Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: I'm surprised about this discussion. Think that amenity=place_of_worship has to be treated like amenity=school. Nobody is asking to create a landuse=school because it is rendered properly on the main osm style. The problem is that amenity=place_of_worship is always rendered as a building even when it could be a bigger area (like for schools). +1. I've always ignored the fact that the main rendering draws amenity=place_of_worship in a really dark color and I tag the whole church grounds as amenity=place_of_worship and tag the church building itself with building=church. This is similar to how I tag the whole school grounds with amenity=school. I remember a discussion about a proposed tag landuse=institutional or similar for things like these earlier this year: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dinstitutional https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2014-March/016842.html ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?
2014-07-18 11:15 GMT+02:00 Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com: +1. I've always ignored the fact that the main rendering draws amenity=place_of_worship in a really dark color and I tag the whole church grounds as amenity=place_of_worship and tag the church building itself with building=church. This is similar to how I tag the whole school grounds with amenity=school. I'm not sure church grounds is a place of worship. People don't usually worship God in an organized manner besides the church. I know of some churches in Croatia where there is an altar and pews out in the open [1]. I think these kinds of setups are the only cases where you map amenity=place_of_worship not as a building (at least in christian religion). [1] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a1/Marija_Bistrica_Crkva_na_otvorenom_2011-09-11.jpg ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure church grounds is a place of worship. People don't usually worship God in an organized manner besides the church. There are actually a lot of churches where I am where the Catholic 14 Stations of the Cross are spread throughout the church grounds and these are spots where churchgoers pray the Way of the Cross. Besides, I don't think we need to be quite literal with place_of_worship only being tagged for the actual specific object where one does worshiping. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?
Some monasteries have quite extensive grounds which are within the monastic enclosure, that is, private to the monastic community and subject to the same rules as the monastery (e.g. if it's a silent order, that area of the grounds will be silent). __John ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] British English Spelling shop=jewelry
Am 18/lug/2014 um 00:14 schrieb John Packer john.pack...@gmail.com: I still think shop=jewelry shouldn't be changed, because it seems well-established, so it simply isn't worth it to change them. It might be some inconsistency, but it's a really small one. I believe we should be rigid on enforcing British spelling over other English spellings in order to keep it simple. If we started to use arbitrary spellings we'd soon end up in a mess where you'd have to look up the specific spelling of every single tag even when you remember the tag... cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Tag for shops proposing personalized plates?
Am 18/lug/2014 um 10:58 schrieb Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.com: Hi, I have been looking for an existing tag for these specific shops that are not copyshops, but propose only personalized mural plates (eg for office in the building entrance). Any idea? not sure about existing tags, I think there are different sub typologies of these according to what else they do (eg cutting adhesive plastic for display windows, or making stamps) or the kind of sign (etched, engraved, printed, bonded,...) which they can produce with their equipment. Maybe shop=sign_maker ? or advertizing_graphic? cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?
Am 18/lug/2014 um 12:50 schrieb John Sturdy jcg.stu...@gmail.com: Some monasteries have quite extensive grounds which are within the monastic enclosure, that is, private to the monastic community and subject to the same rules as the monastery (e.g. if it's a silent order, that area of the grounds will be silent). +1, this whole area should get amenity =monastery IMHO cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?
Am 18/lug/2014 um 12:32 schrieb Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com: Besides, I don't think we need to be quite literal with place_of_worship only being tagged for the actual specific object where one does worshiping. To what else would you like to extend it? cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] British English Spelling shop=jewelry
W dniu 18.07.2014 13:22, Martin Koppenhoefer napisał(a): English spellings in order to keep it simple. If we started to use arbitrary spellings we'd soon end up in a mess where you'd have to look up the specific spelling of every single tag even when you remember the tag... -0,5 =} I think for most of the mappers (including me) English is not their primary language and I'm not sure what kind of mix of British/American/out-of-the-blue/simply-wrong words I'm using. I just know some words and most of the time just don't know where they belong. Beside, when you use some tags, you just remember them, no matter how strange would they be spelled, and when you don't, you have to check it anyway. That's not to object to you, but I guess different spelling issues are not that important thing. -- Mambałaga ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?
