[swinog] SwiNOG-BE44 - Beer Event 44 - 11th of December 06 @ Outback/Zurich
dear swinogers so.. i'm glad to announce the LAST beer-event ... ... of this year in zürich ,-) the facts for the next event: - Date: 11th of December 2006 Time: starting around 18.30 o'clock Location: @ the "Outback" Bahnhof Stadelhofen Registration deadline: 10.12.2006 12:00:00 Registration: - Please register here: http://swinog.mrmouse.ch/ Since we have to make reservations, i need to know who's coming and who not. If you cannot attend and you're registered please inform me asap. Important: If someone cannot find us: call me on my mobile: 079 / 277 92 35 greetings -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] Bluewin Firewall
bluewin firewall has 3 levels, traffic from internal is filterd to external: http://de.bluewin.ch/internetzugang/index.php/security_firewall http://fr.bluewin.ch/accesinternet/index.php/security_firewall -steven > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcel Prisi > Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 3:02 PM > To: swinog@swinog.ch > Subject: [swinog] Bluewin Firewall > > Hi all, > > Does anyone have some technical details about "bluewin firewall" > http://fr.bluewin.ch/accesinternet/index.php/index_firewall ? > > We have a Jabber (xmpp) based application that seems to be > unusable behind it. > > Any other experiences ? > > Thanks. > > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] IP-Plus problem?
morning: http://www.ip-plus.net/network/network_status/index.en.mpl?SYS_state=init;SYS_nav_lnk=current -steven > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sudan, Marco > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:26 AM > To: swinog@swinog.ch > Subject: [swinog] IP-Plus problem? > > Good morning, > > Does anyone else have problem with IP-plus? we have several > customer complaining about problems with Swisscom Sites. > > 2 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 213.173.163.209 > 310 ms 8 ms11 ms > atm6-0-1086.ar3.zrh.ch.colt.net [213.173.173.37] > 4 7 ms 8 ms12 ms 212.23.224.59 > 510 ms 9 ms26 ms ge0-1-pr1.ZRH.router.colt.net > [212.74.70.2] > 6 * 119 ms * 194.42.48.72 > 7 *** Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. > 824 ms * 24 ms > i71lzw-000-xxx0-3x3503.bb.ip-plus.net [138.187.129.118] > 968 ms *8 ms > i71zgs-001-fas1-1-0.bb.ip-plus.net [138.187.142.130] > 1013 ms ** > soft-00-c1-ser0.ce.ip-plus.net [164.128.125.34] > 11 *** Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. > 12 *** Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. > 13 *** Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. > 14 *** Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. > 15 *** Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. > 16 *** Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] SwiNOG-BE42 - Beer Event 42 - 16th of October 06 @Don Weber / Zurich
dear swinogers due to the next swinog meeting i've moved the beer event to mid october ,-) (next will be somewhen mid november). the facts for the next event: - Date: 16th of October 2006 Time: starting around 18.30 o'clock Location: @ the "Don Weber" (Hardstrasse 316, Near TIX). It's between the Escher-Wys Platz and the Cinemax. Registration deadline: 15.10.2006 23:59:59 Registration: - Please register here: http://swinog.mrmouse.ch/ Since we have to make reservations, i need to know who's coming and who not. If you cannot attend and you're registered please inform me asap. Important: If someone cannot find us: call me on my handy: 079 / 277 92 35 greetings -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] SwiNOG-BE41 - Beer Event 41 - 4th of September 06 @Outback / Zurich
dear swinogers sorry, again very late for this - but it has been preannounced around 2 weeks ago on IRC :-) anyway, to the important data... the facts for the next event: - Date: 4th of September 2006 Time: starting around 18.30 o'clock Location: @ the "Outback" Bahnhof Stadelhofen Registration deadline: 04.09.2006 12:00:00 Registration: - Please register here: http://swinog.mrmouse.ch/ Since we have to make reservations, i need to know who's coming and who not. If you cannot attend and you're registered please inform me asap. Important: If someone cannot find us: call me on my handy: 079 / 277 92 35 greetings -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] Formmailer-Scripts and Spam
> Well, IMHO this is no better than my solution using JS What > do you do if someone has cookies disabled? > I for my part often reject cookies 'just because' when I dont > feel they're really needed... java script is client side. it only prevents that a form can be submittet. what if you circumvent that and post directly? as we know, simulating a post ist quite easy: telnet to host port 80: "POST /superposter/gna.php HTTP/1.1\r\n Host: www.blabla.ch \r\n User-Agent: whatever you want\r\n Accept: text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plai n;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5\r\n Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate\r\n Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7\r\n Keep-Alive: 300\r\n Connection: keep-alive\r\n Referer: www.blabla.ch/urli/index.php Cookie: PHPSESSID-111\r\n Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded\r\n Content-Length: 100\n \r\n action=login&nick=username&password=password&submit=LOGIN \r\n" if you get that you cannot check if he used your javascript or not ,-) he might check your session-id, but what if the client gets a session id and uses that one to fill in the form. that soo easy :-) (i'm using such a tool as a proxy for an online game since about 5 years ,-)) -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] [update] *SPECIAL* SwiNOG-BE40 - BBQ/Beer Event 40 - 7th of August @ Oerlikerpark Block this subject
hi all since the weather is quite bad we will go to the "Outback" at Bahnhof Stadelhofen. so the BBQ is cancelled. registration is still open until 12:00 - then i have to make the reservation. greetings -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] *SPECIAL* SwiNOG-BE40 - BBQ/Beer Event 40 - 7th of August @ Oerlikerpark Block this subject
hi all yesss.. already the 40th beer event and its summer! so be prepared for another great swinog-beer and grill event ;-) we go again for this BBQ event Oerlikerpark (near Center Eleven / Zurich Oerlikon). Link for registration http://swinog.mrmouse.ch/ please read the whole e-mail - there are some important informations :) when is it? 7th of august at around 18.30 - until.. well..open end ;) Registration deadline: 06.08.2006 24:00:00 ok, the registration deadline is kind of obsolete. anyone who wants to come just comes. we have enough space ,-) (but for the restaurant in case of bad weather it's quite important) what to food / drink? --- quite simple: what you bring with you is what you can eat and drink. some ppl are sponsoring some things, but don't rely on that. we will have some grills and some place to seat. since i'm just coming back from holidays one day before the event i might not be able to get some charcoal but i will at least sponsor some one-way-usable-trow-away grills. and for sure i'll bring the little ventilator ;-) (thanks another time to roman ;-)) so, if you register and you want to contribute something for others please note it to the "COMMENTS" field when registering. this is very helpful for others to know, that to bring ;-) this could be: - beer - some hot sauces (venty?) - chips & snacks - good mood - bread - desserts - salads - etc.. where is it? - http://www.gis.zh.ch/gb4/zvv/zvv.asp?zvv=ja&hst=0103789 it's in the 'Oerlikerpark' near Center Eleven / Zurich Oerlikon. with the bus 64 or 75 from bahnhof oerlikon until 'Bollingerweg'. or you come with the bus number 80 until 'Birchstrasse' and then walk behind the credit suisse building. ith the car you might park in the Parkhaus Octavo (in the CS building) or in he near of the center eleven (coop; 5min away and has open until 20.00). see pictures on http://gallery.glogger.ch/swinogbe16 problems (!!!): --- there is NO public toilet in the near. so please consider this before leaving for the BE ,-) there might be some toilets walking some minutes around ;-) if there is (very) bad weather: On Bad weather (will be communicated on the same day around noon) we go to the "Outback" Bahnhof Stadelhofen if the weather is very bad on that date we would move to the "Outback" at Bahnhof Stadelhofen. I will make an email until 12:00 about the change if necessairy and update the website. If someone cannot find us: call me on my handy: 079 / 277 92 35 greetings -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] SwiNOG-BE39 - Beer Event 39 - 17th of July 06 @Pumpstation / Zurich Lake
dear swinogers sorry i'm a little bit late with this mail. but in one of my last posts i told you to reserve the 17th :) anyway, deadline is sunday 18:00 for reg. some important words: == since we're reserving at the pumpstation, and officially we're not allowed to reserve any table there, we have to be really on time. i have to give up the remaining space around 18:45/18:50. so, if you're not punctional it might be that your seat is already gone and you'll organize a new seat by yourself... we've had some troubles with the restaurant last year because people came too late, we've had an almost empty table around for about an hour. this is bad for their business and this is bad for us (no reservations anymore...). if you're not sure if you'll be on time just drop a note to the comment field... the facts for the next event: - Date: 17th of July 2006 Time: starting around 18.30 o'clock Location: @lake in restaurant "Pumpstation" (see image; www.pumpstation.ch) On Bad weather (will be communicated the same day around noon) we go to the "Outback" Bahnhof Stadelhofen Registration deadline: 16.07.2006 18:00:00 Registration: - Please register here: http://swinog.mrmouse.ch/ Since we have to make reservations, i need to know who's coming and who not. If you cannot attend and you're registered please inform me asap. Important: If someone cannot find us: call me on my handy: 079 / 277 92 35 greetings -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] FW: Copper thefts in california
