Re: F-8

2015-05-29 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
I guess my only issue with f8 is that I'm not comfortable that I am at the 
start where I want to copy, and that everything I want to copy, will copy.


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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 9:23 PM
To: Brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: F-8

So far, I have found the F8 method of copying something to be Hit and
Miss.  Or I get a parchal copy of something, or I copy something I
never intended to copy.

I keep thinking it is me who is doing something incorrectly, but
since I seem to end up with questionable results more than even a
Bone Head like me should suffer, I have to start thinking something
is not quite right with the F8 method.

I am thinking it may have something to do with when the Web Site page
changes, because there is now an Ad that popped up, or some other
Animation has started moving around, just maybe this sort of Web
movement messes with the new method of copying text.

Just a guess on my part, since I am still not convinced I am always
using the feature as it was meant to be used.

Sometimes it works as it should and other times nothing even happens.

At 04:30 PM 5/28/2015, you wrote:
Can anyone say they get constant results using the F-8 method? I sure 
don't! Especially when trying to copy a link or text in email. I use 
Windows Mail

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Abbyy finereader

2015-05-29 Thread via Talk
Can you be morespecific -- what does not work for you in Abbyy
finereader -- I have 12, so I can only test that.

Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

 Ahhh! This email remind me something. Please better support for Abby-fine 
 reader V11 and V12 respectively.
 
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 Of Don H via Talk
 Sent: Thursday, 28 May 2015 21:45
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 Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input
 
 A WE app to make one of the off the shelf OCR programs more accessible.
 
 On 5/28/2015 2:32 PM, Jeremy Curry via Talk wrote:
  Hello Everyone,
 
  We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If 
  you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our 
  screen reading product, what would they be?
 
  Thanks for the input!
 
  Jeremy
 
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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread David Goldfield via Talk
As I'm adding a fifth suggestion to my initial list, does this mean I'm 
pleading the fifth?


Seriously, I totally agree with this request about support for 
LibreOffice. I realize that AI Squared is partnering with Microsoft. I 
realize that Microsoft Office is a major Microsoft product and, for many 
reasons, it is essential that Window-Eyes remains better than 
competitive by offering the best access to Office as we can get. I get 
that and agree with it. However, one of the reasons for why I broke down 
and purchased Office 365 at home was because, if I'm going to be honest, 
Office offers me the best accessibility for document creation and 
editing. I'm sure Microsoft is quite pleased with this fact. I also feel 
no malice toward them for their products or for the way they are being 
marketed and distributed. The fact is that Microsoft Word is a darn good 
product, is used by a lot of people and screen readers need to support 
it. However, Office should not be the only choice available to us. Some 
people just can't afford it. Some can but don't feel that they should 
have to pay for a decent word processor and I'm in that camp. I love the 
philosophy of open source, not just because many open source packages 
are free but because they are written and supported by a community, 
rather than a corporation, which has some advantages over Microsoft 
Word. Although Window-Eyes isn't such a product, the scripting/app 
development aspect brings that community involvement to Window-Eyes and 
you guys do it better than your competition. Having said that, we need 
to see equal support for LibreOffice, or at least as much as can be 
implemented if there are limitations caused by the software. I can tell 
you that the Document Foundation, which produces and distributes 
LibreOffice, is interested in accessibility-related feedback and would 
probably be happy to work with AI Squared in helping to make Window-Eyes 
work just as well with Writer as it does with Word. This would open up 
good word processing to many more of your users and would make 
Window-Eyes stand apart from the competition if we could have the same 
level of support with LibreOffice/OpenOffice as we do with Word.



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On 5/29/2015 2:54 AM, Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk wrote:

Hi Jeremy,

My wish list include:

1. Better support for Mozilla products especially Thunderbird Mail (basically 
mouse navigation)
2. the ability to import/export window-eyes settings
3. better support for non-microsoft products such as open office and Liber 
office so we the end users have better choice.
4. better labelling graphics capability (the insert+g when finish labelling 
does not tells you how many labels it found and how many manage to really label 
them).
5. better support for the most three used programming languages  packages used 
today.


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Sent: Thursday, 28 May 2015 21:33
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you 
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen 
reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread David Goldfield via Talk

Here are my ideas/requests for possible Window-Eyes enhancements.
1. The ability to run Window-Eyes completely off of a thumb drive 
without the need to install drivers onto the host system. (If this is 
already possible, please let me know.
2. An offline dictionary with thesaurus. I realize that some people will 
passionately disagree with this request by saying that this is not a 
screen-reader specific feature and that we have many online options for 
word definitions and synonyms. These statements are all true and so 
there's no need to debate that. However, this is something that would 
still make Window-Eyes not only useful but unique as I don't believe 
this is available in other Windows screen readers. This could be an 
optional component to be installed and, like the Mac, could be globally 
available, even without an Internet connection. I could envision being 
in a Word document or a Web page, placing the cursor on a word without 
the need to highlight it first and being able to look up definitions and 
such with the press of a hotkey. Again, perhaps this is hardly necessary 
but it would make Window-Eyes stand out from the competition.
3. The ability to enter BIOs/Uefi settings and have them accessible. 
Maybe it's not possible. However, some might have concluded that screen 
readers would never be able to talk in safe mode and Window-Eyes can 
offer that capability, which is one of the things which makes it truly 
unique and which makes it stand apart from its competition. If AI 
Squared could offer this feature you'd be able to do this even more.


And if I may sneak in a fourth idea ...

4. Could we please have built-in voices from other text-to-speech 
vendors, such as Ivona or A Capella? This is totally irrational but as 
much as I don't mind Samantha on my iPhone I don't care for her as much 
on my Windows PC and I'd like to see some additional alternatives.


Thanks for asking for our input.



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On 5/29/2015 2:58 AM, Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk wrote:

Ahhh! This email remind me something. Please better support for Abby-fine 
reader V11 and V12 respectively.

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Don H via Talk
Sent: Thursday, 28 May 2015 21:45
To: Jeremy Curry; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

A WE app to make one of the off the shelf OCR programs more accessible.

On 5/28/2015 2:32 PM, Jeremy Curry via Talk wrote:

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you 
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen 
reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread via Talk
If you use the alternate help request you do not need to forward any
ports, its left to the helper to do that.

christopher hallsworth via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

 Hi all
 
 Ok I will jump in here and say Remote Assistance needs to be much easier to 
 use without the hassle of forwarding ports at both ends. When Remote 
 Assistance was introduced in Window-Eyes 7.5, it was very easy to use. Now, 
 thanks to a later update to the 7.5 series which updated Remote Assistance, 
 it is not so. Some clients would not have a clue about port forwarding.
 
 Thanks for reading.
  On 29 May 2015, at 00:25, Bill Belew via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com 
  wrote:
  
  I would like to see Remote Assistance made more reliable.  It rarely works
  for me any longer.  
  
  I would also like to see support for touch screens.  
  
  Bill
  
  
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  Behalf Of Jeremy Curry via Talk
  Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:33 PM
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  Subject: Seeking Your Input
  
  Hello Everyone,
  
  We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you
  could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen
  reading product, what would they be?
  
  Thanks for the input!
  
  Jeremy
  
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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk
Hi Jeremy,

My wish list include:

1. Better support for Mozilla products especially Thunderbird Mail (basically 
mouse navigation)
2. the ability to import/export window-eyes settings
3. better support for non-microsoft products such as open office and Liber 
office so we the end users have better choice.
4. better labelling graphics capability (the insert+g when finish labelling 
does not tells you how many labels it found and how many manage to really label 
them).
5. better support for the most three used programming languages  packages used 
today.


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On Behalf Of Jeremy Curry via Talk
Sent: Thursday, 28 May 2015 21:33
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you 
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen 
reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Klaus Vielhauer via Talk

Hello Jeremy,
1. Focus is frequently not on top of page when a webpage is opened which is 
very annoying.
2. The find command on webpages does not work when text is spoken and needs 
multiple actions.
3. Some links on webpages are not recognized as a link until you position 
the cursor on it and press enter.

Regards
Klaus

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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk
Ahhh! This email remind me something. Please better support for Abby-fine 
reader V11 and V12 respectively.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Don H via Talk
Sent: Thursday, 28 May 2015 21:45
To: Jeremy Curry; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

A WE app to make one of the off the shelf OCR programs more accessible.

On 5/28/2015 2:32 PM, Jeremy Curry via Talk wrote:
 Hello Everyone,

 We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you 
 could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen 
 reading product, what would they be?

 Thanks for the input!

 Jeremy

 Jeremy Curry
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 Ai Squared, Inc.
 Phone: (802) 362-3612
 Email: jcu...@aisquared.commailto:jcu...@aisquared.com
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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Kathy Metters via Talk
  Number one choice to use f8 or control see when highlighting text on the 
Internet.
Number two a way of finding out where I am in a static  page on the Internet on 
websites  like barred Number three more support for editing tags in iTunes. 
Thanks.

Katie Lady Sent from my iPhone

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 talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you 
 could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen 
 reading product, what would they be?
 
 Thanks for the input!
 
 Jeremy
 
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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread net bat via Talk
this problem applys to most programs that use graphics. when you have  the 
program running and have to reload w e the message status will not speak 
until you reload the program.

wlm does this too.;

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From: M and L Dorn via Talk

Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 10:45 PM
To: AI Squared List Post
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Support for Eudora 7.1.0.9 that tons of people are still using.  The
graphics that say read unread and so on don't speak unless you shut
down WE, start Eudora, and THEN start WE again.  Using Control-Alt-W
for a restart of WE doesn't do it.

Thanks!
Marilyn
P.S.  I already sent this to Jeremy, but I thought the list should
see that there's yet another Eudora fan.

At 12:32 PM 5/28/2015, you wrote:

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If 
you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our 
screen reading product, what would they be?


Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Elizabeth via Talk
You did not mention JARTE. Have you tried using it as a Word 
Processor alternative to MS Word?


Elizabeth


At 02:54 AM 5/29/2015, you wrote:

Hi Jeremy,

My wish list include:

1. Better support for Mozilla products especially Thunderbird Mail 
(basically mouse navigation)

2. the ability to import/export window-eyes settings
3. better support for non-microsoft products such as open office and 
Liber office so we the end users have better choice.
4. better labelling graphics capability (the insert+g when finish 
labelling does not tells you how many labels it found and how many 
manage to really label them).
5. better support for the most three used programming 
languages  packages used today.



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Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our 
products.  If you could narrow down the top three requests you would 
have us add to our screen reading product, what would they be?


Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Rob via Talk
I love Jarte, myself. It works faster, more intuitively, and cleaner than 
Word I bought a copy of Jarte plus and haven't really looked any further for 
a rich text editor.

Now if only we could have an accessible epub editor...
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Subject: RE: Seeking Your Input


You did not mention JARTE. Have you tried using it as a Word Processor 
alternative to MS Word?


Elizabeth


At 02:54 AM 5/29/2015, you wrote:

Hi Jeremy,

My wish list include:

1. Better support for Mozilla products especially Thunderbird Mail 
(basically mouse navigation)

2. the ability to import/export window-eyes settings
3. better support for non-microsoft products such as open office and Liber 
office so we the end users have better choice.
4. better labelling graphics capability (the insert+g when finish 
labelling does not tells you how many labels it found and how many manage 
to really label them).
5. better support for the most three used programming languages  packages 
used today.



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Sent: Thursday, 28 May 2015 21:33
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If 
you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our 
screen reading product, what would they be?


Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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Ai Squared, Inc.
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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk

If I remember correctly, f8 goes back to the dos days.  Pam.

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From: Don H via Talk

Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 7:24 PM
To: Elizabeth ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

I actually find the F8 way of selecting text is just as good or better
than the old way of doing it.  I did change the hot key from F8 to Shift
down arrow.

On 5/28/2015 5:54 PM, Elizabeth via Talk wrote:

I absolutely agree.

