Re: accessible dropbox
There is no blindness-specific accessible version of Dropbox, what you see is what you get. let us know where you're having trouble and we'll try to help. On 3/22/2016 12:32 AM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote: where can I get an accessible dropbox for windows7? thanks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rascal0826%40verizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
accessible dropbox
where can I get an accessible dropbox for windows7? thanks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: An alternative for User Windows?
That's the spirit! Smile. Thank you, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk Sent: March 21, 2016 9:17 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: An alternative for User Windows? As more and more of the newer programs and Windows Store apps use newer techniques for presenting their information, or use a web browser view, it becomes more difficult for Window-Eyes to associate a mouse position with particular information or to define windows that will read info consistently. But there are still plenty of programs where reading of windows could be helpful. In other cases, I imagine that the Hot Spot app might be useful. Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD http://lras.home.sprynet.com -Original Message- From: Kevin Huber via Talk Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 1:47 PM To: dlh...@centurylink.net ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: An alternative for User Windows? Hi: I just checked in the hotkeys section of the Window-eyes control panel, and it appears that all the hotkeys for setting up and reading user windows are still there, but they are undefined. If one were to redefine those keys, could one still set up a user window? Kevin Huber On 3/18/16, via Talk wrote: > Hello, > > Since installing version 9.X, I have discovered that User Windows do not > always work as they once did. > > After wrestling with this for a while, I finally called A I's tech > support and was told that these User Windows are no longer Supported, > and that A I Squared can not guarantee they will work. > > When I asked about an alternative to User Windows, I was told I could > write a Script. > > Perhaps not many used the User Window feature, but I sure did. And I > found being able to read selected parts of a screen, or to auto read > parts of a screen to be quite valuable, and I used these features all > the time. > > Not everyone is a Script writer, and after listening to several of > Chip's lessons on writing Scripts, Grumpy Dave is not going to be writing > any scripts any time soon. > > Is there any alternative to the User Window feature? Other than writing > a script? > > Also, the last time I looked at NVDA, which might have been a year or > more ago, they too did not have anything like User Windows. Do they now? > > I use several programs where I only wish to read a small part of the > screen, while ignoring the rest of the screen. > > Thanks for any help, or reply, > > Grumpy Dave > > Oh, and by not Supporting User Windows is a Step Backwards, at least in > my mind. If a feature is going to be removed, then there should be > something to replace it with that does a better job. Scripting might be > a better solution, but not for the typical Window Eyes user. > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/huber.kevin7%4 0gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lras%40sprynet .com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40h otmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: getting to the main window in chicket nugget
In Windows 10 it is alt-windows-up or down arrow. The ctrl=alt- commands don't work in Windows 10. See the important note about Windows 10 in the documentation which can be reached by pressing F1 from within Chicken Nugget. Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA, karyn1...@gmail.com and likely Viper Antivirus on both machines. Using WE 9.3 on HP Pavilion running Windows 8.1 with Office 2013 and I.E. 11 as well as Assuss convertible laptop running Windows 10 with Office 2013 and I.E. 11 as default browser and Viper Antivirus on boht machines. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
AIM instant Messenger.
What version of aim is accessible with window eyes 9.4? I have miranda im and miranda ng and neither of them can seem to connect to aim has anyone else had this problem with miranda im and miranda ng? Which version of aim works best with window eyes? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Can't Read Information in Outlook Fields
Well, Steve, once again you've come to my rescue. I wish I hadn't been so impulsive in flinging reason and common sense to oblivion and doing a re-install of 9.3x then upgrading to 9.4. Ah, well, that just means I get to go on an app scavenger hunt--not as fun perhaps as an Easter egg hunt, but achievable easily enough. The repair of that video driver solved both the Outlook problem and my mouse dinging problem. The mouse keys work again--hugely helpful for Sound Forge and a host of other programs. So please accept my fervent gratitude for a fix that was so quick and easy. Gratefully, Nolan ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: An alternative for User Windows?