imagine this imaginary conversation with an ISP help desk: helpdesk: "good day sir. how can i help you?" customer: "help - my internet and my ADSL line is not working anymore." helpdesk: "does your phone is working?" customer: "no, not at all - i'm calling you from my mobile." helpdesk: "did you checked the cablings? is the plug inserted correct in the walljack?" ... 2minutes of rümschelrümschel... we hear an 'outch' - seems the customer banged his head against the table or so... customer: "yes, i've taken it out and plugged back in - but still no signal" helpdesk: "hmm.. let me check your line - " ... ... "yes, i dont see any signal on our side - it could be that you have a psysical access problem" customer: "no, i'm not challenged!!!" helpdesk: "i mean that your physical line of the t-e-l-e-p-h-o-n-e might be interrupted / broken somewhere. you know, the thin cable ..." customer: "what should i do? call an electrician?" helpdesk: "no, we will open a ticket at the local telco". ... some days later ... helpdesk: "good day sir. we've got now feedback from the local telco company. your line should be fixed within the next days" customer: "what is it?" helpdesk: "lets call it problem with the last mile access..." customer: "... which means?" helpdesk: "well... it seems that someone stole your wire?" customer: "sorry, i'm disturbed.. he stole what??" helpdesk: "as you might have heard the price increase for copper has lead some criminals to pick exiting copper lines which are digged in the street... some made a fortune with copper lines..:" customer: "this would explain why my electrian had to put in new electrical-cables - they might have disappeared some days ago... i had no power at all... " customer: "... and my internet was not working ... thats why i called you" helpdesk: otherwise..please refer to "the internet help desk" (old but always good :)) http://www.mrmouse.ch/fun/video/wesmonocable.mov -steven ps: plz reserve in your agenda the 17th of july - next ZH beer event will be planned for this date :) ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] FW: 91.192/10 to be used for PI assignments to End Users
probably swisscom/andré will update their filter stuff, not? :) -steven -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of leo vegoda Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 1:51 PM To: Address Policy WG; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: nanog@merit.edu; afnog@afnog.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 91.192/10 to be used for PI assignments to End Users Dear Colleagues, At recent RIPE Meetings, we have reported a steady rise in requests from our members for Provider Independent (PI) address space for End User networks. We have reclaimed and recycled space from closed Local Internet Registries to meet this demand, but we are nearing the point where the available PI space will run out. In the past, we made PI assignments from former Class C space (193/8 and 194/7). Because of the increasing demand for PI space, we made sure that we would be able to use some of our most recent allocation of address space to meet future requests. We have designated 91.192/10 for PI assignments to End User networks. When the former Class C space is exhausted, we will start to make PI assignments from 91.192/10. We will let you know when this happens. We are announcing a pilot prefix using the RIS beacons, you may want to update any filters that you have in place. The RIS beacons are announcing the following networks: 91.192.0.0/24 91.192.0.0/16 You can ping 91.192.0.1. Full details of reachable IP addresses and tools are available on our web site at: http://www.ris.ripe.net/debogon/debogon.html Regards, -- leo vegoda Registration Services Manager RIPE NCC ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] FW: Copper thefts in california
will this be the new business model after upgrading mostly to fiber? "we sell copper" does get a double meaning :) -steven -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean Donelan Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 10:42 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Copper thefts in california In addition to the traditional backhoe threat, as the price of copper increased so has the threat of people stealing telephone trunk cables containing copper wire. http://www.dailybulletin.com/news/ci_4021500 Since Jan. 1, there have been 148 reports of copper wire theft in San Bernardino County, said sheriff's spokeswoman Jodi Miller. [...] Per pound, the metal has risen in price from about 70 cents in July 2001 to $3.60 this month, according to Kitco Inc., an international retailer of precious metals. [...] Anyone with information on the Verizon theft may call the Verizon Security Control Center, 1-800-997-3287. For the AT&T thefts, people may call security at (213) 633-2558 or (213) 633-2405. People with information on copper thefts may also contact their local law enforcement agencies. ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] RFD: Filtering/Blacklisting AS9145 (EWETEL) Cause:Providing internet access to known spamer
hoi benoit well, i personally dont see a difference between fürst and any other korean, US or spanish spammer. so why should i block any other ISP's AS/traffic? the collateral damage might be too big and does not justify the filtering. anyway, i dont like spammer and i don't like fürst at all. i cannot understand the reasons of EWETEL to not react on it, because it's a normal abuse case where they risk to get on blacklists which can cause them more damage.. but anyway, thats their risk if you think to put the whole AS9145 to the swinog antispam list we might consider to not use anymore the list, because we're having then a sorbs-a-like effect which i dont like ... but i'm not the decision maker in our company, so this remains a personal view ;-) -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] SwiNOG-BE38 - Beer Event 38 - 26th of June 06 @Pumpstation / Zurich Lake
dear swinogers so, next beer event is coming. again for the lake ;-) please watch out the reg. deadline (saturday, 24.06. at high-noon) .. :) thanks. some important words: == since we're reserving at the pumpstation, and officially we're not allowed to reserve any table there, we have to be really on time. i have to give up the remaining space around 18:45/18:50. so, if you're not punctional it might be that your seat is already gone and you'll organize a new seat by yourself... we've had some troubles with the restaurant last year because people came too late, we've had an almost empty table around for about an hour. this is bad for their business and this is bad for us (no reservations anymore...). if you're not sure if you'll be on time just drop a note to the comment field... the facts for the next event: - Date: 26th of June 2006 Time: starting around 18.30 o'clock Location: @lake in restaurant "Pumpstation" (see image; www.pumpstation.ch) On Bad weather (will be communicated the same day around noon) we go to the "Outback" Bahnhof Stadelhofen Registration deadline: 24.06.06 12:00:00 Registration: - Please register here: http://swinog.mrmouse.ch/ Since we have to make reservations, i need to know who's coming and who not. If you cannot attend and you're registered please inform me asap. Important: If someone cannot find us: call me on my handy: 079 / 277 92 35 greetings -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
> Whom does the RSS feed serve the most? Surely not the active > part of the SwiNOG-Community. Those guys can just as well > read the mails and answer to random topics they feel the need to. ack. > RSS does not give you that possibility, you're readonly. A > perfect excuse to just consume and give nothing back > (information that is). I don't like that idea. full ack. > Mail is as easy and flexible that it's even readable on a > cell phone or an old-fart PDA. Just because some of you have > a shiny new Ogo or Mulberry (whatchamacallit?) does not mean > everyone wants to replace his Palm IIIx now. another ack. > Finally, HTML-Mails with Flash and JavaScript do go the same > way, so don't even think about coming up with THAT! final ack. -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
well, i think RSS is quite a standard and there are possibilities to provide the swinog mailinglist also as RSS feed.. but anyway, a forum/blog is the wrong way... mail should be still the way of communication for swinog members ,-) -steven > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Xaver Aerni > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 11:23 AM > To: swinog@swinog.ch > Subject: Re: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed > > think to install an RSS Client is in different offices is a > Problem. If we make a change is a Forum (or new called Blogg) > the beter idea. But you must check what is in the future the > best way. I think some people uesing Handshields or Mobiles > for reading the list... > I don't konw if in future are RSS Reader avable for this products. > > Greetings > Xaver > - Original Message - > From: "Tonnerre LOMBARD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Glogger Steven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:38 AM > Subject: Re: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed > > > > ___ > > swinog mailing list > > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
can someone remove this guy which is completely not able to give his autoresponder some "artificial intelligence" to at least respond ONCE and not each time ;-)? -steven > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 11:23 AM > To: Glogger Steven > Subject: RE: RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed > > > I will be out of the office starting 22.05.2006 and will not > return until 05.06.2006. > > Your email will not be forwarded. I will respond to your > message when I return. > Please contact Nicolas Guillemenot +41 22 592 50 00 for any > urgent matters. > > Best Regards > > Grégoire Badel > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
so, something like http://www.mrmouse.ch/swinog-rss/ ? ,-) -steven > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hofer Ruedi > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:56 AM > To: swinog@swinog.ch > Subject: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed > > > Hi all > > What do you think of reading this mailing list as RSS feed? > Good/bad idea? > > I personally would very much favour this approach for the following > reasons: > - My inbox remains emptier/smaller > - No problems with auto replys which flood the whole list > - Only headers get downloaded automatically. This saves bandwidth. > > RSS clients are found in Firefox, Thunderbird. That means, > users have the necessary tools already installed! > > So, dear administrator, why not give it a try? Google, for > example, recommends this software on the server side: > http://jmason.org/software/scripts/mailman-archive-to-rss.txt > > Cheerio > Ruedi Hofer, Energy Water Berne > > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
> what about simply replacing the mailing list by a blog? ;-) > We could call it "swinog 2.0"... Then we would have rss as > wished by Ruedi, anti-spam and anti-autoresponder captcha > protection, etc. by an blog? are you insane!? well...at least we have a well-trained blog-chief aka rapido :) but we could also try to set up an own IPTV stream and each of us can ... ... ok, lets foget about that :) but some mailclients support also filtering and rules.. maybe this is also a solution for ruedi :) -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
