t-and-f: Japanese Depth

[Andre Sammartino]

If any of you are looking for an excellent example of how to generate 
Marathon depth, check out these 10k track race results from Japan:

http://www.tilastopaja.net/results/results.asp?CID=7808802

I count 81 men under 30minutes in a single day of racing...

How many US athletes cracked that barrier last season?

t-and-f: Pounding away (was USATF-Rogge story)

[Andre Sammartino]

OK, it appears some non-US list members are starting to pipe in on this 
ongoing jibberish re: liberties, rights, US-bashing, Pound's political 
ambitions and the like.

Some simple questions from a simple man down under:
1. Can anyone on this list tell me they believe every member of the US team 
sent to 2000 Olympics was drug free (deliberate or otherwise)?
2. Can anyone tell me they don't believe it would be in USATF's interest to 
protect stars caught out in tests?
3. Can anyone tell me the IOC doesn't have grounds to be frustrated with 
USATF's actions if it is the case that they have acted to protect these stars?

That's for starters... we'll see how we go from there.

t-and-f: Alvin's down here

[Andre Sammartino]

Alvin Harrison is running the Australian summer circuit:

Canberra 08 February 2002

Final MEN'S 400 METRE
1. Paul Pearce, VIC 46.23; 2. Alvin Harrison, USA 46.28; 3. Clinton Hill,
NSWIS 46.52; 4. Patrick Dwyer, NSWIS 46.66; 5. David Geddes, NSW 46.90; 6.
Michael Rehardt, QLD 46.97; 7. Casey Vincent, VIS 47.24; 8. Mark Ormrod, SASI
47.81.

http://www.athletics.org.au/events/meets/results.cfm?ObjectID=277

CAMPBELLTOWN (Sydney), 10 February 2002

Preliminaries MEN'S 200 METRE
Heat 2: (w:0.6): 1. Alvin Harrison, USA 20.73; 2. Jeremy Dixon, NZL 21.82; 3.
Paul Di Bella, QLD 21.85; 4. Craig Sconce, ACT 22.00; 5. Scott Wells, ACT
22.04; 6. Robert Mullard, NSW 22.86.

Final MEN'S 200 METRE
(w:-2.1): 1. Alvin Harrison, USA 20.54; 2. David Geddes, NSW 21.03; 3.
Patrick Johnson, AIS 21.14; 4. Ambrose Ezenwa, NSW 21.15; 5. Darryl Wohlsen,
QLD 21.32; 6. Tim Williams, VIS 21.36; 7. Adam Miller, NSWIS 21.55; 8. David
Flowers, VIC 21.58.

http://www.athletics.org.au/events/meets/results.cfm?ObjectID=278

   

t-and-f: Fast times in Zatopek 10000m

[Andre Sammartino]

The last significant outdoor track races of the year produced some 
interesting performances last night at Melbourne's Annual Zatopek 
meet.  Susie Power, bronze mdeallist from this year's Goodwill Games (and 
sister of Arkansas Alumni Michael) produced the second fastest Australian 
time ever in atrociously wet conditions. Time was also 4th fastest in world 
for 2001:

Women 1 Metre
1 Power, Susie, Victoria, 31:26.34. 2 McCann, Kerryn, NSW, 33:06.28. 3 
Harvey, Natalie, Victoria, 33:23.56. 4 Christie, Sarah, NZL, 33:39.75.

In the men's race 21 year old miler Craig Mottram stepped up and made an 
impressive 10k debut. He has run 3.35.40, 3.53.06, 7.41.35 and 13.23.94 
this year, and raced in GP Final 1500m:

1  Mottram, Craig, Victoria, 28:19.26. 2 Martin, Blair, NZL, 28:27.23. 3 
Bezabeh, Sisay, ACT, 28:38.78. 4 Cartwright, Brett, SA, 28:42.10. 5,
Gillard, Kim, NSW, 28:48.53. 6 Thompson, Mark, Victoria, 28:48.57.

More reporting at http://www.theage.com.au/sport/2001/12/07/FFXF4IAFWUC.html


Andre Sammartino
A cog in the wheel of the Bayside machine
1999-2000, 2000-1 State League (Men's) Champions
"Are you hip to our funky groove?"
http://surf.to/bayside
  

re:t-and-f: Great Lakes photos

[Andre Sammartino]

go to http://www.runmichigan.com and click on the "great lakes regional 
photos", there are 20 pages of photos


From: "Jared Fletcher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:10 PM
Subject: t-and-f: Great Lakes photos

I was wondering if someone knew if there were photos of the Great Lakes
Regional posted anywhere on the internet, and where they might be.
thanks,
Jared

t-and-f: looking for Geb

[Andre Sammartino]

Leigh Vial ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is a distance runner (PR 1500m 4:01.5), 
who lives on a farm abutting the Murray River in southern Australia. By 
necessity, he trains alone through the flat, dusty countryside and along 
the local river flats. Leigh visited Ethiopia to look at possible ways of 
assisting the local farmers to improve work practices and productivity. 
While there, he decided to see if Haile was at home 

he subsequently penned an excellent article. It is accompanied by a photo 
and a pop song about
Geb, which recently topped the charts there. Find it at 
http://www.geocities.com/apsoc/Ethiopia.htm

Please note that the article, photo and song are for private use only. 
Copyright remains with the authors.

t-and-f: The list

[Andre Sammartino]

This is to follow up concerns regarding the perceived drop-off in the 
quality of the list. One of the issues i have as a non-US participant (I 
reside "down under"), is that track and field is not the major topic of 
discussion over the period Oct, Nov, Dec etc, as the list gets extremely 
US-centric and College X-C etc becomes the focus.

I have no particular problem with this, as I accept the majority of list 
members are interested in these comps.

One issue for me (and perhaps others, i don't know), is that i don't 
actually have a complete grasp on the NCAA system. I don't understand what 
the purpose of Pre-Nats are  - is it just to see the course/opposition or 
was there some value in performing in terms of qualification?

In essence I have a series of questions that i couldn't find answers to 
very easily on the NCAA/collegerunning sites:

1. How do schools qualify for NCAA champs?
2. How do individuals qualify?
3. What is the role of divisional champs and how come some schools don't 
have a divisional alignment?
4. How do "at large" quals work?
5. Why are there no rankings/predictions of individuals' race 
results/rankings similar to the Team rankings?

Background to my interest/questions and an example you might use to 
illustrate your explanation: an old clubmate of mine Marty Fedmowski is at 
Butler in Indianapolis... they don't seem to be in a conference... but they 
beat a couple of the ranked schools at Pre-Nats... what do they to qualify
And he finished 9th in his Pre-nats Race and probably 25-26th overall... 
does this make any difference to his chance of running at Champs?

Thanks in advance to anyone who can remedy my ignorance/confusion...

And maybe this might serve as a reminder that not all on here are from the 
US and that your systems are far from transparent...

(Other topics i might raise in the future include "what the hell is NAIA 
basketball and why would we see it on cable here?")

Oh, and i love GH and Malmo's jokes... they lighten up what can be dreary 
reading...

Thanks,

Andre Sammartino
A cog in the wheel of the Bayside machine
1999-2000, 2000-1 State League (Men's) Champions
"Are you hip to our funky groove?"
http://surf.to/bayside  

t-and-f: Women's AOY

[Andre Sammartino]

Catherine Ndereba's Chicago effort has really thrown the cat amongst the 
pigeons... does Takahashi fall off the radar as a chance for AOY now?

How does one compare two WR, both of which are seen of greater value/merit 
than Dragila'a and Menendez'?

We've had to add Ndereba to our list of AOY candidates despite the poll 
being have way thru...

Andre Sammartino
A cog in the wheel of the Bayside machine
Come vote in our Athlete-of-the-year polls
http://surf.to/bayside
  

RE: t-and-f: Women's AOY

[Andre Sammartino]

We had that same dilemma in drawing up our list of AOY candidates... and in 
the end the Steeple WR-holder didn't get listed... but then our Australian 
Athlete of the Year Poll saw Steeple WJR-holder voted no.4...

Andre Sammartino
A cog in the wheel of the Bayside machine
Come vote in our Athlete-o-the-year polls
http://surf.to/bayside

Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 12:53:14 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: t-and-f: Women's AOY
In a message dated Wed, 3 Oct 2001 6:49:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
"Michael Rohl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 >> Ivanova's record is close to her road time. WIthin
 >> seconds. Which is the same with the men's walks. >>
 >I wasn't questioning whether or not Ivanova's track time was any good; 
i'm saying that the women's 20W record is an irrelevant stat, be it 
road >(where she also set an all-time best) or track. There just isn't 
enough data by enough people over enough time to fairly compare the marks 
to events >with decades of history.
 >Having said that, Ivanova deserves very good consideration on the AOY 
ballot, simply because she has an undefeated 5-race season, winning 
both >WC and Goodwill.
 >The "is it relevant?" question applies even more strongly to women's 
steeple times, with the result that there won't be any steeplechasers on 
the >AOY ballot.
 >gh

t-and-f: AOY Poll

[Andre Sammartino]

We at the Bayside Athletics webpage just ran an Australian Athlete of the 
Year Poll that attracted some interest, and wasn't too traumatic for us 
coders/counters.

So we're doing it again for a Global one. Consider it your chance to 
pretend you get to vote in the slightly more illustrious Track and Field 
News one.

We have adopted the same format i.e. Pick your top ten male and female 
lists. We give roughly 40 to choose from on either side. The list should 
include all the Champs from Edmonton plus most World Leaders and is filled 
out with the top 25 or so from the IAAF's dodgy overall rankings.

Anyway, we hope you enjoy it. Oh, and the deadline is Oct 12.

Happy voting,


Andre Sammartino
A cog in the wheel of the Bayside machine
1999-2000, 2000-1 State League (Men's) Champions
"Are you hip to our funky groove?"
http://surf.to/bayside  

Re: t-and-f: 30 year (very) old thing

[Andre Sammartino]

Didn't the immortal Michael Johnson have just a story a major champs - food 
poisoning our whatever?

And form from a previous season is old news...

At what point do we stop accepting that form varies/improves/declines?

otherwise i can give you a list of future Olympians who i beat as a 13 year 
old... i always thought it was dodgy that they made it and i didn't...

At 03:59 PM 8/27/2001, Prof. Uri Goldbourt wrote:
>A story would be needed to explain a 7th  place in the Olympic final last 
>year - if stories are the order of the day.
>
>UG
>---
>
>At 09:12 27/08/01 +1000, Andre Sammartino wrote:
>>Story that was reported by Eurosport commentators that we get here in 
>>Australia was that Boulami was given a pain-killing injection prior to 
>>the Edmonton final and that it wasn't administered very well... the 
>>phrase we would have used at high school would be 'dead leg'...

t-and-f: 30 year (very) old thing

[Andre Sammartino]

Story that was reported by Eurosport commentators that we get here in 
Australia was that Boulami was given a pain-killing injection prior to the 
Edmonton final and that it wasn't administered very well... the phrase we 
would have used at high school would be 'dead leg'... 

t-and-f: AOY discussions

[Andre Sammartino]

On this issue of prospective AOYs for 2001, any view on Jonathon Edwards' 
chances?... has 4 longest jumps plus 7th and 9th...and only outdoor loss 
appears to have been by 9cm in Helsinki GP... and he has jumped about 
fairly regularly given event is non-GP (a real hindrance for non "glamour" 
events... so is his season over (or is he off to Goodwill Games)?

Interestingly given talk of Bucher's chances, i can't remember Kipketer 
being AOY in his stellar seasons (1996, 1997)... this stuff doesn't seem to 
be archived at the T&FN site...

Also any view on El Guerrouj's potential position given he has gone 
undefeated?... or is this a case of not matching up to his previous standards?

  

RE: t-and-f: Entine's flaws

[Andre Sammartino]

i have tried to remove as many folks as possible from the lists in a 
similar straw-clutching fashion as Jon...

