t-and-f: Fwd: Seattle International June 8
Begin Forwarded Message Date:05/01 23:14 Received:05/02 2:58 From:Brad Barquist, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seattle International June 8th, Shoreline Stadium Men's and Women's, 800, mile(w/1500 splits), 2-mile, 5k, pole vault and triple jump. We're running high school invite miles and 2-miles preceding the same distance races for the elites. Inquiriesshould be made to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -with subject line please reading "Seattle International." - End Forwarded Message - Mike Scott Vice Chair/Secretary, USATF Cross Country Council Clubs Coordinator, Team USA Distance Running Coordinator, CanAm High Performance Distance Circuit [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://miscott.home.att.net/
t-and-f: Fw: recipe
- Original Message - From: Joanna Redman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Lee Love (E-mail) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Steph Acton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; John Bale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Susan Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Will Bradbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Simon Brentford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Simon Brentford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; jason brister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; andy burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Chris Cartwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Steve Champ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Paul Channin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Rupert Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Ruth Covell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Kat Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Kat Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; catherine dyson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; John Fletcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Marie Forbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ben frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; sara Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 3:55 PM Subject: recipe > Another "true" story? > > It figures, another large corporation trying to screw > the little man - > this > should teach them! Pass it on - it is one way to > get them back > > > > This is great. > > > >A little background: Neiman-Marcus, if you don't > > > >know already, is a very expensive store; i.e., > they > > > >sell your typical $8.00 T-shirt for $50.00. > > > >Let's let them have it! > > > > > > > >THIS IS A TRUE STORY > > > > > > > >My daughter and I had just finished a salad at a > > > >Neiman-Marcus Cafe in Dallas, and we decided to > have > > > >a small dessert. Because both of us are such > cookie > > > >lovers, we decided to try the "Neiman-Marcus > > > >cookie." > > > >It was so excellent that I asked if they would > give > > > >me the recipe, and the waitress said with a small > frown, > > > >"I'm afraid not, but you can buy the recipe." > > > >Well, I asked how much, and she responded, "Only > two > > > >fifty-it's a great deal!" I agreed to that, and > told > > > >her to just add it to my tab. > > > > Thirty days later, I received my VISA > > > >statement, and the Neiman-Marcus charge was > $285.00! > > > >I looked again, and I remembered I had only spent > > > >$9.95 for two salads and about $20.00 for a > scarf. > > > >As I glanced at the bottom of the statement, it > > > >said, "Cookie Recipe-$250.00". That was > outrageous! > > > > I called Neiman's Accounting Department and > > > >told them the waitress said it was "two fifty", > > > >which clearly does not mean "two hundred and > fifty > > > >dollars" by any reasonable interpretation of the > > > >phrase. > > > > Neiman-Marcus refused to budge. They would > not > > > >refund my money because, according to them, "What > > > >the waitress told you is not our problem. You > have > > > >already seen the recipe. We absolutely will not > > > >refund your money > > > >at this point." I explained to the Accounting > > > >Department lady the criminal statutes which > govern > > > >fraud in the state of Texas. I threatened to > report > > > >them to the Better Business Bureau and the Texas > > > >Attorney General's office for engaging in fraud. > I > > > >was basically told, "Do what you want. Don't > bother > > > >thinking of how you can get even, and don't > bother > > > >trying to get any of your money back." I just > said, > > > >"Okay, you folks got my $250, and now I'm going > to > > > >have $250 worth of fun." > > > > I told her that I was going to see to it > that > > > >every cookie lover in the United States with an > > > >e-mail account has a $250 cookie recipe from > > > >Neiman-Marcus...for free. She replied, "I wish > you > > > >wouldn't do this." I said, "Well, perhaps you > > > >should have thought of that before you ripped me > > > >off!" and slammed down the phone. > > > > > > > >So here it is! Please, please, please pass it on > to > > > >everyone you can possibly think of. I paid $250 > for > > > >this, and I don't want Neiman-Marcus to EVER make > > > >another penny off of this recipe! > > > > > > > >NEIMAN-MARCUS COOKIES (Recipe may