sounds very complicating... > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olivier Mueller > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:44 AM > To: swinog@swinog.ch > Subject: RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed > > 'morning Steven & list, > > On Wed, 2006-05-31 at 09:17 +0200, Glogger Steven wrote: > > how do you answer to posts? ,-) > > for me RSS is not a solution for participating in a mailinglist. if > > you want to have read only access, it may be an > alternative... so you > > still need the mails ;-) > > what about simply replacing the mailing list by a blog? ;-) > We could call it "swinog 2.0"... Then we would have rss as > wished by Ruedi, anti-spam and anti-autoresponder captcha > protection, etc. > > But it would require moderators for the news topics... > > Have a nice (!= cold & rainy) day :) > Olivier > > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
hi ruedi > What do you think of reading this mailing list as RSS feed? > Good/bad idea? bad. how do you answer to posts? ,-) for me RSS is not a solution for participating in a mailinglist. if you want to have read only access, it may be an alternative... so you still need the mails ;-) > I personally would very much favour this approach for the following > reasons: > - My inbox remains emptier/smaller yes, you're right, we've got about 654'465'108 mails a year on this mailinglist ;-) makes sense ,-) > - No problems with auto replys which flood the whole list well, as i said: mail will remain, so auto reply's will remain ... > - Only headers get downloaded automatically. This saves bandwidth. i dont know, but i think bandwidth is not really a problem with that mailinglist, right? we're not (yet) at nanog's size ,) > So, dear administrator, why not give it a try? Google, for > example, recommends this software on the server side: > http://jmason.org/software/scripts/mailman-archive-to-rss.txt i think you're gladly invited to provide an RSS feed for those people which cannot live without it ;-) cheers -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] SwiNOG-BE37 - Beer Event 37 - 15th of May 06 @Pumpstation / Zurich Lake
dear swinogers the summer is coming and i hope to have great weather next monday... why? well.. 1st beer event at the lake? isn't that a good reason? i know, i'm a little bit late sending out invitations..but anyway.. ;-) some important words: == since we're reserving at the pumpstation, and officially we're not allowed to reserve any table there, we have to be really on time. i have to give up the remaining space around 18:45/18:50. so, if you're not punctional it might be that your seat is already gone and you'll organize a new seat by yourself... we've had some troubles with the restaurant last year because people came too late, we've had an almost empty table around for about an hour. this is bad for their business and this is bad for us (no reservations anymore...). if you're not sure if you'll be on time just drop a note to the comment field... the facts for the next event: - Date: 15th of May 2006 Time: starting around 18.30 o'clock Location: @lake in restaurant "Pumpstation" (see image; www.pumpstation.ch) On Bad weather (will be communicated the same day around noon) we go to the "Outback" Bahnhof Stadelhofen Registration deadline: 14.05.2006 12:00:00 Registration: - Please register here: http://swinog.mrmouse.ch/ Since we have to make reservations, i need to know who's coming and who not. If you cannot attend and you're registered please inform me asap. Important: If someone cannot find us: call me on my handy: 079 / 277 92 35 greetings -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] global crossing issue?
we have some customers complaining about connectivity issues to US websites.. see some flapping routes (e.g. for network solutions)... anyone knows about it? BGP routing table entry for 205.178.184.0/21, version 2075778 Paths: (2 available, no best path) Flag: 0x8A0 Not advertised to any peer 3549 3561 6245, (suppressed due to dampening) (history entry) 64.213.54.49 from 64.213.54.49 (67.17.80.142) Origin IGP, metric 10920, localpref 110, weight 32768, external Community: 3549:2292 3549:30840 12429:550 12429:1028 Dampinfo: penalty 2387, flapped 39 times in 01:14:31, reuse in 00:06:40 8190 1299 3561 6245 (history entry) 135.196.65.157 from 135.196.65.157 (135.196.64.9) Origin IGP, localpref 100, weight 32768, external Community: 8190:3 8190:133 12429:600 12429:1028 Dampinfo: penalty 275, flapped 16 times in 01:13:25 -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] SwiNOG-BE36 - Beer Event 36 - 10th of April 06 @ Restaurant Don Weber/Zurich
dear swinogers the next zurich beer event is becoming reality - next monday @ don weber ,-) the facts for the next event: - Date: 10th of April 2006 Time: starting around 18.30 o'clock Location: @ the "Don Weber" (Hardstrasse 316, Near TIX). see www.donweber.ch Registration deadline: 08.04.2006 14:00:00 Registration: - Please register here: http://swinog.mrmouse.ch/ Since we have to make reservations, i need to know who's coming and who not. If you cannot attend and you're registered - please drop an e-mail at least one day before. Important: If someone cannot find us: call me on my handy: 079 / 277 92 35 greetings -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] Robert Depenbrock
as some of you have known robert (from a beer event, from a peering e-mail, etc...) you might have some interest in the email below. greetings -steven From: Brigitte Depenbrock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 12:50 AMTo: Glogger StevenSubject: Robert Depenbrock Menschen, die man liebt, sind wie Sterne ; Sie können funkeln und leuchten noch lange nach ihrem Erlöschen. Immer sind irgendwo Spuren ihres Lebens - Gedanken, Bilder, Augenblicke und Gefühle Für uns alle völlig unerwartet und daher unfaßbar verstarb unser innig geliebter Sohn, mein lieber Bruder, unser Neffe und Cousin ROBERT DEPENBROCK " Acki " 7.Mai 1973 - 11.März 2006 im Alter von 32 Jahren in seiner Wahlheimat Blaustein bei Ulm In tiefem Schmerz Alfons und Brigitte Depenbrock Claudia Auffermann geb.Depenbrock Trauerhaus: Alfons Depenbrock, Fliederweg 12, 44575 Castrop-Rauxel Die Trauerfeier findet statt am Freitag, den 31. März 2006 um 11 Uhr in der Trauerhalle des Waldfriedhofes Bladenhorst, Eichenweg 22 ( Ortsteil Rauxel ). Anschließend erfolgt die Urnenbeisetzung. Von Beileidsbekundungen am Grab bitten wir Abstand zu nehmen. Statt zugedachter Kranz- oder Blumenspenden erbitten wir im Sinne von Robert um eine Spende an die Hospiz-Stiftung St. Elisabeth Sparkasse Vest Recklinghausen, BLZ 42650150 Konto-Nr. 14 ( Stichwort: Robert Depenbrock ) ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] microsoft ranges for windowsupdate
hi all i'm currently trying to figure out all ip addresses needed for windowsupdate. does someone has gotten once a complete list? i know that there is some akamai stuff in between.. :( currently i'm using that list (probably incomplete): 64.152.2.62/32 64.152.17.158 64.4.20.0/22 131.107.115.28/32 195.50.96.94/32 207.46.18.94/32 207.46.18.0/23 207.46.20.0/2 207.46.157.0/24 207.46.192.0/18 208.175.188.61 208.172.48.222/32 212.73.245.62 212.162.0.30/32 212.187.162.158/32 213.19.160.190/32 213.200.96.0/22 213.200.100.0/24 213.249.102.94/32 213.254.235.30/32 213.254.241.62 -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] GPRS Problem @ Swisscom
is it really broken? i've just tested to download with my mobile: Mar 16 09:57:48 imapd[12077]: login: gprs01.swisscom-mobile.ch[193.247.250.1] same on mobile: the 'G' is showing up... -steven > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcel Stutz > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 9:56 AM > To: swinog@swinog.ch > Subject: [swinog] GPRS Problem @ Swisscom > > > *** PGP SIGNATURE VERIFICATION *** > *** Status: Unknown Signature > *** Signer: Unknown Key (0x7E016902) > *** Signed: 16.03.2006 09:56:02 > *** Verified: 16.03.2006 09:58:00 > *** BEGIN PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE *** > > Hi to all, > > Do anyone have more information about the GPRS Outage from > Swisscom as the Marketing blah blah on 0800 55 64 64. > > We have Customer ther say thet GPRS is Brocken since > Yesterday Night ~22.00 Clock und still Swisscom has no > Information On any webside. Ther Say only we work on it but > no time frame and no Information for Customer how long the > outage will Be still. > > > Mit freundlichen Grüssen > > Marcel Stutz > Netzwerk & Unix Administrator > > -- > | > Genotec Internet Consulting AG | E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hegenheimermattweg 119a | Website : http://www.genotec.ch > CH - 4123 Allschwil | >Schweiz | > | Zentrale: +41 61 487 99 99 > --- | Fax : +41 61 487 99 98 > | Support : 0848 321 123 > easy[hosting] | > 500 MB, unl.Pointings, | > Subdomains und E-mails,| Supportanfragen bitte immer an > Internetzugang und mehr| [EMAIL PROTECTED] > SFr. 150/Jahr | Web: http://support.genotec.ch > | > -- > > > > *** END PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE *** > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] [RFC] Automatic holiday monitoring tool
if you want to do this job - just doit ;-) i can provide you the mails of the last 12 months ,-) but i will not filter out what is vacation ,-.) -steven > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tonnerre LOMBARD > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 9:23 AM > To: swinog@swinog.ch > Subject: [swinog] [RFC] Automatic holiday monitoring tool > > Salut, > > Since we receive a bunch of out-of-office replies on every > post to swinog, why not use it for something useful? This is > what I came up with. > > The german c't magazine is publishing an annual survey of IT > related jobs with regard to income and working conditions. We > could now monitor the amount of holidays taken per swinog > user and match it to their profession, so we get a clear > survey of how many holidays people may take if they have a > certain title. > > For the technical implementation part, it would suffice to > install a mail filter on the mail servers of the most active > swinog posters. This filter would automatically authenticate > cryptographically to an interface and send the name of the > person it received an out-of-office reply from. The interface > would then deduce that this person is on a holiday, and > update its statistics. > > This is valuable information! Maybe we should all > misconfigure our /usr/libexec/vacation in order to get better results. > > Tonnerre > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] swinog-12?