Elizabeth

At 06:04 PM 5/28/2015, you wrote:

If I had to have one thing different, I really, really, really wish we
could go back to the old way of selecting text on a web page.  All of
the other screenreaders do it the standard way with the control and
shift and arrow keys.  I understand that the f8 selection method is
more of like a sighted person does it, but I've often found it to be
clunky at best.  Either that or it's operator error, I'm not sure. So
that's my idea. I don't know if selecting text relies on the way WE
reads a webpage, but it'd sure be nice to do it the same way all the
other major screenreaders do it.





On 5/28/2015 5:29 PM, Loy via Talk wrote:

AS a low vision user I would also like to have the ability to use the
physical mouse Like the earlier versions had.
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Subject: RE: Seeking Your Input



I loudly echo Reeva's comment on physical mouse support.  I'm still
on IE 8 and WE 8.4 at work and dread the point when we'll move to IE
11 because I rely on the physical mouse narration right now to deal
with aspects of my work.  (I'm on IE 11 and WE 9.1 at home.)


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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 1:39 PM
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Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Please,please, please low vision we users need using the physical
mouse to work again. One of the main reasons i chose we was that
y'all weren't strictly keyboard focused.

Reeva

On Thursday, May 28, 2015, Darrell Bowles via Talk 
talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:


y over all applications, and support for more applications  and easier
ways to make applications accessible by the user.Better support for
microsoft access  better stability

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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 3:32 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.
If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add
to our screen reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread via Talk
Agreed. Keep F8 and if you feel you need to, add the shift arrow selection
back on.

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Behalf Of Keith Hinton via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 6:46 PM
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Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

I do not want the f8 feature going away even though some users clearly
do in bbrowse mode. I prefer this.

On 5/28/15, Barbara via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:
 My 3 choices in no specific order are:

 Be able to read CAPTCHA Verification

 More stability with Office and internet explorer.  I have had more issues
 since version 9 of WE than I have in more than 20 years

 Most far fetched is a way for window-eyes to work with off the shelf
 products without a tech type creating special apps or set files etc.

 Barbara


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 Subject: Seeking Your Input

 Hello Everyone,

 We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If
 you
 could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our
 screen
 reading product, what would they be?

 Thanks for the input!

 Jeremy

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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Elizabeth via Talk
Have you tried Window-eyes with Jarte? If you Google it, you may find 
it serves your needs.


Elizabeth

At 03:37 AM 5/29/2015, you wrote:
As I'm adding a fifth suggestion to my initial list, does this mean 
I'm pleading the fifth?


Seriously, I totally agree with this request about support for 
LibreOffice. I realize that AI Squared is partnering with Microsoft. 
I realize that Microsoft Office is a major Microsoft product and, 
for many reasons, it is essential that Window-Eyes remains better 
than competitive by offering the best access to Office as we can 
get. I get that and agree with it. However, one of the reasons for 
why I broke down and purchased Office 365 at home was because, if 
I'm going to be honest, Office offers me the best accessibility for 
document creation and editing. I'm sure Microsoft is quite pleased 
with this fact. I also feel no malice toward them for their products 
or for the way they are being marketed and distributed. The fact is 
that Microsoft Word is a darn good product, is used by a lot of 
people and screen readers need to support it. However, Office should 
not be the only choice available to us. Some people just can't 
afford it. Some can but don't feel that they should have to pay for 
a decent word processor and I'm in that camp. I love the philosophy 
of open source, not just because many open source packages are free 
but because they are written and supported by a community, rather 
than a corporation, which has some advantages over Microsoft Word. 
Although Window-Eyes isn't such a product, the scripting/app 
development aspect brings that community involvement to Window-Eyes 
and you guys do it better than your competition. Having said that, 
we need to see equal support for LibreOffice, or at least as much as 
can be implemented if there are limitations caused by the software. 
I can tell you that the Document Foundation, which produces and 
distributes LibreOffice, is interested in accessibility-related 
feedback and would probably be happy to work with AI Squared in 
helping to make Window-Eyes work just as well with Writer as it does 
with Word. This would open up good word processing to many more of 
your users and would make Window-Eyes stand apart from the 
competition if we could have the same level of support with 
LibreOffice/OpenOffice as we do with Word.



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On 5/29/2015 2:54 AM, Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk wrote:

Hi Jeremy,

My wish list include:

1. Better support for Mozilla products especially Thunderbird Mail 
(basically mouse navigation)

2. the ability to import/export window-eyes settings
3. better support for non-microsoft products such as open office 
and Liber office so we the end users have better choice.
4. better labelling graphics capability (the insert+g when finish 
labelling does not tells you how many labels it found and how many 
manage to really label them).
5. better support for the most three used programming 
languages  packages used today.



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Sent: Thursday, 28 May 2015 21:33
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our 
products.  If you could narrow down the top three requests you 
would have us add to our screen reading product, what would they be?


Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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window eyes 1.0 demo

2015-05-29 Thread Josh K via Talk

hi
I got a copy of talking dosbox that outputs its speech through a screen 
reader controller client NVDA controller client, it also has windows3.1 
and text assist and window eyes 1.0 demo. My problem is that when i type

cd\windows

then i type

werun.bat

windows and window eyes loads but window eyes only reads its own window, 
and if I hit alt f4 it reads windows dialogs. like to close windows and 
return to dos. was wndows3.1 installed incorrectly in talking dosbox? If 
you don't want to continue the discussion of window eyes 1.0 demo on 
this list then feel free to come over to talking dosbox list at

talking-dosbox+subscr...@googlegroups.com

It is a pretty low traffic list. so far we got an old mega dots demo 
from 1994 working in it, and lotus 123 and some other unsupported 
software and lots of old dos games.


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RE: F-8

2015-05-29 Thread Chris Grabowski via Talk
Hi,
We need step by step examples of web pages, text you are trying to select etc.
Because the code used in the f8 method will be pretty much the same code when 
shift selection is brought back, in a specific situation if f8 fails, shift 
selection will most likely fail.

So please send step by step examples.
Here is an example.
1.  Using internet explorer 11 I went to www.blah.com
2.  I arrowed through the page until I reached the B of blah.
3.  I pressed f8.
4.  I arrowed through the word character by character to the right.
5.  I pressed f8 again.  I selected copy.
6.  I went into word and pasted.
7.  The word blah that I tried to copy to the clipboard didn't make it.  I got 
a  different word or different string copied.
Hope this helps,
Chris


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On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 2:47 AM
To: Dave; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: F-8

I guess my only issue with f8 is that I'm not comfortable that I am at the 
start where I want to copy, and that everything I want to copy, will copy.

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From: Dave via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 9:23 PM
To: Brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: F-8

So far, I have found the F8 method of copying something to be Hit and
Miss.  Or I get a parchal copy of something, or I copy something I
never intended to copy.

I keep thinking it is me who is doing something incorrectly, but
since I seem to end up with questionable results more than even a
Bone Head like me should suffer, I have to start thinking something
is not quite right with the F8 method.

I am thinking it may have something to do with when the Web Site page
changes, because there is now an Ad that popped up, or some other
Animation has started moving around, just maybe this sort of Web
movement messes with the new method of copying text.

Just a guess on my part, since I am still not convinced I am always
using the feature as it was meant to be used.

Sometimes it works as it should and other times nothing even happens.

At 04:30 PM 5/28/2015, you wrote:
Can anyone say they get constant results using the F-8 method? I sure 
don't! Especially when trying to copy a link or text in email. I use 
Windows Mail
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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Rick Blair via Talk
Hello Jeremy:

What a wonderfully open-ended question you have asked. As a person new to
WE, recently migrating from Zoom Text, I cannot comment on how past features
are different in the current version. I can only dream of what would make my
life easier with assistive technology such as Window Eyes.

1. As an engineer who focuses on architectural designs of complex systems, I
would like some way for graphical constructs (e.g. flowcharts, state
transition diagrams, UML diagrams, etc. to be described.  Since all of these
types of graphics are not bitmap type graphics but logical representations
of logical connections between entities, some method of description should
be possible. The difficulty is that it may depend upon the package used to
create the visualization (Visio, Word Art, Enterprise Architect, etc.)
2. I think there is an opportunity to improve Power Point capabilities.
Perhaps it is my lack of experience with WE when reading Power Point
diagrams, but I find that tabbing between objects on a slide to be confusing
and not very intuitive. If I tab to a text box, for instance, I am told that
I am on a text box and its location, but its content is not disclosed. I
must hit enter to read the text contained within.
3. Improved access with collaborative tools, like WebEx. I am not sure if
this can be solved by the WE team alone. It probably requires accessibility
vendors to drive change in these collaborate tools to support accessibility.
Today, others in my workplace are used to helping me read screens presented
in these collaborative tools. I envision a future where this support is no
longer necessary and that I can read these shared screens as well as they
appear in their native tools.

From a business side, now that AI Squared and GW Micro are now one, I would
like to see an upgrade pricing strategy to support those migrating from Zoom
Text to Window eyes. I am currently using the WE for Office, but would like
to purchase a licensed copy with the extra voices and technical support, but
the $900 price tag is a significant barrier.

Thanks for asking and listening.

Rick blair


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Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen
reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Sim Kah Yong via Talk

Hello Jeremy,

Thanks for asking. My top three requests for Window-eyes will be:
1.  Make it rock solid once again just like before without crashing or 
losing speech so often.
2.  The ability to switch language on the fly just like using iphone or 
ipad with IOS.
3.  To access the content of internet sites with ease, especially 
filling up forms.


Thank you once again.

On 5/29/2015 3:32 AM, Jeremy Curry via Talk wrote:

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you 
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen 
reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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RE: Highlighting and Deleting in Office 2013

2015-05-29 Thread Richard Petty via Talk
Matthew,

Try this. With a Word document open, press F6. Press it two or three times.
If you hear a pane that voices Collect and Paste 2.0 then press
Control-Spacebar to close that pane. 

Let me know if this helps.

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Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 8:47 PM
To: 'Matthew Chao'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Highlighting and Deleting in Office 2013

Matthew,

Try minimizing the ribbon. Tap on the Alt key and arrow right. For me the
Minimize the Ribbon tab is the last tab. Note if it is pressed or not. If
not, tap the spacebar while on that item. We should then speak pressed..

What may be happening is that a little pop up sits on the screen sometimes
in Word 2010 and 2013 when you're copying material. I turned this popup on
accidentally and had a hard time getting rid of it. Word displays the
contents of the Clipboard to view the last several  items you cut or copied.
That's nice enough if you can use it, but as far as I can tell the clipboard
isn't accessible with the standard cursor keys. It may be somehow, but I
haven't been able to make it work. Still worse, until I found how to
minimize the ribbon, I could find no way to make it go away. Minimizing the
ribbon seems to do it.

So, I hope this helps and that what I've described will work for you.

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Subject: Highlighting and Deleting in Office 2013

Hi, Folks.  I seem to be having a problem with Office 2013 (I 
think).  In older versions of Office, I could hilight the word I 
wanted to use, hit Delete, and it would be gone.  Not 
anymore.  Instead, it gives me options referring to clearing the 
clipboard.  Can I change this?  It's very annoying.  Thanks in 
advance.--Matthew Chao.

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Re: F-8

2015-05-29 Thread Mike Rogers via Talk
I have no trouble with the f8 feature and really like it.



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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Alan J Paganelli via Talk
Personally, I really don't care how the sighted people do it.  I care how 
blind people do it.





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-Original Message- 
From: Elizabeth via Talk

Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 3:54 PM
To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

I absolutely agree.

Elizabeth

At 06:04 PM 5/28/2015, you wrote:
If I had to have one thing different, I really, really, really wish we 
could go back to the old way of selecting text on a web page.  All of the 
other screenreaders do it the standard way with the control and shift and 
arrow keys.  I understand that the f8 selection method is more of like a 
sighted person does it, but I've often found it to be clunky at best. 
Either that or it's operator error, I'm not sure. So that's my idea. I 
don't know if selecting text relies on the way WE reads a webpage, but it'd 
sure be nice to do it the same way all the other major screenreaders do it.