As more and more of the newer programs and Windows Store apps use newer techniques for presenting their information, or use a web browser view, it becomes more difficult for Window-Eyes to associate a mouse position with particular information or to define windows that will read info consistently. But there are still plenty of programs where reading of windows could be helpful. In other cases, I imagine that the Hot Spot app might be useful. Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD http://lras.home.sprynet.com -Original Message- From: Kevin Huber via Talk Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 1:47 PM To: dlh...@centurylink.net ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: An alternative for User Windows? Hi: I just checked in the hotkeys section of the Window-eyes control panel, and it appears that all the hotkeys for setting up and reading user windows are still there, but they are undefined. If one were to redefine those keys, could one still set up a user window? Kevin Huber On 3/18/16, via Talk wrote: Hello, Since installing version 9.X, I have discovered that User Windows do not always work as they once did. After wrestling with this for a while, I finally called A I's tech support and was told that these User Windows are no longer Supported, and that A I Squared can not guarantee they will work. When I asked about an alternative to User Windows, I was told I could write a Script. Perhaps not many used the User Window feature, but I sure did. And I found being able to read selected parts of a screen, or to auto read parts of a screen to be quite valuable, and I used these features all the time. Not everyone is a Script writer, and after listening to several of Chip's lessons on writing Scripts, Grumpy Dave is not going to be writing any scripts any time soon. Is there any alternative to the User Window feature? Other than writing a script? Also, the last time I looked at NVDA, which might have been a year or more ago, they too did not have anything like User Windows. Do they now? I use several programs where I only wish to read a small part of the screen, while ignoring the rest of the screen. Thanks for any help, or reply, Grumpy Dave Oh, and by not Supporting User Windows is a Step Backwards, at least in my mind. If a feature is going to be removed, then there should be something to replace it with that does a better job. Scripting might be a better solution, but not for the typical Window Eyes user. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/huber.kevin7%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lras%40sprynet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: An alternative for User Windows?
Also, you can have a user window chain read another user window, which will override the user window precedents. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 11:14 AM To: dlh...@centurylink.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: An alternative for User Windows? I don't blame you for being grumpy, Dave. I can write scripts and I still use windows here and there because it's a lot easier and quicker. But they do sometimes need tweaking to get them to work. Ironically I just had to tweak one this morning because the left edge was cutting off the first character of some lines. While I understand that the folks at AI only have so many hours in the day, it's too bad that user windows are no longer supported. On the other hand, prior to scripting I always marveled at how few users would even consider taking a look at the incredible power we already had. I understand that it's simply not for everyone. but there's also a big "someone else do it for me" tendency in everyone these days, not just screen-reader users. So keep at it and hopefully you can get those windows working. Regards, Tom On 3/18/2016 10:30 AM, via Talk wrote: > Hello, > > Since installing version 9.X, I have discovered that User Windows do not > always work as they once did. > > After wrestling with this for a while, I finally called A I's tech > support and was told that these User Windows are no longer Supported, > and that A I Squared can not guarantee they will work. > > When I asked about an alternative to User Windows, I was told I could > write a Script. > > Perhaps not many used the User Window feature, but I sure did. And I > found being able to read selected parts of a screen, or to auto read > parts of a screen to be quite valuable, and I used these features all > the time. > > Not everyone is a Script writer, and after listening to several of > Chip's lessons on writing Scripts, Grumpy Dave is not going to be writing > any scripts any time soon. > > Is there any alternative to the User Window feature? Other than writing > a script? > > Also, the last time I looked at NVDA, which might have been a year or > more ago, they too did not have anything like User Windows. Do they now? > > I use several programs where I only wish to read a small part of the > screen, while ignoring the rest of the screen. > > Thanks for any help, or reply, > > Grumpy Dave > > Oh, and by not Supporting User Windows is a Step Backwards, at least in > my mind. If a feature is going to be removed, then there should be > something to replace it with that does a better job. Scripting might be > a better solution, but not for the typical Window Eyes user. > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%4 0charter.net. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/fenderwal%40sb cglobal.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: An alternative for User Windows?