As we all know, rendering is different from tagging. If people want to change how place_of_worship is rendered, that's a different issue for a different venue. This is about how to tag the data. On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: I'm surprised about this discussion. Think that amenity=place_of_worship has to be treated like amenity=school. Nobody is asking to create a landuse=school because it is rendered properly on the main osm style. The problem is that amenity=place_of_worship is always rendered as a building even when it could be a bigger area (like for schools). +1. I've always ignored the fact that the main rendering draws amenity=place_of_worship in a really dark color and I tag the whole church grounds as amenity=place_of_worship and tag the church building itself with building=church. This is similar to how I tag the whole school grounds with amenity=school. I remember a discussion about a proposed tag landuse=institutional or similar for things like these earlier this year: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dinstitutional https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2014-March/016842.html ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?
Besides, I don't think we need to be quite literal with place_of_worship only being tagged for the actual specific object where one does worshiping. I hear what you're saying, but with a tag that's used 600K times (on 226K ways), we have to look at actual usage for part of our guidance. *Totally* unscientific, but I used overpass turbo to zoom in on multiple areas around the world and look at ways that are tagged amenity=place_of_worship, and the vast majority appeared to be building outlines. Using it for the grounds seems like an outlier. (if someone else wants to do more robust research, I'd be happy to see it! :) So, while using place of worship for the grounds may be correct in certain case, in the majority of cases, the common usage seems to leave a question about how to tag the grounds. On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 5:32 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure church grounds is a place of worship. People don't usually worship God in an organized manner besides the church. There are actually a lot of churches where I am where the Catholic 14 Stations of the Cross are spread throughout the church grounds and these are spots where churchgoers pray the Way of the Cross. Besides, I don't think we need to be quite literal with place_of_worship only being tagged for the actual specific object where one does worshiping. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] British English Spelling shop=jewelry
Am 18/lug/2014 um 14:27 schrieb Daniel Koć daniel@koć.pl: Beside, when you use some tags, you just remember them, no matter how strange would they be spelled, and when you don't, you have to check it anyway. This is not (mainly) about pavement vs. sidewalk, but about similar couples like centre vs. center or jewellery vs. jewelry cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] British English Spelling shop=jewelry
I think for most of the mappers (including me) English is not their primary language and I'm not sure what kind of mix of British/American/out-of-the-blue/simply-wrong words I'm using. At least in Germany (or at my school) there was a huge emphasis on using British English and using habor instead of habour or center instead of centre was flat out wrong. So in OSM I would always use that spelling, because that I would assume that is how it is supposed to be spelled. Beside, when you use some tags, you just remember them, no matter how strange would they be spelled, and when you don't, you have to check it anyway. I'm certainly not going to remember every small instance where AE was used instead of BE. I agree that jewelry isn't the best example, but if we allow that for the sole reason of being established what's the justification for change any other esablished tag where you have one of those more typical differences? The only time I could see an argument for not using BE is when you have something like fizzy drink and say okay soft drink is even a term in some other languages and much more known. __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AndiG88 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] British English Spelling shop=jewelry
On 2014-07-18 09:27 AM, Andreas Goss wrote: I think for most of the mappers (including me) English is not their primary language and I'm not sure what kind of mix of British/American/out-of-the-blue/simply-wrong words I'm using. At least in Germany (or at my school) there was a huge emphasis on using British English and using habor instead of habour or center instead of centre was flat out wrong. So in OSM I would always use that spelling, because that I would assume that is how it is supposed to be spelled. Something I've noticed as an American that works with many foreign nationals is that the majority of people who learn English in a foreign country seem to learn British English - my sample may be biased since I work with a lot of people from India, which is a former colony, but amongst people from China and Germany for example I am also used to seeing the British spellings. Even being part of the (small around here it seems) group that's inconvenienced by it, I think that it's important that the project standardize on British English. In the case of existing tags people will hopefully tend to use the spelling that's already predominant, but new tags are being added at such a rate that it's still an issue. In the case of jewellery vs. jewelry (the former of which upsets my en_US spellchecker), I would encourage automatically correcting jewelry as a spelling error. Yes, there is value to looking at what tags currently exist, but people who are writing queries against the dataset shouldn't have to write several other queries just to take a guess at which spelling is the accepted one. --- Jesse B. Crawford Student, Information Technology New Mexico Inst. of Mining Tech https://jbcrawford.us || je...@jbcrawford.us https://cs.nmt.edu/~jcrawford || jcrawf...@cs.nmt.edu ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] British English Spelling shop=jewelry
