t-and-f: Japanese Depth
If any of you are looking for an excellent example of how to generate Marathon depth, check out these 10k track race results from Japan: http://www.tilastopaja.net/results/results.asp?CID=7808802 I count 81 men under 30minutes in a single day of racing... How many US athletes cracked that barrier last season?
t-and-f: Pounding away (was USATF-Rogge story)
OK, it appears some non-US list members are starting to pipe in on this ongoing jibberish re: liberties, rights, US-bashing, Pound's political ambitions and the like. Some simple questions from a simple man down under: 1. Can anyone on this list tell me they believe every member of the US team sent to 2000 Olympics was drug free (deliberate or otherwise)? 2. Can anyone tell me they don't believe it would be in USATF's interest to protect stars caught out in tests? 3. Can anyone tell me the IOC doesn't have grounds to be frustrated with USATF's actions if it is the case that they have acted to protect these stars? That's for starters... we'll see how we go from there.
t-and-f: Alvin's down here
Alvin Harrison is running the Australian summer circuit: Canberra 08 February 2002 Final MEN'S 400 METRE 1. Paul Pearce, VIC 46.23; 2. Alvin Harrison, USA 46.28; 3. Clinton Hill, NSWIS 46.52; 4. Patrick Dwyer, NSWIS 46.66; 5. David Geddes, NSW 46.90; 6. Michael Rehardt, QLD 46.97; 7. Casey Vincent, VIS 47.24; 8. Mark Ormrod, SASI 47.81. http://www.athletics.org.au/events/meets/results.cfm?ObjectID=277 CAMPBELLTOWN (Sydney), 10 February 2002 Preliminaries MEN'S 200 METRE Heat 2: (w:0.6): 1. Alvin Harrison, USA 20.73; 2. Jeremy Dixon, NZL 21.82; 3. Paul Di Bella, QLD 21.85; 4. Craig Sconce, ACT 22.00; 5. Scott Wells, ACT 22.04; 6. Robert Mullard, NSW 22.86. Final MEN'S 200 METRE (w:-2.1): 1. Alvin Harrison, USA 20.54; 2. David Geddes, NSW 21.03; 3. Patrick Johnson, AIS 21.14; 4. Ambrose Ezenwa, NSW 21.15; 5. Darryl Wohlsen, QLD 21.32; 6. Tim Williams, VIS 21.36; 7. Adam Miller, NSWIS 21.55; 8. David Flowers, VIC 21.58. http://www.athletics.org.au/events/meets/results.cfm?ObjectID=278
t-and-f: Fast times in Zatopek 10000m
The last significant outdoor track races of the year produced some interesting performances last night at Melbourne's Annual Zatopek meet. Susie Power, bronze mdeallist from this year's Goodwill Games (and sister of Arkansas Alumni Michael) produced the second fastest Australian time ever in atrociously wet conditions. Time was also 4th fastest in world for 2001: Women 1 Metre 1 Power, Susie, Victoria, 31:26.34. 2 McCann, Kerryn, NSW, 33:06.28. 3 Harvey, Natalie, Victoria, 33:23.56. 4 Christie, Sarah, NZL, 33:39.75. In the men's race 21 year old miler Craig Mottram stepped up and made an impressive 10k debut. He has run 3.35.40, 3.53.06, 7.41.35 and 13.23.94 this year, and raced in GP Final 1500m: 1 Mottram, Craig, Victoria, 28:19.26. 2 Martin, Blair, NZL, 28:27.23. 3 Bezabeh, Sisay, ACT, 28:38.78. 4 Cartwright, Brett, SA, 28:42.10. 5, Gillard, Kim, NSW, 28:48.53. 6 Thompson, Mark, Victoria, 28:48.57. More reporting at http://www.theage.com.au/sport/2001/12/07/FFXF4IAFWUC.html Andre Sammartino A cog in the wheel of the Bayside machine 1999-2000, 2000-1 State League (Men's) Champions Are you hip to our funky groove? http://surf.to/bayside
re:t-and-f: Great Lakes photos
go to http://www.runmichigan.com and click on the great lakes regional photos, there are 20 pages of photos From: Jared Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:10 PM Subject: t-and-f: Great Lakes photos I was wondering if someone knew if there were photos of the Great Lakes Regional posted anywhere on the internet, and where they might be. thanks, Jared
t-and-f: looking for Geb
Leigh Vial ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is a distance runner (PR 1500m 4:01.5), who lives on a farm abutting the Murray River in southern Australia. By necessity, he trains alone through the flat, dusty countryside and along the local river flats. Leigh visited Ethiopia to look at possible ways of assisting the local farmers to improve work practices and productivity. While there, he decided to see if Haile was at home he subsequently penned an excellent article. It is accompanied by a photo and a pop song about Geb, which recently topped the charts there. Find it at http://www.geocities.com/apsoc/Ethiopia.htm Please note that the article, photo and song are for private use only. Copyright remains with the authors.
t-and-f: The list
This is to follow up concerns regarding the perceived drop-off in the quality of the list. One of the issues i have as a non-US participant (I reside down under), is that track and field is not the major topic of discussion over the period Oct, Nov, Dec etc, as the list gets extremely US-centric and College X-C etc becomes the focus. I have no particular problem with this, as I accept the majority of list members are interested in these comps. One issue for me (and perhaps others, i don't know), is that i don't actually have a complete grasp on the NCAA system. I don't understand what the purpose of Pre-Nats are - is it just to see the course/opposition or was there some value in performing in terms of qualification? In essence I have a series of questions that i couldn't find answers to very easily on the NCAA/collegerunning sites: 1. How do schools qualify for NCAA champs? 2. How do individuals qualify? 3. What is the role of divisional champs and how come some schools don't have a divisional alignment? 4. How do at large quals work? 5. Why are there no rankings/predictions of individuals' race results/rankings similar to the Team rankings? Background to my interest/questions and an example you might use to illustrate your explanation: an old clubmate of mine Marty Fedmowski is at Butler in Indianapolis... they don't seem to be in a conference... but they beat a couple of the ranked schools at Pre-Nats... what do they to qualify And he finished 9th in his Pre-nats Race and probably 25-26th overall... does this make any difference to his chance of running at Champs? Thanks in advance to anyone who can remedy my ignorance/confusion... And maybe this might serve as a reminder that not all on here are from the US and that your systems are far from transparent... (Other topics i might raise in the future include what the hell is NAIA basketball and why would we see it on cable here?) Oh, and i love GH and Malmo's jokes... they lighten up what can be dreary reading... Thanks, Andre Sammartino A cog in the wheel of the Bayside machine 1999-2000, 2000-1 State League (Men's) Champions Are you hip to our funky groove? http://surf.to/bayside
t-and-f: Women's AOY
Catherine Ndereba's Chicago effort has really thrown the cat amongst the pigeons... does Takahashi fall off the radar as a chance for AOY now? How does one compare two WR, both of which are seen of greater value/merit than Dragila'a and Menendez'? We've had to add Ndereba to our list of AOY candidates despite the poll being have way thru... Andre Sammartino A cog in the wheel of the Bayside machine Come vote in our Athlete-of-the-year polls http://surf.to/bayside
t-and-f: AOY Poll
We at the Bayside Athletics webpage just ran an Australian Athlete of the Year Poll that attracted some interest, and wasn't too traumatic for us coders/counters. So we're doing it again for a Global one. Consider it your chance to pretend you get to vote in the slightly more illustrious Track and Field News one. We have adopted the same format i.e. Pick your top ten male and female lists. We give roughly 40 to choose from on either side. The list should include all the Champs from Edmonton plus most World Leaders and is filled out with the top 25 or so from the IAAF's dodgy overall rankings. Anyway, we hope you enjoy it. Oh, and the deadline is Oct 12. Happy voting, Andre Sammartino A cog in the wheel of the Bayside machine 1999-2000, 2000-1 State League (Men's) Champions Are you hip to our funky groove? http://surf.to/bayside
Re: t-and-f: 30 year (very) old thing
Didn't the immortal Michael Johnson have just a story a major champs - food poisoning our whatever? And form from a previous season is old news... At what point do we stop accepting that form varies/improves/declines? otherwise i can give you a list of future Olympians who i beat as a 13 year old... i always thought it was dodgy that they made it and i didn't... At 03:59 PM 8/27/2001, Prof. Uri Goldbourt wrote: A story would be needed to explain a 7th place in the Olympic final last year - if stories are the order of the day. UG --- At 09:12 27/08/01 +1000, Andre Sammartino wrote: Story that was reported by Eurosport commentators that we get here in Australia was that Boulami was given a pain-killing injection prior to the Edmonton final and that it wasn't administered very well... the phrase we would have used at high school would be 'dead leg'...
t-and-f: 30 year (very) old thing
Story that was reported by Eurosport commentators that we get here in Australia was that Boulami was given a pain-killing injection prior to the Edmonton final and that it wasn't administered very well... the phrase we would have used at high school would be 'dead leg'...
t-and-f: AOY discussions
On this issue of prospective AOYs for 2001, any view on Jonathon Edwards' chances?... has 4 longest jumps plus 7th and 9th...and only outdoor loss appears to have been by 9cm in Helsinki GP... and he has jumped about fairly regularly given event is non-GP (a real hindrance for non glamour events... so is his season over (or is he off to Goodwill Games)? Interestingly given talk of Bucher's chances, i can't remember Kipketer being AOY in his stellar seasons (1996, 1997)... this stuff doesn't seem to be archived at the TFN site... Also any view on El Guerrouj's potential position given he has gone undefeated?... or is this a case of not matching up to his previous standards?