sounds good to me. if there is any box for wishlists: it would be interesting to have again IFPI (mr. beat högger, 'game over') and netmon gmbh (netmon.ch) with us to show us what is the strategy and the current situation in switzerland. and netmon to show us technically how they operate and to give us a technically detailled view of their work. probably mr. christian schwarz and DBA/uvek would be the right person to have also someone from legal/official side. this presentation + talk would probably take one half day ,-) -steven > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernet, Nicole > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 9:19 AM > To: swinog@swinog.ch > Subject: AW: [swinog] swinog-12? > > good morning swinogers, > > yes, we are in the planning phase for swinog-12, but we have > decided to postpone the swinog-12 to a later date - maybe > may/june.. (no date has been defined as of yet). > > we will keep you all updated shortly. > > Cheers and wishing you all a good day - nicole > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Glogger Steven > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. März 2006 09:05 > An: swinog@swinog.ch > Betreff: [swinog] swinog-12? > > hi there > > just wondering... april is normally swinog-time ,-) is there > already some planning for swinog-12 going on? > > -steven > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] swinog-12?
hi there just wondering... april is normally swinog-time ,-) is there already some planning for swinog-12 going on? -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] Cablecom Routing/Peering changes?
problem is fixed. tix-2 was on speed auto/duplex auto. it's now fixed by ix europe - looks now good ,-) -steven > -Original Message- > From: Glogger Steven > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 9:27 AM > To: 'swinog@swinog.ch' > Subject: RE: [swinog] Cablecom Routing/Peering changes? > > duplex problems on switch? let fredy check what results he > gets when he pings cablecom directly... > > -steven > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike > Kellenberger > > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 9:25 AM > > To: swinog@swinog.ch > > Subject: [swinog] Cablecom Routing/Peering changes? > > > > Hi all > > > > Our office is connected via VPN through Cablecom Highspeed > > (62.2.230.80) to Init7 (82.197.163.110). Last Thursday, we > had a short > > interruption and since then throughput is really bad. > > > > Fredy Kuenzler said, the interruption was due to peering changes of > > Cablecom to Init7. > > > > I'm trying to find out where the problem is, maybe someone here can > > help me out. > > > > A trace shows this: > > > > Tracing route to r1escape.cpe.init7.net [82.197.163.110] over a > > maximum of 30 hops: > > > > 1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms 192.168.10.1 > > 2 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms 62-2-80-229.business.cablecom.ch > > [62.2.80.229] > > 312 ms11 ms11 ms 10.219.224.1 > > 413 ms13 ms13 ms > tengig-11-0.blxOTF001.gw.cablecom.net > > [62.2.33.5 > > ] > > 514 ms13 ms13 ms > tengig-11-0.blxOTF001.gw.cablecom.net > > [62.2.33.5 > > ] > > 616 ms15 ms37 ms 194.42.48.10 > > 715 ms15 ms17 ms r9.core.init7.net [213.144.128.9] > > 819 ms17 ms16 ms r1escape.cpe.init7.net > > [82.197.163.110] > > > > Pings up to 62.2.33.5 are fine, pinging 194.42.48.10 (TIX) > and further > > reveal sporadic timeouts... > > > > Any help is appreciated! > > > > Regards, > > > > Mike > > > > -- > > Mike Kellenberger > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Escapenet - the Web Company Tel +41 > 52 235 0700 > > http://www.escapenet.ch Fax +41 > 52 235 0701 > > ___ > > swinog mailing list > > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] Cablecom Routing/Peering changes?
duplex problems on switch? let fredy check what results he gets when he pings cablecom directly... -steven > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Kellenberger > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 9:25 AM > To: swinog@swinog.ch > Subject: [swinog] Cablecom Routing/Peering changes? > > Hi all > > Our office is connected via VPN through Cablecom Highspeed > (62.2.230.80) to Init7 (82.197.163.110). Last Thursday, we > had a short interruption and since then throughput is really bad. > > Fredy Kuenzler said, the interruption was due to peering > changes of Cablecom to Init7. > > I'm trying to find out where the problem is, maybe someone > here can help me out. > > A trace shows this: > > Tracing route to r1escape.cpe.init7.net [82.197.163.110] over > a maximum of 30 hops: > > 1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms 192.168.10.1 > 2 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms 62-2-80-229.business.cablecom.ch > [62.2.80.229] > 312 ms11 ms11 ms 10.219.224.1 > 413 ms13 ms13 ms tengig-11-0.blxOTF001.gw.cablecom.net > [62.2.33.5 > ] > 514 ms13 ms13 ms tengig-11-0.blxOTF001.gw.cablecom.net > [62.2.33.5 > ] > 616 ms15 ms37 ms 194.42.48.10 > 715 ms15 ms17 ms r9.core.init7.net [213.144.128.9] > 819 ms17 ms16 ms r1escape.cpe.init7.net > [82.197.163.110] > > Pings up to 62.2.33.5 are fine, pinging 194.42.48.10 (TIX) > and further reveal sporadic timeouts... > > Any help is appreciated! > > Regards, > > Mike > > -- > Mike Kellenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Escapenet - the Web Company Tel +41 52 235 0700 > http://www.escapenet.ch Fax +41 52 235 0701 > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] Cisco parts for sale..
and what do you want to express with that? ,-)
we're talking about nonsense here... homework: count all words of this thread
and leave out signatures, UTF-8 encoded words, etc. ;-)
-steven
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fullin, Marco
> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 2:27 PM
> To: swinog@swinog.ch
> Subject: RE: [swinog] Cisco parts for sale..
>
>
> Sorry guys, only in german:
>
>
> Die 10 Gebote Gottes enthalten 279 Wörter, die amerikanische
> Unabhängigkeitserklärung 300 Wörter, die Verordnung der
> Europäischen Gemeinschaft über den Import von Karamellbonbons
> aber exakt 25911 Wörter !!!
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fredy Kuenzler
> Sent: Freitag, 3. März 2006 14:14
> To: swinog@swinog.ch
> Subject: Re: [swinog] Cisco parts for sale..
>
>
> Jim Romaguera schrieb:
> >> So what are the rules now?
> >>
> >> If the list "knows" someone he can sell stuff, if he's
> "unknown" he
> >> can't?
> >
> > maybe something like...
> >
> > If someone is a member of the swinog mailing list (i.e. a member of
> > the swinog community) then it's ok.
>
> I might add as long selling / buying is occasional and not on
> a commercial / trading basis, and the seller / buyer is
> member of the SwiNOG community, then it's ok.
>
> F.