2014-07-18 17:55 GMT+02:00 Jesse B. Crawford je...@jbcrawford.us: Something I've noticed as an American that works with many foreign nationals is that the majority of people who learn English in a foreign country seem to learn British English - my sample may be biased since I work with a lot of people from India, which is a former colony, but amongst people from China and Germany for example I am also used to seeing the British spellings. Even being part of the (small around here it seems) group that's inconvenienced by it, I think that it's important that the project standardize on British English. In the case of existing tags people will hopefully tend to use the spelling that's already predominant, but new tags are being added at such a rate that it's still an issue. In the case of jewellery vs. jewelry (the former of which upsets my en_US spellchecker), I would encourage automatically correcting jewelry as a spelling error. Yes, there is value to looking at what tags currently exist, but people who are writing queries against the dataset shouldn't have to write several other queries just to take a guess at which spelling is the accepted one. American English is a fork... ;) -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] British English Spelling shop=jewelry
Am 7/18/14 17:55 , schrieb Jesse B. Crawford: In the case of existing tags people will hopefully tend to use the spelling that's already predominant, but new tags are being added at such a rate that it's still an issue. The problem I have with this is that it also takes away the initiative to find the right tag in the first place. Why should I care when in the end we just accept it? Why ask the gb mailing list what the right word for life_ring is, when that spelling is listed on Wikipedia? Yes, it is probably neither common in the UK nor the US and used because the German Rettungsring (safety ring) sounds pretty close to it. But is it an existing English word? Yes. So in my opinion this especially hurts when we talk about new tags, because any key that is to some tiny extent established is then basically left that way. __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AndiG88 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] British English Spelling shop=jewelry
Then there's Canada, which freely uses both spellings as equally acceptable... On Jul 18, 2014 12:53 PM, John Packer john.pack...@gmail.com wrote: Should british english be preferred? Yes. Do we need to change shop=jewelry to shop=jewellery? No. Not remembering the spelling is not an issue when a tag is well-established. If you try to add this tag in most editors, you will either use a preset or will have auto-complete help you with the spelling. That's not something that will happen, it's something that already happens. Jesse, as far as I know, AE is predominant in South America. 2014-07-18 13:01 GMT-03:00 Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr: 2014-07-18 17:55 GMT+02:00 Jesse B. Crawford je...@jbcrawford.us: Something I've noticed as an American that works with many foreign nationals is that the majority of people who learn English in a foreign country seem to learn British English - my sample may be biased since I work with a lot of people from India, which is a former colony, but amongst people from China and Germany for example I am also used to seeing the British spellings. Even being part of the (small around here it seems) group that's inconvenienced by it, I think that it's important that the project standardize on British English. In the case of existing tags people will hopefully tend to use the spelling that's already predominant, but new tags are being added at such a rate that it's still an issue. In the case of jewellery vs. jewelry (the former of which upsets my en_US spellchecker), I would encourage automatically correcting jewelry as a spelling error. Yes, there is value to looking at what tags currently exist, but people who are writing queries against the dataset shouldn't have to write several other queries just to take a guess at which spelling is the accepted one. American English is a fork... ;) -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com wrote: Besides, I don't think we need to be quite literal with place_of_worship only being tagged for the actual specific object where one does worshiping. I hear what you're saying, but with a tag that's used 600K times (on 226K ways), we have to look at actual usage for part of our guidance. *Totally* unscientific, but I used overpass turbo to zoom in on multiple areas around the world and look at ways that are tagged amenity=place_of_worship, and the vast majority appeared to be building outlines. Using it for the grounds seems like an outlier. (if someone else wants to do more robust research, I'd be happy to see it! :) So, while using place of worship for the grounds may be correct in certain case, in the majority of cases, the common usage seems to leave a question about how to tag the grounds. Places where the grounds are tagged with amenity=place_of_worship and not just the main building: Tokyo, Japan: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/4gi Manila, Philippines: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/4gj Singapore: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/4gk Beijing, China: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/4gl Bangalore, India: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/4gm Bangkok, Thailand: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/4gn I don't know which areas around the world you have looked at but from my point of view, tagging the grounds is clearly not an outlier method of tagging but is completely valid. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?
