[swinog] Bluewin dynamic IP-ranges

2011-03-07 Thread Philip Iezzi
Hi

Can someone from Bluewin/Swisscom please provide me with a list of all possible 
dynamic IP-ranges Bluewin offers to its customers?
I need this for a firewall rule that should give access to a service for all 
Bluewin customers.

Thanks a lot.
Regards, Philip

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Re: [swinog] Bluewin dynamic IP-ranges

2011-03-07 Thread Fredy Kuenzler

Am 07.03.2011 13:02, schrieb Philip Iezzi:

Can someone from Bluewin/Swisscom please provide me with a list of all
possible dynamic IP-ranges Bluewin offers to its customers? I need this
for a firewall rule that should give access to a service for all Bluewin
customers.


'sh ip bgp regexp _44038_' would help, I assume. But note there are plenty
of more-specifics for traffic engineering.

F.


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Re: [swinog] Bluewin dynamic IP-ranges

2011-03-08 Thread Steven.Glogger
>'sh ip bgp regexp _44038_' would help, I assume. But note there are plenty
>of more-specifics for traffic engineering.

actually you get too much - not only bluewin ,-)

-steven


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Re: [swinog] Bluewin dynamic IP-ranges

2011-03-09 Thread Fredy Kuenzler

Am 09.03.2011 08:02, schrieb steven.glog...@swisscom.com:

'sh ip bgp regexp _44038_' would help, I assume. But note there are
plenty of more-specifics for traffic engineering.


actually you get too much - not only bluewin ,-)


... and after the next Swisscom reorganisation you get less if you stick to
AS44038

*scnr*

F.


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Re: [swinog] Bluewin dynamic IP-ranges

2011-03-09 Thread Stefan Rothenbuehler

 On 03/ 7/11 01:02 PM, Philip Iezzi wrote:

Hi

Can someone from Bluewin/Swisscom please provide me with a list of all possible 
dynamic IP-ranges Bluewin offers to its customers?
I need this for a firewall rule that should give access to a service for all 
Bluewin customers.


Hi Philip

If you're providing a service for all Bluewin customers, I assume that 
the project partner is Swisscom.
So I'm your project partner within Swisscom can give you the desired IP 
range information.


Kind regards

Stefan Rothenbuehler
System Engineer UNIX
Swisscom (Schweiz) AG


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Re: [swinog] Bluewin dynamic IP-ranges

2011-03-09 Thread Stefan Rothenbuehler

 On 03/ 9/11 04:28 PM, Stefan Rothenbuehler wrote:
So I'm *sure* your project partner within Swisscom can give you the 
desired IP range information. 




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Re: [swinog] Bluewin dynamic IP-ranges

2011-03-15 Thread Peter Keel
Hello

* on the Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 04:28:34PM +0100, Stefan Rothenbuehler wrote:
> If you're providing a service for all Bluewin customers, I assume
> that the project partner is Swisscom.
> So I'm your project partner within Swisscom can give you the desired
> IP range information.

You might be shocked to hear that it's possible that an ISP wants to 
whitelist all Bluewin-Ranges *despite* having nothing to do with 
Swisscom or Bluewin itself.

In fact, we also have the same issue; we need to firewall something,
but our customer, which happens to use a dynamic IP in the Swisscom/Bluewin
range, needs to have access. And its far better to allow all your dynamic 
IP-ranges than to allow the rest of the world as well.

Cheers
Seegras
-- 
"Those who give up essential liberties for temporary safety deserve 
neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin
"It's also true that those who would give up privacy for security are 
likely to end up with neither." -- Bruce Schneier


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Re: [swinog] Bluewin dynamic IP-ranges

2011-03-15 Thread Robert.Guentensperger
Dear all

Since our IP-addresses are not a secret, I can deliver them on request.
We are thinking about a separate webpage where we publish our customer-ranges.
There are more and more such requests from customers/partners/providers for 
this.

Cheers,
Günti


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|Hello
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|* on the Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 04:28:34PM +0100, Stefan Rothenbuehler
|wrote:
|> If you're providing a service for all Bluewin customers, I assume
|> that the project partner is Swisscom.
|> So I'm your project partner within Swisscom can give you the desired
|> IP range information.
|
|You might be shocked to hear that it's possible that an ISP wants to
|whitelist all Bluewin-Ranges *despite* having nothing to do with
|Swisscom or Bluewin itself.
|
|In fact, we also have the same issue; we need to firewall something,
|but our customer, which happens to use a dynamic IP in the
|Swisscom/Bluewin
|range, needs to have access. And its far better to allow all your
|dynamic
|IP-ranges than to allow the rest of the world as well.
|
|Cheers
|Seegras
|--
|"Those who give up essential liberties for temporary safety deserve
|neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin
|"It's also true that those who would give up privacy for security are
|likely to end up with neither." -- Bruce Schneier
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Re: [swinog] Bluewin dynamic IP-ranges

2011-03-15 Thread Peter Keel
Hello

* on the Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:28:34AM +0100, 
robert.guentensper...@swisscom.com wrote:
> Since our IP-addresses are not a secret, I can deliver them on request.
> We are thinking about a separate webpage where we publish our customer-
> ranges. 

Good idea. Right now, we just whitelist the whole AS44038-Range; but of 
course knowing specifically the dynamic-ranges would be useful. 

Cheers
Seegras
-- 
"Those who give up essential liberties for temporary safety deserve 
neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin
"It's also true that those who would give up privacy for security are 
likely to end up with neither." -- Bruce Schneier


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Re: [swinog] Bluewin dynamic IP-ranges

2011-03-15 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2011-Mar-15 10:28, robert.guentensper...@swisscom.com wrote:
> Dear all
> 
> Since our IP-addresses are not a secret, I can deliver them on request.
> We are thinking about a separate webpage where we publish our customer-ranges.
> There are more and more such requests from customers/partners/providers for 
> this.

There is this great thing called RPSL that can be used for this. Just
create a set of addresses with a certain name and provide people with
that name. Then you just have to tell people to reload that set every X
days and presto, everybody has correct info.

(Indeed, you don't have to use every data point in RIPE IRR for routing,
one can also use it for documenting these kind of things ;)

Greets,
 Jeroen


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