At 11:09 AM 8/15/2001, malmo wrote:
>Cruz mostly African ancestry?
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andre Sammartino
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 8:32 PM
> > To: P.F.Talbot
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: t-and-f: Entine's flaws
> >
> >
> > but the statement that "92 of the top 100 times are held by
> > those of mostly
> > African ancestry" is still wrong... it can only be 82... it's
> > just poor
> > data collection undermining what are substantive claims...
> >
> > for what it's worth my view here is that the discussion is about
> > probabilities...
> >
> > Entine is probably correct in that the probability of a given
> > East African
> > being capable of world class middle to long-distance
> > performances is higher
> > than a non-East African, and likewise that the probability of a West
> > African being capable of world class sprint performances is
> > higher than a
> > non-West African... but it's only probabilities... the beauty of the
> > stochastic nature of the process is that there are always
> > "freaks" who mess
> > with the numbers... so maybe it becomes an issue of "freak" frequency
> > (almost went for the pun there)... and then there's hard
> > work, training,
> > opportunity, environment, discrimination, resources etc...
> >
> > uh-oh, we're back on this train again!
> >
> > why do we get sucked in?
> >
> > At 10:15 AM 8/15/2001, P.F.Talbot wrote:
> > >So this looks like only 7 non-Africans have produced times
> > in the top
> > >100 all time, right?
> > >
> > >I'd put Juantorena on the list though (maybe that was his 8th).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Andre Sammartino wrote:
> > >
> > > > Jon,
> > > >
> > > > I don't understand where you are getting these numbers
> > from... each
> > > > time you reappear on this list to boost book sales you undermine
> > > > your credentials substanitally by citing WRONG numbers.  Where is
> > > > the 800m evidence you cite?
> > > >
> > > > my check of Peter Larsson's top 100 performances all-time
> > produces
> > > > this list of non-"africans"
> > > >
> > > > 3  1.41,73Sebastian Coe
> > > > 11 1.42,33Sebastian Coe
> > > > 18 1.42,58Vebjørn Rodal
> > > > 39 1.42,88Steve Cram
> > > > 40 1.42,90André Bucher
> > > > 42 1.42,92André Bucher
> > > > 43 1.42,95Vebjørn Rodal
> > > > 45 1.42,97Peter Elliott
> > > > 54 1.43,07Sebastian Coe
> > > > 60 1.43,12André Bucher
> > > > 64 1.43,17Yuriy Borzakovskiy
> > > > 67 1.43,19Steve Cram
> > > > 72 1.43,22Steve Cram
> > > > 75 1.43,25Vebjørn Rodal
> > > > 84 1.43,31André Bucher
> > > > 91 1.43,34André Bucher
> > > > 98 1.43,38Sebastian Coe
> > > > 98 1.43,38Rich Kenah
> > > > http://www.algonet.se/~pela2/mtrack/m_800ok.htm
> > > >
> > > > That's 18, not 8!
> > > >
> > > > And if you in fact meant all time performers, then the top 100 at
> > > > Hanserik Pettersson's site includes these lot (i may have
> > a couple
> > > > wrong here through not knowing who/"what" they are/were (ugly
> > > > terminology, but we are playing this game)):
> > > >
> > > > 2 1.41.73  Sebastian Coe
> > > > 5 1.42.58  Vebjörn Rodal
> > > > 12 1.42.88  Steve Cram
> > > > 13 1.42.90  André Bucher
> > > > 14 1.42.97  Peter Elliott
> > > > 22 1.43.17  Yuriy Borzakovskiy
> > > > 31 1.43.38  Richard Kenah
> > > > 37 1.43.56  Rob Druppers
> > > > 45 1.43.65  Willi Wülbeck
> > > > 49 1.43.74  Andrea Longo
> > > > 52 1.43.7h  Marcello Fiasconaro
> > > > 53 1.43.84  Olaf Beyer
> > > > 54 1.43.84  Martin Steele
> > > > 55 1.43.86  Ivo Van Damme
> > > > 57 1.43.88  Donato Sabia
> > > > 58 1.43.88  Tom McKean
> > > >

Re: t-and-f: Entine's flaws

[Andre Sammartino]

but the statement that "92 of the top 100 times are held by those of mostly 
African ancestry" is still wrong... it can only be 82... it's just poor 
data collection undermining what are substantive claims...

for what it's worth my view here is that the discussion is about 
probabilities...

Entine is probably correct in that the probability of a given East African 
being capable of world class middle to long-distance performances is higher 
than a non-East African, and likewise that the probability of a West 
African being capable of world class sprint performances is higher than a 
non-West African... but it's only probabilities... the beauty of the 
stochastic nature of the process is that there are always "freaks" who mess 
with the numbers... so maybe it becomes an issue of "freak" frequency 
(almost went for the pun there)... and then there's hard work, training, 
opportunity, environment, discrimination, resources etc...

uh-oh, we're back on this train again!

why do we get sucked in?

At 10:15 AM 8/15/2001, P.F.Talbot wrote:
>So this looks like only 7 non-Africans have produced times in the top 100
>all time, right?
>
>I'd put Juantorena on the list though (maybe that was his 8th).
>
>
>
>On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Andre Sammartino wrote:
>
> > Jon,
> >
> > I don't understand where you are getting these numbers from... each time
> > you reappear on this list to boost book sales you undermine your
> > credentials substanitally by citing WRONG numbers.  Where is the 800m
> > evidence you cite?
> >
> > my check of Peter Larsson's top 100 performances all-time produces this
> > list of non-"africans"
> >
> > 3  1.41,73Sebastian Coe
> > 11 1.42,33Sebastian Coe
> > 18 1.42,58Vebjørn Rodal
> > 39 1.42,88Steve Cram
> > 40 1.42,90André Bucher
> > 42 1.42,92André Bucher
> > 43 1.42,95Vebjørn Rodal
> > 45 1.42,97Peter Elliott
> > 54 1.43,07Sebastian Coe
> > 60 1.43,12André Bucher
> > 64 1.43,17Yuriy Borzakovskiy
> > 67 1.43,19Steve Cram
> > 72 1.43,22Steve Cram
> > 75 1.43,25Vebjørn Rodal
> > 84 1.43,31André Bucher
> > 91 1.43,34André Bucher
> > 98 1.43,38Sebastian Coe
> > 98 1.43,38Rich Kenah
> > http://www.algonet.se/~pela2/mtrack/m_800ok.htm
> >
> > That's 18, not 8!
> >
> > And if you in fact meant all time performers, then the top 100 at Hanserik
> > Pettersson's site includes these lot (i may have a couple wrong here
> > through not knowing who/"what" they are/were (ugly terminology, but we are
> > playing this game)):
> >
> > 2 1.41.73  Sebastian Coe
> > 5 1.42.58  Vebjörn Rodal
> > 12 1.42.88  Steve Cram
> > 13 1.42.90  André Bucher
> > 14 1.42.97  Peter Elliott
> > 22 1.43.17  Yuriy Borzakovskiy
> > 31 1.43.38  Richard Kenah
> > 37 1.43.56  Rob Druppers
> > 45 1.43.65  Willi Wülbeck
> > 49 1.43.74  Andrea Longo
> > 52 1.43.7h  Marcello Fiasconaro
> > 53 1.43.84  Olaf Beyer
> > 54 1.43.84  Martin Steele
> > 55 1.43.86  Ivo Van Damme
> > 57 1.43.88  Donato Sabia
> > 58 1.43.88  Tom McKean
> > 59 1.43.90  Einars Tupuritis
> > 62 1.43.91  Johan Botha
> > 63 1.43.92  John Marshall
> > 65 1.43.92  Andrea Benvenuti
> > 67 1.43.95  Philippe Collard
> > 68 1.43.95  Giuseppe D'Urso
> > 71 1.43.98  David Sharpe
> > 72 1.43.98  Bram Som
> > 73 1.43.9h  José Marajo
> > 75 1.44.01  Marko Koers
> > 76 1.44.03  Peter Braun
> > 79 1.44.07  Lucijano Susanj
> > 80 1.44.09  Steve Ovett
> > 81 1.44.10  Vladimir Graudyn
> > 82 1.44.10  Ari Suhonen
> > 84 1.44.14  Lee Jin-il
> > 88 1.44.22  Nils Schumann
> > 92 1.44.25  Vasiliy Matveyev
> > 94 1.44.38  Ryszard Ostrowski
> > 96 1.44.3h+  Peter George Snell
> > 97 1.44.3hy-.6  Jim Ryun
> > 98 1.44.3h  Dave Wottle
> > http://w1.196.telia.com/~u19603668/atb-m04.htm
> >
> > That's 38...
> >
> > Please explain your sources...
> >
> >
> > Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:02:57 -0700
> > From: Jon Entine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > ...
> > I did discuss this numerous times, and most recently in my post a while 
> back
> > about "why Brits" will are doing so lousy. The FACT is...and you can check
> > the lists of top times and top runners..is that you and others have
> > swallowed a MYTH that there were a lot of runners of "US, UK and Northern
> >

t-and-f: Entine's flaws

[Andre Sammartino]

Jon,

I don't understand where you are getting these numbers from... each time 
you reappear on this list to boost book sales you undermine your 
credentials substanitally by citing WRONG numbers.  Where is the 800m 
evidence you cite?

my check of Peter Larsson's top 100 performances all-time produces this 
list of non-"africans"

3  1.41,73Sebastian Coe
11 1.42,33Sebastian Coe
18 1.42,58Vebjørn Rodal
39 1.42,88Steve Cram
40 1.42,90André Bucher
42 1.42,92André Bucher
43 1.42,95Vebjørn Rodal
45 1.42,97Peter Elliott
54 1.43,07Sebastian Coe
60 1.43,12André Bucher
64 1.43,17Yuriy Borzakovskiy
67 1.43,19Steve Cram
72 1.43,22Steve Cram
75 1.43,25Vebjørn Rodal
84 1.43,31André Bucher
91 1.43,34André Bucher
98 1.43,38Sebastian Coe
98 1.43,38Rich Kenah
http://www.algonet.se/~pela2/mtrack/m_800ok.htm

That's 18, not 8!

And if you in fact meant all time performers, then the top 100 at Hanserik 
Pettersson's site includes these lot (i may have a couple wrong here 
through not knowing who/"what" they are/were (ugly terminology, but we are 
playing this game)):

2 1.41.73  Sebastian Coe
5 1.42.58  Vebjörn Rodal
12 1.42.88  Steve Cram
13 1.42.90  André Bucher
14 1.42.97  Peter Elliott
22 1.43.17  Yuriy Borzakovskiy
31 1.43.38  Richard Kenah
37 1.43.56  Rob Druppers
45 1.43.65  Willi Wülbeck
49 1.43.74  Andrea Longo
52 1.43.7h  Marcello Fiasconaro
53 1.43.84  Olaf Beyer
54 1.43.84  Martin Steele
55 1.43.86  Ivo Van Damme
57 1.43.88  Donato Sabia
58 1.43.88  Tom McKean
59 1.43.90  Einars Tupuritis
62 1.43.91  Johan Botha
63 1.43.92  John Marshall
65 1.43.92  Andrea Benvenuti
67 1.43.95  Philippe Collard
68 1.43.95  Giuseppe D'Urso
71 1.43.98  David Sharpe
72 1.43.98  Bram Som
73 1.43.9h  José Marajo
75 1.44.01  Marko Koers
76 1.44.03  Peter Braun
79 1.44.07  Lucijano Susanj
80 1.44.09  Steve Ovett
81 1.44.10  Vladimir Graudyn
82 1.44.10  Ari Suhonen
84 1.44.14  Lee Jin-il
88 1.44.22  Nils Schumann
92 1.44.25  Vasiliy Matveyev
94 1.44.38  Ryszard Ostrowski
96 1.44.3h+  Peter George Snell
97 1.44.3hy-.6  Jim Ryun
98 1.44.3h  Dave Wottle
http://w1.196.telia.com/~u19603668/atb-m04.htm

That's 38...

Please explain your sources...


Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:02:57 -0700
From: Jon Entine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

...
I did discuss this numerous times, and most recently in my post a while back
about "why Brits" will are doing so lousy. The FACT is...and you can check
the lists of top times and top runners..is that you and others have
swallowed a MYTH that there were a lot of runners of "US, UK and Northern
European stock" that were setting the world on fire years ago. There were a
few great races by a handful of great runners such as Cram and Coe competing
in a field in which most of the rest of the world did not compete,
particularly runners from Africa, most of Asia, and South America.
Now that the field is more level, the best talent comes to the top. Again,
check the lists of top times and runners... Those so-called "great" times of
years ago pale in comparison RELATIVE to the population numbers AND overall.
In the 800 metres, for instance, 92 of the top 100 times are held by those
of mostly African ancestry. Was Coe a great runner. Of course. And we will
always have great runners. But he was no where near the consistent level of
a Kipketer or Cruz.
...

t-and-f: A Double Decathlon Down Under

[Andre Sammartino]

I was asked to forward the following message to the list regarding an 
opportunity to really show your athletic versatility - in Australia...
-
From: Justin Hanrahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

A double decathlon in Melbourne? Who would like to see that?
I am putting a proposal together to see a double decathlon/heptathlon held
at the conclusion of next season (maybe April 6/7, 2002). Another option is
before the 2001/2002 season (i.e. Sept. this year - any thoughts?)
There appear to be enough weirdos out there who, like me, think this would
be a challenge too good to pass up.
At this stage, I would like to get an idea of the interest out there. If
anyone, and I mean anyone, is interested, please e-mail me and let me know.
To fill you in, briefly, it is two days, twenty events.
Now although the interest stems from the decathletes, it is well worth
noting that it suits distance runners as much as it does decathletes. The
events (not in order) are as follows.
100m Long Jump
200m High Jump
400m Triple jump
800m Pole vault
1500m Shot put
3000m Hammer throw
5000m Discus
1m Javelin
110mh 3km Steeple
200mh 400mh
The hept. follows a similar format
It is not likely to see any world records broken, but it is a once in a blue
moon event.
Please get in touch soon if this interests you.
Cheers
Justin Hanrahan

Justin posted this message to the Australian track lists yesterday and has 
already had a number of inquiries (including from several of Australia's 
elite-level athletes, among them an Olympic medallist)...