Cool, thanks for the examples! To clarify, I didn't say that method was invalid, I was saying that it didn't look very common to me. From what you sent, it appears I may be wrong about that. :) So, it looks like there are two distinct approaches to using the amenity=place_of_worship tag: 1) limiting it to the place of worship itself usually a building, and 2) using it for the entire grounds a la amenity=school. To circle back to the point of this thread, the question is if someone follows method 1, what is the recommended way to tag the grounds? There is usage and wiki documentation of landuse=religious. Martin also mentioned putting religion=* and operator=* (and maybe other tags that apply, like amenity=monastery for a monastery) on a way around the area. On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com wrote: Besides, I don't think we need to be quite literal with place_of_worship only being tagged for the actual specific object where one does worshiping. I hear what you're saying, but with a tag that's used 600K times (on 226K ways), we have to look at actual usage for part of our guidance. *Totally* unscientific, but I used overpass turbo to zoom in on multiple areas around the world and look at ways that are tagged amenity=place_of_worship, and the vast majority appeared to be building outlines. Using it for the grounds seems like an outlier. (if someone else wants to do more robust research, I'd be happy to see it! :) So, while using place of worship for the grounds may be correct in certain case, in the majority of cases, the common usage seems to leave a question about how to tag the grounds. Places where the grounds are tagged with amenity=place_of_worship and not just the main building: Tokyo, Japan: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/4gi Manila, Philippines: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/4gj Singapore: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/4gk Beijing, China: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/4gl Bangalore, India: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/4gm Bangkok, Thailand: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/4gn I don't know which areas around the world you have looked at but from my point of view, tagging the grounds is clearly not an outlier method of tagging but is completely valid. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?
Am 18/lug/2014 um 23:07 schrieb Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com: maybe other tags that apply, like amenity=monastery for a monastery there is also community proposed by FrViPofm http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:community the proposed values are a bit atypical for osm, as they are all abbreviated, but it is an extensive list of Christian communities. cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Synonymous values in the shop key
Am 7/16/14 23:32 , schrieb Bryan Housel: Oddly we have the mostly standard `craft=brewery`: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:craft%3Dbrewery … but winery tagging is fragmented. It was probably created before the craft key got much usage. I think there should be shop=wine and craft=winery. If you have a winery that sells wine then that should just be an additional key indicating that (Is there actually a global key for that? Seems somthing that you could apply for a lot of different POIs) __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AndiG88 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?
