Re: [Tagging] How to tag entire group of rentable holiday cottages?

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

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> On 16. Dec 2020, at 14:44, Martin Koppenhoefer  wrote:
> 
> https://huettenpalast.de/


meant to post this 
https://hostelgeeks.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/hafentraum-indoorcampinghostel-best-hostels-in-germany.jpg

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Re: [Tagging] How to tag entire group of rentable holiday cottages?

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

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> On 16. Dec 2020, at 04:07, Graeme Fitzpatrick  wrote:
> 
> Individual as 1 cabin per site, or, as Mateusz raised, multiple cabins on one 
> site?


even multiple cabins in one building 
https://huettenpalast.de/
#nothreadwithoutanedgecase
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Re: [Tagging] How to tag entire group of rentable holiday cottages?

[Paul Allen]

On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 03:07, Graeme Fitzpatrick 
wrote:

>
> On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 at 23:55, Paul Allen  wrote:
>
>>
>> 1) Holiday cottages are rarely building=cabin, they are mostly
>> building=house.
>>
>
> May depend on where you are? I know of a number of places that advertise
> cottages / cabins eg http://lyrebirdspringbrook.com/index.html
>

Cabins as holiday cottages may be common in your part of the world but
in my part they're rare.  This is a holiday cottage around the corner
from me: http://maenayron.co.uk/accomodation/  And these are
a group of six holiday cottages in converted farm buildings:
https://www.trenewydd.com/

One around the corner from me is a former house
>> that has been converted to a holiday let.  Even the ones on farms
>> are converted stone barns, converted stone stables, etc.
>>
>
> Shouldn't they then stay as their original type of building? From the
> buildings page:  the value may be used to classify the type of building.
> Note that it may be not the same as the building's current use (tagged
> using building:use 
> =*). For example, a hospital building that is abandoned or repurposed to
> be a marketplace is still a building=hospital
> 
>

Indeed.  building=house + tourism=chalet or building=barn + tourism=chalet
or building=cabin + tourism=chalet, depending on the original building type.

>
>
>> 2) A farm which has converted some of its buildings to
>> holiday cottages will have a mix of building types.  Mappers
>> who wish to go into details would prefer to see the
>> individual holiday cottages rendered distinctly (as
>> they currently are).
>>
>
> But building=yes + name=xxx will still render sufficiently, won't it?
>

Apart from the icon.  Which, if you're looking at a map of the area looking
for places to stay is kinda important.  Just building and name is
indistinguishable from any other building with a name.  See
https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=52.08485=-4.65761#map=18/52.08485/-4.65761

>
> 3) This scheme has problems with individual holiiday
>> cottages, such as the one around the corner from me,
>> unless you retain tourism=chalet for such cases.
>>
>
> Individual as 1 cabin per site, or, as Mateusz raised, multiple cabins on
> one site?
>

Individual as 1 cabin per site.  As in a working farm that has converted
just
one of its outbuildings to a holiday cottage.  As in an ordinary house in a
row of houses that is operated as a holiday cottage.

I can understand some mappers may not want to add multiple holiday
cottages on a single site and want a short cut.  I'm happy with that
as long as it doesn't preclude adding them as individual cottages later.
Some sort of grouping tag is desirable for searchability using
Nominatim.  Some sort of grouping tag is desirable for rendering.
But I'd like to be able to present a usable representation of a
site with multiple holiday cottages so that consumers can tell
what is and isn't a holiday cottage without having to cross-refer
with a website or facebook page.  Such as here
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/52.10789/-4.61545

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Re: [Tagging] How to tag entire group of rentable holiday cottages?