be halved) > > > >2 cups butter > > > >24 oz.chocolate chips > > > >4 cups flour > > > >2 cups brown sugar > > > >2 tsp. soda > > > >1 tsp. salt > > > >2 cups sugar > > > >1 8 oz. Hershey Bar (grated) > > > >5 cups blended oatmeal > > > >4 eggs > > > >2 tsp. baking powder > > > >2 tsp. vanilla > > > >3 cups chopped nuts (your choice) > > > >Measure oatmeal, and blend in a blender to a fine > > > >powder. Cream the butter and both sugars. Add > eggs > > > >and vanilla, mix together with flour,oatmeal, > salt, > > > >baking powder, and soda. Add chocolate chips, > > > >Hershey Bar, and nuts. > > > >Roll into balls, and place two inches apart on a > > > >cookie sheet. Bake for 10 minutes at 375 degrees. > Makes 112 > > > >cookies. > > > >PLEASE READ THE RECIPE AND SEND IT TO EVERY > PERSON > > > >YOU KNOW WHO HAS AN > > > >E-MAIL ADDRESS! THIS IS REALLY TERRIFIC > > > > = > An English professor wrote the words, "Woman without her man is nothing," on the blackboard and directed the students to punctuate it co
t-and-f: Fw: recipe
Message text written by "John Bale" > > Another "true" story?< NONSENSE. This is an old urban legend. See: http://www.snopes.com/business/consumer/cookie.htm or http://www.urbanlegends.com/ulz/twofifty.html or http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blbyol19.htm?once=true&; Bob H
t-and-f: A llloooooooonnnnnnnggggg championships course
>From the home page of the www.brussels2002.be/en describing the course to be used for Sunday's IAAF championships in Brussels: "On the menu: two 10,500km laps, ... "
Re: t-and-f: Fw: recipe
THIS IS NOT A "TRUE" STORY and should not be on this list even if it was!!! This same "true" story has been passed around for years - by word of mouth before the internet. George - Original Message - From: "John Bale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Sport History Scholars list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Track & Field List (E-mail 2)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Anthony P. Bale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 6:49 AM Subject: t-and-f: Fw: recipe > > - Original Message - > From: Joanna Redman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Lee Love (E-mail) > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Steph Acton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; John Bale > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Susan Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Will > Bradbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Simon Brentford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > Simon Brentford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; jason brister > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; andy burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Chris > Cartwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Steve Champ > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Paul Channin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Rupert > Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Ruth Covell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > Kat Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Kat Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > catherine dyson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; John Fletcher > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Marie Forbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ben frank > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; sara > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 3:55 PM > Subject: recipe > > > > Another "true" story? > > > > It figures, another large corporation trying to screw > > the little man - > > this > > should teach them! Pass it on - it is one way to > > get them back > > > > > > This is great. > > > > >A little background: Neiman-Marcus, if you don't > > > > >know already, is a very expensive store; i.e., > > they > > > > >sell your typical $8.00 T-shirt for $50.00. > > > > >Let's let them have it! > > > > > > > > > >THIS IS A TRUE STORY > > > > > > > > > >My daughter and I had just finished a salad at a > > > > >Neiman-Marcus Cafe in Dallas, and we decided to > > have > > > > >a small dessert. Because both of us are such > > cookie > > > > >lovers, we decided to try the "Neiman-Marcus > > > > >cookie." > > > > >It was so excellent that I asked if they would > > give > > > > >me the recipe, and the waitress said with a small > > frown, > > > > >"I'm afraid not, but you can buy the recipe." > > > > >Well, I asked how much, and she responded, "Only > > two > > > > >fifty-it's a great deal!" I agreed to that, and > > told > > > > >her to just add it to my tab. > > > > > Thirty days later, I received my VISA > > > > >statement, and the Neiman-Marcus charge was > > $285.00! > > > > >I looked again, and I remembered I had only spent > > > > >$9.95 for two salads and about $20.00 for a > > scarf. > > > > >As I glanced at the bottom of the statement, it > > > > >said, "Cookie Recipe-$250.00". That was > > outrageous! > > > > > I called Neiman's Accounting Department and > > > > >told them the waitress said it was "two fifty", > > > > >which clearly does not mean "two hundred and > > fifty > > > > >dollars" by any reasonable interpretation of the > > > > >phrase. > > > > > Neiman-Marcus refused to