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2005-09-13 Thread ALLEN GILMAN






India's marathon boy, aged three 







By Sandeep Sahu BBC News, Bhubaneswar 





Coach Das says Budhia could be a Guinness World Record holderHe runs seven hours at a stretch, sometimes as much as 48km (30 miles). On a daily basis.
And Budhia Singh is just three and a half years old.
When Budhia's father died a year ago, his mother, who washes dishes in Bhubaneswar, capital of the eastern Indian state of Orissa, was unable to provide for her four children.
She sold Budhia to a man for 800 rupees ($20).
But the young boy came to the attention of Biranchi Das, a judo coach and the secretary of the local judo association.
Mr Das said he noticed Budhia's talent when scolding him for being a bully.
"Once, after he had done some mischief, I asked him to keep running till I came back," Mr Das told the BBC.
"I got busy in some work. When I came back after five hours, I was stunned to find him still running."

Siesta
Mr Das, also the president of the residents' association of the run-down area where Budhia used to live, summoned the man who had bought Budhia and paid him his 800 rupees back.
Then started a strict diet and exercise regimen that saw Budhia adding a few kilometres to his daily marathon every few days.







A few stretching exercises for the marathon boy
In place of a few lumps of rice that he used to get at his mother's place, he now has a diet of eggs, milk, soybean and meat.
He starts running at 0500 each day and does not stop till noon.
After a few stretching exercises, he has lunch and goes for a siesta.
At 1600 it is time to run again.
Budhia is enjoying his stay at the judo hostel. "I can run and eat to my heart's content here," he says.

His speech is not yet easy to understand. Though he has yet to go to school, he has completed learning the alphabet of Oriya, the local language.

Budhia's coach has now set his eyes on a place in the Guinness Book of World Records.
That, he says, will be possible when he can run for 90km at a stretch.
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2005-04-09 Thread ALLEN GILMAN
 Subject: Checklist   After every flight, Quantas pilots fill out a form, called a  "gripe  sheet," which tells mechanics about problems with the  aircraft.  The mechanics correct the problems, document their repairs  on the form,   then pilots review the gripe sheets before the next  flight.  Never let it be said that ground crews lack a sense of  humor. Here are  some actual maintenance complaints submitted by Quantas'  pilots  the  mechanics responses:   (By the way, Quantas is the only major airline that has  never had an  accident.) (P= The problem logged by the pilot.)  (S= The solution and action taken by mechanics.)  
   P: Left inside main tire almost needs replacement.  S: Almost replaced left inside main tire.    P: Test flight OK, except auto-land very rough.  S: Auto-land not installed on this aircraft.    P: Something loose in cockpit.  S: Something tightened in cockpit.    P: Dead bugs on windshield.  S: Live bugs on back-order.    P: Autopilot in altitude-hold mode produces a 200 feet per  minute  descent.  S: Cannot reproduce problem on ground.    P: Evidence of leak on right main landing gear.  S: Evidence removed.  
  P: DME volume unbelievably loud.  S: DME volume set to more believable level.    P: Friction locks cause throttle levers to stick.  S: That's what they're for.    P: IFF inoperative.  S: IFF always inoperative in OFF mode.    P: Suspected crack in windshield.  S: Suspect you're right.    P: Number 3 engine missing.  S: Engine found on right wing after brief search.    P: Aircraft handles funny. (I love this one!)  S: Aircraft warned to straighten up, fly right,  be  serious.  
  P: Target radar hums.  S: Reprogrammed target radar with lyrics.    P: Mouse in cockpit.  S: Cat installed.    P: Noise coming from under instrument panel. Sounds like a  midget  pounding on something with a hammer.  S: Took hammer away from midget Get the NEW version of MSN Messenger - it's FREE! 



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2004-06-15 Thread Ricky Quintana
Adidas Outdoor Championships
By Ricky Quintana
Raleigh, NC- The girls’ sprints will provide plenty of entertainment as 
athletes vie for the national high school championship title at the adidas 
Outdoor Championships at Paul Derr Track on the North Carolina State 
University campus June 18 and 19th.
Here’s an event by event preview of each of the sprint races.

100m Dash
“ Alex the Great” and “Speedy” will be the headliners for what promises to 
be a meet record-threatening race. Three of the top four nationally ranked 
100m sprinters will be on hand to earn the coveted national championship 
ring given to all the adidas Outdoor Champions.
World Junior 400m record holder, Texas and Olympic team favorite, Sanya 
Richards(St. Thomas Aquinas, Ft. Lauderdale, FL)  set the record of 11.39 in 
2002.

Here’s a listing of the top competitors.
Alexandria Anderson( Morgan Park, Chicago, IL) got her moniker after 
splendid quadruple performance at the Illinois Class 2A state championships. 
There she recorded wins in the in the 100m, 11.41, a 24.11 in the 200m, a 
53.13 in the 400m, and finished runner-up in the long jump, 19 feet 11 
inches. In all, the junior has collected 9 state championships and two 
runner-ups. She will be focusing on just two events here, the 100m and the 
200m. She has bests of 11.14 and 23.74 in those two events.
Ranking: US#3tie

Shalonda Solomon (Poly, Long Beach, CA) will be looking for that elusive 
individual title that escaped her at the California state championships last 
weekend. Hard sprinting “Speedy” has a best of 11.41 this season and a best 
of 11.35. She will have no relay chores at the AOC which should improve her 
prospects drastically. This will also be the first appearance at AOC for the 
coast hopping Solomon.
College Choice: University of South Carolina
Ranking: US #3 tie

Cleo Tyson(Huntsville, TX) has finished second in each of her two past 
championship races. She was runner-up at the TX 5A state meet to Krystin 
Lacy(Skyline, Dallas, TX) and runner-up to national leading Ashley Owens( 
Liberty, Colorado Springs, CO) at the Great Southwest Championships in 
Albuquerque, NM June 5. The University of Tennessee signee will try and 
reverse that trend at AOC.
Ranking: US #5
2003 AOC Finish: 4th

Courtney Champion( Collins Hill, Suwanee, GA) won her fourth straight 
championship in the 200m at the GA State championships. This despite a 
hamstring and groin injuries that plagued her in the early part of the 
season. She also won the 100m in a quick 11.53. In all, she collected 6 
individual titles in her career and just missed completing the 100m/200m 4 
time double sweep after placing 2nd in the 100m her freshman and sophomore 
years.
College Choice: University of Tennessee

Girls 200m
Almost an identical line-up as the 100m, but with some added spice. The only 
missing entrant from last year’s final is the winner, Shana Cox. The meet 
record is 23.03, again held by Sanya Richards. This surely will be 
threatened as three of the top five nationally ranked runners are entered.