On 5/28/2015 5:29 PM, Loy via Talk wrote:
AS a low vision user I would also like to have the ability to use the 
physical mouse Like the earlier versions had.
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To: Reeva Webb jadedangelpromi...@gmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion 
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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 3:42 PM
Subject: RE: Seeking Your Input


I loudly echo Reeva's comment on physical mouse support.  I'm still on IE 
8 and WE 8.4 at work and dread the point when we'll move to IE 11 because 
I rely on the physical mouse narration right now to deal with aspects of 
my work.  (I'm on IE 11 and WE 9.1 at home.)



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Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Please,please, please low vision we users need using the physical mouse 
to work again. One of the main reasons i chose we was that y'all weren't 
strictly keyboard focused.


Reeva

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talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:



y over all applications, and support for more applications  and easier
ways to make applications accessible by the user.Better support for
microsoft access  better stability

-Original Message- From: Jeremy Curry via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 3:32 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.
If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add
to our screen reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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Ai Squared, Inc.
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Re: F-8

2015-05-29 Thread Alan J Paganelli via Talk
This is what works for me.  When I use the F8 feature, I locate the 
beginning of what I want to copy and using my left/right arrow keys make 
sure I'm on the first caractor of the first sentense. and then use the 
down-darrow keys to get to the end of what I want to copy and make sure I'm 
at the end of the line.  Then I'll go back and hit the F8 key again to copy 
to the clipboard.  I may be asked if I want to copy plane text or text with 
formatting.  I find when I don't use this method that I get poorer results.


HTH





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From: Dave via Talk

Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 6:23 PM
To: Brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: F-8

So far, I have found the F8 method of copying something to be Hit and
Miss.  Or I get a parchal copy of something, or I copy something I
never intended to copy.

I keep thinking it is me who is doing something incorrectly, but
since I seem to end up with questionable results more than even a
Bone Head like me should suffer, I have to start thinking something
is not quite right with the F8 method.

I am thinking it may have something to do with when the Web Site page
changes, because there is now an Ad that popped up, or some other
Animation has started moving around, just maybe this sort of Web
movement messes with the new method of copying text.

Just a guess on my part, since I am still not convinced I am always
using the feature as it was meant to be used.

Sometimes it works as it should and other times nothing even happens.

At 04:30 PM 5/28/2015, you wrote:
Can anyone say they get constant results using the F-8 method? I sure 
don't! Especially when trying to copy a link or text in email. I use 
Windows Mail

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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Andre via Talk
I had no idea about this port forwarding even when talking to WE tech
support. It just wasn't working on my Vista machine when trying to get
assistance with tech support who was running on WE 7 or 8 at the time. This
was several months ago. I was using WE 9 and still, it wasn't working.

So I agree. Let's update and get remote assistance working for all platforms
that WE says it supports.

Thanks,

Perhaps for that reason, I couldn't get assistance even from WE tech
support.
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Hi all

Ok I will jump in here and say Remote Assistance needs to be much easier to
use without the hassle of forwarding ports at both ends. When Remote
Assistance was introduced in Window-Eyes 7.5, it was very easy to use. Now,
thanks to a later update to the 7.5 series which updated Remote Assistance,
it is not so. Some clients would not have a clue about port forwarding.

Thanks for reading.
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 I would like to see Remote Assistance made more reliable.  It rarely works
 for me any longer.  
 
 I would also like to see support for touch screens.  
 
 Bill
 
 
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 Hello Everyone,
 
 We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If
you
 could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our
screen
 reading product, what would they be?
 
 Thanks for the input!
 
 Jeremy
 
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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Ray Campbell via Talk
Hi:

That's why I think efforts by AI Squared and other screen reader makers
should be to get their products to work with mainstream remote assistance
products like TeamViewer, LogMeInPro and others.  These are the kinds of
products used by entities like Geek Squad, and if they were accessible from
both sides, people who are blind could work in positions like that.


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On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 2:12 AM
To: Bill Belew; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Hi all

Ok I will jump in here and say Remote Assistance needs to be much easier to
use without the hassle of forwarding ports at both ends. When Remote
Assistance was introduced in Window-Eyes 7.5, it was very easy to use. Now,
thanks to a later update to the 7.5 series which updated Remote Assistance,
it is not so. Some clients would not have a clue about port forwarding.

Thanks for reading.
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wrote:
 
 I would like to see Remote Assistance made more reliable.  It rarely 
 works for me any longer.
 
 I would also like to see support for touch screens.  
 
 Bill
 
 
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 On Behalf Of Jeremy Curry via Talk
 Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:33 PM
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 Subject: Seeking Your Input
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  
 If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add 
 to our screen reading product, what would they be?
 
 Thanks for the input!
 
 Jeremy
 
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 Ai Squared, Inc.
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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Ray Campbell via Talk
Hi All:

Jeremy, a fourth suggestion.  How about access to tools like CUITe Object
Recorder, used in automated testing development.


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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Alan J Paganelli via Talk
I too would like to see the ability to use Jart.  I use Jart 45 in screen 
reader mode.  I'm an awful speller but Jart lets me do spell check  I would 
like to access Jart 45 through Window-Eyes.





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From: Elizabeth via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 4:47 AM
To: David Goldfield ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Have you tried Window-eyes with Jarte? If you Google it, you may find
it serves your needs.

Elizabeth

At 03:37 AM 5/29/2015, you wrote:
As I'm adding a fifth suggestion to my initial list, does this mean I'm 
pleading the fifth?


Seriously, I totally agree with this request about support for LibreOffice. 
I realize that AI Squared is partnering with Microsoft. I realize that 
Microsoft Office is a major Microsoft product and, for many reasons, it is 
essential that Window-Eyes remains better than competitive by offering the 
best access to Office as we can get. I get that and agree with it. However, 
one of the reasons for why I broke down and purchased Office 365 at home 
was because, if I'm going to be honest, Office offers me the best 
accessibility for document creation and editing. I'm sure Microsoft is 
quite pleased with this fact. I also feel no malice toward them for their 
products or for the way they are being marketed and distributed. The fact 
is that Microsoft Word is a darn good product, is used by a lot of people 
and screen readers need to support it. However, Office should not be the 
only choice available to us. Some people just can't afford it. Some can but 
don't feel that they should have to pay for a decent word processor and I'm 
in that camp. I love the philosophy of open source, not just because many 
open source packages are free but because they are written and supported by 
a community, rather than a corporation, which has some advantages over 
Microsoft Word. Although Window-Eyes isn't such a product, the 
scripting/app development aspect brings that community involvement to 
Window-Eyes and you guys do it better than your competition. Having said 
that, we need to see equal support for LibreOffice, or at least as much as 
can be implemented if there are limitations caused by the software. I can 
tell you that the Document Foundation, which produces and distributes 
LibreOffice, is interested in accessibility-related feedback and would 
probably be happy to work with AI Squared in helping to make Window-Eyes 
work just as well with Writer as it does with Word. This would open up good 
word processing to many more of your users and would make Window-Eyes stand 
apart from the competition if we could have the same level of support with 
LibreOffice/OpenOffice as we do with Word.



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On 5/29/2015 2:54 AM, Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk wrote:

Hi Jeremy,

My wish list include:

1. Better support for Mozilla products especially Thunderbird Mail 
(basically mouse navigation)

2. the ability to import/export window-eyes settings
3. better support for non-microsoft products such as open office and Liber 
office so we the end users have better choice.
4. better labelling graphics capability (the insert+g when finish 
labelling does not tells you how many labels it found and how many manage 
to really label them).
5. better support for the most three used programming languages  packages 
used today.



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Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If 
you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our 
screen reading product, what would they be?


Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Ayers, David (ITCS) via Talk
Overall better stability and then...

1. Better mouse interaction with web apps in IE.

2.  An auto OCR detection of .pdf documents that are scanned as images.

3.  A way to use Remote Desktop with pc's without WE installed on them.  Maybe 
something like the mobile version of WE being run when logging on to the remote 
pc and unloading at log off.

Thanks,

David Ayers
Tioga County ITCS
607.687.8296
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Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you 
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen 
reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Paulette Vickery via Talk
Hi Nick,

You make me feel better. I am glad that there are at least 2 of us with
somewhat limited computer knowledge. Smile.

Paulette

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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 8:33 PM
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I've never been very knowledgeable when it comes to using computers (even
though I've been on the web for almost 15 years) which makes understanding
everything WE can do somewhat overwhelming.  That said, I am in radio
Broadcasting and would love to know if WE and audio production can be
compatible.

As for stability, I've only been using WE 9.1 for about a month and find it
to be fairly stable, and restarting WE (controlk-alt-w) has worked for me
virtually without problems.

One more thing, if WE could work better with audio and video playback
software such as reading graphics (so that I can scroll through various
menus) that would make it easier for me to listen to a Caudio CD or DVD. 
Sorry, one more thing, while f-8 may be a bit clunky, I type exclusively
with the left hand, and this makes it much easier for me to copy lots of
text.

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Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen
reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
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Ai Squared, Inc.
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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Matthew Dyer via Talk

Hi Rick.

You might want to see if aisquared is still doing the lease to own 
program.  I  am not for sure but it would not hurt to ask.


Matthew


On 5/29/2015 6:18 AM, Rick Blair via Talk wrote:

Hello Jeremy:

What a wonderfully open-ended question you have asked. As a person new to
WE, recently migrating from Zoom Text, I cannot comment on how past features
are different in the current version. I can only dream of what would make my
life easier with assistive technology such as Window Eyes.

1. As an engineer who focuses on architectural designs of complex systems, I
would like some way for graphical constructs (e.g. flowcharts, state
transition diagrams, UML diagrams, etc. to be described.  Since all of these
types of graphics are not bitmap type graphics but logical representations
of logical connections between entities, some method of description should
be possible. The difficulty is that it may depend upon the package used to
create the visualization (Visio, Word Art, Enterprise Architect, etc.)
2. I think there is an opportunity to improve Power Point capabilities.
Perhaps it is my lack of experience with WE when reading Power Point
diagrams, but I find that tabbing between objects on a slide to be confusing
and not very intuitive. If I tab to a text box, for instance, I am told that
I am on a text box and its location, but its content is not disclosed. I
must hit enter to read the text contained within.
3. Improved access with collaborative tools, like WebEx. I am not sure if
this can be solved by the WE team alone. It probably requires accessibility
vendors to drive change in these collaborate tools to support accessibility.
Today, others in my workplace are used to helping me read screens presented
in these collaborative tools. I envision a future where this support is no
longer necessary and that I can read these shared screens as well as they
appear in their native tools.

 From a business side, now that AI Squared and GW Micro are now one, I would
like to see an upgrade pricing strategy to support those migrating from Zoom
Text to Window eyes. I am currently using the WE for Office, but would like
to purchase a licensed copy with the extra voices and technical support, but
the $900 price tag is a significant barrier.

Thanks for asking and listening.

Rick blair


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Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen
reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
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Ai Squared, Inc.
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Webinar Recording Now Available! - Strategies for Navigating And Interacting with Complex Web Pages with Window-Eyes: Part 1

2015-05-29 Thread Marc Solomon via Talk
If you missed yesterday's webinar training or want to review the information 
again, you can now download the webinar recording as well as the corresponding 
study guide worksheet and answer key by visiting: www.gwmicro.com/webinars. The 
download links can be found just below the heading titled Strategies for 
Navigating And Interacting with Complex Web Pages with Window-Eyes. Part 2 of 
the webinar series is being planned for June 18, 2015. Be on the lookout for an 
announcement in the next few weeks with more details. Don't forget to check out 
the rest of the webinar training archive and let us know if you have 
suggestions for future webinar topics. 

Thanks,
The Ai Squared Team





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WE 9.1 and IE 11

2015-05-29 Thread Don H via Talk
Is there a way to get WE to start at the top of a web page 
automatically?  Using WE 9.1 on a Win 8.1 system and IE 11

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RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Baracco, Andrew W via Talk
This is like the Eudora item. How long should an AT company be expected
to support old software? Sometimes it's just time to move on.

Andy


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I'm another low vision user stuck using IE 8 waiting for mouse support
to return to WE. Being able to use the physical mouse to read web pages
is by far the most important feature I need.