budge. They would > > not > > > > >refund my money because, according to them, "What > > > > >the waitress told you is not our problem. You > > have > > > > >already seen the recipe. We absolutely will not > > > > >refund your money > > > > >at this point." I explained to the Accounting > > > > >Department lady the criminal statutes which > > govern > > > > >fraud in the state of Texas. I threatened to > > report > > > > >them to the Better Business Bureau and the Texas > > > > >Attorney General's office for engaging in fraud. > > I > > > > >was basically told, "Do what you want. Don't > > bother > > > > >thinking of how you can get even, and don't > > bother > > > > >trying to get any of your money back." I just > > said, > > > > >"Okay, you folks got my $250, and now I'm going > > to > > > > >have $250 worth of fun." > > > > > I told her that I was going to see to it > > that > > > > >every cookie lover in the United States with an > > > > >e-mail account has a $250 cookie recipe from > > > > >Neiman-Marcus...for free. She replied, "I wish > > you > > > > >wouldn't do this." I said, "Well, perhaps you > > > > >should have thought of that before you ripped me > > > > >off!" and slammed down the phone. > > > > > > > > > >So here it is! Please, please, please pass it on > > to > > > > >everyone you can possibly think of. I paid $250 > > for > > > > >this, and I don't want Neiman-Marcus to EVER make > > > > >another penny off of this recipe! > > > > > > > > > >NEIMAN-MARCUS COOKIES (Recipe may be halved) > > > > >2 cups butter > > > > >24 oz.chocolate chips > > > > >4 cups flour > > > > >2 cups brown sugar > > > > >2 tsp. soda > > > > >1 tsp. salt > > > > >2 cups sugar > > > > >1 8 oz. Hershey Bar (grated) > > > > >5 cups blended oatmeal > > > > >4 eggs > > > > >2 tsp. baking powder > > > > >2 tsp. vanilla
t-and-f: Interesting BGSU track page
Interesting thoughts from Jessie Squire on BGSU athletic director to drop men's track: "The first criteria used to decide which sports to cut was money. The mens track programs annual expenses total $179,000 (less than 2% of the athletic budget). It does generate revenue, though; over $54,000 from NCAA Sport Sponsorships and Scholarship Distribution funds alone. Add in the tuition of 42 student-athletes and State of Ohio funding for in-state students, and the mens track program bring in a total of $436,978 to the University-a net GAIN of over $257,000! It may be interesting to note that in the 2000-01 school year, football and mens basketball combined for a LOSS of over $1.9 million! So much for using money as a deciding factor." For more updates on where Bowling Green currently stands, visit www.savebgtrack.com. Thanks, Tom Borish www.mactrack.net
Re: t-and-f: Fw: recipe
It seems to me that the most important issue is that of the recipe. Has anyone tried it? Is it any good? Is there such a thing as a bad chocolate chip cookie? Have we had every discussion known to mankind concerning track and field? John George Cole wrote: > THIS IS NOT A "TRUE" STORY and should not be on this list even if it was!!! > > This same "true" story has been passed around for years - by word of mouth > before the internet. > > George > > - Original Message - > From: "John Bale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Sport History Scholars list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Track & Field List (E-mail 2)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Anthony P. > Bale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 6:49 AM > Subject: t-and-f: Fw: recipe > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Joanna Redman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Lee Love (E-mail) > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Steph Acton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; John Bale > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Susan Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Will > > Bradbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Simon Brentford > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > Simon Brentford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; jason brister > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; andy burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Chris > > Cartwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Steve Champ > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Paul Channin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > Rupert > > Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Ruth Covell > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > Kat Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Kat Duncan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > catherine dyson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; John Fletcher > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Marie Forbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ben frank > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; sara > > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 3:55 PM > > Subject: recipe > > > > > > > Another "true" story? > > > > > > It figures, another large corporation trying to screw > > > the little man - > > > this > > > should teach them! Pass it on - it is one way to > > > get them back > > > > > > > > This is great. > > > > > >A