Shalonda Solomon( Poly, Long Beach, CA) enters with the best time after her 
sizzling 22.92 runner-up at the California State Championships. It was an 
improvement over last year’s time by a scant 0.01.
Rank US #2

Cleo Tyson (Huntsville, TX) sped to an all time best of 23.36 behind Ashley 
Owens at the Great Southwest Classis June 5. At the Texas 4A state meet she 
won both the 100m and 200m titles in scorching times, 11.51 and 23.41(which 
broke an 8 year old state record). It was the second year in a row that she 
completed the trick.
Tyson earned the bronze medal at the World Youth Championships last summer 
in Sherbrooke, Canada.
Ranking US # 4
2003 AOC : 3rd

Alexandria Anderson( Morgan Park,Chicago, IL) best in the 200m, 23.48, was 
set last summer at the USATF Junior Olympics in hot Miami. Her best 
FAT(Fully automatic time) this season, 24.11, was set while competing in 4 
events.
With less events to compete in, she should improve on last year’s 6th place 
AOC finish.

Krystin Lacy(Skyline , Dallas, TX) won the Texas state championship with a 
sizzling 23.45. It was the third state individual title for the junior in 
sprint deep Texas. The 200m will be the only individual event Lacy will run 
at AOC which should make a difference for last year’s 5th placer.

Courtney Champion (Collins Hill, Suwanee, GA) earned her 4th straight title 
in the 200m running 23.84. Last year’s AOC runner-up has improved to 23.44 
this season, a .09 improvement. Champion earned the silver medal at the 
World Youth Championships last summer in Sherbrooke, Canada.

Bianca Knight( Ridgeland, Pearl, MS) claimed her 8th individual state titles 
by posting an  impressive 11.56, 23.98, and 55.63 for her new school, 
Ridgeland and helped them win the Mississippi 4A state team championship. 
After a long layoff, Knight, only a freshman, posted a 3rd place finish in 
the 100m, 11.82 and a  2nd place finish in the 400m, 

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2002-12-31 Thread shabibi
This article was in the 12/29 Washington Times

Time trial marks Alan Webb's first race 
By Steve Nearman

  

Alan Webb ran his first track race as a professional yesterday at the Prince
George's Sports  Learning Complex in Landover. Top Stories 
 To be fair, it was a low-key time trial, an exhibition 1,000-meter race
set in the middle of a high school invitational.
 This is the first time I have put spikes on since the NCAAs [in
June], said the rusty Webb, after finishing his event at the two-day Metro
Run  Walk Holiday Invitational. Not bad, but I was really hoping for a
PR.
 It was close, but Webb looked like a guy who hasn't been doing much
speed work, a fact that he and his coach Scott Raczko confirmed.
 We just wanted to get a time trial before altitude, said Raczko, who
has worked for Metro Run  Walk for the past few years. We're leaving for
Albuquerque tomorrow for 3½ weeks.
 Webb lined up on the fast 200-meter track with former South Lakes High
(Reston, Va.) teammate and designated rabbit Richard Smith while Raczko
paced the infield. It was just the two of them, but it represented two of
America's greatest middle-distance prospects.
 At 2:15 p.m., the gun sounded and Smith and Webb dashed off. Smith took
Webb through a relaxed opening 200 meters in 29.16, then they went to work,
cruising through 400 meters in 57.67.
 Unfortunately, the fieldhouse full of prep runners did not recognize
history's greatest high school miler, so the cheering and vocal
encouragement was limited mostly to the South Lakes fans.
 Smith bolted away from Webb after 500 meters, then dropped out as Webb
passed 600 in 1:25.41. He ran solo to the finish, passing 800 in 1:54.40 and
finishing in 2:23.88.
 His PR, which he set last year as the high school national record, is
2:23.68. To put the accomplishment into perspective, the American indoor
record is 2:17.85, while the world mark is 2:14.96.
 Webb signed a multi-year contract with Nike some six months ago,
securing his future to train for the 2004 and 2008 Olympics.
 I was eager to get in a race, but I was disappointed that I couldn't
go any faster in the last 60 meters, said Webb, adding that we wanted to
keep this meet low-key so nobody knew about it. But by summertime, I want to
be in shape to run with the best in the world.
 He said his first big meet would be the U.S. Nationals in June. Then
Webb was quickly off to warm down outside.
 There was evidence, however, that Webb had passed through town: the
tell-tale sign was the number of Nike backpacks toted around the indoor
track facility by prep hopefuls that had Alan Webb signatures on them.




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2002-12-31 Thread Jorma Kurry
Of course, unless The Times means last year as in nearly 24 months ago,
then he set the record while a freshman in college. I assume they mean early
2001, which could more accurately be called 2 years ago at this point.

- Original Message -
  His PR, which he set last year as the high school national record, is
 2:23.68.




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2002-12-23 Thread Mascali416
 



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2002-12-16 Thread ALLEN GILMAN
From Ultra Digest December 13-14

Gabe Jennings, the Aquarian wacko Olympic miler, has flaunted Stanford'spolicies and been arrested. I was running near the hills one day when Iheard someone taunting one of the rent-a-cops: "Yeah! Yeah! Go chasethat guy! (Meaning me.) Arrest him! Arrest him!" It was Gabe. (BTW,Gabe's Stanford email is [EMAIL PROTECTED]: "desnuda" means "nakedlady.") I like Gabe.MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. Get 2 months FREE*.


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2002-04-21 Thread Cedric Walker




LSU Team Invitational

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2002-03-07 Thread George McWilliams

Sideshow wrote:
Why don't they just let each athlete run alone in lane 5 so it can be 
perfectly
fair for everyone? Of course, who would want to watch this?

Maybe the folks who watch luge, bobsled, downhill, slalom, giant slalom, 
etc.

