RE: t-and-f: No XC Please!
what the 'tie-dyed triangle' planners really need to address is the explosion of b.o. within those municipalities! can we have some minimum hygiene standards?! (^; --- "malmo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >Boulder's sister city, Eugene (part of the "Tie-dyed Triangle" - Eugene, >Boulder, Berkeley), has the same mind-set. University professors (of course) >on zoning commissions and planning boards, promoting their vision of a dense >and "vibrant" downtown, while simultaneously railing against "urban sprawl". >Who should conscripted to live in the urban cores of the future? Why you, of >course! The suburbs are reserved for the new, liberal gentry. > >malmo > >PS It could be argued that Madison is the forth sister, making it the >handle of the "Tie-dyed Dipper" > > > >> >> This reminds me of Boulder trying to control the population growth of >> the city in the 70's. They passed a Zero Population Growth ordinance >> which spawned the fastest growth and the biggest building boom in the >> history of the city. >> I think that this was a deliberate plan to get the season going. Well >> done! >> >> Dave Carey wrote: >> >> > It is rapidly becoming clear that this request to "hold off on >> > the XC" will generate more postings to the net about XC than if the >> > matter had never been brought up. >> > >> > Dave Carey >> > >> > On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Roger Wolff wrote: >> > >> > > Fellow T&F Fans, >> > > >> > > Please hold off on the XC. It could be argued that it doesn't >> > > belong on this list at all. The most important T&F competition >> > > in four years is just around the corner!! >> > > >> > > -Roger >> > > >> >> == "In a big country, dreams stay with you, like a lover's voice, 'cross a mountainside . . . " - Big Country _ i-run.com - your running log A free online running log
Re: t-and-f: No XC Please!
Agreed! I remember Boston having a "Euro XC' race at Franklin Park with hay bales and stuff, but indeed, FP is a grass track. The last 2 NCAA XC courses have been pretty good, especially Lawrence, KS. Joe >From: "alan tobin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "alan tobin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: t-and-f: No XC Please! >Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 17:13:42 GMT > >There aren't many "real" XC courses in the US. Give me a creek to run over >or a downed tree to jump over...that's "real" XC. A lot of college XC >courses are run on what I like to call "grass tracks". > >Alan > > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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There aren't many "real" XC courses in the US. Give me a creek to run over or a downed tree to jump over...that's "real" XC. A lot of college XC courses are run on what I like to call "grass tracks". Alan Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: t-and-f: No XC Please!
Cross Country IS a Field event. Apart from US most cross country is run in fields, and I suppose even golf courses are just well manicured fields. *grin* Keep talking cross country its as much a part of Athletics as sprinting. Mike - Original Message - From: "R.T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 1:30 AM Subject: Re: t-and-f: No XC Please! > At least the sprint lovers talk about Michael Johnson > and Maurice Greene and Merlene Ottey and Privalova and > Perec and so on. > NOT what Freddie Sprinter is doing setting 10.6 school > records at Podunk College. > > Hint: > You'll get the RESPECT of sprint and field event > enthusiasts if you'd just keep the XC discussion at the > same level. People like Tergat. Geb. Meb. Kennedy. Baumann. > It's winter in the southern hemisphere. Are the > Aussie and NZ national XC championships soon? Who > will they be sending to the Worlds (which unfortunately > isn't until March) ? Do they have any great hopes of > resurrecting their nations as distance running powers like > they had in the 50s and 60s? What about that Clarke girl? > > RT
Re: t-and-f: No XC Please!
In a message dated 8/22/00 1:55:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << My quick top 10 for NCAA XC this season. Discuss. 1. Arkansas - sure they lose a lot of dogs up front, but this is Arkansas. Lots of dogs in the waiting. 2. Stanford - if they recover from the Olympics... 3. Michigan - always a tough team, hope they can pull it all together in the big dance 4. Colorado - Torres squared should be ready for fine sophomore seasons. Festa transfer? 5. Iona - my darkhorse. Returns one All-American and two more in the waiting. 6. Wisconsin - Coach Schumacher has a nice squad coming back. Festa? 7. Oregon - rumors are abound about transfers. Need I say - Festa? 8. Georgetown - Even higher if Franklyn Sanchez is eligible. Mike Smith from JMU is another solid pickup. 9. Providence - Keith Kelly is my darkhorse winner. Deep from 1-5. Need to stay injury-free. 10. Princeton - Paul Morrison is another contender for the individual title. Solid pack running is their strength. 10 others worth noting - NC State, Villanova, Dartmouth, BYU, The Arizona Triumverate (U of A, ASU (Festa?), Northern A), Notre Dame (Shay redshirt?), Duke, Alabama (Kimani) >> Isaiah Festa is running at Wisconsin...not 100% sure but that is the latest. A.C.