for more info on Double decaths see http://www.dmultis.org/double.htm


André

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t-and-f: AOY - try listing and see how you go

[Andre Sammartino]

The debate here seems to be floundering on the identity of challengers to
our Polish Pedestrian.  Here's my top 10 =-11

1. Korzenioswki - only doubler at Olympic has to count
2. Alekna - no.2 performance all time and victory in best quality
championship DT comp in many a year, 8 of top 10 throws for year (not
including whole lot of ancillaries)
3. Greene -  not as impressive as recent years, but still managed 5 fastest
times and 6 sub-10
4. Zelezný - wasn't neccessarily favourite going into Olympics, but pulled
out a beauty... does managing to 3-peat make up for a couple of defeats on
the circuit and big throws by competitors? 
5. Michael Johnson - someone so dominant needs to be at least this high -
umming and ahhing about whether he should be above Zelezný
6. Jonathon Edwards - pretty dominant all year
7. Gebrselassie - probably should be higher but underraced... 10k final was
THE race of the year
8 Ngeny - same as Geb, under-raced -  feels strange to leave El-G out as he
was cruising for a spot until Sydney 
9. Pedroso, still best in his event and produced big clutch jump in Sydney
10. Garcia maybe, El-G maybe or Taylor


Are there similar debates on women's side? contenders? jones, szabo,
dragila, hattestad, freeman, devers (?), privalova?

t-and-f: AA Information Release - Throws Competition - Blacktown Athletic Track, Sydney - 18th September 2000

[Andre Sammartino]

ATHLETICS AUSTRALIA
INFORMATION RELEASE
Results of the Pre-Olympic Throws Competition held at Blacktown Athletic
Track, Sydney on 18th September 2000


WOMEN

Discus Throw - 1. Beatrice Faumuina (NZL) 63.40m; 2. Kris Kuehl (USA)
61.36m; 3. Kari Monia (TUN) 58.08m

Hammer Throw - 1. Dawn Ellerbe (USA) 66.66m; 2. Lisa Misapeka (AMS) 60.76m



MEN

Discus Throw - 1. Ian Winchester (NZL) 61.50m; 2. Frits Potgeiter (RSA)
60.49m; ND - Jason Gervais (CAN)

Hammer Throw - 1. Miloslav Konopka (SVK) 71.26m


Brian Roe
Competitions Manager

This information has been provided by:
Athletics Australia, Suite 22, Fawkner Towers, 431 St Kilda Road,
Melbourne, Victoria, 3004, Australia
Ph: 61 3 98203511
Fax: 61 3 9820 3544
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: http://www.athletics.org.au

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t-and-f: bahamas looking for gold

[Andre Sammartino]

Bahamas plot relay replay

http://www.olympics.smh.com.au/athletics/2000/09/19/FFXVK6U59DC.html

When Pauline Davis-Thompson saw Cathy Freeman at the training track
yesterday, the pair engaged in a brief conversation.

Davis-Thompson was a silver medallist in the 400metres at the 1995 world
championships in Gothenburg, one of two to pass a spent Freeman in the
dying metres to take the minor medals behind Marie-Jose Perec.
Davis-Thompson did not continue in the 400m, preferring to drop back to the
shorter sprints.

She has some claims to individual honours here, but Davis-Thompson is also
the mainstay in the 4x100 metres relay team for the Bahamas. They're
determined to win, too. ''We're going to beat the Americans,'' she told
Freeman.
 
(more at link)

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Re: (fwd) t-and-f: Clausen Local Confidence/Everett Outdoes E.T.

[Andre Sammartino]

At least if he races in them there'll be something to giggle at other than
his clumsy running style 

><
>and check out the picture of Mark Everett, too.>>

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t-and-f: AA Information Release - Results of Pre-Olympic Warmup Meet held on SIAC #1 Track, Sydney on Thursday, 14th September 2000

[Andre Sammartino]

>ATHLETICS AUSTRALIA
>INFORMATION RELEASE
>Results of Pre-Olympic Warmup Meet held on SIAC #1 Track, Sydney on
>Thursday, 14th September 2000
>
>MEN
>
>100 metres
>Heat 1: (-0.3) 1. Deji Aliu (NGR) 10.19; 2. Mathew Quinn (RSA) 10.48; 3.
>Dejan Jojnovic (CRO) 10.60; 4. Slaven Krajacic (CRO) 10.71; 5. Iram Lewis
>(BAH) 10.72; 6. Wellington Saunders (BAH) 10.80; 7. Tihomir Buinjac (CRO)
>10.81; 8. Sylvanus Hepburn (BAH) 11.07; DNF - Ronald Promesse (STL)
>Heat 2: (+0.9) 1. Jorge Richardson (PUR) 10.51; 2. Heber Viera (URU) 10.54;
>3. Osvaldo Nieves (PUR) 10.63; 4. Mark Howard (IRL) 10.64; 5. Donal McCarthy
>(IRL) 10.68; 6. Alvin Henry (TRI) 10.70; 7. Slobodan Spasic (YUG) 10.75; 8.
>Shane Dyer (TRI) 10.92; 9. Marko Jankovic (YUG) 11.04
>Heat 3: (-0.3) 1. Antoine Boussombo (GAB) 10.48; 2. Rolan Blanco (GUA)
>10.74; 3. Gary Ryan (IRL) 10.74; 4. Fernando Augustin (MRI) 10.79; 5.
>Boonyarit Phuksachat (THA) 10.79; 6. Eric Nkansah (GHA) 10.85; 7. Nicholas
>Hogan (MRI) 10.97; 8. Kelsey Nakanelua (AMS) 11.13; 9. Nelson Lucas (SEY)
>11.18; 10. Abraham Kepsin (VAN) 11.30
>Heat 4: (+0.9) 1. Claudio Souza (BRA) 10.45; 2. John McAdorey (IRL) 10.52;
>3. Oscar Meneses (GUA) 10.57; 4. Jonathan Chimier (MRI) 10.75; 5. Barnabe
>Jolicoeur (MRI) 10.79; 6. Alpha Kamara (SLE) 10.85; 7. (ANT) 10.90; 8.
>Ommanandsingh Kowlessur (MRI) 11.07; DNF -Benjamin Sirimou (CMR)
>Heat 5: (+1.9) 1. Abu Duah (GHA) 10.42; 2. Eric N'Dri (CIV) 10.44; 3. Simon
>Gabrval (ARG) 10.54; 4. Idrissa Sanou (BKF) 10.56; 5. Shaun Bownes (RSA)
>10.57; 6. Alfred Moussambane (CMR) 10.61; 7. Jose Tinoco (GUA) 10.63
>200 metres (+1.4): 1. Benjamin Youla (CGO) 21.31; 2. Nelson Lucas (SEY)
>22.19
>300 metres:
>Heat 1: 1. Clement Chukwu (NGR) 32.72; 2. Eric Milazar (MRI) 32.79; 3. Omar
>Loum (SEN) 33.31; 4. Carlifornia Molefe (BOT) 33.58; 5. Youssoupha Sarr
>(SEN) 33.80; 6. Pascal Dangbo (BEN) 34.01; 7. Muhammad al Bishi (KSA) 34.17;
>Bilal al Howasah (KSA) 34.37
>Heat 2: 1. Sanjay Ayne (JAM) 32.81; 2. Lulu Basinyi (BOT) 33.13; 3. Benjamin
>Youla (CGO) 33.35; 4. Gordon Kennedy (IRL) 33.36; 5. Hamed al Bishi (KSA)
>33.80; 6. Tobokane Mosetlha (BOT) 33.98; 7. Abduallah al Howsah (KSA) 34.33;
>DSQ- Agrippa Matshimenko (BOT)
>Heat 3: 1.  Labidi Sofiane (TUN) 32.56; 2. Timothy Munnings (BAH) 32.98; 3.
>Johnson Kubisa (BOT) 33.54; 4. Daniel Adomarco (GHA) 34.24; 5. Gustavo
>Aguirre (ARG) 34.27; 6. Emmanual Asante (GHA) 34.87; 7. Kelsey Nakanelua
>(AMS) 35.59; 8. Coby Miller (USA) 43.96
>Heat 4: 1. Juan Toledo (MEX) 32.87; 2. Dennis Darling (BAH) 33.15; 3. Carl
>Oliver (BAH) 33.33; 4. N'kosie Barnes (ANT) 33.64; 5. Nathaniel Martey (GHA)
>33.74; 6. Wilan Louis (BAR) 33.89; 7. Goran Gajovic (YUG) 34.82
>600 metres:  1. Glody Dube (BOT) 1.15.00; 2. Zach Whitmarsh (CAN) 1.16.44;
>3. Fabian Rollins (BAR) 1.16.87; 4. Tbc 1.16.95; 5. Tbc 1.17.37; 6. Tbc
>1.17.61; 7. Belhaj Mohamed Habib (TUN) 1.17.69; 8. Djamel Belaid (ALG)
>1.19.95; 9. Faig Bajirov (AZE) 1.24.46
>1000 metres: 1. Japhet Kimutai (KEN) 2.17.73; 2. Kevin Sullivan (CAN)
>2.18.173. Arthemon Hatungimana (BUR) 2:18.20; 4. Patrick Nduwimana (BUR)
>2.18.39; 5. Bernard Lagat (KEN) 2.18.70; ; 6. Milton Browne (BAR) 2.18.20
>2000 metres (mixed):  1. Mark Carroll (IRL) 5.04.97; 2. (YUG) 5.05.64; 3.
>Lofti Turki (TUN) 5.12.93; 4. Joel Bourgeois (CAN); 5. Primo Higa (SOL)
>5.51.57; DNF - Tony Casey (USA)
>3000 metres: 1. Nick Rogers (USA) 7.45.97; DSQ - Alan Culpepper and Adam
>Goucher (illegal pacing)
>
>
>
>
>4x100m Relay (Round 1)
>Heat 1:  Jamaica 39.10; 2. Trinidad 39.53; 3. Bahamas 39.69; 4. Ivory Coast
>39.71; 5. Puerto Rico 40.55; DNF - Cameroun
>Heat 2: 1. Brazil 38.67; 2. Thailand 39.47; 3. Ireland 39.77; 4. Guatamala
>40.04; 5. Mauritius 40.28; DSQ - Liberia
>4x100m Relay (Round 2)
>Heat 1: 1. Brazil 38.45; 2. Mauritius A 39.19; 3. Liberia 39.85; 4.
>Guatemala 39.92; 5. Ireland 40.31
>Heat 2: 1. Bahamas 39.48; 2. Mauritius B 40.46; 3. Puerto Rico 40.48; DQ -
>Thailand; DNF - Croatia
>110m Hurdles (-0.5): 1. Shaun Bownes (RSA) 13.51; 2. Marco Souza (BRA)
>13.82; 3. Peter Coughlan (IRL) 13.93; 4. Berlioz Randrimahaja (MAD) 14.25;
>5. Paul Szehue (LBR) 14.37; 6. Charles Allen (GUY) 14.47
>400m Hurdles
>Heat 1: 1. Yvon Rakotoarimiandry(MAD) 49.84; 2. Kemel Thompson (JAM) 49.90;
>3. Sinisa Pesa (YUG) 50.92; 4. Mowen Boino  (PNG) 52.13
>Heat 2: 1. James Carter (USA) 49.90; 2. Alwyn Myburgh (RSA) 49.95; 3. Paul
>Tucker (GUY) 51.47; 4. Ian Harnden (ZIM) 53.70
>High Jump: 1. Hammad Abderrahmane (ALG) 2.30m; 2. Nathan Leeper (USA) 2.20m;
>3. Jin Taek Lee (KOR) 2.15m; 4. Kenny Evans (USA) 2.10m; 5. Claston Bernard
>(JAM) 2.00m
>Pole Vault: NH - Claston Bernard (JAM)
>Long Jump: 1. Daniel Jahic (YUG) 7.91m (+0.4); 2. Dwight Phillips (USA)
>7.84m (+3.1); 3. Savante Stringfellow (USA) 7.83m (+2.4); 4. Nelson Carlos
>(BRA) 7.76m (+1.3); 5. Sinisa Ergotic (CRO) 7.72m (0.0); 6. Teko Georges
>Folligan (TOG) 7.49m (+0.4); 7. Arnaud Casquette (MRI) 7.36m (0.0); 8. Mark
>Anthony (GHA) 7.36m (+0.9)
>Triple Jump: 1. Andrew Murphy

t-and-f: mystery solved?

[Andre Sammartino]

I think i may have managed to manoeuvre my way through the impenetrable
mass that is the official Olympics site and find the fields for the various
track and field events.  No idea how i got to the page or where the links
to it might be... 

Here goes:
The list of men's 100m runners:
http://www.olympics.com/eng/sports/AT/ATM001/index.html
then click on "participants"
or full link:
http://www.olympics.com/eng/sports/AT/ATM001/index.html?/eng/sports/AT/ATM00
1/part.html
(sorry if that's scrolled over... you may need to do some cut and pasting)
men's 200m is:
http://www.olympics.com/eng/sports/AT/ATM002/index.html?/eng/sports/AT/ATM00
2/part.html
Womens 400m is:
http://www.olympics.com/eng/sports/AT/ATW004/index.html?/eng/sports/AT/ATW00
4/part.html
etc...