Actually, while watching that stuff from SLC, I wondered if anyone keeps 
lists of the fastest solo efforts for the 400, 800, 1500, mile. I'm 
remembering (through the glass darkly) from Tom Jordan's book that Pre ran a 
fast solo mile.

Regards,
George McWilliams


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2002-01-09 Thread Dan Kaplan

I don't know what the answer to this question is (my gut feeling is it
should count), but I must object to Ed's analogy below.  Hardly the same
thing -- the original question refers to the same school, just before it
had the league categorization, while the response is two different schools
(which obviously circumvents the league aspect of the question).

Dan

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  Should a mark set by someone from a league member school prior to the
 formal organization of the league be considered the league record?
  My gut feeling is no, therefore giving rise to the possibility that a
 school  record could be better than the league mark (which is not a
 problem). This is  more to determine what the existing league record was
 (and by extension whether it was broken in a meet last weekend)
 
 Much easier than the four minute mile question (although poring through
 an old TF News issue is very enjoyable) - of course not.  A league is
an
 entity that din't exist when the mark was set.  If an 8th grader in a
 middle
 school runs 4:15 for the mile, and didn't get faster when he got to high
 school, the high school wouldn't consider that the school record.  It's
 the same thing.
 
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Hello all,
Most people I talked to these days do not have much sports on their
minds - and what else can you expect. Most mailings lists I know have
been keeping pretty much silent in the knowledge most things are too
trivial to report or discuss compared to what fellow athletes and sports
lovers are going through in the United States. Thoughts and prayers are
with them, as you can see below also those of the IAAF and their
president, Lamine Diack.
Courtesy IAAF Media Department,
Wilmar Kortleever
PS this was send way earlier, I just hadn't gotten around to forwarding
it.


IAAF CONDEMNS TERRORIST ATTACKS ON USA
12 September 2001
Transcript of a letter sent to President George Bush by IAAF President
Lamine Diack

Dear President,
On behalf of the International Association of International Athletics
Federations - which has 210 members in every corner of the world - I
would like to send our most sincere condolences at the shocking and evil
attacks on US soil yesterday.
Our sport of track and field athletics is based on the principle of
friendly and peaceful competition and tolerates no discrimination based
on sex, or race or religion. Cold hearted, brutal terrorism is an
affront to all civilised behaviour and cannot be tolerated.
Our prayers are with the victims and their loved ones and we hope that
your great nation will find the strength, and faith, to recover from
this blow.
Yours sincerely,
Lamine Diack
President of the International Association of Athletics Federations



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2001-08-28 Thread Michael Cunningham

Neosho County Community College will be looking for a head track and 
field/cc coach immediately.

I have accepted the women's asst. coaching position at Ball State 
University.

Please fax your resumes to me at 620-431-0387.  I will be here until Sunday.

Please check out the website to see the excellent athletes you will be 
working with.

www.neosho.cc.ks.us/athletic/track/track.htm


Yours in track,



Mike Cunningham
Asst. Track Coach (Hurdles/sprints/jumps)
Ball State University


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2001-07-28 Thread John Radspinner

Am I reading this correctly?

  Cuban team
  Men (13)
  100m: Freddy Mayola
  110m hurdles: Anier Garcia, Yoel Hernandez y Yuniel Hernandez (*)
  High jump: Javier Sotomayor
  Long jump: Ivan Pedroso y Luis F. Meliz
  Triple jump: Yoel Garcia
  Javelin throw: Emeterio Gonzalez
  4x100m relay: Freddy Mayola, Juan A. Pita, Jose A. Cesar, Luis A. 
Perez, Ivan Garcia

  Women (12)
  800m: Zulia Calayatud
  100m hurdles: Yahumara Neyra (*)
  400m hurdles: Daimi Pernia
  Shot put: Yumileidi Cumba
  Hammer throw: Yipsi Moreno
  Javelin throw: Osleidis Menendez, Xiomara Rivero, Sonia Bisset
  20km walk: Oslaidis Cruz (*)
  4x400m relay: Daimi Pernia, Zulia Calayatud, Julia Duporty, Yudalis 
Diaz, Libania Grenot

  (*) - reserves

Specifically, why isn't Magdelin Martinez listed in the Triple Jump? 
She set a new PR at the Crystal Palace Meet in London of 14.53.

John Radspinner
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2001-07-26 Thread Kebba Tolbert


One of the people I was supposed to room with ended up backing at today. So 
instead of a three people sharing costs (two beds and a couch) we have now 
only have two. If you (or someone you know) is interested please let me 
know. The total cost for the room August 2-13th is $882  (US) -- so 294 
apiece if there's 3 people. We are staying at the Argyll Plaza Hotel.

Here's a description of the hotel from the Edmonton 2001 website:

A 4-storey hotel conveniently located on Edmonton's southside.  
Approximately 10 minutes  from downtown Edmonton.  Facilities include: 
Kitchenettes (limited number), complimentary continental breakfast, fresh 
coffee in the lobby 24 hours/day, dining room, lounge, nightclub, whirlpool 
and sauna.  Attached shopping plaza with a
family restaurant, fast food restaurants, ice arena, salon and day spa.

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2001-07-23 Thread Keith Conning

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Message: Sac State hosts stars of future
For some, this week's Junior Olympics meet might serve as a prelude to the 2004 Games.





Sac State hosts stars of future: For some, this week's Junior Olympics meet might 
serve as a prelude to the 2004 Games. 
By David Carrillo
Bee Staff Writer
(Published July 23, 2001)

Julene Bailey is only 16, but her seventh-place showing at the youth version of the 
Olympic Games this month has led some Idahoans to consider harvesting a new crop 
alongside potatoes next year  --  vaulting poles.




  It's amazing to hear how many people in Idaho want to start picking up these 
sticks, said Bailey, who vaulted 12 feet, 5 1/2 inches for Team USA at the World 
Youth Championships meet in Debrecen, Hungary.

  I can't imagine what the buzz is going to be in Idaho if I make the 2004 Olympic 
Games.

  For now, Bailey is among more than 6,000 athletes who have their sights on the 35th 
USA Track  Field National Junior Olympics, which run Thursday through Sunday at 
Sacramento State.