Re: t-and-f: No XC Please!
The whining that goes on about cross country is ridiculous. Listen, collegiate cross country discussions and results are easily just as important as talk concerning collegiate sprinting, which we see all the time on this list. What's more, it's ten times better than the endless junk we have to read about drug busts and other bureaucratic track crap. I'm excited about the Olympics as much as anyone else, but there's no need to start this anti-cross country crusade against a part of the sport that so many of us enjoy. T. Howell On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, R.T. wrote: > At least the sprint lovers talk about Michael Johnson > and Maurice Greene and Merlene Ottey and Privalova and > Perec and so on. > NOT what Freddie Sprinter is doing setting 10.6 school > records at Podunk College. > > Hint: > You'll get the RESPECT of sprint and field event > enthusiasts if you'd just keep the XC discussion at the > same level. People like Tergat. Geb. Meb. Kennedy. Baumann. > It's winter in the southern hemisphere. Are the > Aussie and NZ national XC championships soon? Who > will they be sending to the Worlds (which unfortunately > isn't until March) ? Do they have any great hopes of > resurrecting their nations as distance running powers like > they had in the 50s and 60s? What about that Clarke girl? > > RT >
RE: t-and-f: No XC Please!
Now let's see - Cocaine use = 2 years Murder = 25 years What would bribery and corruption be worth? Paul! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ben Hall Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 9:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: No XC Please! "tomfoolery" that isn't a nice thing to say about the IAAF and the rocket science they are currently practicing-- "oh let's let Soto off he's a nice guy and he only got caught twice" :-) benjamin hall merrill-hall new media, inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] 404.875.3060(p) 404.875.6572(f) http://www.merrillhall.com/ > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 8:08 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: t-and-f: No XC Please! > > > > In a message dated 8/22/00 11:40:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << I beg your pardon! > Perhaps some relevant x-c discussion and posts are just what this > list needs > in lieu of some of the tomfoolery that permeates this list. >> > > yeah, i agree! > > So this guy walks into a bar in Hoboken... > > > gh >
RE: t-and-f: No XC Please!
"tomfoolery" that isn't a nice thing to say about the IAAF and the rocket science they are currently practicing-- "oh let's let Soto off he's a nice guy and he only got caught twice" :-) benjamin hall merrill-hall new media, inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] 404.875.3060(p) 404.875.6572(f) http://www.merrillhall.com/ > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 8:08 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: t-and-f: No XC Please! > > > > In a message dated 8/22/00 11:40:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << I beg your pardon! > Perhaps some relevant x-c discussion and posts are just what this > list needs > in lieu of some of the tomfoolery that permeates this list. >> > > yeah, i agree! > > So this guy walks into a bar in Hoboken... > > > gh >
RE: t-and-f: No XC Please!
Boulder's sister city, Eugene (part of the "Tie-dyed Triangle" - Eugene, Boulder, Berkeley), has the same mind-set. University professors (of course) on zoning commissions and planning boards, promoting their vision of a dense and "vibrant" downtown, while simultaneously railing against "urban sprawl". Who should conscripted to live in the urban cores of the future? Why you, of course! The suburbs are reserved for the new, liberal gentry. malmo PS It could be argued that Madison is the forth sister, making it the handle of the "Tie-dyed Dipper" > > This reminds me of Boulder trying to control the population growth of > the city in the 70's. They passed a Zero Population Growth ordinance > which spawned the fastest growth and the biggest building boom in the > history of the city. > I think that this was a deliberate plan to get the season going. Well > done! > > Dave Carey wrote: > > > It is rapidly becoming clear that this request to "hold off on > > the XC" will generate more postings to the net about XC than if the > > matter had never been brought up. > > > > Dave Carey > > > > On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Roger Wolff wrote: > > > > > Fellow T&F Fans, > > > > > > Please hold off on the XC. It could be argued that it doesn't > > > belong on this list at all. The most important T&F competition > > > in four years is just around the corner!! > > > > > > -Roger > > > > >
Re: t-and-f: No XC Please!