The coding gets illogical by the time we get to field events and the like...

The way to get to another event is by clicking on the "choose an event"
link, then once there clicking the "participants" link again

The lists are in order of country and appear to be the (up to) four
entrants as declared by each country (for example Gainsford-Taylor, Hewitt,
Freeman and Peris-Kneebone in the 200m women's for Australia of which 3
will be running).  Clicking on the athlete's names reveal seasonal and
personal bests...

Lists appear to have been posted yesterday afternoon.  Does anyone know if
these are the final postings?

A couple of questions answered by lists:
Masterkova is NOT listed in 800m (but is in 1500m)
Szabo is listed in both 1500m and 5000m
O'Sullivan is listed in 1500m, 5000m and 10,000m

Full relay squads are also listed.

This should help you all with your entries in the Bayside/Brooks Olympic
Tipping Competition
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And bravo to Olympics team for pursing the old "bells and whistles"
approach rather than user-friendliness...

I'm off to find a feedback page... 

t-and-f: more pre-olympic comps...

[Andre Sammartino]

ATHLETICS AUSTRALIA
INFORMATION RELEASE
RESULTS
Pre-Olympic Competitions
FILA ATHLETIC CENTRE, St Josephs' College, Nudgee, Brisbane
Wednesday 13th September 2000

MEN'S SHOT PUT 1. Justin Anlezark, AUS 19.92m; 2. Rhys Jones, AUS 18.06m;
3. Scott Ferrier, AUS 14.28m; 4. Stuart Rendell, AUS 14.24m; 5. Daryl
Wohlsen, AUS  12.17m.  

MEN'S DISCUS THROW Scott Ferrier, AUS 46.30m.

MEN'S JAVELIN THROW 1. Andrew Currey, AUS 82.93m.

WOMEN'S DISCUS THROW 1. Beatrice Faumuina, NZL 62.93m, 2. Alison Lever, AUS
60.04m.

t-and-f: Tipping for shoes...

[Andre Sammartino]

The Bayside Athletics Olympic Tipping Competition (being run by Melbourne's
premier track club Bayside) just got a whole lot more interesting.  Our
wonderful sponsors at Brooks have donated some prize packs for the wisest
track and field minds out there.

So now, not only does the winner receive the now somewhat erroneous t-shirt
emblazoned with "I won the Bayside Olympics Tipping Competition and all I
got was this lousy T-shirt", but also they will score a pair of Brooks
Vapor running shoes and a pack of Brooks goodies (including a mousepad,
fridge magnet, temporary tattoos, posters and postcards). Second and third
get smaller packs (no shoes). And we may still throw in some of our
inevitable Olympic "souvenirs" also. 
 
In light of all this the closing date for entries has been extended to
Tuesday September 19th (wherever you are in the world). We'll be publishing
a complete list of scores within a few moments of results coming in (well,
nearly).   

So get to it... 

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t-and-f: pre-olympic chucking of stuff

[Andre Sammartino]

Complete results of Pre-Olympic Throws Meet held at Blacktown (Sydney) on
Wednesday evening 13th September 2000

ATHLETICS AUSTRALIA
INFORMATION RELEASE
MEN

Discus: 1. Frits Potgieter (RSA) 63.14m; 2. Ian Winchester (NZL) 59.74m; 3.
Marcelo Pugliese (ARG) 58.28m

Javelin: 1. Rigoberto Calderon (NCA) 68.23m


WOMEN

Discus: 1. Nicoleta Grasu (ROM) 65.66m; 2. Monia Kari (TUN) 57.49m

Javelin: 1. Felicia Tilea (ROM) 60.75m

Hammer: 1. Yipsi Moreno (CUB) 65.41m; 2. Ivana Brkljacic (CRO) 62.32m



Brian Roe
Competitions Manager
This information has been provided by:
Athletics Australia, Suite 22, Fawkner Towers, 431 St Kilda Road,
Melbourne, Victoria, 3004, Australia
Ph: 61 3 98203511
Fax: 61 3 9820 3544
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: http://www.athletics.org.au
André Sammartino
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t-and-f: Re: [OZTRACK] IOC approved EPO Test scandal

[Andre Sammartino]

While we're on the topic of TV docos, there has been a very interesting
3-part series on the current state of world athletics running on SBS on
Tuesday nights at 8.30pm... first two looked at role of IAAF, increases in
prizemoney, chase for $$ by shoe companies, drug use... focus on HSI group,
Michael Johnson, Marion Jones, Christian Malcolm... final episode tonight:

8.30 THE CUTTING EDGE: THE GOLDRUSH - The Olympic Nightmare 
- Genetic doping will, in the future, grow muscle without exercise and
without trace. This episode also investigates the wider Olympic movement.
Can the Olympic organisers salvage the original idealism of the earlier
games amid the cynical commercialism of today's world? And meet the losers
- those who are now forgotten for losing by a fraction of a second. (From
Germany, in English). *Final*


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t-and-f: Another Australian Pre-Olympic Meet

[Andre Sammartino]

ATHLETICS AUSTRALIA
INFORMATION RELEASE
Pre-Olympic Competition Results
Sports Super Centre, Runaway Bay, Gold Coast
Sunday September 10, 2000
 
WOMEN'S 100m Heat 1: (-0.1): 1. Merlene Ottey, JAM 11.15; 2. Lauren Hewitt,
AUS 11.49; 3. Sharon Cripps, AUS 11.60; 4. Shelia Burrell, USA 11.80; 5.
Melissa Medlicott, AUS 11.92; 6. Saja Prokotyev, Slovenia 12.14. 

WOMEN'S 100m Heat 2: (+0.8): 1. Nanceen Perry, USA 11.37; 2. Shakedia
Jones, USA 11.50; 3. Elly Hutton, AUS 11.50; 4. Esi Benyarku, CAN 11.60; 5.
Nabifma Salifu, CAN 11.80; 6. Melanie Kleeberg, AUS 11.82. 

WOMEN'S 100m Heat 3: (+1.7): 1. Alenka Bikar, Slovenia 11.46; 2. Suzanne
Broadrick, AUS 11.58; 3. Emily Maher, IRL 11.69; 4. Alicia Spencer, AUS
12.08. 

WOMEN'S 100m Final (+2.4): 1. Merlene Ottey, JAM 10.91; 2. Nanceen Perry,
USA 11.24; 3. Shakedia Jones, USA 11.32; 4. Alenka Bikar, Slovenia 11.36;
5. Elly Hutton, AUS 11.41; 6. Sharon Cripps, AUS 11.46; 7. Suzanne
Broadrick, AUS 11.48; 8. Melissa Medlicott, AUS 11.71. 
 
WOMEN'S 200m (+1.9): 1. Melinda Gainsfordtaylor, AUS 22.60; 2. Cydonie
Motersill, CAY 22.95; 3. Shani Anderson, Great Britan 23.20; 4. Vlama Bass,
STK 23.41; 5. Ladonna Antoine, CAN 23.49; 6. Emily Maher, IRL 23.73; 7.
Melanie Kleeberg, AUS 23.91; 8. Tonique Williams, BAH 24.48. 
 
WOMEN'S 400m Heat 1: 1. Sandy Richards, JAM 52.06; 2. Margaret Fox, CAN
54.22; 3. Melissa Straker, BAH 54.24; 4. Candice Jones, CAN 55.67; 5.
Maritza Salas, PUR 57.21; - Tonya Jordan, BAR DNF. 

WOMEN'S 400m Heat 2: 1. Foy Williams, CAN 53.25; 2. Malitza Castro, PUR
54.89; 3. Sandra moya, PUR 54.96; 4. Rebecca Irwin, AUS 56.06. 

WOMEN'S 400m Heat 3: 1. Mikele Barder, USA 52.90; 2. Stephanie Price, AUS
53.48; 3. Tonique Williams, BAH 54.30; 4. Yameli Ortiz, PUR 55.92; -
Beatriz Cruz, PUR DNF. 

WOMEN'S 400m Heat 4: 1. Monique Henderson, USA 52.89; 2. Semantha George,
CAN 53.61; 3. Celina Clarke, JAM 53.62; 4. Cathalina Walsh, STV 56.46; 5.
Caitlin Willis, AUS 57.34. 

WOMEN'S 800m: 1. Tamsyn Lewis, AUS 2:03.40; 2. Jolanda Ceplak, SLV 2:04.38;
3. Sonya Osullivan, IRL 2:04.66; 4. Georgie Clarke, AUS 2:04.92; 5. Leah
Pells, CAN 2:05.52. 

WOMEN'S 1,500m: 1. Sonya Osullivan, IRL 4:09.97; 2. Hyman, JAM 4:10.31; 3.
Marla Runayn, USA 4:10.48; 4. Sarah Jamieson, AUS 4:14.69; - Helima
Jovinik, Slovenia DNF; - Jolanda Ceplak, SLV DNF. 
 
WOMEN'S 100m HURDLES: (+1.6): 1. Bridgitte Foster, JAM 12.92; 2. Debbie
Edwards, AUS 13.20; 3. Perdita Felicien, CAN 13.30; 4. Jacqui Munro, AUS
13.36; 5. Georgina Power, AUS 13.84; 6. Fiona Cullen, QLD 14.11. 

WOMEN'S 400m HURDLES 1. Jana Pitmann, AUS 56.12; 2. Karlene Houghton, CAN
57.16; 3. Petrina Allen, JAM 57.25; 4. Stephanie Price, AUS 57.34. 

WOMEN'S 4X100m RELAY 1. JAM 43.78; 2. AUS 44.23; 3. CAN 44.42. 

WOMEN'S 4X400m RELAY 1. USA 3:35.16; 2. PUR 3:42.46. 

WOMEN'S LONG JUMP 1. Elva Gouldbourne, JAM 6.79m (+3.3) [6.66m (+1.6)]; 2.
Chantal Brunner, NZL 6.68m (+2.1) [6.64m (+1.9)]; 3. Browyn Thompson, AUS
6.64m (+2.7) [6.47m (+1.2)]; 4. Jackie Edwards, BAH 6.63m (+2.1); 5. Lacena
Golding, JAM 6.55m (+2.2) [6.19m (+1.8)]; 6. Shermin Oksuz, AUS 6.33m
(+3.6) [6.28m (+1.3)]; 7. Oluchi Elechi, NIG 6.27m (+2.8) [6.13m (+1.9)];
8. Flora Hyaneth, VIR 6.09m (+3.0) [5.86m (+1.4)]. 

WOMEN'S HIGH JUMP 1. Amy Acuff, USA 1.88m; 2. Petria Price, AUS 1.85m; 3.
Alison Inverarity, AUS 1.80m; 4. Katherine Spalding, AUS 1.75m. 

WOMEN'S TRIPLE JUMP 1. Keisha Spencer, JAM 13.63m (+2.9) [12.76m (-2.1)];
2. Sarah Sydney, AUS 12.12m (-2.0); 3. Mellissa Moss, QLD 11.69m (-1.4). 

WOMEN'S POLE VAULT 1. Stacy Dragila, USA 4.40m; 2. Emma George, AUS 4.15m;
3. Kelly Suttle, USA 4.00m; 3. Melanie Mueller, USA 4.00m. 

WOMEN'S SHOT PUT 1. Lieja Koeman, NED 17.88m. 

WOMEN'S DISCUS THROW 1. Lisa-Maree Vizianari, AUS 63.18m; 2. Suzy Powell,
USA 61.74m; 3. Alison Lever, AUS 60.41m; 4. Debbie Pickersgill, QLD 50.36m;
5. Deborah Lovely, AUS 45.28m. 

WOMEN'S JAVELIN THROW 1. Laverne Eve, BAH 62.01m; 2. Olivia McKoy, JAM
58.29m. 
 
WOMEN'S HAMMER THROW 1. Debbie Sosimenko, AUS 66.10m; 2. Karyne Perkins,
AUS 63.27m; 3. Tasha Williams, NZL 61.47m; 4. Michelle Fornier, CAN 57.90m;
5. Caroline Wittrin, CAN 56.65m; 6. Deborah Lovely, AUS 54.70m; 7. Nicole
Robertson, AUS 53.40m. 

MEN'S 100m Heat 1: (+1.3): 1. Jason Gardener, Great Britan 10.16; 2.
Patrick Jarrett, JAM 10.27; 3. Paul Dibella, AUS 10.39; 4. Osvaldo Nieves,
PUR 10.60; 5. Erki Wool, EST 10.72. 

MEN'S 100m Heat 2: (+1.0): 1. Llewelyn Bredwood, JAM 10.24; 2. Ian Mackie,
Great Britan 10.36; 3. Iram Lewis, BAH 10.62; 4. Jorge Richardson, PUR
10.64; 5. Henrik Dagard, Sweden 10.83. 