also because some of the keys were in conflict with i e. i did re define the number 1 window so i can read the entire screen if i need to. -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 11:44 AM To: Kevin Huber ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: An alternative for User Windows? Kevin, Yes. Those hot keys were just undefined because few people used them. Regards, Tom On 3/21/2016 1:47 PM, Kevin Huber via Talk wrote: Hi: I just checked in the hotkeys section of the Window-eyes control panel, and it appears that all the hotkeys for setting up and reading user windows are still there, but they are undefined. If one were to redefine those keys, could one still set up a user window? Kevin Huber On 3/18/16, via Talk wrote: Hello, Since installing version 9.X, I have discovered that User Windows do not always work as they once did. After wrestling with this for a while, I finally called A I's tech support and was told that these User Windows are no longer Supported, and that A I Squared can not guarantee they will work. When I asked about an alternative to User Windows, I was told I could write a Script. Perhaps not many used the User Window feature, but I sure did. And I found being able to read selected parts of a screen, or to auto read parts of a screen to be quite valuable, and I used these features all the time. Not everyone is a Script writer, and after listening to several of Chip's lessons on writing Scripts, Grumpy Dave is not going to be writing any scripts any time soon. Is there any alternative to the User Window feature? Other than writing a script? Also, the last time I looked at NVDA, which might have been a year or more ago, they too did not have anything like User Windows. Do they now? I use several programs where I only wish to read a small part of the screen, while ignoring the rest of the screen. Thanks for any help, or reply, Grumpy Dave Oh, and by not Supporting User Windows is a Step Backwards, at least in my mind. If a feature is going to be removed, then there should be something to replace it with that does a better job. Scripting might be a better solution, but not for the typical Window Eyes user. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/huber.kevin7%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: An alternative for User Windows?
Kevin, Yes. Those hot keys were just undefined because few people used them. Regards, Tom On 3/21/2016 1:47 PM, Kevin Huber via Talk wrote: Hi: I just checked in the hotkeys section of the Window-eyes control panel, and it appears that all the hotkeys for setting up and reading user windows are still there, but they are undefined. If one were to redefine those keys, could one still set up a user window? Kevin Huber On 3/18/16, via Talk wrote: Hello, Since installing version 9.X, I have discovered that User Windows do not always work as they once did. After wrestling with this for a while, I finally called A I's tech support and was told that these User Windows are no longer Supported, and that A I Squared can not guarantee they will work. When I asked about an alternative to User Windows, I was told I could write a Script. Perhaps not many used the User Window feature, but I sure did. And I found being able to read selected parts of a screen, or to auto read parts of a screen to be quite valuable, and I used these features all the time. Not everyone is a Script writer, and after listening to several of Chip's lessons on writing Scripts, Grumpy Dave is not going to be writing any scripts any time soon. Is there any alternative to the User Window feature? Other than writing a script? Also, the last time I looked at NVDA, which might have been a year or more ago, they too did not have anything like User Windows. Do they now? I use several programs where I only wish to read a small part of the screen, while ignoring the rest of the screen. Thanks for any help, or reply, Grumpy Dave Oh, and by not Supporting User Windows is a Step Backwards, at least in my mind. If a feature is going to be removed, then there should be something to replace it with that does a better job. Scripting might be a better solution, but not for the typical Window Eyes user. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/huber.kevin7%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: how do i download office365
HI Jed: Which browser are you using? Kevin Huber On 3/17/16, Jed Barton via Talk wrote: > Hey guys, > I am trying to get office 365 installed. I went to > www.microsoft.com/myaccount. > I got logged in, but i tried to download the file, ir prompted me to > save a file, but i saw no browse button to save it. Any ideas how i can > get the browse button working where i can save a file locally? > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/huber.kevin7%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: getting to the main window in chicket nugget
