
 on the search syntax.  Thanks!
 
 Gee, Jim, you've been using eBay *how* long?  I guess it's safe to say

Since 1997.  But I've never had a reason to snipe before; I always
entered my bid and walked away.

 you're not hard core (yet).  More specifically, ORs are done by

I hope you're not suggesting that not being a hard core ebay bidder is
a bad thing :-)

 enclosing a comma separated list of words in parentheses (sp?).  ANDs
 are done just by listing words separated by spaces.  (But be sure not
 to put spaces on either side of the commas in your ORs!)  For example,
 (q bert,qbert) will find auctions with qbert, q and bert, and
 even q*bert.  (It turns out some characters, like * are treated as
 a word separator, so Q*bert, Q-bert, and Q Bert all match a
 search on q bert.)

Cool, thanks for the info.
 
 BTW, this reminds me of another eBay search feature.  They limit the
 number of characters you can enter in their search forms.  But if you
 use a custom page like mine, you can enter longer searches.
 Particularly useful for entering a long list of words NOT to include
 (e.g. (q bert,qbert)
 -(atari,colecovision,2600,Nintendo,NES,SNES,PC,playstation,dreamcast,gameboy,game 
boy)).

More excellent info, thanks!
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Re: [SWCollect] Sniping

2001-08-29 Thread Jim Leonard

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 In a message dated 08/29/2001 11:18:36 AM Central Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Geezus, you *both* paid too much for this.  I value the entire thing at
  $250, tops. 
 
 Well no, I won't say what makes it worth more but it IS worth more than the
 final bid. The winnah!! can tell you what makes the lot so valuable. This is
 a good example of my lot theory and people searching on your name to find
 things to bid on, these two guys sniped it but if they had bid earlier it may
 have got a lot more attention.

Yes, but my $250 quote was indeed for the entire lot.  Apples are $20
nowadays and the Pascal stuff was worthless to those guys.  In fact, I
was going on the entertainment software bundle alone only and I still
think they paid too much for it.  And the shipping won't be trivial
either... But, such is life.  We all do what we want to do.

There is a time when you have to stand back, appreciate your collection,
and be happy for what you have.  My original philosophy (bid once and
walk away) is probably going to be my mode of operation for a while
because, quite frankly, I've got way too much going on in my life to be
checking ebay twice a day, setting timepieces to match up with PST
within the second, and stressing out over sniping.  It's not my living. 
I understand that for some people here, it *is* their living, but I'd
rather have piece of mind and a lower stress level (and, most
importantly, more time for other projects).
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Re: [SWCollect] Sniping

2001-08-29 Thread Chris Newman

Jim,

You realize you've achived the perfect Zen state to not let ebay consume you. Not
everyone is so calm about it! Good for you. I try to do what you do -- I force
myself to walk away because I'll keep increasing my bids and wind up spending 40%
more than I had planned. Way to go.

Jim Leonard wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  In a message dated 08/29/2001 11:18:36 AM Central Daylight Time,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   Geezus, you *both* paid too much for this.  I value the entire thing at
   $250, tops. 
 
  Well no, I won't say what makes it worth more but it IS worth more than the
  final bid. The winnah!! can tell you what makes the lot so valuable. This is
  a good example of my lot theory and people searching on your name to find
  things to bid on, these two guys sniped it but if they had bid earlier it may
  have got a lot more attention.

 Yes, but my $250 quote was indeed for the entire lot.  Apples are $20
 nowadays and the Pascal stuff was worthless to those guys.  In fact, I
 was going on the entertainment software bundle alone only and I still
 think they paid too much for it.  And the shipping won't be trivial
 either... But, such is life.  We all do what we want to do.

 There is a time when you have to stand back, appreciate your collection,
 and be happy for what you have.  My original philosophy (bid once and
 walk away) is probably going to be my mode of operation for a while
 because, quite frankly, I've got way too much going on in my life to be
 checking ebay twice a day, setting timepieces to match up with PST
 within the second, and stressing out over sniping.  It's not my living.
 I understand that for some people here, it *is* their living, but I'd
 rather have piece of mind and a lower stress level (and, most
 importantly, more time for other projects).
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Re: [SWCollect] Sniping

2001-08-29 Thread Lee K. Seitz

Jim Leonard boldly stated:

Lee K. Seitz wrote:
 
 I haven't had much time for eBay lately, but I think it's up to date
 with their current search forms.  I can send it to you (or post it
 here), if anyone's interested.

I'd be curious to see it, thanks.

Sent in private e-mail.

 you're not hard core (yet).

I hope you're not suggesting that not being a hard core ebay bidder is
a bad thing :-)

No, just not the norm for this group. 8)

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Re: [SWCollect] Shrinkwrap again

2001-08-29 Thread Chris Newman



Jim Leonard wrote:

 Chris Newman wrote:
 
  Alot of the stuff comes from my own collection -- I'm actually listing everything
  I have (well, almost hahaha) because I need to make more room in the house, and I
  need a sudden influx of cash. Seems we are expecting our first child! I only list

 Congrats!  I recently played Time Pilots with my 2-yr-old (he plays
 better than my wife!) and my 4.5-yr-old enjoys playing Pac-Man,
 Pac-Mania, Marble Madness, and Crystal Castles, so old games definitely
 come in handy.  :)  Corrupt them when they're young, that's what I say!

When did you start weaning your first on a computer? I don't think neural implants are
yet a viable technology so the pedestrian route it is.

  games I put together ads for. I have about 200 or so other games I haven't yet
  listed for that reason. I suppose I could list them w/o a proper ad but I'm too
  compulsive to do that.