  The Hornet Stadium oval was the site last summer for the U.S. Olympic Trials in 
track and field. And the Junior Olympics have been a launching pad for some of 
America's top athletes.


You can see the remainder of this story at: 
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2001-05-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ken,

I accompanied my father in 2 marathons when I was 8.  It was around 1969 - 70 and I 
finished one in somewhere around 5 hours.  I don't recall having any long-term 
problems but then again I did it with my father and it was more like a running picnic. 
 I recall that afterward I never wanted to run one again and to this day I haven't.  
I'm definitely not going to let my son attempt one if he was so inclined.  As far as 
younger people running marathons I would say that there is a huge difference between 
running one just to finish and racing one.  Frank Shorter once said that anyone can 
finish a marathon but only a few can race one, personally I think he saw Oprah coming. 
Racing a marathon and more importantly, putting in the training effort to do so, would 
not be something that I would recommend for anybody until they're are physically 
mature.  

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2001-04-20 Thread Charles F Wandler


-- Forwarded message --
From: "Ed Grant" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "track net" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Donohue at Penn
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:20:00 -0700

Netters:
Erin Donohu,e who had been expected to anchor a Haddonfield team =
which would have been among the DMR favorites at Penn this year, will be =
running the individual mile instead. The reason is that Haddonfild's No. =
2 runner, Holly Cosnett, who had the team in 2nd place after the =
eopening 1200M leg last year, is nursing a stress fracture.

The change also cancels out Erin's plans to compete in the =
javelin as Penn limited individual athletes to oine event apiece. As a =
relay runner, she would have been eligible for the spear-chucking event.

Another potential NJ DMR contender in the girls' race, Red Bank, =
will probably be running, but with a slight handicap as Katie Kingsbery, =
who ran the 800 leg indoors in a narrow loss to Boys and Girls at the =
Easterns, will not be eligible until a few days after Penn due to NJ's =
stringent transfer rule which assesses a 30-day penalty in any season in =
which an athlete won a letter the previous year at his/her former =
school. However, she is a junior and the Trotter twins, due to run the =
two long legs at penn, are sophs, so look out next year.
=
ED Grant




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2001-03-29 Thread Keith Conning

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Message: Triple jumper Sheila Hudson writes about her training.





One More Season: Long hours in training also can be lonely ones 
By Sheila Hudson
Bee Staff Writer
(Published March 29, 2001)

As the sun pierced drifting clouds onto scattered spectators, a meet announcer's voice 
bellowed over loudspeakers, and the aroma of Ben-Gay wafted in the mild spring breeze 
that swirled about Hughes Stadium. Nearly 1,000 athletes turned out to compete in the 
Panther Invitational last Saturday.




  It was a good, old-fashioned track meet  --  the perfect remedy for my preseason 
funk  --  and I was thrilled to be among the competitors. But then, competing 
alongside other athletes has always had that effect on me. Particularly since I've 
been a professional track athlete.

  Why?

  Well, to put it plainly, day-to-day training for a pro track athlete can get rather 
lonely at times. Actually, downright solitary. Particularly when you're in an event as 
technical as the triple jump. Believe it or not, there just aren't that many people 
out there interested in performing a hop, step and jump into a sand pit better than 
most in the world.

  Go figure.


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2001-03-28 Thread Keith Conning

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Message: Story about Sac State track program



Freshman sprinter-jumper Shanita Bryant is the type of athlete coach Joe Neff, right, 
hopes to attract to Sac State. Bee/Anne Chadwick Williams



Sac State wants a run of success: Track program looks to build off Olympic Trials
By Quwan Spears
Bee Staff Writer
(Published March 28, 2001)

The success of the U.S. Olympic Track and Field Trials here last summer, and the NCAA 
Championships in 2003 and the Trials again in 2004, has helped Sacramento shed its 
image as a rest stop along the way to more prestigious track and field events.




  Now, Sacramento State wants to better its image in the sport.

  In an effort to bolster its program, the university wants to add nearly $80,000 to 
the team's budget for four assistant coaches, two additional scholarships, supplies, 
recruiting and travel. The money, as yet unauthorized, would come from several state 
funding sources.

  With increased funding, Hornets coach Joe Neff says the track program would finally 
have all the ingredients to rise to prominence.

  "We have a combination of good things going for us," Neff said. "We have one of the 
best facilities in the world. Our funding has improved. Plus, we've got tremendous 
exposure from the Trials."


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2001-02-07 Thread WMurphy25

2001 Indoors
ECAC and NCAA Div.I (auto and provisional) qualifying standards are listed 
with each event. The first NCAA marks are for  banked or oversized* tracks. 
Standards for flat tracks are also listed.  
55(7.23,6.80,6.94)  
6.88*   Nolle   Graham  SetonHall
7.00Kisha   Ricks   Norfolk St
7.12*   JillCroft   UMass/Low
7.13*   LeQuillaPageMorgan St
7.16-   Stacy   Clarke  Cent.Conn.
7.17*** ToniJefferson   Maryland
7.17PantheraSeymour Liberty
7.18*   Breanna LevarityDelawareSt
7.19**  Rashida Twiggs  Maryland
7.20*** Monica  HargroveGeorgetown
7.21-   Nickay  Penado  Georgetown
7.22Kim Jones   Wheaton
7.23-   Regan   Coffey  Vermont
7.23**  Ebony   JackNortheastern
Hand-Timed(6.9) 
6.9 **  StefanieAllen   Manhattan

60m(7.73,7.30,7.44) 
7.38-   StaciannBrown’  West Va/JAM
7.40*   Nolle   Graham  Seton Hall
7.41  Graham
7.47-   Toyin   AugustusPenn St
7.47*** Connie  Moore   Penn State
7.50  Graham
7.51*   RhondaleJones   Lincoln
7.53-   Tasha   Peart   Pittsburgh
7.57-   Rasheca Barrow  E.Carolina
7.61**  KiameshaOteyVirginia
7.62Rashida Twiggs  Maryland
7.63*   Alison  Culley  Syracuse
7.66Daniele BrowningEssex CC-NJ
7.66-   Nikiya  ReidNortheastrn
7.67*   Allison Culley  Syracuse
7.69Laurie  Fox Penn State
7.70DanielleBrowningEssex CC(NJ)
7.70**  Tiehise Shell   St.John’s
7.71Phakiso Collins Howard
7.71-   Brenda  Taylor  Harvard
7.71Brenda  Tyler   Harvard
7.72**  KatyJoy Cornell