Re: t-and-f: Entine's flaws
but the statement that 92 of the top 100 times are held by those of mostly African ancestry is still wrong... it can only be 82... it's just poor data collection undermining what are substantive claims... for what it's worth my view here is that the discussion is about probabilities... Entine is probably correct in that the probability of a given East African being capable of world class middle to long-distance performances is higher than a non-East African, and likewise that the probability of a West African being capable of world class sprint performances is higher than a non-West African... but it's only probabilities... the beauty of the stochastic nature of the process is that there are always freaks who mess with the numbers... so maybe it becomes an issue of freak frequency (almost went for the pun there)... and then there's hard work, training, opportunity, environment, discrimination, resources etc... uh-oh, we're back on this train again! why do we get sucked in? At 10:15 AM 8/15/2001, P.F.Talbot wrote: So this looks like only 7 non-Africans have produced times in the top 100 all time, right? I'd put Juantorena on the list though (maybe that was his 8th). On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Andre Sammartino wrote: Jon, I don't understand where you are getting these numbers from... each time you reappear on this list to boost book sales you undermine your credentials substanitally by citing WRONG numbers. Where is the 800m evidence you cite? my check of Peter Larsson's top 100 performances all-time produces this list of non-africans 3 1.41,73Sebastian Coe 11 1.42,33Sebastian Coe 18 1.42,58Vebjørn Rodal 39 1.42,88Steve Cram 40 1.42,90André Bucher 42 1.42,92André Bucher 43 1.42,95Vebjørn Rodal 45 1.42,97Peter Elliott 54 1.43,07Sebastian Coe 60 1.43,12André Bucher 64 1.43,17Yuriy Borzakovskiy 67 1.43,19Steve Cram 72 1.43,22Steve Cram 75 1.43,25Vebjørn Rodal 84 1.43,31André Bucher 91 1.43,34André Bucher 98 1.43,38Sebastian Coe 98 1.43,38Rich Kenah http://www.algonet.se/~pela2/mtrack/m_800ok.htm That's 18, not 8! And if you in fact meant all time performers, then the top 100 at Hanserik Pettersson's site includes these lot (i may have a couple wrong here through not knowing who/what they are/were (ugly terminology, but we are playing this game)): 2 1.41.73 Sebastian Coe 5 1.42.58 Vebjörn Rodal 12 1.42.88 Steve Cram 13 1.42.90 André Bucher 14 1.42.97 Peter Elliott 22 1.43.17 Yuriy Borzakovskiy 31 1.43.38 Richard Kenah 37 1.43.56 Rob Druppers 45 1.43.65 Willi Wülbeck 49 1.43.74 Andrea Longo 52 1.43.7h Marcello Fiasconaro 53 1.43.84 Olaf Beyer 54 1.43.84 Martin Steele 55 1.43.86 Ivo Van Damme 57 1.43.88 Donato Sabia 58 1.43.88 Tom McKean 59 1.43.90 Einars Tupuritis 62 1.43.91 Johan Botha 63 1.43.92 John Marshall 65 1.43.92 Andrea Benvenuti 67 1.43.95 Philippe Collard 68 1.43.95 Giuseppe D'Urso 71 1.43.98 David Sharpe 72 1.43.98 Bram Som 73 1.43.9h José Marajo 75 1.44.01 Marko Koers 76 1.44.03 Peter Braun 79 1.44.07 Lucijano Susanj 80 1.44.09 Steve Ovett 81 1.44.10 Vladimir Graudyn 82 1.44.10 Ari Suhonen 84 1.44.14 Lee Jin-il 88 1.44.22 Nils Schumann 92 1.44.25 Vasiliy Matveyev 94 1.44.38 Ryszard Ostrowski 96 1.44.3h+ Peter George Snell 97 1.44.3hy-.6 Jim Ryun 98 1.44.3h Dave Wottle http://w1.196.telia.com/~u19603668/atb-m04.htm That's 38... Please explain your sources... Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:02:57 -0700 From: Jon Entine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... I did discuss this numerous times, and most recently in my post a while back about why Brits will are doing so lousy. The FACT is...and you can check the lists of top times and top runners..is that you and others have swallowed a MYTH that there were a lot of runners of US, UK and Northern European stock that were setting the world on fire years ago. There were a few great races by a handful of great runners such as Cram and Coe competing in a field in which most of the rest of the world did not compete, particularly runners from Africa, most of Asia, and South America. Now that the field is more level, the best talent comes to the top. Again, check the lists of top times and runners... Those so-called great times of years ago pale in comparison RELATIVE to the population numbers AND overall. In the 800 metres, for instance, 92 of the top 100 times are held by those of mostly African ancestry. Was Coe a great runner. Of course. And we will always have great runners. But he was no where near the consistent level of a Kipketer or Cruz. ... *** Paul Talbot Department of Geography/ Institute of Behavioral Science University of Colorado
RE: t-and-f: Entine's flaws
i have tried to remove as many folks as possible from the lists in a similar straw-clutching fashion as Jon... At 11:09 AM 8/15/2001, malmo wrote: Cruz mostly African ancestry? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andre Sammartino Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 8:32 PM To: P.F.Talbot Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Entine's flaws but the statement that 92 of the top 100 times are held by those of mostly African ancestry is still wrong... it can only be 82... it's just poor data collection undermining what are substantive claims... for what it's worth my view here is that the discussion is about probabilities... Entine is probably correct in that the probability of a given East African being capable of world class middle to long-distance performances is higher than a non-East African, and likewise that the probability of a West African being capable of world class sprint performances is higher than a non-West African... but it's only probabilities... the beauty of the stochastic nature of the process is that there are always freaks who mess with the numbers... so maybe it becomes an issue of freak frequency (almost went for the pun there)... and then there's hard work, training, opportunity, environment, discrimination, resources etc... uh-oh, we're back on this train again! why do we get sucked in? At 10:15 AM 8/15/2001, P.F.Talbot wrote: So this looks like only 7 non-Africans have produced times in the top 100 all time, right? I'd put Juantorena on the list though (maybe that was his 8th). On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Andre Sammartino wrote: Jon, I don't understand where you are getting these numbers from... each time you reappear on this list to boost book sales you undermine your credentials substanitally by citing WRONG numbers. Where is the 800m evidence you cite? my check of Peter Larsson's top 100 performances all-time produces this list of non-africans 3 1.41,73Sebastian Coe 11 1.42,33Sebastian Coe 18 1.42,58Vebjørn Rodal 39 1.42,88Steve Cram 40 1.42,90André Bucher 42 1.42,92André Bucher 43 1.42,95Vebjørn Rodal 45 1.42,97Peter Elliott 54 1.43,07Sebastian Coe 60 1.43,12André Bucher 64 1.43,17Yuriy Borzakovskiy 67 1.43,19Steve Cram 72 1.43,22Steve Cram 75 1.43,25Vebjørn Rodal 84 1.43,31André Bucher 91 1.43,34André Bucher 98 1.43,38Sebastian Coe 98 1.43,38Rich Kenah http://www.algonet.se/~pela2/mtrack/m_800ok.htm That's 18, not 8! And if you in fact meant all time performers, then the top 100 at Hanserik Pettersson's site includes these lot (i may have a couple wrong here through not knowing who/what they are/were (ugly terminology, but we are playing this game)): 2 1.41.73 Sebastian Coe 5 1.42.58 Vebjörn Rodal 12 1.42.88 Steve Cram 13 1.42.90 André Bucher 14 1.42.97 Peter Elliott 22 1.43.17 Yuriy Borzakovskiy 31 1.43.38 Richard Kenah 37 1.43.56 Rob Druppers 45 1.43.65 Willi Wülbeck 49 1.43.74 Andrea Longo 52 1.43.7h Marcello Fiasconaro 53 1.43.84 Olaf Beyer 54 1.43.84 Martin Steele 55 1.43.86 Ivo Van Damme 57 1.43.88 Donato Sabia 58 1.43.88 Tom McKean 59 1.43.90 Einars Tupuritis 62 1.43.91 Johan Botha 63 1.43.92 John Marshall 65 1.43.92 Andrea Benvenuti 67 1.43.95 Philippe Collard 68 1.43.95 Giuseppe D'Urso 71 1.43.98 David Sharpe 72 1.43.98 Bram Som 73 1.43.9h José Marajo 75 1.44.01 Marko Koers 76 1.44.03 Peter Braun 79 1.44.07 Lucijano Susanj 80 1.44.09 Steve Ovett 81 1.44.10 Vladimir Graudyn 82 1.44.10 Ari Suhonen 84 1.44.14 Lee Jin-il 88 1.44.22 Nils Schumann 92 1.44.25 Vasiliy Matveyev 94 1.44.38 Ryszard Ostrowski 96 1.44.3h+ Peter George Snell 97 1.44.3hy-.6 Jim Ryun 98 1.44.3h Dave Wottle http://w1.196.telia.com/~u19603668/atb-m04.htm That's 38... Please explain your sources... Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:02:57 -0700 From: Jon Entine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... I did discuss this numerous times, and most recently in my post a while back about why Brits will are doing so lousy. The FACT is...and you can check the lists of top times and top runners..is that you and others have swallowed a MYTH that there were a lot of runners of US, UK and Northern European stock that were setting the world on fire years ago. There were a few great races by a handful of great runners such as Cram and Coe competing in a field in which most of the rest of the world did not compete
t-and-f: AOY - try listing and see how you go
The debate here seems to be floundering on the identity of challengers to our Polish Pedestrian. Here's my top 10 =-11 1. Korzenioswki - only doubler at Olympic has to count 2. Alekna - no.2 performance all time and victory in best quality championship DT comp in many a year, 8 of top 10 throws for year (not including whole lot of ancillaries) 3. Greene - not as impressive as recent years, but still managed 5 fastest times and 6 sub-10 4. Zelezný - wasn't neccessarily favourite going into Olympics, but pulled out a beauty... does managing to 3-peat make up for a couple of defeats on the circuit and big throws by competitors? 5. Michael Johnson - someone so dominant needs to be at least this high - umming and ahhing about whether he should be above Zelezný 6. Jonathon Edwards - pretty dominant all year 7. Gebrselassie - probably should be higher but underraced... 10k final was THE race of the year 8 Ngeny - same as Geb, under-raced - feels strange to leave El-G out as he was cruising for a spot until Sydney 9. Pedroso, still best in his event and produced big clutch jump in Sydney 10. Garcia maybe, El-G maybe or Taylor Are there similar debates on women's side? contenders? jones, szabo, dragila, hattestad, freeman, devers (?), privalova?