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 at 23:55, Paul Allen  wrote:

>
> 1) Holiday cottages are rarely building=cabin, they are mostly
> building=house.
>

May depend on where you are? I know of a number of places that advertise
cottages / cabins eg http://lyrebirdspringbrook.com/index.html

One around the corner from me is a former house
> that has been converted to a holiday let.  Even the ones on farms
> are converted stone barns, converted stone stables, etc.
>

Shouldn't they then stay as their original type of building? From the
buildings page:  the value may be used to classify the type of building.
Note that it may be not the same as the building's current use (tagged
using building:use =*).
For example, a hospital building that is abandoned or repurposed to be a
marketplace is still a building=hospital



> 2) A farm which has converted some of its buildings to
> holiday cottages will have a mix of building types.  Mappers
> who wish to go into details would prefer to see the
> individual holiday cottages rendered distinctly (as
> they currently are).
>

But building=yes + name=xxx will still render sufficiently, won't it?

3) This scheme has problems with individual holiiday
> cottages, such as the one around the corner from me,
> unless you retain tourism=chalet for such cases.
>

Individual as 1 cabin per site, or, as Mateusz raised, multiple cabins on
one site?

 4) There are a lot of tourism=chalet.  Are you proposing we bulk edit them?
>

Nope!

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Re: [Tagging] How to tag entire group of rentable holiday cottages?

[Paul Allen]

On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 at 21:07, Jmapb  wrote:

[On distributed motel cabins]

> No indeed it does not. I would be uncomfortable using the tourism=motel
> tag on any establishment with a minimum week stay, kitchens or no. Even a
> 2-night minimum at a motel would wrinkle my brow.
>
There might be individual cases where the lines blur, but mostly holiday
cottages operate on a very different basis to motels.  So tourism=motel
doesn't fit, as we both agree.

> For Canllefaes, I'd be happy enough with leisure=resort.
>
I wouldn't.  Maybe there's a difference between UK and US understanding
of the term resort.

In the UK a holiday resort is in many ways similar to a large village.
Many residences.  On-site facilities usually include some or all of
a pub, a fast-food diner, a restaurant, a night club/disco, maybe a
cinema, a convenience store, an amusement arcade, amusement
rides.  You can get everything you need (except experience the
surrounding area) without leaving the grounds.  Usually
the facilities are open to non-guests but guests may get
discounted prices and or priority access (such as free
rides on the big dipper and the privilege of getting on
the ride ahead of non-guests).  Given on-site
fast food and restaurant, catering in the
accommodations may be limited to kettle,
toaster and maybe microwave.  In some ways
there are similarities between a docked cruise ship
and a holiday resort.

A group of five or six holiday cottages that are converted
farm buildings don't justify that sort of investment in
infrastructure.  You might get a playground with a slide
and swings.  Maybe even a swimming pool (those
are rare and Canllefaes is an exception).  Maybe,
if there are a dozen holiday cottages then a small
convenience store (which may also serve a nearby
hamlet).  There's not the room in a farmyard to
put more holiday cottages (and planning permission
would be withheld even if there were room).  So
the facilities I'd expect at a holiday resort won't
be there.

We might find a case or two where the boundary is blurred,
but mostly leisure=resort (as I understand resort) doesn't
fit.

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Re: [Tagging] How to tag entire group of rentable holiday cottages?

[Paul Allen]

On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 at 08:53, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <
tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:

>
> Dec 15, 2020, 03:33 by graemefi...@gmail.com:
>
> How about tagging the whole area as tourism=chalet + name=Foo Cottages +
> capacity=25
> then tagging each individual cottage / cabin as either
> building=cabin / bungalow + name=xxx?
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:building%3Dcabin
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:building%3Dbungalow
>
>
> I am fine with that and I plan to restore this tagging recommendation
> unless someone will proposed a better one.
>

I see four problems with it.

1) Holiday cottages are rarely building=cabin, they are mostly
building=house.  One around the corner from me is a former house
that has been converted to a holiday let.  Even the ones on farms
are converted stone barns, converted stone stables, etc.

2) A farm which has converted some of its buildings to
holiday cottages will have a mix of building types.  Mappers
who wish to go into details would prefer to see the
individual holiday cottages rendered distinctly (as
they currently are).