200(25.34,23.50,24.05)
NC-Flat(23.70,24.25)
23.88   *** Consuella   Moore   Penn State
23.88   Connie  Moore   Penn State
24.04   *   Nolle   Graham’ Seton Hall/JAM
24.11 Graham
24.30   -   StaciannBrown’  West Va/JAM
24.33   *   MeraBelisle Pittsburgh
24.44   -   Brenda  Taylor  Harvard
24.44   Brenda  Tyler   Harvard
24.47   -   Rasheca Barrow  E.Carolina
24.57   -   Tasha   Peart   Pittsburgh
24.70   -   Laila   Brock   Penn St.
24.77   **  Tia Burley  Maryland
24.78   *   Nicole  Corsey  St.John’s
24.87   *   Amber   Plowden Indiana/Pa
24.90   **  KatyJay Penn State
24.93   -   AriaBrown   Temple
24.93   *   Tia TabbPittsburgh
24.99   **  Tiehese Shell   St.John’s
25.03   -   Shontee Bryant  Seton Hall
25.04   *   Damali  Hay VirginiaTech
25.04   *** Kim Morgan  George Mason
25.06   -   Toyin   AugustusPenn St
25.08   SkyeJay Cornell
25.09   **  KiameshaOteyVirginia
25.09   *   JillCroft   UMassLowell
25.10   -   Sasha   Spencer Georgetown
25.15   *** Andrea  Bliss’  Essex CC(NJ)/JAM
25.16   JudyWilliamsSt.John’s
25.18   ShandriaBrown   Essex CC-NJ
25.22   *   Allison Culley  Syracuse
25.25   GillianaFlemmings   EssexCC-NJ
25.25   -   OrinthiaJones   Md.Balt.Co.
25.27   *   Carrielle   Doe Virginia
25.29   *** ToriJefferson   Maryland
25.32   Natalie RandolphVirginia
Oversize Track  
25.0-   Nickay  Penado  Georgetown
Open(24.20) 
23.73   JenniferWilson  Shore A.C.
24.22   Tasha   Downing unattached

400(57.24,53.20,54.70)
NC-Flat(53.50,55.00)
54.61   -   Sasha   Spencer Georgetown
54.80   -   Brenda  Taylor  Harvard
55.06   **  Tia Burley  Maryland
55.13   *   MeraBelisle Pittsburgh
55.18   -   Tasha   Peart   Pitt/JAM
55.20   *   Nicole  Corsey  St.John’s
55.22   -   Nickay  Penado  Georgetown
55.53   *   Tia TabbPittsburgh
55.88   -   Laila   Brock   Penn State
56.08   -   Alicia  Crowd   Syracuse
56.17   -   Marna   Schutte Harvard
56.25   *** Mia Campo   Seton Hall
56.34   *** Andrea  Bliss’  Essex CC/JAM
56.40   -   OrinthiaJones   Md.Balt.Co.
56.76   StacyAnnDwyer   Syracuse
56.82   *   CarielleDoe Virginia
57.07   -   Kiona   Kirkpatrick E.Carolina
57.09   **  Tiffany Barnes  St.John’s
57.12   -   Shontee Bryant  Seton Hall
57.12   Henriette   George  Seton Hall
57.20   *   Tyrona  Heath   Georgetown
57.23   *** Trenace Elliott Pittsburgh
57.26   *** Alyssa  Walker  Md.Balt.Co.
57.27   -   Heather Smith   Seton Hall
Oversized Track 
Open(54.50) 
54.66   Tasha   Downing unattached

500m(1:16.64,x,x)   
1:11.81 -   Sasha   Spencer Georgetown
1:13.04 -   Nickay  Penado  Georgetown
1:13.42 **  Tiffany Barnes  St.John’s
1:13.55 *** Elizabeth   Bayne   Pittsburgh
1:13.55 Sophia  Smellie Essex CC-NJ
1:13.60 *   MeraBelisle Pittsburgh
1:14.20 *** Mia Campo   Seton Hall
1:14.23 -   Neemah  Payne   Pittsburgh
1:14.41 **  JamillahBowman  Georgetown
1:14.71 *** Trenace Elliott Pittsburgh
1:14.83 *** Janine  Jones   Pittsburgh
1:14.90 Ailene  Smith   West Va.
1:15.0  *   Tyrona  Heath   Georgetown
1:15.03 ** 

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2001-02-03 Thread Kebba Tolbert


ABSA meeting in Bloemfontein  (Sotuh Africa).
from iaaf.org

SELECTED RESULTS
Note all athletes are South Africans unless where mentioned

MEN

100 ‘A’ (+2.9)
1 Morne Nagel 10.15 2 Paul Gorries 10.22 3 Leroy Newton10.27
100m ‘B’
1 Godwin Tauya (Zimbabwe) 10.54 2 Innes Viviers 10.60 3 Johan Lodewyk 10.68
200m ‘A’ (+2.9)
1 Radek Zachoval (Czech Republic) 20.52 2 Paul Gorries 20.69 3 Bradley Agnew
21.03
200m ‘B’
1 Inner Viviers 21.26 2 Majala Masidi (Lesotho) 21.61 3 Richard Sharp 21.76
400m
1 Jopie van Oudtshoorn 45.67 2 Marcus la Grange 46.00 3 Arnaud Malherbe 
46.41
110m Hurdles (-2.9)
1 Shaun Bownes 13.40 2 Tomas Dvorak (Czech Republic) 14.20 3 Stephen
Hanekom 14.25
400m Hurdles
1 Llewellyn Herbert 49.50 2 Stefan Tesarik (Czech Republic) 49.66 3 Alwyn 
Myburgh
49.82
800m
1 Dmitry Bogdanov (Russia) 1:50.04 2 Isiah Nkuna 1:51.70 3 Wilson Kirwa 
(Finland)
1:52.52
3000m
1 Hendrik Ramaala 8:14.09 2 Enoch Skosana 8:14.82 3 Godfrey Khahohle 8:15.67
3000m Steeplechase
1 Mosie Manasse 9:18.32 2 Moses Faku 9:19.16 3 David Koloane 9:29.25
Long Jump
1 Felix Coetzee 7.99 2 Martin Mc Clintock 7.80 3 Milam Kovar (Czech 
Republic) 7.69
High Jump
1 Eugene Ernest (Sechelles) 2.15 2 Malcolm Hendricks 2.15 3 Jannie Botha 
1.95
Triple Jump
1 Mkusela Marala 15.38 2 Johan Lodewyk 15.28 3 Heinrich Louren 15.10
Pole Vault
1 Stefan Janacek (Czech Republic) 5.45 2 Adam Ptacek (Czech Republic) 5.45 3
Jaco van Vurren 5.10