MEN'S 100m Heat 3: (+1.9): 1. Lindel Frater, JAM 10.24; 2. Renward Wells,
BAH 10.26; 3. Piere Brown, CAN 10.41; 4. Acman Urban, Slovenia 10.50; 5.
Kieran Noonan, AUS 10.53; 6. Justeric Matic, Slovenia 10.60; 7. Craig
Sconce, AUS 10.81; 8. Carlos Santos, PUR 10.84. 

MEN'S 100m Heat 4: (+2.8): 1. Wellington Sanders, BAH 10.57; 2. Rogelio
Pizarro, PUR 10.59; 3. Felix Fernandez, PUR 10.73. 

MEN'S 100m Final (+3.1): 1. Jaso

t-and-f: geting us back to the Olympic prediction thang

[Andre Sammartino]

Here's some more half-assed prognostications:

Women's 100m:
1. Jones, for gold medal no.1 (the biggest certainty of her five events)
2. Ottey, presuming she gets a run, for her most impressive Olympic showing
and a big story
3. Thanou, been in hiding but ran fast early on
4. Miller, better over 200m
5. Ferguson
6. Pintusevich-Block
7. Arron, after terrible start
8. Sturrup
Time: 10.69

Women's 200m
1. Jones, may be tiring by now, with LJ distractions
2. Miller, will run a tiring Jones close
3. Ferguson
4. Freeman, in new Australian record
5. Gainsford-Taylor
6. Perry
7. Davis-Thompson
8. Jayasinghe (or Hewitt for three aussies)
Time 21.89

Women's 400m
1. Freeman, and the stadium will roar
2. Merry, let's see if linford has her tapered right
3. Guevara, strong
4. Nazarova, darkhorse, could be biggest threat
5. Colander-Richardson, peaked two months ago
6. Ogunkoya
7. Graham
8. Collins
Time 49.20 (and much quicker if Perec turns up)

Women's 800m
1. Mutola, finally
2. Formanova
3. Miles-Clark, needs more races
4. Graf 
5. Tsyganova
6.Tamsyn Lewis, because Coach Peter Fortune (also Cathy freeman's coach)
knows what he's doing, and because she runs for Bayside,  and because she
does have 51s speed and a lot of fighting ability
7. Raspopova
8. Vriesde, because she's always there
Time 1.56.98

Women's 1500m
1. Masterkova, maybe... this event is so wide open
2. Jacobs, underraced as always, but is so impressive when on song
3. Favor-Hamilton, why not?
4. Beclea-Szekely
5. Crowley, was 5th in Atlanta, has been off and had a baby, peaking at
right time again
6. Dulecha
7. Rogachova
8. Sacramento
Time 3.59.95

because it might make a difference to this whole "five golds" thing
(although i actually think the 4x4 is as bigger a worry - beware the russians)

Women's Long-Jump
1. Kotova, produced a lot of clutch jumps in Golden League this season
2. May, love her to win after she was robbed last year, but she hasn't
really got it together
3. Drechsler, and another medal in 2004...
4. Jones, unlike most, i admire her for putting her neck on the line, but
her technique is still worse than most 12 year olds
5.  Kravets
6. Burrell
7. Johansson
8. Barber?
Distance 7.14m

And for symmetry's sake
Men's Long Jump
1. Beckford, best of an inconsistent bunch
2. Pedroso, dropped form in past month or two
3. Burge, egged on by local crowd, Lamela style 
4. Lamela, the big man's back
5. Sosunov, probably the form athlete
6. Lister
7. Taurima, although he's capable of anything from 1st-20th
8. Stringfellow, and goes out partying with Taurima afterwards
Distance 8.35m 


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t-and-f: spanish team picked

[Andre Sammartino]

from IAAF page, Spanish team (Estevez was left out)

Men - 100 & 200: Venancio José; 400: David Canal; 4x400: Canal, Iván
Rodríguez,
 Andrés Martínez, Antonio Andrés, Iñigo Monreal; 800: José Maria Cerezo,
Roberto
 Parra; 1,500: Andrés Díaz, José Antonio Redolat, Juan Carlos Higuero;
5,000: Yusef
 El Nasri, Alberto García; 10,000: Enrique Molina, José Ríos, Teodoro Cuñado;
 Marathon: Abel Antón, Martín Fiz, Alberto Juzdado; 400 hurdles: Monreal,
3,000
 steeplechase: Eliseo Martín, Luis Miguel Martín, Marco Cepeda; pole vault:
Montxu
 Miranda, Javier García Chico; long jump: Yago Lamela; triple jump: Raúl
Chapado;
 shot putt: Manuel Martínez; discus: David Martínez; decathlon: Javier
Benet; 20 km
 walk: Francisco Fernández, David Domínguez, David Marquez; 50 km walk: Jesús
 Angel García, Valentín Massana, Mikel Odriozola.

 Women - 400: Norfalia Carabali; 4x400: Carabali, Mayte Martínez, Miriam
Bravo,
 Elena Córcoles, Julia Alba; 800: Mayte Martínez; 1,500: Natalia Rodríguez,
Nuria
 Fernández; 5,000: Marta Domínguez, Beatriz Santiago; 10,000: Teresa Recio,
María
 Abel; Marathon: Ana Isabel Alonso, Griselda González, Maria Luisa Muñoz; high
 jump: Marta Mendía; pole vault: Mari Mar Sánchez; long jump: Concha Montaner;
 triple jump: Carlota Castrejana; shot putt: Martina de la Puente; discus:
Alice
 Matejkova; javelin: Marta Miguez; heptathlon: Inma Clopés; 20 km walk: María
 Vasco, Eva Pérez, Encarna Granados.

Does anyone know of a spot with all teams listed?

Also for those considering a trip downunder for the 'Lympics (or the
Goodwill Games or Grand Prix Final in 2001) don't miss this completely
accurate guide to Australian culture: http://www.geocities.com/topaussieguide/




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Re: (fwd) re: t-and-f: Brussels 10k

[Andre Sammartino]

It was my understanding that runners had been wearing computer chips in the
bibs this season in the big Euro meets, hence the impressive "distance
behind" split for the runners in the lead pack that had been coming through
each lap on the TV coverage (at least the UK version being shown
downunder). I didn't see the Brussels meet.  Did they not use this technology?


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At 20:43 5/09/00 -0700, R.T. wrote:
>On Tue, 5 Sep 2000 22:26:40 -0500 (CDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>Wasn't there a relatively recent IAAF rule requiring lap scorers in the
>long races and specifying that no lap scorer was supposed to be
>responsible for more than 3 runners?
>
>If so, there should be lap sheets for each runner recording the
>completion of each lap (and if they were sensible, the approximate
>split time for each lap -- not to provide splits, but to help spot
>mistakes.)
>
>Maybe I remember incorrectly, and it was only a recommendation or
>something.  We had already been doing this for a long time in indoor
>meets.
>
>Pat Palmer
>
>

t-and-f: re: Time to start talking about the games !!

[Andre Sammartino]

I wholeheartedly agree with the need to focus our energies on Olympic
predictions:

here's my early prognostications:

Men's 100m:
1. Greene, because he was so impressive on Friday night, and J.Smith ain't
gonna get it wrong
2. Surin, got a great championship record 
3. Drummond, doesn't, but also looked very solid on Friday also
4. Chambers, on the twisted logic that some Brit has to get up
5. Boldon, a better 200m runner
6. Obikwelu, was my tip for silver a month ago, but he seems to have the
start problems of Christine Arron and has also lost a bit of pace
7. Johnson
8. Shirvington, which'll give the press far too much to talk about, but he
did look as impressive as he's ever looked running 10.11 in a cold olympic
stadium at Aus trials a month ago
Time: 9.89

Men's 200m
1. Obikwelu, if he can pull out a run like his semi in seville
2. Boldon, just doesn't get the best out himself in championships (can
anyone say m.ottey?)
3. Capel, just a bit underdone
4. Heard, love him to get a medal
5. Thompson, making up somewhat for two breaks in 100m semi :) (only way i
could get shirvo in)
6. Fredericks, although he wouldn't normally run except when fit his last
Olympics may cloud his judgement  
7. Miller
8. da Silva
Time 19.78, sub 20 down to 5th belying myth that this is a soft event

Men's 400m
1. Johnson, with an extremely low 43s WR
daylight
2. Haughton, i've got a feeling about him, back to form of a few years back
3. Cardenas, consistently good 
4. Harrison
5. Pettigrew
6. Blackwood
7. Baulch
8. Dwyer
Time 43.05, but only first 4 inside 45s

Men's 800m
1. W.Kipketer, cos i want him to win
2. Said-Guerni, cos he's a superb racer with about the second quickest leg
speed in the field
3. Borzakovskiy, cos he has the quickest and will be able to pick off the
tiring front runners
4. Kimutai
5. Bucher, leaving his best run in Zurich
6. Tellez
7. Cremer
8. Sepeng
Time 1.42.16 (blanket finish, all under 1.44)

Mens 1500m
1. El Guerrouj, simply the best
2. Ngeny, has suprisingly under-raced this year, he may produce something
special
3. Redolat (because of the spanish traditon, although there is some
contention as the trio's idenities - see report on IAAF page)
4. Sullivan 
5. Diaz
6. Shabunin
7.Lagat
8. Rotich
9. Maazouzi
10. Silva
11. Bosch
12. Baba
Time. 3.28.56

Um, that's enough for now... may come back with some field event and
women's shorter races tips later... paid work to do and all that...

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Re: t-and-f: flo-jo

[Andre Sammartino]

At 22:06 3/09/00 -0700, A.J. Craddock wrote:
>I see nothing there about Flo-Jo.
>
>Where is it?
>
>Tony Craddock
>
Sorry about that, bad cutting and pasting on my part

try:
http://www.olympics.smh.com.au/athletics/2000/09/04/FFX3FIA2KCC.html

Story is below

Flo-Jo's doctor believes the world's fastest woman was a drug cheat

 10:48AM, Sep 04

 A granite slab etched with a black-and-white photograph marks her resting
place in El Toro Memorial Park. Flo-Jo, who died aged 38 in September 1998,
is the fastest women who ever lived: the holder of two world records for
the 100m and 200m that may never be beaten.

 Yet just 11 days before the Sydney Games, there is open speculation that
Florence Griffith Joyner used drugs. An investigation by British newspaper
The Sunday Telegraph has added further fuel to suspicions, with a coach
speaking of her drug use, and Dr Robert Kerr, a sports injuries specialist
who treated her, telling of his conviction that she was a cheat.

 According to fellow athletes, coaches, doctors and officials, Flo-Jo was
on banned drugs before she won three gold medals and a silver in the 1988
Seoul Olympics. 

 Two years earlier Flo-Jo, who won silver in the 100m at the 1984 Los
Angeles Games, was on the wane. Disillusioned with athletics, she stopped
training in 1986 and gained almost 30kg. A year later husband Al Joyner
became her coach.

 Her subsequent transformation shook athletics. Flo-Jo went from being
outside the top 10 in 1987 to smashing the world 100m record in Olympic
qualifying the next year, with a time of 10.49s.

 In Seoul, she won the 100m in a wind-assisted Olympic record time and set
a world record for the 200m - 21.34s. She also won a gold medal in the
4x100m relay and silver in the 4x400m relay.

 Her times, however, were not all that had changed. Her physique had
altered beyond recognition. She had bulging muscles and huge veins.
Observers said her voice was deeper and her jaw had elongated, known
side-effects of the banned human growth hormone (hGH).

 Then Flo-Jo, who explained her rapid improvement on everything from her
new diet to doing up to 5,000 sit-ups a day, surprised the world by
retiring in February 1989, just months before the introduction of mandatory
out-of-competition drug testing. In the past, the only person to make
public allegations against Flo-Jo based on first-hand evidence was Darrell
Robinson, a former US 400m runner who claimed he had supplied her with hGH.
She dismissed him as a "liar", but did not sue and he stands by his claims.

 Now, others connected to Flo-Jo have spoken out. Kerr, who treated Flo-Jo
for an ankle injury, said: "From the combination of her physical appearance
and her increased performance, I believe she was on drugs."

 Kerr should know: before steroids were outlawed in 1975, he prescribed
them to many athletes.

 Even more explicit was the evidence of a leading coach, who said he had
been told by a woman athlete who trained with Flo-Jo before the 1988
Olympics that she took hGH and other steroids, but did not like to inject
herself.

 "Each girl thought she was the only one injecting Flo-Jo but, in fact,
they all were and so she was multiplying her doses," he said.

 Other athletes had told him Flo-Jo used drugs from 1981.

 Pat Connolly, a former US athlete turned coach, said she was also
convinced of Flo-Jo's drug abuse but claimed US officials had not wanted to
catch their top athletes, preferring them to win drug-assisted than lose. 

 "I don't think Flo-Jo is to blame as much as the establishment that
allowed her and others to get away with it," she said.

 Her views have been echoed by Dr Robert Voy, the chief medical officer of
the US Olympic Committee for five years until 1988, who claimed his work
was constantly undermined. At the weekend Voy said: "Many people at USOC
were in the business for one reason: to bring home gold. Just how the
athletes accomplished that, few cared." 