3) This scheme has problems with individual holiiday
cottages, such as the one around the corner from me,
unless you retain tourism=chalet for such cases.  But
then we end up with two ways of tagging individual
cottages in a group with different renderings.

4) There are a lot of tourism=chalet.  Are you proposing
we bulk edit them?

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Re: [Tagging] How to tag entire group of rentable holiday cottages?

[John Sturdy]

How about "holiday park"?  A google search for that brings up some caravan
parks but also some with chalets / "lodges".


On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 8:53 AM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <
tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:

>
>
>
> Dec 15, 2020, 03:33 by graemefi...@gmail.com:
>
> On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 at 21:28, Paul Allen  wrote:
>
>
> I can't think of an English term, other than "holiday cottages."  These
> places
> generally call themselves "Foo Holiday Cottages" or "Foo Holidays" or
> "Foo Farm Cottages" or things like that.
>
>
> I'm with Paul for Holiday Cottages.
>
> How about tagging the whole area as tourism=chalet + name=Foo Cottages +
> capacity=25
> then tagging each individual cottage / cabin as either
> building=cabin / bungalow + name=xxx?
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:building%3Dcabin
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:building%3Dbungalow
>
>
> I am fine with that and I plan to restore this tagging recommendation
> unless someone will proposed a better one.
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Re: [Tagging] How to tag entire group of rentable holiday cottages?

[Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging]

Dec 15, 2020, 03:33 by graemefi...@gmail.com:

> On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 at 21:28, Paul Allen <> pla16...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
>>
>> I can't think of an English term, other than "holiday cottages."  These 
>> places
>> generally call themselves "Foo Holiday Cottages" or "Foo Holidays" or
>> "Foo Farm Cottages" or things like that.
>>
>
> I'm with Paul for Holiday Cottages.
>
> How about tagging the whole area as tourism=chalet + name=Foo Cottages + 
> capacity=25
> then tagging each individual cottage / cabin as either
> building=cabin / bungalow + name=xxx?
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:building%3Dcabin
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:building%3Dbungalow
>
>

I am fine with that and I plan to restore this tagging recommendation
unless someone will proposed a better one.
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Re: [Tagging] How to tag entire group of rentable holiday cottages?

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 at 21:28, Paul Allen  wrote:

> I can't think of an English term, other than "holiday cottages."  These
> places
> generally call themselves "Foo Holiday Cottages" or "Foo Holidays" or
> "Foo Farm Cottages" or things like that.
>

I'm with Paul for Holiday Cottages.

How about tagging the whole area as tourism=chalet + name=Foo Cottages +
capacity=25
then tagging each individual cottage / cabin as either
building=cabin / bungalow + name=xxx?

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:building%3Dcabin

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:building%3Dbungalow

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Re: [Tagging] How to tag entire group of rentable holiday cottages?

[Jmapb]

On 12/14/2020 3:11 PM, Paul Allen wrote:


I'd expect a motel to be set up to handle very short duration (one or two
day) at very short notice (turn up and ask for a room) and to offer
meals unless there are diners/restaurants nearby...



Take a look at https://www.canllefaes.com/
 and note the
requirement that occupancy start/end on a Saturday,
that the cottages have kitchens, etc., and tell me if
that fits into your model of a motel with distributed
cabins.


No indeed it does not. I would be uncomfortable using the tourism=motel
tag on any establishment with a minimum week stay, kitchens or no. Even
a 2-night minimum at a motel would wrinkle my brow.

For Canllefaes, I'd be happy enough with leisure=resort.

(By the way, I would generally *not* expect a motel to offer food beyond
coffee and packaged snacks, though many of them share a parking lot with
a restaurant or fast food.)

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Re: [Tagging] How to tag entire group of rentable holiday cottages?

