Re: t-and-f: What are we really saying?

2002-01-01 Thread Mike Prizy

Yes, it was water poisoning. It was this novice female runner's first marathon. She 
stopped at just
about every water table and drank a liter or more at who knows how many water stations 
along the
course, which depleted (diluted) her system of electrolytes. Basically the same thing 
that happens
from alcohol poisoning (and, similarly - though physiologically different - if you 
wrapped your lips
around the tail pipe of a car while the engine was running.) Because of this, some may 
want to call
for the ban of alcohol and fossil fuel-burning combustion engines.

But, I think this is a little different than from advocating drugs with the intent of 
improving
athletic performance.



Tom Derderian wrote:
> 
> Hydrogen dioxide overdose caused the death of a runner in the Chicago
> Marathon so maybe it needs to be regulated so we can have a perfect world.
> TD
> 
> > I hope you are not against ergogenics.  After all hydrogen dioxide is the
> > world's most prevalent ergogenic aid.
> >
> > John the crazy alaskan runner
> >



Re: t-and-f: chip timing at European Cross-Country Chamionships

2002-01-01 Thread JimRTimes


In a message dated 12/31/01 4:39:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>A runner could have his torso cross first but have the transponder on his
>back
>leg and lose several places.

I think S.O.P. in transponder timed Xc races is to have the competitors where 
a chip on EACH shoe, to lessen (though admittedly not eliminate) such 
occurences.

Jim Gerweck
Running Times



Re: t-and-f: chip timing at European Cross-Country Chamionships

2002-01-01 Thread JimRTimes


In a message dated 12/31/01 12:35:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Can this chip timing record team standing at every 5 km split and report
>
>those standing to a press room and TV in real time? 

Tom, I'm pretty sure this technology exists right now. Those of us stuck in 
the press room watching the TV feeds haven't experienced it, but folks at 
home in front of their computers could track individual runners' progress vie 
these very same mats. All it would take is inputting the data into a race 
scoring computer that would have the team registration info and spit out the 
intermediate scores as required.

Jim Gerweck
Running Times
also hungry for new technology, but usually starving in the lunch line at the 
BAA press room.



Re: t-and-f: What are we really saying?

2002-01-01 Thread Tom Derderian


Hydrogen dioxide overdose caused the death of a runner in the Chicago
Marathon so maybe it needs to be regulated so we can have a perfect world.
TD

> I hope you are not against ergogenics.  After all hydrogen dioxide is the
> world's most prevalent ergogenic aid.
>
> John the crazy alaskan runner
>




t-and-f: test message...

2002-01-01 Thread Paul Merca

...please delete.

Paul Merca



t-and-f: X-C Races in SF Area

2002-01-01 Thread Tim & Karen O'Dowd

Netters,

Does anyone know of an open cross country race in California, preferably
within 50 miles of the SF Bay area in mid-late January through the first
week of February? Reply to me or the list. Happy New Year!  Thanks.

Patrick O'Dowd




Re: t-and-f: What's up with these officials???

2002-01-01 Thread peter stuart

At 09:37 PM 12/31/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Dave Johnson wrote:
>
> > At 5:01 PM -0500 31.12.2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >Dear Listers,
> > >
> > >I was just reading the NJ Star Ledger and they had a story about how 
> the lap
> > >counter at a meet did not ring the bell lap provoking the anchor leg 
> on a HS
> > >DMR to run an extra lap. His 4-lap split was 4:23, and he was very annoyed
> > >that had the bell rang, he could've sprinted and maybe his team had a 
> chance
> > >at the meet record (which they missed by mere seconds). I get very 
> angry when
> > >things like this happens because the officials are there for a particular
> > >reason and they fail to (at times) realize it. In AAU competiton last 
> year, I
> > >witnessed an official stop 3 consecutive 3,000m races a lap short! I can
> > >understand one, but 3!! He even went over to one of the participants, 
> who was
> > >now at a water cooler, and informed her that she had an additional 
> lap! What
> > >if she didn't advance? Another example occurred an indoor county meet 
> in NJ,
> > >where the official physically prevented the runners from exchanging 
> the baton
> > >and attempted to make them run an extra lap. Officials, pay attention 
> to the
> > >track, PLEASE!!
> > >
> > >
> > >Larry A. Morgan, Sr.
> > >Elizabeth Heat TC
> >
> > 
> >
> > As much as I sympathize with your identification of incompetency, I issue
> > one warning:  the only way to ultimately take care of the lap counting
> > problem you identify is to become a lap counter yourself.  I'm sure you can
> > claim that you already spend enough time coaching, but there are many
> > coaches who also officiate.  And I've seen an awful lot of coaches who
> > screwed up royally and then look for every whichway out of the pickle
> > they've created by and for themselves.  Don't get me wrong, meet directors,
> > administrators, athletes and spectators (have I left anyone out?) screw up
> > too.  Just try watching a mile (or 1600m for Walt Murphy's sake) in their
> > shoes.
> >
> > Dave Johnson
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>I realize that another point is being made here but I was just told a few 
>weeks
>ago that coaches are not allowed to officiate in Canada. I don't know if 
>there are
>similar rules in the US.
>Regards,
>
>
>Martin

In the far eastern provinces of Canada, NB & NS in particular , almost all 
meets HAVE coaches officiating. Most meets would not even take place 
without the help of a coach or two with a tape measure , clipboard , stop 
watch or as the meet director.




Peter Stuart
Head Coach South-East Athletics
Head Coach NB Canada Games
Coach,Field Events, Universitie de Moncton
NB Coaching Chair
Master Course Conductor
NB CSG web page http://personal.nbnet.nb.ca/stuart/