The last time I used Chicken Nugget that wasn't too long ago, you needed to add the shift key to the alt-win-arrow key combinations. I wonder if it has been fixed so shift isn't required? Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Karyn Campbell via Talk Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:15 AM To: j...@jedbarton.com; 'Jed Barton' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: getting to the main window in chicket nugget Jed, Alt-windows-uparrow to read tweets. This takes you up in the list and alt-windows-down arrow takes you down the list. This changed in Windows 10 and is covered in the documentation which can be reached by pressing F1 when in Chicken Nugget. I do not suggest hidding the screen in Windows 10. Karyn Campbell, karyn1...@gmail.com Check out my blog at suburban-gal.livejournal.com Follow me on twitter at www.twitter.com/packerbackerkar Friend me on Facebook at www.facebook.com/packerbackerkaryn -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+karyn1421=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Jed Barton via Talk Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 5:14 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: getting to the main window in chicket nugget Hey guys, I got chicken nugget installed, and can not get to the main window with win 10. Anyone have a good way to do it? Driving me crazy, the usual hotkey that is supposed to work is not. Tweets are coming in, but i can't read them. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/karyn1421%40gm ail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40aisquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: getting to the main window in chicket nugget
If you are using windows 10, its alt-win-w. To navigate between tweets and buffers it is shift-alt-win arrow keys. Chris Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Robert Grimwood via Talk Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 11:47 AM To: Karyn Campbell ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: getting to the main window in chicket nugget I am completely unable to get to the main window. Control-windows-w does not work. I have also tried control-alt-up/downarrow. They are all not working. Regards, Robert On 3/21/2016 2:14 PM, Karyn Campbell via Talk wrote: > Jed, > > Alt-windows-uparrow to read tweets. This takes you up in the list and > alt-windows-down arrow takes you down the list. > > This changed in Windows 10 and is covered in the documentation which can be > reached by pressing F1 when in Chicken Nugget. I do not suggest hidding the > screen in Windows 10. > > Karyn Campbell, karyn1...@gmail.com > Check out my blog at suburban-gal.livejournal.com > Follow me on twitter at www.twitter.com/packerbackerkar > Friend me on Facebook at www.facebook.com/packerbackerkaryn > > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+karyn1421=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] > On Behalf Of Jed Barton via Talk > Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 5:14 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: getting to the main window in chicket nugget > > Hey guys, > I got chicken nugget installed, and can not get to the main window with > win 10. Anyone have a good way to do it? > Driving me crazy, the usual hotkey that is supposed to work is not. > Tweets are coming in, but i can't read them. > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/karyn1421%40gm > ail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/grimwoodpiano%40btinternet.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40aisquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Can't Read Information in Outlook Fields
Hi, Control-numpad 5 doesn't spell lines in a text editor. It however can spell menu items because when a line isn't detected Window-eyes does a speak summary when you press control-numpad 5. Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Huber via Talk Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 1:01 PM To: Crabb, Nolan ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Can't Read Information in Outlook Fields Hi: I am using Window-eyes 9.4 on a Windows 7 64-bit system and I just tried pressing control-numpad 5 twice in Notepad, and, while Window-eyes read the current line on the first press of control-numpad 5, the second press of the key combination did not cause Window-eyes to spell that line. Kevin Huber On 3/20/16, Crabb, Nolan via Talk wrote: > Office 2010, WE 9.4, Windows 10/64: > > If I attempt to write in the subject line of an outgoing email, I can't hear > any of that information when I try to look at it with the arrow keys or to > read the entire line with Control+Numberpad 5. > > In a moment of mindless rage last night, I uninstalled we 9.4, installed > 9.3, then immediately upgraded back to 9.4. No satisfaction. > > It is with some trepidation that I note that NVDA and JAWS 17 read > information in those fields; any thoughts? > > Also, no matter what I do, I can't get Control+Numberpad 5 to spell the > entire line when I tap it twice. Has that feature disappeared? > > Nolan > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/huber.kevin7%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40aisquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: An alternative for User Windows?