little background: Neiman-Marcus, if you don't > > > > > >know already, is a very expensive store; i.e., > > > they > > > > > >sell your typical $8.00 T-shirt for $50.00. > > > > > >Let's let them have it! > > > > > > > > > > > >THIS IS A TRUE STORY > > > > > > > > > > > >My daughter and I had just finished a salad at a > > > > > >Neiman-Marcus Cafe in Dallas, and we decided to > > > have > > > > > >a small dessert. Because both of us are such > > > cookie > > > > > >lovers, we decided to try the "Neiman-Marcus > > > > > >cookie." > > > > > >It was so excellent that I asked if they would > > > give > > > > > >me the recipe, and the waitress said with a small > > > frown, > > > > > >"I'm afraid not, but you can buy the recipe." > > > > > >Well, I asked how much, and she responded, "Only > > > two > > > > > >fifty-it's a great deal!" I agreed to that, and > > > told > > > > > >her to just add it to my tab. > > > > > > Thirty days later, I received my VISA > > > > > >statement, and the Neiman-Marcus charge was > > > $285.00! > > > > > >I looked again, and I remembered I had only spent > > > > > >$9.95 for two salads and about $20.00 for a > > > scarf. > > > > > >As I glanced at the bottom of the statement, it > > > > > >said, "Cookie Recipe-$250.00". That was > > > outrageous! > > > > > > I called Neiman's Accounting Department and > > > > > >told them the waitress said it was "two fifty", > > > > > >which clearly does not mean "two hundred and > > > fifty > > > > > >dollars" by any reasonable interpretation of the > > > > > >phrase. > > > > > > Neiman-Marcus refused to budge. They would > > > not > > > > > >refund my money because, according to them, "What > > > > > >the waitress told you is not our problem. You > > > have > > > > > >already seen the recipe. We absolutely will not > > > > > >refund your money > > > > > >at this point." I explained to the Accounting > > > > > >Department lady the criminal statutes which > > > govern > > > > > >fraud in the state of Texas. I threatened to > > > report > > > > > >them to the Better Business Bureau and the Texas > > > > > >Attorney General's office for engaging in fraud. > > > I > > > > > >was basically told, "Do what you want. Don't > > > bother > > > > > >thinking of how you can get even, and don't > > > bother > > > > > >trying to get any of your money back." I just > > > said, > > > > > >"Okay, you folks got my $250, and now I'm going > > > to > > > > > >have $250 worth of fun." > > > > > > I told her that I was going to see to it > > > that > > > > > >every cookie lover in the United States with an > > > > > >e-mail account has a $250 cookie recipe from > > > > > >Neiman-Marcus...for free. She replied, "I wish > > > you > > > > > >wouldn't do this." I said, "Well, perhaps you > > > > > >should have thought of that before you ripped me > > > > > >off!" and slammed down the phone. > > > > > > > > > > > >So here it is! Please, please, please pass it on > > > to > > > > > >everyone you can possib
t-and-f: Yet another program cut
It appears that Babson College, a Division III school in Wellesley MA, will be dropping cross country and track. Don't have all the details/reasons (i.e., Title IX, budget, other, or some combination). The coach told me this last Saturday; the team was notified on Thursday, two days before their conference championship meet. Babson has had cross country for 40+ years, but only started their track program three years ago. This season they had their largest turnout and interest was growing.Most of the cuts mentioned recently have been Division I; here is a DIII school with no football program getting the ax. Steve V Steve Vaitones Managing Director USA Track & Field - New England Association P.O.Box 1905 Brookline MA 02446-0016 Phone: 617 566 7600 Fax: 617 734 6322 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.usatfne.org
Re: t-and-f: Fw: recipe, cakey lumps of tastless gunk
That is the joke. The recipe is really bad. All that flour and blended oatmeal, whatever that is, a total of 9 cups, with only 2 cups of sugar would make cakey lumps of tasteless gunk. Only 24 oz of chocolate chips? And why grate the Hershey bar? ...totally stupid recipe. For only $100 bucks you can have one of mine. Tom, who is the baker in our house. - Original Message - From: John Lunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: George Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: John Bale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sport History Scholars list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Track & Field List (E-mail 2) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Anthony P. Bale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 4:54 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: Fw: recipe > It seems to me that the most important issue is that of the recipe. Has anyone > tried it? Is it any good? Is there such a thing as a bad chocolate chip cookie? > Have we had every discussion known to mankind concerning track and field? > John > > George Cole wrote: > > > THIS IS NOT A "TRUE" STORY and should not be on this list even if it was!!! > > > > This same "true" story has been passed around for years - by word of mouth > > before the internet. > > > > George > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "John Bale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Sport History Scholars list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: "Track & Field List (E-mail 2)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Anthony P. > > Bale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 6:49 AM > > Subject: t-and-f: Fw: recipe > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: Joanna Redman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Lee Love (E-mail) > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Steph Acton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; John Bale > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Susan Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Will > > > Bradbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Simon Brentford > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > > Simon Brentford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; jason brister > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; andy burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Chris > > > Cartwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Steve Champ > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Paul Channin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > Rupert > > > Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Ruth Covell > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > > Kat Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Kat Duncan > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > > catherine dyson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; John Fletcher > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Marie Forbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ben frank > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; sara > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 3:55 PM > > > Subject: recipe > > > > > > > > > > Another "true" story? > > > > > > > > It figures, another large corporation trying to screw > > > > the little man - > > > > this > > > > should teach them! Pass it on - it is one way to > > > > get them back > > > > > > > > > > This is great. > > > > > > >A little background: Neiman-Marcus, if you don't > > > > > > >know already, is a very expensive store; i.e., > > > > they > > > > > > >sell your typical $8.00 T-shirt for $50.00. > > > > > > >Let's let them have it! > > > > > > > > > > > > > >THIS IS A TRUE STORY > > > > > > > > > > > > > >My daughter and I had just finished a salad at a > > > > > > >Neiman-Marcus Cafe in Dallas, and we decided to > > > > have > > > > > > >a small dessert. Because both of us are such > > > > cookie > > > > > > >lovers, we decided to try the "Neiman-Marcus > > > > > > >cookie." > > > > > > >It was so excellent that I asked if they would > > > > give > > > > > > >me the recipe, and the waitress said with a small > > > > frown, > > > > > > >"I'm afraid not, but you can buy the recipe." > > > > > > >Well, I asked how much, and she responded, "Only > > > > two > > > > > > >fifty-it's a great deal!" I agreed to that, and > > > > told > > > > > > >her to just add it to my tab. > > > > > > > Thirty days later, I received my VISA > > > > > > >statement, and the Neiman-Marcus charge was > > > > $285.00! > > > > > > >I looked again, and I remembered I had only spent > > > > > > >$9.95 for two salads and about $20.00 for a > > > > scarf. > > > > > > >As I glanced at the bottom of the statement, it > > > > > > >said, "Cookie Recipe-$250.00". That was > > > > outrageous! > > > > > > > I called Neiman's Accounting Department and > > > > > > >told them the waitress said it was "two fifty", > > > > > > >which clearly does not mean "two hundred and > > > > fifty > > > > > > >dollars" by any reasonable interpretation of the > > > > > > >phrase. > > > > > > > Neiman-Marcus refused to budge. They would > > > > not > > > > > > >refund my money because, according to them, "What > > > > > > >the waitress told you is not our problem. You > > > > have > > > > > > >already seen the recipe. We absolutely will not > > > > > > >refund your money > > > > > > >at this point." I explained to the Accounting > > > > > > >Department lady the criminal statutes which > > > > govern > > > > > > >fraud in the state of Texas. I threatened to > > > > report > > > > > > >them to the Better B
Re: t-and-f: Fw: recipe, cakey lumps of tastless gunk
What's really remarkable is that there have been more posts regarding this hoax than there were regarding Mt. Sac, the upcoming Cardinal Invite or even the Penn Relays. Steve S.
Re: t-and-f: Fw: recipe, cakey lumps of tastless gunk
I hear Jon Drummond is going to claim he was bringing in that stash to add to the mix, making a batch of Nieman Marcus/Alice B. Toklas cookies. Jim Gerweck Running Times
Re: t-and-f: A llloooooooonnnnnnnggggg championships course
"Post, Marty" schreef: > >From the home page of the www.brussels2002.be/en describing the course to be > used for Sunday's IAAF championships in Brussels: > > "On the menu: two 10,500km laps, ... " In fact in Dutch (and many more European countries) the , (komma) means what in North-America the . (dot) means. So then it would say two laps of ten-and-a-half kilometers (not surprisingly about half a marathon). Regards, Wilmar PS You would usually write '10,5km laps', though, so it probably was a funny error on the part of the writer.