WOMEN

100m (-2.3)
1 Heide Seyerling 11.33 2 Rita Onyebuchi (Nigeria) 11.64 PB 3 Shade Ogundemi
(Nigeria) 11.69 PB
200m (+3.3)
1 Heide Seyerling 23.00 2 Carika Potgieter 24.45 3 Minette Alberte 24.58
400m
1 Rita Onyebuchi (Nigeria) 54.49 2 Elmie Hugo 54.73 3 Shade Ogundemi 
(Nigeria)
54.93
400m Hurdles
1 Surita Febbraio 55.21 PB 2 Kerryn van Zyl 58.45 3 Dominique Koster 58.97
800m
1 Agnes Samaria (Namibia) 2:04.52 2 Zanele Grobler 2:05.52 3 Marlene 
Breytenbach
2:06.57
3000m
1 Rene Kalmer 9:35.84 2 Sibongile Ngcongwane 9:48.83 3 Lauren Brentano 
10:0.15
Long Jump
1 Charlene Lawrence 6.35 2 Delia Visser 6.09 3 Ria Fourie 5.97
Javelin
1 Lindy Leveau (Seychelles) 50.91 2 Tanya Tesnar 48.99 3 Marna Dippenaar 
46.36
Discus
1 Valentina Ivanova (Russia) 61.12 2 Elizna Naude 55.62 3 Lizette Schoeman 
47.48

Kebba Tolbert ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Men's and Women's Jumps  Multis Coach
Syracuse University Track  Field

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Re: t-and-f: (no subject)

2000-12-27 Thread Dgs1170
Heehee!
OK one Olympic athlete. I know who he is. Just saw him in a milk ad.
So, we still see the cold war as a sore point? Oh well. I guess we need more Russians to compete against.

DGS
The G.O.A.T.


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2000-12-26 Thread Dgs1170
Armstrong had eight first-place votes and 72 points, while St. Louis Rams quarterback Kurt Warner was third with 34 points. Points were awarded on a 3-2-1 basis. Rounding out the top 10 were Pedro Martinez, Shaquille O'Neal, Rulon Gardner, Jason Giambi, Derek Jeter, Josh Heupel and Marshall Faulk.   

This is a clip from a story in the LA Times about the AP award, awarded to Tiger Woods.
These are the runner ups. In the year of the Olympic Games I see not one Olympic athlete. Who is Rulon Gardner? Josh Heupel makes the list? Amazing.

DGS
The G.O.A.T.



Re: t-and-f: (no subject)

2000-12-26 Thread Kurt Bray

Darrell asks:

These are the runner ups.  In the year of the Olympic Games I see not one
Olympic athlete.  Who is Rulon Gardner?

Rulon Gardner is an Olympic athlete, gold medallist in fact.  He was the 
Greco-Roman wrestler who defeated the heavily-favored Russian defending 
champion to win the super heavyweight division.  It was perhaps the biggest 
upset of the games - even more unlikely than Kenteris winning the 200m.  
After the games Gardner, whose day job is as a farmer in small town in 
Wyoming, made the rounds of the TV talk shows.  He had a very appealing 
personality, and I'm not at all surprised to see him on the list.

Kurt Bray
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Subject: Re: t-and-f: Footlocker Regionals QUESTIO

2000-11-28 Thread Steve Isham

Mike,

In regards to your statements about the Footlocker versus Junior Olympics:

My question is why bother having a JO cross country program when you have
this program which is so much more successful? And appropriate.


Some personal reasons why my daughter and her club compete in the Junior 
Olympic (JO) XC program:

-The JO qualifier meets are more localized, the AAU  USATF South Texas 
Association meets are held in San Antonio (90 miles away), whereas the 
Footlocker South regional is in North Carolina (1300 miles away).  I am 
curious as to how many Texas 9-year olds ran at Footlocker?

-There is no age group national meet in the Footlocker program.

-The JO XC national meet moves to different locations every year, making 
every year a bit different and we get to visit a new cities, which in some 
cases, we would otherwise never visit.

I am not knocking the Footlocker program at all, I would like to experience 
it because I have heard great things about it, but there are very solid 
reasons why the JO XC programs are still very much desirably, from an age 
group perspective.  Now if Footlocker would setup the Texas regional meet 
that they talked about last year, that would be better for us.

Steve




Re: Subject: Re: t-and-f: Footlocker Regionals QUESTIO

2000-11-28 Thread R.T.

On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:44:51 -0600, you wrote:

Mike,

In regards to your statements about the Footlocker versus Junior Olympics:

My question is why bother having a JO cross country program when you have
this program which is so much more successful? And appropriate.

My son (age 14) competed in the SoCal Association JO meet 3 weeks ago.
During the course walk-through, the meet director told the kids in the
older divisions that most of the "fastest runners" in the area wouldn't
be there because they would be competing in the California State CIF first-round
meet the same day.  At least that was his experience in the past.
So he warned them that they're probably used to 'following the leaders'
in high school meets and that wouldn't be the case, they would have to
be up in the lead and close to it to keep the pace from dragging.
He also said he may combine races in the top two divisions because of
lack of entrants (again, from his prior experience).

As it turned out, there were plenty of entrants to have separate races,
combining wasn't required, and as for the quality of competition, my son
ran a time that wasn't too far off his season best as a HS frosh (converting
3M down to 2.5M), but still got his clock cleaned.  The competition was
pretty darn good!
He could have ran a PR and still might not have qualified to get to Regional JO.

There's no way I'd say JO is unsuccessful-   this year at least, the
quality of competition and the depth of the fields were very good.