 Voy said positive test results were hushed up. He believes that if
Canadian Ben Johnson had been American, he would never have been caught in
Seoul.

 He told of a discus thrower being unconcerned when he failed a drugs test:
the results were never made public and weeks later he won a medal at a
championship. "It seems that nothing has changed today," he said.

 Al Joyner has continued to deny his late wife took performance enhancing
drugs.

 The Sunday Telegraph, London

 


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t-and-f: Rieti Results - Frankie Fredericks is finally back

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IAAF Grand Prix II - courtesy of http://www.iaaf.org/

Rieti 2000
Rieti, 03-Sep-2000

RESULTS MEN

100 METRES Race 1 - MEN   Wind: +0.1

1 Zakari Abdul AzizGHA  10.13
2 Lewis Brian  USA  10.34
3 Mitchell Dennis  USA  10.37
4 Ertzgard JohnNOR  10.40
5 Colombo Andrea   ITA  10.43
6 Devonish Marlon  GBR  10.54

100 METRES Race 2 - MEN   Wind: +0.8

1 Scuderi FrancescoITA  10.32
2 Torrieri Marco   ITA  10.36
3 Verdecchia Luca  ITA  10.41
4 Rabino AndreaITA  10.49
5 Morbidelli Giorgio   ITA  10.62
6 Donati Massimiliano  ITA  10.64

200 METRES  - MEN Wind: +0.3

1 Obikwelu Francis NGR  20.21
2 Moen GeirNOR  20.63
3 Devonish Marlon  GBR  20.79
4 Fredericks Frank NAM  20.79
5 Turner Douglas   GBR  21.08
6 Donati Massimiliano  ITA  21.44

400 METRES  - MEN

1 Johnson Michael  USA  44.46
2 Richardson Mark  GBR  45.14
3 Davis Jerome USA  45.30
4 Attene AlessandroITA  45.47
5 Omodiale Sylvester   NGR  46.08
6 Toledo Juan PedroMEX  46.11

800 METRES Race 1 - MEN

1 Longo Andrea ITA1:43.74
2 Yiampoy William  KEN1:44.25
3 Hecini Adem  ALG1:44.67
4 Gray  TrinityUSA1:44.91
5 Korir Paul   KEN1:44.97
6 Hatungimana Arthémon BUR1:45.12
7 Téllez Norberto  CUB1:45.39
8 Makau CharlesKEN1:45.57
  Kiptoo Kipkoech Luke KENDNF

800 METRES Race 2 - MEN

1 Yagoub Babiker Mohammed  SUD1:47.45
2 Onyancha Frederick   KEN1:47.72
3 Caulfield Daniel IRL1:47.91
4 Giocondi Andrea  ITA1:47.99
5 Dineen DarrenIRL1:48.27
6 Dunne Niall  IRL1:48.49
  Battinelli AlessandroITADNF
  dos Santos Osmar Barbosa BRADNS

GP
1500 METRES  - MEN
Pts
1 Ngeny Noah   KEN3:30.42   5.0
2 Kipkurui BenjaminKEN3:30.73   4.0
3 Boulahfane Kamal ALG3:33.07   3.0
4 Khaldi Mohamed   ALG3:33.40   2.0
5 Koech Benson KEN3:35.00   1.0
6 Chirchir Cornelius   KEN3:35.16
7 Jennings Gabriel USA3:35.21
8 Keino Martin KEN3:35.67
9 Tanui WilliamKEN3:35.68
   10 Sghyr Ismaïl FRA3:36.80
   11 Abdellah AbdelhaqMAR3:38.44
   12 Bessou Laïd  ALG3:38.79
   13 Vicari FerdinandoITA3:42.65
  Kiptoo David KENDNF
  Lelei David  KENDNF
  Zorko Branko CRODNF

5000 METRES  - MEN

1 Komen Daniel KEN   13:04.43
2 Molina Enrique   ESP   13:18.48
3 Bekele Kenenisa  ETH   13:20.57
4 Emere Alene  ETH   13:21.17
5 Kirui Ismael KEN   13:26.23
6 El Himer Driss   FRA   13:28.57
7 Getanda JamesKEN   13:31.02
8 Di Napoli GennaroITA   13:33.02
9 Moussaoui Samir  ALG   13:34.42
   10 Boulahia Ahmed   ALG   13:54.64
   11 Arlati AndreaITA   13:57.46
  Chékhémani AbdelkaderFRADNF
  Hauser Bradley   USADNF
  Kibet Robert KENDNF
  Koskei James KENDNF
  Maranga EdwinKENDNF
  Maritim DavidKENDNF
  Parma StefanoITADNF

GP
HIGH JUMP  - MEN
Pts
1 Matusevich KonstantinISR   2.30   5.0
2 Leeper NathanUSA   2.30   4.0
3 Krehmic ElvirBSH   2.20   3.0
4 Klyugin Sergey   RUS   2.20   2.0
5 Aleksejev Marko  EST   2.20   1.0
6 Bernasco

t-and-f: flo-jo

[Andre Sammartino]

Three is presumably a whole lot more on this floating around the Web:

Flo-Jo's doctor believes the world's fastest woman was a drug cheat

Yet just 11 days before the Sydney Games, there is open speculation that
Florence Griffith Joyner used
drugs. An investigation by British newspaper The Sunday Telegraph has added
further fuel to suspicions,
with a coach speaking of her drug use, and Dr Robert Kerr, a sports
injuries specialist who treated her, telling
of his conviction that she was a cheat.

(much more in this story...)

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/common/story_page/0,4511,1161376%255E601,00.
html


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t-and-f: Olympic drug-testing and preparations

[Andre Sammartino]

Athletes greeted by drug blitz
By Trudy Harris and John Lehmann

04sep00

DRUG testers have swooped on star athletes within hours of their arrival in
Australia,
 marking the start of the biggest-ever Olympics drug-testing regime.

As more than 4000 athletes poured in to Sydney at the weekend, SOCOG drug
testers
moved in, conducting on Saturday the first of 3200 urine tests on
Australian and
international athletes.

The first blood tests for the banned endurance drug erythropoietin (EPO)
were also
undertaken yesterday as Games officials lived up to their promise to expose
cheats at
the 2000 Olympics.

The testing regime by the International Olympic Committee and Sydney Olympic
organisers is substantially higher than the 1900 tests at the 1996 Atlanta
Games.

British hurdler Colin Jackson was tested within hours of arriving in
Brisbane on Saturday
along with 10 colleagues. Two were woken by doping officers working for the
Australian
Sports Drug Agency.

"It seems they are testing more than ever. They were tested barely three
hours after
arriving," said head British athletics coach Max Jones.

Dutch world record holder Inge de Bruijn was tested two days after she
arrived in
Newcastle north of Sydney last month and again within two weeks. "I have been
tested twice within two weeks but I have no problem with that," the swimmer
said.

As the drug tests began, Sydney finally took on the atmosphere of an
Olympic city –
the streets awash with banners and Games workers and volunteers in brightly
coloured
uniforms.

Sydney airport experienced one of its busiest days on Saturday, with 145
aircraft
carrying 30,270 passengers. Another 27,000 arrived yesterday, with the
troubled
luggage system coping with the strain.

With only 11 days to go until the opening ceremony, Premier Bob Carr
admitted to a
bout of pre-Olympic nerves.

"We're all nervous – this is the biggest peacetime event," he told the Nine
network.
"The pressures will be immense."

Mr Carr and Olympics Minister Michael Knight pinpointed Sydney's fragile
rail system as
the potential weak link in Games preparations.

The Premier called for an end to "any bickering or any arguments or any
point scoring"
over Games preparations, saying Australia was poised to become the world's
"favoured
brand" of the next decade.

"We're all in it together as Australians, black and white, Liberal and
Labor," he said.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/common/story_page/0,4511,1161376%255E601,00.
html

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Re: t-and-f: pre-olympic meets downunder (incl.A.Harrison 44.74)

[Andre Sammartino]

Story of contest:

http://sport.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,1160603%255E5282,00.html

AMERICAN Savante Stringfellow won the long jump at the pre-Olympics meet in
Brisbane today, making a mockery of Australian Jai Taurima's taunt that
black men could not leap in the cold.

Taurima said during the week that the cooler climate in Sydney would mean
"you can pretty much knock out all the dark athletes (at the Olympics)".

But in Brisbane temperatures of about 17 Celsius, Stringfellow won with two
jumps of 8.23 metres before revealing he had competed in his running shoes
after leaving his jumping shoes at the team hotel.

Taurima was second with 8.13m, with fellow Australian and Commonwealth
champion Peter Burge third with 8.10m.

"I wish it was a bit cooler," Stringfellow said. "(Apparently) we don't
jump real good in that weather."

Stringfellow said Taurima had made a mistake in providing him with extra
motivation.

 "If I do this in Sydney I'm going to be real good," Stringfellow said. 

"This was only a start; I can go a lot further than this.

"I wished (Taurima) the best of luck at the Olympics and he told me 'good
jumping'.

"I'm the bigger man so I went over to him first and told him 'good luck'
and shook his hand."


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Re: t-and-f: pre-olympic meets downunder (incl.A.Harrison 44.74)

[Andre Sammartino]

This is getting a far bit of press Down Under:

http://www.olympics.smh.com.au/athletics/2000/09/04/FFXI3K82KCC.html

They didn't exactly kiss and make-up but they came as close as two big
boofy blokes dare after staging a langing match.

United States long jumper Savante Stringfellow and his Australian
man-at-war Jai Taurima shook hands rather than traded blows when they came
face-to-face for the first time yesterday at a pre-Olympic international
meeting in Brisbane.

Stringfellow was expected to kick sand in Taurima's face after the larrikin
Australian made some off-hand remarks about American jumpers being
dribblers and unable to jump in the cold because they were "dark".


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t-and-f: pre-olympic meets downunder (incl.A.Harrison 44.74)

[Andre Sammartino]

ATHLETICS AUSTRALIA
INFORMATION RELEASE
Sunday 3rd September 2000
Pre Olympic Meet, Nudgee College, Brisbane

WOMEN'S 100 METRES (2 heats, collated results)
1. Melinda Gainsford-Taylor, AUS 11.16 w:2.1; 2. Veronica Campbell, JAM
11.18
w:2.1; 3. Nova Peris Kneebone, AUS 11.45 w:2.1; 4. Elly Hutton, AUS 11.54
w:2.0; 5. Atia Weeks, CAN 11.56 w:2.1; 5. Valma Bass, STK 11.56 w:2.1; 7.
Sharon Cripps, AUS 11.59 w:2.1; 8. Chantal Brunner, NZL 11.71 w:2.0; 9.
Joanne
Durant, BAR 11.74 w:2.1; 10. Melissa Medlicott, AUS 11.82 w:2.1; 11. Melanie
Kleeberg, AUS 11.87 w:2.0.

WOMEN'S 200 METRES
1. Melinda Gainsford-Taylor, AUS 22.73 w:0.8; 2. Nova Peris Kneebone, AUS
23.50
w:0.8; 3. Valma Bass, STK 23.74 w:0.8; 4. Melissa Stralcer, BAR 23.93 w:0.8;
5. Joanne Durant, BAR 24.11 w:0.8; 6. Melanie Kleeberg, AUS 24.15 w:0.8.

WOMEN'S 400 METRES
1. Lee Naylor, AUS 52.84; 2. Michelle Burgher, JAM 52.97; 3. Celena Clarke,
JAM 53.36; 4. Tayna Oxley, BAR 53.95; 5. Andrea Thomas, JAM 54.11; 6.
Sherline
Williams, BAR 54.22; 7. Tonya Jordan, BAR 58.34.

WOMEN'S 800 METRES
1. Susan Andrews, AUS 2:00.32; 2. Toni Hodgkinson, NZL 2:00.62; 3. Charmaine
Howell, JAM 2:04.45; 4. Sarah Jamieson, AUS 2:05.84; 5. Alice Goodbeg, AUS
2:09.61; 6. E Sigbont, AUS 2:10.02; 7. Lisa Corrigan, AUS 2:10.33; 8. Erin
Hargrave, AUS 2:10.76.

WOMEN'S 1,500 METRES
1. Marla Runyan, USA 4:11.83; 2. Mardrea Hyman, JAM 4:14.21; 3. Anne Cross,
AUS 4:15.28; 4. Kate Richardson, AUS 4:22.81.

WOMEN'S 400 METRE HURDLES
1. Jana Pittman, AUS 55.61; 2. Petrina Allen, JAM 56.15; 3. Stephaine Price,
AUS 56.47; 4. Adriene McIvor, IRL 58.74.

WOMEN'S 4x100 METRE RELAY
1. AUS 43.38.

WOMEN'S HIGH JUMP
1. Karen Beautle, JAM 1.80m; 2. Alison Inverarity, AUS 1.80m.

WOMEN'S LONG JUMP
1. Elva Gouldbourne, JAM 6.74m w:1.2; 2. Lacena Golding, JAM 6.52m w:2.4; 3.
Chantal Brunner, NZL 6.47m w:1.8; 4. Bronwyn Thompson, AUS 6.45m w:2.2; 5.
Kathleen Norman, QLD 6.05m w:3.4; 6. Jane Jamieson, AUS 5.88m w:1.7.