t-and-f: paging Pat Palmer
Pat, if you're still on list, please contact me. gh ps--I'll skip the usual apology to the list for eating up valuable bandwidth, since there's nothing else being posted anyway! pps--how about them Sharks! (hey, if nobody wants to talk track, maybe we can get going on hockey) :-)
Re: t-and-f: Fw: recipe, cakey lumps of tastless gunk
Yeah, the only thread bigger than the cookie thread is the recurring discussion over nobody saying anything about track. If all those who are inclined to post complaints about the lack of track talk would post something about track instead, the problem would would not exist in the first place. Kurt Bray >What's really remarkable is that there have been more posts regarding this >hoax than there were regarding Mt. Sac, the upcoming Cardinal Invite or >even the Penn Relays. > >Steve S. _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
t-and-f: Worthy topic: Save BG track
Here's a great web site dedicated to keeping track at Bowling Green. If there's nothing to talk about, lets help these guys out. http://personal.bgsu.edu/~jsquire/
t-and-f: even more remarkable....
than the lack of talk about any of last week's big meets is that nobody has mentioned the APPARENT fact that the NCAA finally approved the concept of Regionals last week. At least that's what a long post on the message board at letsrun.com lays out. I haven't seen mention of it in any official capacity yet. gh
t-and-f: Bucher out for at least six weeks
Here's a post about track Athletics-Bucher out for at least six weeks with foot injury GENEVA (Reuters) - Swiss 800 metres world champion Andre Bucher has been sidelined for at least six weeks after fracturing his left foot during training. Bucher told Swissinfo.org that the injury would force him to miss the European Cup in June and July's Grand Prix meeting in Lausanne. But the 28-year-old refused to be drawn on whether he would make the European championships in Munich in August. "That all depends on how quickly the injury heals," he said. Bucher, who became Switzerland's first track world champion when he won the 800 metres title last year in Edmonton, suffered the injury while running around a bend. "I'm not going to get too down about it," Bucher said. "But it means the first half of the season is over for me." __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com
t-and-f: Another correction+
Netters: Of course tnat was a 5K road race, not a 6K. Two queries: 1) Is there any good site for college meets now that College Running is down? 2)What will be the best site (other than our own list) to field the Stanford results? Ed Grant
t-and-f: Live updates of results during the Cardinal Invitational
During Friday night's Cardinal Invitational at Stanford we will be posting live updates of race results and splits during both the men's and women's sections of the Kim McDonald Memorial 10,000m. The updates may be viewed at: http://EZMeets.com/cardinviterslts.html or by following the Live Stats section of gostanford.com.
Re: t-and-f: Fw: recipe, cakey lumps of tastless gunk
On Thu, 02 May 2002 20:18:21 +, you wrote:
>Yeah, the only thread bigger than the cookie thread is the recurring
>discussion over nobody saying anything about track. If all those who are
>inclined to post complaints about the lack of track talk would post
>something about track instead, the problem would would not exist in the
>first place.
Just like those who complain about not marking every throw in Suzy Powell's
recent AR series are those who refuse to get off their duff up in the press
box and go down and help mark on the field, when the meet is obviously
short of officials. ("it's my job as a journalist to point out problems; not
solve them!")
I have absolutely no problem with somebody marking, or 'shagging' implements
in the field, with a portable mike in their hand, announcing to the crowd
who's up next at the same time, as long as they pay attention (safety).
By the way, I'm curious- usually three competent officials (sometimes even
just two) are all that are needed to mark every throw and still keep
the competition moving along expeditiously.
If every throw was not marked in San Diego, one might assume they only had one or two
officials available.
Yet American (and World) records require signoff by three certified officials
last time I checked. Is Suzy's WR in jeapardy because it wasn't witnessed by
enough USATF officials? If it's NOT in jeapardy, what were those officials
doing, just standing around?