Jim Roberts



At 03:32 PM 5/28/2015, you wrote:
Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  
If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add 
to our screen reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
Director of Product Management
Ai Squared, Inc.
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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Paulette Vickery via Talk
Bravo! Well said! The thing I miss most about Word Perfect is the ability to
do a backward search. Now why didn't MS Word do that?

Paulette

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On Behalf Of Dave via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 10:55 AM
To: David Goldfield; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Hey, I would like to see Access return to Word Perfect.  I once used Word
Perfect all the time, then about 15 years ago, had to switch over to the
Dark Side and use MS Word.  I still use Word, but could say that I still
miss Word Perfect and the way it operated.

I know that MS Word is the dominate Word Processor on the Market, and has
been for a while now.  Never the less, with the interface changing in Word
about every other edition, it is difficult to buy their next copy knowing
you are going to need to re-learn a lot of what you knew well in their
previous edition.

MS Word 2003 had the same look and feel of most of the editions of MS Word,
going back to the DOS Days.  Then some Bright and Rising Star at Microsoft
decided it would be a good thing to change Word.  We the public were offered
MS Word 2007, where everything was changed, forcing people to hunt around
for features and commands that once were automatic, but now were hidden away
in some dark corner of the newest edition.

the next edition was MS Word 2010, which again rebuilt the interface,
forcing everyone to yet again learn the new layout in MS Word.  I am still
stumbling around in MS Word 2010.  then 2013 came along, and Word 365 which
has changed the interface yet again.

When it comes to computers, and the software that runs on them, most
customers want reliability, and they want consistency in the program design.

Most computer users are not using a computer because they love dinking
around with computers, but are using one because it is to be an assistive
tool, that helps them to be more productive.

having to relearn drastically altered interfaces is not what the General
Public Dreams of doing.

So when Microsoft comes along with a brand new edition of Office, the first
thing all of us ask is, is it going to be Accessible?  And if so, will it be
more accessible than the previous edition, or will we be losing some
accessibility.

Today,  all Word Processors I know of, allow the user to Save their 
Documents in the MS Word file format.So whether you use Word 
Perfect, or Open Office, or some other Processor, is not as isolating as it
once was.

Since Microsoft is planning to release their new Windows 10 sometime in
July.  Anyone know if they will be releasing a new edition of MS 
Office?   Office 2015?



Getting back to offering support for another Word Processor. . . I am 
all for it.  Whether it is Open Office, or even Word Perfect, having 
alternatives would be nice.  Since I am no longer a Working Stiff, I 
find my own funds are now limited, and the thought of going out and 
buying a copy of MS Office does not seem like something I will be 
choosing to afford.

At 12:37 AM 5/29/2015, you wrote:
As I'm adding a fifth suggestion to my initial list, does this mean 
I'm pleading the fifth?

Seriously, I totally agree with this request about support for 
LibreOffice. I realize that AI Squared is partnering with Microsoft. 
I realize that Microsoft Office is a major Microsoft product and, 
for many reasons, it is essential that Window-Eyes remains better 
than competitive by offering the best access to Office as we can 
get. I get that and agree with it. However, one of the reasons for 
why I broke down and purchased Office 365 at home was because, if 
I'm going to be honest, Office offers me the best accessibility for 
document creation and editing. I'm sure Microsoft is quite pleased 
with this fact. I also feel no malice toward them for their products 
or for the way they are being marketed and distributed. The fact is 
that Microsoft Word is a darn good product, is used by a lot of 
people and screen readers need to support it. However, Office should 
not be the only choice available to us. Some people just can't 
afford it. Some can but don't feel that they should have to pay for 
a decent word processor and I'm in that camp. I love the philosophy 
of open source, not just because many open source packages are free 
but because they are written and supported by a community, rather 
than a corporation, which has some advantages over Microsoft Word. 
Although Window-Eyes isn't such a product, the scripting/app 
development aspect brings that community involvement to Window-Eyes 
and you guys do it better than your competition. Having said that, 
we need to see equal support for LibreOffice, or at least as much as 
can be implemented if there are limitations caused by the software. 
I can tell you that the Document Foundation, which produces and 
distributes LibreOffice, is interested in accessibility-related 
feedback and would probably be happy 

Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread hui thian via Talk
hi, please kindly make window-eyes able to read flash and images. now a days 
most of the web sides are using flash and window-eyes is not able to support 
that programme and I have difficulties browsing and doing things on that 
type of web side. thanks
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Subject: Seeking Your Input



Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If 
you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our 
screen reading product, what would they be?


Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Chris Skarstad via Talk
What would be cool is if the user could have the choice to use the 
standard text-selection method or the f8 method.  From an earlier email 
I read, it sounds like the regular text-selection method *will* be back, 
we just don't know when.

Sometimes it works for me, sometimes not.



On 5/28/2015 7:45 PM, Keith Hinton via Talk wrote:

I do not want the f8 feature going away even though some users clearly
do in bbrowse mode. I prefer this.

On 5/28/15, Barbara via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

My 3 choices in no specific order are:

Be able to read CAPTCHA Verification

More stability with Office and internet explorer.  I have had more issues
since version 9 of WE than I have in more than 20 years

Most far fetched is a way for window-eyes to work with off the shelf
products without a tech type creating special apps or set files etc.

Barbara


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Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If
you
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our
screen
reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Paulette Vickery via Talk
What hot key can you hit when Window Eyes stops talking, other than control
alt W, which doesn't work well anyway? I have to reboot frequently, because
WE just stops talking and there is nothing else to do.

Paulette
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On Behalf Of Ray Campbell via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 10:01 PM
To: Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Several thoughts. First, I agree, let's go back to the standard way of
selecting and copying text from web pages.  Second, one thing Window-Eyes
does that no other screen reader to my knowledge does is allow you to hit a
hot key and bring it back up when it stops talking.

One thing I'd love for WE to do that would separate it from the pack is to
be able to run when you're installing or upgrading Windows.  I don't think
any screen reader does that.

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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Loy via Talk
Rather than shutting down try control, Alt, delete then alt L will log you 
off and back on.
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From: Paulette Vickery via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com
To: 'Ray Campbell' ray153...@gmail.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
talk@lists.window-eyes.com

Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 12:12 PM
Subject: RE: Seeking Your Input


What hot key can you hit when Window Eyes stops talking, other than 
control
alt W, which doesn't work well anyway? I have to reboot frequently, 
because

WE just stops talking and there is nothing else to do.

Paulette
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On Behalf Of Ray Campbell via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 10:01 PM
To: Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Several thoughts. First, I agree, let's go back to the standard way of
selecting and copying text from web pages.  Second, one thing Window-Eyes
does that no other screen reader to my knowledge does is allow you to hit 
a

hot key and bring it back up when it stops talking.

One thing I'd love for WE to do that would separate it from the pack is to
be able to run when you're installing or upgrading Windows.  I don't think
any screen reader does that.

Ray Campbell
ray153...@gmail.com

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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Matthew Dyer via Talk
How about the ability to work with metro apps in windows 8.1 and later 
such as the windows mail app.  Matthew




On 5/28/2015 3:42 PM, Don H via Talk wrote:
Continue to improve WEB access.  Support for touch screens for both 
tablets and laptops.


On 5/28/2015 2:32 PM, Jeremy Curry via Talk wrote:

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  
If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add 
to our screen reading product, what would they be?


Thanks for the input!

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RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Baracco, Andrew W via Talk
Give me a break. Development on this program stopped how many years ago?
Sometimes it's just time to move on, and it isn't a question of there
not being alternatives.

Andy


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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 7:35 PM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

Support for Eudora 7.1.0.9 that tons of people are still using.  The
graphics that say read unread and so on don't speak unless you shut down
WE, start Eudora, and THEN start WE again.  Using Control-Alt-W for a
restart of WE doesn't do it.

Thanks!
Marilyn

At 12:32 PM 5/28/2015, you wrote:
Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  
If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add 
to our screen reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Baracco, Andrew W via Talk
I would suspect this is partly because it is a standard way of selecting
text in Windows applications. If you use more than one screen reader,
you have to remember that you have to use a different selection method
with Window Eyes.

Andy


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[mailto:talk-bounces+andrew.baracco=va@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 10:13 AM
To: Chris Skarstad; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

Can I ask why some people prefer the original way of selecting text as 
opposed to f8 (all things being equal)?

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 12:48 PM
To: Keith Hinton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

What would be cool is if the user could have the choice to use the
standard text-selection method or the f8 method.  From an earlier email
I read, it sounds like the regular text-selection method *will* be back,
we just don't know when.
Sometimes it works for me, sometimes not.



On 5/28/2015 7:45 PM, Keith Hinton via Talk wrote:
 I do not want the f8 feature going away even though some users clearly
 do in bbrowse mode. I prefer this.

 On 5/28/15, Barbara via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:
 My 3 choices in no specific order are:

 Be able to read CAPTCHA Verification

 More stability with Office and internet explorer.  I have had more
issues
 since version 9 of WE than I have in more than 20 years

 Most far fetched is a way for window-eyes to work with off the shelf
 products without a tech type creating special apps or set files etc.

 Barbara


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On
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 Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:33 PM
 To: t...@window-eyes.com
 Subject: Seeking Your Input

 Hello Everyone,

 We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.
If
 you
 could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our
 screen
 reading product, what would they be?

 Thanks for the input!

 Jeremy

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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread net bat via Talk
i seldom have to reboot. sometimes i have to wait 20 seconds before w e will 
reload.
another option is to create a batch file and a desktop icon with a shortcut 
to the batch file.

in the batch file use the w e command switch /k
use note pad to create the batch file file name.bat
and use this command. including the quotes.
C:\Program Files (x86)\GW Micro\Window-Eyes\wineyes.exe /k




-Original Message- 
From: Paulette Vickery via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 9:12 AM
To: 'Ray Campbell' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Seeking Your Input

What hot key can you hit when Window Eyes stops talking, other than control
alt W, which doesn't work well anyway? I have to reboot frequently, because
WE just stops talking and there is nothing else to do.

Paulette
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Ray Campbell via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 10:01 PM
To: Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Several thoughts. First, I agree, let's go back to the standard way of
selecting and copying text from web pages.  Second, one thing Window-Eyes
does that no other screen reader to my knowledge does is allow you to hit a
hot key and bring it back up when it stops talking.

One thing I'd love for WE to do that would separate it from the pack is to
be able to run when you're installing or upgrading Windows.  I don't think
any screen reader does that.

Ray Campbell
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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread net bat via Talk
because aisquared is starting to look more like jaws. where most if not all 
of the normal windows commands are being hidden from the user.
instead of letting the user learn the normal windows commands which have 
been about the same through all versions of windows since i have been useing 
a computer back in 1990



-Original Message- 
From: Nick Sarames via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 10:12 AM
To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Can I ask why some people prefer the original way of selecting text as
opposed to f8 (all things being equal)?

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Skarstad via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 12:48 PM
To: Keith Hinton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

What would be cool is if the user could have the choice to use the
standard text-selection method or the f8 method.  From an earlier email
I read, it sounds like the regular text-selection method *will* be back,
we just don't know when.
Sometimes it works for me, sometimes not.



On 5/28/2015 7:45 PM, Keith Hinton via Talk wrote:

I do not want the f8 feature going away even though some users clearly
do in bbrowse mode. I prefer this.

On 5/28/15, Barbara via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

My 3 choices in no specific order are:

Be able to read CAPTCHA Verification

More stability with Office and internet explorer.  I have had more issues
since version 9 of WE than I have in more than 20 years

Most far fetched is a way for window-eyes to work with off the shelf
products without a tech type creating special apps or set files etc.

Barbara


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Behalf Of Jeremy Curry via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:33 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If
you
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our
screen
reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
Director of Product Management
Ai Squared, Inc.
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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Warren Logan via Talk


Hello.
I would like to see Window-eyes read text better in firefox.
Ever since the new browse mode, reading text in firefox has been some 
what of a chore.
Sometimes a letter or even parts of words are simply chopped off from 
the end of a line. And even sometimes, whole lines are hidden until I up 
arrow. A great example of this is pretty much any youtube comment 
section. This never ever happened in the old browse mode. Also, I too 
would like to be able to select text the usual way in a webpage. The new 
way is useful for large blocks of text, but if I want to select a line, 
or even just a word, there is in my opinion an unnecesary added step or 
two that has to be taken to accomplish this quite simple task.
And of course, I would like to see Window-eyes be more stable, and hang 
less. The ability to restart the program is a great start, but I would 
like to use it less, if that makes sense.