WOMEN'S DISCUS THROW
1. Alison Lever, AUS 63.32m; 2. Deborah Lovely, AUS 52.71m.

WOMEN'S HAMMER THROW
1. Debbie Sosimenko, AUS 65.97m; 2. Karyne Perkins, AUS 64.35m; 3. Tasha
Williams, NZL 63.85m; 4. Michelle Fournier, CAN 59.39m; 5. Deborah Lovely,
AUS
52.79m.

WOMEN'S JAVELIN THROW
1. Olivia McKoy, JAM 57.04m.

 MEN'S 100 METRES  (2 heats, collated results)
1. Kim Collins, STK 10.15 w:1.3; 2. Matt Shirvington, AUS 10.25 w:1.3; 3.
Lindel Frater, JAM 10.31 w:1.3; 4. Donnovan Powell, JAM 10.33 w:1.3; 5.
Dwight
Thomas, JAM 10.37 w:1.3; 6. Patrick Johnson, AUS 10.49 w:1.3; 7. Paul
Dibella,
AUS 10.52 w:1.3; 8. Scott Richardson, AUS 10.64 w:1.3; 9. Tim Williams, AUS
10.71 w:1.3; 10. Pat Birgan, QLD 10.78 w:1.3; 11. Wellington Saunders, BAH
11.02 w:1.3; 12. Scott Ferrier, AUS 11.20 w:1.3.

MEN'S 200 METRES
1. Darryl Wohlsen, AUS 20.89 w:0.7; 2. Melvin Lister, USA 21.52 w:0.7.

MEN'S 400 METRES
Heat 1: 1. Alvin Harrison, USA 44.74; 2. Calvin Harrison, USA 45.17; 3.
Davian Clarke, JAM 45.70; 4. Michael Blackwood, JAM 46.02; 5. Michael
McDonald, JAM 46.28; 6. Tim Munning, BAH 46.62; 7. Christopher Brown, BAH
46.63; - Fabian Rollins, BAR DQ.
Heat 2: 1. Danny McFarlane, JAM 46.52; 2. Brandon Simpson, JAM 46.76; 3.
Sanjay Ayer, JAM 46.96; 4. Carl Oliver, BAH 47.12; 5. Brad Jamieson, AUS
47.49; 6. Wilan Louis, BAR 48.53; 7. Eugene Farrell, IRL 48.59; 8. Cameron
Brown, AUS 48.87.

MEN'S 800 METRES
1. Graham Foley, AUS 1:49.06; 2. Milton Browne, BAR 1:49.13; 3. Isireli
Naikekelevesi, AUS 1:49.41; 4. Mark Fountain, AUS 1:51.75.

MEN'S 1,500 METRES
1. Duncan Long, AUS 3:49.13; 2. Stuart Bowden, QLD 3:51.19; 3. Abdi
Abdirahmen, USA 3:51.37.

MEN'S 110 METRE HURDLES
1. Robin Korvene, NED 13.53 w:1.3; 2. Kyle Vander Kuyp, AUS 13.77 w:1.3; 3.
Gabriel Burnett, BAR 14.11 w:1.3; 4. Andrew Cameron, AUS 14.39 w:1.3.

MEN'S 400 METRE HURDLES
1. Ian Weakley, JAM 49.40; 2. Blair Young, AUS 49.68; 3. Curt Young, PAN
50.56; 4. Victor Houston, BAR 51.13; 5. David Cappelano, AUS 52.62.

MEN'S 4X100 METRE RELAY
1. SIERRA LEONE 40.37; 2. AUS "B" 41.84 3. AUS "A" DSQ

MEN'S HIGH JUMP
1. Kenny Evans, USA 2.24m; 2. Glen Howard, NZL 2.20m; 3. Dane Richter, AUS
2.05m; 4. Claston Barnard, JAM 2.00m.

MEN'S LONG JUMP
1. Savante Stringfellow, USA 8.23m w:0.7; 2. Jai Taurima, AUS 8.13m w:1.1;
3.
Peter Burge, AUS 8.10m w:1.0; 4. Erki Nool, EST 7.90m w:1.8; 5. Tim
Parravicini, AUS 7.66m w:3.3; 6. Scott Ferrier, AUS 7.17m w:0.6; - Claston
Barnard, JAM FOUL w:NWI.

MEN'S TRIPLE JUMP
1. Andrew Murphy, AUS 16.46m w:0.9.

MEN'S SHOT PUT
1. Justin Anlezark, AUS 19.59m; 2. Rhys Jones, AUS 18.23m; 3. AL Suwaioi
Khaud, QATAR 16.68m; 4. Wade Hastie, AUS 15.26m; 5. Claston Barnard, JAM
15.05m; 6. Stuart Rendell, AUS 14.99m; 7. Aaron Fish, AUS 14.61m.

MEN'S HAMMER THROW
1. Aaron Fish, AUS 75.62m; 2. Stuart Rendell, AUS 72.58m; 3. Wade Hastie,
AUS
 62.64m.

MEN'S JAVELIN THROW
1. Adrian Hatcher, AUS 82.35m; 2. Andrew Currey, AUS 80.14m.



This information has been provided by:
Athletics Australia, Suite 22, Fawkner Towers, 431 St Kilda 

t-and-f: Longo sets new European best for 600m

[Andre Sammartino]

  Palio Citta della Quercia, Rovereto, Italy, August 30th

  Men

  100m Race A (-0.6): 1. J Laynes (USA) 10.27, 2. T Harden
(USA) 10.30,
  3. S Tilli 10.33, 4. A Coilombo 10.45, 5. F Scuderi
10.51, 6. D Phillips
  (USA) 10.69

  400m: 1. W Hooker (USA) 45.90, 2. C Chukwu (NGR) 45.93,
3. A Saber
  46.84, 4. A Barberi 47.31, 5. A Dos Santos 47.32, 6. M
Salvucci 47.64

  600m: 1. A Longo 1:14.41, 2. T Gray (USA) 1:14.48, 3. C
Makau (KEN)
  1:16.40, 4. M De Meo 1:16.95, 5. R Geemy (KEN) 1:17.07,
6. M Kigen
  (KEN) 1:17.79, 7. A Ceccarelli 1:18.05, 8. L Ruzza
1:25.81, E Vallett dnf,
  M Meissner dnf

  800m Race A: 1. P Korir (KEN) 1:45.20, 2. O Dos Santos
(BRA) 1:46.19,
  3. G Mazzoni 1:46.92, 4. D Dinneen (USA) 1:47.13, 5. S
Rono (KEN)
  1:47.48, 6. N Duhne (IRL) 1:48.33, 7. F Onyancha (KEN)
1:48.95, 8. J
  Mayo (GBR) 1:49.39, 9. C Obrist 1:49.57

  1m: 1. D Maritim (KEN) 27:39.31, 2. P Kemei (KEN)
27:40.08, 3. R
  Kipchumba (KEN) 27:43.14, 4. D Caimmi 27:48.64, 5. M Gamba
  28:01.55, 6. M Mazza 28:04.71, 7 .M Haliu 28:40.06, 8. E
Mitei
  28:43.93, 9. F Simionato 29:29.72, 10. M Galeasso 29:36.37

  3000mSC: 1. L Bessou (ALG) 8:21.72, 2. L Di Pardo
8:24.56, 3. J Svenoy
  (USA) 8:25.82, 4. R Wojcik 8:29.61, 5. G Maffei 8:32,67,
6. M Birir (KEN)
  8:35.60, 7. C Smith (IRL) 8:37.23, 8. S Cialella (ITA)
8:37.58, 9. A Carosi
  8:37.58, 10. V Pronin (RUS) 8:41.87

  HJ: 1. A Sokolowski (UKR) 2.24, 2. Y Rybakov (RUS) 2.21,
3. N Leeper
  (USA) 2.21

  TJ: 1. I Gavrilenko (RUS) 16.55, 2. A Glavatski (RUS)
16.41, 3. R
  Chapado (ESP) 16.21, 4. R Nachum (ISR) 16.14

  JT: 1. M Hill (GBR) 82.29, 2. A Kerer 75.65, 3. P
Esenwain (GER) 72.77,
  4. T Reich (USA) 71.64, 5. M Roberson (GBR) 70.16

  Women

  200m (-0.9): 1. B McDonald (JAM) 22.69, 2. J Campbell
(JAM) 23.20, 3.
  M Frazer (JAM) 23.58, 4. D Graglia 24.03, 5. V De Angeli
24.18, 6. M
  Apollinio24.52

  800m: 1. K Holmes (GBR) 2:00.53, 2. J Langat (KEN)
2:01.92, 3. F Dos
  Santos (BRA) 2:01.95, 4. J Varga (HUN) 2:03.17, 5. L
Mikhailova (RUS)
  2:03.95, 6. O Mikaeva (RUS) 2:04.29, 7. E Artuso 2:04.74,
8. J Mitchell
  (GBR) 2:04.74, 9. A Oberstolz 2:05.21

  3000m: 1. E Zadorzhnaja (RUS) 8:51.2, 2. R Brunet 8:53.6,
3. M
  Denboba (ETH) 9:02.5, 4. H Javornik (SLO) 9:03.0, 5. G
Urge (ETH)
  9:10.6, 6. E Fitzgerald (IRL) 9:12.7, 7. S Weissteiner
9:15.8, 8. M Zanatta
  9:19.9, 9. A Balsamo 9:20.8, 10. A Balletta 9:24.9

  400mH: 1. T Tereschuk (UKR) 54.71, 2. T Buford-Bailey
56.10, 3. M
  Niederstatter 56.49, 4. C Scott (JAM) 56.60, 5. L Rocco
57.80

  LJ: 1. Y Shekovtsova (UKR) 6.56, 2. Z Aikler (HUN) 6.34,
3. S Jaklofsky
  (NED) 6.25, 4. J Johnson (GBR) 6.19, 5. T Ter Mesrobian
(RUS) 6.19

  JT: 1. N Szabo (HUN) 58.15, 2. H Rantanen (FIN) 56.79, 3.
C Gigliozzi
  46.50
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t-and-f: good bloke time

[Andre Sammartino]

lengthy profile on four-time Australian Olympic marathon entrant and track
and field team captain Steve Moneghetti... 

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/2901/A40048-2000Aug31.html

"By any measure, his record is impressive in this cruellest of all
track-and-field events. Three previous Olympics. Four Commonwealth Games.
Six world championships. Three marathon victories, in Berlin and Tokyo and
at the 1994 Commonwealth Games in Victoria. Ranked in the world top 20 for
what? 15 years?"

"At times, he admits he hates the marathon. "I think the marathon is a
super-special event," he says. "The greatest feat of human endeavor. Pure.
Despite all this talk about EPO, it's untainted by drugs. Or by technology.
But it's also a bloody awful event. So hard on the body."


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t-and-f: some results from sweden (Greer misses again)

[Andre Sammartino]

 Växjö, Sweden 29 augusti 2000 
http://www.ifkvaxjo.g.se/FOLKSAM/index.htm  
  
 Män 200m  Vind  +-0 
 1  Johan Engberg  81  Finspångs  AIK  21,20 
 2  Mattias  Sunneborn  70  IFK Lidingö  21,39 
 3  Klauus  Haagensen  75  Danmark  22,03 
 4  Johan Hed  80  Mölndals AIK  22,16 
 
Män 400m A  Final 
 1  Jerome Davis  77  USA  45,46 
 2  Jimisola Laursen  77  MAI  46,40 
 3  Magnus Aare  74  Danderyd  Athletics  46,94 
 4  Henrik Dagård  69  KA 2  48,01 
 5  Thomas Byrberg  79  Turebergs FK  48,35 
 6  Martin Theander  77  IFK Lidingö  49,34 
 
Män 400m B  Final 
 1  Klauus  Haagensen  75  Danmark  49,57 
 2  Niclas Hesselgren  81  IK Sisu  49,96 
 
M 800m A  Final 
 1  Rizak Dirshe  72  Hälle IF  1,47,19 
 2  Willy RotichKenya  1,47,35 
 3  Ketil HodnekvamNorge  1,47,47 
 4  Victors Lasic  77  Lettland  1,48,19 
 5  Patrik Johansson  72  Spårvägen  1,48,99 
 6  Fredrik Kjellberg  77  Turebergs FK  1,49,26 
 7  John Laselle  79  Turebergs FK  1,49,67 
 8  Birger Ohlsson  68  Hässelby SK  1,49,76 
 9  Atle Douglas  68  Norge  1,52,20 
   Ozzie MdzinisoSwaziland  Brutit 
 