t-and-f: AA Information Release - Throws Competition - Blacktown Athletic Track, Sydney - 18th September 2000
ATHLETICS AUSTRALIA INFORMATION RELEASE Results of the Pre-Olympic Throws Competition held at Blacktown Athletic Track, Sydney on 18th September 2000 WOMEN Discus Throw - 1. Beatrice Faumuina (NZL) 63.40m; 2. Kris Kuehl (USA) 61.36m; 3. Kari Monia (TUN) 58.08m Hammer Throw - 1. Dawn Ellerbe (USA) 66.66m; 2. Lisa Misapeka (AMS) 60.76m MEN Discus Throw - 1. Ian Winchester (NZL) 61.50m; 2. Frits Potgeiter (RSA) 60.49m; ND - Jason Gervais (CAN) Hammer Throw - 1. Miloslav Konopka (SVK) 71.26m Brian Roe Competitions Manager This information has been provided by: Athletics Australia, Suite 22, Fawkner Towers, 431 St Kilda Road, Melbourne, Victoria, 3004, Australia Ph: 61 3 98203511 Fax: 61 3 9820 3544 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.athletics.org.au - You've got 'til 7pm Tuesday (your time) to enter the Bayside/Brooks Olympics tipping comp http://surf.to/bayside
Re: (fwd) t-and-f: Clausen Local Confidence/Everett Outdoes E.T.
At least if he races in them there'll be something to giggle at other than his clumsy running style http://www.olympics.smh.com.au/athletics/2000/09/18/FFX2YXJ69DC.html and check out the picture of Mark Everett, too. Hurry up if you want to enter the Bayside/Brooks Olympics tipping comp http://surf.to/bayside
t-and-f: bahamas looking for gold
Bahamas plot relay replay http://www.olympics.smh.com.au/athletics/2000/09/19/FFXVK6U59DC.html When Pauline Davis-Thompson saw Cathy Freeman at the training track yesterday, the pair engaged in a brief conversation. Davis-Thompson was a silver medallist in the 400metres at the 1995 world championships in Gothenburg, one of two to pass a spent Freeman in the dying metres to take the minor medals behind Marie-Jose Perec. Davis-Thompson did not continue in the 400m, preferring to drop back to the shorter sprints. She has some claims to individual honours here, but Davis-Thompson is also the mainstay in the 4x100 metres relay team for the Bahamas. They're determined to win, too. ''We're going to beat the Americans,'' she told Freeman. (more at link) - You've got 'til 7pm Tuesday to enter the Bayside/Brooks Olympics tipping comp http://surf.to/bayside
t-and-f: mystery solved?
I think i may have managed to manoeuvre my way through the impenetrable mass that is the official Olympics site and find the fields for the various track and field events. No idea how i got to the page or where the links to it might be... Here goes: The list of men's 100m runners: http://www.olympics.com/eng/sports/AT/ATM001/index.html then click on "participants" or full link: http://www.olympics.com/eng/sports/AT/ATM001/index.html?/eng/sports/AT/ATM00 1/part.html (sorry if that's scrolled over... you may need to do some cut and pasting) men's 200m is: http://www.olympics.com/eng/sports/AT/ATM002/index.html?/eng/sports/AT/ATM00 2/part.html Womens 400m is: http://www.olympics.com/eng/sports/AT/ATW004/index.html?/eng/sports/AT/ATW00 4/part.html etc... The coding gets illogical by the time we get to field events and the like... The way to get to another event is by clicking on the "choose an event" link, then once there clicking the "participants" link again The lists are in order of country and appear to be the (up to) four entrants as declared by each country (for example Gainsford-Taylor, Hewitt, Freeman and Peris-Kneebone in the 200m women's for Australia of which 3 will be running). Clicking on the athlete's names reveal seasonal and personal bests... Lists appear to have been posted yesterday afternoon. Does anyone know if these are the final postings? A couple of questions answered by lists: Masterkova is NOT listed in 800m (but is in 1500m) Szabo is listed in both 1500m and 5000m O'Sullivan is listed in 1500m, 5000m and 10,000m Full relay squads are also listed. This should help you all with your entries in the Bayside/Brooks Olympic Tipping Competition http://surf.to/bayside And bravo to Olympics team for pursing the old "bells and whistles" approach rather than user-friendliness... I'm off to find a feedback page...
t-and-f: AA Information Release - Results of Pre-Olympic Warmup Meet held on SIAC #1 Track, Sydney on Thursday, 14th September 2000
ATHLETICS AUSTRALIA INFORMATION RELEASE Results of Pre-Olympic Warmup Meet held on SIAC #1 Track, Sydney on Thursday, 14th September 2000 MEN 100 metres Heat 1: (-0.3) 1. Deji Aliu (NGR) 10.19; 2. Mathew Quinn (RSA) 10.48; 3. Dejan Jojnovic (CRO) 10.60; 4. Slaven Krajacic (CRO) 10.71; 5. Iram Lewis (BAH) 10.72; 6. Wellington Saunders (BAH) 10.80; 7. Tihomir Buinjac (CRO) 10.81; 8. Sylvanus Hepburn (BAH) 11.07; DNF - Ronald Promesse (STL) Heat 2: (+0.9) 1. Jorge Richardson (PUR) 10.51; 2. Heber Viera (URU) 10.54; 3. Osvaldo Nieves (PUR) 10.63; 4. Mark Howard (IRL) 10.64; 5. Donal McCarthy (IRL) 10.68; 6. Alvin Henry (TRI) 10.70; 7. Slobodan Spasic (YUG) 10.75; 8. Shane Dyer (TRI) 10.92; 9. Marko Jankovic (YUG) 11.04 Heat 3: (-0.3) 1. Antoine Boussombo (GAB) 10.48; 2. Rolan Blanco (GUA) 10.74; 3. Gary Ryan (IRL) 10.74; 4. Fernando Augustin (MRI) 10.79; 5. Boonyarit Phuksachat (THA) 10.79; 6. Eric Nkansah (GHA) 10.85; 7. Nicholas Hogan (MRI) 10.97; 8. Kelsey Nakanelua (AMS) 11.13; 9. Nelson Lucas (SEY) 11.18; 10. Abraham Kepsin (VAN) 11.30 Heat 4: (+0.9) 1. Claudio Souza (BRA) 10.45; 2. John McAdorey (IRL) 10.52; 3. Oscar Meneses (GUA) 10.57; 4. Jonathan Chimier (MRI) 10.75; 5. Barnabe Jolicoeur (MRI) 10.79; 6. Alpha Kamara (SLE) 10.85; 7. (ANT) 10.90; 8. Ommanandsingh Kowlessur (MRI) 11.07; DNF -Benjamin Sirimou (CMR) Heat 5: (+1.9) 1. Abu Duah (GHA) 10.42; 2. Eric N'Dri (CIV) 10.44; 3. Simon Gabrval (ARG) 10.54; 4. Idrissa Sanou (BKF) 10.56; 5. Shaun Bownes (RSA) 10.57; 6. Alfred Moussambane (CMR) 10.61; 7. Jose Tinoco (GUA) 10.63 200 metres (+1.4): 1. Benjamin Youla (CGO) 21.31; 2. Nelson Lucas (SEY) 22.19 300 metres: Heat 1: 1. Clement Chukwu (NGR) 32.72; 2. Eric Milazar (MRI) 32.79; 3. Omar Loum (SEN) 33.31; 4. Carlifornia Molefe (BOT) 33.58; 5. Youssoupha Sarr (SEN) 33.80; 6. Pascal Dangbo (BEN) 34.01; 7. Muhammad al Bishi (KSA) 34.17; Bilal al Howasah (KSA) 34.37 Heat 2: 1. Sanjay Ayne (JAM) 32.81; 2. Lulu Basinyi (BOT) 33.13; 3. Benjamin Youla (CGO) 33.35; 4. Gordon Kennedy (IRL) 33.36; 5. Hamed al Bishi (KSA) 33.80; 6. Tobokane Mosetlha (BOT) 33.98; 7. Abduallah al Howsah (KSA) 34.33; DSQ- Agrippa Matshimenko (BOT) Heat 3: 1. Labidi Sofiane (TUN) 32.56; 2. Timothy Munnings (BAH) 32.98; 3. Johnson Kubisa (BOT) 