On 5/28/2015 2:32 PM, Jeremy Curry via Talk wrote:

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you 
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen 
reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
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Ai Squared, Inc.
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Email: jcu...@aisquared.commailto:jcu...@aisquared.com
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Tutorial #2 available for Remind Me Where

2015-05-29 Thread Chip Orange via Talk
This Remind Me Where tutorial (#2) finishes up covering advanced searching
options and more things to be done with getting directions.  You can find it
at:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11745142/rmw_tutorial2.htm

 

You won't believe how well you can learn to navigate your neighborhood, your
city.

 

Enjoy,

 

Chip

 

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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Ray Campbell via Talk
Hi Nick:

I'm an expert user, but prefer the standard way of selecting as opposed to
the F8 method as that's how it's done in every other program outside of web
browsing programs like IE.


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-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ray153056=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 12:13 PM
To: Chris Skarstad; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Can I ask why some people prefer the original way of selecting text as
opposed to f8 (all things being equal)?

-Original Message-
From: Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 12:48 PM
To: Keith Hinton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

What would be cool is if the user could have the choice to use the standard
text-selection method or the f8 method.  From an earlier email I read, it
sounds like the regular text-selection method *will* be back, we just don't
know when.
Sometimes it works for me, sometimes not.



On 5/28/2015 7:45 PM, Keith Hinton via Talk wrote:
 I do not want the f8 feature going away even though some users clearly 
 do in bbrowse mode. I prefer this.

 On 5/28/15, Barbara via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:
 My 3 choices in no specific order are:

 Be able to read CAPTCHA Verification

 More stability with Office and internet explorer.  I have had more 
 issues since version 9 of WE than I have in more than 20 years

 Most far fetched is a way for window-eyes to work with off the shelf 
 products without a tech type creating special apps or set files etc.

 Barbara


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 Subject: Seeking Your Input

 Hello Everyone,

 We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  
 If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add 
 to our screen reading product, what would they be?

 Thanks for the input!

 Jeremy

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RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Chip Orange via Talk
My apologies Andy ... I only read the subject and jumped to a conclusion
about what was being discussed; didn't read all the way down!.

Sorry again,

Chip


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Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 12:39 PM
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Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

Give me a break. Development on this program stopped how many years ago?
Sometimes it's just time to move on, and it isn't a question of there
not being alternatives.

Andy


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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 7:35 PM
To: Jeremy Curry; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

Support for Eudora 7.1.0.9 that tons of people are still using.  The
graphics that say read unread and so on don't speak unless you shut down
WE, start Eudora, and THEN start WE again.  Using Control-Alt-W for a
restart of WE doesn't do it.

Thanks!
Marilyn

At 12:32 PM 5/28/2015, you wrote:
Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  
If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add 
to our screen reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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Question concerning Start Up

2015-05-29 Thread Mike Rogers via Talk
I have noticed lately that Window Eyes takes al  lot longer to come on, when I 
boot up my computer.  This is a change that is recent and it isn't my computer, 
which is pretty fast at starrt up.  Any reason for this?



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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread net bat via Talk
i would like to see some way for w e to move focus to the edit box from the 
too field when replying to a message with wlm 2012.
you know how many times i have replied to a message to find out i was in the 
to field and have to cut and paste my message to the edit box where it was 
suppose to go in the first place.
i'll send the message and get the message check names when i try to send it. 
then i know i was in the to field. 


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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
Can I ask why some people prefer the original way of selecting text as 
opposed to f8 (all things being equal)?


-Original Message- 
From: Chris Skarstad via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 12:48 PM
To: Keith Hinton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

What would be cool is if the user could have the choice to use the
standard text-selection method or the f8 method.  From an earlier email
I read, it sounds like the regular text-selection method *will* be back,
we just don't know when.
Sometimes it works for me, sometimes not.



On 5/28/2015 7:45 PM, Keith Hinton via Talk wrote:

I do not want the f8 feature going away even though some users clearly
do in bbrowse mode. I prefer this.

On 5/28/15, Barbara via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

My 3 choices in no specific order are:

Be able to read CAPTCHA Verification

More stability with Office and internet explorer.  I have had more issues
since version 9 of WE than I have in more than 20 years

Most far fetched is a way for window-eyes to work with off the shelf
products without a tech type creating special apps or set files etc.

Barbara


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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:33 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If
you
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our
screen
reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Chip Orange via Talk
Andy's pegged it; the new way is easier, but it's different from how we have
to do it (even in WE) in other places in Windows.

Chip


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On Behalf Of Baracco, Andrew W via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 1:59 PM
To: Nick Sarames; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

I would suspect this is partly because it is a standard way of selecting
text in Windows applications. If you use more than one screen reader,
you have to remember that you have to use a different selection method
with Window Eyes.

Andy


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Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 10:13 AM
To: Chris Skarstad; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

Can I ask why some people prefer the original way of selecting text as 
opposed to f8 (all things being equal)?

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 12:48 PM
To: Keith Hinton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

What would be cool is if the user could have the choice to use the
standard text-selection method or the f8 method.  From an earlier email
I read, it sounds like the regular text-selection method *will* be back,
we just don't know when.
Sometimes it works for me, sometimes not.



On 5/28/2015 7:45 PM, Keith Hinton via Talk wrote:
 I do not want the f8 feature going away even though some users clearly
 do in bbrowse mode. I prefer this.

 On 5/28/15, Barbara via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:
 My 3 choices in no specific order are:

 Be able to read CAPTCHA Verification

 More stability with Office and internet explorer.  I have had more
issues
 since version 9 of WE than I have in more than 20 years

 Most far fetched is a way for window-eyes to work with off the shelf
 products without a tech type creating special apps or set files etc.

 Barbara


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On
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 Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:33 PM
 To: t...@window-eyes.com
 Subject: Seeking Your Input

 Hello Everyone,

 We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.
If
 you
 could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our
 screen
 reading product, what would they be?

 Thanks for the input!

 Jeremy

 Jeremy Curry
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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
Yes, Window-Eyes needs to have better marketing of its products, especially
since it is going to be made by AI Squared once things are properly merged
and the website is just the single AI Squared.
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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 4:46 PM
To: Jeremy Curry; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

JAWS and especially NVDA are ahead of Window-Eyes in the use of iAccessible2
and UIA accessibility hooks. I would like to see as much support as possible
for these accessibility methods in the scripting language, in developer
documentation and example code. Programmers need really clear examples of
when to set the name, value, description, role, etc. of these controls. If
the mouse pointer can be used with any of these, that would be a bonus.
Keep working on web browser support, for all three browsers. You might want
to have a quirks mode, trying to fix bugs in popular web sites and site
building tools' output,  as well as a WCAG standards mode that gives web
developers an experience of what an ideal user agent will do if the pages
are coded properly, with no allowance for quirks.
It goes without saying that you will need to support touch gestures.
You will need to continue to educate users and developers concerning the
causes of some of the crashes or apparent crashes. I think most of us don't
have any idea how difficult it is to work with modern web pages and apps. 
People have forgotten that sometimes pressing ctrl-shift-W twice will give
information that's not available otherwise, and that other programs can only
be read by moving the mouse pointer around.
You will gain the best market share by staying up-to-date and by being
stable and dependable, not by adding more unique features or free speech
synthesizers.



Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
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To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen
reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
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Ai Squared, Inc.
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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
This is an excelent opportunity to once again request (now
with urgency) improvements to braille support.  Secondly: improvements as to
how Window-Eyes operates in corporate environments.  And thirdly: online
sales availability for those of us outside of the United States.  Adding a
fourth: increasing the gap between what is available to paying customers and
those who take the Office route.  By way of example: perhaps my longed for
improvements to braille could aply only to ve3rsions of the software which
are purchased.

 

Vaughan.

 

 

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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Ted Larson via Talk
First, I would like to know what is hogging the system, taking away 
resources from the application I am working on.
Second, Sometimes a dialog box appears without telling me anything and then 
disappears within a couple of seconds without a clue.
Third:  It would be nice to have all words that window-eyes cannot pronounce 
correctly, to be updated through a dictionary where those words could be 
found and spoken correctly.  Thanks.  Regards:  Ted Larson


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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:32 PM
Subject: Seeking Your Input



Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If 
you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our 
screen reading product, what would they be?


Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Chip,

I believe you misinterpreted what Andy was saying.
He meant that development on Eudora has stopped, and he recommended to the
person that they should move on and use a different email client.
I do believe he could have stated his opinion a bit more softly.

All the best,

Rod

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Of Chip Orange via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 1:41 PM
To: 'Baracco, Andrew W'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

So why are you even here on this list Andy if you feel like that?

I'll never understand people who stick around simply to complain.

Just so you know ... no, development has never stopped, and the constant
stream of long read me files with each release is more than proof enough.
In addition, there's the separate scripting community.


Chip


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Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 12:39 PM
To: M and L Dorn; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

Give me a break. Development on this program stopped how many years ago?
Sometimes it's just time to move on, and it isn't a question of there
not being alternatives.

Andy


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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 7:35 PM
To: Jeremy Curry; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

Support for Eudora 7.1.0.9 that tons of people are still using.  The
graphics that say read unread and so on don't speak unless you shut down
WE, start Eudora, and THEN start WE again.  Using Control-Alt-W for a
restart of WE doesn't do it.

Thanks!
Marilyn

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We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  
If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add 
to our screen reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
Director of Product Management
Ai Squared, Inc.
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Re: Tutorial #2 available for Remind Me Where

2015-05-29 Thread RJ Sandefur via Talk

What is remind me where? RJ
- Original Message - 
From: Chip Orange via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com
To: 'Chip Orange' lists3...@comcast.net; 'Window-Eyes Scripting List' 
script...@lists.window-eyes.com; 'Window-Eyes App Discussion List' 
a...@lists.window-eyes.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
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Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 5:23 PM
Subject: RE: Tutorial #2 available for Remind Me Where



Hi all,

I should have mentioned, for anyone who would like the current version of
Remind Me Where, it's now available on App Central, so you can download it
from the utilities category using the AppGet app which comes with
Window-Eyes, or you can go to their App Central portion of the GWMicro.com
web page and search for it.

Thanks,

Chip


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Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 1:37 PM
To: Window-Eyes App Discussion List; Window-Eyes Scripting List; 
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Discussion List
Subject: Tutorial #2 available for Remind Me Where

This Remind Me Where tutorial (#2) finishes up covering advanced searching
options and more things to be done with getting directions.  You can find 
it

at:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11745142/rmw_tutorial2.htm



You won't believe how well you can learn to navigate your neighborhood, 
your

city.



Enjoy,



Chip



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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
This is absolutely ridiculous. You're right about Jaws making users 
think most of the Windows hot keys are Jaws keys. But Window-Eyes has 
never done that.


Give me a list of the most if not all Windows keys that Window-Eyes is 
hiding from us.


The standard selection keys are not employed in browsers for anyone 
but screen-reader users. And that's something each screen-reader does 
itself. It is not given to them by Microsoft.


Tom


On 5/29/2015 2:11 PM, net bat via Talk wrote:

because aisquared is starting to look more like jaws. where most if not
all of the normal windows commands are being hidden from the user.
instead of letting the user learn the normal windows commands which have
been about the same through all versions of windows since i have been
useing a computer back in 1990


-Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 10:12 AM
To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Can I ask why some people prefer the original way of selecting text as
opposed to f8 (all things being equal)?

-Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 12:48 PM
To: Keith Hinton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

What would be cool is if the user could have the choice to use the
standard text-selection method or the f8 method.  From an earlier email
I read, it sounds like the regular text-selection method *will* be back,
we just don't know when.
Sometimes it works for me, sometimes not.