M 800m B  Final 
 1  Ken Pihlblad  78  IF Göta  1,51,45 
 2  Karl Henrik Felde  78  Norge  1,52,00 
 3  Nicolaj Sörensen  75  Danmark  1,52,24 
 4  Cristoffer  Antonsen  83  Hälle IF  1,53,14 
 5  Niklas Österberg  73  Rånäs 4-H  1,53,47 
 6  Martin Svensson  81  Högby IF  1,53,89 
 7  Mikael Gren  80  Hälle IF  1,55,15 
 8  Jeppe Thomsen  77  Danmark  1,57,96 
   Mikkel  Hjort-Jensen  77  Danmark  Brutit 
   Peter Johansson  75  Brittatorp TK  Brutit 
 
M 800m C  Final 
 1  Peter Marklund  77  Riviera FI  1,54,63 
 2  Sisco Daastrurp  72  Danmark  1,55,05 
 3  Karl Borgö  80  IK Ymer  1,55,78 
 4  Finnur Fenger  82  Hässelby SK  1,56,20 
 5  Roger Svensson  83  Falkenbergs  IK  1,56,22 
 6  Thomas Würtz  82  Hässelby SK  1,57,48 
 7  Jörgen Almqvist  72  IK Sisu  1,59,10 
 8  Niclas Hesselgren  81  IK Sisu  Brutit 
 
M 3000m  Hinder 
 1  Amon Kiproto  Tanui  75  Kenya  8,34,56 
 2  Martin Alksnis  75  Lettland  8,35,23 
 3  Moses Kigen  79  Kenya  8,37,34 
 4  Henrik Skoog  79  Villstad GIF  8,37,60 
 5  Erik Emilsson  82  MAI  9,00,81 
 6  Joakim  Johansson  76  Hälle IF  9,03,49 
 7  Per Jacobsen  77  IF Göta  9,04,32 
 8  Jari Ikäheimonen  72  Hälle IF  9,09,45 
 9  Jan Amnéus  79  Väsby IK  9,13,60 
 10  Johan Olehäll  79  Hälle IF  9,20,85 
 11  Ulf Nilsson  81  Hälle IF  9,34,48 
   Johnny Jönsson  73  MAI  Brutit 
 
M Stav (pole Vault?)
 1  Martin Voss  67  Danmark  536 
 2  Viktor von  Bothmer  78  Ullevi FK  516 
 3  Alhaji Jeng  81  Örgryte IS  516 
 4  Henrik Hallenbo  78  Lerum FI  516 
   Patrik  Kristiansson  77  Örgryte IS  ej res 
   Oscar Janson  75  Ullevi FK  ej res 
 
M Tresteg  Vind (TJ?)
1  Christian Olsson  80  Örgryte IS  1636  +-0   
2  Jesper Riege  67  Danmark  1526  -1,4 
3  Conny Malm  75  Ullevi FK  1523  +-0  

M Slägga (Hammer?)
 1  Gilles Dupray  70  Frankrike  7527 
 2  Bengt Johansson  73  Turebergs FK  7440 
 3  Nicolas Figere  79  Frankrike  7335 
 4  Per Karlsson  67  IFK Växjö  7045 
 5  Stellan Kjellander  78  Vittsjö GIK  5875 
 
M Spjut (Jav?)
 1  Breaux Greer  76  USA  7916 
 2  Daniel  Ragnvaldsson  76  IFK  Strömsund  7055 
 3  Mikael Snällfot  80  Nedre  Soppero IK  6944 
 4  Andreas Wulff  80  IFK Växjö  6810 
 5  Bengt Loo  62  UF Contact  6052 
 6  Mattias Voss  79  IFK Växjö  5946 
 7  Pär Wisme  72  IFK Växjö  5845 
 8  Henrik  Hjalmarsson  81  IF Hagen  5686 
  
 K 100m  Vind  +-0 
 1  Christine  Bloomfield  68  England  11,60 
 1  Annika Amundin  77  Ullevi FK  11,85 
 2  Jenny Kallur  81  Falu IK  11,97 
 3  Malin Källgren  80  IK Ymer  12,06 
 4  Veronica  Fransson  79  Hälle IF  12,06 
 5  Carolina Klüft  83  IFK Växjö  12,19 
 6  Linda Hansson  75  MAI  12,37 
 
K 800m 
 1  Jo Fenn  74  England  2,05,54 
 2  Therese Ahlepil  76  Rånäs 4-H  2,05,90 
 3  Carolina Nylén  79  Fredrikshofs  FIF  2,07,02 
 4  Lisbeth Pedersen  75  Norge  2,07,06 
 5  Cecilia Hansson  72  Hässelby SK  2,07,16 
 6  Hanna Karlsson  79  MAI  2,08,36 
 7  Linda Olsson  81  Falu IK  2,09,59 
 8  Caroline Hjelm  76  Hälle IF  2,09,74 
 9  Maria Åhr  80  Danderyd  Athletics  2,11,48 
 10  Camilla Nyqvist  79  IK Ymer  2,14,74 
 11  Johanna Nilsson  83  Högby IF  2,15,60 
 
K 5000m 
 1  Bente Landöy  73  Norge  15,54,35 
 2  Linda Sjöström  78  Falu IK  16,16,05 
 3  Veslemöy  Hausken  72  Norge  16,37,17 
 4  Ida Nilsson  81  Högby IF  17,27,58 
  
 K 100m  Häck  Vind  +-0 (Hurdles?)
 1  Julie Pratt  79  England  13,69 
 2  Carolina Klüft  83  IFK Växjö  14,20 
 3  Jaanika MartiküllEstland  14,39 
 4  Lina Ericsson  76  IFK Växjö  14,97 
   Rachel King  76  England  brutit 
 
K 400m  Häck 
 1  Frida Svensson  70  Mölndals AIK  57,64 
 2  Erica Mårtensson  79  IFK Växjö  58,82 
 3  Lena Melin  72  Ullevi FK  59,52 
 
K Höjd (HJ?)
 1  Kajsa Bergqvist  76  Turebergs FK  194 
 2  Vita Palamar  77  Ukraina  191 
 3  Tetyana  Nikolayeva  76  Ukraina  185 
 4  Jo Jennings  69  England  180 
 5

t-and-f: Ottey 10.99 in Greece, Lamela & Jayasinghe back

[Andre Sammartino]

IAAF Permit Meeting, 30 Aug 2000, Thessaloniki, Greece 

MEN 

100 m. 
10''29. Denis Mitchel (USA); 10''32 Donovan Bailey (CAN); 10''36. Coby
Miller (USA); 10''40. Davis Patros (FRA); 10''57. Aninos Markoulidis (CYP);
10''63. Roland Nemeth (HUN) 

200 m. 
20" 55. Cobby Miller (USA); 20" 72. Denis Mitchell (USA); 20" 96. Alexios
Alexopoulos (GRE); 21" 17. Anastassios Goussis (GRE); 21" 74.
Roshan Griffin (USA); 21" 83. Georgios Assariotakis (GRE). 
Race 2. 
20" 81. Ramas Urbas (POL); 20" 83. Anninos Markoulidis (CYP); 20" 88.
Patrick Van Balkom (NED) 

400 m. 
46" 08. Ibrahim Kwade (FRA); 46" 73. Georgios Economidis (GRE); 46" 74.
Stylianos Dimotsios (GRE) 

800 m. 
1' 44" 45. Ali Hecini (ALG) 

400 m. hurdles. 
49''03. Samuel Matete (ZAM); 49''35. Periklis Iakovakis (GRE) pb.; 49''94.
Eric Thomas (USA); 50''24. Kemel Thompson (JAM);
51''02. Calvin Davis (USA) 

3.000 m. steeple. 
8'37''48. Abrahan Cherono (KEN); 8'37"60. K. Kosgei (KEN); 8'39"07. L.Walle
(ETH) 

High Jump. 
2, 32 m. Mark Boswell CAN); 2, 30 m. Lambros Papakostas (GRE); 2, 23 m.
Kwaku Boateg; 2, 15 Constantinos Liapis; 2, 15 m.
Dimitrios Tomaras; 2, 15 m. Dimitrios Syrakos, DNM Antony Inteata (NGR) 

Long Jump. 
8, 22 m. Yago lamela (ESP); 8, 17 m. Yonus Mudrik (MAR); 8, 13 m. Carlos
Calado (POR); 8, 11 m. James Beckford (JAM); 8, 09 m.
Constantinos Koukodimos (GRE); 8, 00 m. Dimitrios Serelis (GRE); 7, 98 m.
Gregor Cancar; 7, 96 m. Stergios Noussios (GRE) pb. 

Hammer Throw  
80,21 m. Oli-Pekka Karjalainen (FIN); 79, 81 m. Alexandros Papadimitriou;
79, 12 m. Szymon Ziolkowski (POL), 78, 87 m.
Christos Polychroniou, 78, 06 m. Vladimir Maska (CZE); 77, 73 m. Heins Weis
(GER); 69, 33 m. Nikolaos Gentekos (GRE) 

Shot Put. 
19, 31 m. Vaios Tigas (GRE); 18, 38 m. Andreas Anastassopoulos (GRE); 18,
13 m. Christos Sarakoglou (GRE) 

WOMEN 

100 m. (-0.6 m/s) 
10''99. Marleen Ottey (JAM); 11"03. Sevatheda Fynes; 11" 21. Christy Gaines
. 11" 76. Panayota Koutrouli; 11" 76. Paraskevi
Patoulidou 

200 m. (-1 m/s). 
22"55. Susanthika Jayasinghe (SRI); 23" 19. Donne Fraser (GBR); 23" 21.
Ekaterini Koffa (GRE); 23" 73. Chryssoula Goudenoudi
(GRE) 

400 m. 
51" 53. Ebun Olabisi Afolabi (NGR); 51" 76. Monique Hennagan (USA); 52" 12.
Karen Shinkins (IRL) 

1.500 m. 
4' 11" 66. Olga Kuznetsova (RUS) 

400 m. hurdles 
54"52. Nesha Bidouane (MAR); 54"71. Sandra Cummings Glover (USA); 55¨68.
Urlike Urbansky (GER); 55''91. Heike Meissner
(GER); 56''76. Susan Smith (IRL); 57''38. Judit Szekeres (HUN) 

Pole Vault. 
4, 40 m. Nicole Humbert Rieger (GER); 4, 30 m. Mary Sauer (USA); 4, 20 m.
Monique De Wilt (NED); 4, 20 m. Pavla Hamackova
(CZE); 4, 10 m. Doris Auer (AUT); 4, 00 m. Thaleia Iakovidou; 4, 00 m.
Georgia Tsiliggiri 

Long Jump. 
6, 70 m. Niurka Montalvo (ESP); 6, 64 m. Niki Xanthou; 6, 60 m. Lisuta Cuza
(CUB); 6, 55 m. Valentina Gotovska (LAT) 

Triple Jump. 14, 79 m. 
Tereza Marinova (BUL), 14, 62 m. Anja Valant (SLO); 14, 22 m. Christina
Nikolau (ROM); 14, 05 m. Dimitra Markou (GRE)
pb.; 13, 82 m. Baya Rahouli (ALG); 12, 77 m. Chryssopigi Devetzi (GRE) 

Discus Throw. 
65,98 m. Natalya Sadova (RUS); 63, 66 m. Ekaterini Voggoli (GRE); 63, 64 m.
Nicoletta Grasu (ROM); Stella Tsikouna 63, 30 m. 


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t-and-f: Oops

[Andre Sammartino]

oops, should sayThessaloniki results from
http://www.eexi.gr/athletix/Salonika2000.html 


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RE: t-and-f: Talking tough

[Andre Sammartino]

Jai's a bit "out there" generally, and it is fair to say, he takes
liberties even with Australian-English...

Even as a native-speaker, i can only hazard a guess and suggest he means
they are babies... or that they tend to spill their beers (a much bigger
insult downunder)...

Look out for "Jumping Jai" at the Games (if the event/sport gets any
coverage up there).  He's a very extroverted character, tattoos aplenty,
long hair, smokes like a chimney. At the recent trials he opening with a
terrible 7.80m or so jump (25 and a half feet?) but jumped around as if
he'd broken the world record... asked why... he said he just wanted to wake
up the crowd...   


>> In a message dated 8/29/00 17:43:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> writes:
>>
>> << "They only jump big in America, and these guys, these three guys, are a
>> bunch of dribblers, that's all I'm saying. >>
>>
>> i give up, what's a dribbler? Malmo, where's that Excel Strine-to-English
>> conversion chart? :-)
>>
>> gh

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t-and-f: Talking tough

[Andre Sammartino]

Australian long-jumper Jai Taurima (4th Seville) has been doing his own
trash-talking of late:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/sport/moreSport/2000/08/item2830100356_1.htm

Taurima talks tough ahead of Olympic long jump 

If confidence means anything, Australia will win a gold medal in the long
jump at the Sydney Olympics.

Commonwealth Games gold medallist Peter Burge and Australian record holder
Jai Taurima head the charge in an event not usually noted for its depth of
challenge.

Taurima believes, in the cooler conditions in Sydney, the Russians
represent more of a threat to Australia, winning gold, than the Americans.

"I think the Russians are the ones who are going to be the scare factor,"
he said.

"Americans are Americans aren't they?

"They only jump big in America, and these guys, these three guys, are a
bunch of dribblers, that's all I'm saying.


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