33.54; 4. Daniel Adomarco (GHA) 34.24; 5. Gustavo Aguirre (ARG) 34.27; 6. Emmanual Asante (GHA) 34.87; 7. Kelsey Nakanelua (AMS) 35.59; 8. Coby Miller (USA) 43.96 Heat 4: 1. Juan Toledo (MEX) 32.87; 2. Dennis Darling (BAH) 33.15; 3. Carl Oliver (BAH) 33.33; 4. N'kosie Barnes (ANT) 33.64; 5. Nathaniel Martey (GHA) 33.74; 6. Wilan Louis (BAR) 33.89; 7. Goran Gajovic (YUG) 34.82 600 metres: 1. Glody Dube (BOT) 1.15.00; 2. Zach Whitmarsh (CAN) 1.16.44; 3. Fabian Rollins (BAR) 1.16.87; 4. Tbc 1.16.95; 5. Tbc 1.17.37; 6. Tbc 1.17.61; 7. Belhaj Mohamed Habib (TUN) 1.17.69; 8. Djamel Belaid (ALG) 1.19.95; 9. Faig Bajirov (AZE) 1.24.46 1000 metres: 1. Japhet Kimutai (KEN) 2.17.73; 2. Kevin Sullivan (CAN) 2.18.173. Arthemon Hatungimana (BUR) 2:18.20; 4. Patrick Nduwimana (BUR) 2.18.39; 5. Bernard Lagat (KEN) 2.18.70; ; 6. Milton Browne (BAR) 2.18.20 2000 metres (mixed): 1. Mark Carroll (IRL) 5.04.97; 2. (YUG) 5.05.64; 3. Lofti Turki (TUN) 5.12.93; 4. Joel Bourgeois (CAN); 5. Primo Higa (SOL) 5.51.57; DNF - Tony Casey (USA) 3000 metres: 1. Nick Rogers (USA) 7.45.97; DSQ - Alan Culpepper and Adam Goucher (illegal pacing) 4x100m Relay (Round 1) Heat 1: Jamaica 39.10; 2. Trinidad 39.53; 3. Bahamas 39.69; 4. Ivory Coast 39.71; 5. Puerto Rico 40.55; DNF - Cameroun Heat 2: 1. Brazil 38.67; 2. Thailand 39.47; 3. Ireland 39.77; 4. Guatamala 40.04; 5. Mauritius 40.28; DSQ - Liberia 4x100m Relay (Round 2) Heat 1: 1. Brazil 38.45; 2. Mauritius A 39.19; 3. Liberia 39.85; 4. Guatemala 39.92; 5. Ireland 40.31 Heat 2: 1. Bahamas 39.48; 2. Mauritius B 40.46; 3. Puerto Rico 40.48; DQ - Thailand; DNF - Croatia 110m Hurdles (-0.5): 1. Shaun Bownes (RSA) 13.51; 2. Marco Souza (BRA) 13.82; 3. Peter Coughlan (IRL) 13.93; 4. Berlioz Randrimahaja (MAD) 14.25; 5. Paul Szehue (LBR) 14.37; 6. Charles Allen (GUY) 14.47 400m Hurdles Heat 1: 1. Yvon Rakotoarimiandry(MAD) 49.84; 2. Kemel Thompson (JAM) 49.90; 3. Sinisa Pesa (YUG) 50.92; 4. Mowen Boino (PNG) 52.13 Heat 2: 1. James Carter (USA) 49.90; 2. Alwyn Myburgh (RSA) 49.95; 3. Paul Tucker (GUY) 51.47; 4. Ian Harnden (ZIM) 53.70 High Jump: 1. Hammad Abderrahmane (ALG) 2.30m; 2. Nathan Leeper (USA) 2.20m; 3. Jin Taek Lee (KOR) 2.15m; 4. Kenny Evans (USA) 2.10m; 5. Claston Bernard (JAM) 2.00m Pole Vault: NH - Claston Bernard (JAM) Long Jump: 1. Daniel Jahic (YUG) 7.91m (+0.4); 2. Dwight Phillips (USA) 7.84m (+3.1); 3. Savante Stringfellow (USA) 7.83m (+2.4); 4. Nelson Carlos (BRA) 7.76m (+1.3); 5. Sinisa Ergotic (CRO) 7.72m (0.0); 6. Teko Georges Folligan (TOG) 7.49m (+0.4); 7. Arnaud Casquette (MRI) 7.36m (0.0); 8. Mark Anthony (GHA) 7.36m (+0.9) Triple Jump: 1. Andrew Murphy (AUS) 16.68m (+1.3); 2. Walter Davis (USA) 16.58m (-0.4); 3. Brian Wellman (BER) 16.50m
t-and-f: pre-olympic chucking of stuff
Complete results of Pre-Olympic Throws Meet held at Blacktown (Sydney) on Wednesday evening 13th September 2000 ATHLETICS AUSTRALIA INFORMATION RELEASE MEN Discus: 1. Frits Potgieter (RSA) 63.14m; 2. Ian Winchester (NZL) 59.74m; 3. Marcelo Pugliese (ARG) 58.28m Javelin: 1. Rigoberto Calderon (NCA) 68.23m WOMEN Discus: 1. Nicoleta Grasu (ROM) 65.66m; 2. Monia Kari (TUN) 57.49m Javelin: 1. Felicia Tilea (ROM) 60.75m Hammer: 1. Yipsi Moreno (CUB) 65.41m; 2. Ivana Brkljacic (CRO) 62.32m Brian Roe Competitions Manager This information has been provided by: Athletics Australia, Suite 22, Fawkner Towers, 431 St Kilda Road, Melbourne, Victoria, 3004, Australia Ph: 61 3 98203511 Fax: 61 3 9820 3544 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.athletics.org.au André Sammartino Reckon you know your stuff? Come try our Olympics track and field tipping comp http://surf.to/bayside
t-and-f: Re: [OZTRACK] IOC approved EPO Test scandal
While we're on the topic of TV docos, there has been a very interesting 3-part series on the current state of world athletics running on SBS on Tuesday nights at 8.30pm... first two looked at role of IAAF, increases in prizemoney, chase for $$ by shoe companies, drug use... focus on HSI group, Michael Johnson, Marion Jones, Christian Malcolm... final episode tonight: 8.30 THE CUTTING EDGE: THE GOLDRUSH - The Olympic Nightmare - Genetic doping will, in the future, grow muscle without exercise and without trace. This episode also investigates the wider Olympic movement. Can the Olympic organisers salvage the original idealism of the earlier games amid the cynical commercialism of today's world? And meet the losers - those who are now forgotten for losing by a fraction of a second. (From Germany, in English). *Final* André Sammartino Reckon you know your stuff? Come try our Olympics track and field tipping comp http://surf.to/bayside
t-and-f: geting us back to the Olympic prediction thang
Here's some more half-assed prognostications: Women's 100m: 1. Jones, for gold medal no.1 (the biggest certainty of her five events) 2. Ottey, presuming she gets a run, for her most impressive Olympic showing and a big story 3. Thanou, been in hiding but ran fast early on 4. Miller, better over 200m 5. Ferguson 6. Pintusevich-Block 7. Arron, after terrible start 8. Sturrup Time: 10.69 Women's 200m 1. Jones, may be tiring by now, with LJ distractions 2. Miller, will run a tiring Jones close 3. Ferguson 4. Freeman, in new Australian record 5. Gainsford-Taylor 6. Perry 7. Davis-Thompson 8. Jayasinghe (or Hewitt for three aussies) Time 21.89 Women's 400m 1. Freeman, and the stadium will roar 2. Merry, let's see if linford has her tapered right 3. Guevara, strong 4. Nazarova, darkhorse, could be biggest threat 5. Colander-Richardson, peaked two months ago 6. Ogunkoya 7. Graham 8. Collins Time 49.20 (and much quicker if Perec turns up) Women's 800m 1. Mutola, finally 2. Formanova 3. Miles-Clark, needs more races 4. Graf 5. Tsyganova 6.Tamsyn Lewis, because Coach Peter Fortune (also Cathy freeman's coach) knows what he's doing, and because she runs for Bayside, and because she does have 51s speed and a lot of fighting ability 7. Raspopova 8. Vriesde, because she's always there Time 1.56.98 Women's 1500m 1. Masterkova, maybe... this event is so wide open 2. Jacobs, underraced as always, but is so impressive when on song 3. Favor-Hamilton, why not? 4. Beclea-Szekely 5. Crowley, was 5th in Atlanta, has been off and had a baby, peaking at right time again 6. Dulecha 7. Rogachova 8. Sacramento Time 3.59.95 because it might make a difference to this whole "five golds" thing (although i actually think the 4x4 is as bigger a worry - beware the russians) Women's Long-Jump 1. Kotova, produced a lot of clutch jumps in Golden League this season 2. May, love her to win after she was robbed last year, but she hasn't really got it together 3. Drechsler, and another medal in 2004... 4. Jones, unlike most, i admire her for putting her neck on the line, but her technique is still worse than most 12 year olds 5. Kravets 6. Burrell 7. Johansson 8. Barber? Distance 7.14m And for symmetry's sake Men's Long Jump 1. Beckford, best of an inconsistent bunch 2. Pedroso, dropped form in past month or two 3. Burge, egged on by local crowd, Lamela style 4. Lamela, the big man's back 5. Sosunov, probably the form athlete 6. Lister 7. Taurima, although he's capable of anything from 1st-20th 8. Stringfellow, and goes out partying with Taurima afterwards Distance 8.35m André Sammartino Reckon you know your stuff? Come try our Olympics track and field tipping comp http://surf.to/bayside