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RE: [swinog] ripe ip query bot via jabber
well, my command line whois client is enough for me ,-) i'm a shell user ;-) what's the advantage of a jabber client? does he support the ripe flags? (-r, -M, -l, -i origin, etc?) -steven > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marco Balmer > Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 1:00 PM > To: swinog@swinog.ch > Subject: RE: [swinog] ripe ip query bot via jabber > > Hello @ all > > > not xml, but you may use the ripe database (whois). > > http://www.ripe.net/db/index.html > > This is the bot jid: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Test it and let me know. > > Cheers > Marco > > -- > http://web.swissjabber.ch xmpp: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] ripe ip query bot via jabber
not xml, but you may use the ripe database (whois). http://www.ripe.net/db/index.html -steven > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marco Balmer > Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 11:51 AM > To: swinog@swinog.ch > Subject: [swinog] ripe ip query bot via jabber > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I would like to write an ip address query bot for the jabber network. > Is there an xml-interface for ripe.net available? > > Thx for infos > Marco > > -- > http://web.swissjabber.ch xmpp: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] good and bad blacklists?
well, spamcop is something you might have to reconsider... too much crap ;-) use it only for additional spamassassin scoring... -steven > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marco Balmer > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 11:29 AM > To: swinog@swinog.ch > Subject: [swinog] good and bad blacklists? > > Hello, > > Has everyone experiences with good and bad blacklists for > mail-servers? > > For the moment I use the following three: > relays.ordb.org > sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org > bl.spamcop.net > > Thx > Marco > > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] SwiNOG-BE34 - Beer Event 34 - 6th of February 06 @ Restaurant Outback/Zurich
hi all here we go for the next beer event in zurich. unfortunately it seems to be the last beer event for roger schmid aka phunny, the next day he's flying to start business in another corner of this world. so, i hope we're getting a lot of people to join the party. the facts for the next event: - Date: 6th of February 2006 Time: starting around 18.30 o'clock Location: @ the "Outback" Bahnhof Stadelhofen Registration deadline: 04.02.2006 20:00:00 Registration: - Please register here: http://swinog.mrmouse.ch/ Since we have to make reservations, i need to know who's coming and who not. If you cannot attend and you're registered - please drop an e-mail at least one day before. Important: If someone cannot find us: call me on my handy: 079 / 277 92 35 greetings -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] sdsl + isdn backup
hi all i'm just wondering what you guys are using for bbcs sdsl lines for which customers are ordering also isdn backup. currently we're using for cheaper solutions a zyxel 791/792 with an external isdn TA (omni.net D/omni.net lite) and as a a more expensive solution a modular cisco router with isdn and sdsl wic. since the zyxels always making troubles - we've found more than 2 serious bugs - and zyxel forgets sometimes to fix those bugs in new firmwares and new models we're looking for a completely new solution. are there on the market any devices which we're able to use for the swisscom bbcs service and which have a built-in isdn backup interface? ... and are below the price of ciscos... ;-) greetings -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] SwiNOG-BE33 - Beer Event 33 - 16th of January 06 @ Restaurant Don Weber/Zurich
hi all hope that every slipped well into 2006. i'm proud to announce the next beer event: the facts for the next event: - Date: 16th of January 2006 Time: starting around 18.30 o'clock Location: @ the "Don Weber" (Hardstrasse 316, Near TIX). It's between the Escher-Wys Platz and the Cinemax. Registration deadline: 14.01.2006 12:00:00 Registration: - Please register here: http://swinog.mrmouse.ch/ Since we have to make reservations, i need to know who's coming and who not. If you cannot attend and you're registered - please drop an e-mail at least one day before. Important: If someone cannot find us: call me on my handy: 079 / 277 92 35 greetings -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: Re: [swinog] Cablecom Internet Port 25
hi xaver frag doch mal direkt bei cablecom nach. die sollten es doch eigentlich direkt beantworten können :) -steven > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 2:28 PM > To: swinog@swinog.ch > Subject: Re: Re: [swinog] Cablecom Internet Port 25 > > Tja das hat leider auch diverse Probleme. So bleiben die > Mails in diversen Spamfiltern hangen. Einerseits weil der CC > Server in einigen Blacklisten ist. 2. Da der Absendercheck > nicht stimmt. Deshalb müssten die Kunden über unseren Server > senden. Das mit dem smtp von CC gibt mehr ärger als einem lieb ist... > > Gruss Xaver > At Fri, 23 Dec 2005 14:00:57 +0100, you wrote: > > > >jawohl.. den smtp von CC verwenden, alles andere soll eh nicht sein > ;-) > > > >schoene weihnachten > > > >Roger > > > > > >-- Original Message -- > >From: "Xaver Aerni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: swinog@swinog.ch > >Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 14:00:54 +0100 > > > >>Hallo, > >>Ich stell die Frage schnell auf Deutsch. > >>Hat die Cablecom den Ausgang auf f=FCr SMTP raus neu gesperrt. Wir > haben > >>diverse Hispeed Kunden, die Mails nicht mehr per SMTP =FCber unsere > Server= > > > >>senden k=F6nnen. Zur Zeit sind es 3 Reklamationen alles CC Kunden > >>(Cabelmodem). Andere Kunden ADSL haben keine Probleme. > >> > >>Sollte dies der Fall sein, gibt es irgendwelche Work Orrounds??? > >>Gruss Xaver > >> > >>Xaver Aerni > >>Xariffusion Informatik & Telecom > >>Z=FCrichstrasse 10a > >>8340 Hinwil > >>Tel. 043 843 78 78 > >>Fax 043 843 78 70 > >> > >> > >>___ > >>swinog mailing list > >>swinog@lists.swinog.ch > >>http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > >> > > > > > > > >__ __ __ __ Sent via > >the WebMail system at mgz.ch > > > > > > > > > > > >___ > >swinog mailing list > >swinog@lists.swinog.ch > >http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
AW: [swinog] IXEurope power loss
sorry, just saw that i got a wrong message. it was only IXE1 affected. -steven Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] im Auftrag von Glogger Steven Gesendet: Do 22.12.2005 07:18 An: swinog@swinog.ch Betreff: AW: [swinog] IXEurope power loss even IXE2 was affected. both have as far as i know a generator... -steven Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] im Auftrag von Michel Renfer Gesendet: Do 22.12.2005 07:05 An: swinog@swinog.ch Betreff: RE: [swinog] IXEurope power loss There was a power outage in the city area of Zurich... But why was IXE1 affected? Generator? h cheers, michel ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog <>___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
AW: [swinog] IXEurope power loss
even IXE2 was affected. both have as far as i know a generator... -steven Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] im Auftrag von Michel Renfer Gesendet: Do 22.12.2005 07:05 An: swinog@swinog.ch Betreff: RE: [swinog] IXEurope power loss There was a power outage in the city area of Zurich... But why was IXE1 affected? Generator? h cheers, michel ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog <>___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
AW: [swinog] IXEurope power loss
no, both telehouse were affected. did you listen to radio 24 ? they dont send at all :) i'm asking myself why the diesel didn't work. -steven Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] im Auftrag von A. Uk / dataway GmbH Gesendet: Do 22.12.2005 06:54 An: swinog@swinog.ch Betreff: [swinog] IXEurope power loss Was it just me or was the IXEurope 1 power supply this morning perhaps not quite as carrier grade as one might have hoped? anthony ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog <>___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] Cablecom blockages out of control?
> Ask Felix Giger or Marc Amman. As far as I know they returned > safely from the BE in November. But to be honest: you will > have to deal with the annoying comments from the other techies... ;-) yes, they returned safely @home ;-) but you have to spend at least 50 rounds of beer *just joking* ,-) would be nice to see more participation from cablecom ... -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] Cablecom blockages out of control?
> By the way, my friend told me, that once he got a different > job, he'd visit a beer event, but does not dare to as a CC > admin because of the bad reputation of the company. =:-)) he's always invited to join up the beer event. but if he signs up he's supposed to come or to drop a mail that he's not coming. we will not lynch any cablecom guys ,-) -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] cost of class-C IP block
hi umbi > so can anyone tell me how much 255 public IP addresses would > approximately cost? well, ip addresses don't cost anything. i assume that you want get PI space ,-) you may charge an administrative fee for all the administrative purposes. it takes some time to fill in all the required forms and write the request. some providers are requesting money for this efford (it can take up to several hours of work - depending how much you want and now many questions RIPE will send to the provider - if something is bad). normally, if you switch your network and ask for own ip space some providers are doing this for free (included in setup fee for connectivity or so). so, lets say the price is from 0.- to several hundreds or thousands ;-) greetings -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] Cablecom blockages out of control
> Fax? Actually, some nice person there gave me Christians phonenumber. > And you should update the number in the pdf/doc. The person > listed as "fax" definitly isn't, and definitly is not a > technical contact ;) well, unfortunately i cannot change this ;-) but i'm sure someone from this list is able to update those values ;-) -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] Cablecom blockages out of control
you mean blocked by e-mail? or on based on ip? you might contact cablecom via inoc db phone ,-) -steven > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Keel > Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 3:20 PM > To: SwiNOG > Subject: [swinog] Cablecom blockages out of control > > Hello > > Seems our whole range was blocked by Cablecom -- as Dialup-Range. > Well, we have none. zero. zilch. No dialups. No dynamic IPs at all. > > Anyone from Cablecom here to care to comment & fix? > > Cheers > Seegras > -- > Those who give up essential liberties for temporary safety > deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages
well, what is the real problem?
when i read that only business customers are affected, not private i suppose
that swisscom is routing business customers to (one or more) other lns of
sunrise.
is the interconnection between sunrise and swisscom broken? if yes: normally
traffic is rerouted to some redundant system (in this case probably lausanne).
is the backbone to lausanne too small? capacity problems? planning faults?
dear sunrise, tell us what is happening in detail ,-) everyone would like to
learn from mistakes ;-)
-steven
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Güntensperger, Robert
> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 4:22 PM
> To: swinog@swinog.ch
> Subject: RE: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages
>
> Thanks for the flowers!