Hi: I just checked in the hotkeys section of the Window-eyes control panel, and it appears that all the hotkeys for setting up and reading user windows are still there, but they are undefined. If one were to redefine those keys, could one still set up a user window? Kevin Huber On 3/18/16, via Talk wrote: > Hello, > > Since installing version 9.X, I have discovered that User Windows do not > always work as they once did. > > After wrestling with this for a while, I finally called A I's tech > support and was told that these User Windows are no longer Supported, > and that A I Squared can not guarantee they will work. > > When I asked about an alternative to User Windows, I was told I could > write a Script. > > Perhaps not many used the User Window feature, but I sure did. And I > found being able to read selected parts of a screen, or to auto read > parts of a screen to be quite valuable, and I used these features all > the time. > > Not everyone is a Script writer, and after listening to several of > Chip's lessons on writing Scripts, Grumpy Dave is not going to be writing > any scripts any time soon. > > Is there any alternative to the User Window feature? Other than writing > a script? > > Also, the last time I looked at NVDA, which might have been a year or > more ago, they too did not have anything like User Windows. Do they now? > > I use several programs where I only wish to read a small part of the > screen, while ignoring the rest of the screen. > > Thanks for any help, or reply, > > Grumpy Dave > > Oh, and by not Supporting User Windows is a Step Backwards, at least in > my mind. If a feature is going to be removed, then there should be > something to replace it with that does a better job. Scripting might be > a better solution, but not for the typical Window Eyes user. > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/huber.kevin7%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Adding Attachments to Emails when Using Becky!
Hello. Thanks to all who answered my question.--Matthew Chao On 3/21/2016 1:23 PM, Reg Webb via Talk wrote: Or, alternatively, write your message, simply press the alt key, and arrow up to where it says "attach files". Pressing enter on that gets you a standard dialogue. Press "open" when you've located the file, and OK if you want to use the default encoding used by Beckie. Job done. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: OT: Donald Duck and his computer
Hi: I think it is supposed to be "MacDonald" as in Mac computers, rather than "Mcdonald". Kevin Huber On 3/19/16, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote: > I don't get it. > > > On 3/19/2016 10:38 AM, David via Talk wrote: >> Even Donald Duck has decided to go modern, and get a computer. Like >> the rest of us, he seems to drag it around from one room to the other. >> >> Now, they simply just nickname him: McDonald. >> >> Sorry for the Off-Topic joke. >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rascal0826%40verizon.net. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/huber.kevin7%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Adding Attachments to Emails when Using Becky!
Or, alternatively, write your message, simply press the alt key, and arrow up to where it says "attach files". Pressing enter on that gets you a standard dialogue. Press "open" when you've located the file, and OK if you want to use the default encoding used by Beckie. Job done. -- Reg On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 13:16:45 -0400 Mike Rogers via Talk wrote: > The way I send attachments using Becky. > 1. Open Becky. > 2. go to where the file is and right click on the file. > 3. arrow to "send to" and right arrow, then aroow to "send to becky" and hit > enter. > 4. the new message comes up and I fill in address, etc. and hit send. > > > > www.harmonicaworkshops.com > www.woodeneyemusic.com > > > On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 09:47:45 -0700 > via Talk wrote: > > > While in the compose window, click file and choose add attachment from > > the file menu. This then pops up a box which I don't understand, but I > > just hit the enter key, then click File again and send the message. > > -- > > > > > > ___ > > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > > > For membership options, visit > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/harpman9%40gmail.com. > > For subscription options, visit > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > List archives can be found at > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/regwebb%40btinternet.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Adding Attachments to Emails when Using Becky!
The way I send attachments using Becky. 1. Open Becky. 2. go to where the file is and right click on the file. 3. arrow to "send to" and right arrow, then aroow to "send to becky" and hit enter. 4. the new message comes up and I fill in address, etc. and hit send. www.harmonicaworkshops.com www.woodeneyemusic.com On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 09:47:45 -0700 via Talk wrote: > While in the compose window, click file and choose add attachment from > the file menu. This then pops up a box which I don't understand, but I > just hit the enter key, then click File again and send the message. > -- > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/harpman9%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Can't Read Information in Outlook Fields
Hi: I am using Window-eyes 9.4 on a Windows 7 64-bit system and I just tried pressing control-numpad 5 twice in Notepad, and, while Window-eyes read the current line on the first press of control-numpad 5, the second press of the key combination did not cause Window-eyes to spell that line. Kevin Huber On 3/20/16, Crabb, Nolan via Talk wrote: > Office 2010, WE 9.4, Windows 10/64: > > If I attempt to write in the subject line of an outgoing email, I can't hear > any of that information when I try to look at it with the arrow keys or to > read the entire line with Control+Numberpad 5. > > In a moment of mindless rage last night, I uninstalled we 9.4, installed > 9.3, then immediately upgraded back to 9.4. No satisfaction. > > It is with some trepidation that I note that NVDA and JAWS 17 read > information in those fields; any thoughts? > > Also, no matter what I do, I can't get Control+Numberpad 5 to spell the > entire line when I tap it twice. Has that feature disappeared? > > Nolan > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/huber.kevin7%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Adding Attachments to Emails when Using Becky!