t-and-f: spanish team picked
from IAAF page, Spanish team (Estevez was left out) Men - 100 200: Venancio José; 400: David Canal; 4x400: Canal, Iván Rodríguez, Andrés Martínez, Antonio Andrés, Iñigo Monreal; 800: José Maria Cerezo, Roberto Parra; 1,500: Andrés Díaz, José Antonio Redolat, Juan Carlos Higuero; 5,000: Yusef El Nasri, Alberto García; 10,000: Enrique Molina, José Ríos, Teodoro Cuñado; Marathon: Abel Antón, Martín Fiz, Alberto Juzdado; 400 hurdles: Monreal, 3,000 steeplechase: Eliseo Martín, Luis Miguel Martín, Marco Cepeda; pole vault: Montxu Miranda, Javier García Chico; long jump: Yago Lamela; triple jump: Raúl Chapado; shot putt: Manuel Martínez; discus: David Martínez; decathlon: Javier Benet; 20 km walk: Francisco Fernández, David Domínguez, David Marquez; 50 km walk: Jesús Angel García, Valentín Massana, Mikel Odriozola. Women - 400: Norfalia Carabali; 4x400: Carabali, Mayte Martínez, Miriam Bravo, Elena Córcoles, Julia Alba; 800: Mayte Martínez; 1,500: Natalia Rodríguez, Nuria Fernández; 5,000: Marta Domínguez, Beatriz Santiago; 10,000: Teresa Recio, María Abel; Marathon: Ana Isabel Alonso, Griselda González, Maria Luisa Muñoz; high jump: Marta Mendía; pole vault: Mari Mar Sánchez; long jump: Concha Montaner; triple jump: Carlota Castrejana; shot putt: Martina de la Puente; discus: Alice Matejkova; javelin: Marta Miguez; heptathlon: Inma Clopés; 20 km walk: María Vasco, Eva Pérez, Encarna Granados. Does anyone know of a spot with all teams listed? Also for those considering a trip downunder for the 'Lympics (or the Goodwill Games or Grand Prix Final in 2001) don't miss this completely accurate guide to Australian culture: http://www.geocities.com/topaussieguide/ André Sammartino Reckon you know your stuff? Come try our Olympics track and field tipping comp http://surf.to/bayside
Re: (fwd) re: t-and-f: Brussels 10k
It was my understanding that runners had been wearing computer chips in the bibs this season in the big Euro meets, hence the impressive "distance behind" split for the runners in the lead pack that had been coming through each lap on the TV coverage (at least the UK version being shown downunder). I didn't see the Brussels meet. Did they not use this technology? André Sammartino Reckon you know your stuff? Come try our Olympics track and field tipping comp http://surf.to/bayside At 20:43 5/09/00 -0700, R.T. wrote: On Tue, 5 Sep 2000 22:26:40 -0500 (CDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wasn't there a relatively recent IAAF rule requiring lap scorers in the long races and specifying that no lap scorer was supposed to be responsible for more than 3 runners? If so, there should be lap sheets for each runner recording the completion of each lap (and if they were sensible, the approximate split time for each lap -- not to provide splits, but to help spot mistakes.) Maybe I remember incorrectly, and it was only a recommendation or something. We had already been doing this for a long time in indoor meets. Pat Palmer
t-and-f: Rieti Results - Frankie Fredericks is finally back
IAAF Grand Prix II - courtesy of http://www.iaaf.org/ Rieti 2000 Rieti, 03-Sep-2000 RESULTS MEN 100 METRES Race 1 - MEN Wind: +0.1 1 Zakari Abdul AzizGHA 10.13 2 Lewis Brian USA 10.34 3 Mitchell Dennis USA 10.37 4 Ertzgard JohnNOR 10.40 5 Colombo Andrea ITA 10.43 6 Devonish Marlon GBR 10.54 100 METRES Race 2 - MEN Wind: +0.8 1 Scuderi FrancescoITA 10.32 2 Torrieri Marco ITA 10.36 3 Verdecchia Luca ITA 10.41 4 Rabino AndreaITA 10.49 5 Morbidelli Giorgio ITA 10.62 6 Donati Massimiliano ITA 10.64 200 METRES - MEN Wind: +0.3 1 Obikwelu Francis NGR 20.21 2 Moen GeirNOR 20.63 3 Devonish Marlon GBR 20.79 4 Fredericks Frank NAM 20.79 5 Turner Douglas GBR 21.08 6 Donati Massimiliano ITA 21.44 400 METRES - MEN 1 Johnson Michael USA 44.46 2 Richardson Mark GBR 45.14 3 Davis Jerome USA 45.30 4 Attene AlessandroITA 45.47 5 Omodiale Sylvester NGR 46.08 6 Toledo Juan PedroMEX 46.11 800 METRES Race 1 - MEN 1 Longo Andrea ITA1:43.74 2 Yiampoy William KEN1:44.25 3 Hecini Adem ALG1:44.67 4 Gray TrinityUSA1:44.91 5 Korir Paul KEN1:44.97 6 Hatungimana Arthémon BUR1:45.12 7 Téllez Norberto CUB1:45.39 8 Makau CharlesKEN1:45.57 Kiptoo Kipkoech Luke KENDNF 800 METRES Race 2 - MEN 1 Yagoub Babiker Mohammed SUD1:47.45 2 Onyancha Frederick KEN1:47.72 3 Caulfield Daniel IRL1:47.91 4 Giocondi Andrea ITA1:47.99 5 Dineen DarrenIRL1:48.27 6 Dunne Niall IRL1:48.49 Battinelli AlessandroITADNF dos Santos Osmar Barbosa BRADNS GP 1500 METRES - MEN Pts 1 Ngeny Noah KEN3:30.42 5.0 2 Kipkurui BenjaminKEN3:30.73 4.0 3 Boulahfane Kamal ALG3:33.07 3.0 4 Khaldi Mohamed ALG3:33.40 2.0 5 Koech Benson KEN3:35.00 1.0 6 Chirchir Cornelius KEN3:35.16 7 Jennings Gabriel USA3:35.21 8 Keino Martin KEN3:35.67 9 Tanui WilliamKEN3:35.68 10 Sghyr Ismaïl FRA3:36.80 11 Abdellah AbdelhaqMAR3:38.44 12 Bessou Laïd ALG3:38.79 13 Vicari FerdinandoITA3:42.65 Kiptoo David KENDNF Lelei David KENDNF Zorko Branko CRODNF 5000 METRES - MEN 1 Komen Daniel KEN 13:04.43 2 Molina Enrique ESP 13:18.48 3 Bekele Kenenisa ETH 13:20.57 4 Emere Alene ETH 13:21.17 5 Kirui Ismael KEN 13:26.23 6 El Himer Driss FRA 13:28.57 7 Getanda JamesKEN 13:31.02 8 Di Napoli GennaroITA 13:33.02 9 Moussaoui Samir ALG 13:34.42 10 Boulahia Ahmed ALG 13:54.64 11 Arlati AndreaITA 13:57.46 Chékhémani AbdelkaderFRADNF Hauser Bradley USADNF Kibet Robert KENDNF Koskei James KENDNF Maranga EdwinKENDNF Maritim DavidKENDNF Parma StefanoITADNF GP HIGH JUMP - MEN Pts 1 Matusevich KonstantinISR 2.30 5.0 2 Leeper NathanUSA 2.30 4.0 3 Krehmic ElvirBSH 2.20 3.0 4 Klyugin Sergey RUS 2.20 2.0 5 Aleksejev Marko EST 2.20 1.0 6
t-and-f: re: Time to start talking about the games !!