Randy
Re: t-and-f: college sites (was: Another correction+)
--- Ed Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1) Is there any good site for college meets now that College > Running is down? Not quite the same thing, but Run-Down always has, and hopefully always will, offered a directory of links to every known collegiate cross country/track & field web site in North America: http://run-down.com/Colleges/ CollegeRunning.com undertook a similar project at one point, but did not complete it because they felt it would be redundant (we bounced ideas off each other for a while). I know they were much more into live reports and what not, but the above URL should be better than nothing. Dan = http://AccountBiller.com - MyCalendar, D-Man, ReSearch, etc. http://Run-Down.com - 10,000 Running Links, Fantasy T&F @o Dan Kaplan - [EMAIL PROTECTED] <|\/ <^- ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) _/ \ \/\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (lifetime forwarding address) / / (503)370-9969 phone/fax __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com
t-and-f: Regional Qualifying (long)
I'm also a bit surprised that there has been no discussion here re: the NCAA approval of regional qualifying, and I was hoping someone else would initiate the discussion. Having seen none, I'll then take it on myself to announce that, in fact, the NCAA Division I Board of Directors (18 university presidents), last Thursday approved (a) 40% increase in field size for men's and women's Division I NCAA Outdoor Championships, and (b) the regional qualifying concept. You can get the details of the vote at: http://www1.ncaa.org/membership/governance/division_I/docs/mgmt_council/mgmt_c ouncil_April_2002/Joint_report.htm For a detailed description of what the NCAA T&F Committee and NCAA Division I Championships Cabinet had asked for, (their rationale, the history of the proposal, and survey results), and what the Division I Management Council had approved by overwhelming margins three times before last week's Board approval, go to: http://www1.ncaa.org/membership/governance/division_I/docs/board_of_dirs/2002_ 04_Board_of_Directors/Agenda_4_25_02_Board.htm ; go to 11.d. and click on "supplement 11." Both regional qualifying and the field size increase will go into effect with the 2003 NCAA Outdoor Championships in Sacramento. Those Championships will now be staged on June 11-14. Next year's regional meets will be staged on May 30-31. The NCAA T&F Committee will shortly be sending out a letter to all NCAA Division I institutions soliciting bids for the four (4) regional meets. Much of the framework for the regional qualifying setup has been established from meetings of an ad hoc committee made up of NCAA T&F Committee members as well as representatives from the USTCA/Division I Coaches Association, which met initially in Chapel Hill, NC in January, 1999. Their recommendations were reported to the Coaches Association at their December, 1999 convention in Los Angeles. There remains much refining to be done of the mechanics of how the system will work, for example, the format for the 2-day regional meets and for the expanded NCAA Championships themselves, how the at-large process will be managed,etc. The NCAA T&F Committee has invited the Coaches Association to partner with them in further defining these parameters. I'm sure that critics will resume flaming this concept as they've done in the past, and I'm just as sure that the next few years will find this process evolving as we iron out the flaws that the critics will rightfully point out. However, IMHO, the addition of regional qualifying and expansion of our Championships will set collegiate track & field back on a road to recovery in the form of increased attendance and attention from fans and media. (And my good friends, Scott, DJ and Mark-- any increased attendance and attention will enhance your great meets as well! You're a huge part of collegiate track & field, and I can assure you, we'll all still come!) Ralph Lindeman, Head Track Coach US Air Force Academy (President, Division I Coaches Association, USTCA)
RE: t-and-f: Fw: recipe, cakey lumps of tastless gunk
Shrimp Plate $1.99 malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 1:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Fw: recipe, cakey lumps of tastless gunk What's really remarkable is that there have been more posts regarding this hoax than there were regarding Mt. Sac, the upcoming Cardinal Invite or even the Penn Relays. Steve S.
Re: t-and-f: Fw: recipe, cakey lumps of tastless gunk
In a message dated 5/2/02 7:37:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >If it's NOT in jeapardy, what were those officials >doing, just standing around? Why, witnessing, what else? Jim Gerweck Running Times
t-and-f: re: powell & officials
Randy said: Yet American (and World) records require signoff by three certified officials last time I checked. Is Suzy's WR in jeapardy because it wasn't witnessed by enough USATF officials? If it's NOT in jeapardy, what were those officials doing, just standing around? __ To answer the last question: They were probably sitting, not standing. The average age of our T&F officials is Jurassic. Most can't stand long enough to work the meets (ok, its an exaggeration, but not much of one). We are going to be in some serious trouble in 5-10 years when all these guy/gals start showing up at the track in their Rascal Scooters (TM). All those bitching about this should put down the beer & chips and go take an officials test - quickly. If you can read & write, you'll pass. This is more an issue for the future of the sport than all the drugs and lazy coaches/athletes will ever be. MJR
t-and-f: Ralph Lindeman for President!
Of course the anti-regional faction probably wants him strung up, but as a backer of the concept, allow me to publically thank Ralph for his hanging in there for so long and being an important part of getting Regionals realized. It's nice to see that the little guys won one for a change. gh