[Paul Allen]

On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 at 20:38, Joseph Eisenberg 
wrote:

> I suppose we also lack a way to distinguish extended-stay hotels which are
> designed for 1 week to multi-month stays;
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apartment_hotel
>

If it's a single building, maybe it's still a hotel.  Maybe some refining
tags could be added.  Maybe it needs a new value.  Maybe it's not
even tourism.

Things always end up being complicated.  The only way the extended stay
hotel could get more complicated is if it was composed of distributed
cabins.

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Re: [Tagging] How to tag entire group of rentable holiday cottages?

[Joseph Eisenberg]

I suppose we also lack a way to distinguish extended-stay hotels which are
designed for 1 week to multi-month stays;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apartment_hotel

" There are currently 27 extended stay chains in North America with at
least 7 hotels, representing over 2,000 properties.[*citation needed
*] There is
substantial variation among extended stay hotels with respect to quality
and the amenities available. Some of the economy chains attract clientele
who use the hotels as semi-permanent lodging. Extended-stay hotels
typically have self-serve laundry facilities and offer discounts for
extended stays, beginning at 5 or 7 days. They also have guestrooms (or
"suites") with kitchens. The kitchens include at a minimum usually: a sink,
a refrigerator (usually full size), a microwave oven, and a stovetop. Some
kitchens also have dishwashers and conventional ovens. Extended stay hotels
are aimed at business travelers on extended assignments, families in the
midst of a relocation, and others in need of temporary housing."

-- Joseph Eisenberg

On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 12:14 PM Paul Allen  wrote:

> On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 at 19:41, Jmapb  wrote:
>
>>
>> At least In the rural USA, there's a continuum between motels that have
>> an array of rentable rooms in one or two buildings and those where each
>> room is an individual cabin, or sometimes half of a duplex cabin. It's
>> common to see motels offering both styles of accommodation.
>>
>
> I don't think tourism=chalet fits that distributed motel cabin model.
>
> I'd expect a motel to be set up to handle very short duration (one or two
> day) at very short notice (turn up and ask for a room) and to offer
> meals unless there are diners/restaurants nearby.  Groups of
> holiday cottages are generally longer duration (minimum one week
> except by special arrangement) and generally longer notice
> (usually months, although there may be last-minute deals
> if they have a cancellation).  Holiday cottages are self-catering.
> You can go to a restaurant or diner but you have fairly
> comprehensive cooking facilities (more than just a microwave).
>
> I know that there are blurry edges to everything, but I can't
> fit a group of holiday cottages into my mental model of a hotel.
> Take a look at https://www.canllefaes.com/ and note the
> requirement that occupancy start/end on a Saturday,
> that the cottages have kitchens, etc., and tell me if
> that fits into your model of a motel with distributed
> cabins.
>
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Re: [Tagging] How to tag entire group of rentable holiday cottages?

[Paul Allen]

On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 at 19:41, Jmapb  wrote:

>
> At least In the rural USA, there's a continuum between motels that have
> an array of rentable rooms in one or two buildings and those where each
> room is an individual cabin, or sometimes half of a duplex cabin. It's
> common to see motels offering both styles of accommodation.
>

I don't think tourism=chalet fits that distributed motel cabin model.

I'd expect a motel to be set up to handle very short duration (one or two
day) at very short notice (turn up and ask for a room) and to offer
meals unless there are diners/restaurants nearby.  Groups of
holiday cottages are generally longer duration (minimum one week
except by special arrangement) and generally longer notice
(usually months, although there may be last-minute deals
if they have a cancellation).  Holiday cottages are self-catering.
You can go to a restaurant or diner but you have fairly
comprehensive cooking facilities (more than just a microwave).

I know that there are blurry edges to everything, but I can't
fit a group of holiday cottages into my mental model of a hotel.
Take a look at https://www.canllefaes.com/ and note the
requirement that occupancy start/end on a Saturday,
that the cottages have kitchens, etc., and tell me if
that fits into your model of a motel with distributed
cabins.

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Re: [Tagging] How to tag entire group of rentable holiday cottages?