I wholeheartedly agree with the need to focus our energies on Olympic predictions: here's my early prognostications: Men's 100m: 1. Greene, because he was so impressive on Friday night, and J.Smith ain't gonna get it wrong 2. Surin, got a great championship record 3. Drummond, doesn't, but also looked very solid on Friday also 4. Chambers, on the twisted logic that some Brit has to get up 5. Boldon, a better 200m runner 6. Obikwelu, was my tip for silver a month ago, but he seems to have the start problems of Christine Arron and has also lost a bit of pace 7. Johnson 8. Shirvington, which'll give the press far too much to talk about, but he did look as impressive as he's ever looked running 10.11 in a cold olympic stadium at Aus trials a month ago Time: 9.89 Men's 200m 1. Obikwelu, if he can pull out a run like his semi in seville 2. Boldon, just doesn't get the best out himself in championships (can anyone say m.ottey?) 3. Capel, just a bit underdone 4. Heard, love him to get a medal 5. Thompson, making up somewhat for two breaks in 100m semi :) (only way i could get shirvo in) 6. Fredericks, although he wouldn't normally run except when fit his last Olympics may cloud his judgement 7. Miller 8. da Silva Time 19.78, sub 20 down to 5th belying myth that this is a soft event Men's 400m 1. Johnson, with an extremely low 43s WR daylight 2. Haughton, i've got a feeling about him, back to form of a few years back 3. Cardenas, consistently good 4. Harrison 5. Pettigrew 6. Blackwood 7. Baulch 8. Dwyer Time 43.05, but only first 4 inside 45s Men's 800m 1. W.Kipketer, cos i want him to win 2. Said-Guerni, cos he's a superb racer with about the second quickest leg speed in the field 3. Borzakovskiy, cos he has the quickest and will be able to pick off the tiring front runners 4. Kimutai 5. Bucher, leaving his best run in Zurich 6. Tellez 7. Cremer 8. Sepeng Time 1.42.16 (blanket finish, all under 1.44) Mens 1500m 1. El Guerrouj, simply the best 2. Ngeny, has suprisingly under-raced this year, he may produce something special 3. Redolat (because of the spanish traditon, although there is some contention as the trio's idenities - see report on IAAF page) 4. Sullivan 5. Diaz 6. Shabunin 7.Lagat 8. Rotich 9. Maazouzi 10. Silva 11. Bosch 12. Baba Time. 3.28.56 Um, that's enough for now... may come back with some field event and women's shorter races tips later... paid work to do and all that... If folks have the bug for such soothsaying come and try out our aths team's tipping comp... no life-altering prizes, just a whole heap of bragging rights... André Sammartino Reckon you know your stuff? Come try our Olympics track and field tipping comp http://surf.to/bayside
Re: t-and-f: pre-olympic meets downunder (incl.A.Harrison 44.74)
This is getting a far bit of press Down Under: http://www.olympics.smh.com.au/athletics/2000/09/04/FFXI3K82KCC.html They didn't exactly kiss and make-up but they came as close as two big boofy blokes dare after staging a langing match. United States long jumper Savante Stringfellow and his Australian man-at-war Jai Taurima shook hands rather than traded blows when they came face-to-face for the first time yesterday at a pre-Olympic international meeting in Brisbane. Stringfellow was expected to kick sand in Taurima's face after the larrikin Australian made some off-hand remarks about American jumpers being dribblers and unable to jump in the cold because they were "dark". André Sammartino Reckon you know your stuff? Come try our Olympics track and field tipping comp http://surf.to/bayside
Re: t-and-f: pre-olympic meets downunder (incl.A.Harrison 44.74)
Story of contest: http://sport.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,1160603%255E5282,00.html AMERICAN Savante Stringfellow won the long jump at the pre-Olympics meet in Brisbane today, making a mockery of Australian Jai Taurima's taunt that black men could not leap in the cold. Taurima said during the week that the cooler climate in Sydney would mean "you can pretty much knock out all the dark athletes (at the Olympics)". But in Brisbane temperatures of about 17 Celsius, Stringfellow won with two jumps of 8.23 metres before revealing he had competed in his running shoes after leaving his jumping shoes at the team hotel. Taurima was second with 8.13m, with fellow Australian and Commonwealth champion Peter Burge third with 8.10m. "I wish it was a bit cooler," Stringfellow said. "(Apparently) we don't jump real good in that weather." Stringfellow said Taurima had made a mistake in providing him with extra motivation. "If I do this in Sydney I'm going to be real good," Stringfellow said. "This was only a start; I can go a lot further than this. "I wished (Taurima) the best of luck at the Olympics and he told me 'good jumping'. "I'm the bigger man so I went over to him first and told him 'good luck' and shook his hand." André Sammartino Reckon you know your stuff? Come try our Olympics track and field tipping comp http://surf.to/bayside
t-and-f: Olympic drug-testing and preparations
Athletes greeted by drug blitz By Trudy Harris and John Lehmann 04sep00 DRUG testers have swooped on star athletes within hours of their arrival in Australia, marking the start of the biggest-ever Olympics drug-testing regime. As more than 4000 athletes poured in to Sydney at the weekend, SOCOG drug testers moved in, conducting on Saturday the first of 3200 urine tests on Australian and international athletes. The first blood tests for the banned endurance drug erythropoietin (EPO) were also undertaken yesterday as Games officials lived up to their promise to expose cheats at the 2000 Olympics. The testing regime by the International Olympic Committee and Sydney Olympic organisers is substantially higher than the 1900 tests at the 1996 Atlanta Games. British hurdler Colin Jackson was tested within hours of arriving in Brisbane on Saturday along with 10 colleagues. Two were woken by doping officers working for the Australian Sports Drug Agency. "It seems they are testing more than ever. They were tested barely three hours after arriving," said head British athletics coach Max Jones. Dutch world record holder Inge de Bruijn was tested two days after she arrived in Newcastle north of Sydney last month and again within two weeks. "I have been tested twice within two weeks but I have no problem with that," the swimmer said. As the drug tests began, Sydney finally took on the atmosphere of an Olympic city the streets awash with banners and Games workers and volunteers in brightly coloured uniforms. Sydney airport experienced one of its busiest days on Saturday, with 145 aircraft carrying 30,270 passengers. Another 27,000 arrived yesterday, with the troubled luggage system coping with the strain. With only 11 days to go until the opening ceremony, Premier Bob Carr admitted to a bout of pre-Olympic nerves. "We're all nervous this is the biggest peacetime event," he told the Nine network. "The pressures will be immense." Mr Carr and Olympics Minister Michael Knight pinpointed Sydney's fragile rail system as the potential weak link in Games preparations. The Premier called for an end to "any bickering or any arguments or any point scoring" over Games preparations, saying Australia was poised to become the world's "favoured brand" of the next decade. "We're all in it together as Australians, black and white, Liberal and Labor," he said. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/common/story_page/0,4511,1161376%255E601,00. html André Sammartino Reckon you know your stuff? Come try our Olympics track and field tipping comp http://surf.to/bayside