At least the sprint lovers talk about Michael Johnson and Maurice Greene and Merlene Ottey and Privalova and Perec and so on. NOT what Freddie Sprinter is doing setting 10.6 school records at Podunk College. Hint: You'll get the RESPECT of sprint and field event enthusiasts if you'd just keep the XC discussion at the same level. People like Tergat. Geb. Meb. Kennedy. Baumann. It's winter in the southern hemisphere. Are the Aussie and NZ national XC championships soon? Who will they be sending to the Worlds (which unfortunately isn't until March) ? Do they have any great hopes of resurrecting their nations as distance running powers like they had in the 50s and 60s? What about that Clarke girl? RT
Re: t-and-f: No XC Please!
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 10:09:17 -0700, you wrote: >Fellow T&F Fans, > >Please hold off on the XC. It could be argued that it doesn't belong on this list at >all. The most important T&F competition in four years is just around the corner!! > >-Roger I vote it's only okay to talk about XC if it involves a XC meet which is recognized for scoring in the IAAF athletes ranking system :-) No, XC is not ignored by the IAAF...but they have it weighted just about right as far as relevance... :-) RT
Re: t-and-f: No XC Please!
In a message dated 8/22/00 11:40:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I beg your pardon! Perhaps some relevant x-c discussion and posts are just what this list needs in lieu of some of the tomfoolery that permeates this list. >> yeah, i agree! So this guy walks into a bar in Hoboken... gh
Re: t-and-f: No XC Please!
This reminds me of Boulder trying to control the population growth of the city in the 70's. They passed a Zero Population Growth ordinance which spawned the fastest growth and the biggest building boom in the history of the city. I think that this was a deliberate plan to get the season going. Well done! Dave Carey wrote: > It is rapidly becoming clear that this request to "hold off on > the XC" will generate more postings to the net about XC than if the > matter had never been brought up. > > Dave Carey > > On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Roger Wolff wrote: > > > Fellow T&F Fans, > > > > Please hold off on the XC. It could be argued that it doesn't > > belong on this list at all. The most important T&F competition > > in four years is just around the corner!! > > > > -Roger > >
Re: t-and-f: No XC Please!
It is rapidly becoming clear that this request to "hold off on the XC" will generate more postings to the net about XC than if the matter had never been brought up. Dave Carey On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Roger Wolff wrote: > Fellow T&F Fans, > > Please hold off on the XC. It could be argued that it doesn't > belong on this list at all. The most important T&F competition > in four years is just around the corner!! > > -Roger >
Re: t-and-f: No XC Please!
My quick top 10 for NCAA XC this season. Discuss. 1. Arkansas - sure they lose a lot of dogs up front, but this is Arkansas. Lots of dogs in the waiting. 2. Stanford - if they recover from the Olympics... 3. Michigan - always a tough team, hope they can pull it all together in the big dance 4. Colorado - Torres squared should be ready for fine sophomore seasons. Festa transfer? 5. Iona - my darkhorse. Returns one All-American and two more in the waiting. 6. Wisconsin - Coach Schumacher has a nice squad coming back. Festa? 7. Oregon - rumors are abound about transfers. Need I say - Festa? 8. Georgetown - Even higher if Franklyn Sanchez is eligible. Mike Smith from JMU is another solid pickup. 9. Providence - Keith Kelly is my darkhorse winner. Deep from 1-5. Need to stay injury-free. 10. Princeton - Paul Morrison is another contender for the individual title. Solid pack running is their strength. 10 others worth noting - NC State, Villanova, Dartmouth, BYU, The Arizona Triumverate (U of A, ASU (Festa?), Northern A), Notre Dame (Shay redshirt?), Duke, Alabama (Kimani) >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: t-and-f: No XC Please! >Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 14:36:37 EDT > >I beg your pardon! >Perhaps some relevant x-c discussion and posts are just what this list >needs >in lieu of some of the tomfoolery that permeates this list. > >Thank you, >Larry _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
RE: t-and-f: No XC Please!
It could also be argued that MANY more people are actively involved in cross-country at this time of the year than are actively involved with the Olympics. For lots of folks, that's where their day-to-day interests have shifted since high school and cross-country seasons are about to get underway in the next few weeks. (Actually, the season get rolling here in Texas in four days!) Phil Murray M-F Athletic Co., Inc. "Everything Track & Field" 1-800-561-4503 www.texastrack.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Roger Wolff Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 12:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: No XC Please! Fellow T&F Fans, Please hold off on the XC. It could be argued that it doesn't belong on this list at all. The most important T&F competition in four years is just around the corner!! -Roger
Re: t-and-f: No XC Please!
I beg your pardon! Perhaps some relevant x-c discussion and posts are just what this list needs in lieu of some of the tomfoolery that permeates this list. Thank you, Larry