>
> G.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fredy Kuenzler
> > Sent: Dienstag, 6. Dezember 2005 16:19
> > To: swinog@swinog.ch
> > Subject: Re: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages
> >
> > Viktor Steinmann wrote:
> > > Well - don't know, how many of your read the jobs.ch
> > jobmail, but if
> > > you do, you have probably noticed, that sunrise is looking for
> > > experienced network engineers for a long time now... I
> guess, they
> > > don't have a technical, but a HR problem ;-)
> > >
> > > Too bad, their offices are in the totally wrong place (from
> > my point
> > > of view (which is of course the middle of nowhere ("Säuliamt")))
> >
> > http://www.sunrise.ch/uebersunrise/medien/medienmitteilungen/a
> > rchiv-suche/medienmitteilungendetailliert.htm?medid=11649
> >
> > > Fachleute von sunrise und dem Lieferanten arbeiten mit Hochdruck
> > > daran, die Störung zu beheben.
> >
> > I wonder if there are any "Fachleute" left except Günti ;-P
> >
> > Implementation cycles at Sunrise are now > 3 weeks for a 30 minutes
> > BGP4 configuration job.
> >
> > F.
> >
> > (P.S. Sunrise if you need some freelance "Fachleute" - this list is
> > probably the place to hire)
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RE: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages
ooh.. christian has switched over to swisscom without saying something? ,-)
-steven
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 3:52 PM
> To: swinog@swinog.ch
> Subject: RE: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages
>
> No comment...
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Viktor
> Steinmann
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 3:50 PM
> > To: swinog@swinog.ch
> > Subject: Re: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages
> >
> > Well - don't know, how many of your read the jobs.ch
> jobmail, but if
> > you do, you have probably noticed, that sunrise is looking for
> > experienced network engineers for a long time now... I guess, they
> > don't have a technical, but a HR problem ;-)
> >
> > Too bad, their offices are in the totally wrong place (from
> my point
> > of view (which is of course the middle of nowhere
> > ("Säuliamt")))
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Viktor
> >
> > Zitat von Xaver Aerni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > > Sunrise has sayed, one of the two Routers are completly
> down... I'm
> > > wondering that sunrise only has two routers in Switzerland.
> > One in Zürich...
> > > it was today down... and one in Lausanne...
> > > I think Sunrise has a big problem with the rednunance of
> > their system
> > > Only two Possiblety and if one is down, they couldent
> > route all the
> > > traffic to the other router...
> >
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RE: [swinog] Checkpoint Flaw
hi stony > Basically they say, that one would need admin privileges on > windows to exploit that. So they suggest, that we ask > everyone to not use admin rights. well, they're right. internet would be so safe if no one would use admin rights - much more better: no one should use computers at all. no computer = no internet = no spam = no cybercrime = no amazon/ebay/skype/google/ anyway, things will change in release 8 or 9 ;-) -steven > > Funny... let's ask hackers to not use admin rights. That > would make the internet a safer place :-) > > Cheers, > Viktor > > Zitat von Viktor Steinmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Hi all > > > > We've found a flaw in the Checkpoint SecureClient NGX, > which makes it > > a "not-really-secure Client"... > > > > Does anyone on this list have a direct contact to > Checkpoint Quality > > Control, so I don't have to go the long and hard way of > explaining the > > flaw to 10 different people at our reseller...? If yes, > tell them to > > contact me offlist, please. > > > > (I will of course open a case at our reseller anyway, just > to prove, > > that resellers are usually not very helpful in very technical > > cases...) :-) > > > > Cheers, > > Viktor > > > > ___ > > swinog mailing list > > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > > > > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] *SPECIAL* SwiNOG-BE32 - Fondue-Beer Even t 32 - 5th of December @ Le Dézaley / ZH
hi all well, this snowy weather outside reminds me, that i would like to eat a fondue. what a nice idea for an beer/fondue/cheese event ;-) i read (on irc) that some guests from germany will only come for that fondue event to switzerland - well, let's see ;-) the facts for the next event: - Date: 5th of December 2005 Time: starting around 18.30 o'clock Location: @ Le Dézaley (in the 'Dörfli') (see image on registrations page) or http://www.le-dezaley.ch/en/images/karte_gross.jpg Menu-Card: http://www.le-dezaley.ch/en/speisekarte.htm (see the 'fondue'-section. but you're allowed also to take other things than fondue ;-)) Registration deadline: 02.12.2005 19:00:00 Registration: - Please register here: http://swinog.mrmouse.ch/ ! ! ! ! ! Since we have to make reservations, i need to know who's coming and who not. If you cannot attend and you're registered - please drop an e-mail. ! ! ! ! ! Important: If someone cannot find us: call me on my handy: 079 / 277 92 35 greetings -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] ns1.ip-plus.net out of service ?
>status: REFUSED they don't allow anymore? but their nameserver works (at least internally)... http://www.ipplus.net/tools/dig_dns_set.de.html -steven > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Blapp > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 5:07 PM > To: swinog@swinog.ch > Subject: [swinog] ns1.ip-plus.net out of service ? > > > Hi all, > > Since a few days we see strange errors, some websites aren't > working properly due to resolving problems @swisscom ... > > All domains with ns1.ip-plus.net as nameserver aren't working > currently ... > > -bash-2.05b# dig @ns1.ip-plus.net swisscom.com > > ; <<>> DiG 9.3.1 <<>> @ns1.ip-plus.net swisscom.com ; (1 > server found) ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: REFUSED, id: 42826 ;; > flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 > > ;; QUESTION SECTION: > ;swisscom.com. IN A > > -bash-2.05b# dig @ns1.ip-plus.net karger.com > > ; <<>> DiG 9.3.1 <<>> @ns1.ip-plus.net karger.com ; (1 server > found) ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: REFUSED, id: 56384 ;; > flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 > > ;; QUESTION SECTION: > ;karger.com.IN A > > ;; Query time: 136 msec > ;; SERVER: 164.128.36.34#53(164.128.36.34) ;; WHEN: Wed Nov > 9 17:05:33 2005 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 28 > > Can anybody at swisscom look at this problem ? > > Martin > > Martin Blapp, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -- > ImproWare AG, UNIXSP & ISP, Zurlindenstrasse 29, 4133 Pratteln, CH > Phone: +41 61 826 93 00 Fax: +41 61 826 93 01 > PGP: > PGP Fingerprint: B434 53FC C87C FE7B 0A18 B84C 8686 EF22 D300 551E > -- > > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] Where to buy (new) Cisco?
hmm.. there are some resellers: - also abc (www.alsoabc.com) - techdata (www.techdata.ch) - ingram (www.ingram.ch) probably there are more of them ;-) greetings -steven > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoran Brakus > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 2:48 PM > To: swinog@swinog.ch > Subject: [swinog] Where to buy (new) Cisco? > > Hi, > > can you please recommend some Cisco reseller in CH (German > speaking area)? Nothing special, just a decent pre-sales > support and fair prices. > > Thanx > > -- > Zoran Brakus > > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] SwiNOG-BE31 - Beer Event 31 - 14th of November @ Restaurant Lily's/Zurich
hi all well, i'm quite late for the next beer event - i know this! :-) we're trying a new place this time - you like beer and asian food? well, then join up :) unfortunately their homepage is quite crap (www.lilys.ch) but i found the dinner card from basel - but zurich has quite the same: http://www.lilys.ch/fileadmin/Dateien/Dokumente/speisek_bs_jan_2005.pdf the facts for the next event: - Date: 14th of November 2005 Time: starting around 18.30 o'clock Location: @ the "Lily's Stomach Supply" near HB/Langstrasse (see image on registrations page) or http://map.search.ch/8005-zuerich/langstr.-197 Registration deadline: 12.09.2005 23:59:00 Registration: - Please register here: http://swinog.mrmouse.ch/ Since we have to make reservations, i need to know who's coming and who not. If you cannot attend and you're registered - please drop an e-mail. Important: If someone cannot find us: call me on my handy: 079 / 277 92 35 greetings -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] interesting ... how spamming works...