t-and-f: flo-jo
Three is presumably a whole lot more on this floating around the Web: Flo-Jo's doctor believes the world's fastest woman was a drug cheat Yet just 11 days before the Sydney Games, there is open speculation that Florence Griffith Joyner used drugs. An investigation by British newspaper The Sunday Telegraph has added further fuel to suspicions, with a coach speaking of her drug use, and Dr Robert Kerr, a sports injuries specialist who treated her, telling of his conviction that she was a cheat. (much more in this story...) http://www.theaustralian.com.au/common/story_page/0,4511,1161376%255E601,00. html André Sammartino Reckon you know your stuff? Come try our Olympics track and field tipping comp http://surf.to/bayside
t-and-f: pre-olympic meets downunder (incl.A.Harrison 44.74)
ATHLETICS AUSTRALIA INFORMATION RELEASE Sunday 3rd September 2000 Pre Olympic Meet, Nudgee College, Brisbane WOMEN'S 100 METRES (2 heats, collated results) 1. Melinda Gainsford-Taylor, AUS 11.16 w:2.1; 2. Veronica Campbell, JAM 11.18 w:2.1; 3. Nova Peris Kneebone, AUS 11.45 w:2.1; 4. Elly Hutton, AUS 11.54 w:2.0; 5. Atia Weeks, CAN 11.56 w:2.1; 5. Valma Bass, STK 11.56 w:2.1; 7. Sharon Cripps, AUS 11.59 w:2.1; 8. Chantal Brunner, NZL 11.71 w:2.0; 9. Joanne Durant, BAR 11.74 w:2.1; 10. Melissa Medlicott, AUS 11.82 w:2.1; 11. Melanie Kleeberg, AUS 11.87 w:2.0. WOMEN'S 200 METRES 1. Melinda Gainsford-Taylor, AUS 22.73 w:0.8; 2. Nova Peris Kneebone, AUS 23.50 w:0.8; 3. Valma Bass, STK 23.74 w:0.8; 4. Melissa Stralcer, BAR 23.93 w:0.8; 5. Joanne Durant, BAR 24.11 w:0.8; 6. Melanie Kleeberg, AUS 24.15 w:0.8. WOMEN'S 400 METRES 1. Lee Naylor, AUS 52.84; 2. Michelle Burgher, JAM 52.97; 3. Celena Clarke, JAM 53.36; 4. Tayna Oxley, BAR 53.95; 5. Andrea Thomas, JAM 54.11; 6. Sherline Williams, BAR 54.22; 7. Tonya Jordan, BAR 58.34. WOMEN'S 800 METRES 1. Susan Andrews, AUS 2:00.32; 2. Toni Hodgkinson, NZL 2:00.62; 3. Charmaine Howell, JAM 2:04.45; 4. Sarah Jamieson, AUS 2:05.84; 5. Alice Goodbeg, AUS 2:09.61; 6. E Sigbont, AUS 2:10.02; 7. Lisa Corrigan, AUS 2:10.33; 8. Erin Hargrave, AUS 2:10.76. WOMEN'S 1,500 METRES 1. Marla Runyan, USA 4:11.83; 2. Mardrea Hyman, JAM 4:14.21; 3. Anne Cross, AUS 4:15.28; 4. Kate Richardson, AUS 4:22.81. WOMEN'S 400 METRE HURDLES 1. Jana Pittman, AUS 55.61; 2. Petrina Allen, JAM 56.15; 3. Stephaine Price, AUS 56.47; 4. Adriene McIvor, IRL 58.74. WOMEN'S 4x100 METRE RELAY 1. AUS 43.38. WOMEN'S HIGH JUMP 1. Karen Beautle, JAM 1.80m; 2. Alison Inverarity, AUS 1.80m. WOMEN'S LONG JUMP 1. Elva Gouldbourne, JAM 6.74m w:1.2; 2. Lacena Golding, JAM 6.52m w:2.4; 3. Chantal Brunner, NZL 6.47m w:1.8; 4. Bronwyn Thompson, AUS 6.45m w:2.2; 5. Kathleen Norman, QLD 6.05m w:3.4; 6. Jane Jamieson, AUS 5.88m w:1.7. WOMEN'S DISCUS THROW 1. Alison Lever, AUS 63.32m; 2. Deborah Lovely, AUS 52.71m. WOMEN'S HAMMER THROW 1. Debbie Sosimenko, AUS 65.97m; 2. Karyne Perkins, AUS 64.35m; 3. Tasha Williams, NZL 63.85m; 4. Michelle Fournier, CAN 59.39m; 5. Deborah Lovely, AUS 52.79m. WOMEN'S JAVELIN THROW 1. Olivia McKoy, JAM 57.04m. MEN'S 100 METRES (2 heats, collated results) 1. Kim Collins, STK 10.15 w:1.3; 2. Matt Shirvington, AUS 10.25 w:1.3; 3. Lindel Frater, JAM 10.31 w:1.3; 4. Donnovan Powell, JAM 10.33 w:1.3; 5. Dwight Thomas, JAM 10.37 w:1.3; 6. Patrick Johnson, AUS 10.49 w:1.3; 7. Paul Dibella, AUS 10.52 w:1.3; 8. Scott Richardson, AUS 10.64 w:1.3; 9. Tim Williams, AUS 10.71 w:1.3; 10. Pat Birgan, QLD 10.78 w:1.3; 11. Wellington Saunders, BAH 11.02 w:1.3; 12. Scott Ferrier, AUS 11.20 w:1.3. MEN'S 200 METRES 1. Darryl Wohlsen, AUS 20.89 w:0.7; 2. Melvin Lister, USA 21.52 w:0.7. MEN'S 400 METRES Heat 1: 1. Alvin Harrison, USA 44.74; 2. Calvin Harrison, USA 45.17; 3. Davian Clarke, JAM 45.70; 4. Michael Blackwood, JAM 46.02; 5. Michael McDonald, JAM 46.28; 6. Tim Munning, BAH 46.62; 7. Christopher Brown, BAH 46.63; - Fabian Rollins, BAR DQ. Heat 2: 1. Danny McFarlane, JAM 46.52; 2. Brandon Simpson, JAM 46.76; 3. Sanjay Ayer, JAM 46.96; 4. Carl Oliver, BAH 47.12; 5. Brad Jamieson, AUS 47.49; 6. Wilan Louis, BAR 48.53; 7. Eugene Farrell, IRL 48.59; 8. Cameron Brown, AUS 48.87. MEN'S 800 METRES 1. Graham Foley, AUS 1:49.06; 2. Milton Browne, BAR 1:49.13; 3. Isireli Naikekelevesi, AUS 1:49.41; 4. Mark Fountain, AUS 1:51.75. MEN'S 1,500 METRES 1. Duncan Long, AUS 3:49.13; 2. Stuart Bowden, QLD 3:51.19; 3. Abdi Abdirahmen, USA 3:51.37. MEN'S 110 METRE HURDLES 1. Robin Korvene, NED 13.53 w:1.3; 2. Kyle Vander Kuyp, AUS 13.77 w:1.3; 3. Gabriel Burnett, BAR 14.11 w:1.3; 4. Andrew Cameron, AUS 14.39 w:1.3. MEN'S 400 METRE HURDLES 1. Ian Weakley, JAM 49.40; 2. Blair Young, AUS 49.68; 3. Curt Young, PAN 50.56; 4. Victor Houston, BAR 51.13; 5. David Cappelano, AUS 52.62. MEN'S 4X100 METRE RELAY 1. SIERRA LEONE 40.37; 2. AUS "B" 41.84 3. AUS "A" DSQ MEN'S HIGH JUMP 1. Kenny Evans, USA 2.24m; 2. Glen Howard, NZL 2.20m; 3. Dane Richter, AUS 2.05m; 4. Claston Barnard, JAM 2.00m. MEN'S LONG JUMP 1. Savante Stringfellow, USA 8.23m w:0.7; 2. Jai Taurima, AUS 8.13m w:1.1; 3. Peter Burge, AUS 8.10m w:1.0; 4. Erki Nool, EST 7.90m w:1.8; 5. Tim Parravicini, AUS 7.66m w:3.3; 6. Scott Ferrier, AUS 7.17m w:0.6; - Claston Barnard, JAM FOUL w:NWI. MEN'S TRIPLE JUMP 1. Andrew Murphy, AUS 16.46m w:0.9. MEN'S SHOT PUT 1. Justin Anlezark, AUS 19.59m; 2. Rhys Jones, AUS 18.23m; 3. AL Suwaioi Khaud, QATAR 16.68m; 4. Wade Hastie, AUS 15.26m; 5. Claston Barnard, JAM 15.05m; 6. Stuart Rendell, AUS 14.99m; 7. Aaron Fish, AUS 14.61m. MEN'S HAMMER THROW 1. Aaron Fish, AUS 75.62m; 2. Stuart Rendell, AUS 72.58m; 3. Wade Hastie, AUS 62.64m. MEN'S JAVELIN THROW 1. Adrian Hatcher, AUS 82.35m; 2. Andrew Currey, AUS 80.14m. This information has been provided by: Athletics Australia, Suite 22, Fawkner Towers, 431 St Kilda
t-and-f: Longo sets new European best for 600m