On 5/28/2015 7:45 PM, Keith Hinton via Talk wrote:

I do not want the f8 feature going away even though some users clearly
do in bbrowse mode. I prefer this.

On 5/28/15, Barbara via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

My 3 choices in no specific order are:

Be able to read CAPTCHA Verification

More stability with Office and internet explorer.  I have had more
issues
since version 9 of WE than I have in more than 20 years

Most far fetched is a way for window-eyes to work with off the shelf
products without a tech type creating special apps or set files etc.

Barbara


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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:33 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If
you
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our
screen
reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
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Enough of seeking your input

2015-05-29 Thread Ivan Cribb via Talk
How much longer  must this topic go on? We must have had over a hundred
messages on this topic. Can't we move onto something else.

Smile

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Seek Suggested Development

2015-05-29 Thread Peter Duran via Talk
Hello

Microsoft will release Office 2016 as a free software package this year,
probably when Windows 10 is released.  It would be wonderful if full support
for Office 2016 were available.  Then everybody could avail themselves of
free Window-Eyes and free Office 2016 as their educational and work
platform.  Complete access at last, no economic barriers to personal
fulfillment!

Peter Duran


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RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Karyn Campbell via Talk
Not to mention leaving yourself vulnerable to nasty things due to use of old
software that's no logner supported.

Use at your own risk but don't' complain when bad things happen.

Karyn Campbell, karyn1...@gmail.com




In a message sen ton Friday May 29 by Andrew Baraco
This is like the Eudora item. How long should an AT company be expected to
support old software? Sometimes it's just time to move on.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+andrew.baracco=va@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of James Roberts via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 7:59 PM
To: Jeremy Curry; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input


I'm another low vision user stuck using IE 8 waiting for mouse support to
return to WE. Being able to use the physical mouse to read web pages is by
far the most important feature I need.



Jim Roberts



At 03:32 PM 5/28/2015, you wrote:
Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  
If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add 
to our screen reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
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Ai Squared, Inc.
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RE: Seek Suggested Development

2015-05-29 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
Hello Peter. I do agree with you. When Microsoft releases the free office
2016, people will at last have a free screen reader and they won't want to
spend out for anything anymore.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Peter Duran via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 8:57 PM
To: Talk
Subject: Seek Suggested Development

Hello

Microsoft will release Office 2016 as a free software package this year,
probably when Windows 10 is released.  It would be wonderful if full support
for Office 2016 were available.  Then everybody could avail themselves of
free Window-Eyes and free Office 2016 as their educational and work
platform.  Complete access at last, no economic barriers to personal
fulfillment!

Peter Duran


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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
Hello, I can't tell you how many times I've delbt with clients who think
control x, control c, and control v, etc are jaws commands when they are
windows commands. I had to tell them that these keys which I menshened are
windows so anyone can use them.
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 7:09 PM
To: net bat; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

This is absolutely ridiculous. You're right about Jaws making users think
most of the Windows hot keys are Jaws keys. But Window-Eyes has never done
that.

Give me a list of the most if not all Windows keys that Window-Eyes is
hiding from us.

The standard selection keys are not employed in browsers for anyone but
screen-reader users. And that's something each screen-reader does itself. It
is not given to them by Microsoft.

Tom


On 5/29/2015 2:11 PM, net bat via Talk wrote:
 because aisquared is starting to look more like jaws. where most if 
 not all of the normal windows commands are being hidden from the user.
 instead of letting the user learn the normal windows commands which 
 have been about the same through all versions of windows since i have 
 been useing a computer back in 1990


 -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk
 Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 10:12 AM
 To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

 Can I ask why some people prefer the original way of selecting text as 
 opposed to f8 (all things being equal)?

 -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad via Talk
 Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 12:48 PM
 To: Keith Hinton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

 What would be cool is if the user could have the choice to use the 
 standard text-selection method or the f8 method.  From an earlier 
 email I read, it sounds like the regular text-selection method *will* 
 be back, we just don't know when.
 Sometimes it works for me, sometimes not.



 On 5/28/2015 7:45 PM, Keith Hinton via Talk wrote:
 I do not want the f8 feature going away even though some users 
 clearly do in bbrowse mode. I prefer this.

 On 5/28/15, Barbara via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:
 My 3 choices in no specific order are:

 Be able to read CAPTCHA Verification

 More stability with Office and internet explorer.  I have had more 
 issues since version 9 of WE than I have in more than 20 years

 Most far fetched is a way for window-eyes to work with off the shelf 
 products without a tech type creating special apps or set files etc.

 Barbara


 -Original Message-
 From: Talk
 [mailto:talk-bounces+batterseye=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] 
 On Behalf Of Jeremy Curry via Talk
 Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:33 PM
 To: t...@window-eyes.com
 Subject: Seeking Your Input

 Hello Everyone,

 We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  
 If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us 
 add to our screen reading product, what would they be?

 Thanks for the input!

 Jeremy

 Jeremy Curry
 Director of Product Management
 Ai Squared, Inc.
 Phone: (802) 362-3612
 Email: jcu...@aisquared.commailto:jcu...@aisquared.com
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Ray Campbell via Talk
No problems with Outlook 2013 here.

Ray Campbell
ray153...@gmail.com

On May 29, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Matthew Chao via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com 
wrote:

 Sure does, and it's VERY EASY to use!
 
 On a related note, I'd like to see more email clients suported other than 
 Outlook; it's so clumsy and kludgey.  Isn't there something more modern and 
 better?--Matthew Chao.
 
 At 04:26 PM 5/29/2015 -0400, you wrote:
 Andrew, if you don't like Eudora, that is your privilege.  It still works 
 and many of us like it.  Even though it is an orphan program, it still out 
 performs many email clients.
 
 
 earlier, Baracco, Andrew W via Talk wrote:
 Give me a break. Development on this program stopped how many years ago?
 Sometimes it's just time to move on, and it isn't a question of there
 not being alternatives.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Talk
 [mailto:talk-bounces+andrew.baracco=va@lists.window-eyes.com] On
 Behalf Of M and L Dorn via Talk
 Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 7:35 PM
 To: Jeremy Curry; Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input
 
 Support for Eudora 7.1.0.9 that tons of people are still using.  The
 graphics that say read unread and so on don't speak unless you shut down
 WE, start Eudora, and THEN start WE again.  Using Control-Alt-W for a
 restart of WE doesn't do it.
 
 Thanks!
 Marilyn
 
 At 12:32 PM 5/28/2015, you wrote:
 Hello Everyone,
 
 We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.
 If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add
 to our screen reading product, what would they be?
 
 Thanks for the input!
 
 Jeremy
 
 Jeremy Curry
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 Ai Squared, Inc.
 Phone: (802) 362-3612
 Email: jcu...@aisquared.commailto:jcu...@aisquared.com
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WE crashing was RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Karyn Campbell via Talk
Hello all,

To those who say they are having crashing issues, I ask two questions:
1. What antivirus package are you running?
2. How much RAM does your machine have?

These are important questions as they can go to some of these issues.  I was
running Vipre on my netbook which slowed down the system and cause crashing
issues.  I no longer run Vipre and am getting better performance as a
result.

Thanks.

Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA, karyn1...@gmail.com
Using WE 9.1  on HP Pavilion laptop running Windows 8.1 home premium 32-bit
with Office 2013 and IE 11 as well as Acer netbook running Windows 7  home
premium 64-bit with Office 2007 and IE 11 and Microsoft  Defender on netbook
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Re: Seek Suggested Development

2015-05-29 Thread Dave via Talk

Free Office 2016?Is anything really Free?

OK, I am a bit frustrated due to WE 9.1 refusing to read, or track 
much of anything on Classmates.com, or Ebay.com.


Closed down I.E. 11 twice, just to clear anything that may have been 
messed up in I.E. but had the hardest time getting WE 9.1 to page 
down to get to search results on Ebay.


I began using the Down Arrow, going line by line, then WE stopped 
reading.  Reading anything.  I was not moving fast, or even medium speed.


I have no idea what was happening, but WE was struggling.  Very 
Sluggish, and would not read much of anything.   Finally just shut 
down I.E. 11 and started reading email, where everything seems back 
to working fine.  Go Figure!


I Know, I Know, some of you never have any issues with Browsing the Web.

reminds me of an old Boss I once had.  he was Lazy, and did not want 
to lift a finger unless he had to do so.  I would be testing some bit 
of software from Development, I would find problems, and I would 
report them.  I would be told later that the problems I had were not 
bugs, because on his system, he found no problems where I had 
reported issues.


I could reduplicate those problems, even when he was standing there 
beside my desk.  He would shrug and tell me it was probably something 
with my system, and that he did not get the same problems on his.


A month later, the Software would be sent to customers and lookie 
there, customers started having issues right where I had reported 
there to be problems.


I know that Development hates to fix problems.  Bug fixing is a Brain 
busting job, but pretending all is fine because 7 out of 10 users say 
they have no problems does not mean the software has no problems.


There might be some difference in the three systems where problems 
are reported.  All Systems are not alike, even systems that are named 
the same model.


Software, for what ever reasons, can run great on one system and like 
a Dog on another.


I was just on Ebay the other night, and I had no problems.  Tonight, 
problems galore!


I await 9.2 in hopes I might benifit from any changes between 9.1 and 9.2.

Grumpy Dave

At 08:57 PM 5/29/2015, you wrote:

Hello

Microsoft will release Office 2016 as a free software package this year,
probably when Windows 10 is released.  It would be wonderful if full support
for Office 2016 were available.  Then everybody could avail themselves of
free Window-Eyes and free Office 2016 as their educational and work
platform.  Complete access at last, no economic barriers to personal
fulfillment!

Peter Duran


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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
True, we could have separate dictionaries for each synth. But we can't 
define the language due to the way they work. Or we could and we'd be 
complaining about the sluggishness of speech due to Window-Eyes having 
to consult an entire dictionary every time it wants to push a single 
word out to the synth.


And then there's the contextual pronunciation quagmires that we can do 
nothing about other than be sunk in forever.


I've always been too thankful for what GW and now AI has given me since 
day one with VocalEyes to be obsessing over the imperfections that will 
always exist. It's the nature of the beast. And in this case the real 
beasts are the synthesizers. I switched from a DecTalk hardware unit a 
couple years ago after twenty years to various software synths that are 
much easier on the ears. But be it that they're software instead of 
essentially a mini computer they all exhibit much more 
mispronunciations. And for me it's worth it. The little annoyance factor 
sure outweighs the pounding head I had by the end of every day with all 
the robotic hardware synths I had.


And the saddest part is that today we could build an incredible hardware 
synth. But no one is willing to pay for much of anything these days. So 
there's no market for it.


Tom


On 5/29/2015 11:03 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:

Not so, you could at least have exception dictionaries specific for each
synth, that should have been done ages ago.  Also, a lot of them
automatically think something is an abreviation when it is not, so you
get some very strange things from some of them -- the actual ones escape
me  at the moment, but you know what I mean.

Tom Kingston via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:


Ted,

Regarding your desire for a pronunciation dictionary? This isn't
possible. The speech synthesizers are completely independent of
Window-Eyes. They're made by other companies and they all have
different quirks. So there's no way for the folks at AI (or any other
screen-reader developers) to do anything about it.

That's why Window-Eyes has the exception dictionary feature. But you
don't want to use it to fix every little quirk in a synth because all
text queued for voicing must query the dictionary before being sent to
the synthesizer. This is why most of them have commercial versions for
dedicated systems such as phone services. And these commercial
versions have the tools to create pronunciation dictionaries and embed
them into the synthesizer itself.

And if you use more than one synthesizer you'll see differences in
what's pronounced right and wrong between them.

Hth,
Tom


On 5/29/2015 7:46 PM, Ted Larson via Talk wrote:

First, I would like to know what is hogging the system, taking away
resources from the application I am working on.
Second, Sometimes a dialog box appears without telling me anything and
then disappears within a couple of seconds without a clue.
Third:  It would be nice to have all words that window-eyes cannot
pronounce correctly, to be updated through a dictionary where those
words could be found and spoken correctly.  Thanks.  Regards:  Ted Larson

- Original Message - From: Jeremy Curry via Talk
talk@lists.window-eyes.com
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:32 PM
Subject: Seeking Your Input



Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.
If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add
to our screen reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread via Talk
Not so, you could at least have exception dictionaries specific for each
synth, that should have been done ages ago.  Also, a lot of them
automatically think something is an abreviation when it is not, so you
get some very strange things from some of them -- the actual ones escape
me  at the moment, but you know what I mean.