While in the compose window, click file and choose add attachment from the file menu. This then pops up a box which I don't understand, but I just hit the enter key, then click File again and send the message. -- ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: getting to the main window in chicket nugget
I am completely unable to get to the main window. Control-windows-w does not work. I have also tried control-alt-up/downarrow. They are all not working. Regards, Robert On 3/21/2016 2:14 PM, Karyn Campbell via Talk wrote: Jed, Alt-windows-uparrow to read tweets. This takes you up in the list and alt-windows-down arrow takes you down the list. This changed in Windows 10 and is covered in the documentation which can be reached by pressing F1 when in Chicken Nugget. I do not suggest hidding the screen in Windows 10. Karyn Campbell, karyn1...@gmail.com Check out my blog at suburban-gal.livejournal.com Follow me on twitter at www.twitter.com/packerbackerkar Friend me on Facebook at www.facebook.com/packerbackerkaryn -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+karyn1421=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Jed Barton via Talk Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 5:14 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: getting to the main window in chicket nugget Hey guys, I got chicken nugget installed, and can not get to the main window with win 10. Anyone have a good way to do it? Driving me crazy, the usual hotkey that is supposed to work is not. Tweets are coming in, but i can't read them. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/karyn1421%40gm ail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/grimwoodpiano%40btinternet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Adding Attachments to Emails when Using Becky!
What is Beckey, and how is it different from thunderbird? RJ On 3/21/2016 10:46 AM, Matthew Chao via Talk wrote: Hi, Folks. How do I add attachments to an email in Becky!? Prefer using that email package compared to Thunderbird. Thanks in advance.--Matthew Chao ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/manbatsandefur%40outlook.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Adding Attachments to Emails when Using Becky!
Hi, Folks. How do I add attachments to an email in Becky!? Prefer using that email package compared to Thunderbird. Thanks in advance.--Matthew Chao ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: getting to the main window in chicket nugget
Jed, Alt-windows-uparrow to read tweets. This takes you up in the list and alt-windows-down arrow takes you down the list. This changed in Windows 10 and is covered in the documentation which can be reached by pressing F1 when in Chicken Nugget. I do not suggest hidding the screen in Windows 10. Karyn Campbell, karyn1...@gmail.com Check out my blog at suburban-gal.livejournal.com Follow me on twitter at www.twitter.com/packerbackerkar Friend me on Facebook at www.facebook.com/packerbackerkaryn -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+karyn1421=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Jed Barton via Talk Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 5:14 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: getting to the main window in chicket nugget Hey guys, I got chicken nugget installed, and can not get to the main window with win 10. Anyone have a good way to do it? Driving me crazy, the usual hotkey that is supposed to work is not. Tweets are coming in, but i can't read them. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/karyn1421%40gm ail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Can't Read Information in Outlook Fields
Hello Nolan, Assuming your Window-Eyes apps are up-to-date, open the WE control panel, and run Apps -> Diagnostics -> Repair Windows 10 Video Support. Once done, restart WE, and that should correct the problem. Let us know if it doesn't. Regards, Steve -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Crabb, Nolan via Talk Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 7:10 PM To: Steve Jacobson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: Can't Read Information in Outlook Fields Hi, Thanks for your reply. It doesn't seem to have anything to do with sleep mode or screen saver. I've turned all of that off in my power plan, so I don't ever have to come out of sleep mode. Screen redraws don't seem to help either. I just don't get it; it works perfectly in JAWS 17 and the latest NVDA. There's clearly some setting somewhere that's changed, and I can't figure it out. Before I reinstalled the entire program last night, I had re-installed the factory sets, hoping that would fix things. Regards, Nolan ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/sclower%40aisquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com