Palio Citta della Quercia, Rovereto, Italy, August 30th Men 100m Race A (-0.6): 1. J Laynes (USA) 10.27, 2. T Harden (USA) 10.30, 3. S Tilli 10.33, 4. A Coilombo 10.45, 5. F Scuderi 10.51, 6. D Phillips (USA) 10.69 400m: 1. W Hooker (USA) 45.90, 2. C Chukwu (NGR) 45.93, 3. A Saber 46.84, 4. A Barberi 47.31, 5. A Dos Santos 47.32, 6. M Salvucci 47.64 600m: 1. A Longo 1:14.41, 2. T Gray (USA) 1:14.48, 3. C Makau (KEN) 1:16.40, 4. M De Meo 1:16.95, 5. R Geemy (KEN) 1:17.07, 6. M Kigen (KEN) 1:17.79, 7. A Ceccarelli 1:18.05, 8. L Ruzza 1:25.81, E Vallett dnf, M Meissner dnf 800m Race A: 1. P Korir (KEN) 1:45.20, 2. O Dos Santos (BRA) 1:46.19, 3. G Mazzoni 1:46.92, 4. D Dinneen (USA) 1:47.13, 5. S Rono (KEN) 1:47.48, 6. N Duhne (IRL) 1:48.33, 7. F Onyancha (KEN) 1:48.95, 8. J Mayo (GBR) 1:49.39, 9. C Obrist 1:49.57 1m: 1. D Maritim (KEN) 27:39.31, 2. P Kemei (KEN) 27:40.08, 3. R Kipchumba (KEN) 27:43.14, 4. D Caimmi 27:48.64, 5. M Gamba 28:01.55, 6. M Mazza 28:04.71, 7 .M Haliu 28:40.06, 8. E Mitei 28:43.93, 9. F Simionato 29:29.72, 10. M Galeasso 29:36.37 3000mSC: 1. L Bessou (ALG) 8:21.72, 2. L Di Pardo 8:24.56, 3. J Svenoy (USA) 8:25.82, 4. R Wojcik 8:29.61, 5. G Maffei 8:32,67, 6. M Birir (KEN) 8:35.60, 7. C Smith (IRL) 8:37.23, 8. S Cialella (ITA) 8:37.58, 9. A Carosi 8:37.58, 10. V Pronin (RUS) 8:41.87 HJ: 1. A Sokolowski (UKR) 2.24, 2. Y Rybakov (RUS) 2.21, 3. N Leeper (USA) 2.21 TJ: 1. I Gavrilenko (RUS) 16.55, 2. A Glavatski (RUS) 16.41, 3. R Chapado (ESP) 16.21, 4. R Nachum (ISR) 16.14 JT: 1. M Hill (GBR) 82.29, 2. A Kerer 75.65, 3. P Esenwain (GER) 72.77, 4. T Reich (USA) 71.64, 5. M Roberson (GBR) 70.16 Women 200m (-0.9): 1. B McDonald (JAM) 22.69, 2. J Campbell (JAM) 23.20, 3. M Frazer (JAM) 23.58, 4. D Graglia 24.03, 5. V De Angeli 24.18, 6. M Apollinio24.52 800m: 1. K Holmes (GBR) 2:00.53, 2. J Langat (KEN) 2:01.92, 3. F Dos Santos (BRA) 2:01.95, 4. J Varga (HUN) 2:03.17, 5. L Mikhailova (RUS) 2:03.95, 6. O Mikaeva (RUS) 2:04.29, 7. E Artuso 2:04.74, 8. J Mitchell (GBR) 2:04.74, 9. A Oberstolz 2:05.21 3000m: 1. E Zadorzhnaja (RUS) 8:51.2, 2. R Brunet 8:53.6, 3. M Denboba (ETH) 9:02.5, 4. H Javornik (SLO) 9:03.0, 5. G Urge (ETH) 9:10.6, 6. E Fitzgerald (IRL) 9:12.7, 7. S Weissteiner 9:15.8, 8. M Zanatta 9:19.9, 9. A Balsamo 9:20.8, 10. A Balletta 9:24.9 400mH: 1. T Tereschuk (UKR) 54.71, 2. T Buford-Bailey 56.10, 3. M Niederstatter 56.49, 4. C Scott (JAM) 56.60, 5. L Rocco 57.80 LJ: 1. Y Shekovtsova (UKR) 6.56, 2. Z Aikler (HUN) 6.34, 3. S Jaklofsky (NED) 6.25, 4. J Johnson (GBR) 6.19, 5. T Ter Mesrobian (RUS) 6.19 JT: 1. N Szabo (HUN) 58.15, 2. H Rantanen (FIN) 56.79, 3. C Gigliozzi 46.50 André Sammartino Reckon you know your stuff? Come try our Olympics track and field tipping comp http://surf.to/bayside
RE: t-and-f: Talking tough
Jai's a bit "out there" generally, and it is fair to say, he takes liberties even with Australian-English... Even as a native-speaker, i can only hazard a guess and suggest he means they are babies... or that they tend to spill their beers (a much bigger insult downunder)... Look out for "Jumping Jai" at the Games (if the event/sport gets any coverage up there). He's a very extroverted character, tattoos aplenty, long hair, smokes like a chimney. At the recent trials he opening with a terrible 7.80m or so jump (25 and a half feet?) but jumped around as if he'd broken the world record... asked why... he said he just wanted to wake up the crowd... In a message dated 8/29/00 17:43:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "They only jump big in America, and these guys, these three guys, are a bunch of dribblers, that's all I'm saying. i give up, what's a dribbler? Malmo, where's that Excel Strine-to-English conversion chart? :-) gh Reckon you know your stuff? Come try our Olympics track and field tipping comp http://surf.to/bayside
t-and-f: Ottey 10.99 in Greece, Lamela Jayasinghe back
IAAF Permit Meeting, 30 Aug 2000, Thessaloniki, Greece MEN 100 m. 10''29. Denis Mitchel (USA); 10''32 Donovan Bailey (CAN); 10''36. Coby Miller (USA); 10''40. Davis Patros (FRA); 10''57. Aninos Markoulidis (CYP); 10''63. Roland Nemeth (HUN) 200 m. 20" 55. Cobby Miller (USA); 20" 72. Denis Mitchell (USA); 20" 96. Alexios Alexopoulos (GRE); 21" 17. Anastassios Goussis (GRE); 21" 74. Roshan Griffin (USA); 21" 83. Georgios Assariotakis (GRE). Race 2. 20" 81. Ramas Urbas (POL); 20" 83. Anninos Markoulidis (CYP); 20" 88. Patrick Van Balkom (NED) 400 m. 46" 08. Ibrahim Kwade (FRA); 46" 73. Georgios Economidis (GRE); 46" 74. Stylianos Dimotsios (GRE) 800 m. 1' 44" 45. Ali Hecini (ALG) 400 m. hurdles. 49''03. Samuel Matete (ZAM); 49''35. Periklis Iakovakis (GRE) pb.; 49''94. Eric Thomas (USA); 50''24. Kemel Thompson (JAM); 51''02. Calvin Davis (USA) 3.000 m. steeple. 8'37''48. Abrahan Cherono (KEN); 8'37"60. K. Kosgei (KEN); 8'39"07. L.Walle (ETH) High Jump. 2, 32 m. Mark Boswell CAN); 2, 30 m. Lambros Papakostas (GRE); 2, 23 m. Kwaku Boateg; 2, 15 Constantinos Liapis; 2, 15 m. Dimitrios Tomaras; 2, 15 m. Dimitrios Syrakos, DNM Antony Inteata (NGR) Long Jump. 8, 22 m. Yago lamela (ESP); 8, 17 m. Yonus Mudrik (MAR); 8, 13 m. Carlos Calado (POR); 8, 11 m. James Beckford (JAM); 8, 09 m. Constantinos Koukodimos (GRE); 8, 00 m. Dimitrios Serelis (GRE); 7, 98 m. Gregor Cancar; 7, 96 m. Stergios Noussios (GRE) pb. Hammer Throw 80,21 m. Oli-Pekka Karjalainen (FIN); 79, 81 m. Alexandros Papadimitriou; 79, 12 m. Szymon Ziolkowski (POL), 78, 87 m. Christos Polychroniou, 78, 06 m. Vladimir Maska (CZE); 77, 73 m. Heins Weis (GER); 69, 33 m. Nikolaos Gentekos (GRE) Shot Put. 19, 31 m. Vaios Tigas (GRE); 18, 38 m. Andreas Anastassopoulos (GRE); 18, 13 m. Christos Sarakoglou (GRE) WOMEN 100 m. (-0.6 m/s) 10''99. Marleen Ottey (JAM); 11"03. Sevatheda Fynes; 11" 21. Christy Gaines . 11" 76. Panayota Koutrouli; 11" 76. Paraskevi Patoulidou 200 m. (-1 m/s). 22"55. Susanthika Jayasinghe (SRI); 23" 19. Donne Fraser (GBR); 23" 21. Ekaterini Koffa (GRE); 23" 73. Chryssoula Goudenoudi (GRE) 400 m. 51" 53. Ebun Olabisi Afolabi (NGR); 51" 76. Monique Hennagan (USA); 52" 12. Karen Shinkins (IRL) 1.500 m. 4' 11" 66. Olga Kuznetsova (RUS) 400 m. hurdles 54"52. Nesha Bidouane (MAR); 54"71. Sandra Cummings Glover (USA); 55¨68. Urlike Urbansky (GER); 55''91. Heike Meissner (GER); 56''76. Susan Smith (IRL); 57''38. Judit Szekeres (HUN) Pole Vault. 4, 40 m. Nicole Humbert Rieger (GER); 4, 30 m. Mary Sauer (USA); 4, 20 m. Monique De Wilt (NED); 4, 20 m. Pavla Hamackova (CZE); 4, 10 m. Doris Auer (AUT); 4, 00 m. Thaleia Iakovidou; 4, 00 m. Georgia Tsiliggiri Long Jump. 6, 70 m. Niurka Montalvo (ESP); 6, 64 m. Niki Xanthou; 6, 60 m. Lisuta Cuza (CUB); 6, 55 m. Valentina Gotovska (LAT) Triple Jump. 14, 79 m. Tereza Marinova (BUL), 14, 62 m. Anja Valant (SLO); 14, 22 m. Christina Nikolau (ROM); 14, 05 m. Dimitra Markou (GRE) pb.; 13, 82 m. Baya Rahouli (ALG); 12, 77 m. Chryssopigi Devetzi (GRE) Discus Throw. 65,98 m. Natalya Sadova (RUS); 63, 66 m. Ekaterini Voggoli (GRE); 63, 64 m. Nicoletta Grasu (ROM); Stella Tsikouna 63, 30 m. André Sammartino Reckon you know your stuff? Come try our Olympics track and field tipping comp http://surf.to/bayside
t-and-f: Oops
oops, should sayThessaloniki results from http://www.eexi.gr/athletix/Salonika2000.html André Sammartino Reckon you know your stuff? Come try our Olympics track and field tipping comp http://surf.to/bayside
t-and-f: Talking tough
Australian long-jumper Jai Taurima (4th Seville) has been doing his own trash-talking of late: http://www.abc.net.au/news/sport/moreSport/2000/08/item2830100356_1.htm Taurima talks tough ahead of Olympic long jump If confidence means anything, Australia will win a gold medal in the long jump at the Sydney Olympics. Commonwealth Games gold medallist Peter Burge and Australian record holder Jai Taurima head the charge in an event not usually noted for its depth of challenge. Taurima believes, in the cooler conditions in Sydney, the Russians represent more of a threat to Australia, winning gold, than the Americans. "I think the Russians are the ones who are going to be the scare factor," he said. "Americans are Americans aren't they? "They only jump big in America, and these guys, these three guys, are a bunch of dribblers, that's all I'm saying. For the most arduous Olympics tipping comp going 'round come see us... http://surf.to/bayside