The times in the upper two age groups correlated very closely to what
we've seen this year in the best of California High School jayvee races, such as at
the Mt. SAC Invitational.
Once you move up to JO Regionals and Nationals, of course the quality is
even better.

Sure, Footlocker syphons off the best of the junior and senior elite runners,
but the JO champions aren't exactly chopped liver.

RT



Re: Subject: Re: t-and-f: Footlocker Regionals QUESTIO

2000-11-28 Thread ed prytherch

I think that the strength of JO must vary a lot through different regions.
Last year, two of my junior girls who finished 6th and 8th in the South
Carolina Independent Schools state meet, took second and third in the SC JO.
In our state, running JO doesn't make much sense for competitive high school
athletes.
Ed Prytherch.

-Original Message-
From: R.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Steve Isham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: Subject: Re: t-and-f: Footlocker Regionals QUESTIO


On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:44:51 -0600, you wrote:

Mike,

In regards to your statements about the Footlocker versus Junior Olympics:

My question is why bother having a JO cross country program when you have
this program which is so much more successful? And appropriate.

My son (age 14) competed in the SoCal Association JO meet 3 weeks ago.
During the course walk-through, the meet director told the kids in the
older divisions that most of the "fastest runners" in the area wouldn't
be there because they would be competing in the California State CIF
first-round
meet the same day.  At least that was his experience in the past.
So he warned them that they're probably used to 'following the leaders'
in high school meets and that wouldn't be the case, they would have to
be up in the lead and close to it to keep the pace from dragging.
He also said he may combine races in the top two divisions because of
lack of entrants (again, from his prior experience).

As it turned out, there were plenty of entrants to have separate races,
combining wasn't required, and as for the quality of competition, my son
ran a time that wasn't too far off his season best as a HS frosh
(converting
3M down to 2.5M), but still got his clock cleaned.  The competition was
pretty darn good!
He could have ran a PR and still might not have qualified to get to
Regional JO.

There's no way I'd say JO is unsuccessful-   this year at least, the
quality of competition and the depth of the fields were very good.

The times in the upper two age groups correlated very closely to what
we've seen this year in the best of California High School jayvee races,
such as at
the Mt. SAC Invitational.
Once you move up to JO Regionals and Nationals, of course the quality is
even better.

Sure, Footlocker syphons off the best of the junior and senior elite
runners,
but the JO champions aren't exactly chopped liver.

RT





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2000-10-23 Thread AAIIntl

Please remove my email address from the list .

Thank you.



No Subject

2000-10-17 Thread mitcca19

For college and high school meet results try
http://www.trackmeets.com
For road race results try
http://www.run-time.com



Subject: t-and-f: Re:Nike Ad

2000-10-16 Thread Richard McCann


[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Seriously, this is an obvious, classic case of a double standard 

[The old subject header was not appropriate.]
I have a very pragmatic response, in which I want to support Justin 
Clouder.  This ad was essentially the most shocking scene out of the 
R-rated teen horror flicks.  My 6-year son was very scared by it, and 
talked about it for days.  We had to supervise his watching the Olympics 
for several days until I saw the notice on the this list that it had been 
pulled.  I really don't we should have to screen our children's watching 
the Olympics.

As for Friday the 13th and Halloween being on TV, at least we would be 
making a conscious choice to view that movie for our son.  We had little 
control over the ad since it was randomly inserted into what is otherwise 
non-offensive programming.  The ability to control that choice is what is 
at the heart of this issue, not just the content.

As for the Gladiator ad, it did not have the same shock level, nor quite 
the same level of implied violence.  The skateboarder obviously was not 
taking the gladiator seriously, implying that it was a fantasy which my son 
seemed to be able to pick up readily.

If Nike had directed that the ad only be shown after 10pm, I don't think I 
would have objected--I thought it was a clever send up that emphasized that 
the role of women is changing and that women are gaining more control over 
different aspects of their lives.


Richard McCann




Re: Subject: t-and-f: Re:Nike Ad

2000-10-16 Thread Ed Dana Parrot

 I have a very pragmatic response, in which I want to support Justin
 Clouder.  This ad was essentially the most shocking scene out of the
 R-rated teen horror flicks.

I can respect those who feel the ad was inappropriate, but let's not overdo
it.  This scene was not even in the top 100 most shocking scenes from these
flicks.  I only saw the first friday the 13th (a stupid movie), and it had
dozens of scenes that were much more shocking than anything in the
commercial.

 As for Friday the 13th and Halloween being on TV, at least we would be
making a conscious choice to view that movie for our son.  We had little
control over the ad since it was randomly inserted into what is otherwise
 non-offensive programming.  The ability to control that choice is what is
at the heart of this issue, not just the content.

There are many commercials that are just as bad.  What is less shocking
about someone getting into a car accident with glass all over the place?
What about the anti-smoking commercial with body bags surrounding a building
(any kid who can read will get that one)?  What about any number of violent
WWF promotions - to say that the Nike ad was any worse than those is
ridiculous.  I could go on, but this commercial was TAME compared to
commercials I have seen with network news and other "family-time" shows.

As for the Gladiator ad, it did not have the same shock level, nor quite
the same level of implied violence.  The skateboarder obviously was not
taking the gladiator seriously, implying that it was a fantasy which my son
seemed to be able to pick up readily.

I can't disagree that the gladiator had had little shock value.  As a matter
of fact, it was really stupid and I didn't even remember that it was a Nike
commercial until it came up on the list.  But as for implied violence, the
gladiator ad had a lot more implied violence.  Christ, a guy with a sword
swinging and barely missing a teenage kid's head.  The chainsaw guy hardly
got anywhere near Suzy.

It's all a matter of perception.  Plenty of 5-10 year old kids were not
bothered in the slightest by the ad.  Others were.  Plenty of kids from
broken homes get disturbed by commercials showing a father having to talk to
a child on the phone because he can't be there, yet no one's pulling those
ads.

American society doesn't blink at the type of violence in gladiator
commercial - it's accepted.  Yet somehow we can't have our kids seeing an
individual man threaten an individual woman in the dark.  No wonder when
kids reach puberty and have to deal with real life threats and situations
they are totally unprepared.