 Ah, more fuel for my fire of all software collectors have a
 neurological disorder.  :-D  If it's any consolation, your ebay ads are
 exquisitely crafted and a welcome change from the shite that is usually
 posted there (INFOCOM GAME RARE MINT!!!)

Thanks alot. Coming from an expert like you that's a real compliment! There's nothing
that bothers me more than a blatant ad by someone who doesn't know anything about
a game or its impact (and much more importantly doesn't *care* enough to find out) but
uses stupid buzzwords to generate hype:

L00K -- Crispy mint impossible to find Ultima with  a totally REAL moonthing! This
game retailed
for $69.95 and uses state of the art VGA graphics and Adlib sound. Get this TODAY. I've

seen this go for like $200.

Hello! Ultima VI came out over a decade ago! Retail price is irrelevant, and the state
of the
art has improved exponentially since then.

I agree with you about the disorder too. At least it's a happy one, not so much a crack
addiction
but closer to a Ned Flanders belief in an optimistic world.

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Re: [SWCollect] Sniping

2001-08-29 Thread C.E. Forman

 It sounds like you run a lot of searches.  Ebay will only let me store
 15 saved searches; is there any way to queue up a lot of searches
 (more than 15) and run them every few days?

Not automatically through eBay.  I think you can have eBay mail you the
results of 3 saved searches daily or every 3 days.  I'm on eBay almost every
day, so I just do it manually.  Takes about 10-15 minutes, and the number of
items I find makes it well worth it.



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Re: [SWCollect] Sniping

2001-08-29 Thread C.E. Forman

 How did you get your bid in exactly 3 seconds before auction end?

Because I'm very, very good.  B-)

Actually I just do the standard procedure: Two windows open, one with a
place bid button at the ready, the second my refresh window (with graphics
turned off so it loads faster).  Hit Ctrl-R repeatedly in the last minute,
switch windows and click when it gets down to about 10 seconds.

Sometimes there's a bit of a lag, so you cut it a few seconds closer than
planned.  I've actually had my bid time be the EXACT second the auction
closed, and I still won.  (Runner-up was PISSED! B-)

There are snipe services, such as VRane.com and eSnipe.com, that will
connect to eBay a specified number of seconds before the auction's close and
bid on your behalf.  You have to give them your user ID and password,
though, plus you're relying on their servers being up in addition to eBay's.
Personally I only use these if I'm not going to be home when the auction
closes.  I enjoy the heart-ramming adrenaline high you can only get from
sniping in person.



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Re: [SWCollect] Sniping

2001-08-29 Thread C.E. Forman

  http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1260285866

 Geezus, you *both* paid too much for this.  I value the entire thing at
 $250, tops.

That's probably because the auction text doesn't mention that the Starcross
game is the saucer package.  Hugh and I both asked, but the seller never
posted it publicly.

That's another piece of good advice:  If you're not sure what
package/release an item is, ask!  If the seller says it's Ultima for the
Apple II, ask if it's the Origin or the CPC release.  Of course, there is a
downside to this: The seller may decide to add this info to the auction, and
then everyone will know.  (I've lost count of the number of times someone
selling BattleTech: The Crescent Hawk's Inception has told me, Sorry, it
doesn't have a pin, somebody else asked me that too.  Then the next time I
check the page, he's added this fact to the description.)



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Re: [SWCollect] Shrinkwrap again

2001-08-29 Thread C.E. Forman

 L00K -- Crispy mint impossible to find Ultima with  a totally REAL
moonthing! This
 game retailed
 for $69.95 and uses state of the art VGA graphics and Adlib sound. Get
this TODAY. I've
 seen this go for like $200.

This brings up something I've never understood:  Why in God's name do some
sellers persist in using L@@K!!! in their auction titles?  Nobody ever
searches on it.  It's not even a word.  Considering you only get 45
characters in the title, it's a waste of 4 + however many exclamations you
add after.



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Re: [SWCollect] Shrinkwrap again

2001-08-29 Thread Chris Newman

Or the obnoxious multiple exclamation points! I usually gloss over auctions with
titles like that, unless I'm on a serious hunt.

I really wish ebay would expand the title field. Can the impact on their databases
be that heavy? What are they running? Solaris?

C.E. Forman wrote:

  L00K -- Crispy mint impossible to find Ultima with  a totally REAL
 moonthing! This
  game retailed
  for $69.95 and uses state of the art VGA graphics and Adlib sound. Get
 this TODAY. I've
  seen this go for like $200.

 This brings up something I've never understood:  Why in God's name do some
 sellers persist in using L@@K!!! in their auction titles?  Nobody ever
 searches on it.  It's not even a word.  Considering you only get 45
 characters in the title, it's a waste of 4 + however many exclamations you
 add after.

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Re: [SWCollect] Sniping

2001-08-29 Thread Jim Leonard

Chris Newman wrote:
 
 You realize you've achived the perfect Zen state to not let ebay consume you. Not
 everyone is so calm about it! Good for you. I try to do what you do -- I force
 myself to walk away because I'll keep increasing my bids and wind up spending 40%
 more than I had planned. Way to go.

Thanks! (at least, I'm hoping what you wrote wasn't sarcasm ;-)  I think
my ebay attitude coincides with my recent epiphany that I need to
simplify my life or die in a few years.  Exercise, lower stress levels,
following a regular schedule, etc.  Pretty much the opposite of how I've
lived life as a hacking miscreant for the past 17 years.  I guess
turning 30 years old was, in and of itself, an epiphany ;-)
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