Tom Kingston via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

 Ted,
 
 Regarding your desire for a pronunciation dictionary? This isn't
 possible. The speech synthesizers are completely independent of
 Window-Eyes. They're made by other companies and they all have
 different quirks. So there's no way for the folks at AI (or any other
 screen-reader developers) to do anything about it.
 
 That's why Window-Eyes has the exception dictionary feature. But you
 don't want to use it to fix every little quirk in a synth because all
 text queued for voicing must query the dictionary before being sent to
 the synthesizer. This is why most of them have commercial versions for
 dedicated systems such as phone services. And these commercial
 versions have the tools to create pronunciation dictionaries and embed
 them into the synthesizer itself.
 
 And if you use more than one synthesizer you'll see differences in
 what's pronounced right and wrong between them.
 
 Hth,
 Tom
 
 
 On 5/29/2015 7:46 PM, Ted Larson via Talk wrote:
  First, I would like to know what is hogging the system, taking away
  resources from the application I am working on.
  Second, Sometimes a dialog box appears without telling me anything and
  then disappears within a couple of seconds without a clue.
  Third:  It would be nice to have all words that window-eyes cannot
  pronounce correctly, to be updated through a dictionary where those
  words could be found and spoken correctly.  Thanks.  Regards:  Ted Larson
 
  - Original Message - From: Jeremy Curry via Talk
  talk@lists.window-eyes.com
  To: t...@window-eyes.com
  Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:32 PM
  Subject: Seeking Your Input
 
 
  Hello Everyone,
 
  We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.
  If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add
  to our screen reading product, what would they be?
 
  Thanks for the input!
 
  Jeremy
 
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  Ai Squared, Inc.
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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread via Talk
You know there is a WordPerfect for windows, or there has been -- I
still use it occasionally.

Paulette Vickery via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

 Bravo! Well said! The thing I miss most about Word Perfect is the ability to
 do a backward search. Now why didn't MS Word do that?
 
 Paulette
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com]
 On Behalf Of Dave via Talk
 Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 10:55 AM
 To: David Goldfield; Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input
 
 Hey, I would like to see Access return to Word Perfect.  I once used Word
 Perfect all the time, then about 15 years ago, had to switch over to the
 Dark Side and use MS Word.  I still use Word, but could say that I still
 miss Word Perfect and the way it operated.
 
 I know that MS Word is the dominate Word Processor on the Market, and has
 been for a while now.  Never the less, with the interface changing in Word
 about every other edition, it is difficult to buy their next copy knowing
 you are going to need to re-learn a lot of what you knew well in their
 previous edition.
 
 MS Word 2003 had the same look and feel of most of the editions of MS Word,
 going back to the DOS Days.  Then some Bright and Rising Star at Microsoft
 decided it would be a good thing to change Word.  We the public were offered
 MS Word 2007, where everything was changed, forcing people to hunt around
 for features and commands that once were automatic, but now were hidden away
 in some dark corner of the newest edition.
 
 the next edition was MS Word 2010, which again rebuilt the interface,
 forcing everyone to yet again learn the new layout in MS Word.  I am still
 stumbling around in MS Word 2010.  then 2013 came along, and Word 365 which
 has changed the interface yet again.
 
 When it comes to computers, and the software that runs on them, most
 customers want reliability, and they want consistency in the program design.
 
 Most computer users are not using a computer because they love dinking
 around with computers, but are using one because it is to be an assistive
 tool, that helps them to be more productive.
 
 having to relearn drastically altered interfaces is not what the General
 Public Dreams of doing.
 
 So when Microsoft comes along with a brand new edition of Office, the first
 thing all of us ask is, is it going to be Accessible?  And if so, will it be
 more accessible than the previous edition, or will we be losing some
 accessibility.
 
 Today,  all Word Processors I know of, allow the user to Save their 
 Documents in the MS Word file format.So whether you use Word 
 Perfect, or Open Office, or some other Processor, is not as isolating as it
 once was.
 
 Since Microsoft is planning to release their new Windows 10 sometime in
 July.  Anyone know if they will be releasing a new edition of MS 
 Office?   Office 2015?
 
 
 
 Getting back to offering support for another Word Processor. . . I am 
 all for it.  Whether it is Open Office, or even Word Perfect, having 
 alternatives would be nice.  Since I am no longer a Working Stiff, I 
 find my own funds are now limited, and the thought of going out and 
 buying a copy of MS Office does not seem like something I will be 
 choosing to afford.
 
 At 12:37 AM 5/29/2015, you wrote:
 As I'm adding a fifth suggestion to my initial list, does this mean 
 I'm pleading the fifth?
 
 Seriously, I totally agree with this request about support for 
 LibreOffice. I realize that AI Squared is partnering with Microsoft. 
 I realize that Microsoft Office is a major Microsoft product and, 
 for many reasons, it is essential that Window-Eyes remains better 
 than competitive by offering the best access to Office as we can 
 get. I get that and agree with it. However, one of the reasons for 
 why I broke down and purchased Office 365 at home was because, if 
 I'm going to be honest, Office offers me the best accessibility for 
 document creation and editing. I'm sure Microsoft is quite pleased 
 with this fact. I also feel no malice toward them for their products 
 or for the way they are being marketed and distributed. The fact is 
 that Microsoft Word is a darn good product, is used by a lot of 
 people and screen readers need to support it. However, Office should 
 not be the only choice available to us. Some people just can't 
 afford it. Some can but don't feel that they should have to pay for 
 a decent word processor and I'm in that camp. I love the philosophy 
 of open source, not just because many open source packages are free 
 but because they are written and supported by a community, rather 
 than a corporation, which has some advantages over Microsoft Word. 
 Although Window-Eyes isn't such a product, the scripting/app 
 development aspect brings that community involvement to Window-Eyes 
 and you guys do it better than your competition. Having said that, 
 we need to see equal support for LibreOffice, or at 

Re: Question concerning Start Up

2015-05-29 Thread net bat via Talk
did you install a new antivirus? or did you change the way it scans? like 
scanning the computer on startup? this could slow down the computer startup.
the drive may have some bad sectors and it is takeing longer for the 
computer to read from the drive.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike Rogers via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 11:40 AM
To: Vai talk
Subject: Question concerning Start Up

I have noticed lately that Window Eyes takes al  lot longer to come on, when 
I boot up my computer.  This is a change that is recent and it isn't my 
computer, which is pretty fast at starrt up.  Any reason for this?




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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Dave via Talk
Why I like copying text the old way.  For one thing, copying text the 
old way is the way most programs use to copy text.  You might call it 
a Standard.



At 10:12 AM 5/29/2015, you wrote:
Can I ask why some people prefer the original way of selecting text 
as opposed to f8 (all things being equal)?


-Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 12:48 PM
To: Keith Hinton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

What would be cool is if the user could have the choice to use the
standard text-selection method or the f8 method.  From an earlier email
I read, it sounds like the regular text-selection method *will* be back,
we just don't know when.
Sometimes it works for me, sometimes not.



On 5/28/2015 7:45 PM, Keith Hinton via Talk wrote:

I do not want the f8 feature going away even though some users clearly
do in bbrowse mode. I prefer this.

On 5/28/15, Barbara via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

My 3 choices in no specific order are:

Be able to read CAPTCHA Verification

More stability with Office and internet explorer.  I have had more issues
since version 9 of WE than I have in more than 20 years

Most far fetched is a way for window-eyes to work with off the shelf
products without a tech type creating special apps or set files etc.

Barbara


-Original Message-
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[mailto:talk-bounces+batterseye=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Jeremy Curry via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:33 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If
you
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our
screen
reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
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Ai Squared, Inc.
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RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Chris Grabowski via Talk
Hi,
F8 actually works in word.  You press f8, go to where you want to end selection 
and press control-c.
No shift key required.
It is called extended selection.

Too bad it doesn't work in other applications.

Chris


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-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Baracco, Andrew W via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 1:59 PM
To: Nick Sarames; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

I would suspect this is partly because it is a standard way of selecting
text in Windows applications. If you use more than one screen reader,
you have to remember that you have to use a different selection method
with Window Eyes.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+andrew.baracco=va@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 10:13 AM
To: Chris Skarstad; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

Can I ask why some people prefer the original way of selecting text as 
opposed to f8 (all things being equal)?

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 12:48 PM
To: Keith Hinton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

What would be cool is if the user could have the choice to use the
standard text-selection method or the f8 method.  From an earlier email
I read, it sounds like the regular text-selection method *will* be back,
we just don't know when.
Sometimes it works for me, sometimes not.



On 5/28/2015 7:45 PM, Keith Hinton via Talk wrote:
 I do not want the f8 feature going away even though some users clearly
 do in bbrowse mode. I prefer this.

 On 5/28/15, Barbara via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:
 My 3 choices in no specific order are:

 Be able to read CAPTCHA Verification

 More stability with Office and internet explorer.  I have had more
issues
 since version 9 of WE than I have in more than 20 years

 Most far fetched is a way for window-eyes to work with off the shelf
 products without a tech type creating special apps or set files etc.

 Barbara


 -Original Message-
 From: Talk
 [mailto:talk-bounces+batterseye=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com]
On
 Behalf Of Jeremy Curry via Talk
 Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:33 PM
 To: t...@window-eyes.com
 Subject: Seeking Your Input

 Hello Everyone,

 We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.
If
 you
 could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our
 screen
 reading product, what would they be?

 Thanks for the input!

 Jeremy

 Jeremy Curry
 Director of Product Management
 Ai Squared, Inc.
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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Pastor Gil Pries via Talk

   Hi,
I would like the ability to read the number of messages in my in-box like WE 
used to read it.


Pastor Gil

-Original Message- 
From: via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 12:38 PM
To: Paulette Vickery ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

You know there is a WordPerfect for windows, or there has been -- I
still use it occasionally.

Paulette Vickery via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

Bravo! Well said! The thing I miss most about Word Perfect is the ability 
to

do a backward search. Now why didn't MS Word do that?

Paulette

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Dave via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 10:55 AM
To: David Goldfield; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Hey, I would like to see Access return to Word Perfect.  I once used Word
Perfect all the time, then about 15 years ago, had to switch over to the
Dark Side and use MS Word.  I still use Word, but could say that I still
miss Word Perfect and the way it operated.

I know that MS Word is the dominate Word Processor on the Market, and has
been for a while now.  Never the less, with the interface changing in Word
about every other edition, it is difficult to buy their next copy knowing
you are going to need to re-learn a lot of what you knew well in their
previous edition.

MS Word 2003 had the same look and feel of most of the editions of MS 
Word,

going back to the DOS Days.  Then some Bright and Rising Star at Microsoft
decided it would be a good thing to change Word.  We the public were 
offered

MS Word 2007, where everything was changed, forcing people to hunt around
for features and commands that once were automatic, but now were hidden 
away

in some dark corner of the newest edition.

the next edition was MS Word 2010, which again rebuilt the interface,
forcing everyone to yet again learn the new layout in MS Word.  I am still
stumbling around in MS Word 2010.  then 2013 came along, and Word 365 
which

has changed the interface yet again.

When it comes to computers, and the software that runs on them, most
customers want reliability, and they want consistency in the program 
design.


Most computer users are not using a computer because they love dinking
around with computers, but are using one because it is to be an assistive
tool, that helps them to be more productive.

having to relearn drastically altered interfaces is not what the General
Public Dreams of doing.

So when Microsoft comes along with a brand new edition of Office, the 
first
thing all of us ask is, is it going to be Accessible?  And if so, will it 
be

more accessible than the previous edition, or will we be losing some
accessibility.