hi there while analysing some bogus stuff i found out, that some strange requests where going to: http://wm.maxysearch.info/cgi-bin5/repeaterm.fcgi?n=5&lastid= http://maxysearch.info/gallery20081/xpsystem/rxs.ini.php http://traff-store.com/gallery20081/xpsystem/rxs.ini.php especially the first link is very interesting. it generates (random?) e-mail adresses and the spamming text... and also some nonworking (anymore) links: http://maxysearch.info/gallery20081/xpsystem/rxs.ini.php http://clickonseek.com/gallery20081/xpsystem/rxs.ini.php http://www.student.ru.nl/markjansen/g2/bazooka.php?get=1&hostfile=1&net= gnutella2&client=RAZA&version=2.2.0.0 http://twopi.no-ip.org/g2/bazooka.php?get=1&hostfile=1&net=gnutella2&cli ent=RAZA&version=2.2.0.0 http://rssfed23.angeltowns.com/g2/bazooka.php?get=1&hostfile=1&net=gnute lla2&client=RAZA&version=2.2.0.0 what do you think about this? lets autogenerate filters? :-) -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
OT: blogging (was: [swinog] WEKO versus Swis scom regarding ADSL: Verfügung online)
hi fredy it's nice to see that you have started now a successful career in the journalism and politics. s "..thanks for using the blogg2swinog mailgateway for updating my links..." sorry freddy, but don't you think you can write normal e-mails to the mailinglist or do you just keep on pasting links? are you so keen to push your motz-blogg on top of the google ranking? i think, people who wants to read your blogg will do - and people who don't want will not. there was a nice invention some time ago called RSS-feeds. i personally thought at the beginning: well, a nice blogg to cover the interests of the swiss internet community. but now i have to admit, that it seems that this is your personal newsletter to gruble against everyone (aka enemies - i mean 'public' enemies). we all know now that you don't like sunrise, swisscom, cablecom, solnet, etc. to take out a short statistic from the last 20 entries of your blog: - 1 positive message (wimax) - 1 neutral message (swinog #11 - ok, we're all alkies ;-)) - 1 ad (multihomed; it's your right - it's your blog :)) - 15 motz, complain and information about swisscom/sunrise/cablecom/switch/etc. - 2 informations about (possible) bankrupties (comparis.ch/webspace4you) the one really funny entry i remember was the one with the broken /dev/null device. so, please keep in mind that blog's are more or less personal diaries. if you want to really discuss swiss network stuff please use the mailinglist - i will not use your blogg for discussing internet/swinog related topics. so, this is just my personal opinion (and i told you this already some weeks ago whereupon you wrote the /dev/null-thing; this means that my opinion has nothing to do with the fact that cybernet has bought by swisscom). -steven > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fredy Kuenzler > Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:10 PM > To: swinog@swinog.ch > Subject: [swinog] WEKO versus Swisscom regarding ADSL: > Verfügung online > > The WEKO paper (Verfügung) is now ready for download: > http://www.blogg.ch/index.php?/archives/147-WEKO-Verfuegung-in > -Sachen-ADSL-gegen-Swisscom-im-Wortlaut.html > (German) > > F. > > > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] THANK YOU!
yes, also from my side a big thank you for all of the speakers, sponsors, organisators and contributors! -steven btw: who won something from mci? :) who got the 2 weeks holidays all inclusive on hawaii? ,-) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Baumann > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 9:58 AM > To: swinog@swinog.ch > Subject: [swinog] THANK YOU! > > I just want to say THANK YOU SwiNOG for the Meeting yesterday. > > It was really very informative and fun! > > > THANK YOU also to the Sponsors of the Meeting! > > > > Peter B. > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] SwiNOG # 11
hi pascal > Perhaps you missed some precedent mails, but... > > !! > !!! SwiNOG#11 registration is open !!! > !! hum... i never got an e-mail for the registration. saw by hazard that we could register :) is there any preview of the agenda already available? -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] SwiNOG-BE30 - Beer Event 30 - 3th of October @ Restaurant Outback / Zurich
hi all october event is coming. it seems to be a little bit rainy and cold - so, lets move the beer event to a warmer place ... so move it to australia ... to the outback. ok, now something serious: hey all the cablecom guys! PLEASE REGISTER ONLY IF YOU COME! IF YOU DONT COME PLEASE DROP A MAIL! IF YOU'RE NOT SURE: don't think about registering. i was quite pissed last time of some guys, registering and not coming. the restaurant looses money, and our nerves are quite struggling all the time for keeping the seats. but as far as we know is is quite a common behaviour for cablecom guys... the facts for the next event: Date: 3th of October 2005 Time: starting around 18.30 o'clock Location: @ the "Outback" Bahnhof Stadelhofen (see image on registratino page) Registration deadline: 30.09.2005 23:59:00 Link for registration http://swinog.mrmouse.ch/ Important: If someone cannot find us: call me on my handy: 079 / 277 92 35 greetings -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] SMS-Gateway
hi stefan > - check if the mobile of the poor tech that gets the message > that his server is eg. on fire ;), really received the > message and if not, sending it again or sending it to another tech well, i don't know if this works. you would have to parse the 'sendebestätigung'. i'm not sure if external services like minick are giving this feedback. if you use your own infrastructure there is the possiblity. > - maybe sending sms to customers do you really want to do this? :) well..depenting on your configuration whom you send sms to. > - sort of security (not everyone should be able to send email > to the gateway) you might filter this out on your mail (relay-)server or on the incoming edge of the sms-gateway (e.g. with a password). > - a simple network monitor tool which pings the servers that > should be running and if there's no communication, send an sms look at nagios or any other network monitor tool. all of them support notification by email (and then your email2sms gateway will do the rest ,-)) > - maybe two way sms gateway (tech. could send a ping with his > mobile, could aknowledge a error message, and so on) don't be complicated. use nagios (or $yourfavoritemonitoringtool), buy a nice mobile with integrated ssh/telnet tool and save the spare time to enjoy an evening at the lake ;-) > Do you have any recommentions, which tool and/or hardware to > use for this issue? > Do you have any expirience with such tools? you should have a look at nagios (http://www.nagios.org/) and use either a connected gsm phone to the server or use one of the many gsm gateways there are (ipplus sms service/only for ip+ customers; minick; etc..) -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] SwiNOG-BE29 - Beer Event 29 - 5th of September @ Restaurant Pumpstation @ Lake / Zurich
hi all so, since berne had a beer-event the zurich-and-working-nearby-guys and girls are greedy for some beer ,-) (of course everyone is invited to join us just sign up). so, i hope the weather will be good so we can enjoy a nice place, a nice view and of course a good ambiance. now to the facts: Date: 5th of September 2005 Time: starting around 18.30 o'clock Location: @lake in restaurant "Pumpstation" (see image; www.pumpstation.ch) On Bad weather (will be communicated before noon) we go to the "Johanniter". It's about 50m from the Starbucks at the Central in direction to the Bellevue. Just walk from the Central/Starbucks thru the Drfli. Registration deadline: 02.09.2005 16:00 Link for registration http://swinog.mrmouse.ch/ Important: If someone cannot find us: call me on my handy: 079 / 277 92 35 greetings -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] Auskunft Polizei
moin, > Dann würde ich keine Auskunft geben. darfst du aus datenschutzgründen sowieso nicht. die müssten ein rechtshilfebegehren bei der schweiz stellen, und dann dürftest du via UVEK/richter/whatever nen offiziellen zettel kriegen, wo du deine daten eintragen darfst (resp. wo steht, was du zu tun hast). ansonsten musst du gar nix. -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
AW: [swinog] future of dls
> What does the V in VDSL stand vor anyway? Video? Virtual? Venty? very high bit-rate DSL :-) -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] *SPECIAL* SwiNOG-BE28 - BBQ/Beer Event 28 - 8th of August @ Oerlikerpark
hi all last time the weather was not good ;-( i hope that this time we will have a fantastic weather and can enjoy the next tryout of our BBQ event. we go again for this BBQ event Oerlikerpark (near Center Eleven / Zurich Oerlikon). Link for registration http://swinog.mrmouse.ch/ please read the whole e-mail - there are some important informations :) when is it? 8th of august at around 18.30 - until.. well..open end ;) Registration deadline: 08.08.2005 12:00:00 ok, the registration deadline is kind of obsolete. anyone who wants to come just comes. we have enough space ,-) (but for the restaurant in case of bad weather it's quite important) what to food / drink? --- quite simple: what you bring with you is what you can eat and drink. some ppl are sponsoring some things, but don't rely on that. we will have some grills and some place to seat. i will sponsor some charcoal and bring again some one-way-usable-trow-away grills. and for sure i'll bring the little ventilator ;-) (thanks to roman ;-)) i heard that some guys wants to sponsor some beer ;-) roger will bring a tent... so, if you register and you want to contribute something for others please note it to the "COMMENTS" field when registering. this is very helpful for others to know, that to bring ;-) this could be: - beer - some hot sauces (venty?) - chips & snacks - good mood - bread - desserts - salads - etc.. where is it? - http://www.gis.zh.ch/gb4/zvv/zvv.asp?zvv=ja&hst=0103789 it's in the 'Oerlikerpark' near Center Eleven / Zurich Oerlikon. with the bus 64 or 75 from bahnhof oerlikon until 'Bollingerweg'. or you come with the bus number 80 until 'Birchstrasse' and then walk behind the credit suisse building. ith the car you might park in the Parkhaus Octavo (in the CS building) or in he near of the center eleven (coop; 5min away and has open until 20.00). see pictures on http://gallery.glogger.ch/swinogbe16 problems (!!!): --- there is NO public toilet in the near. so please consider this before leaving for the BE ,-) there might be some toilets walking some minutes around ;-) if there is (very) bad weather: if the weather is very bad on that date we would move to the 'Johanniter' in the 'Döfli'. i' make an email until 12:00 about the change. If someone cannot find us: call me on my handy: 079 / 277 92 35 greetings -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