On Jul 17, 2014, at 5:46 PM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: I'm surprised about this discussion. Think that amenity=place_of_worship has to be treated like amenity=school. Nobody is asking to create a landuse=school because it is rendered properly on the main osm style Besides this discussion of Landuse=religion, This comment help me refine my thinking about landuses. Perhaps I need to explain my thinking. I DO want landuse=education, Just like landuse=civic, and landuse=religious. Why? Because when I first started tagging in OSM (which wasn't too long ago), I mapped retail, commercial, residential in my town. I skipped schools and the harder stuff because it wasn't clear to me, as a new tagger, how to handle these. So when tagging a business, a mall, or a apartment building, you map the area it covers using landuse, add parking lots and other amenities on top, and put the buildings in and tag the buildings with their use (offices, house, apartment, etc) and name the landuse with the place name, and the building with the building or business name (City Office Park= Bob's cleaners / City Mall = McDonalds / City Apartments = building 4 ). This format is really easy for a new beginner to understand. ___parking___ ##building### landuse [side view of a common mapping of a single business] You then tag amenities and other things that the the landuse or the building or outline other areas (parking, gardens, grass, pools, etc) that the principal landuse has. A pool is lesiure item at the Apartment complex, Parking is an amenity for the business, etc. But becuase OSM's tagging system has grown organically, The landuse category for this style of tagging is incomplete for some categories - Religion, Civic, and Education, and (I think?) Landuse=transportation is disused too for stations, etc). I want fo fill out these landuses and make OSM more consistent. long time taggers may be comfortable with the inconsistency in the system, but we need to make the tagging more logical, and less of a chore to determine what tagging theory is applied to what category - currently they are all jumbled up. The wiki shouldn't need a chart to describe how to tag a school - it should be like a business. but it does, because amenity=school on the area is an unexpected hack because landuse=education was never made. Same with City office complexes and temples/churches. If our goal in the tagging mailing list is to improve the OSM tagging scheme, adding needed tags and simplifying the scheme should be high priorities - it would allow us to have more newbie taggers (like myself?) be able to tag the basic things around them without having to live inside the wiki to learn the arbitrary rules and customs for that particular item - when 99% of everything in a city is just a landuse and a building. And from the perspective of a motivated newbie, it sure as hell seems needlessly arbitrary - especially with the amenity tag masquerading as a landuse. Javbw ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] British English Spelling shop=jewelry
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 11:55 PM, Jesse B. Crawford je...@jbcrawford.us wrote: Something I've noticed as an American that works with many foreign nationals is that the majority of people who learn English in a foreign country seem to learn British English - my sample may be biased since I work with a lot of people from India, which is a former colony, but amongst people from China and Germany for example I am also used to seeing the British spellings. FWIW, the Philippines is a former U.S. colony and we also use American English spelling here (mostly). ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] IR boundary tagging
OK, given pnroman's git maps, and recent court cases, where's the problem in my proposed tagging of indian nations, overlapping states but below the US proper? On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: Looks about right. So...what's the issue? On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: On 2014-06-25 3:36 PM, Steve All wrote: Paul Norman wrote: I took TIGER data and produced data showing what some states would look like: https://gist.github.com/pnorman/30244b2984216285735d Those are truly excellent visualizations, Paul. Thank you for producing them. Whether right or wrong this shows the power of a little bit of OSM, a little bit of geojson magic, and a little bit of what if? Nice! SteveA California In case anyone was wondering how I produced these, I loaded the TIGER state and reserve shapefiles into a postgis database, created a new table with reserves subtracted from each state, used ogr2ogr to pull out data state by state into a geojson with simplification, and uploaded to github as a gist. I opted not to use OSM data because it was both too large when I only needed states, and many reserves are not yet in OSM. Additionally, at the level of detail I was after, I knew that TIGER would have no issues. ___ Talk-us mailing list talk...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] IR boundary tagging
I should add that I do not intend on changing state boundaries, just mapping indian nations where I know the boundaries to lie on the ground, as higher than state, lower than the country, inside the US only, if that wasn't clear on the admin level argument. It would still be possible to render a map without such excluded territory at a state level, since, in practice, there's a LOT of overlap in responsibilities and jurisdiction. On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: OK, given pnroman's git maps, and recent court cases, where's the problem in my proposed tagging of indian nations, overlapping states but below the US proper? On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: Looks about right. So...what's the issue? On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: On 2014-06-25 3:36 PM, Steve All wrote: Paul Norman wrote: I took TIGER data and produced data showing what some states would look like: https://gist.github.com/pnorman/30244b2984216285735d Those are truly excellent visualizations, Paul. Thank you for producing them. Whether right or wrong this shows the power of a little bit of OSM, a little bit of geojson magic, and a little bit of what if? Nice! SteveA California In case anyone was wondering how I produced these, I loaded the TIGER state and reserve shapefiles into a postgis database, created a new table with reserves subtracted from each state, used ogr2ogr to pull out data state by state into a geojson with simplification, and uploaded to github as a gist. I opted not to use OSM data because it was both too large when I only needed states, and many reserves are not yet in OSM. Additionally, at the level of detail I was after, I knew that TIGER would have no issues. ___ Talk-us mailing list talk...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