Today,  all Word Processors I know of, allow the user to Save their
Documents in the MS Word file format.So whether you use Word
Perfect, or Open Office, or some other Processor, is not as isolating as 
it

once was.

Since Microsoft is planning to release their new Windows 10 sometime in
July.  Anyone know if they will be releasing a new edition of MS
Office?   Office 2015?



Getting back to offering support for another Word Processor. . . I am
all for it.  Whether it is Open Office, or even Word Perfect, having
alternatives would be nice.  Since I am no longer a Working Stiff, I
find my own funds are now limited, and the thought of going out and
buying a copy of MS Office does not seem like something I will be
choosing to afford.

At 12:37 AM 5/29/2015, you wrote:
As I'm adding a fifth suggestion to my initial list, does this mean
I'm pleading the fifth?

Seriously, I totally agree with this request about support for
LibreOffice. I realize that AI Squared is partnering with Microsoft.
I realize that Microsoft Office is a major Microsoft product and,
for many reasons, it is essential that Window-Eyes remains better
than competitive by offering the best access to Office as we can
get. I get that and agree with it. However, one of the reasons for
why I broke down and purchased Office 365 at home was because, if
I'm going to be honest, Office offers me the best accessibility for
document creation and editing. I'm sure Microsoft is quite pleased
with this fact. I also feel no malice toward them for their products
or for the way they are being marketed and distributed. The fact is
that Microsoft Word is a darn good product, is used by a lot of
people and screen readers need to support it. However, Office should
not be the only choice available to us. Some people just can't
afford it. Some can but don't feel that they should have to pay for
a decent word processor and I'm in that camp. I love the philosophy
of open source, not just because many open source packages are free
but because they are written and supported by a community, rather
than a corporation, which has some advantages over Microsoft Word.
Although Window-Eyes isn't such a product, the scripting/app
development 

RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread john s via Talk
Andrew, if you don't like Eudora, that is your privilege.  It still 
works and many of us like it.  Even though it is an orphan program, 
it still out performs many email clients.



earlier, Baracco, Andrew W via Talk wrote:

Give me a break. Development on this program stopped how many years ago?
Sometimes it's just time to move on, and it isn't a question of there
not being alternatives.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+andrew.baracco=va@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of M and L Dorn via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 7:35 PM
To: Jeremy Curry; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

Support for Eudora 7.1.0.9 that tons of people are still using.  The
graphics that say read unread and so on don't speak unless you shut down
WE, start Eudora, and THEN start WE again.  Using Control-Alt-W for a
restart of WE doesn't do it.

Thanks!
Marilyn

At 12:32 PM 5/28/2015, you wrote:
Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.
If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add
to our screen reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
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RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Chip Orange via Talk
So why are you even here on this list Andy if you feel like that?

I'll never understand people who stick around simply to complain.

Just so you know ... no, development has never stopped, and the constant
stream of long read me files with each release is more than proof enough.
In addition, there's the separate scripting community.


Chip


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+lists3717=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Baracco, Andrew W via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 12:39 PM
To: M and L Dorn; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

Give me a break. Development on this program stopped how many years ago?
Sometimes it's just time to move on, and it isn't a question of there
not being alternatives.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+andrew.baracco=va@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of M and L Dorn via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 7:35 PM
To: Jeremy Curry; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

Support for Eudora 7.1.0.9 that tons of people are still using.  The
graphics that say read unread and so on don't speak unless you shut down
WE, start Eudora, and THEN start WE again.  Using Control-Alt-W for a
restart of WE doesn't do it.

Thanks!
Marilyn

At 12:32 PM 5/28/2015, you wrote:
Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  
If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add 
to our screen reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
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Ai Squared, Inc.
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lets just hope W-E will work better when windows 10 comes out

2015-05-29 Thread K4NKZ JIM via Talk


--
Have a nice day from, K4NKZ Jim

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Re: F-8

2015-05-29 Thread Norene Trappa via Talk

Hi,

I always press enter twice after f8 asks if I want to use plain text to make 
sure it gets to the clipboard, and it works well.


Norene



-Original Message- 
From: Alan J Paganelli via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 9:00 AM
To: Dave ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: F-8

This is what works for me.  When I use the F8 feature, I locate the
beginning of what I want to copy and using my left/right arrow keys make
sure I'm on the first caractor of the first sentense. and then use the
down-darrow keys to get to the end of what I want to copy and make sure I'm
at the end of the line.  Then I'll go back and hit the F8 key again to copy
to the clipboard.  I may be asked if I want to copy plane text or text with
formatting.  I find when I don't use this method that I get poorer results.

HTH





Regards,
Alan
Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your parents? Act now! Move out.
Get
a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly!
The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still
available upon request. Thanks for listening!
-Original Message- 
From: Dave via Talk

Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 6:23 PM
To: Brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: F-8

So far, I have found the F8 method of copying something to be Hit and
Miss.  Or I get a parchal copy of something, or I copy something I
never intended to copy.

I keep thinking it is me who is doing something incorrectly, but
since I seem to end up with questionable results more than even a
Bone Head like me should suffer, I have to start thinking something
is not quite right with the F8 method.

I am thinking it may have something to do with when the Web Site page
changes, because there is now an Ad that popped up, or some other
Animation has started moving around, just maybe this sort of Web
movement messes with the new method of copying text.

Just a guess on my part, since I am still not convinced I am always
using the feature as it was meant to be used.

Sometimes it works as it should and other times nothing even happens.

At 04:30 PM 5/28/2015, you wrote:
Can anyone say they get constant results using the F-8 method? I sure 
don't! Especially when trying to copy a link or text in email. I use 
Windows Mail

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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Alan J Paganelli via Talk
I'm still using Jart 45.  What's the latest version and what would I get 
with Jart plus?





Regards,
Alan
Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your parents? Act now! Move out. 
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available upon request. Thanks for listening!
-Original Message- 
From: Rob via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 5:05 AM
To: Elizabeth ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

I love Jarte, myself. It works faster, more intuitively, and cleaner than
Word I bought a copy of Jarte plus and haven't really looked any further for
a rich text editor.
Now if only we could have an accessible epub editor...
- Original Message - 
From: Elizabeth via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com

To: Micallef Michael at FITA michael.mical...@gov.mt; Window-Eyes
Discussion List talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 6:50 AM
Subject: RE: Seeking Your Input


You did not mention JARTE. Have you tried using it as a Word Processor 
alternative to MS Word?


Elizabeth


At 02:54 AM 5/29/2015, you wrote:

Hi Jeremy,

My wish list include:

1. Better support for Mozilla products especially Thunderbird Mail 
(basically mouse navigation)

2. the ability to import/export window-eyes settings
3. better support for non-microsoft products such as open office and Liber 
office so we the end users have better choice.
4. better labelling graphics capability (the insert+g when finish 
labelling does not tells you how many labels it found and how many manage 
to really label them).
5. better support for the most three used programming languages  packages 
used today.



-Original Message-
From: Talk 
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Behalf Of Jeremy Curry via Talk

Sent: Thursday, 28 May 2015 21:33
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If 
you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our 
screen reading product, what would they be?


Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
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Ai Squared, Inc.
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RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Matthew Chao via Talk

Sure does, and it's VERY EASY to use!

On a related note, I'd like to see more email clients suported other 
than Outlook; it's so clumsy and kludgey.  Isn't there something more 
modern and better?--Matthew Chao.


At 04:26 PM 5/29/2015 -0400, you wrote:
Andrew, if you don't like Eudora, that is your privilege.  It still 
works and many of us like it.  Even though it is an orphan program, 
it still out performs many email clients.



earlier, Baracco, Andrew W via Talk wrote:

Give me a break. Development on this program stopped how many years ago?
Sometimes it's just time to move on, and it isn't a question of there
not being alternatives.

Andy


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of M and L Dorn via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 7:35 PM
To: Jeremy Curry; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

Support for Eudora 7.1.0.9 that tons of people are still using.  The
graphics that say read unread and so on don't speak unless you shut down
WE, start Eudora, and THEN start WE again.  Using Control-Alt-W for a
restart of WE doesn't do it.

Thanks!
Marilyn

At 12:32 PM 5/28/2015, you wrote:
Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.
If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add
to our screen reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
Director of Product Management
Ai Squared, Inc.
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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Dave,

Curiosity made me google and find the current release of WordPerfect, made
by my fellow countrymen here in Canada, and here's a URL for their site:

http://bit.ly/1J9kZcc

It certainly looks like the product has changed quite a bit over the years,
and this makes me wonder if you're referrring to old faithful WordPerfect
5.1 for DOS which I still have disks for around somewhere.
Be that as it may, the current release of WordPerfect for Windows, which is
now a full office-like suite of products, is fairly equivalent in price to
what you'd pay for MS's comparable package.
Can you say more about what you mean by WordPerfect?

Thank you and with respect,

Rod

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Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Hey, I would like to see Access return to Word Perfect.  I once used 
Word Perfect all the time, then about 15 years ago, had to switch 
over to the Dark Side and use MS Word.  I still use Word, but could 
say that I still miss Word Perfect and the way it operated.

I know that MS Word is the dominate Word Processor on the Market, and 
has been for a while now.  Never the less, with the interface 
changing in Word about every other edition, it is difficult to buy 
their next copy knowing you are going to need to re-learn a lot of 
what you knew well in their previous edition.

MS Word 2003 had the same look and feel of most of the editions of MS 
Word, going back to the DOS Days.  Then some Bright and Rising Star 
at Microsoft decided it would be a good thing to change Word.  We the 
public were offered MS Word 2007, where everything was changed, 
forcing people to hunt around for features and commands that once 
were automatic, but now were hidden away in some dark corner of the 
newest edition.

the next edition was MS Word 2010, which again rebuilt the interface, 
forcing everyone to yet again learn the new layout in MS Word.  I am 
still stumbling around in MS Word 2010.  then 2013 came along, and 
Word 365 which has changed the interface yet again.

When it comes to computers, and the software that runs on them, most 
customers want reliability, and they want consistency in the program design.

Most computer users are not using a computer because they love 
dinking around with computers, but are using one because it is to be 
an assistive tool, that helps them to be more productive.

having to relearn drastically altered interfaces is not what the 
General Public Dreams of doing.

So when Microsoft comes along with a brand new edition of Office, the 
first thing all of us ask is, is it going to be Accessible?  And if 
so, will it be more accessible than the previous edition, or will we 
be losing some accessibility.

Today,  all Word Processors I know of, allow the user to Save their 
Documents in the MS Word file format.So whether you use Word 
Perfect, or Open Office, or some other Processor, is not as isolating 
as it once was.

Since Microsoft is planning to release their new Windows 10 sometime 
in July.  Anyone know if they will be releasing a new edition of MS 
Office?   Office 2015?



Getting back to offering support for another Word Processor. . . I am 
all for it.  Whether it is Open Office, or even Word Perfect, having 
alternatives would be nice.  Since I am no longer a Working Stiff, I 
find my own funds are now limited, and the thought of going out and 
buying a copy of MS Office does not seem like something I will be 
choosing to afford.

At 12:37 AM 5/29/2015, you wrote:
As I'm adding a fifth suggestion to my initial list, does this mean 
I'm pleading the fifth?

Seriously, I totally agree with this request about support for 
LibreOffice. I realize that AI Squared is partnering with Microsoft. 
I realize that Microsoft Office is a major Microsoft product and, 
for many reasons, it is essential that Window-Eyes remains better 
than competitive by offering the best access to Office as we can 
get. I get that and agree with it. However, one of the reasons for 
why I broke down and purchased Office 365 at home was because, if 
I'm going to be honest, Office offers me the best accessibility for 
document creation and editing. I'm sure Microsoft is quite pleased 
with this fact. I also feel no malice toward them for their products 
or for the way they are being marketed and distributed. The fact is 
that Microsoft Word is a darn good product, is used by a lot of 
people and screen readers need to support it. However, Office should 
not be the only choice available to us. Some people just can't 
afford it. Some can but don't feel that they should have to pay for 
a decent word processor and I'm in that camp. I love the philosophy 
of open source, not just because many open source packages are free 
but because they are written and supported by a community, rather 
than a