AW: AW: [swinog] future of dsl
hi olivier > Idea: Let's say I have a "standard" (600/100) flatrate adsl > account from ISP A at home, and the Sunrise 150 flex > somewhere else (holiday house, chalet, grandparents, etc.). > Will it still work if I just configure the sunrise adsl line > with the login/pw information of ISP A ? (assuming I turn > off the router at home). i suppose swisscom will change that in the near future. so, don't do such a thing ,-) > I guess it would work (but of course still at 150/50), but > what about the 20MB limitation? Who is doing the accounting work: > Swisscom or Sunrise, or both? swisscom does some per-ISP accounting - because they deliver the whole traffic to $ISP. and sunrise has also to do per-user accounting, to send the bill... -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
AW: [swinog] future of dsl
> I don't think it's stupid. With a 56k modem you don't have > any MB included at all, and you pay for traffic. Yes, you > also pay when you install Windows Updates, McAfee updates or > whatever. But if I were a "non-techie", I'd still prefer ADSL > 150/50 instead of a 56k modem - because it's faster! *duh* ok, for the speed: it's 3 times faster .. (ow..is that slow -,)) but is it really cheaper? let's calculate a little bit: 20MB costs the user at least 10.- per month (that he has to switch his telephone to sunrise is another thing). a 56k modem reaches about 7kb/sec. so 20Mb takes about 48 Minutes to download. 1 hour by phone costs something CHF 2.80. i know, its a little bit comparing apples with pears... but at the end: - the user can download faster (ok, it takes hime 16 minutes...) - pays around 10x more ... the user should enjoy a good coffee during that download - which he can of course afford because he saved some money ;-) > Why does everything need to do Swisscom-bashing as a principle? it'snot swisscom bashing (ok, maybe a little bit): but the pricing we have to pay to swisscom is far away from good and bad. it seems that they took a pricelist from 1998 or so for this service... pfft... -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
AW: [swinog] future of dls
hi jean-pierre > I just read that Netgear proposes a firmware upgrade for > their routers to support ADSL2+ and in Germany ISP are > overbidding themselves with always increasing bandwidths. lastmile = swisscom, so no overbidding with bandwidths in switzerland. > Does anyone have reliable information about what swiss > broadband ISPs plan to offer in the next future? don't talk about "swiss broadband ISPs". it's only swisscom, who's offering any service. the "swiss broadband ISPs" are only resellers of swisscom's service. as far as i know swisscom never talked about ADSL2+ but used words like SDSL and maybe VDSL... so, let us see what the future brings us... -steven > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von > Jean-Pierre Schwickerath > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Juli 2005 11:39 > An: swinog@swinog.ch > Betreff: [swinog] future of dls > > Hello everyone, > > I just read that Netgear proposes a firmware upgrade for > their routers to support ADSL2+ and in Germany ISP are > overbidding themselves with always increasing bandwidths. > > Does anyone have reliable information about what swiss > broadband ISPs plan to offer in the next future? > > > Regards, > Jean-Pierre > > > -- > HILOTEC Engineering + Consulting GmbH > Energietechnik und Datensysteme > Tel: +41 34 402 74 00 - http://www.hilotec.com/ > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] pipeline
hmm... http://www.pipeline.ch asks now for a user/password. webserver broken? does someone has some news about pipeline? i haven't heard any news since the company was sold to mr. pennella. i'm just curious ,-) -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
AW: [swinog] swisscom dsl down?
fromt the press: © AP, 2005-07-15 10:25:00 Rund eine Million ADSL-Kunden für 30 Minuten ohne Internet Bern (AP) Der ADSL-Dienst der Swisscom ist am Freitagmorgen zwischen 09.10 Uhr und 09.40 Uhr ausgefallen. Betroffen waren rund eine Million Kunden der Swisscom sowie zahlreicher anderer Firmen, wie ein Swisscom-Sprecher eine Meldung von «Radio Zürisee» bestätigte. Ursache für die Internet-Störung sei ein Softwareproblem gewesen, das noch genauer untersucht werden müsse. well, did microsoft had the patch-day yesterday? *grin* -steven > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Glogger Steven > Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Juli 2005 09:43 > An: 'swinog@swinog.ch' > Betreff: AW: [swinog] swisscom dsl down? > > but the users are coming back now. > we see a lot of users back online... > > -steven > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Jérôme > > Tissières > > Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Juli 2005 09:42 > > An: swinog@swinog.ch > > Betreff: RE: [swinog] swisscom dsl down? > > > > I confirm, > > > > ADSL national outage ; > > > > ---snip--- > > [To:] ISP > > > > [Trouble Ticket Number:] > > > > [Outage ID - Message ID:] 3373 - 00 > > > > [From:] BBCS Support Team > > > > Network-Outage BBCS/ADSL > > > > [Region:] NA > > > > [Affected Locations:] National > > > > [Begin of fault:][Date:] 15.07.2005 [Time:] 09:06 > > > > [End of fault:] [Date:][Time:] > > > > [Area Code:] > > > > [Effect:] BBCS Access whole Switzerland > > > > [Number of ADSL services:] 970'000 > > > > [Work progress:] > > > > [Approximately expected repair time:] > > > > ---snap--- > > > > > -Message d'origine- > > > De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de > > Thomas Schneider > > > Envoyé : vendredi, 15. juillet 2005 09:30 À : > > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > > > Objet : [swinog] swisscom dsl down? > > > > > > good morning > > > > > > can you confirm that swisscom dsl is down? > > > we have lost some customers in different areas. > > > > > > thanks > > > tom > > > ___ > > > swinog mailing list > > > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > > > ___ > > swinog mailing list > > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
AW: [swinog] Swisscom blocks Skype over UMTS ?
do they have something small-printed in their contracts that they *might* filter things out? otherwise i would call this an semi-illegal action... -steven > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Ihsan Dogan > Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Juli 2005 10:48 > An: swinog@swinog.ch > Betreff: Re: [swinog] Swisscom blocks Skype over UMTS ? > > Hello, > > On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 10:30, Umberto Annino wrote: > > > I've just read in 20Minuten, that Swisscom apparently is blocking > > Skype traffic over their UMTS network. They only want UMTS > to be used for "data" > > traffic, not for voice (yeah, so what exactly IS a > UDP-packet then ). > > Other UMTS providers are doing the same. There was an article > on heise.de this (or perhaps last week) about that. > I think it's time that GSM and UMTS providers are thinking > about their prices. Especially here in Switzerland. > > > Ihsan... > > -- > Sun Microsystems (Schweiz) AG > Global Customer Services > Javastrasse 2 / Hegnau > CH-8604 Volketswil > Phone+41 44 908 90 00 > Fax +41 44 908 99 14 > E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Web http://www.sun.com/ > > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
AW: [swinog] swisscom dsl down?
but the users are coming back now. we see a lot of users back online... -steven > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Jérôme > Tissières > Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Juli 2005 09:42 > An: swinog@swinog.ch > Betreff: RE: [swinog] swisscom dsl down? > > I confirm, > > ADSL national outage ; > > ---snip--- > [To:] ISP > > [Trouble Ticket Number:] > > [Outage ID - Message ID:] 3373 - 00 > > [From:] BBCS Support Team > > Network-Outage BBCS/ADSL > > [Region:] NA > > [Affected Locations:] National > > [Begin of fault:] [Date:] 15.07.2005 [Time:] 09:06 > > [End of fault:][Date:][Time:] > > [Area Code:] > > [Effect:] BBCS Access whole Switzerland > > [Number of ADSL services:] 970'000 > > [Work progress:] > > [Approximately expected repair time:] > > ---snap--- > > > -Message d'origine- > > De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de > Thomas Schneider > > Envoyé : vendredi, 15. juillet 2005 09:30 À : > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > > Objet : [swinog] swisscom dsl down? > > > > good morning > > > > can you confirm that swisscom dsl is down? > > we have lost some customers in different areas. > > > > thanks > > tom > > ___ > > swinog mailing list > > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
AW: [swinog] [job] Infonet CH open position at help desk in Bern
hi marco unfortunately i'm not able to make it, but enjoy the tour. and next time watch out your reply: this was a post from a mailinglist ,-) cheers -steven > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Marco Stieger > Gesendet: Montag, 11. Juli 2005 11:34 > An: swinog@swinog.ch > Betreff: Re: [swinog] [job] Infonet CH open position at help > desk in Bern > > Hallo Felix, > > Danke für den Link :-) > > Ich geh wahrscheinlich in der KW-34 auf eine Velo-Tour. Von > Appenzell bis in die Westschweiz. > > Bist du dabei? > > > Grüässli Marco > > Felix Curinga wrote: > > See the job description (German..) > > > > http://www.infonet-switzerland.ch/contact/careers/job27.asp > > > > --félix > > > > > > ___ > > swinog mailing list > > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > -- > Marco Stieger > Calivia GmbH http://www.calivia.com > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mobile +41 79 4234911 > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] Move of SwiNOG-BE27 - Beer Event 27
hi all due obviously bad weather we have to move the BBQ to an indoor place ,-( so, as announced we will move today to the outback lodge (see http://swinog.mrmouse.ch for details how to get there ). if you can't attend today at the new place please drop me an email because i have to reserve at the restaurant. greetings -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