- Ed Parrot
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




t-and-f: (no subject)

2000-10-12 Thread MaggieMaePup

In a message dated 10/12/00 8:20:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Just wanted to respond to your note below.  I have just three questions for 
you:

1.  Since when does a 3:57 1,500 meters equal mediocrity?
2.  Who was the so called tarot card reading "distance specialist" you 
were watching the Woman's 1,500 meter with?
...And 3.  Who the heck is Eddie Caine, Jr.? 

maddog 

 I hate to rehash an old topic but I can't resist. Suzy Hamilton! I don't 
 understand what the love affair (er, excuse affair) some people on this list 
 have for the woman. I read some of the posts on this distance dominated list 
 that downplay both sprints and sprinters yet most excuse gutsy little Suzy 
 for what I consider to be a choke. She falls yet we forget about the fact 
 that no one was around her when she dramatically fell to the ground. She 
gets 
 up, makes it through the finish line only to fall out after about five more 
 steps. Is this becoming a pattern? 
 
 Nike pumps all this money into her for what (not trying to be sarcastic)? I 
 don't believe any of us are rushing to the mall to buy some shoes because 
she 
 wears them so the marketing aspect excuse may now exit via the toilet. I was 
 watching the 1500 with a distance specialist that predicted she would fall 
 BEFORE she did. I can't say how alarming I found that. Not to mention the 
 poor medicine excuse. 
 
 I am starting to see that in American we value and reward mediocrity on the 
 world level in the distance events. Are we still paying athletes over 30 
 based on their potential? If so, let me dust off my old spikes! Sure beats 
 the heck out of taking depositions all day.
 
 Wondering if I am the only one seeing these things,
 Edward Caine, Esq.
 You sure you want to hang with ol Eddie Caine, Jr.? - 1997
  




RE: t-and-f: (no subject)

2000-10-12 Thread malmo



 1.  Since when does a 3:57 1,500 meters equal mediocrity?


Since it wasn't done until this year and she still hasn't done anything on
the world stage. Suzy is still the Anna Kournikova of track.

malmo

PS I don't think that Anna K. is all that attractive. She looks like any one
of hundreds of thousands of blond mall-rats. Suzy, however, is all right by
me.




Re: t-and-f: (no subject)

2000-10-12 Thread John Lunn

With the tape delay anyone could be a "specialist". I impressed everyone with my
knowledge of the trampoline.
John

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In a message dated 10/12/00 8:20:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Just wanted to respond to your note below.  I have just three questions for
 you:

 1.  Since when does a 3:57 1,500 meters equal mediocrity?
 2.  Who was the so called tarot card reading "distance specialist" you
 were watching the Woman's 1,500 meter with?
 ...And 3.  Who the heck is Eddie Caine, Jr.?

 maddog

  I hate to rehash an old topic but I can't resist. Suzy Hamilton! I don't
  understand what the love affair (er, excuse affair) some people on this list
  have for the woman. I read some of the posts on this distance dominated list
  that downplay both sprints and sprinters yet most excuse gutsy little Suzy
  for what I consider to be a choke. She falls yet we forget about the fact
  that no one was around her when she dramatically fell to the ground. She
 gets
  up, makes it through the finish line only to fall out after about five more
  steps. Is this becoming a pattern?

  Nike pumps all this money into her for what (not trying to be sarcastic)? I
  don't believe any of us are rushing to the mall to buy some shoes because
 she
  wears them so the marketing aspect excuse may now exit via the toilet. I was
  watching the 1500 with a distance specialist that predicted she would fall
  BEFORE she did. I can't say how alarming I found that. Not to mention the
  poor medicine excuse.

  I am starting to see that in American we value and reward mediocrity on the
  world level in the distance events. Are we still paying athletes over 30
  based on their potential? If so, let me dust off my old spikes! Sure beats
  the heck out of taking depositions all day.

  Wondering if I am the only one seeing these things,
  Edward Caine, Esq.
  You sure you want to hang with ol Eddie Caine, Jr.? - 1997
   




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2000-10-04 Thread Dan Kaplan

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 For these reasons, I am clearly old and out of it, and more than ever
 have not a clue what the hell I am talking.
 
 Truly this is a sad day.

Indeed!

 -Why no mention of Portland drubbing ranked Southern Utah?

It was a very impressive performance by Portland.  Why no mention of the
"little" DIII team that ran competitively with the DI big guns?  ;-)

Dan

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2000-10-01 Thread Gktrig

My husband and I have been to every summer Olympics since 1976 and every 
outdoor world championships. However, we decided not to go to Sydney. So we 
asked all of our friends not to tell us any results, listened only to a 
classical music radio station, watched only  tv we knew would not have 
results, and read the newspaper a day late. There was only one breach, a 
casual aquaintance saw my husband and blurted out the result of the men's 
1500 before Gary could say a word. We watched NBC, were surprised by how much 
track they actually showed, and had a great time. 
Jules Trigueiro
Director of Fun, Prefontaine Classic



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2000-10-01 Thread R.T.

My husband and I have been to every summer Olympics since 1976 and every 
outdoor world championships. However, we decided not to go to Sydney. So we 
asked all of our friends not to tell us any results, listened only to a 
classical music radio station, watched only  tv we knew would not have 
results, and read the newspaper a day late. There was only one breach, a 
casual aquaintance saw my husband and blurted out the result of the men's 
1500 before Gary could say a word. We watched NBC, were surprised by how much 
track they actually showed, and had a great time. 
Jules Trigueiro
Director of Fun, Prefontaine Classic
 ^^^


WOW!  Now that's a job I've aspired to my entire life, and
never realized it.
Director of Fun.   Fantasticly intriguing possibilities.
Do you think they offer a degree in it- BOF- Bachelor of Fun ?
Or a Master of Fun ?

Jules I envy you!

...maybe tomorrow I'll propose that my employer create a
similar position, and I'll be glad to volunteer to fill it...

I think this list needs a rotating annointed Director of Fun, too.
Things have been glum enough with the "down" results in almost all
events this year, the doping wars, and so on.  Rotating Directors
to serve 4-week stints.

Director of Fun, yeh- that's the ticket.

...not making fun of Jules, just amazed at the novelty of the job
title...

RT



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2000-09-25 Thread Philip Weishaar