[Jmapb]

I've been using tourism=motel for these, if there are no other features
that would tip them into leisure=resort.

At least In the rural USA, there's a continuum between motels that have
an array of rentable rooms in one or two buildings and those where each
room is an individual cabin, or sometimes half of a duplex cabin. It's
common to see motels offering both styles of accommodation.

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Re: [Tagging] How to tag entire group of rentable holiday cottages?

[Paul Allen]

On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 at 10:57, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <
tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:

So my questions are: what is the UK (or English in general) word for
> location with group
> of holiday cottages?
>

I can't think of an English term, other than "holiday cottages."  These
places
generally call themselves "Foo Holiday Cottages" or "Foo Holidays" or
"Foo Farm Cottages" or things like that.


> Especially group of them in a fenced area, with shared amenities
>

There isn't anything I can think of, other than holiday cottages (plural).

such as restaurant/cafeteria,
>

Far too grandiose.  For starters, the whole idea of holiday cottages is
that they are self-catering.  A restaurant or cafeteria is something
you'd find at a resort.  Occasionally I've seen a farm conversion
which has a B and a couple of holiday cottages where the
B could provide meals by special arrangement, but that's
rare.


> firepit,
>

Firepit, barbeque, swimming pool, fishing pond are all things I've
seen with a group of holiday cottages.


> maybe sauna or lake access.
>

I've not seen a sauna.  A couple of hot tubs (we don't have a good
official way to tag them as the wiki recommendation of Jacuzzi is
a registered trademark).  I'd say a sauna is highly unusual for
holiday cottages in the UK, but might be common in Nordic
countries.

>
> But without extensive entertainment infrastructure that would qualify for
> leisure=resort.
>

Also without the restaurant/cafe you suggested.

>
> Would it be a good idea to revert this two edits and fully restore
> recommendation
> to use tourism=chalet for group of chalets?
>

I would say it's a bad idea for tourism=chalet to apply to both
individual holiday cottages and to groupings.  It makes it harder
to figure out how many there are.  A building tagged with it might
be an individual holiday cottage but I've seen a long barn converted
to three holiday cottages.  A number of buildings within an outline
might all be holiday cottages or a couple of holiday cottages and a
couple of farm buildings.

Or maybe we need a new tag?
>

I think we need a new tag.  Either a boundary or a relation.

Note also that there may be hybrids.  Just as we've come to the
realization that caravan parks may allow some tents and camping
grounds may allow some caravans, some farms offer holiday cottages
and camping.  It gets messy.

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Re: [Tagging] How to tag entire group of rentable holiday cottages?

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Dec 14, 2020, 10:07 by marius...@gmail.com:

> On 14.12.2020 07:19, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote:
>
>>
>> There are cases where there is group of multiple holiday cottages,
>>
>> each rentable independently. I know about cases with just 2 and big groups, 
>> 25 in one place.
>>
>> How it should be tagged?
>>
>> I found https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dchalet
>> that is for a single one.
>>
>
> There is an old edit error present on this page. The "This could apply to 
> nodes (single chalet) or areas (a group of chalets)." is incorrectly placed 
> in "Tags used in combination" instead of "How to map" chapter.
>
> See the old version, just before "Tags used in combination"" was added - > 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:tourism%3Dchalet=1296833
>
I fixed this edit.

I spotted two more:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:tourism%3Dchalet=prev=1448037
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:tourism%3Dchalet=prev=1249899

that discouraged using this tag for group of them.

So my questions are: what is the UK (or English in general) word for location 
with group
of holiday cottages? Especially group of them in a fenced area, with shared 
amenities 
such as restaurant/cafeteria, firepit, maybe sauna or lake access.

But without extensive entertainment infrastructure that would qualify for 
leisure=resort.

Would it be a good idea to revert this two edits and fully restore 
recommendation
to use tourism=chalet for group of chalets?

Or maybe we need a new tag?
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Re: [Tagging] How to tag entire group of rentable holiday cottages?

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> On 14. Dec 2020, at 09:46, Paul Allen  wrote:
> 
> Yes, that's for one.  But there is nothing for a group,  Operator on each
> ties them together loosely, but it would be nice to have a relation or
> a boundary for them that could be rendered as a name for the grouping,
> would have a link to the web site for the whole enterprise, etc.  It would
> also make the operator name findable with Nominatim.


type=group?

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Re: [Tagging] How to tag entire group of rentable holiday cottages?

[Mariusz]

On 14.12.2020 07:19, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote:


There are cases where there is group of multiple holiday cottages,

each rentable independently. I know about cases with just 2 and big 
groups, 25 in one place.


How it should be tagged?

I found https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dchalet
that is for a single one.


There is an old edit error present on this page. The "This could apply 
to nodes (single chalet) or areas (a group of chalets)." is incorrectly 
placed in "Tags used in combination" instead of "How to map" chapter.


See the old version, just before "Tags used in combination"" was added - 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:tourism%3Dchalet=1296833


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Re: [Tagging] How to tag entire group of rentable holiday cottages?

[Paul Allen]

On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 at 06:22, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <
tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:

> There are cases where there is group of multiple holiday cottages,
> each rentable independently. I know about cases with just 2 and big
> groups, 25 in one place.
>

I know many of those.  It happens around here when a farmer decides it's
more profitable to farm humans than animals so converts outbuildings
to holiday cottages.  Sometimes with names reflecting their former
usage (The Barn, The Dairy, etc).

> How it should be tagged?
> I found https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dchalet
> that is for a single one.
>

Yes, that's for one.  But there is nothing for a group,  Operator on each
ties them together loosely, but it would be nice to have a relation or
a boundary for them that could be rendered as a name for the grouping,
would have a link to the web site for the whole enterprise, etc.  It would
also make the operator name findable with Nominatim.

>
> Tagging 25 tourism=chalet independently is sill when they form
> single object, not 25 separate ones.
>

I would still tag them independently, so that people can see which building
is Chestnut Cottage, Oak Cottage, etc.  Also so as to distinguish holiday
cottages from unconverted farm buildings (some of the farms around
here still operate as farms but have converted only two or three of
many farm buildings).  But mappers could leave the buildings untagged
if they were unsure or didn't want to put too much time into it.

If we go for a relation rather than a boundary there would be a need for
other
roles. Some places have a playground, or a games building, or a common
building for laundry, or a soccer pitch, or a barbeque area, or a swimming
pool, or
a miniature railway (yes, I've mapped a miniature railway at a group of
holiday
cottages), etc.

leisure=resort doesn't fit.  At least not as it's described in the wiki.
There may be no other recreational features at all, just accommodation.
If there are recreational features they are (usually) only for those
staying at the accommodation and not available to the general
public.

In some ways the concept resembles a small static caravan park
but with buildings rather than static caravans.

-- 
Paul
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Re: [Tagging] How to tag entire group of rentable holiday cottages?

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

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> On 14. Dec 2020, at 07:22, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging 
>  wrote:
> 
> There are cases where there is group of multiple holiday cottages,
> 
> each rentable independently. I know about cases with just 2 and big groups, 
> 25 in one place.


leisure=resort?

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Re: [Tagging] How to tag entire group of rentable holiday cottages?

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 at 16:22, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <
tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:

>
> Tagging 25 tourism=chalet independently is sill when they form
> single object, not 25 separate ones.
>

Are they cottages number 1 - 25 on the same camp site, or individual
chalets located close to each other?

Thanks

Graeme
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[Tagging] How to tag entire group of rentable holiday cottages?

[Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging]

There are cases where there is group of multiple holiday cottages,

each rentable independently. I know about cases with just 2 and big groups, 25 
in one place.

How it should be tagged?

I found https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dchalet
that is for a single one.

Tagging 25 tourism=chalet independently is sill when they form
single object, not 25 separate ones.
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